[00:00] <noobix> gothic, install chrome
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> And the package manager says that Flash Player is installed, that's nice, the only problem with it is that it doesn't work
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> I already have chrome, noobix
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> The only recommendation I can give you is to NEVER upgrade to version 14
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> You won't be able to use Flash anymore
[00:00] <noobix> gothic, then use firefox
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> Doesn't work either
[00:00] <noobix> html5?
[00:01] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: use pepperflash with chrome
[00:01] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: and first one to blame is adobe to stop making flash for linux and the websites still using flash.
[00:01] <Gothicspeaker> k1l: I just installed pepperflash, restarted Chrome, the result is:  Flash player doesn't work
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> k1l: But Ubuntu decided to use another framework
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> I read that at a website
[00:02] <noobix> bill must have bribed them
[00:02] <OerHeks> 12.04 lts will give the same browser and flash versions
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> Reason for flash player issue exclusively in Chromium:
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> The reason why this issue occurs only in Chromium is that until now Chromium used Netscape Plugin API for Flash support. Starting from Ubuntu 14.04, Chromium will stop using Netscape Plugin API. Hence, you will face issues with Adobe Flash Player with Chromium.
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> That's what this website says:
[00:02] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: "i read some site"....
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> http://itsfoss.com/fix-flash-player-issue-chromium-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:03] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: what do you mean?
[00:03] <k1l> !search pepperflash
[00:04] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss:
[00:04] <EriC^^> https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11890306/map-cannot-find-required-map-nameAC
[00:04] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: whenever i boot to live usb there should be an option there to repair
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> Great
[00:04] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: there isnt
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> now I can't use Flash anymore
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> why did I have to update Ubuntu...
[00:04] <k1l> sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> Already done that
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> doesn't work
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> it still doesn't work, flash
[00:04] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: the live only sees the install when you go to re-install it
[00:04] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: stop flooding the channel with that much enter
[00:05] <Chuck_Norris> Gothicspeaker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9492325/
[00:05] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: can you reset CIMC ?
[00:05] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: what error do you get exactly? what sites dont work? what commands did you run?...
[00:05] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: as per thread ^^
[00:05] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: ill check
[00:05] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: i am using flash in chromium and firefoxright now on 14.10 and did just 1 hour ago on a 14.04 install. so dont say it doesnt work
[00:06] <k1l> after intsalling pepperflashplugin-nonfree do update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install --quiet
[00:07] <Gothicspeaker> Chuck_Norris: I did everything what you did, but the last step, freshplayer, doesn't work
[00:08] <Gothicspeaker> Chuck_Norris: Oh, no problem here, I didn't scroll to the top right
[00:08] <Gothicspeaker> Do I need to restart?
[00:08] <Gothicspeaker> Flash still doesn't show
[00:08] <Gothicspeaker> ok wait, I 'll restart
[00:09] <Chuck_Norris> Gothicspeaker: just close and re-open firefox
[00:10] <freeroute> so I'm trying to free up my swap a bit I have the following swap situation (hopefully it illustrates this well) - http://kpaste.net/1b909eb3 - so can I in this can swapoff and then swapon and expect everything to be back to normal, except with a fresh swap?
[00:10] <freeroute> or do I have to apply special methods just because it's a cryptswap?
[00:10] <Gothicspeaker> Yes, it works for FF now
[00:10] <Gothicspeaker> How can I make it work for Google Chrome?
[00:10] <Gothicspeaker> Does it work for Chrome too?
[00:10] <k1l> *sigh*
[00:10] <notfadssssssss> eric^^:
[00:10] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: nope ;\
[00:10] <Gothicspeaker> Why do you sigh k1l?
[00:11] <Gothicspeaker> It doesn't work at Google Chrome for me.
[00:11] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: i just explained and you still missusing your enter key
[00:11] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: so the issue you see is the efi shell is not reading the HDDs
[00:11] <Chuck_Norris> Gothicspeaker: well, i mah case, i am using chromium, i don't have installed chrome, but, i am having segfault in chromium, so i am only using firefox
[00:11] <wafflej0ck> Gothicspeaker, regular chrome keeps it's own version of pepperflash updated shouldn't be an issue check chrome://plugins
[00:11] <Gothicspeaker> But k1l, I did exactly what you said, and it doesn't work.
[00:12] <wafflej0ck> Gothicspeaker, check the URL in chrome I just posted
[00:13] <Chuck_Norris> Gothicspeaker: in chromium i can't even open the "store" or what ever its call,  bonus (just to check your flash :p):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iNn4ilhjYE
[00:13] <Gothicspeaker> wafflej0ck: There is no Flash Player among those 3 plugins. It only says:   Chrome PDF Viewer, Chromoting Viewer and Google Talk
[00:13] <wafflej0ck> Gothicspeaker, you should see the path to the shared object it's using for the flash plugin, for me it's /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
[00:13] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: yeah, looks like it, i'd recommend asking in #ubuntu-server as the threads that came up while searching for that error all had servers, they might know about it
[00:14] <wafflej0ck> Gothicspeaker, http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/enable-flash-player-google-chrome.html <-- you can try checking out what's here, no idea why it would be disabled though
[00:14] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: thanks for all the help btw really means alot
[00:14] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: no problem
[00:14] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: I gotta go to sleep been at this for like a full 20 hours now
[00:25] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: yikes, ok goodnight
[00:28] <ProfessorKaos64> I've been getting into building ppa packages lately for Trusty. What determines if the package is build for Trust and not Utopic?
[00:29] <|aaron> having trouble with my new ubuntu install. when i boot up i get a black background with no task bar/menu. i have a mouse cursor, and i can ctrl+alt+del to bring up task manager but thats about it
[00:29] <|aaron> fresh install of 14.10 with proprietary nvidia drivers
[00:32] <chaotix> hey
[00:32] <chaotix> what is the correct forum or channel to suggest ideas for the future?
[00:33] <somsip> chaotix: the future of what?
[00:33] <chaotix> of ubuntu, of course!  :P
[00:33] <bubbasaures> ProfessorKaos64, Look at the ppa's web page
[00:34] <ProfessorKaos64> I've built pkgs on my 14.04 vm bubbasaures , just wondering do I need to be on a Utopic 14.10 machine to upload packages to Utopic or make them available, im a bit new to PPA's, still learning
[00:35] <bubbasaures> ProfessorKaos64, PPA's are third party not supported here repos, any repo in general has a release tag, look at your sources.list for example
[00:35] <ProfessorKaos64> ok thank you
[00:36] <bubbasaures> ProfessorKaos64, Releases outside like utopic in trusty etc are really not supported and a bad idea in general, unless you know what you're doing.
[00:37] <bubbasaures> yah gotta know as the help is not really around in any ease
[00:43] <Gothicspeaker> Hmmmm
[00:43] <Gothicspeaker> it's not that easy to make Flash work on Google Chrome :(
[00:43] <Gothicspeaker> My family says too how for their computers it is all messed up now
[00:43] <Gothicspeaker> with that Ubuntu Update
[00:48] <|aaron> having trouble with my new ubuntu install. when i boot up i get a black background with no task bar/menu. i have a mouse cursor, and i can ctrl+alt+del to bring up task manager but thats about it.. can anyone help?
[00:50] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Have you tried "recovery" mode to see what results - maybe graphics related ?
[00:53] <|aaron> bashing-om: the grub recovery option brings me to a tty console menu.. are you referring to the "failsafeX" option here?
[00:54] <|aaron> bashing-om: that gives me an error dialog about needing to configure my input devices, but mouse/keyboard dont work
[00:54] <|aaron> bashing-om: i can get to the root shell prompt though
[00:55] <Bashing-om> |aaron: At that fail safe menu, choose "resume normal boot", do you now boot to the GUI ( degraded graphics is OK at this point ) .
[00:55] <ubnoobtu> Hey all, I am having an issue, I can install or u[grade anything. I just rebooted and opened snaptic manager, and got this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637762/
[00:56] <|aaron> bashing-om: that gives me the same issue - black background, can move the mouse and bring up task manager but no launcher etc
[00:56] <ubnoobtu> i cant*
[00:56] <|aaron> bashing-om: the only thing ive installed on here is the nvidia proprietary drivers. i guess i can try uninstalling those? they were working at first
[00:57] <teward> ubnoobtu: you didn't read the error did you?  run `dpkg --configure -a` and finish config steps there
[00:57] <ubnoobtu> it hasnt worked before, I am ju
[00:57] <ubnoobtu> i am just going to try it now
[01:00] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Well, more than  justa graphics driver issue here. What graphics card(s) is installed -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit . To show what we are working with .
[01:00] <|aaron> bashing-om: its a quadro k2200. one sec rebooting
[01:01] <bradley23228> hello
[01:02] <ubnoobtu> so  i'VE GOT A NEW ERROR WHEN TRYING TO INSTALL UPGRADES. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637784/
[01:04] <teward> ubnoobtu: stop with the caps please?
[01:05] <teward> ubnoobtu: looks like there's a package in there that has a bug in there - which version of Ubuntu are you on
[01:05] <ubnoobtu> Ok. Sorry, I'm justburnt out from trying to troubleshoot this dinglehandedly
[01:05] <ubnoobtu> 12.04
[01:05] <|aaron> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637793/
[01:07] <|aaron> bashing-om: yeah i removed the nvidia driver and booted with nomodeset and i still have the same problem
[01:07] <shwaiil> heya
[01:07] <|aaron> bashing-om: which is weird because it worked fine when i originally installed last night, and the only thing ive done since is install the nvidia driver
[01:08] <shwaiil> Q: I'm on a ubuntu desktop connected to win using team viewer. I've got a external HDD that I'd like to backup stuff to, from teamviewer win, here to ubuntu USBU connected external HDD. Is setting up a FTP server the easiest way to do this ? Any tips or suggestions ? thanks!
[01:09] <mjayk> ubnoobtu: haya
[01:09] <mjayk> ubnoobtu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/350505/unable-to-run-any-apt-get-command have a look at that should work for you
[01:10] <ubnoobtu> okay, ill give it a shot
[01:11] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Still, boot to the GUI login, key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console, login here (username and password - there is NO reposinse when password entered) and provide the requested lspce output . We look then and see next what driver is installed and IF it matches the card .
[01:11] <Bashing-om> lcpci*
[01:11] <|aaron> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637793/
[01:12] <ubnoobtu> mjayk: So, what am I suppose to do, with cd /var/lib/dpkg/info?
[01:12] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637793/ .
[01:12] <|aaron> bashing-om: it was definitely the correct driver, i downloaded it from nvidias site. the current stable verison anyway.
[01:13] <|aaron> bashing-om: unless i need to use a package or something
[01:17] <ubnoobtu> anyone updating ever get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637784/ ?
[01:18] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: try to remove /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[01:18] <ubnoobtu> how ?
[01:18] <EriC^^> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[01:19] <ubnoobtu> I got
[01:19] <ubnoobtu> connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[01:19] <bekks> EriC^^: How is that going to help?
[01:19] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: ok, sudo apt-get update
[01:20] <Bashing-om> |aaron: A quick look indicated the 340.xx driver .. so what is installed ? -> sudo lshw -C | pastebinit .
[01:20] <ubnoobtu> okay working EriC^^
[01:21] <bekks> EriC^^: The error is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0*.list
[01:21] <bekks> EriC^^: updating will ot fix the issue.
[01:22] <ubnoobtu> how can I fix libvncserver0?
[01:22] <bekks> ubnoobtu: pastebin ls -lha /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0*.list please
[01:22] <bekks> ubnoobtu: Which filenames are returned?
[01:23] <eaglesharklion> why is missing a final newline a fatal error?
[01:23] <EriC^^> !info libvncserver
[01:23] <bekks> eaglesharklion: because of the very specific constraints of dpkg
[01:23] <EriC^^> !find libvncserver
[01:23] <ubnoobtu> bekks: EriC^^ : After update, I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637837/
[01:23] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: type sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvncserver0
[01:23] <ubnoobtu> I will do that next bekks
[01:24] <bekks> EriC^^: That will not fix the issue.
[01:24] <eaglesharklion> manually add that newline
[01:24] <bekks> EriC^^: The issue is a missing newline which prevents all package operations.
[01:24] <bekks> eaglesharklion: exactly.
[01:25] <bekks> ubnoobtu: Please pastebin the filelist.
[01:25] <ubnoobtu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637842/
[01:25] <shwaiil> Q: I need to setup an FTP server on ubuntu desktop. The file path needs to be an external usb hdd. Is that possible ? Any software recommendation ? Thanks
[01:25] <ubnoobtu> I typed http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637842/
[01:25] <squinty> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/apt-get-dpkg-error-files-list-file-missing-final-newline-271118/    seems that *.list file can get scrambled too.  article says to delete and then reinstall package
[01:25] <ubnoobtu> err
[01:26] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list /libvncserver0.list
[01:26] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: then sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvncserver0
[01:26] <bekks> EriC^^: First delete, then reinstall - otherwise the install will get prevented.
[01:27] <ubnoobtu> okay do what?
[01:27] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list /libvncserver0.list
[01:27] <bekks> ubnoobtu: stop it please :)
[01:27] <bekks> ubnoobtu: Show us the contents of that file please: cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list
[01:28] <ubnoobtu> okay sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list /libvncserver0.list done
[01:28] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: then sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvncserver0
[01:28] <bekks> Ok, whatever, people in here try to fire canons instead investigating and fixing the actual issue.
[01:28] <ubnoobtu> sorry bekks
[01:29] <ubnoobtu> im trying to figure it out
[01:29] <bekks> ubnoobtu: It's not your fault :)
[01:29] <ubnoobtu> EriC^^:  I got E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:29] <EriC^^> bekks: it already says what the issue is
[01:29] <ubnoobtu> imma go with bekks advice now
[01:29] <bekks> EriC^^: And we still dont know why. Either a missing newline OR a scrambled package list.
[01:29] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Still with us ?
[01:29] <squinty> ubnoobtu:  if you have synaptic open you need to close it first
[01:30] <bekks> EriC^^: Since it seems that you want to solve that issue, please continue.
[01:30] <EriC^^> bekks: so? moving the file and reinstalling should make a new .list
[01:30] <EriC^^> problem solved
[01:30] <|aaron> bashing-om: sorry yes
[01:30] <bekks> EriC^^: Fixing the file would be more targetting.
[01:30] <|aaron> bashing-om: 340.65 was the driver i installed earlier. its uninstalled at the moment
[01:30] <sheer> hello, just installed ubuntu. scrolling works but not if i push it to go up fast
[01:30] <sheer> any ideas?
[01:30] <sheer> maybe a mouse driver?
[01:31] <ubnoobtu> okay closed snaptic
[01:31] <ubnoobtu> what did I need to do
[01:31] <ubnoobtu> lol
[01:31] <EriC^^> bekks: helping the user with his problem would be more targetting
[01:31] <EriC^^> ( if you know what i mean )
[01:31] <EriC^^> this is great if i motivate you to help though
[01:31] <ubnoobtu> connell@connell-laptop:~$ cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list cat: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list: No such file or directory connell@connell-laptop:~$
[01:32]  * squinty has seen newbies trying to "fix" txt files turn into a nightmare.  :P
[01:32] <Bashing-om> |aaron: I had expected the 340.32 driver .. How did you uninstall the proprietary driver presently ?
[01:32] <bekks> EriC^^: If you know what I: finding the most easy way to fix the easy instead of firing nukes is even more targetting. Just continue, I'm resting that case.
[01:32] <ubnoobtu> I did cat, and got connell@connell-laptop:~$ cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list cat: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list: No such file or directory connell@connell-laptop:~$
[01:32] <bekks> *I mean:
[01:32] <|aaron> bashing-om: --uninstall switch on the installer package
[01:33] <EriC^^> bekks: what are you talking about? deleting the file and have apt make a new one what's wrong with that?
[01:33] <EriC^^> bekks: you want to edit it and fix it go ahead
[01:33] <|aaron> bashing-om: when i selected my card on nvidias site it gives me this page with the 340.65 driver http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/80647/en-us
[01:33] <ubnoobtu> im going to have to have a cigarette at with rate, lol. I am having a headacke trying to get back into ubuntu, i just managed to repair this laptop, and now i cant gte this issue fixed easily
[01:33] <bekks> EriC^^: No, if you think that not looking at that file is the proper approach, continue. I am rsting that case as I said.
[01:33] <Bashing-om> |aaron: OK, How bout we do the 'buntu way and install from the software repository ?
[01:34] <ubnoobtu> If  have to fix that file, that'd be cool, if I can just reinstall it, thatd be cool too
[01:34] <|aaron> bashing-om: sure okay. maybe i should do a clean install of ubuntu first?
[01:34] <ubnoobtu> I can work through any  issue, just only in proper order, you kno
[01:34] <EriC^^> bekks: what will looking at it help? you want to file a bug report?
[01:35] <ubnoobtu> anyone want to go private?
[01:36] <bekks> EriC^^: If the file list got corrupted, filing a bug would be the generic way to fix it for other users, indeed. Just continue with your approach.
[01:36] <EriC^^> bekks: the file is still in /libserver ... feel free to look at it and send it anywhere
[01:36] <bekks> EriC^^: You took over the case, you solve it.
[01:36] <Bashing-om> |aaron: A (RE-)install is up to you, but I do not think it is needed for a simple case of installing a grahics driver . This is, after all, your system - you are the man .
[01:36] <EriC^^> bekks: i didnt take over anything
[01:36] <EriC^^> bekks: if you think there is a better way that will be more permanent etc.
[01:37] <EriC^^> help him
[01:37]  * monkeyjuice thinks ubnoobtu would like to get it fix
[01:37] <Chuck_Norris> bekks: then if you wont help or solve anything, just "shut up" let EriC^^ do his things
[01:38] <|aaron> bashing-om: wow there are a ton of nvidia packages for ubuntu. do you know which one i need
[01:38] <ubnoobtu> uhhh
[01:38] <ubnoobtu> brb for 5. smoke break
[01:38] <function9x> Chuck_Norris: bekks  is a nice guy, I've seen him help a lot of people, sometime he holds their hands lol
[01:38]  * Chuck_Norris is tired of trolls interrupting while people help
[01:39] <bekks> Chuck_Norris: I dont know how that turned into your business into showing attitudes at people. I repeatedly said that EriC^^ should continue with his approach, so either stop interrupting or start helping.
[01:40]  * Chuck_Norris wont read anything nor answer anything cuz will contribute to trash talkin'
[01:41] <isene> Need some help in what appears to be 'up shit creek'; I am now running my pc from the Boot-Repair usb disk. I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 and then my Samsung NP9004X will not boot from the HD. But, the boot-repair session finds and mounts my HD (sda2) alright. I have run the boot repair and it says it repaired the boot - but still won't actually boot from the hd. Help.
[01:41] <aspidites> hello
[01:42] <Bashing-om> |aaron: The package manager is smart real smart. 1st is to make sure that all the former Nvidia files are gone . dpkg -l  | grep nvidia , sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" . If there are no files present we can continue to install from the repo .
[01:43] <CalebW> I need some help with unity and compiz(I think..) my laptop was working fine earlier today but all of the sudden I try to login and it freezes  at the bakground. I can move the mouse, but nothing else shows up.
[01:43] <|aaron> bashing-om: well im reinstalling ubuntu right now
[01:43] <CalebW> And it's happining to all users not hust me.
[01:43] <|aaron> bashing-om: but what do i need to do to install from the repo?
[01:43] <CalebW> just*
[01:44] <Bashing-om> |aaron: PK, not a problem .. when ya get done, and are less than happy with the graphics driver, let's investigate what " Additional Drivers " advocates for a graphics driver .
[01:44] <|aaron> bashing-om: ok got ya
[01:44] <CalebW> Anyone have any ideas?
[01:45] <aspidites> speaking of graphics drivers, what would cause video to freeze and sound to stutter/loop?
[01:45] <aviationcomputer> hello
[01:45] <aspidites> I initially thought overheating, but I'm at 52 degrees C and have read reports of pepole operating well into the 80s without issue
[01:45] <aspidites> hello aviationcomputer
[01:46] <Schilling> isene: one idea is to check and make sure your boot order is back to hhd...
[01:47] <CalebW> I've reinstalled unity and ubuntu-desktop, but that didn't help.
[01:47] <Schilling> it *should* boot to hd if it doesn't find the USB/DVD boot in place, but you might have to tell it the boot order. Just a guess to get you started, isene.
[01:47] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Did you do an update ? Have you tried to boot with an earlier kernel ?
[01:47] <ubnoobtu> Back
[01:48] <CalebW> Bashing-om: No, the only package I've installed today was python-visual
[01:48] <ubnoobtu> bekks: Im back if you are available
[01:49] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Hummm .. python, wonder what that might break .. hang on a bit and let me take a gander .
[01:49] <isene> Schilling: I did put the hd on top in the boot order in the bios setup. No go. Any other ideas?
[01:49] <CalebW> Bashing-om: I've already uninstalled it, but it didn't help.
[01:50] <aspidites> don't know what you're talking about isene, but if you're investigating boot issues, have you looked at your grub config as well?
[01:51] <Schilling> isene, I gotta say that's the only one I had. aspidites has a good idea though. Check your GRUB config, and search the forums for similar issues.
[01:51] <isene> OK. Thanks so far
[01:52] <robert_j_p_> Hi, can someone help me. I am running Ubuntu 14.04 on windows 8.1 using vitrual box 4.3.20. I am using intel 4600 HD integrated graphics card. I just installed some updates(blindly...) and my screen resolutions have been limited to a bunch of low resolutions. This happens just about every time I update anything and usually I just reinstall guest additions and it fixes it, I can then set my system back to 16:9 resolution. However 
[01:53] <CalebW> Bashing-om: libboost and libgtkglex were also installed when I installed python-visual, I removed them too but it didn't help anything.
[01:53] <ubnoobtu> okay
[01:53] <ubnoobtu> anyone around to help me ?
[01:53] <robert_j_p_> this time I still only have 4:3 resolutions. Any suggestions?
[01:54] <CalebW> What's your problem? -ubnoobtu
[01:55] <aspidites> robert_j_p_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451805/screen-resolution-problem-with-ubuntu-14-04-and-virtualbox
[01:55] <aspidites> i see you tried the chosen answer already, but perhaps the second one is of some help
[01:55] <robert_j_p_> aspidites, I have already reinstalled guest additions.
[01:55] <aspidites> highest voted rather, not chosen
[01:56] <aspidites> robert_j_p_: hence why i said to try the second option...
[01:56] <aspidites> the one that talks about going to system settings and x86 virtualization solutions
[01:56] <robert_j_p_> I have them enabled
[01:57] <robert_j_p_> If anything is there a way to just revert recent updates?
[01:58] <robert_j_p_> I am a programmer and I need the computer for work
[01:58] <robert_j_p_> I just want it to work again and I will update when I know what's going on
[01:58] <aspidites> robert_j_p_: http://forum.linuxbsdos.com/topic/201/solution-for-low-screen-resolution-in-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-14-10-and-virtualbox
[01:59] <CalebW> robert_j_p_: I suppose you could do a "cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "" and uninstall all of the receant packages.
[01:59] <aspidites> in particular, i'm wondering what the output of xrandr is
[01:59] <william1978> Hello everyone, quick question.  (And yes, I tried google, the forums and everything else before IRC).  How do I change a directory from hidden to unhidden?  (I don't mean to look at it, but to actually unhide it?)
[01:59] <aspidites> william1978: remove leading .
[01:59] <william1978> Thank you, that was my guess.
[01:59] <CalebW> william1978: "mv .<dir name> <dirname>"
[01:59] <robert_j_p_> It is just a bunch of 4:3 and one 9:5 resolution
[02:00] <robert_j_p_> but it's like 1/2 of my sceen
[02:00] <william1978> Next question, will that mess up my PlayOnLinux if I do this?
[02:00] <robert_j_p_> super annoying
[02:00] <mwsb> If it starts with a leading . (as in .hidden) remove the dot, if there is no dot, but it is still a hidden file, it's probably listed in the file .hidden, so remove the entry from that file.
[02:00] <Bashing-om> CalebW: well:  depends python-visual >> libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa. What now is the state of the package manager -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- are any errors reported ?
[02:00] <aspidites> not sure. i'm tempted to run 14.04 in virtualbox to see if i can reproduce that, robert_j_p_ (i'm technically not an ubuntu user)
[02:00] <aspidites> what's your native resolution, by chance?
[02:00] <william1978> We'll, there's one way to find out, thanks again.
[02:01] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvncserver0
[02:01] <aspidites> william1978: i'd look in settings to see if there's a different directory to point to
[02:01] <robert_j_p_> I think 1080 but either way it doesn't show
[02:01] <CalebW> Bashing-om: I'm upgrading right now but I haven't down so in a while so it's 200+ MB
[02:01] <robert_j_p_> just some low resolutions
[02:01] <sivik> Anyone ever set up a g key using xinput for a keyboard or mouse or headset?
[02:02] <ubnoobtu> okay EriC^^
[02:02] <Bashing-om> CalebW: OK, we be patient . 1st step is always with a happy package manager .
[02:02] <aspidites> william1978: a compromise might be to make a symbolic link to the hidden folder which isn't hidden
[02:03] <ubnoobtu> EriC^^:  I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637949/
[02:04] <william1978> We'll, what I am trying to do, is install DIII Latest patches, I need to point Battle.net to the directory, and thought the easiest way would be to unhide it.  It did not install properly with PlayOnLinux, but PlayOnLinux made the virtual drive for me (Which I really don't know how to do, yet) so that is why I used the gui.
[02:05] <william1978> So, the program isn't really in PlayOnLinux as an option.
[02:05] <william1978> Kind of stinks, I'm just smart enough to break things really really well!  LOL!
[02:05] <daftykins> william1978: did you look for channels for PlayonLinux, or check the wine database for compatibility? both are better ideas than asking OS support
[02:06] <william1978> Ah, will do.
[02:07] <ubnoobtu> EriC^^:  Did that fix it?
[02:07] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: ok, type ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list
[02:08] <ubnoobtu> EriC^^: connell@connell-laptop:~$ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list ls: cannot access /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list: No such file or directory
[02:08] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: ok, try sudo apt-get install libvncserver0
[02:09] <robert_j_p_> aspidites: I think I just figured it out. I was installing guest additions for an old version of virtual box...
[02:10] <robert_j_p_> let me reboot and I'll know if that was the problem
[02:10] <aspidites> nice -- i'd have thought the repos would have had the two in sync (vbox and guest additions)
[02:10] <aspidites> good luck
[02:11] <robert_j_p_> yea not sure what happened. I just assumed I was getting the right versions
[02:11] <sivik> anyone have any luck setting up g keys in linux?
[02:13] <daftykins> robert_j_p: how were you installing a different version, when the VM options just tell it to mount auto - were you manually picking an ISO?
[02:13] <robert_j_p> well crap that didn't work either
[02:13] <robert_j_p> so I tried at first with apt-get
[02:14] <robert_j_p> then with the menu "insert guest additions CD"
[02:14] <aspidites> sivik: do you mean this -> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/g15daemon.1.html ?
[02:14] <robert_j_p> So i have the right version now but still not resolutions
[02:14] <daftykins> robert_j_p: it'd be handy if you could post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log probably, i'm somewhat guessing there's a module failure on loading the vbox driver
[02:14] <robert_j_p> *no proper resolutions
[02:14] <sivik> aspidites, thats for the lcd on a g15 g510 keyboard.
[02:14] <sivik> I'm trying to program my headset
[02:15] <sivik> http://elgenieben.blogspot.com/2013/10/logitech-g930-headset-g-keys-under.html i'm trying to follow this but I don't know how to get the output for #3
[02:15] <daftykins> robert_j_p: do you follow me? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[02:16] <neebs> test 123
[02:16] <sivik> hi neebs
[02:16] <neebs> hi
[02:16] <daftykins> neebs: don't do that in here please.
[02:16] <neebs> is the mumble server down?
[02:16] <neebs> do what?
[02:17] <robert_j_p> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637986/
[02:17] <daftykins> what mumble server are you talking about? there's none relevant to here
[02:17] <sivik> Tests neebs and what mumble server are you referring to?
[02:18] <neebs> sorry wrong channel, but still would be cool if you want to join a mumble server
[02:18] <daftykins> neebs: what would? your talk is 100% irrelevant to this channel
[02:18] <robert_j_p> Well, I son'r understand all of what the logs are telling me but it doesn't look like anything is "failing to load"
[02:18] <sivik> I will believe if neebs gets kicked
[02:19] <neebs> look. i say this in the wrong channel.
[02:19] <daftykins> robert_j_p: yeah the module is loading fine and querying the EDID
[02:19] <daftykins> neebs: bye bye then
[02:19] <neebs> -.-
[02:19] <robert_j_p> I should give it 1080, but it's not getting that
[02:19] <robert_j_p> is there a way to try to just manually force it maybe?
[02:20] <daftykins> robert_j_p: line 408, maybe try googling it.
[02:20] <robert_j_p> ok
[02:20] <daftykins> [    17.017] (II) VBoxVideo(0): DDCModeFromDetailedTiming: 1440x795 Warning: We only handle separate sync.
[02:20] <daftykins> 1440x795 isn't a real res, looks like the window size of your vbox view
[02:21] <aspidites> speaking of forcing it, i'd be curious to know if setting the resolution through xrandr manually works (not that its ideal)
[02:21] <sivik> Any ideas on that aspidites
[02:23] <aspidites> sivik: ideas on  your headset you mean?
[02:24] <ioURT> hangover day
[02:24] <sivik> aspidites, g930
[02:25] <aspidites> unfortunately note. don't have that particular headset
[02:25] <sivik> aspidites, which headset do you have?
[02:26] <sivik> I'm just trying to get the key layout printed using the xinput command
[02:26] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: reinstalling the package should recreate the .list file, i tried it on my pc, no idea why it wasn't recreated, if you want you can move it back with sudo mv /libvncserver0.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list
[02:26] <aspidites> siberia v2
[02:27] <aspidites> no fancy buttons or anything.
[02:27] <sivik> oh
[02:27] <sivik> Well, this headset has some g keys and they work with the windows software but I haven't figure out how to set them in linux yet
[02:27] <Jake> Hi there, I'm on Ubuntu Server version 14.04.01 LTS, I can use ssh with private keys for a majority of users but one user returns the error message "Permission denied (publickey)."
[02:27] <revo> hey gents...& ladies
[02:27] <aspidites> i tend to try and buy hardware specifically marketting linux support or with known good drivers (CODE keyboard, roccat kone xtd mouse, xbox one controller)
[02:28] <eaglesharklion> sivik, what are the keys used for?
[02:28] <revo> can sum1 help me out...with this code
[02:28] <revo> ./"<Portable Nitro PDF 9 for Linux OS by TopLinuxApps.com>".run
[02:28] <ioURT> i want to buy a keyboard with an ubuntu key
[02:28] <revo> cant get this to run on xubuntu
[02:28] <revo> can sum1 help me out...with this code
[02:29] <revo> cant get this to run on xubuntu
[02:29] <revo> ./"<Portable Nitro PDF 9 for Linux OS by TopLinuxApps.com>".run
[02:29] <ioURT> i never used the wondows key in my life
[02:29] <aspidites> revo: is that run file executible?
[02:29] <sivik> eaglesharklion, they can be programmed to do different things like volumes and what not.
[02:29] <revo> yes ... ibeleive so
[02:29] <daftykins> revo: that is really not how to install software :)
[02:30] <revo> found this online
[02:30] <aspidites> though, i wouldn't recommend that particular installation method
[02:30] <daftykins> yeah don't do it
[02:30] <EriC^^> revo: maybe there's something similar in the repos
[02:30] <revo> http://www.toplinuxapps.com/2014/03/procedure-to-run-linux-software-and.html
[02:30] <aspidites> and I haven't heard of portable nitro..
[02:30] <revo> Eric...how doing m8
[02:30] <EriC^^> revo: great you?
[02:30] <eaglesharklion> ioURT, it works in ubuntu (wondows key), try it
[02:31] <EriC^^> revo: try okular maybe
[02:31] <revo> still learning..feels s*ht when i dont know how to operate with this os
[02:31] <EriC^^> !info okular
[02:31] <ioURT> i always missed the point of having that key
[02:31] <eaglesharklion> I just found out
[02:31] <revo> let me search that on ubuntu software
[02:32] <daftykins> revo: don't use even masked language in here please
[02:32] <revo> Eric...how do i install java on pc
[02:32] <revo> ok...sos m8:(
[02:32] <ioURT> revo is a troll
[02:33] <revo> troll, what that ?
[02:33] <revo> beginner ??
[02:33] <eaglesharklion> ioURT, it's advertisement. also puts in people minds pc = windows .. like wow, it's so integrated with the OS that there's even a windows key. It may also open the launch menu or something like that
[02:33] <revo> sorry all...fell out of place asking all this question, appologies
[02:34] <eaglesharklion> it's a clear sign of corruption in the industry
[02:34] <ioURT> winkey+e
[02:35] <revo> Eric...it doesnt allow pdf editing
[02:35] <EriC^^> revo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:35] <EriC^^> revo: oh
[02:35] <ioURT> does it open FM on linux too?
[02:37] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Ok, it's finished.
[02:37] <basil1x> ioURT, It might, or it's an extra key you can make do whatever you wish.  I have it being an AltGr key right now. ;)
[02:37] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, what is FM?
[02:37] <basil1x> Not having one bcos this Lenovo has a crap American keyboard... grrr...
[02:37] <eaglesharklion> File Manager
[02:37] <ioURT> try file manager
[02:37] <wafflej0ck> ah k
[02:37] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Great .. all done with "apt-get upgrade" and there is no "held packages" ?
[02:37] <revo> having a go at it now...just copying and pasting, see if i get tmy first soft installed via terminal
[02:37] <eaglesharklion> wooo I won!
[02:38] <wafflej0ck> was thinking frequency modulation :P
[02:38] <EriC^^> !info pdftk | revo
[02:38] <ioURT> i was thinking faping mondays
[02:38] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Yes, I have some packages that have been kept back
[02:39] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, I have a Das Keyboard with the keys that are blank, so no "winkey" just keys
[02:40] <ioURT> wafflej0ck:another troll
[02:40] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, but yeah can map it to whatever
[02:40] <bazhang> ioURT, stop that
[02:41] <eaglesharklion> what is a Das keyboard?
[02:41] <Bashing-om> CalebW: A small amount of risk. doing this in the dark, but -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- which will install those held packages . This has nothing to do with a release upgrade .
[02:41] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, really should only be talking support in here, general discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:41] <revo> thx gents..ill downloaded and have a go...but from comments it seems editing is not build in...just merging
[02:41] <basil1x> You can get one of these cheap. ;) http://www.amazon.com/Hello-Kitty-Keyboard-Standard-Computer/dp/B00C8QWO1W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1419820844&sr=8-3&keywords=hello+kitty+keyboard
[02:41] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I have a couple questions when someone has a moment.
[02:41] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, it's just a clicky keyboard http://www.amazon.com/Das-Keyboard-Model-Ultimate-Mechanical/dp/B003F7WXTG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1419820892&sr=8-2&keywords=das+keyboards
[02:42] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, is a really nice keyboard but pretty pricey, took it apart though it's built like brick, should last a long time
[02:42] <ioURT> im using a MS keybaord and it survived a coffee spill so kudos for that
[02:43] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, feel free to ask
[02:43] <Bashing-om> !ask | PolarisX|MetalSt Can not help if we do not know:
[02:43] <revo> Eric...since the boot incident that i had to remove windows completly to install xubuntu....how do i go about partition system to install windows and also add grub menu
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I picked up a single core TF-20 Athlon laptop
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Aaaaaand I need to understand how to cut down on CPU usage
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I can't run teamspeak, it uses 70% CPU
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> and someone blamed it on unity
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> But I dont know enough to say
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, that's in part probably true
[02:44] <revo> also, how do i change my colour fonts here to make it RED like u have
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, you can check, top or the system tools to see what is using the CPU
[02:44] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I was looking in htop
[02:44] <revo> got it
[02:44] <eynar> quien habla español??
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, with older hardware lubuntu (Lxde) or Xubunutu (XFCE) would probably be lighter on resources
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> !es | eynar
[02:44] <PolarisX|MetalSt> and its /usr/bin/x - core
[02:44] <PolarisX|MetalSt> ect ect
[02:45] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Ok I'll do it in a bit. I'm watching Amazon right now and need the bandwidth.
[02:45] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Seems that teamspeak sends it for a ride.
[02:45] <EriC^^> revo: boot a live usb, and use gparted to resize the partition
[02:45] <ioURT> linux is too passé so im going to install FreeBSD
[02:45] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, yeah I'd suggest checking out Lubuntu and Xubuntu but teamspeak or whatever your run on top may still eat a lot of resources
[02:45] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I understand
[02:46] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, you can run a liveCD to try out Xubuntu or whatever though and see if it helps
[02:46] <revo>  ok, so live usb is the same as when i downloaded xubuntu ???
[02:46] <Bashing-om> PolarisX|MetalSt: A single core Athlon processor, might get better performance install (L)ubuntu - And a lot depends on the graphics chip. Is the memory for the graphics taken from the processor ? .
[02:46] <numbertheorist> hello all, i am very new to linux. can anyone suggest a free resource that i can use to help me familiarize myself with and use linux?
[02:46] <jflory7_> Hello all. I am trying to install Ubuntu on an ASUS laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed. I am trying to make it run side-by-side with Windows. However, I am having some issues using the Aptio Setup Utility in the BIOS/UEFI to get Ubuntu to even load. I have followed the steps in this guide to no avail: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[02:46] <EriC^^> ioURT: ou la la .. c'est tres mechant
[02:46] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Yes, it has a Radeon 3200
[02:46] <jflory7_> The BIOS/UEFI on this laptop is confusing and does not have a clear way to make Ubuntu load.
[02:46] <ioURT> french is the true hipster lingo
[02:46] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I got it for free, my main is an 8 core @ 4.6Ghz
[02:46] <PolarisX|MetalSt> and my server is an e3 Xeon
[02:47] <jflory7_> Thank you Microsoft for being so wonderful :P
[02:47] <PolarisX|MetalSt> So I'm not used to fighting for cpu time, lol
[02:47] <ioURT> most hipsters are canadien anyways
[02:47] <Bashing-om> CalebW: OK, no big hurry .. But it is close to my retirement time for this session . We may have to continue this tomorrow.
[02:47] <eaglesharklion> PolarisX|MetalSt, what game are you playing?
[02:47] <ioURT> for them speaking true freanch is the ultimate hipster chanlenge
[02:48] <ioURT> challenge
[02:48] <numbertheorist> can anyone suggest a good starting place for a new linux user?
[02:48] <PolarisX|MetalSt> No games, its being set up as an SSH / Browsing / learning machine
[02:48] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, like using linux?
[02:48] <jflory7_> numbertheorist: Depends on what you want to do
[02:48] <eaglesharklion> what is teamspeak then?
[02:48] <dts|pokeball> eagles0513875, voip
[02:48] <CalebW> Bashing-om: it will be 40 or so min before I can do it. What time will you be on tomorrow?
[02:48] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I manage a few people for a radio station that work on the dedi server
[02:48] <numbertheorist> i just need to learn linux, how to install/remove packages, the basics, etc.
[02:48] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I want to learn more so I can relate to my team better
[02:49] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I don't feel you can be a good manager without being hands on with your team
[02:49] <ioURT> teamspeak is the ultimate RDP
[02:49] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, there are lots of videos on YouTube, depends on your learning style though
[02:49] <Bashing-om> CalebW: I be on about 2100 GMT ..
[02:49] <squinty> !manual | numbertheorist
[02:49] <jflory7_> numbertheorist: I don't know about what may work for you, but the best thing that got me going on Linux was learning and installing different software on a VPS. For example, there's the popular Minecraft server software called Multicraft that might be fun for you to install.
[02:50] <numbertheorist> thank you for the info
[02:50] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, the great thing about linux is, unless you want to do support, basically just google "how to do x with y on z" whenever you have an issue. thats what i do
[02:50] <ioURT> theres a new ubuntu FM
[02:50] <revo>  ok Eric i got it, use the xubuntu live usb to start system and then gparted...how should i partition drives to install win and also have grub menu ?
[02:50] <numbertheorist> whats a vps?
[02:50] <dts|pokeball> thank god for digitl ocean btw
[02:50] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I understand the machine is under powered however, so if teamspeak is a resource hog so be it
[02:50] <jflory7_> VPS = virtual private server
[02:50] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, its a server that you ren
[02:50] <dts|pokeball> t
[02:50] <numbertheorist> ahh
[02:50] <CalebW> Bashing-om: what should I do after I dist-upgrade?
[02:50] <squinty> numbertheorist:  Books: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz   http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php http://
[02:50] <jflory7_> As compared to a dedicated server.
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, yeah you can just use virtualbox too though
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, but cheap VPSes are pretty sweet
[02:50] <ioURT> if i tun a VPN people will rent it from me?
[02:51] <ioURT> tun/run
[02:51] <dts|pokeball> jflory7_, by dedicated do you mean a server that you have local hacces too?
[02:51] <jflory7_> Antone think they might know the solution to this problem? I am trying to install Ubuntu on an ASUS laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed. I am trying to make it run side-by-side with Windows. However, I am having some issues using the Aptio Setup Utility in the BIOS/UEFI to get Ubuntu to even load. I have followed the steps in this guide to no avail: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8
[02:51] <jflory7_> The BIOS/UEFI on this laptop is confusing and does not have a clear way to make Ubuntu load.
[02:51] <dts|pokeball> ioURT, VPS not VPN
[02:51] <numbertheorist> well, ive done the google x,y,z thing. but id like to know what terms like sudo, apt, etc actually mean. instead of just copying/pasting lines of code
[02:51] <dts|pokeball> if you have some money, i really recommend demonvps
[02:52] <jflory7_> dts|pokeball: Dedicated as in renting out the entire machine versus sharing it with other clients
[02:52] <dts|pokeball> jflory7_, ah
[02:52] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, you can get books on the topic too but the manual pages linked and just doing things is generally more conducive to learning/retaining things
[02:52] <PolarisX|MetalSt> My organization does everything through OVH /Soyoustart adn we are having great luck
[02:52] <Bashing-om> CalebW: See what card is installed and IF there is a driver installed (sudo lshw -C display ), and IF that driver is proprietary .. see what happens with a 'nomodeset' boot parameter.
[02:52] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, also can use the, man command to get more info about specific programs
[02:52] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, sudo is for giving you temporary access to root. apt(itude) is a package manager
[02:52] <dts|pokeball> man is your bible
[02:53] <dts|pokeball> hold tight to it and never let it go
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, there are also courses you can take online if you're interested in getting some more guided lessons
[02:53] <ioURT> i hate religion
[02:53] <|aaron> bashing-om: finished reinstalling. the 'additional drivers' tab is empty
[02:53] <numbertheorist> so sudo logs you in as an admin basically?
[02:53] <CalebW> It's an Intel graphic card
[02:53] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, kind of. su root does that (or at least i think its su root)
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, essentially but check man sudo, can see details
[02:54] <dts|pokeball> sudo just lets you do what a root can for that one command
[02:54] <dts|pokeball> and wafflej0ck is correct
[02:54] <numbertheorist> i'm not much for courses, i already have a full course load at school ;P
[02:54] <ioURT> but theres no toot in ubuntu
[02:54] <ioURT> root
[02:54] <dts|pokeball> yes there is...
[02:54] <sivik> Is there a way to match one key press with a combination of other keys?
[02:54] <ioURT> there isnt
[02:54] <dts|pokeball> considering im logged in as root to my vps atm, yes there is
[02:54] <EriC^^> revo: how big is your disk?
[02:55] <ioURT> you can add root user on ubuntu
[02:55] <numbertheorist> ty
[02:55] <revo> 500gb
[02:55] <dts|pokeball> ioURT, root is the default user
[02:55] <dts|pokeball> it creates a root user on install
[02:55] <dts|pokeball> for desktop at lelast
[02:55] <EriC^^> revo: ok you can give windows as much as you want i guess
[02:55] <EriC^^> revo: 100gb or something
[02:55] <dts|pokeball> though the server distro should too
[02:55] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Humm .. Surprising .. what returns -> ubuntu-drivers devices , ubuntu-drivers list <- ??
[02:56] <revo> ok, but how should i set it though...because when i run the windows cd, it says its going to format the entire drive
[02:56] <revo> for instance
[02:56] <ioURT> its going to format the entire partition
[02:57] <revo> when installing xubuntu,  i parted the disk in 3 diferent logical system
[02:57] <revo> one for the swap
[02:57] <chettikandathil> waking up from pmsuspend, i get a black screen. is there a patch for this bug?
[02:57] <EriC^^> revo: you have to choose manual partitioning in windows
[02:57] <revo> another as mount point
[02:57] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Intel ? not according to that last output we looked at .. that were Nvidia ? Something going on here we are not aware of like ->> hybrid Graphics <<-- ??
[02:57] <numbertheorist> ooh, thx. this man command will help a lot to puzzle out the terminal
[02:57] <revo> and the other as root
[02:57] <ady> can anyone tell me why hdmi dont work on laastest version of ubuntu ?
[02:57] <wafflej0ck> ady, should be fine are you on 14.04 or 14.10?
[02:57] <revo> yeah, but windows 8 doesnt give you that option
[02:57] <revo> it just says install
[02:58] <wafflej0ck> ady, I'm on 14.04 and all good with HDMI and VGA out hooked up Intel HD4000 graphics chipset
[02:58] <EriC^^> revo: there's a manual partitioning menu
[02:58] <revo> is there any youtube videos you can forward link...
[02:59] <EriC^^> not really
[02:59] <revo> be easier if i follow a video tut while doing t6hat
[02:59] <ioURT> why dont intell stop trying to make grafics?
[02:59] <ady> wafflej0ck so mine broken
[02:59] <revo> ok
[02:59] <revo> ok so manual partition
[02:59] <revo> and then ....
[02:59] <ioURT> at least on desktops
[02:59] <cabbie> ive tried different instals when i boot from cd it drops then only cursor upper left
[03:00] <EriC^^> revo: hold on
[03:00] <EriC^^> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/the-complete-guide-to-a-windows-8-clean-installation/
[03:00] <EriC^^> figure F
[03:00] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, eh it's gotten better, they aren't too terrible and good to give Nvidia and ATI some competition
[03:01] <|aaron> bashing-om: both of those commands return nothing
[03:01] <ioURT> like intell isnt expensive enough
[03:01] <revo> er <tab>
[03:01] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, mine has some problem CRTC error when having the built in monitor plus two externals but aside from that it's all good for HD video just not great for games
[03:01] <Bashing-om> CalebW: IF this is integrated "It's an Intel graphic card" AND an PCIE Nvidia graphics card, then : http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/prime-indicator-lets-you-quickly-switch.html .
[03:01] <ioURT> anything can play HD movies
[03:01] <revo> er <tab>
[03:02] <ioURT> even a mobile cpu
[03:02] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, not true you should see my parents computer :)
[03:02] <EriC^^> revo: press tab
[03:02] <revo> EriC^^,  testing
[03:02] <ioURT> even raspbery
[03:02] <ioURT> can play HD
[03:02] <numbertheorist> when i try to log in as the superuser using the su command, the terminal won't accept my password. am i missing something?
[03:02] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, Raspberry Pi can but it's at the peak of it's performance
[03:02] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, and it has some decent GPU
[03:03] <ioURT> who cares just as long as it can
[03:03] <wafflej0ck> right but with no GPU it doesn't work
[03:03] <wafflej0ck> even with a decent relatively modern CPU
[03:03] <ioURT> its not like you will be doing anything else wile watching the movie
[03:03] <chettikandathil> numbertheorist, can you do sudo <command>?
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, yeah but on a 3.0GHz single core it's still choppy playing back video (HD is a frame every 10 seconds or something)
[03:04] <ioURT> single core has grafics?
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> with no GPU I mean and running a regular Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome edition
[03:04] <numbertheorist> yeah, i just tried using the su command to login as the superuser(im assuming thats the root), but it wont accept my password, says authentication failed
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, no it's a piece of junk, but sayin' they still exist, almost gone but still exists, and intel graphics are good enough for stuff outside of gaming
[03:05] <revo>  EriC^^  test
[03:05] <chettikandathil> numbertheorist, if you know your password, try sudo su. it will work. with your password.
[03:05] <ioURT> with out GPU on old single core you cant watch anything
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> yeah terrible
[03:05] <dts|pokeball> where can i find my httpd.conf file?
[03:05] <dts|pokeball> for apache?
[03:05] <numbertheorist> yeah that worked
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> dtcrshr, /etc/apache2
[03:05] <revo>  EriC^^  test
[03:05] <somsip> dts|pokeball: /etc/apache2
[03:05] <ioURT> its a headless machine
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> oops meant dts|pokeball
[03:06] <dts|pokeball> someon, ty
[03:06] <ioURT> no gpu no screen .
[03:06] <dts|pokeball> ty wafflej0ck
[03:06] <ioURT> LOL
[03:06] <Bashing-om> |aaron: I am done for this session, IF you think you have hybrid grahics, homework: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics .
[03:06] <CalebW> Bashing-om: What do you mean the last output we looked at?
[03:06] <EriC^^> revo: yeah it's working great
[03:06] <|aaron> bashing-om: thanks, no i doubt
[03:06] <CalebW> Bashing-om: What do you mean the last output we looked at?
[03:06] <|aaron> dont*
[03:06] <numbertheorist> so what is the superuser password, if it's not someone's main account password?
[03:07] <|aaron> anyone have any idea on how to get a quadro k2200 working with ubuntu? ive tried the installer from nvidia's site and the nvidia-current package, both give me the same result when i reboot: desktop background comes up but no menus/launcher/etc
[03:07] <eaglesharklion> there is none unless you set one up numbertheorist
[03:07] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, well I suppose saying "no graphics" was a stretch but no dedicated graphics chipset just on board junk, I threw a PCI one in there at some point but had physical problems cause of crappy case design so ended up taking it out
[03:07] <numbertheorist> ahh
[03:07] <Bashing-om> CalebW: I could have my wires crossed, were we not working with an Nvidia, to install the 304.32/65 driver ?
[03:07] <eaglesharklion> you just use sudo to run commands as root
[03:07] <ioURT> thats hoe secure ubuntu is for you
[03:08] <ioURT> anything can run with admin
[03:08] <ioURT> just like windows
[03:08] <ioURT> :)
[03:08] <numbertheorist> so thats why ppl say linux is more secure than windows, everything is more locked down
[03:08] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, it's part of it
[03:09] <revo> EriC^^,  coming back to partition system
[03:09] <ioURT> linux is safer from user input
[03:09] <EriC^^> revo: ok
[03:09] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, part of it is the size and education of the community, part of it is the system itself in terms of the kernel ring buffer and security stuff the kernel does to protect itself
[03:09] <revo> EriC^^,  go manual and then choose what ?
[03:09] <ioURT> if you are using the old distros
[03:09] <revo> EriC^^,  actually wait a sec there
[03:10] <EriC^^> revo: press on the free unallocated space, then press install there
[03:10] <ioURT> ubuntu defeated that
[03:10] <dts|pokeball> somsip, it wasnt anywhere there, but i have to step away. can i get your help when i get back maybe?
[03:10] <revo> EriC^^,  what about the grub menu...i currently dont have one installed
[03:10] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, there are lots of things that tend to make it more secure, it's a big focus, but as we all saw with heartbleed and shell shock and poodle and stuff it doesn't mean it's completely free of errors or vulnerabilities, but it has a good track record in general
[03:10] <pixelkat> man
[03:10] <EriC^^> revo: grub's installed, it just doesn't show up
[03:10] <pixelkat> this channel is WAY more active than elementary
[03:10] <revo> EriC^^,  it just goes directly into xubuntu
[03:11] <ioURT> the secure OS is openBSD
[03:11] <revo> EriC^^,  meaning when i install windows back it will pop up <grub> at start
[03:11] <numbertheorist> probably being open source makes it more secure in general as exploits would be spotted more often
[03:11] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, I have heard good things about BSD (listen to BSD now shows and from a few others), and seems very security focused
[03:11] <ioURT> they just found s server exploits that date back from 1985
[03:12] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, yeah that's part of it too, we don't know what the heck MS is doing or any other proprietary stuff
[03:12] <pixelkat> whats best linux distro for making minecraft server?
[03:12] <EriC^^> revo: no, when you install windows it will eat grub and it will boot straight into windows
[03:12] <ioURT> its for cleaning up boot sector virus
[03:12] <EriC^^> revo: you'll have to use the live usb to reinstall grub afterwards
[03:13] <EriC^^> ioURT: like other bootloaders?
[03:13] <ioURT> if they boot virus
[03:13] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, a bit of it is security through obscurity too (not generally a good point but it's true) less users means a smaller target (not true on the server side though or mobile for that matter)
[03:13] <ioURT> you could make a bootloader that would install a trojan on your BIOS
[03:14] <revo> EriC^^,  and is there a tutorial on how to re-install grub whitout afctng my current installation of xubuntu?
[03:14] <ioURT> like a bios firmware update
[03:14] <ioURT> but only that its a virus/trojan
[03:14] <ioURT> and with intel vpro that would work wonders
[03:14] <Poizon> helo
[03:15] <wafflej0ck> hello Poizon
[03:15] <eaglesharklion> wafflej0ck, what is the kernel ring buffer?
[03:15] <EriC^^> !grub | revo
[03:15] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, http://www.computerhope.com/unix/dmesg.htm
[03:15] <Darknet> so i am running ubuntun on my digitalocean vps, and i want to add a ftp user to be allowed to upload stuff from a program called mircstats. I am unsure how to edit/add/remove ftp accounts. can someone explain me a little? or show me a guide? (not from 2001)
[03:15] <ioURT> http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-intel-vpro-exactly/
[03:16] <revo> hx guys
[03:16] <revo> thx
[03:16] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, there are some good wikipedia articles that explain how security elevation for the kernel to access certain things differs between OS X and Windows and Linux... will let you know if I can dig it up
[03:17] <ioURT> making a virus/trojan that flashes it self on the BIOS its every hacker wetdream
[03:17] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, this one gets into it a bit but think it was a different one I read before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel
[03:17] <ioURT> even after OS reinstall it would happily survive
[03:18] <numbertheorist> yeah, i was wondering about AV software for linux, there doesnt seem to be much
[03:18] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, kdenlive is nice for editing video
[03:18] <reki007> hello first time using IRC anyone can read this ?
[03:19] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, hydrogen is a pretty neat little music thing but think you need a ppa for that
[03:19] <wafflej0ck> reki007, yup we see you
[03:19] <numbertheorist> i meant antivirus, probably shoulve spelled it
[03:19] <reki007> wafflej0ck: :)
[03:19] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, ah hehe
[03:19] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, acronyms messing me up today :P
[03:19] <mladoux> numbertheorist, if you don't mind doing a lot of research, blender has a lot of options that make it a good video editor, however, it has a very steep learning curve.
[03:19] <ioURT> AV is just a panacea
[03:19] <pixelkat> did anyone asnwer my q about best linux distro for minecraft server?
[03:20] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, there is clamav but mostly for scanning for windows viruses, there's also rkhunter, and fail2ban (for blocking bad logins/IPs)
[03:20] <mladoux> pixelkat, anything server edition, pretty much all the same, minecraft just requires java really.
[03:20] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, oh yeah and lynis for checking for hardening steps you can take
[03:20] <PolarisX|MetalSt> What about tripwire for intrusion?
[03:20] <pixelkat> aye, ok
[03:20] <Novice201y> Hi. Do You recommend a client for Evernote, or an alternative to it? I need an app which db could be accessed on several machines (Linux, Windows, Android).
[03:21] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, have not seen that one...
[03:21] <eaglesharklion> you don't need antivirus software on ubuntu if you only install packages signed by ubuntu... what best can be done?
[03:21] <PolarisX|MetalSt> we use it on our dedicated box
[03:21] <ioURT> you can use the cloud to store all your files they run AV on them for you
[03:22] <ioURT> its a win win
[03:22] <numbertheorist> hmm, i might grab that lynis program
[03:22] <revo> EriC^^,  can i increase the size of my swap, the sytem created a default amount of my RAM 4gb but i wanted to have this twice the amount 8000mb
[03:22] <EriC^^> revo: it's not really needed usually
[03:23] <numbertheorist> well, i use a flash drive between lxle and windows 7, so ill probably grab clam as well
[03:23] <EriC^^> revo: i guess you have 4gb and it made 4gb swap
[03:23] <ioURT> windows virus dont run on linux
[03:23] <eaglesharklion> apt-get already checks every package's integrity at installation time
[03:23] <revo> EriC^^,  ok in that case...then leave it...saw a video of this girl nixie pixel, that shows to double up this size,
[03:23] <ioURT> you can run thrm under wine
[03:24] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Is that girls videos worth anything to follow or is she BS?
[03:24] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I saw a few along the way.
[03:24] <revo> its ok, i guess
[03:25] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, seems like a lot of work to run a virus :P but really I use it on a e-mail server, gotta scan those e-mails for your windows users
[03:25] <ioURT> can someone kline londoncalling ?
[03:25] <revo> i dont know nothing about ubuntu and in all honesty, i feels good to follow her videos as i get to mess about with this ystem and learn with my mistakes
[03:25] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Same, like I said I'm trying to manage a team but I don't know enough Linux to be hands on witht them and be the best manager I can
[03:26] <ioURT> too bad ubuntu doesent have snapshots
[03:26] <numbertheorist> yeah thats my main concern, i dont want a virus getting on my flash drive and then infecting my copy of windows i use on my other computer
[03:26] <EriC^^> ioURT: i think you can do that with lvm
[03:26] <|aaron> anyone have any idea on how to get a quadro k2200 working with ubuntu? ive tried the installer from nvidia's site, the nvidia-current package and sgfxi.. all give me the same result when i reboot: desktop background comes up but no menus/launcher/etc
[03:26] <ioURT> default install doesent use LVM
[03:26] <revo> would be great if i could insert the xubuntu installation help screen at boot...is there any way of adding that slide into my boot process ?
[03:27] <eaglesharklion> is this nixie pixel doing naked shit?
[03:27] <EriC^^> ioURT: it's an option
[03:27] <numbertheorist> nixie pixel is hot
[03:27] <revo> got really great info, actually i found out about this chat group there...i mean by pressing on the help button in that screen
[03:27] <ioURT> revo:did the default install
[03:28] <aaa801> so.. aparantly my apt is broken
[03:28] <revo> what?
[03:28] <aaa801> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/c45GoMGh
[03:28] <revo> default install ???
[03:28] <ioURT> i was talking to EriC^^
[03:28] <jeffrey_f> numbertheorist: You would need to put a good amount of effort into getting a virus in linux.  You can download it, but it needs specific permission to run and unlike Windows, nothing runs unless you run it (generally)
[03:29] <ioURT> you can get it from ppas
[03:29] <revo> what is that ppas
[03:29] <revo> r u talking to me ??
[03:30] <revo> dis is confusing
[03:30] <ioURT> im taslking to jeffrey_f
[03:30] <numbertheorist> i guess instead of using antivirus on linux, i could just always scan my flash drive with webroot on windows, before i use anything
[03:30] <jeffrey_f> ioURT: what is ppas?
[03:30] <pixelkat> personal package archives
[03:30] <numbertheorist> just to be on the safe side ;)
[03:30] <ioURT> !tell jeffrey_f about ppa
[03:31] <pixelkat> its where people host their scripts, .debs, etc.
[03:31] <jeffrey_f> ioURT: I know about ppa's......just not about ppas
[03:31] <numbertheorist> mainly im using linux right now for gnu octave, as it seems to have problems on windows. my professor recommended linux, said windows is shit lol
[03:31] <jeffrey_f> :}
[03:32] <ioURT> its the plural of ppa
[03:32] <eaglesharklion> your professor is wise
[03:32] <numbertheorist> what is ppa? i keep seeing that term
[03:32] <ioURT> jeffrey_f: maybe you need to go back to primary
[03:33] <numbertheorist> nvm, someone answered that above me
[03:33] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, it's a private repository run by someone in the world, lets you get packages but isn't checked by canonical
[03:33] <basil1x> ppa is a thingy that adds a private repo to apt
[03:33] <basil1x> What the corrugated one said.
[03:33] <numbertheorist> so theoretically ppas are more risky?
[03:33] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, yeah octave is interesting
[03:34] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, yea
[03:34] <numbertheorist> i see
[03:34] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, like sideloading apps on your phone
[03:34] <jeffrey_f> ioURT: I got that, just temporarily confused thinking ppas was something else.....Just used to seeing acronym plurals with an apostrophe
[03:34] <ioURT> depends on how much you trust ubuntu
[03:34] <basil1x> Theoretically.  In practice, it's hard to get by without one or two, if you're using Ubuntu for everything.
[03:34] <numbertheorist> i dont trust anyone lol
[03:34] <numbertheorist> everyone has an agenda
[03:34] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, eh well you gotta trust to some degree unless you're writing your whole system
[03:35] <Lor_> M'kay...Interesting thing here. For whatever reason, Ubuntu does not seem to like my Mac's Airport hardware..
[03:35] <ioURT> i dont even trust myself
[03:35] <numbertheorist> thats true
[03:35] <ioURT> i have a calendar
[03:35] <ioURT> it commes with ubuntu
[03:36] <brandonbullet> hey i need help with netflix and lubuntu 14.10
[03:36] <ioURT> ah lub
[03:36] <revo> is there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?
[03:37] <jeffrey_f> if you are paranoid, ya can always grab source, inspect it, then compile it
[03:37]  * basil1x passes over the silverfoil
[03:37] <brandonbullet> i still get the errorcode even tho libnss should be updated
[03:37] <ioURT> if you are paranoid you can make your OS from scratch
[03:38] <numbertheorist> the truth is out there
[03:38] <jeffrey_f> Thanks basil1x......
[03:38] <basil1x> LFS is not my kinda fun.
[03:38] <ioURT> i mean make your own kernel too
[03:38] <ioURT> and compiler
[03:38] <basil1x> *yuerkkk*
[03:38] <ioURT> odcourse
[03:38] <revo> is there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?
[03:39] <eaglesharklion> you don't need to make your own, only to check the source and compile yourself
[03:39] <numbertheorist> it doesnt matter anyways, privacy has ceased to exist by and large(if it ever existed)
[03:39] <revo> any1 ???
[03:39] <revo> is there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?
[03:39] <ioURT> you must make your compiler
[03:40] <ioURT> or read the compiler code
[03:40] <revo> iourt...r u talking 2 me
[03:40] <ioURT> and good luck with that
[03:40] <jeffrey_f> ioURT: my first run in with Linux was from an installer which booted a network loader, pulled source and compiled it as it went.  At some point, a few hours later, I had a bare-bones linux box with no GUI and no software..........Just Linux
[03:40] <numbertheorist> i know an app on windows, but not on linux
[03:40] <revo> ioURT,  wr u talking 2 me ?
[03:40] <ioURT> NO
[03:40] <eaglesharklion> problem: what system are you going to use to do that? can you trust it? chicken and egg problem :D
[03:41] <ioURT> do it on your own VM
[03:41] <brandonbullet> can anyone help?
[03:41] <eaglesharklion> or hand compile (to solve the problem you mentionned)
[03:42] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, just start manufacturing your own chips and boards :)
[03:42] <ioURT> you can do it using python
[03:42] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Why am I missing some system settings options? I'm on 14.10 and guides keep referencing me to settings that dont exist
[03:42] <revo> is there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?
[03:42] <ioURT> it dosent compile
[03:42] <ioURT> lol
[03:42] <eaglesharklion> just directly write your OS in machine langage
[03:42] <eaglesharklion> :D
[03:42] <numbertheorist> ive just started learning python
[03:42] <ioURT> isnt that the way its supposed to be?
[03:43] <revo> is there any xubuntu rooms here, can sum1 tell me how do i search for IRC channels
[03:43] <ioURT> the kernel should be writen in machine code
[03:43] <ioURT> asmmbler
[03:43] <ioURT> asm
[03:43] <eaglesharklion> it works well with other langages (like C)
[03:44] <numbertheorist> hell write it in binary
[03:44] <eaglesharklion> only some portions in assembly
[03:44] <eaglesharklion> machine langage is binary (not to be confused with asm)
[03:45] <numbertheorist> i see
[03:45] <ioURT> you should be able to write a microkernel all in ASM
[03:45] <numbertheorist> i thought machine language was assembly language
[03:45] <eaglesharklion> ioURT, it's hard enough in C
[03:45] <jeffrey_f> revo: do /list
[03:46] <ioURT> you could even have difrent instaces running on difrent cores
[03:46] <jeffrey_f> asm is barely above machine language
[03:46] <eaglesharklion> numbertheorist, asm is human readable/writable.. after assembling it results in machine code
[03:46] <Sa[i]nT> asm is barely human readable.
[03:46] <function9x> yep ^
[03:47] <ioURT> its readable bacecause binary its totally unreadable
[03:47] <numbertheorist> i see
[03:47] <wafflej0ck> yeah ASM-> machine code is a matter of mapping "human readable" like ADD, LOAD, MOVE, PUSH, POP into 0001, 0010, 0011
[03:48] <Sa[i]nT> I don't know if it would be that much faster than if it was written in C.
[03:48] <eaglesharklion> wafflej0ck, that and resolving addresses, and maybe other little things...
[03:48] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, yeah true there are other parts to it
[03:49] <ioURT> you dont want to use untrusted libs
[03:49] <ioURT> or libs that do way to much
[03:50] <wafflej0ck> Sa[i]nT, yeah the academic point was to make a system that doesn't require you to trust others... in the case of C you have to write the compiler, I mean this is basically what RMS, Linus and friends did but just talking if you didn't trust that either, but really we all went on a far tangent, were talking PPAs originally
[03:51] <ioURT> the more the features the more the ways to make it misbehave
[03:51] <jeffrey_f> All languages result in machine code.  one line of C could result in 10 - 20 lines of asm
[03:51] <eaglesharklion> make it 1-20
[03:52] <Sa[i]nT> I'd love to see an OS written in an Very High Programming Language.
[03:52] <jeffrey_f> true, depends on the complexity too
[03:52] <numbertheorist> idk, its all over my head at this point, im just starting to teach myself python
[03:52] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, what c statement becomes 1 line?
[03:52] <function9x> Sa[i]nT: like C++?
[03:52] <eaglesharklion> a++; /* ah */
[03:53] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, don't think so that'd have to load the value of A, Add to A, and save A
[03:53] <Sa[i]nT> function9x, like perl, python, or Ocaml/Scala. Hell, maybe even Ruby.
[03:53] <eaglesharklion> a could be stored in a register already
[03:54] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, okay true I suppose, have been away from CS classes for too long
[03:54] <function9x> Sa[i]nT: perl python are scripting languages.
[03:54] <Sa[i]nT> Yeah.
[03:54] <nmatrix9> Anyone ever have an issue where when they tried to access a samba share through a linux app no matter what password or user account is used they always get permission denied, even when you know the password is correct?
[03:55] <bradley23228> I just hooked up dual monitors and want a new video card
[03:55] <nmatrix9> Or when you directly can access the share through a file explorer?
[03:55] <Sa[i]nT> This is about to be 2015. Things don't have to be in assembly anymore.
[03:55] <nmatrix9> Sa[i]nT, I want my hover board
[03:55] <wafflej0ck> Sa[i]nT, well most of us don't write it but it still needs to be there
[03:56] <ioURT> Sa[i]nT:evey language has to translate into ASM
[03:56] <Sa[i]nT> It should just be OS.run() by now.
[03:56] <Sa[i]nT> Yeah it does.
[03:56] <Sa[i]nT> In the end, it's all the same.
[03:57] <wafflej0ck> Sa[i]nT, really a lot of stuff like Qt/QML and all the other places JS type stuff is used it really is just about as easy as you say for high level programming
[03:57] <MrSavage> I have an issue with the flash player. When I fullscreen adobe flash player, shortcuts don't work
[03:57] <daftykins> nmatrix9: i'd read logs to see what's going on :P
[03:57] <MrSavage> which is interfering with the game i just bought, neoscavenger
[03:58] <nmatrix9> daftykins, which logs?  /Var/logs?
[03:59] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I am trying to use backintime to backup to a samba share on my NAS
[03:59] <eaglesharklion> on x86: INC r/m32 ... can work directly on a memory location (that's what the 'm' means)
[03:59] <daftykins> that's where they're kept, yep.
[03:59] <somsip> eaglesharklion: this doesn't appear to be anything to do with ubuntu support.
[04:00] <somsip> eaglesharklion: so can you take this converation private or to offtopic please
[04:00] <oolnig> Hello all.  Is there a way to allow certain packages to be pulled from the repos for higher distribution versions?
[04:00] <ioURT> can a neutron flip a ram bit?
[04:01] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: where is the folder located?
[04:01] <somsip> ioURT: also offtopic. Can we get back on support in here please
[04:01] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, numbertheorist eagles0513875  should take our conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:02] <numbertheorist> i have a question, someone suggested the ubuntu manual earlier for someone new to linux. would it work as well for lxle? as i understand it lxle is just a derivative of ubuntu
[04:02] <somsip> !manual | numbertheorist (it's here, and it contains general info - have a look for yourself)
[04:03] <numbertheorist> ok
[04:03] <shwaiil> Q: When I bought this computer I've installed Ubuntu and then windows. I use windows rarely, maybe 3 times a year. I have to uninstall it and reinstall it again, because this license is not mine. Will this screw my Ubuntu ?!
[04:03] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, smb://dlink-5535f5/upload
[04:04] <daftykins> shwaiil: perhaps you shouldn't break the law
[04:04] <MyLittlePonyBron> hi
[04:04] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: The physical folder, not the share alias
[04:04] <MyLittlePonyBron> Help meh :(
[04:05] <somsip> !ask | MyLittlePonyBron
[04:05] <MyLittlePonyBron> I'm new to ubuntu how do i get programs and do stuff!
[04:05] <numbertheorist> http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[04:05] <numbertheorist> lol i was just given it
[04:06] <somsip> numbertheorist: that's how this place works :)
[04:06] <shwaiil> daftykins, what do you mean ? the license was provided to me when working as a developer for someone's else's agency. I'm not working there anymore not that I'm using pirated software
[04:06] <daftykins> shwaiil: not legal then.
[04:07] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I don't think I understand the physical folder?  On my NAS?
[04:07] <shwaiil> daftykins, do you even know what you're talking about ?
[04:07] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, Volume_1/Public/upload
[04:07] <daftykins> shwaiil: depends if you've explained it properly or not :)
[04:09] <shwaiil> daftykins, there's nothing wrong about what I said. I'll install a new copy of windows with a new license because the current one is not mine and will expire soon. you assumed I'm using pirated OS.
[04:09] <shwaiil> and that wasn't even my question.
[04:09] <daftykins> well, that isn't permitted, so perhaps you should stop doing that
[04:10] <shwaiil> daftykins, are you nuts ? do you even know how companies run and get licenses for developers
[04:10] <shwaiil> what a douche
[04:10] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: (anyone correct me if I am wrong)....Permissions are top down.  Even if permissions on a subfolder is given, you may not be able to access it if the upper level folders do not allow it.
[04:11] <daftykins> shwaiil: there's no need to start calling me names just 'cause you can't explain yourself
[04:11] <daftykins> nobody needs to repeatedly reinstall Windows to do development work
[04:12] <wafflej0ck> shwaiil, don't resort to name calling you may want to consider installing in a virtual environment MS even provides images for testing sites in older versions of ie
[04:12] <shwaiil> daftykins, what ? I didn't said that, that's your assumption. I'm not working for this agency that provide me with the current license and I'm officially on holidays till I start a different role in a different company
[04:13] <daftykins> i'll tell you something, it only tends to be those doing something wrong that get so defensive so quickly.
[04:13] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: check the top volume permissions on down and ensure you have permissions down to the sub-folder(s)
[04:13] <shwaiil> daftykins, ok cool!
[04:13] <shiggitay> Anyone here have an HP TouchPad and have developed for it?
[04:13] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, yeah double checking
[04:14] <shiggitay> I have but but I don't dev.... but I"m trying to get novacomd loaded
[04:14] <daftykins> shiggitay: sorry, that's not ubuntu support really. HP pulled the SDK tools, but i think they can be found in some places still
[04:15] <daftykins> shiggitay: #cyanogenmod-touchpad exists btw
[04:15] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I think there may be a bug in Konqueror
[04:15] <shiggitay> daftykins, I know but I don't want to put android on the TP
[04:16] <shiggitay> I simply want to communicate with it over the commandline
[04:16] <daftykins> shiggitay: right but that channel might help with the dev tools :P
[04:16] <daftykins> shiggitay: certainly far more relevant than here is.
[04:16] <shiggitay> k
[04:17] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: you say you mounted the NAS share on your system?
[04:17] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: or is the NAS being accessed directly??
[04:18] <xoxo> hi does anyone know about grub2 errors?
[04:19] <xoxo> http://pastebin.com/hkbYGubD
[04:19] <xoxo> I'm getting for an error message at startup
[04:19] <xoxo> I tried reinstalling numerous times
[04:19] <xoxo> grub won't install
[04:22] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I created a NAS link in Konqueror  I tried to create a mount point yesterday but that did not work.  Now my previous user account is no longer working, just a min
[04:23] <MyLittlePonyBron> can i test file send on one of you here
[04:24] <nnioo> xoxo: check ur partition
[04:24] <daftykins> MyLittlePonyBron: no. ask in #freenode
[04:25] <bradley23228> I had Mint 17 and went back to 14.04 LTS
[04:25] <sivik> bradley23228, why didn't you like mint?
[04:25] <jeffrey_f> MyLittlePonyBron: Do not send files to me unsolicited.  Thanks!
[04:25] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, really weird, my previous password and access no longer works
[04:26] <bradley23228> mint was OK for a bit became unstable for me
[04:26] <sivik> then it was probably something you installed.  I have no issue with it
[04:26] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I think I'll force reboot the NAS
[04:26] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: isn't the NAS managed via web browser??
[04:26] <bradley23228> I like Mint just have Ubuntu now :D
[04:27] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, yes
[04:28] <bradley23228> my father has a PC i built on a frame with Mint and he was had WIN XP up until 6 months ago
[04:28] <daftykins> bradley23228: this isn't a chat channel, it's a place for support questions regarding ubuntu alone. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:29] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: I'd use a different browser then remove and reinstate the share.  Maybe something with the browser, as you said, a bug.....use firefox or crhome
[04:31] <shiggitay> OKay so here's a Ubuntu question: is there any word of baytrail support in 15.04?
[04:31] <xangua> !15.04 | shiggitay
[04:32] <shiggitay> xangua, thanks
[04:38] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I think when I installed backintime something was removed or uninstalled cause now non of my user accounts work
[04:39] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: Which user accounts?  On NAS or your system
[04:41] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, to access the NAS from my system
[04:43] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: Thats not good.  anything on NAS.....Suggest a factory reset on NAS (if you can without losing data)
[04:45] <xoxo> nnioo: I earased the partition and reinstalled
[04:51] <FSK405C> so why does grub install fail so bloody often on 12.04 LTS? :(
[05:17] <npssu47081> NP-Hardass: lol
[05:18] <npssu47081> that way you can't type your pw into chat
[05:18] <npssu47081> you're welcome :)
[05:20] <npssu47081> I don't see an S?
[05:21] <Ubnoobtu> Hey, ive got issues
[05:22] <npssu47081> oh
[05:22] <npssu47081> still got alot of learnings yet :D
[05:23] <npssu47081> (someone tries to log in as you)
[05:25] <npssu47081> Jeremy_Cutler last 2 days, building my own kernel, troubleshooting grub, dealing with uefi and bios woes, re-compiling about 4 or 5 different kernels to learn how it's done and getting stuck at every step lol
[05:25] <spectre_> Hello everybody
[05:29] <DJ__> hey all is anyone available to help me troubleshoot some directory permissions on my server? Would super-appreciate it
[05:32] <ioURT> i could but im expensive
[05:33] <phunyguy> ioURT: I am here also.
[05:33] <phunyguy> ioURT: tread lightly, please.
[05:33] <allmountainpro> anyone here know arch
[05:33] <phunyguy> allmountainpro: as in the distro?
[05:33] <allmountainpro> phunyguy: yes
[05:33] <phunyguy> allmountainpro: why are you asking about it here?
[05:34] <allmountainpro> phunyguy: beccause hardcore ubuntu people most likely know about hardcore arch :P
[05:34] <phunyguy> allmountainpro: this is not the place.  Please take it elsewhere/
[05:34] <allmountainpro> phunyguy: your very helpful and welcoming
[05:35] <ioURT> theres no shortage of ubuntu channels
[05:35] <phunyguy> there are also arch channels to ask questions in.  Go figure.
[05:35] <DJ__> My permissions for /var/www are all default. But all folders and files in thatdirectory are owned by my user and the group "webadmin" User and Group Permissions are RWX. I can upload changes to my files in that directory for a while and then I get an error about permission being denied.
[05:35] <bbbbu> Anyone want a babe?
[05:35]  * ioURT wonders how many channels with ubuntu in its name can one make
[05:35] <DJ__> My user is a member of the Webadmin group
[05:36] <phunyguy> bbbbu: no
[05:36] <bbbbu> Anyone?!
[05:36] <allmountainpro> bbbbu: lol
[05:37] <allmountainpro> guess since im running 4 os and because ubuntu isnt the one im having trouble with im not welcome here. could swap ubuntu out for fedora i supoose
[05:37] <allmountainpro> suppose
[05:37] <phunyguy> !ot | allmountainpro
[05:40] <allmountainpro> anyone here know the arch channel name
[05:40] <phunyguy> #archlinux
[05:40] <phunyguy> also
[05:40] <phunyguy> !alis
[05:41] <allmountainpro> jeez phunyguy for all the time you sspent being a troll you could have just helped me
[05:41] <ioURT> allmountainpro:you need to register to chat there
[05:42] <pl1x> lol what's happening here?
[05:42] <phunyguy> okay.
[05:43] <phunyguy> ioURT: enough with the lies please.  If you are not providing or receiving support on #ubuntu, please keep quiet.
[05:43] <phunyguy> that goes for everyone.
[05:43] <allmountainpro> pl1x: phunyguy seems to think trolling is necessary when someone asks for help
[05:44] <ioURT> lies
[05:44] <ioURT> you DO need to register to chat in #archlinux
[05:44] <phunyguy> *** Mode #archlinux +Cnt by asimov.freenode.net
[05:44] <phunyguy> yeah no.
[05:45] <phunyguy> ok back to support.
[05:47] <Donno> Is it possible to "tail -f" a log file
[05:47] <Donno> nvm
[05:47] <phunyguy> I stand corrected.  #archlinux q $~a asimov.freenode.net 1412227144
[05:47] <phunyguy> regardless... offtopic chat is offtopic.
[05:54] <jdzielny> hello everyone.  I am trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS on a system that has hardware RAID 1, and it detects the RAID but hangs at "Starting up the partitioner" every time.
[05:56] <jdzielny> The motherboard is an Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1 and it has Intel Rapid Storage Technology hardware RAID.  4 SATA drives configured as two RAID 1 setups
[05:57] <jdzielny> I've searched the Net for the past few hours and can't find anything
[05:57] <daftykins> jdzielny: that's not hardware RAID, likely won't work with ubuntu and should probably be abandoned
[05:57] <phunyguy> that is fakeraid.
[05:57] <phunyguy> !fakeraid
[05:58] <phunyguy> basically the RAID is driver-controlled.
[05:58] <neebs> mumble stop working, when i connect to a server. 14.04 64 bit
[06:00] <jdzielny> so basically, leave the drives all set as normal HDDs and use mdadm?
[06:01] <jdzielny> just install to (what I'll call for discussion) Drive 0, then afterward use mdadm to combine Drive 0 and Drive 1 into a RAID 1, then do the same with Drives 2/3?
[06:03] <jdzielny> following the directions from the page you linked to phunyguy
[06:03] <jdzielny> ?
[06:04] <phunyguy> yes
[06:04] <phunyguy> sorry
[06:04] <phunyguy> I have to go, cya
[06:06] <squigle> nice working netflix now :)
[06:06] <jdzielny> phunyguy, before you go, one quick question: should the SATA mode selection for the mobo be set to RAID or AHCI if I'm doing software RAID using mdadm?
[06:07] <grilled-chese> Just did a clean install of 14.04 and am attempting to restore my nfs export backup, now when my autofs client mounts the directory on a different box all the folders appear to be owned by root
[06:08] <grilled-chese> jdzielny: ahci
[06:08] <jdzielny> grilled-chese, thanks
[06:08] <pixelkat> what
[06:09] <grilled-chese> both my client & server have the same uid/gids
[06:09] <grilled-chese> in the past, autofs just understood the folder permissions and associated them to the correct user
[06:10] <grilled-chese> I can touch a test file in the nfs root
[06:10] <grilled-chese> from the client
[06:11] <grilled-chese>  and that has the right uid/gid associated
[06:11] <grilled-chese> but, I'm confused how it's somehow different now
[06:11] <lickalott> hey all.  if I had options to download a package and they were OpenBSD, FreeBSD or Linux, which would I want for ubuntu?
[06:11] <grilled-chese> linux
[06:11] <grilled-chese> preferably anything ending in .deb
[06:11] <lickalott> thats what I thought.  just wanted to make sure.
[06:11] <lickalott> thanks grilled-chese!
[06:21] <phix> grilled-chese with ham, tomatoe and hot english mustard?
[06:30] <smikims> I've got a weird issue with workspaces: I have it set to dynamic and it won't let me create a new one. When I hit ctrl+alt+down I see the switcher thing but there's only one there and it doesn't switch.
[06:30] <smikims> And when I set it to static with 4, they all show my one workspace--just 4 pictures of it in the overview
[06:30] <smikims> I'm using nvidia's proprietary drivers if that makes a difference (dunno)
[06:36] <smikims> anyone?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:37] <MagePsycho> are you guys using dotfiles in git?
[06:44] <dts|pokeball> MagePsycho, dot files?
[06:45] <MagePsycho> https://github.com/michaeljsmalley/dotfiles
[06:45] <MagePsycho> https://dotfiles.github.io/
[06:55] <QueerTopHat> Hi
[06:56] <QueerTopHat> ok,why is no one here talking T_T
[06:57] <QueerTopHat> ._. Hello?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> QueerTopHat: because this is an ubuntu support chat, only to ask questions
[06:57] <QueerTopHat> oh
[06:57] <QueerTopHat> ok
[06:58] <smikims> speaking of which, does anyone have any idea on my GNOME workspaces problem? (can't make new ones)
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> smikims: maybe the #gnome guys can also help you?
[06:59] <smikims> lotuspsychje: no response
[06:59] <smikims> tried there first
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> smikims: oh ok :p
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> smikims: anything usefull in your syslog?
[07:00] <smikims> lotuspsychje: where exactly would I be looking?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> smikims: maybe /var/log/syslog or dmesg
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> smikims: are you on classic or gnome shell?
[07:01] <smikims> lotuspsychje: nothing in dmesg
[07:01] <smikims> lotuspsychje: gnome shell
[07:03] <dts|pokeball> hey guys... im trying to get hhvm to work with apache on an ubuntu 14.04 vps, and followed this guide: https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/wiki/fastcgi but it still isnt working. help
[07:03] <smikims> lotuspsychje: I'm seeing "vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device" in syslog but not sure if that's related
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-tweak-tool | smikims try this mate
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !git | dts|pokeball
[07:05] <dts|pokeball> lotuspsychje, my question has nothing to do with git...
[07:05] <dts|pokeball> other than the guide is hosted on there
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> smikims: or this extension: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> dts|pokeball: just trying to help mate
[07:05] <smikims> lotuspsychje: the tweak tool doesn't help--setting it to static just shows the same workspace in all spaces
[07:06] <dts|pokeball> appareciate it anyways lotuspsychje :)
[07:06] <sheer> hello senpais
[07:06] <smikims> it's a bug somewhere, not sure if it's GNOME or the packaging or my drivers or what
[07:06] <sheer> i'm trying to get connectable with torrenting
[07:06] <sheer> could anyone PLS Help
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !details | sheer
[07:07] <sheer> lotuspsychje: i've just installed ubuntu recently and I need a static IP in order to seed my torrents!
[07:08] <smikims> sheer: why do you need a static IP?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> sheer: thats a question for the ##networking guys mate
[07:08] <sheer> in order to become "connectable" with torrenting
[07:08] <sheer> i'll try there, thanks lotus
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> dts|pokeball: maybe the #httpd guys might know this?
[07:09] <dts|pokeball> lotuspsychje, ty
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> sheer: you could also try qbittorent/create torrent
[07:09] <sheer> lotuspsychje: that's not it
[07:09] <smikims> sheer: what exactly is your problem? Why do you need a static IP?
[07:10] <sheer> smikims: i'm following this guide, but i'm stuck since i'm using linux not windows
[07:10] <dts|pokeball> who got banned?
[07:10] <sheer> (or mac) https://www.myanonamouse.net/guides/
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> dts|pokeball: its an unban
[07:11] <dts|pokeball> ah
[07:11] <mwsb> dts|pokeball: ubottu removed a timed ban.
[07:11] <sheer> and ummm if you can't get to that link, smikims, "If your computer / router / torrent client does not automatically  configure itself so that you are connectable, there are three basic  things that need to happen in order for you to become connectable:"
[07:11] <dts|pokeball> as you can tel, im quite tired
[07:11] <smikims> sheer: that site requires a login
[07:12] <sheer> smikims: i'm simply trying to get myself seeding
[07:12] <smikims> sheer: OK, so what exactly is going wrong?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> sheer: wich program are you trying?
[07:13] <sheer> transmission, lotus
[07:13] <sheer> smikims: i'm "not connectable"
[07:13] <smikims> sheer: and transmission is telling you that? Is that the exact message?
[07:14] <sheer> can't even connect to tracker
[07:14] <sheer> so it's not even downloading what i want to reseed
[07:14] <sheer> it downloaded (without seeding) when i had windows
[07:14] <sheer> i downloaded the torrent files but now i can't download
[07:15] <sheer> can't connect to the tracker, it says
[07:15] <smikims> sheer: OK, so that sounds like it's beyond you not being connectable if you can't even reach the tracker
[07:15] <nbusrone> any nvidia user here ? how do I set the brightness for nvidia ? even I set it at the nvidia config setting , it get reset on every reboot
[07:15] <smikims> sheer: have you tried a different torrent/tracker?
[07:16] <sheer> different tracker is NP
[07:17] <smikims> sheer: have you checked your router/firewall settings?
[07:17] <sheer> smikims: don't know how to
[07:17] <sheer> i don't think i have a firewall
[07:17] <sheer> unless it comes with ubuntu
[07:18] <St1gma> $ iptables -L --line-numbers
[07:18] <smikims> sheer: ubuntu shouldn't be blocking anything, I was torrenting something a few hours ago on a new install
[07:18] <smikims> sheer: check your router settings or maybe it's your ISP
[07:18] <smikims> or maybe the tracker's down, idk
[07:18] <smikims> but none of that has to do with you having a static IP
[07:19] <sheer> smikims: i can torrent
[07:19] <sheer> just not from the private tracker
[07:19] <smikims> sheer: oh ok
[07:19] <nbusrone> it even reset my brightness setting everytime I play a youtube video
[07:19] <smikims> sheer: well I'm no bittorrent expert, but is there some kind of authentication for private trackers? Could you be failing that?
[07:21] <St1gma> sheer: private trackers are invite only as far as I know, hence "private".
[07:21] <sheer> St1gma: yes, i have an account and all that
[07:22] <St1gma> sheer: then you want to check with them, doesn't quite seem like a problem with your OS.
[07:22] <sheer> If your computer / router / torrent client does not automatically  configure itself so that you are connectable, there are three basic  things that need to happen in order for you to become connectable:
[07:22] <sheer> The computer running your torrent client (uTorrent, Vuze, etc.) needs to have a static IP.
[07:24] <MagePsycho> can we rename the somebash.sh to somebash and move to /usr/bin folder and run globally?
[07:24] <St1gma> if you set the shebang
[07:24] <St1gma> MagePsycho, ^^
[07:24] <St1gma> MagePsycho, then chmod +x <file>
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> sheer: try the #transmission channel also
[07:25] <sheer> thank you lotus
[07:25] <MagePsycho> i know that .. ./<file.sh>
[07:25] <smikims> sheer: I don't know where they got that from--I've always seeded without a static IP
[07:26] <sheer> i got that from the site and i believe i've seen it being stated before in revolutionTT's private tracker
[07:26] <St1gma> MagePsycho, at the start of your shell file make sure you have the shebang well stated #!/bin/bash or whatever shell you are using. Then $ mv file.sh /usr/bin/file; sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/file
[07:26] <smikims> sheer: I don't think there's any way for them to tell if you have a static IP or not
[07:27] <smikims> sheer: unless you can only register one IP address with them or something like that
[07:27] <MagePsycho> St1gma: seems it works
[07:27] <smikims> although that would be stupid
[07:27] <MagePsycho> St1gma: thanks
[07:27] <nbusrone> no nvidia user here ?
[07:27] <St1gma> MagePsycho, np man
[07:27] <sheer> smikims: why would that be stupid?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> !patience | nbusrone
[07:27] <sheer> because it's the normal way afaik
[07:27] <smikims> sheer: it would be an arbitrary restriction that has no point
[07:28] <MagePsycho> St1gma: where yo guys put the tools sh file? in user/local/bin or home/bin folder?
[07:28] <smikims> and I'm just spitballing here, they probably don't do that
[07:29] <St1gma> MagePsycho, I normally create a /usr/local/scripts directory where I still all my custom stuff then I symlink to /usr/bin
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: morning
[07:29] <St1gma> MagePsycho, but I don't know if there's any type of convention on that
[07:29] <MagePsycho> St1gma: not bad idea, thanks man
[07:29] <smikims> St1gma: the convention is /usr/local/bin
[07:30] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : ok , hope someone can figure it out
[07:30] <MagePsycho> St1gma: symlink should work fine so that you can have central repository
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: you have the right driver active?
[07:30] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone know how I can see if any of my cairo-related libraries were installed from a ppa?
[07:30] <St1gma> MagePsycho, use what smikims said. That's what I do not /usr/bin
[07:30] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : yep
[07:30] <St1gma> smikims, thanks for the correction
[07:31] <smikims> St1gma: and there should be no symlinks required; /usr/local/bin should already be in your path
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: check your /var/log/syslog or demsg for brightness issues
[07:31] <St1gma> smikims, I know. I like to keep my stuff separate then symlink into the path. That way I know exactly what is custom that I made and what came with the OS. Just easier to maintain.
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: or do a tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around a bit, to see errors in realtime
[07:32] <smikims> St1gma: Well no package I know of puts stuff in /usr/local, that's kind of the point of /usr/local
[07:32] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : ok , but how do I add a brightness setting at xorg ?
[07:33] <smikims> so you can rely on all of that being your stuff
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: first we have to investigate whats wrong exactly
[07:34] <smikims> I take that back; python puts stuff in /usr/local/lib, but I think that's just pip stuff? The directories will be empty unless you install something
[07:35] <St1gma> smikims, that's why I said that what I do serves my purpose only. In my case I run everything in git so I don't want to have that /usr/local/bin that would be counter productive. That is the reason why I symlink. I should have explained myself better the first time I guess. Besides there are some applications that do put things in /usr/local so I just don't want it mixed. Personal hygiene.
[07:36] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : it's like a driver instead , after setting the contrast and brightness at nvidia x sever setting , everytime I restart it reset , I need to start nvidia x server to take affect again.
[07:36] <smikims> St1gma: Ah OK that makes sense
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled/updates enabled?
[07:37] <smikims> St1gma: yeah apparently there are things that make directories there but they'll be empty until you do something to fill them; it's still a "your stuff" place
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: ubuntu version?
[07:37] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : yep , 14.04
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> kk
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: there must be an error soemwhere, syslog,dmesg or xorg logs
[07:40] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : ok , i try and find out which causes the error
[07:41] <phil__> lol whoops
[07:44] <St1gma> Shirakawasuna: You can look at /var/log/apt/history.log or term.log /var/log/dpkg.log should also provide some insights, but I don't know if they'll indicate if a package came from any specific repo/ppa.
[07:44] <Shirakawasuna> St1gma: okay, thanks for the info!
[07:45] <Shirakawasuna> getting a segfault when trying to use pygtk that involves cairo
[07:52] <MagePsycho> i am always confused about the parameters, for key value pairs how can i pass iin bash script
[07:52] <MagePsycho> for example: somebashscript.sh key1=value1 key2=value2
[07:55] <smikims> MagePsycho: those will be arguments and you'll have to parse them yourself
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> u sure
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> u guys want debian
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> i show u
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> debian
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> http://www.mepis.org/
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> done
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> this debian version of 0x71 (xc) Our
[07:57] <cfhowlett> whitehat-hacker, no spam please.
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> forsake ubuntu
[07:57] <smikims> MagePsycho: for example in your example key1=value1 will be in $1 (first argument) in your script
[07:57] <MagePsycho> smikims: what if i use - - key1=value1 - -key2=value2
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> no spam
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> We just laugh to ubuntu
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> is backdoored
[07:57] <Benjaminhusky> yes,what you are doing is spam
[07:57] <smikims> MagePsycho: anything after the command name without whitespace in it will be a separate argument
[07:57] <cfhowlett> whitehat-hacker, please go away
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> u trust this OS
[07:57] <smikims> after that how you parse it is up to you
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !fud | whitehat-hacker
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> get mepis.org
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !ops | whitehat-hacker FUD spam
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> freenode
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> is taken over by 0x71 (xc) Our
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> which is skraito
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> soon
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> which is me
[07:58] <Flannel> whitehat-hacker: Please take it elsewhere, thanks.
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> who the fuck ure all
[07:59] <MagePsycho> smikims: how you suggest to pass arguments? an easier approach, new to ubuntu
[07:59]  * cfhowlett thinks "well, that escalated quickly ..."
[07:59] <smikims> MagePsycho: you're talking about writing your own script, right, not using someone else's?
[07:59] <whitehat-hacker> :)
[08:00] <whitehat-hacker> ubuntu have 1700 backdoor stupid
[08:05] <smikims> MagePsycho:
[08:05] <smikims> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/192249/how-do-i-parse-command-line-arguments-in-bash
[08:12] <MagePsycho> smikims: that should help… gonna try
[08:23] <Rory> Is it possible to prevent a graphical dialogue asking for my passphrase when I use "gpg -d" from the terminal? Can I enter my password in the terminal window? I'm reasonably sure I have used a Linux distro at some point which had this latter behaviour
[08:23] <Rory> To be clear, I still want to be prompted for a passphrase, but I want the prompt to be in the same terminal I run "gpg -d" from, and not pop up in some dialogue box
[08:42] <BLUG_Fred>  Hi! I upgraded my Ubuntu LTS version from 10.04 to 14.04 and now it seems I can get only one cgi-bin working. The others give me 403. Anybody familiar with the problem?
[08:45] <jimmyd> Im getting a boot failed error trying to boot off the usb stick i made bootable something with a 32 and then a comand line what do i type in to try to fix the problem
[08:46] <Rory> jimmyd: What did you use to create the bootable USB? There are instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[08:46] <Rory> Or for Windows, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[08:47] <jimmyd> i used unet bootin Rory
[08:47] <cfhowlett> jimmyd, did you 1. verify the .iso   and 2. verify the USB?
[08:47] <Rory> jimmyd: I've had all sorts of problems with unetbootin. My personal favourite program for doing this sort of thing on Windows is LinuxLiveUSB http://www.linuxliveusb.com
[08:48] <Rory> jimmyd: That will also verify the iso for you
[08:48] <cfhowlett> strangely enough, the product created by unetbootin and ubuntu startup disk creator are quite different
[08:48] <jimmyd> no not really no but I am running a xubuntu that i created the same way
[08:48] <cfhowlett> jimmyd, "not really" = I didn't do my due diligence.  sloppy guesses >>> sloppy outcomes
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | jimmyd
[08:49] <White_Cat> I see /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3 when I run /dev/sd*
[08:49] <White_Cat> does that mean I have one drive with 3 partitions?
[08:49] <Rory> jimmyd: It's one of two things. (1) the .iso file you have is incorrect in some way. (2) the .iso file was not written to the USB flash drive correctly.
[08:49] <Rory> White_Cat: Yes
[08:49] <White_Cat> I have a second drive inserted to the sata slot
[08:49] <White_Cat> I wonder why it isnt detected
[08:50] <cfhowlett> jimmyd, +1 rory.  thus my suggestion to md5sum both
[08:50] <Rory> White_Cat: Is it detected in the BIOS?
[08:50] <White_Cat> bios is so convoluted :/ possibly not though
[08:50] <White_Cat> I'll try to verify
[08:50] <Rory> White_Cat: Best to rule that out first, in order to narrow it down to being a problem with Ubuntu
[08:50] <White_Cat> certainly
[08:50] <Rory> White_Cat: Rather than, say, a problem with the drive, motherboard, cable etc
[08:50] <jimmyd> ok lots of information to go on thanks guys
[08:50] <White_Cat> I just wanted to make sure what I am interpreting was correct
[08:51] <White_Cat> there is no cable in this case
[08:51] <Rory> White_Cat: You can use a tool like "gparted" to view/edit partiions graphically if you prefer
[08:52] <jimmyd> again can i check this stuff with a command from the prompt on the failed boot comand line
[08:52] <cfhowlett> jimmyd, read the md5sum wiki I sent you for guidance.
[08:54] <White_Cat> Rory I dont think gparted is compatible with ubuntu server
[08:54] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, not "incompatible" just ... no gui so no gparted.
[08:54] <jimmyd> ok
[08:54] <White_Cat> yeah
[08:54] <Rory> White_Cat: OK, didn't realise. Was just in case you were unaware
[08:55] <White_Cat> is there a console version that does something similar?
[08:55] <White_Cat> wouldnt be a real gui naturally
[08:55] <reggie-man> My DVD doesn't mount when I insert it, and when I try to manually mount it I get "mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[08:56] <Rory> White_Cat: Not the ncurses gui you're imagining. There are command-line tools to manage partitions though, obviously
[08:56] <White_Cat> well yes
[08:56] <White_Cat> so its a text bar instead of a window
[08:56] <White_Cat> something like that
[08:57] <White_Cat> its fine if it displays the information just in text too
[08:57] <White_Cat> I guess what I am trying to as is, what is a gparted-like program for ubuntu server
[08:57] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, fdisk is CLI and has the same functionality
[08:57] <somsip> !info parted | White_Cat (the g is for gui)
[08:58] <White_Cat> bah
[08:58] <White_Cat> g in gparted is gui isnt it?
[08:58] <somsip> White_Cat: gparted = gui parted. Parted = cli parted.
[09:01] <White_Cat> hmm
[09:01] <White_Cat> how can I check if my installation is UEFI compatible?
[09:02] <somsip> !uefi | White_Cat (other than what it says on here, no idea myself)
[09:02] <jimmyd> just so you know im not using windows
[09:02] <White_Cat> I am not either
[09:03] <White_Cat> server takes forever to boot with legacy method
[09:04] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[09:05] <White_Cat> askubuntu.com/questions/91484/how-to-boot-ubuntu-from-efi-uefi
[09:05] <White_Cat> I am unsure how to determine if UEFI is 32 or 64 bit
[09:05] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, trigger the bios ... uefi options should be displayed if available.
[09:05] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, never seen a 32 bit uefi ...
[09:05] <White_Cat> okay
[09:05] <White_Cat> me neither
[09:06] <Shirakawasuna> I have issues with a cinnamon applet segfault - not supported, so I'm not asking how to fix that. I just tested a fresh install in virtualbox and I don't get the problem (a segmentation fault). Any ideas on how to troubleshoot that, i.e., restore to a more 'default' installation state? I know that it's system files, as I've made a new user and the segmentation fault still occurs.
[09:06] <Shirakawasuna> I'm guessing I have some cruft libraries left over, but I have no idea which ones.
[09:06] <lolek> guys, I'm trying to build my own kernel, I've made new flavour and I'm stuck with this: http://www.pasteall.org/55906 #ubuntu-kernel is sleeping probably so if anyone had any idea about this, that would be great
[09:08] <White_Cat> [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"  gives legacy boot on HDD
[09:09] <abhinav> hello
[09:09] <abhinav> i'm new to irc
[09:09] <cfhowlett> abhinav, ask your ubuntu questions
[09:09] <abhinav> i want to start developing
[09:09] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, not sure of the command, but I believe that output shows current configuration ... NOT efi capable yes/no
[09:09] <cfhowlett> abhinav, OK ... and?
[09:10] <abhinav> where do i start
[09:10] <cfhowlett> abhinav, learn python
[09:10] <somsip> !contrubuting | abhinav
[09:10] <abhinav> i know a lot of java
[09:10] <somsip> !contributing | abhinav
[09:10] <abhinav> a little bit of python
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !contribute | abhinav
[09:10] <somsip> cfhowlett: thank you :)
[09:11] <cfhowlett> somsip, happy2help!
[09:11] <abhinav> is python more useful than java?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> abhinav, download.  read.  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ubuntu-development-special-edition/
[09:12] <abhinav> thank you
[09:13] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:13] <cfhowlett> abhinav, happy2help!
[09:13] <White_Cat> are these commands rational?
[09:17] <ravi_> Hello there !! can't open .pl file in browser
[09:17] <cfhowlett> ravi_, perl file?
[09:17] <ravi_> yes
[09:18] <cfhowlett> ravi_, works perfectly for me in gedit.  what does cat /etc/issue say?
[09:19] <Turingi> what paint program (similar to paint.net) do people recommend for use with ubuntu, preferably gnome-based
[09:19] <jasonjckn> White_Cat, I think you need GPT disk format for UEFI mode
[09:19] <somsip> !info gpaint | Turingi (maybe)
[09:19] <cfhowlett> Turingi, krita is well documented and quite popular as is GIMP
[09:19] <ravi_> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Turingi, mypaint
[09:20] <cfhowlett> ravi_, so it won't open in FILE browser or web browser?
[09:21] <ravi_> it's asking to download while m trying to access localhost/otrs/installer.pl
[09:21] <cfhowlett> ravi_, so ... web?
[09:21] <Turingi> I tried pinta, but it lacks beziers or the ability to resize selections
[09:22] <ravi_> Firefos
[09:22] <ravi_> forefox
[09:22] <ravi_> sry firefox
[09:22] <cfhowlett> ravi_, firefox doesn't read perl ... without help. there may be a plugin.
[09:22] <ravi_> ok, which plugin shuld i install ?
[09:22] <Turingi> cfhowlett: krita is nice enough though it requires the full kde stack and is currently the only app on my system that would require that
[09:23] <cfhowlett> ravi_, quick search:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cpan/
[09:24] <cfhowlett> Turingi, wait what?  full kde stack?
[09:24] <Turingi> cfhowlett: all the kde-dependencies, a few hundred MB
[09:24] <Turingi> besides krita itself
[09:24] <ravi_> Thaks, let me chk out
[09:25] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone here know how to reinstall / identify all dependencies of a given package?
[09:25] <Shirakawasuna> I'm afraid I have cruft built up somewhere and I want to remove as many non-totally-essential packages in the dependency tree, delete any extra files, and then reinstall them
[09:27] <ravi_> Sorry, you need a Mozilla-based browser (such as Firefox) to install a search plugin.
[09:27] <cfhowlett> ravi_, ask #perl about this
[09:28] <ravi_> ok, thanks !!
[09:28] <Turingi> Shirakawasuna: does 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y' tell you there are packages you can safely remove?
[09:28] <Shirakawasuna> Turingi: nope
[09:35] <Turingi> Shrirakawasuna: afaik, you can remove apps one by one with apt-get, then do autoremove
[09:36] <Turingi> Shrirakawasuna: for instance, ubuntu software center has a list of 'installed' stuff
[09:36] <cfhowlett> Shirakawasuna, apt-get -s autoremove          to test
[09:37] <Shirakawasuna> Turingi: yeah, I'm currently just removing things I don't care about that don'e come in the default 14.04.1 LTS release
[09:38] <Shirakawasuna> using apt-get autoremove --purge
[09:38] <Shirakawasuna> gonna hope that fixes it
[09:39] <Shirakawasuna> note: just packages that have no reverse dependencies
[09:43] <Guest62552> ok i found my way into the usb stick by typing unetbootindefault after cheking sum and googleing the error message
[09:43] <Guest62552> jimmyd
[09:44] <karl__> Hi, can anyone help please, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 (live cd) trying to install boot-repair with the following commands "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)" but I'm getting the error message "E: Couldn't find package boot-repair" :(
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Guest62552, iso checked?  usb checked?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> karl__, is this a server?
[09:45] <karl__> cfhowlett: it's a desktop PC
[09:45] <Guest62552> yes
[09:45] <cfhowlett> karl__, 10.04 is LONG since end of life.  upgrade to a supported version
[09:45] <Guest62552> i was jimmyd
[09:45] <argoneus> hello
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Guest62552, then the issue is not the boot media.
[09:46] <argoneus> I have a ssh key in the .ssh folder on a machine, and I want to move this key to another machine under another account because the old machine is about to be killed
[09:46] <argoneus> is it enough to just copypaste it or what should I do?
[09:46] <Guest62552> it was a problem with unetbootin
[09:46] <karl__> cfhowlett: I have no other live CD, I just need to install boot-repair to recover my partitions windows 7 rudely overwrote my MBR
[09:46] <MasterOfDisaster> argoneus: copy the id_* files.
[09:47] <Guest62552> i found the answer on the unetbootin website duh
[09:47] <cfhowlett> karl__, you do not need boot repair.  install grub then.  boot ubuntu.  then do a dist-upgrade for grub 2
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !grub | karl__
[09:47] <sgo11> hi, I encrypted my home directory and installed samba server. Now, my home directory is constantly unmounted automatically. I think this is because of samba server. how can I prevent this unmount to happen?! this is very annoyed!! "THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA"
[09:47] <DJones> karl__: boot-repair for Lucid doesn't exost in that ppa, probably deleted when 10.04 went end of life
[09:47] <karl__> cfhowlett: ok thank you :) gonna try that now
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !server | sgo11, might want to ask the server channel
[09:48] <sgo11> unmount happens again just now. home directory is unmounted every minute.
[09:48] <sgo11> cfhowlett, this is not a server question.
[09:48] <sgo11> cfhowlett, no server will encrypt home directory.
[09:49] <cfhowlett> sgo11, OK, I misunderestimated
[09:49] <sgo11> cfhowlett, this is about ecryptfs-mount. ok. thanks.
[09:49] <MasterOfDisaster> sgo11: anything helpful in /var/log/*? Share them via pastebin.
[09:49] <sgo11> MasterOfDisaster, let me check log file.
[09:51] <argoneus> thanks MasterOfDisaster
[09:52] <sgo11> MasterOfDisaster, I don't find anything useful in /var/log. which file should I look particularly?
[09:53] <sgo11> after the automatic unmount, I will have two files in home directory only: Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and README.txt.
[09:54] <sgo11> I can remount my home directory with command "ecryptfs-mount-private". but that doesn't really help much. because my home directory will be umounted quickly after the manual mount.
[09:54] <supernil> How can I change fonts in ubuntu 14.10, when there is no GUI installed?
[09:54] <sgo11> this happens after I enable samba share server and share a directory within my home directory.
[09:55] <Rory> This NTP vulnerability, are we required to update our NTP clients? Or does it only affect NTP servers which are listening on the Internet?
[10:03] <sgo11> by googling, I think umount.ecryptfs_private is called somehow. but I still can not find a way to stop it.
[10:10] <wafflej0ck> Rory, it appears there are some vulnerabilities patched in ntp 4.2.8 the latest from the trusty repos appears to be 4.2.6 so doesn't look like they've been merged in yet
[10:11] <verwilst> 4.2.6p5 have the fixes that are in 4.2.8
[10:11] <wafflej0ck> ah well okay thankx verwilst
[10:13] <wafflej0ck> ah yeah looks like I got that the 22nd
[10:13] <wafflej0ck> so took 4 days from release, pretty snappy
[10:13] <Rory> OK but that doesn't answer my question
[10:13] <Rory> are we required to update our NTP clients? Or does it only affect NTP servers which are listening on the Internet?
[10:13] <Rory> (when the patch is released)
[10:14] <wafflej0ck> Rory, if you have ntpd installed then I imagine you would want to update it
[10:14] <Rory> Eventually, yes. I'm just trying to work out the level of urgency
[10:14] <Rory> Otherwise we'll just update it as a normal part of our next release, rather than some emergency hotfix
[10:17] <wafflej0ck> Rory, dunno what to tell ya just googled about it a bit http://www.forbes.com/sites/amitchowdhry/2014/12/26/why-apple-pushed-its-first-automatic-mac-os-x-security-update-this-week/ <-- given this info I would probably go with updating it sooner rather than later but you know rollback plan and all that if this is for enterprise stuff (I don't need to be telling anyone this I'm sure though)
[10:18]  * cfhowlett just sensed a disturbance in the force ...
[10:18] <kostkon> wafflej0ck, is this the one? http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2449-1/
[10:19] <wafflej0ck> kostkon, yeah appears to be the same
[10:19] <wafflej0ck> kostkon, same CVE numbers
[10:26] <Lucax>  Hello, is there a good unix GUI where I can easily optimize picture alt tags?  title tags and alt tags
[10:27] <cfhowlett> Lucax, unix?  ubuntu is linux.  and GUI doesn't edit anything = graphic user interface.
[10:28] <abhinav> can someone give any advice on GSOC 2015?
[10:28] <Lucax> forgive my noobiness language. what i meant is, is there a simple picture program in ubuntu where I can click properties and change the title and alt tags for my seo?
[10:28] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, yeah the question really doesn't make a ton of sense, can you restate... typically alt "tags" and "title" tags are in HTML markup not in the image itself
[10:28] <explosive> !info phatch | Lucax
[10:28] <cfhowlett> Lucax, pretty sure you might mean "metadata" and exif .
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Lucax, shotwell has flag editing as well
[10:30] <Lucax>  I just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi95C0pnwwU and in the video he use a windows program, but I want to do the same in Ubuntu
[10:31] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, the video is misguiding to some degree
[10:32] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, alt tags are in the HTML on a site like <img src="image.png" alt="Some nice picture"/> and can easily be parsed by search engines and is used by screen readers for accessibility
[10:33] <Lucax> ok, thanks for clarifying. actually what I am doing is simply optimizing my picture titles manually and replacing the default camera title like CN001 to descriptive titles like "blue horse gone wild"
[10:33] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, this is showing how to alter EXIF or photo metadata which typically isn't part of the SEO/indexing process (Google says they "reserve the right" to use this info but don't explicitly admit to it being used, whereas the actual alt="" property in HTML will be read by any search engine
[10:33] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, ah okay so you're just really interested in the titles/tagging for sorting purposes
[10:34] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, you may want to try shotwell
[10:34] <wafflej0ck> oh yeah cfhowlett already suggested it too, it's good for photo organizing
[10:34] <Lucax> First and foremost I just want the pictures to have targeted and relevant titles.
[10:35] <Lucax> so then I think what I am doing is good enough (changing the titles) BUT then I read about Alt tags and got into a new world
[10:36] <cfhowlett> Lucax, take a peek at darktable as well for meta-data editing
[10:37] <Lucax> is darktable a program?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !info darktable | Lucax,
[10:38] <Lucax> thanks
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Lucax, I suggest you grab all your photo toys with: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-photography
[10:40] <Lucax> ok thanks
[10:46] <abhinav> hey...can someone give any advice on GSOC 2015?
[10:47] <k1l_> abhinav: is this ubuntu support related? or do you want to ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[10:47] <abhinav> its not ubuntu speific
[10:48] <k1l_> so this is offtopic in here. please use the offtopic channel then
[10:48] <abhinav> ok thanx :D
[10:54] <divansantana> after loading linux+uefi+grub2, I can't get into the uefi boot screen. Any ideas?
[10:56] <reggie-man> My DVD won't mount.
[10:57] <Guest2041> nick
[10:57] <cfhowlett> reggie-man, please don't cross post in channels
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> !dvd | reggie-man
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !nick | Guest2041,
[10:59] <reggie-man> Oh, sorry cfhowlett. It's just that I often stick to the one channel and am often told to come here and ask because there are more people. I already have these restricted extras and stuff installed. It's just not mounting.
[11:00] <cfhowlett> reggie-man, encrypted dvd??
[11:00] <reggie-man> I have to navigate to /dev/sr0 to access it, but it's not in mounted in /media or anything.
[11:00] <k1l_> !libdvdcss
[11:01] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/<something>
[11:05] <reggie-man> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9639519/
[11:05] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: ^
[11:05] <k1l_> reggie-man: the error is self explaining
[11:06] <reggie-man> Well I don't understand. Is it supposed to exist?
[11:06] <k1l_> you cant mount to folders that dont exist.
[11:07] <reggie-man> So do I create a folder then, k1l_?
[11:07] <k1l_> yes
[11:07] <Sh3r1ff> !mount | reggie-man
[11:08] <cfhowlett> reggie-man, http://www.ehow.com/how_5128363_mount-dvd-linux.html
[11:08] <Zeedox> k1l_: Well, Ubuntu creates mounts for new devices automatically, so it's a bit confusing.
[11:09] <k1l_> Zeedox: that is gvfs doing it.
[11:09] <k1l_> and yes, not doing it the automatic way means doing manual work.
[11:10] <jimmyd> so is there a reason not to let the software do it
[11:10] <reggie-man> Wait a second. My problem here is that it's not automatically mounting and showing up in my file manager like it was before. I don't want to have to manually mount it each time.
[11:11] <jimmyd> can you put it in the startup menue?
[11:13] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[11:13] <Sh3r1ff> check the section automounting
[11:15] <reggie-man> It refers to a package I don't have. I don't understand, the mounting was working before. Isn't there some way to find out what happened and revert it? I don't see why I should have to install additional packages to fix this.
[11:16] <reggie-man> I guess I'll try it anyway, though. I can always remove the package.
[11:17] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: the link i provided to you doesn't say anything about installing extra packages
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> reggie-man: investigate why automounting doesnt work anymore, check your logs
[11:19] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: It told me to use a command for a package I didn't have, so I had to install it. Also, the automount options are set to true.
[11:19] <reggie-man> lotuspsychje: They would be so long. I wouldn't know where to start.
[11:20] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: dconf-editor should be installed by default
[11:20] <reggie-man> I'm on Xubuntu, so maybe that's why it wasn't.
[11:20] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: ^
[11:21] <Rory> Is it possible to prevent a graphical dialogue asking for my passphrase when I use "gpg -d" from the terminal? Can I enter my password in the terminal window? I'm reasonably sure I have used a Linux distro at some point which had this latter behaviour
[11:21] <Rory> To be clear, I still want to be prompted for a passphrase, but I want the prompt to be in the same terminal I run "gpg -d" from, and not pop up in some dialogue box
[11:22] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: even on xubuntu ;)
[11:22] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: check your settings for removable drives and media
[11:22] <Sh3r1ff> it is under the hardware section
[11:23] <reggie-man> Why wasn't it for me then Sh3r1ff? Yes, they are set to automount.
[11:24] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: does it happen with every disc you insert? (try different types: data, video, audio, ...)
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> reggie-man: type dmesg in terminal, see what errors there are
[11:25] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: Well there is a disc I inserted before that isn't mounting anymore. I'll try a few others.
[11:28] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: pastebin the content of your /etc/fstab
[11:28] <reggie-man> lotuspsychje: There are a few lines like this "CPU1: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 621188)"
[11:29] <Zeedox> What is a recommended way to share big(ish) files across ubuntu machines? Rsync and SCP doesn't seem to work for me.
[11:29] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: Do you want me to dir /etc/fstab ?
[11:29] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: cat /etc/fstab and paste that in a pastebin
[11:31] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9639600/
[11:34] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: I've just tried to more discs that I haven't tried before and they didn't mount.
[11:36] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: add a line "/dev/cdrom /media/cdrom udf,iso9660 ro 0 0" and make sure /media/cdrom exists (mkdir /media/cdrom)
[11:37] <Renard> Hello,
[11:38] <InFierno> Hi guys, anyone here has experience with UE3 on Linux?
[11:39] <Renard> I used a USB key to install Ubuntu on my dekstop back in the days. I completely wiped it (3-pass wipe) and despite it being empty, my Arch/ARM (rpi) machine still thinks it's an install disk and lists some sort of squashfs. What did I miss here?
[11:40] <InFierno> Renard, Dunno if this will work but try formatting it with a windows PC if you have one (or macosx)
[11:40] <Renard> did that, didn't change anything
[11:41] <reggie-man> Are you sure you don't mean /media/<username>/cdrom Sh3r1ff? and am I adding that line to /etc/fstab ?
[11:41] <Renard> also the firmware seems to be set as "mkfs.fat" as the OEM string
[11:43] <InFierno> Renard, Odd; I usually do a quick NTFS format then back to fat32 and never have issues
[11:43] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: you can specify any directory you want, as long as it is an existing one
[11:43] <Renard> this behavior is consistant with another older key I have
[11:44] <Renard> something's definitely off
[11:44] <reggie-man> Do I add the line to /etc/fstab Sh3r1ff?
[11:45] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: yes
[11:45] <InFierno> Renard, Maybe its an arch linux caching issue?
[11:46] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: And then after that just try a disc again?
[11:47] <reggie-man> Because that didn't work.
[11:47] <mynameisdeleted> are 4k computer optimization tutorials welcome on ubuntu website?
[11:47] <mynameisdeleted> instructions for which graphics cards and hardware work wel at 4k.. how to disable compositing window managers, list of driver resources etc
[11:48] <InFierno> I would certainly like it
[11:48] <mynameisdeleted> also likely which tv/graphics card combos support 4k@60hz vs 4k@30hz
[11:49] <mynameisdeleted> probably want a dual screen section which is a list of graphics cards adn gpu-ports that support multiple screens at 4k
[11:49] <Renard> InFierno, tried with another disk which hasn't been exposed to a Linux install and it works fine
[11:49] <kostkon> mynameisdeleted, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143602
[11:49] <Renard> also found another one which says it's a Mac OSX install key on my rasbpi, and is blank on my desktop computer
[11:50] <InFierno> Hmm
[11:50] <InFierno> I honestly have no idea
[11:50] <Renard> so this isn't just Ubuntu
[11:50] <InFierno> Got it
[11:50] <InFierno> is it one of those keys with a lock feature?
[11:50] <Renard> something related to a boot sector? some TOC?
[11:50] <Renard> no
[11:53] <Renard> formatted in Gparted, the key immediately gets a default label (when none is manually set): "Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS amd64"
[11:54] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: restart or do mount -a
[11:54] <Renard> What's annoying about that is, I can no longer use these keys on my Raspberry Pi
[11:54] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: Okay, but that will be in a few hours. I'm ripping a DVD at the moment.
[11:59] <Renard> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/52129-disk-clean-clean-all-diskpart-command.html hm, maybe?
[12:01] <InFierno> Renard, Possibly failing usb drive?
[12:01] <Renard> no
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Renard, awefully quick "no" ... they DO go bad.
[12:01] <Renard> It's anew stick PLUS it happens on many keys
[12:02] <Renard> check yours, you probably still have a boot sector set
[12:02] <InFierno> What you could try Is on windows download the windows iso maker and put an ISO on it (it basically runs the diskpart commands for you)
[12:02] <InFierno> Diskpart, List disk, select disk #, clean, format fs=ntfs quick etc
[12:03] <Renard> I'll just try rebooting into my kinda useless Windows partition
[12:03] <Renard> brb
[12:07] <Frenks_4> Hello
[12:07] <Frenks_4> Can anyone help with adding a seccond hard drive in Ubuntu?
[12:17] <buckstabu> hi, guys. How can i report a bug in gcc 4.6 in precise/i386 ?
[12:18] <trijntje> ubuntu-bug gcc
[12:18] <trijntje> put that in a terminal and it will collect all required information for you
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !bug | buckstabu,
[12:20] <buckstabu> Hmm. I don't have ubuntu-bug in my chroot. Which package contains it?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> buckstabu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9639830/
[12:21] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: I didn't realize you said OR. I did sudo mount -a and that works now, but I have two drives with a disc in each, and only one of them is mounted.
[12:22] <buckstabu> Lol, i don't even have this package in repositories. Perhaps, I need to file a bug report through email/
[12:23] <plumplump> i'm having a curious issue with ubuntu 14.10, unity, and firefox - when i type in the address bar, my keyboard output is erratic and misses keys, etc.  doesn't seem to happen in any other app except firefox
[12:23] <k1l_> buckstabu: use launchpad.net
[12:27] <buckstabu> Also, I need to determine a type of bug. If that bug appears only on precise/i386, it's an ubuntu-specific bug?
[12:27]  * cfhowlett ubottu !precise
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Quiet today....
[12:32] <ararob> yes
[12:33] <cfhowlett> quiet = ubuntu is humming along and trolls are sleeping
[12:33] <plumplump> like, if i press the 'r' key five times, i get 'rrrrt' in any text field in firefox.
[12:34] <plumplump> 't' keeps jumping in there
[12:35] <notfadsssssss> if anyones got some time can someone help me figure out why my efi shell cannot map my drives?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> plumplump: does it happen in other applications? Does it happen with another keyboard?
[12:35] <Deef> Hey all, anyone able to help me with a remote access issue?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Deef: what are you using to remote access?
[12:36] <plumplump> actionparsnip: happens with another keyboard, only happens in firefox
[12:36] <plumplump> had no problems with xubuntu 14 which is what i was using before
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> plumplump: can you pastebin the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; apt-cache policy firefox
[12:37] <Deef> ActionParsnip: I am new to Ubuntu, and I have a server running in a country I'm not back in for another week. It is running TeamViewer, which no longer responds. I can access file sharing, so I can put a file on the server, but just need to launch a restart
[12:37] <emanuele> ciao
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Deef: what OS is the server?
[12:37] <emanuele> !list
[12:37] <Deef> Ubuntu 14
[12:38] <Deef> Exactly which version I don't know
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Deef: yhen why don't you use SSH? Are you seriously using teamviewer for that!?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Deef, ssh +1
[12:38] <Deef> Because I'm new to it, that's all. I don't know if I have SSH enabled on my server
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Deef: I'd try and SSH to it.
[12:39] <plumplump> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/eLS6sw32  if i type extra slowly the keys tend to input correctly.
[12:39] <Deef> Ok, I'll give that a shot, I'll report back :)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> People use teamviewer for the stupidest stuff
[12:39] <rzeka> I am about to run DNS servers. Can I use "ns1.domain.com" A record to point to ip and then set NS record for "ns1.domain.com" to point to "ns1.domain.com"?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> lol  too true
[12:39] <Zeedox> ActionParsnip: not really
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Zeedox: I had a dude in here jsing VNC to then launch a terminal on the desktop to use nano
[12:40] <plumplump> first step on any new machine is install openssh-server :P
[12:41] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, !  I .. he ... but ... *** facesmash to keyboard
[12:41] <White_Cat> hello
[12:41] <Zeedox> Well, I've spent the last couple of hours figuring out ssh bugs, so ssh is no messiah either.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> plumplump: if you close the web browser then rename ~/.mozilla (I assume you don't use Thunderbird) then launch the browser to get a vanilla profile, is it okay then?
[12:42] <plumplump> ActionParsnip: a
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: I educated, don't worry
[12:42] <plumplump> c
[12:42] <White_Cat> I am trying to use UEFI with ubutnu server
[12:42] <plumplump> actja..y
[12:42] <White_Cat> are the directions here rational? http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Zeedox: its more often than not a better tool, or web interfaces in apps
[12:42] <White_Cat> I dont want to reinstall my os, just to convert traditional bios boot to UEFI
[12:42] <plumplump> jesus, sorry bout that. tried a second keyboard. quit firefox and renamed profile, seems to work now
[12:43] <Zeedox> ActionParsnip: I'd disagree, but eh.
[12:43] <White_Cat> that is talking about a live cd but all I have is ubuntu server install usb
[12:43] <White_Cat> can I run those commands while running the OS itself?
[12:43] <plumplump> ActionParsnip: thanks, think that's done it.
[12:44] <plumplump> I wonder if it's because I didn't restart firefox after live-plugging (lol?) my usb keyboard.
[12:45] <plumplump> oh dear. there was a second usb keyboard plugged in simultaneously. sorry.
[12:45] <plumplump> i didn't see it behind there
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> plumplump: obviously bookmarks and such will need resyncing blah blah but should be ok
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> plumplump: you can rename the folders back and forth if required.  Dead easy
[12:47] <plumplump> ok. it's a fresh install so i'll just import my bookmarks as it is
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> plumplump: even better
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Zeedox: transmission and vlc have web uis. You can file manage with sftp (part of ssh server). What do you use teamviewer etc for?
[12:50] <plumplump> I've been using filezilla to do file management via sftp, perhaps he just really likes a desktop filemanager? could have vnc listen on localhost only, and then ssh tunnel to machine perhaps
[12:51] <pagann> hi
[12:51] <plumplump> hi
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> plumplump: nautilus can connect to SSHFS / SFTP
[12:52] <plumplump> ActionParsnip: no shit?! oh man
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> plumplump: yes, its a feature rich file manager, not like the crap you get in Windows
[12:53] <plumplump> i'll have to try this right now on my remote box at the 'rents
[12:53] <plumplump> ActionParsnip: well thats the kind of feature i didnt think to even look for
[12:53] <Zeedox> ActionParsnip: Not specifically TeamViewer, but there's nothing wrong with using a tool that is known to work.
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Zeedox: yeah but if a sleeker solution exists shouldn't it be used. I bet you use it to run updates ;-)
[12:54] <Zeedox> Rather than navigating mysterious bugs in other sw.
[12:56] <Deef> Hi all again, dickhead here with the Teamviewer issue. SSH is timing out, so I don't think I've installed it. I'll do that when I get back to the box. Any other options for me to somehow restart the machine (I have access to the drive using Teamviewer file sharing) but don't know enough about Ubuntu to do anything about it!
[12:57] <newerty> hi
[12:57] <notfadsssssss> deef: crash it ?
[12:57] <Deef> Would it restart though?
[12:57] <notfadsssssss> deef: install ssh but thats not an option i guess
[12:58] <notfadsssssss> deef: if you control it correctly, it will reboot will it not? just find a means at which the os forces reboot.
[12:58] <Deef> It should reboot I guess, but I don't know enough about how to force a reboot (or if it possible) by just manipulating files on the local HDD
[12:58] <notfadsssssss> deef: I have not been reading your messages, but If you need to restart something and cannot access it via ssh and have access to drives.
[12:58] <notfadsssssss> deef: oh just HDD drives?
[12:59] <Deef> I have access to the drive using file sharing, but can't establish a remote session
[12:59] <notfadsssssss> deef: what os? I thought you ment drivers drivers
[12:59] <ragnarock> Hi guys need help ,I am unable to ping www.github.com from my home wifi.Unable to connect from mobile too.Any  help is very much appreciated...
[12:59] <notfadsssssss> deef: can you make a bat file?
[12:59] <notfadsssssss> deef: and forice it to run? >.>
[12:59] <Deef> I can file share, but can't remote desktop. Just need to find a way to restart the machine if possible. If it isn't, then meh, nothing lost too much!
[13:00] <Deef> Forcing it to run is the tricky bit
[13:00] <Deef> One sec, I have access to an app console which is running on the server which might be able to launch a batch file
[13:00] <notfadsssssss> deef: arg sorry.
[13:00] <notfadsssssss> deef: so write a bat file to send restart command
[13:00] <Zeedox> ActionParsnip: I just dislike buggy software. ssh keeps giving me touble without any good error messages.
[13:01] <Deef> Bugger, the app console only runs specific things, not a custom batch
[13:01] <Deef> Never mind, I'll keep thinking and if not I'm back at the machine in a few days anyway
[13:01] <Deef> Thanks notfadsssssss
[13:03] <plumplump> i feel idiotic, but copying and pasting within a remote nautilus connection seems to be sending the data to my local machine and then back to the remote
[13:03] <darius93> Hey, are there any arguments i can use when I do apt-get dist-upgrade to ignore any prompts and continue on (eg prompts that tells me about changes to the configuration files)?
[13:05] <EriC^^> darius93: -y maybe
[13:08] <darius93> EriC^^, thats to accept and install packages automatically though
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:11] <happy05> hi
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> darius93: man apt.conf , may give clues
[13:13] <plumplump> which is more relevant to configuring the unity dock - Unity Tweak Tool or CompizConfigSettingsManager?
[13:14] <Rory> Is it possible to prevent a graphical dialogue asking for my passphrase when I use "gpg -d" from the terminal? Can I enter my password in the terminal window? I'm reasonably sure I have used a Linux distro at some point which had this latter behaviour
[13:14] <Rory> To be clear, I still want to be prompted for a passphrase, but I want the prompt to be in the same terminal I run "gpg -d" from, and not pop up in some dialogue box
[13:14] <k1l_> plumplump: unity-tweak-tool
[13:14] <plumplump> thanks
[13:14] <Rory> plumplump: The former is more unity-specific, it really depends what you trying to edit. Why not both?
[13:14] <newerty> hi...
[13:14] <plumplump> oh ok, im hoping to have minimize window to icon
[13:14] <newerty> happy new year...
[13:15] <newerty> merry christmas...
[13:15] <k1l_> plumplump: ccsm is not meant to be a user-tool. its very advanced in its settings and you might break more than you actually fix, in worst case disable all unity
[13:15] <plumplump> got it
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Rory: according to http://linux.die.net/man/1/gpg the cleartext should go to stdout, you can use --output option to spit the text to a file, then cat the file then delete it (if you want)
[13:19] <Rory> ActionParsnip: No, you misunderstand. The first time after logging in when I run gpg -d, the gpg-agent (I think) pops up a dialogue asking for the passphrase
[13:19] <Rory> ActionParsnip: For various not very interesting reasons, I would prefer gpg-agent to ask for my passphrase on the console
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Rory: makes sense. You could report a bug
[13:20] <Rory> It's not really a bug though
[13:21] <Rory> I think different distros do it differently... and obviously on a system without a graphical interface you get prompted on the console. But I just don't know where it's configured
[13:23] <churchill> ?
[13:23] <mwsb> Rory: This could be a bit dated, but reads what you're after (as far as I can see): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1510360
[13:23] <esmo> hi
[13:24] <Rory> mwsb: I had considered doing that, but that kills gpg-agent which means I'll be prompted for my password every time
[13:24] <robi_> helo
[13:24] <robi_> umbutu?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu | robi_,
[13:26] <robi_> lxde téma telepitenék terminálbol hogy kell??
[13:27] <k1l_> !hu | robi_
[13:28] <Trudko> guys some user friendly program for creating animated gifs ?
[13:30] <robi_> beléptem umbutu-hu de nincs senki,
[13:30] <kostkon> Trudko, yeah there is gimme 10 secs
[13:30] <k1l_> robi_: this channel is english only
[13:30] <kostkon> Trudko, QGifer. Google it and you'll find its sourceforge website. Download the .deb from there
[13:32] <Trudko> this seems tobe for extracting not recording
[13:32] <muculus> I want to make my ubuntu multiseat , where can I found a good tutorial or referece? I googled it, but I couldn't find good one.
[13:32] <kostkon> Trudko, no. it's for creating animated gifs
[13:33] <Trudko> so it should be able to record right <
[13:33] <flipapy> can ubuntu phone use any provider and any smartphone?
[13:34] <k1l_> flipapy: any provider but your phone must have a open bootloader. see #ubuntu-touch for more info
[13:34] <kostkon> Trudko, it can import videos
[13:34] <flipapy> thanks
[13:34] <Trudko> kostkon: so i would have to record video first and then extract gif?
[13:34] <kostkon> Trudko, i think so
[13:34] <Trudko> :/
[13:35] <flipapy> lumia 635 have an open bootloader?
[13:37] <k1l_> flipapy: microsoft lumias are very restrictive. buy a open bootloader device in the first place
[13:39] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: if you have two drives, you should add a line for /dev/cdrom0 and one for /dev/cdrom1
[13:39] <bipul> Hello, I am looking for latest document for setting a java path in Ubuntu.
[13:40] <robi_> vann téma lxdre ?
[13:41] <zhunnlove> ？
[13:41] <k1l_> robi_: this channel is english only. use #ubuntu-hu for your native language
[13:41] <flipapy> the ubuntu phone, it also serves as a laptop right?
[13:41] <zhunnlove> is this a group?
[13:41] <zhunnlove> can
[13:41] <k1l_> flipapy: like i said: #ubuntu-touch for that specific questions. and read the topic there
[13:42] <flipapy> oh sorry, i thought i was ther, my bad, thanks k1l_
[13:43] <robi_> ez irjam a terminálba?
[13:43] <bipul> I am looking for latest document for setting a java path in Ubuntu.
[13:44] <k1l_> robi_: Ez a csatorna csak angol nyelven
[13:45] <robi_> éetem
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> bipul: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[13:46] <bipul> I did that
[13:46] <bipul> But i am not able to run .class file
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> bipul: does it need marking executable?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> bipul: I suggest you ask in #java
[13:49] <bipul> ActionParsnip: I mean to say, that i am able to compile it with javac  and it's showing me .class. But the problem is that when i am trying to run it with java xyz.class it is giving me "Error: Could not find or load main class Div.class
[13:49] <bipul> "
[13:49] <bipul> Div=xyz.class
[13:50] <bipul> I made a directory inside my home folder with name "java" inside it i am trying to compile and run the code. Do you think it's correct way?
[13:50] <Trudko> koston i needsomething which can record to gif
[13:51] <ChrisP1948> System locked up again last night, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS, Gnome Desktop, kernel 3.14.0-031400-generic #201403310035 SMP Mon Mar 31 04:36:23 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux. My syslog again reports kernel: [219049.820014] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... render ring idle, anyone have any idea? Thought this had gone away when I upgraded from the 3.13 kernel
[13:53] <Trudko> i have found byzanz but my understanding is that you have to use it through command line and set size of window and even y/x of the window which seems odd
[13:54] <Seveas> ChrisP1948: looks like a hardware issue
[13:54] <BluesKaj_> ChrisP1948, do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[13:54] <ChrisP1948> Um I do not know, how would I check?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> ChrisP1948: is it the same under the default kernel for Trusty?
[13:55] <BluesKaj_> ChrisP1948, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras , in the terminal
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> ChrisP1948: you have some 3rd party kernel which we cannot support here
[13:56] <ChrisP1948> I installed the 3.14 on advice after reporting the bug to ubuntu
[13:56] <BluesKaj_> i see athe i915 intel graphics driver hanging on a drm problem
[13:57] <ChrisP1948> The kernel came from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-trusty/
[13:57] <kostkon> Trudko, i'm guessing you've already seen this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/107726/how-to-create-animated-gif-images-of-a-screencast
[13:57] <Trudko> yeah
[13:57] <ararob> ChrisP1948: i have that driver on my laptop, never experienced it with 3.13. or 3.16 kernels
[13:58] <BluesKaj_> ok a kernel module problem then
[13:58] <Trudko> but all of solutions are way to complicated I rather just switch to windows where there is bunch of small and easy to user programs
[13:58] <ChrisP1948> The restricted install is stuck at some EULA for MS stuff
[13:59] <BluesKaj_> ChrisP1948, agree to it with the tab key
[13:59] <Seveas> Trudko: then why don't you? We're not forcing you to make your life more difficult :)
[13:59] <bipul> Seems though no one has time to look on my problem.
[13:59] <ChrisP1948> Duh :)
[13:59] <Trudko> Seveas: ? not sure why did you feel like saying that but ok
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ChrisP1948: the kernel is not from the Ubuntu repos, so is not supported here
[14:00] <mwsb> Trudko: Typically, people don't appreciate guilt trips.
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: you can use a bash script loop an image magic to take screenshots every second (or whatever is appropriate). You can then use Gimp to make the GIF
[14:01] <Trudko> guilt trips ? wow
[14:02] <ChrisP1948> Ok, yes, it's from a PPA not a 'repo' so guess I should just leave here and find another channel? Guess I could go back to the individual from the PPA and get with him
[14:02] <Trudko> ActionParsnip: yeah sure I might I was just curious if there isnt some not know program which already does it.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: shouldnt be hard to make in bash
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !info byzanz
[14:03] <Trudko> i agree but  I can't realy do bash scripts and as I mentioned it would easier for me just to switch to windows and use soft there
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/byzanz-record.1.html
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: all I did was search the same Internet that you can search.....
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: come across that page?
[14:04] <Trudko> i take a look at byzanz but setting position and size of window through command line is clunky plus i need to remove some frames from gif (epescially at the beginig and the end of the video)
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: time to learn a new thing
[14:05] <Trudko>    nvm I will just use windows for this ,  i don't need it that much often anway
[14:05] <Trudko> no thanks  I  have tons of things to learn already
[14:05] <Trudko> thanks guys for your time tought  i appreciate it
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Seems like a simple enough creature
[14:12] <ararob> anyone know of a good hex editor that will let you search for a string in a binary? there's ghex, but, it seems it only searches for offset numbers, and i'd rather not use grep in bash either.
[14:22] <giovannino> ciao
[14:23] <Kinai> test
[14:24] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[14:24] <fancyfetus> I'm switching from windows/ubuntu to mac/ubuntu
[14:24] <fancyfetus> anything I should know before delving into it?
[14:24] <fancyfetus> words of wisdom for running ubuntu on a brand new macbook pro?
[14:25] <somsip> !mac | fancyfetus
[14:25] <fancyfetus> somsip, I don't think that link has the lastest macbook pro listed.
[14:26] <fancyfetus> Aren't they on 10 now?
[14:29] <plumplump> boy, snapraid is pretty nifty software
[14:31] <fancyfetus> somsip, is this alright? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-1/Saucy
[14:32] <White_Cat> hi
[14:32] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[14:32] <White_Cat> this is talking about the ubuntu linux live cd
[14:32] <White_Cat> is this different from the installation usb for ubuntu server?
[14:32] <White_Cat> can I run these commands while running the OS itself?
[14:34] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: don't know about the server disc, but the default installation disc is also a live cd
[14:34] <White_Cat> it gives me the option to install ubuntu etc in a list
[14:34] <White_Cat> is this where I am supposed to press Ctrl+Alt+T ?
[14:35] <BluesKaj_> White_Cat, create a new GPT partition table first, usually with windows then partition the unallocated space for linux and install from there
[14:35] <White_Cat> I dont use windows on this machine at all
[14:35] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: i would say that that is not a live cd
[14:35] <White_Cat> its purely ubutnu server
[14:36] <BluesKaj_> White_Cat, so why convert dos partiton table to uefi ?
[14:36] <White_Cat> what exactly is the live cd (computer doesnt have an optical disk so it would be through a USB)
[14:36] <White_Cat> Blue11 faster boot
[14:36] <White_Cat> better detection
[14:37] <White_Cat> legacy is being wonky
[14:37] <White_Cat> or else I wouldnt bother
[14:37] <BluesKaj_> yes, better driver detection ...understood
[14:37] <BluesKaj_> err hdd detection rather
[14:37] <BluesKaj_> or any othe rdrive for that matter
[14:38] <White_Cat> yeah
[14:38] <White_Cat> its on a real deal server too so its causing all sorts of other pain
[14:38] <White_Cat> actually is what is described at http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair logical?
[14:38] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: cd/usb, same thing, get the regular ubuntu installation disc, not the server one
[14:38] <White_Cat> ah
[14:38] <BluesKaj_> yup , I had the same problem , but creating gpt partition table solved it for me
[14:38] <White_Cat> for desktop
[14:38] <White_Cat> I see
[14:39] <White_Cat> can I make that happen by booting into the OS
[14:39] <White_Cat> because I can do that
[14:40] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: can make what happen?
[14:42] <newerty> good evening, ubuntu.
[14:42] <Crell> Good morning, newerty
[14:42] <newerty> good evening, crell.
[14:42] <newerty> lol.
[14:47] <White_Cat> Sh3r1ff apply changes necesary for EFI
[14:47] <newerty> white_cat, in what it has a problem?
[14:48] <White_Cat> newerty I want to convert bios boot to efi
[14:48] <White_Cat> I have no idea how to do it
[14:48] <White_Cat> but this is described at http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[14:48] <White_Cat> is that logical and if so can I apply those changes while running the OS itself
[14:49] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: i haven't checked the link you provided, but if you boot the live usb, you are in a regular os, so you can access the disc, run commands, ...
[14:49] <White_Cat> I dont really need the recovery disk to access the OS if I can do this form the os itself
[14:50] <erichf> hello
[14:50] <White_Cat> my point is forgoing the recovery disk itself, is that a possibility
[14:50] <White_Cat> Sh3r1ff its a series of commands it seems
[14:50] <White_Cat> nothing too complicated
[14:50] <White_Cat> I am terrified of frying my drive
[14:50] <newerty> white_cat, why to you it?
[14:52] <erichf> I have an issue where my chromium icon is opening join.me in app mode, what is the correct place to ask about resolving this?
[14:52] <erichf> I would like chromium, to open chromium in browser mode
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: you won't fry the drive. It will still function. Just be sure your backups are up to date before you start
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> erichf: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:53] <White_Cat> ActionParsnip I dont have backups and I cannot have them
[14:54] <White_Cat> thats the problem, thats why I need EFI
[14:54] <newerty> -.-
[14:54] <White_Cat> it wont detect the backup drive
[14:54] <White_Cat> I have a grub prompt on the ubuntu server installation disk
[14:54] <newerty> why not a grub, for example?
[14:55] <White_Cat> I am fairly new to linux. I am unsure how to solve this
[14:55] <aFeijo> hi folks, I mounted a webdav (box.com) account, I can create a file, save it, delete using vim. But it wont work for copying files! I try with cp and scp, it return an error: input/output error, what can I do?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: why is there no backup from when it was ok? I take it the data is disposable to you. ?.
[14:55] <newerty> >=<
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> aFeijo: how did you mount it?
[14:55] <White_Cat> ActionParsnip I am handed a problem and I am trying to fix it
[14:56] <White_Cat> if I had designed it, I would have done this first
[14:56] <White_Cat> I dont want to loose data
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: but is the data important?
[14:56] <White_Cat> yes
[14:56] <White_Cat> everything is working fine asife from EFI
[14:56] <erichf> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: what if the drive IDE or motor failed...where is your data?
[14:56] <White_Cat> its on raid 5 so its not suicidal
[14:56] <White_Cat> but no data would be lost if two drives fail
[14:57] <White_Cat> thats why I want to define a backup
[14:57] <aFeijo> ActionParsnip, hello :) I followed many pages with step by step to do it with box.com, but the bottom line is in the fstab file: https://dav.box.com/dav /home/xmodulo/box.com davfs rw,user,noauto 0 0
[14:57] <White_Cat> to do that I need EFI as drives arent being detected by legacy bios
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: raid is not an escuse to not backup
[14:57] <aFeijo> ActionParsnip, I used davfs2
[14:57] <White_Cat> ActionParsnip I KNOW.
[14:57] <aFeijo> like in this tutorial http://xmodulo.com/how-to-mount-box-com-cloud-storage-on-linux.html
[14:57] <White_Cat> All I am asking is how to convert this to EFI
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: people love to learn the hard way. You are going to have to swing and hope
[14:58] <White_Cat> hard way what?
[14:58] <White_Cat> I didnt design this
[14:58] <White_Cat> I am trying to fix it
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: data loss = hard way
[14:58] <White_Cat> if you do not know how to do this please stop wasting my time
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: people don't backup their "important" data then cry when it comes to the crunch
[14:59] <White_Cat> Do you not understand the issue?
[14:59] <White_Cat> The dickhead before me didnt bother with a backup
[14:59] <White_Cat> I am trying to fix that
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: the guide you posted has concise commands to chroot to the insralled OS from liveCd and convert
[14:59] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, language ..!!!
[14:59] <White_Cat> I have many talents, time travel isnt one of them
[14:59] <basichash> !language
[14:59] <White_Cat> ActionParsnip umm yes?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: you have a guide....go for it
[15:00] <geoffmcc> White_Cat: Do you understand that ActionParsnip has been active in this community for years and is probably one of, if not the most knowledgable people in this channel
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> geoffmcc: I wouldn't say that :-)
[15:00] <White_Cat> geoffmcc that may be it doesnt change my plight.
[15:00] <geoffmcc> White_Cat: your just not being very respectful
[15:00] <White_Cat> ActionParsnip my question is if I can run those commands from the OS itself
[15:00] <White_Cat> geoffmcc  I am sorry you feel that way
[15:01] <White_Cat> I meant no disrepsect
[15:01] <newerty> x.x
[15:01] <White_Cat> I am frustrated by the situation I am in due to the previous guy
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: i believe the disk will need to be not in use to change it
[15:01] <White_Cat> ActionParsnip ah, I fear as much.
[15:01] <mcphail> newerty: please stop spamming the channel
[15:02] <White_Cat> Would the ubuntu server installation disk (usb drive in my case) handle the same task? I currently have a grub prompt from it
[15:02] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, http://fpaste.org/164068/   note line 8
[15:03] <White_Cat> cfhowlett like I said, I am unable to define a backup
[15:03] <erichf> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:03] <White_Cat> I have great need to switch to EFI to be able to define backups
[15:07] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: as said, to have a live cd, you'll need the desktop version
[15:07] <White_Cat> Sh3r1ff I am downloading it as we speak.
[15:08] <White_Cat> I merely was curious if the server version could handle the task
[15:08] <White_Cat> it has a number of options
[15:09] <Sh3r1ff> it has been a long time since i installed an ubuntu server, but booting live isn't one of the options if i remember correctly
[15:09] <cfhowlett> Sh3r1ff, still true, sadly.
[15:09] <White_Cat> ah my luck is terrible today :/
[15:09] <White_Cat> at least its a problem with a solution
[15:09] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, *never done myself, but ...*   can't you boot a live cd, chroot to your target and make the changes>??
[15:10] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: see this as one of the many challenges life has for you ;)
[15:14] <White_Cat> cfhowlett I am downloading a live cd so it will take a short while :)
[15:14] <White_Cat> internet is slow here :(
[15:15] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, don't complain about slow DL.  I'm in China.  I've seen moss move faster than Chinese ISP.
[15:15] <White_Cat> oh I am not complaining
[15:15] <White_Cat> I remember the days of 56k
[15:16] <White_Cat> where the connection was capped at half that
[15:16] <White_Cat> I love the reaction of kids when they hear of days youtube didnt exist :p
[15:16] <White_Cat> but this is rather off topic :)
[15:18] <BluesKaj_> or here in the boonies 750Kb/s passes for 6mb speeds ..maximum available in our small town , even though the Fiber Optic Trunk Line is 2km away from us
[15:18] <erichf> Hello, My chromium icon (app launcher) is labled 'hangouts' and opens the web site join.me in app mode :/ Any ideas on how to make chromium open chromium with tool bars?
[15:22] <BluesKaj_> erichf, chromium>settings>click on "open a specific page or set of pages", then open a new tab and go to the page you want as default and copy theurl into the box and click ok
[15:24] <erichf> BluesKaj, that's not my issue -- Something is wrong with my app icon, or shortcut
[15:24] <erichf> Where are app icon configs stored?
[15:26] <BluesKaj_> erichf, no i think the icon is ok , just try the suggestion above
[15:27] <erichf> when I type `chromium-browser` into terminal I get my desired behavior
[15:27] <erichf> When I click chromium icon, I do not
[15:27] <erichf> I think the problem is with the icon
[15:27] <Sh3r1ff> erichf: right click the launcher and change the command?
[15:27] <erichf> I don't have the option to do that
[15:28] <erichf> How does one do that?
[15:28] <BluesKaj_> erichf, ok then remove the icon since it obviously is configured incorrectly and try a new launcher
[15:28] <Sh3r1ff> erichf: if you right click on the icon, what does it give you?
[15:31] <nomadist> hi!
[15:31] <chiedo> hi
[15:31] <nomadist> how do I telnet to my vps?
[15:31] <nomadist> hi chiedo
[15:32] <nickander> nomadist: telnet address port
[15:33] <nomadist> nickander, can I telnet to a vps if I'm already logged in to it via ssh?
[15:33] <nomadist> I'm getting: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[15:33] <nikis> nomadist: what are you trying to telnet to? Do you have a telnet daemon installed on the server?
[15:34] <nomadist> on the vps I can see that telnet is installed
[15:34] <nikis> (also, using telnet for remote server access is not recommended, it is highly preferable to use SSH)
[15:34] <nomadist> I am running a spider on VPS. and I'm trying to do this from my local machine-> http://doc.scrapy.org/en/latest/topics/leaks.html#debugging-memory-leaks-with-trackref
[15:35] <nomadist> to debug an issue, but I suck at linux
[15:35] <nikis> nomadist: if that service is only running on localhost, you would not be able to connect to it remotely.
[15:35] <nikis> As in, you would first have to SSH to your server, and from that, telnet to that port.
[15:36] <nomadist> oh
[15:36] <nomadist> ok, another silly question then
[15:36] <nomadist> I log into my vps.. ssh ip@port
[15:37] <nomadist> I start my program on the terminal $> python run.py for example..
[15:37] <nomadist> but now I have occupied it completely
[15:37] <nikis> nomadist: that seems odd... are you sure you are not using ssh username@ip?
[15:37] <Pici> !creen | nikis
[15:37] <Pici> !screen | nomadist
[15:37] <nomadist> and I cannot do another ssh from another terminal
[15:38] <Pici> nomadist: You really should look into screen or tmux or byobu
[15:38] <nomadist> nikis, no ip@port, I have a digitalocean vps ubuntu 1404
[15:38] <nomadist> oh sorry, ^ nikis you're right
[15:38] <nomadist> Pici, so I install this and I can have multiple terminals in a single ssh session?
[15:39] <swiftwalker> How can I disable my laptop's keyboard but keep the USB keyboard working?
[15:39] <Pici> nomadist: indeed.
[15:39] <swiftwalker> Pici; any idea
[15:40] <swiftwalker> please help
[15:40] <RNeville> I have a file "viber.deb" and need to install on Ubuntu 14.04, any help appreciated,pls
[15:40] <nikis> swiftwalker: you can use "xinput" to achieve that. For more detailed instructions, please refer to here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160945/is-there-a-way-to-disable-a-laptops-internal-keyboard
[15:41] <Sh3r1ff> !dpkg | RNeville
[15:41] <nomadist> ok, so I typed screen and pressed ctrl-a-v (following this tutorial->https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-use-screen-on-an-ubuntu-cloud-server)
[15:42] <RNeville> ubottu: thx
[15:42] <RNeville> no even sure how to run dpkg
[15:42] <nomadist> and I'm getting a blinking prompt at the bottom left that says "Enter digraph"
[15:42] <RNeville> is dpkg a command line tool/
[15:42] <swiftwalker> nikis; thanks, that solution worked!
[15:42] <nikis> RNeville: it is. :)
[15:42] <nikis> swiftwalker: glad to hear that!
[15:42] <RNeville> k
[15:43] <Sh3r1ff> RNeville: dpkg -i viber.deb
[15:44] <Pici> nomadist: no, you pressed ctrl-a ctrl-v
[15:44] <RNeville> Sh3r1ff: thx
[15:44] <Pici> nomadist: press ctrl-a then let go of both keys and press v
[15:46] <nomadist> Pici, I see, thanks. This is amazing.
[15:46] <Sh3r1ff> nomadist: try "man screen" for a full set of key bindings ;)
[15:50] <Radicalzinho> +i Radicalzinho
[15:50] <Radicalzinho> .l.
[15:50] <Radicalzinho> alguem ai ?
[15:51] <Jake> Hi, does anyone here know how to reset the ssh failed authentications so I can login to my machine again?
[15:51] <Jake> (Ubuntu Server 14.04.01)
[15:52] <nickander> Jake: which side is refusing auth?
[15:53] <erichf> If I `sudo apt-get remove chromium-broswer`, how is it that I am still using chromium?
[15:53] <nickander> Jake: you may just need to remove the entry from your .ssh/known_hosts
[15:53] <Jake> nickander: the server is disconnecting due to too many failed authentications, I was messing with keys and broke it a lil
[15:53] <Jake> I can still access the server through alternative means
[15:53] <Jake> but I'd like to reset the auth count so I can actually use my accounts correctly again
[15:54] <SchrodingersScat> if you're using fail2ban, may just have to wait if that's easier
[15:55] <Jake> SchrodingersScat: I'm using the default ssh configuration
[15:55] <Jake> I don't think fail2ban is even installed
[15:55] <Jake> what is the wait time for it to reset anyway?
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> Jake: I think 180
[15:57] <Jake> seconds? minutes?
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> seconds
[15:57] <Jake> well it hasn't reset in the 45 minutes I left it to watch something on YouTube
[16:01] <Sh3r1ff> Jake: if you messed with the keys, do as nickander said and remove the entry from .ssh/known_hosts and try again
[16:02] <Jake> Sh3r1ff: on the client or server?
[16:02] <Sh3r1ff> Jake: client
[16:03] <Jake> Sh3r1ff: still getting disconnected by server:  Too many authentication failures for jake
[16:08] <Jake> When connecting using ssh, I'm getting "Roaming not allowed by server", perhaps this is an issue?
[16:09] <Zequal> What is the 'best' way to back-up an 'active' Lucid (LTS 10.04) system?
[16:09] <Jake> Zequal: you could make a tar of the root directory
[16:09] <Sh3r1ff> Jake: can you try ssh -o PreferredAuthentications=password user@host ?
[16:10] <Jake> Sh3r1ff: password is disabled
[16:10] <Zequal> Jake: You would need to shut down all services, otherwise databases will become corrupted..
[16:11] <Jake> Zequal: if it's a mySQL database you can dump a copy of all databases and tables and copy that file
[16:12] <Jake> Sh3r1ff: it works with password authentication but this is not ideal
[16:12] <Zequal> Okay, well.. Let's say the DB guy is out for lunch and in the meantime, I need to backup this ancient ubuntu install with a minimal chance of corruption.
[16:12] <Sh3r1ff> Jake: try ssh -i <key> -o 'IdentitiesOnly yes' user@host
[16:14] <Jake> Sh3r1ff: http://pastebin.com/kCfbKjY5
[16:14] <White_Cat> okay so when I run those commands mount prompts me for a filesystem type
[16:14] <White_Cat> I am quite puzzled
[16:15] <Jake> Zequal: how about rsyncing the files you need and excluding the databases?
[16:16] <White_Cat> sda2 seems to have ext4 and sda3 swap
[16:16] <White_Cat> sda1 appears blank
[16:17] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[16:17] <White_Cat> I am trying to run these commands
[16:18] <White_Cat> sda1 is 512k in size'
[16:18] <Sh3r1ff> Jake: from what i read about it, roaming not allowed is not an error message, but just a simple debug message
[16:19] <linson> i have a good computer & static IP internet connection &(PPTP, L2TP, IPSec Pass-through)compactible router(TD-W8968) CAN I HOST A VPN MY OWN?
[16:21] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: when you create a partition, use fdisk and mkfs to set the filesystem
[16:21] <White_Cat> on gparted its listed as bios_grub
[16:22] <White_Cat> I didnt create it though
[16:22] <White_Cat> Sh3r1ff I booted with live cd
[16:22] <White_Cat> this is the partition from my os, I am trying to convert it to efi still
[16:23] <White_Cat> filesystem appears unknown
[16:23] <linson> i have a good computer & static IP internet connection &(PPTP, L2TP, IPSec Pass-through)compactible router(TD-W8968) CAN I HOST A VPN MY OWN?
[16:23] <linson> anyone pls help me
[16:24] <White_Cat> linson sure
[16:24] <linson> thnx
[16:24] <White_Cat> anyone can run a vpn
[16:24] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: what does fdisk -l say?
[16:24] <White_Cat> System one says GPT
[16:25] <White_Cat> I believe thats the one?
[16:25] <BluesKaj_> White_Cat, yes, I run openvpn on a PIA server
[16:26] <White_Cat> Sh3r1ffso I need to run the command something like sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt gpt?
[16:27] <White_Cat> I dont want to make a mistake :(
[16:28] <linson> i am from india.....here i need to set up vpn on my home computer so thst i can connect to my network when i go to dubai
[16:28] <Sh3r1ff> White_Cat: if i read your guide, you first need to add a efi partition
[16:28] <linson> without using openvpn...just my computer router and internet
[16:28] <Sh3r1ff> !openvpn | linson
[16:29] <White_Cat> ah I'll look at this tomorow
[16:29] <White_Cat> thanks for the hints so far :)\
[16:29] <linson> but it limits user...like no of connections
[16:30] <micropore> anyone can help me ?
[16:31] <BluesKaj_> linson, if you use openvpn , then there are any number of commercial vpn services to choose from
[16:31] <linson> like lisence purchace...i need free....its linux
[16:31] <Sh3r1ff> linson: number of connections is configurable, so configure openvpn with the number of connections you need
[16:32] <BluesKaj_> linson, well I pay 8bucks/month for my vpn service ...pretty cheap by most standards
[16:32] <micropore> i need to disable suspend on ubuntu 14.04, I do it using preferences menu but it doesn't work,anyone knows some command or anything else, thanks
[16:32] <linson> so open vpn have licence purchase options
[16:32] <linson> why
[16:33] <micropore> linson: i need to disable suspend on ubuntu 14.04, I do it using preferences menu but it doesn't work,anyone knows some command or anything  else, thanks
[16:33] <linson> so open vpn acts as server for our vpn?.....i need my system as server
[16:34] <BluesKaj_> not only purchase type servers, there are some free ones, but they are very slow and restrictive speedwise
[16:34] <micropore> anyone can help me ?
[16:34] <BluesKaj_> linson, and not reliable
[16:34] <micropore> i need to disable suspend on ubuntu 14.04, I do it using preferences menu but it doesn't work,anyone knows some command or anything else, thanks
[16:35] <micropore> i need to disable suspend on ubuntu 14.04, I do it using preferences menu but it doesn't work,anyone knows some command or anything  else, thanks
[16:35] <micropore> anyone can help me ?
[16:35] <Sh3r1ff> linson: install openvpn on your system, configure your router to accept the connection and forward it to your system, and you can connect from around the globe
[16:37] <micropore> i need to disable suspend on ubuntu 14.04, I do it using preferences menu but it doesn't work,anyone knows some command or anything  else, thanks
[16:37] <BluesKaj_> openvpn uses the network manager to configure the servers that you choose to connect
[16:38] <mattcan> micropore: have you tried this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/452908/how-to-disable-suspend-in-14-04
[16:39] <bubbasaures> micropore, We ask you wait ten minutes before repeating your request, and suspend is something you initiate.
[16:39] <micropore> bubbasaures: sorry i didnt read :)
[16:40] <ubuntu-utnubu> hi #ubuntu ... using usb for installation of last downlable version for desktop, it does not let me choose the hard drive (but see it) and it try to install it on the usb key.
[16:40] <CalebW> I can't log into my desktop after the login screen it just shows the background and the mouse. At first I thought it was unity or compiz so I install gnome Flashback and tried the Metacity session.
[16:40] <CalebW> But it's still locked up(and it's happinging on all users)
[16:41] <CalebW> So I think it's my libgl1-mesa-dri
[16:42] <mijk> I can't seem to create a folder called /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo so I can put a file called "switch" with the contents "ON" so I can use my AMD card
[16:42] <CalebW> ubuntu-utnubu: Use "$dd if=/path/to/ubuntu/img of=/path/to/drive
[16:42] <micropore> mattcan: thanks so much i try but doesnt work
[16:42] <ramzy> hello ,how can fix boot in linux
[16:42] <bubbasaures> ubuntu-utnubu, make sure there is unallocated space for ubuntu.
[16:42] <CalebW> ramzy: that's a pretty vague question. We have no idea what's causeing your problem
[16:43] <bubbasaures> ubuntu-utnubu, There are also limitations of partition types and amounts in a msdos setup.
[16:43] <mattcan> micropore: ah sorry, I've no idea then. Never had the problem before :(
[16:44] <CalebW> Can someone help me? My desktop's not working.
[16:44] <ubuntu-utnubu> bubbasaures: I have completly clean the disk .. but not ... then with a live gparted create partition for it ... but not
[16:44] <oem> bryan
[16:45] <ubuntu-utnubu> is there a way to install ubuntu from command line ?
[16:45] <Sh3r1ff> ubuntu-utnubu: there should be an option like manual partitioning or choose action or something like that
[16:45] <Sh3r1ff> there you can select the disk you want to install on
[16:46] <ubuntu-utnubu> Sh3r1ff: it goes directly to manual partitionning, see the disk but stay on the key, it does let me select the sda one
[16:46] <CalebW> ubuntu-utnubu: Enter the command "$dd if=/path/to/ubuntu/img of=/dev/sd<letter of your drive>"
[16:46] <BluesKaj_> ubuntu-utnubu, to install/upgrade to new release?
[16:46] <ubuntu-utnubu> CalebW: it goes fine to create the key, but thanks.
[16:46] <ubuntu-utnubu> BluesKaj_: install
[16:47] <ubuntu-utnubu> on a clean drinve
[16:47] <ubuntu-utnubu> s/drinve/drive
[16:47] <BluesKaj_> !minimal
[16:47] <bubbasaures> ubuntu-utnubu, pastebin the out put of sudo parted -l
[16:47] <ubuntu-utnubu> BluesKaj_: cool thanks!
[16:48] <bubbasaures> unmentioned uefi may be the issue
[16:48] <CalebW> I need help with my intel graphics driver.
[16:49] <cfhowlett> CalebW, details
[16:49] <CalebW> cfhowlett: Well, I can't login to my desktop, it just freezes at the background and mouse.
[16:50] <cfhowlett> CalebW, recent updates?  especially kernel?
[16:50] <BluesKaj_> CalebW, at the login page or before?
[16:50] <CalebW> cfhowlett: I thought it was compiz or unity so I installed gnome-flashback and tried the Metacity Session but it didn't work.
[16:50] <CalebW> cfhowlett: after the login page.
[16:51] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj_, ideas?  this one is over my head
[16:51] <CalebW> I can do a kernel upgrade with dist-upgrade but I haven't yet(didn't know if I should)
[16:52] <cfhowlett> Calebw dist-upgrades usually solve a lot of problems.  if possible, log in to the terminal, do the upgrades then reboot
[16:52] <CalebW> It happend yesterday all of the sudden. In the morning it was fine, then I go to login that afternoon and it locked up.
[16:53] <CalebW> The only package i installed was python-visual (don't know if that would cause a problem or not)
[16:53] <BluesKaj_> CalebW, the at the login page try ctl+alt +F!-F6 and login there , then update anf upgrade or , choose the recovery kernel at grub prompt and try try the reapir option in the dialog that appears
[16:53] <CalebW> I'm in tty1
[16:53] <CalebW> I've already upgraded but there were some packages held back
[16:53] <CalebW> I' do the dist-upgrade now
[16:53] <BluesKaj_> did you login to the the tty/vt?
[16:54] <cfhowlett> CalebW, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:55] <CalebW> I've done a lot of reading and a lot of the problems I've seen have to do with nvidia drivers, but I don't have a nvidia graphics card.
[16:56] <BluesKaj_> i would apt-get upgrade first then dist-upgrade, it's better to upgrade the existing packages first then the packages that are held back with dist-upgrade
[16:57] <CalebW> BluesKaj_: I've already upgraded yesterday.
[16:57] <BluesKaj_> do it agin today
[16:58] <CalebW> BluesKaj_: Just tried, nothing was installed though several packages were held back. I'm doing the dist-upgrade no
[16:58] <CalebW> now*
[16:58] <BluesKaj_> ok
[16:59] <fakam> Anyone on that is familiar with powertop?
[16:59] <plumplump> i just chmod 755'd my /media/<username> directory, is that bad?
[16:59] <plumplump> i wanted plex media server to be able to read files in it
[17:00] <fakam> Chmoding directories outside home is never good.
[17:00] <CalebW> plumplump: Well, only you can read,write,and excute to it. The other users will only be able to read and write
[17:00] <CalebW> I'm sorry read and execute
[17:00] <fakam> So I installed ubuntu my batterylife is shit and is running hot? Any suggestions/
[17:01] <plumplump> yeah.. but it was 750 root:root by default?
[17:01] <xangua> !language | fakam
[17:01] <Mike5kt> hi to everybody, how to install gnome in ubuntu 14:04?
[17:01] <fakam> Sorry
[17:01] <bubbasaures> fakam, Yes, no swearing here please.
[17:01] <cfhowlett> !gnome | Mike5kt
[17:01] <xangua> fakam: you can try this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[17:01] <fakam> I dualboot win 7 wich runs fine and is cool.
[17:02] <Mike5kt> thx
[17:02] <fakam> ok I ran powertop but i have no clue what to do lol
[17:03] <BluesKaj_> fakam, no need for bad language, but check to make sure your desktop search isn't running constantly as a daemon
[17:03] <CalebW> BluesKaj_: I have been getting an error during upgrade that said"unable to autolauch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11
[17:04] <fakam> I was told three times sorry and thank you
[17:04] <BluesKaj_> CalebW, which desktop do use?
[17:04] <BluesKaj_> you
[17:04] <fakam> I actually have xubuntu
[17:04] <CalebW> I've been using unity
[17:04] <CalebW> I tried Gnome Flashback(Metacity) and it still locks up
[17:05] <cfhowlett> !fan | fakam,
[17:05] <fakam> I will check out the links
[17:06] <BluesKaj_> CalebW, which graphics gpu ?
[17:06] <fakam> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html  goes to a blank page
[17:06] <CalebW> BluesKaj_: Intel
[17:08] <fakam> Okay installed tlp increased battery time.. next.. my wifi on win works fine but on ubuntu it's much slower, Thank you for the help
[17:09] <CalebW> Ok, dist-upgrade is done, I'm going to reboot and see if the problems persist.
[17:10] <fakam> So how can I get my wifi to be as fast as it is on windows?
[17:11] <souldessin> fakam: what is the problem?
[17:11] <jdzielny> hello everyone.  I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS and configure 2 of the drives I have into RAID 1, but the installer keeps freezing whenever I try to configure software RAID
[17:11] <fakam> In windows 7 wifi works fast in ubuntu it's slower
[17:11] <souldessin> rather, how is it not working right
[17:11] <cfhowlett> !server | jdzielny,
[17:12] <souldessin> fakam: how did you test it and did you check for additional drivers?
[17:12] <fakam> I remained in the same room same place and did a att speed test.. and ubuntu was significantly slower.. No I did not check for drivers.
[17:14] <souldessin> fakam: I would bet that you have additional drivers available.
[17:14] <triss> hey all. whats the simplest way of uninstalling the kubuntu stuff on 14.10?
[17:14] <fakam> How would I determine that?, thank you souldessin
[17:14] <triss> I installed it to look at and now all my themes under unity are ugly
[17:15] <souldessin> fakam: If you are in standerd Ubuntu, you need to search for 'additional drivers'
[17:15] <fakam> I am actually in Xubuntu.
[17:15] <souldessin> fakam: it is a sub-tab of
[17:15] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu | triss
[17:15] <souldessin> fakam: 'software and sources'
[17:15] <fakam> additional drivers is here
[17:16] <triss> cheers cfhowlett
[17:16] <souldessin> fakam: just activate the right one, it may need a reboot.
[17:16] <fakam> Because this was ubuntu and I switched to xubuntu.
[17:16] <cfhowlett> triss, happy2help!
[17:16] <fakam> souldessin, okay it's searching, I will try it.
[17:18] <fakam> souldessin, which one shall I choose: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48751994/Screenshot%20-%2012292014%20-%2009%3A17%3A07%20AM.png
[17:19] <souldessin> fakam: those are just for your video driver. You have to play with those and see which one works best for your hardware.
[17:20] <fakam> I don't see network drivers though.
[17:20] <CalebW> BluesKaj_: Didn't work
[17:20] <souldessin> fakam: I am checking to see if there is another solution; one sec.
[17:20] <fakam> Thank you.
[17:21] <souldessin> fakam: I hate to say that this is all that I can find on short notice, http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/
[17:22] <fakam> Thank you for your time souldessin.
[17:22] <souldessin> fakam: later
[17:23] <fakam> Should I use the propietary driver though
[17:27] <alex_ander> hello brothers. i want ti ask, How to add theme on ubuntu 14.04?
[17:28] <EriC^^> alex_ander: install unity-tweak-tool
[17:28] <alex_ander> thanks brother. :)
[17:34] <revo> hey gents/ladies...
[17:34] <revo> can any1 help me
[17:34] <revo> i want to install a transparent system monitor
[17:34] <cfhowlett> !help | revo,
[17:34] <revo> ???
[17:34] <VimFleed> Could someone explain to me what is the difference between Ubuntu and Debian?
[17:34] <cfhowlett> revo, conky
[17:35] <cfhowlett> !debian | VimFleed
[17:35] <revo> ok
[17:35] <revo> ok, is this on software centre?
[17:35] <cfhowlett> revo, it is
[17:36] <cfhowlett> !info conky | revo
[17:36] <revo> thx, also, since talking about software centre, how can i change the "our star apps" to a ganother background ?
[17:37] <EriC^^> !themes | alex_ander
[17:38] <VimFleed> ubottu, I mean what is the difference for average people like me?
[17:38] <EriC^^> alex_ander: you can download themes from those sites, and install them using unity-tweak-tool
[17:38] <chipmadness> hello guys i am having some issues regarding steam and ubuntu 14
[17:38] <chipmadness> can someone please help me
[17:38] <bubbasaures> VimFleed, Not really the channel for an explanation this is ubuntu support.
[17:38] <VimFleed> oh I'm talking to a bot :S
[17:39] <VimFleed> bubbasaures, what is the place to discuss that?
[17:39] <revo> ok ... so im trying to install this tranparent theme, folllowed all info and instructions but i cannot see it on themes configuration
[17:39] <revo> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/how-to-install-oxygen-transparent-style.html
[17:39] <EriC^^> VimFleed: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux maybe
[17:39] <bubbasaures> VimFleed, Not sure there is one research is your muse.
[17:41] <cfhowlett> VimFleed, ##linux #debian #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:41] <chipmadness> anyone here good with amd drivers?
[17:41] <chipmadness> i am having major issues with my graphics
[17:41] <chipmadness> i have a a10-5750m
[17:42] <revo> thx eric, downloading unity-tweak-tool now
[17:42] <chipmadness> should i just get my graphics from additional drivers?
[17:42] <chipmadness> or should i go to amd's site and get official drivers
[17:43] <EriC^^> chipmadness: yes, that'd be a good place to start
[17:43] <chipmadness> EriC^^ whats better
[17:43] <chipmadness> x.orgx
[17:43] <chipmadness> fglrx
[17:43] <chipmadness> or fglrx-updates
[17:44] <revo> whats the diference between kde and gnome - has this anything to do with os - currently running xubuntu
[17:45] <jhutchins> chipmadness: The xorg drivers are usually a little better integrated into the xorg/ubuntu system and tend to have fewer glitches.  On the other hand, the AMD drivers are more likely to make full use of the GPU's features and new enhancements, and usually have better performance under high-demand (gaming) use.
[17:46] <chipmadness> jhutchins idk what to do lol
[17:46] <EriC^^> chipmadness: what jhutchins said ^^ , if you're not gaming i'd use the xorg as they run better and cooler too
[17:46] <jhutchins> revo: Not strictly speaking OS.   The desktop interface you use on top of the OS.  KDE and Gnome include a suite of programs for various things like email and system configuration.
[17:46] <chipmadness> what if i want to game
[17:46] <Sh3r1ff> revo: basicly, how things are displayed
[17:46] <skao> revo: kde, gnome, xfce are desktop interfaces on top of the os
[17:46] <chipmadness> use fglrx or fglrx-updates?
[17:46] <jhutchins> revo: You can have either or both installed, in addition to many other possibilities.
[17:47] <skao> revo: the OS beneath is the same
[17:47] <jhutchins> chipmadness: tias.
[17:47] <chipmadness> tias?
[17:47] <EriC^^> try it and see
[17:47] <jhutchins> chipmadness: It's not an irrevocable decision, and in some cases it depends on the game.
[17:48] <chipmadness> if i want to play counter strike
[17:48] <chipmadness> is x.org fine?
[17:49] <zilz> need some help with dropbox in ubuntu studio. Anyone of you can point me to the right channel? Or can help me?
[17:49] <sivik> what about dropbox?
[17:50] <zilz> i installed it and it works but i can't see it. It works but in the background. When i try to launch it nothing happens
[17:53] <chipmadness> guys i just did the x.org
[17:53] <chipmadness> steam is finally working
[17:53] <chipmadness> steam never worked using fglrx-updates
[17:53] <sivik> congrats chipmadness
[17:54] <chipmadness> thats pretty sad when an open source driver is better than a propietary
[17:54] <Spark> so xmem was removed from ubuntu with the 'alternatives exist' tag
[17:54] <Spark> but i can't find any alternatives
[17:54] <Spark> and the original bug doesn't mention any
[17:55] <willwh> chipmadness: are you new tro the nix scene?
[17:55] <Spark> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733668
[17:55] <willwh> ati are
[17:55] <willwh> well
[17:55] <chipmadness> i am not new
[17:55] <willwh> in my experience, terrible in comparison to nvidia
[17:55] <chipmadness> i have been running nvidia on my other computer
[17:55] <chipmadness> ubuntu works a ton better with nvidia is seems
[17:55] <chipmadness> and intel
[17:55] <willwh> yeah
[17:55] <chipmadness> im on my amd laptop machine
[17:55] <willwh> it's what I am running
[17:55] <chipmadness> it sucks major d
[17:55] <willwh> ah rfr
[17:56] <chipmadness> i got a amd10-8750m
[17:56] <willwh> laptops are usually terrible for gaming
[17:56] <willwh> disk i/o issues (without an ssd), terrible gfx card, etc
[17:56] <chipmadness> yeah im not looking to game
[17:56] <chipmadness> i am looking for better battery life
[17:57] <chipmadness> im on a thinkpad
[17:57] <chipmadness> windows i get 6 hours
[17:57] <chipmadness> ubuntu i get around 3-4
[17:58] <willwh> ah rgr
[17:59] <Spark> loss of xmem and no alternative is for me a good reason to avoid trusty
[18:00] <revo> so i have download and run conky, but i can chage its apperance and after  time it just disaperas
[18:00] <revo> i cant change appearnace
[18:01] <squinty> revo:  there is a #conky channel here on freenode
[18:02] <revo> how do i get on it ?
[18:02] <revo> just copy and paste ?
[18:02] <squinty> revo:  /join #conky
[18:02] <revo> thx
[18:07] <Sh3r1ff> revo: create a file ~/conkyrc and put your config in there
[18:08] <EriC^^> *~/.conkyrc
[18:09] <Sh3r1ff> i stand corrected ~/.conkyrc
[18:09] <Sh3r1ff> EriC^^: thanks for pointing that out :)
[18:09] <nomadist> hi!
[18:09] <nomadist> I have a suspicion that a process might be spawning zombies
[18:09] <EriC^^> Sh3r1ff: :)
[18:09] <nomadist> which command line command do I type to investigate if this is happening
[18:09] <nomadist> the name of the process is "phantomjs"
[18:10] <nomadist> and pgrep phantomjs shows only one thing
[18:10] <Sh3r1ff> nomadist: get the pid of the process and do ps -ef | grep <pid> to see if it has child processes
[18:14] <nomadist> Sh3r1ff, the PID is changing very fast, but on doing that.. I am only getting one result
[18:16] <Sh3r1ff> nomadist: the pid should not change, if it changes, it means the proces died and respawned
[18:16] <nomadist> oh it is changing very fast
[18:16] <nomadist> I am using ps -aux | grep phantomjs to get the PID
[18:17] <nomadist> and then using the PID in the command you wrote down
[18:17] <revo> ust done run unity and my xubuntu has change to ubuntu ... how do i revert this back
[18:17] <nomadist> Sh3r1ff, before I wrote it it was- root      1468  0.0  0.1  11744   924 pts/5    S+   13:16   0:00 grep --color=auto phantomjs
[18:17] <nomadist> now it is root      1475  0.0  0.1  11744   920 pts/5    S+   13:17   0:00 grep --color=auto phantomjs
[18:18] <Sh3r1ff> nomadist: that's your grep phantomjs, not the actual proces phantomjs
[18:19] <spigot> I have two serial ports on a PCI card that appear during boot, but all I get is an error indicating there is no serial port at the address whenever I try to use them.
[18:20] <spigot> they're both recognized to the pnp IRQ the card shares, 8250 IRQ sharing is enabled in the kernel
[18:20] <revo> just done "run unity"  from xubuntu has apperance changed to ubuntu ... how do i revert this back to its original xubuntu scheme?
[18:21] <xangua> restart yout session
[18:23] <Sh3r1ff> revo: kill unity
[18:23] <revo> where do i write this command?
[18:24] <Bashing-1m> .win 1
[18:24] <acovrig> I'm trying to install ubuntu server on an xserve1,1; it doesn't see any installation medium I try using, mini.iso (CD or USB (unetbootin)), the amd64+mac iso (USB-unetbootin), any ideas why?
[18:24] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, I'm curious if any of you have gotten chivalry medieval combat to work on ubuntu. For the longest time whenever I would try to install it, steam would say, "Sorry, this game doesn't work on this platform (linux)". However, today I tried and it installed fine. When I try to run it, it says, "failed to start game (missing eecutable)".
[18:25] <Scriptonaut> it told mde to update drivers, so I did (to nvidia 331.113 or something)
[18:25] <Scriptonaut> however still doesn't work. I'm on 12.04, I wonder if that could be the problem
[18:29] <spigot> I know everyone uses 9-pin serial ports on an expansion PCI card these days, so there should be suggestions from everybody... :)
[18:29] <Sh3r1ff> revo: in a terminal ;)
 done kill using system monitor, but didnt go back to normal
[18:29] <spigot> Scriptonaut: a missing executable given as a reason it doesnt run seems pretty specific- are you running 32 or 64 bit?
[18:29] <revo> terminal is asking for pid
[18:29] <Sh3r1ff> revo: try ctrl+ alt + backspace to reload your session
[18:29] <revo> bash: kill: unity: arguments must be process or job IDs
[18:29] <revo> no luck
[18:29] <revo> nothing happen
[18:29] <Sh3r1ff> revo: ps -ef | grep unity , copy the pid and then kill <pid>
[18:31] <Martijn-NL> Hi Ubuntu friends - i'm looking for an automatic script for blocking on the internet black listed ip's for iptables. Anyonone?
[18:31] <revo> i have kill all unity process running but still no luck
[18:31] <Scriptonaut> spigot: 32 bit
[18:32] <Sh3r1ff> revo: log off and back on again
[18:32] <Bashing-om> revo: Am I missing something here, or can you not choose which session to use at the user login GUI box ( icon in upper right corner of the login box) ?
[18:32] <Scriptonaut> it seems to be a somewhat common error according to google
[18:32] <revo> no, i have downlowed unity teak tool from software centre using xubuntu
[18:33] <revo> i then click on "run unity"
[18:33] <revo> and it change desktop to ubuntu
[18:33] <spigot> your best bet is probably to find a steam forum post or some other indication somewhere on the net that the game is actually available on linux, maybe even see if the penguin appears on the store page for the game under available platforms
[18:33] <revo> for some reason i was under impression that a window would open for me to select my theme
[18:33] <revo> but insteadt it just changed this to ubuntu appearance
[18:35] <xangua> revo: you can use xfce settings-appearence to change your theme; you didn't need ubuntu tweak
[18:35] <th3_mol3> how do I find out which desktop environment I'm running?
[18:35] <Bashing-om> revo: Sorry, I have never used " unity teak " . I have no idea what the effect would be .
[18:35] <revo> everything has change to ubuntu default, even the log in
[18:36] <revo> dont know my way round now
[18:36] <revo> how do get back to xfce setting-appearance
[18:36] <spigot> Scriptonaut: looks like it's been added to the steamdb but its only 64bit and not released yet. especially considering the only platform listed on the store page is windows http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/chivalry-medieval-warfare-looks-closer-to-a-linux-release.4577
[18:36] <Scriptonaut> oh, well looks like it's time to reformat and install 64 bit
[18:37] <Bashing-om> th3_mol3: Try -> echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP <- .
[18:37] <Scriptonaut> spigot (or anyone else). Do any of you know if games that run on ubuntu will run on debian?
[18:37] <th3_mol3> ty Bashing-om
[18:37] <Scriptonaut> they're pretty damn similar, but I much prefer debian
[18:38] <Sh3r1ff> Scriptonaut: ubuntu is debian based, so i would say yes, if all dependencies can be met on debian
[18:38] <Scriptonaut> My only worry is debian tends to take a lot longer to update
[18:38] <Scriptonaut> to release updates**
[18:38] <Scriptonaut> I guess this is the type of thing I should ask in #debian
[18:39] <spigot> Scriptonaut: if you're going to run debian you might as well run steamos which is built on debian like ubuntu
[18:39] <squinty> yep
[18:39] <Scriptonaut> Steamos is built on debian? TIL
[18:39] <aFeijo_> hi folks, I mounted a webdav (box.com) account, I can create a file, save it, delete using vim. But it wont work for copying files! I try with cp and scp, it return an error: input/output error, what can I do?
[18:40] <spigot> Scriptonaut: you can enable debian repositories after the install. it's basically just debian with some bleeding edge drivers, a kernel tweaked for gaming and their own autoupdate scripts. but games that run on ubuntu will usually run on debian, yes.
[18:40] <Scriptonaut> ah, thanks
[18:42] <blendo> hi all
[18:42] <revo> ok ,so i removed unity tweak tool and restarted, all is back to normal
[18:43] <Obiwantje> Guys - I got a weird issue - am on 14.10, kernel 3.13.0-30-generic
[18:43] <Obiwantje> tried to update to 3.16.0-29 - installed OK
[18:43] <Obiwantje> rebooted
[18:44] <Obiwantje> get back to 3.13
[18:44] <Bashing-om> revo: default: The directory where Xfce stores the configurations of the panel is " /home/user/.config/xfce4/panel/ " . Just erasing it and loging out and in will restore the defaults configurations that your distro ships in.
[18:44] <entropius> I have a question involving incredibly slow SSD performance on a new laptop (2 MB/sec) and was wondering if anyone could help; there seems to be an IRQ conflict between the SSD and the Nvidia GPU, although I'm not sure if that is the problem.
[18:44] <squinty> aFeijo_:  check your file sizes you are trying to copy and then check the largest size you can upload per your account on box.com
[18:45] <aFeijo_> squinty, all under the max size, backup files under 50mb
[18:45] <aFeijo_> squinty, it worked for ages in my previous server
[18:45] <revo> ba thx, but i have changed the settings back to wr i left, i just wan now to install a transparent theme but finding this task xtremelly complicated
[18:46] <squinty> Obiwantje: update-grub
[18:46] <xangua> revo: transparent theme? you can set composite and transparency in Windows settings
[18:47] <revo> xangua,  was trying to acheive this result ... http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/how-to-install-oxygen-transparent-style.html
[18:47] <Bashing-om> revo: I run xfce4, I am aware of some sites to get new themes, but I do not know how that would translate to Xubuntu at large .
[18:48] <xangua> revo: you are using xfce...not kde, are you¿
[18:48] <revo> xfce...how do i make sure of it?
[18:48] <revo> is there any terminal command i wrtie to chk ?
[18:49] <xangua> and I wouldn't follow a guide from 4 years ago either
[18:49] <revo> xangua,  i was following this tutoriaal because it also shows how to remove in case i need to
[18:50] <Bashing-om> revo: what returns: -> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION , echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP <- .
[18:50] <revo> ba xubuntu , echo XFCE
[18:51] <revo> xubuntu , echo XFCE
[18:54] <dman79> anyone know why gnu debugger (gdb) would suddenly start ignoring the disable-randomization setting?
[18:54] <Bashing-om> revo: UnGood check that you are typing that '$" as should be " echo $DESKTOP_SESSION >> xfce " .
[18:54] <revo> Bashing-om,  any ideas ?
[18:55] <revo> just comes back with xubuntu
[18:55] <revo> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION >> xfce
[18:56] <revo> doesnt return anything back
[18:56] <revo> only echo $DESKTOP_SESSION return - xubuntu
[18:56] <Bashing-om> revo: Now that is a good thing. I know that Xubuntu relies on xfce, but how much I do not know. If ya use xfce guidelines to install a theme, I do not know how apt it would be .
[18:58] <revo> isnt there an application that can install themes automatically...this is just to frustating
[18:58] <revo> i hardly know any terminal commands
[18:59] <mdoge> that's linux revo :)
[19:00] <HomelessSanta> Hello all, I was wondering if I can remap the Super Key for Unity's Dash to another keyboard shortcut instead of having to use the default shortcut key.
[19:00] <BaconBacon> Yeah, the CLI should be the first thing you become comfortable with in linux..
[19:00] <revo> mdoge, yeah i guess its the only way to learn, just hope i dont die before i can master this OS
[19:00] <revo> grrrr
[19:01] <HomelessSanta> Hehe learning the terminal won't be to hard don't give up revo. :)
[19:01] <mdoge> revo: i have been using linux for 10 years and i am still learning everyday.
[19:01] <mdoge> i dont think you can know everything :)
[19:01] <revo> didnt want to install windows, but i guess, for now its i i will do
[19:01] <Bashing-om> revo: There is, I expect, several themes installed, that from the settings tool onne can pick annd choose from. Other wise one downloads a particular theme ( do you trust that source ??) and installs it to a particular directory .
[19:02] <revo> when u say trust, is someone gonna hack into my pc ?
[19:02] <revo> if i install some regular theme
[19:02] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[19:02] <revo> was under impression linux dont have virus
[19:03] <jadew> hey, how can I figure out why the network isn't working?
[19:03] <dw1> its not as targeted but it can be
[19:03] <HomelessSanta> Linux has malware but it isn't out in the wild as Windows is.
[19:04] <HikaruBG> when I create a [Desktop Entry] file Type=Link on my desktop, I can't arrange it as regular [Desktop Entry] files of Type=Application
[19:04] <HikaruBG> any idea how to change that?
[19:04] <revo> gents, thx for the help...i think i just reaching "tilt" for the day
[19:04] <squinty> revo:  http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-xfce-theme-manager-0-3-6-on-xubuntu-14-10-and-xubuntu-14-04/    found by a simple google using "how to install themes on xubuntu"  and limiting the search results to the last year.  :P
[19:05] <revo> squinty,  thx m8, will have alook at it
[19:06] <HomelessSanta> I am off swoosh.
[19:08] <carlosadf> hi
[19:10] <carlosadf> I have a website server [with apache] within my LAN, for some reason, lately, when trying to access it from any other computer within the LAN, it's extremely latent. Accessing it from outside the LAN is fine. anyone have a suggestion of how to discover what's causing this or how to fix it?
[19:15] <CalebW> Can someone help me? I can't login to my desktop. The screen locks up at the background and mouse.
[19:17] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Refresh my memory . Hybrid grahics here ?
[19:18] <Prezident> I dont understand the problem.
[19:18] <Prezident> You mean you are in a loop when you trying login?
[19:18] <CalebW> Bashing-om: No just intel
[19:19] <Crell> Bashing-om: I believe a hybrid graphics card is one that doesn't have its own memory but reuses the main system memory.
[19:19] <Crell> Common in mid to low end systems with onboard video to save money.
[19:19] <squinty> no
[19:19] <CalebW> Prezident: When I try to log in, nothing happens. All that shows up is the background and the mouse nothing else loads
[19:19] <Prezident> what happens if you do ctrl+alt+t terminal starts?
[19:20] <Prezident> You have it connected to 1 monitor or two?
[19:20] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Intel graphics "just work" out of the box . Is a driver loaded ? -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- .
[19:20] <Kweerox> Hi. I have dualboot and want that GRUB2 won't be displayed during booting. How is this possible?
[19:20] <Crell> Bashing-om: Hm, or it's that combined with a discrete?  Interesting: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/hybrid_graphics
[19:20] <HikaruBG> Guys - anyone who can help with the Desktop Shortcuts problem?
[19:20] <ikonia> Kweerox: dual boot what, linux/linux, windows/linux
[19:20] <HikaruBG> when I create a [Desktop Entry] file Type=Link on my desktop, I can't arrange it as regular [Desktop Entry] files of Type=Application
[19:21] <cryptodan> hybrid is one that uses an intel card for low end stuff like email and a dedicated one for highend stuff like gaming.
[19:21] <HikaruBG> with arrange I mean - I can't drag them on different positions on the desktop
[19:21] <Kweerox> ikonia: windows/linux
[19:21] <Prezident> i guess you have a dual view and you are on the second screen.
[19:21] <ikonia> Kweerox: it will set up the auto display of menu automatically
[19:21] <Prezident> you can move mouse outside the box?
[19:22] <squinty> Kweerox:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2  explains it all
[19:22] <Kweerox> ikonia: Is it not possible that grub only displays if I "shift"
[19:22] <ikonia> Kweerox: shouldn't be
[19:22] <Bashing-om> Crell: Hybrid is that situation of one graphics chip (Intel) embedded to the mother board - discreet, and for performance there is another card on the PCIE . The OEMs do not give us great support . But things are looking up .
[19:22] <CalebW> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/9641812
[19:22] <ikonia> Kweerox: dual boot system needs the menu to select which option, so it normally defaults to menu 10 second delay (or something like that time)
[19:23] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Look'n at yopur paste.ubuntu.com/9641812 .
[19:24] <Prezident> Can you move outside the monitor CalebW might be a really easy solotion, i had same prob
[19:24] <Prezident> to see if you got dual view
[19:24] <Prezident> move mouse*
[19:25] <CalebW> Prezident: I'm on a laptop, I only have one screen and Ctr+Alt+T does nothing.
[19:26] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Well, you do have a driver loaded " configuration: driver=i915 " .. Humm .. we get any thing reported when you start the GUI from terminal ? - at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 ; login here with username and password; terminal command -> sudo service lightdm start <- what results ?
[19:26] <Prezident> try sudo xrandr --output LVDS1 --off
[19:27] <CalebW> Bashing-om: "Job already running"
[19:28] <Obiwantje> So I redid thing - did  update-grub
[19:28] <Obiwantje> but it still comes back with kernel 3.13
[19:28] <Obiwantje> In advanced options during boot I do NOT see the 3.16 kernel either
[19:29] <Bashing-om> CalebW: K, when ya get caught up with all the advise, reboot and try again to terminal and from terminal initially start the GUI ( looking for reported errors ) .
[19:29] <Obiwantje> I can't figure out what on earth is causing this thing to stay on a (partially unistalled it looks) kernel 3.13
[19:30] <DaisyLee2010> I'm looking into installing Ubuntu 14.04.1 onto my PC but would like to know if I should go ahead and just throw 14.10 on there. The release notes don't paint a clear picture of the benefits (if any).
[19:30] <DaisyLee2010> Any suggestions?
[19:30] <EriC^^> CalebW: type DISPLAY=:0 ccsm , check if the unity plugin is enabled
[19:30] <CalebW> Bashing-om: shouldn't there be a log from the GUI somewhere?
[19:30] <entropius> I am getting incredibly bad (2 MB/sec) SSD performance, and believe it is because the SSD and my GPU have landed on the same IRQ. There is no option to change this in the BIOS/EFI. Is there any way to fix this?
[19:31] <CalebW> EriC^^: Say's it can't open Display
[19:31] <EriC^^> CalebW: ok, can you login using your guest account?
[19:31] <entropius> Also, my new laptop's wifi is hardblocked (on rfkill) no matter what I do, and there is no physical switch. Are there any ways to fix this? Laptop is going back to the maker if I can't fix this soon.
[19:31] <EriC^^> CalebW: type sudo service lightdm restart
[19:31] <squinty> DaisyLee2010:  04 is LTS (5 years support) .10 is 6 months (iirc).   there should be a listing on the main site
[19:31] <Guest56825> @DaisyLee2010 i have it on my laptop and really like it so far. What are you coming from?
[19:33] <DaisyLee2010> Guest56825: I'm coming from Windows 10. I used to use Linux a lot but fell out of the game.
[19:33] <CalebW> The guest account was removed from the login screen, but all of the other users are affected. restarting lightdm takes me back to the login screen, but when I login nothing appears.
[19:33] <CalebW> -EriC^^
[19:34] <EriC^^> CalebW: ok, try to reinstall unity maybe, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop compiz
[19:34] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Something to check; out os partition space . what returns -> df -h , df -i <- ? Then we look and see what the release the system thinks is, and what kernels are installed .
[19:35] <Guest56825> Nice! WIndows 10 was MUCH better than 8 or 8.1
[19:35] <Guest56825> I really like 14.04 so far
[19:35] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, not sure I quite got this
[19:35] <Guest56825> was set on Arch but couldnt get it (or any flavor besides Ubuntu) installed
[19:36] <squinty> Guest56825:  keep it on topic for ubuntu help please
[19:36] <Obiwantje> $ uname -r
[19:36] <Obiwantje> 3.13.0-30-generic
[19:36] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Small steps, space constraints ? -> df -h , df -i <- will tell .
[19:36] <Guest56825> @squinty how do I target a user specifically? Just the @
[19:36] <Obiwantje> $ df -h
[19:36] <Obiwantje> Filesystem                   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[19:36] <Obiwantje> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root   91G   30G   56G  35% /
[19:36] <Obiwantje> none                         4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[19:36] <Obiwantje> udev                         9.8G  4.0K  9.8G   1% /dev
[19:36] <Obiwantje> tmpfs                        2.0G  2.1M  2.0G   1% /run
[19:36] <unopaste> Obiwantje you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:37] <squinty> Guest56825:  just type their nick.  or your client may support double clicking on their nick and then pasting
[19:37] <drdozer> hi - I've broken x somehow and could do with a bit of help getting it working again
[19:37] <CalebW> Didn't work -EriC^^
[19:37] <drdozer> it all went wrong when I followed the instructions for apt-getting nvidia cuda drivers
[19:37] <Bashing-om> !paste | Obiwantje
[19:37] <squinty> Guest56825:  suggest  you change your nick for easier response to you too.   /nick newnickhere  :)
[19:38] <Obiwantje> sorry about that !
[19:38] <Obiwantje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9641886/
[19:38] <CalebW> Bashing-om: How do I see the kernel output during boot?
[19:38] <dman79> anyone know why gnu debugger (gdb) would suddenly start ignoring the disable-randomization setting?
[19:38] <Guest56825> squinty thank you much!
[19:38] <squinty> testingthingsout:  yw
[19:39] <Bashing-om> CalebW: terminal command -> uname -r <- .
[19:39] <penthief> 
[19:40] <CalebW> 3.13.0-43-generic -Bashing-om
[19:40] <Bashing-om> CalebW: You want to see the boot messages ?
[19:40] <Obiwantje> sorry about that guys - I should KNOW better! - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9641886/
[19:40] <CalebW> Yes
[19:40] <RNeville> testingthingsout: funny nick!
[19:40] <Obiwantje> here is the output of both Bashing-om
[19:40] <ararob> lol
[19:41] <squinty> CalebW:  at the grub boot menu ->  back arrow on the Boot Options line to "splash quiet" and backspace or del those two words.  (that will display all the various files being loaded after the boot process has started rather than just the splash screen).
[19:41] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Maybe, sometime the scroll lock key will pause the output, sometimes key combo ctl+s , and to resume ctl+s . try and see IF either is effective .
[19:41] <squinty> CalebW:  you can also change it to permanent by editing your grub config file
[19:42] <CalebW> Ok, I'll go see if there's anything unusual during boot.
[19:42] <cpika> drdozer: did you remove all previous nvidia drivers before installing cuda?
[19:43] <mobile> join #mistic
[19:43] <squinty>  /join
[19:43] <mobile> lol thanks
[19:43] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: encrypted file system " /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root " ??
[19:44] <drdozer> cpika: no - I think I was running nouveau prior to that
[19:45] <Stripes__> hello?
[19:45] <cpika> drdozer: to be sure, you could run a `sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-*`
[19:45] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om> Obiwantje: encrypted file system " /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root " ?? <-- no clue what that is
[19:45] <Stripes__> hello i need help with grub rescue
[19:46] <squinty> !details | Stripes
[19:46] <drdozer> cpika: that seems to have done a lot - I should reboot now? It touched my kernel I think
[19:46] <cpika> drdozer: well, after having removed the old nvidia stuff, I think it would be best to reinstall cuda
[19:47] <cpika> drdozer: i don't know if you can just repeat the installation procedure
[19:47] <squinty> Stripes:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting   is a good place to start
[19:47] <MelvinPro> Heyy
[19:47] <Stripes__> So I installed Ubuntu, but wasn't happy with it. I wanted to retrurn to windows 7 but couldn't find a solution to uninstall ubuntu and install windows again with the disk. So out of frustration I clicked reformat :C and then it obviously crashed. But now I'm stuck in Grub Rescue how do I get back to windows from here?
[19:48] <CalebW> Well, the only thing that failed was "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Service"
[19:48] <drdozer> cpika: OK, I now get the graphical login page, but on trying to log in it drops me back to the login page, so lightdm is failing
[19:48] <Stripes__> So I installed Ubuntu, but wasn't happy with it. I wanted to retrurn to windows 7 but couldn't find a solution to uninstall ubuntu and install windows again with the disk. So out of frustration I clicked reformat :C and then it obviously crashed. But now I'm stuck in Grub Rescue how do I get back to windows from here?
[19:48] <squinty> Stripes:  access your Windows recovery partition or recovery disks.  you need to ask in a Windows related channel though for further details
[19:48] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Is there a way to see a log of an attempted login?
[19:49] <Stripes__> do you have a link to get there?
[19:49] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: well, let's check then if this system is encrypted ; terminal command -> pastebinit /etc/fstab <- . So I have an idea of the difficulty level here .
[19:49] <squinty> Stripes__:  and stop spamming the channel with the same question please
[19:49] <Stripes__> srry accidentally hit the up key
[19:49] <squinty> !alis | Stripes
[19:49] <cpika> drdozer: you've already reinstalled cuda?
[19:50] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9641933/
[19:50] <cpika> drdozer: if not, it's better to stop lightdm before installing
[19:50] <drdozer> cpika: no I just ran the purge command you said and rebooted - it now is using nouveau and gives me a graphical login screen, but won't launch lightdm
[19:51] <andreas> hello! I have problems gettign audio to work with Chrome. It works with firefox and other applications, but I need it work with chrome.
[19:51] <cpika> drdozer: okay, then log into a tty, e.g. by alt+f1; there, stop lightdm and kill X: `sudo service lightdm stop` and `sudo killall Xorg`. then, from the terminal, reinstall cuda
[19:51] <andreas> I mean audio through HDMI
[19:51] <Stripes__> this is way too complicated is there someone who can provide a link or who can guide me step by step
[19:52] <CalebW> Bashing-om: I was reading something about the libgl1-mesa-dri package...
[19:52] <Bashing-om> CalebW: What the booting is can be looked at in the log files /var/log/kern.log , syslog and dmesg .
[19:53] <drdozer> cpika: all the cuda packages are nvidia-driver specific
[19:53] <drdozer> cpika: so that would mean re-installing the nvidia drivers, right?
[19:53] <squinty> Stripes__:  you can also use your irc client to search the channels.  for example in xchat or hexchat, click on Server -> list of channels > search
[19:53] <cpika> drdozer: maybe... it probably depends whether you install cuda from some .deb file or from source
[19:54] <drdozer> cpika: from apt
[19:54] <cpika> drdozer: from which repository?
[19:55] <Stripes__> don't see "server" anywhere on this page?
[19:55] <drdozer> cpika: not entirely sure - presumably which ever one is on by default - I hadn't enabled a ppa
[19:55] <squinty> Stripes__:  quite simple really if you just use Windows recovery options (usually available at the initial computer boot screen) or Windows recovery disks
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: OH boy, we are encrypted .. OK, so what does the system think it it is -> pastebinit lsb_release -a <- .
[19:55] <cpika> drdozer: oh, okay... it's strange you've run into problems then...
[19:55] <drdozer> cpika: this system hasn't had a clean install for about 4 years, so it's not quite that strange
[19:56] <Stripes__> squinty: I insterted the disk then selected boot windows from disk but it keeps going back to grub rescue
[19:56] <Stripes__> probably because the disk isn't formatted in NTFS
[19:56] <Stripes__> is that possible?
[19:56] <squinty> Stripes__:  google   you are off topic
[19:56] <Obiwantje> Bobby_Tables, Unable to read from: lsb_release
[19:56] <cpika> drdozer: but searching online, I don't see that cuda is in any official repo
[19:56] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, Unable to read from: lsb_release
[19:57] <Stripes__> google didn't provide much, that why I got here....
[19:57] <ikonia> Stripes__: are you trying to get windows back onto your hard disk ?
[19:57] <Stripes__> yes
[19:57] <cpika> drdozer: which how-to did you follow?
[19:57] <ikonia> Stripes__: just install windows then, or use the windows recover tools to replace the boot loader with the windows one
[19:57] <CalebW> Bashing-on: I haven't found anything interesting in the logs, any other ideas?
[19:57] <ikonia> Stripes__: the guys in the ##windows channel will help you with either
[19:58] <squinty> ikonia:  already told him that
[19:58] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: My bad // try as -> lsb_release -a | pastebinit .
[19:58] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9641980/
[19:59] <Obiwantje> in command line it says: No LSB modules are available.
[19:59] <ki7rw> ubuntu 14.04 has the systemd package installed but i don't see any quicker bootup - i got the impression that systemd was suppose to boot the machine faster
[19:59] <ikonia> ki7rw: systemd is not installed
[20:00] <ikonia> ki7rw: it is a dependency for desktop packages/system packages
[20:00] <ki7rw> according to synaptic the package is installed
[20:00] <ikonia> ki7rw: it's not, it's a library set for things like udev
[20:00] <ujg555> how do i dollar sign?
[20:00] <Bashing-om> CalebW: IF it is X related .. look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log . and the session log are in your /home directory .xsession-errors . a hidden file (.) .
[20:00] <ujg555> make the*
[20:00] <ki7rw> ok
[20:00] <drdozer> cpika: so I still can't get from the graphical login to a working graphical desktop
[20:00] <cpika> drdozer: if you just want a working system back without caring about cuda, I'd suggest to (re?)install nouveau by `sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau`
[20:00] <ikonia> ki7rw: systemd is not going to make your machine boot visually quicker than it is now
[20:00] <ujg555> how do i make the dollar sign?
[20:00] <ki7rw> just another freaking thing i need to research further
[20:01] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: That do say you are utopic .. does -> cat /etc/issue <- confirm ?
[20:01] <andreas_> Hello! I am having trouble getting sound on Chrome (in ubuntu 14.04) to work sound works fine in Firefox and other programs. Chrome plays sound through laptop speakers, rest plays sound through HDMI-TV
[20:01] <andreas_> I need chrome to play sound through TV too
[20:01] <drdozer> cpika: done that - x is using nouveau, but still not getting past the login page
[20:02] <squinty> ujg555: shift 4 key on english keyboard
[20:02] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[20:02] <Obiwantje> so yes I guess
[20:02] <CalebW> Bashing-on" paste.ubuntu.com/9641996
[20:03] <ujg555> how do i make the dollar sign on ubuntu?
[20:04] <cpika> drdozer: okay, so let's remove more nvidia packages that might be in the way...
[20:04] <cpika> `sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* libcuda* bbswitsch*`
[20:04] <k1l> ujg555: depends on your keybpard layout
[20:05] <andreas_> any one? I really need HDMI-sound
[20:05] <CalebW> That may just be from me shutting down the computer though...
[20:05] <cpika> drdozer: and also try `sudo apt-get remove cuda`
[20:06] <squinty> fwiw   boinc-nvidia-cuda   (if installed)
[20:06] <drdozer> cpika: trying that ... rebooting
[20:06] <weaksauce> what changed in dns resolution from 8.04 to 10.04?
[20:07] <bekks> weaksauce: Nothing.
[20:07] <bekks> weaksauce: DNS still works as expected :)
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: What presently is installed ? ls -al /usr/src | pastebinit . Then we start lokking back and see why 3.16 is not installing .
[20:07] <weaksauce> I wish that were the case bekks ;)
[20:07] <ujg555> can some one tell me how to make the dollar sign on ubuntu?
[20:07] <weaksauce> something broke in my bind9 config and I am trying to fix it.
[20:07] <Pici> ujg555: the same way you make it anywhere else?
[20:08] <drdozer> cpika: done, same symptom
[20:08] <bekks> weaksauce: Thats no change in DNS, but a change in the bind9 config then.
[20:08] <Bashing-om> CalebW: look'n at your paste.ubuntu.com/9641996 .
[20:08] <BluesKaj> ujg555, shift +4
[20:08] <cpika> drdozer: hm. just to check, let's what's still there from nvidia: `sudo dpgk -l | grep -i nvidia`
[20:08] <cpika> +see
[20:09] <weaksauce> yeah. name resolution works fine. it's the serving up of the bind records that broke somehow. bekks
[20:10] <CalebW> Bashing-om: That's the .xsession-error
[20:10] <drdozer> cpika: that's listed some stuff - uninstalling now
[20:11] <cpika> drdozer: hm... but you've just removed everything with `nvidia*`
[20:12] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Think'n .. do look like something is crashing unity ...
[20:12] <cpika> drdozer: just try to only remove things from nvidia itself
[20:12] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, how would you suggest I proceed?
[20:13] <CalebW> Bashing-om: No, but it's not just unity. I tried Flashback(Metacity) and nothing happened either.
[20:14] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: What is installed ? in /usr/src directory ? and then we look and see what is installed for kernels in the /boot directoty . Then I want to know that the package manager is stable and in a happy state (next) .
[20:14] <drdozer> cpika: I'm seeing a bunch of things in that listing that I can't remove
[20:14] <Obiwantje> OK
[20:14] <drdozer> e.g. rc  libcublas6.0:amd64                                   6.0.37-4
[20:14] <drdozer>                     amd64        NVIDIA cuBLAS Library
[20:14] <Obiwantje> you need a list of /user/src?
[20:14] <cpika> drdozer: okay, so don't continue removing.
[20:15] <drdozer> anyway, removed what I can and rebooted, but still can't get past the graphical login into a working kde sessino
[20:16] <cpika> drdozer: go back to tty1, `sudo stop lightdm` and `sudo killall Xorg`. now, let's try `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[20:16] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642071/
[20:16] <squinty> does kde use lightdm?
[20:16] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Grasping, what returns -> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION <- .
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642071/ .
[20:17] <cpika> squinty: lightdm is now used for kubuntu-desktop as well as for unity
[20:17] <squinty> cpika:  ok   just a thought  :)
[20:17] <drdozer> done, still no joy
[20:18] <CalebW> It's empty -Bashing-om
[20:18] <cpika> drdozer: okay, then same thing again, and in addition: `sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx`
[20:19] <drdozer> cpika: no bananas
[20:19] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Not real surprised IF no desktop is started .. think'n still .. what might be going on .
[20:20] <RNeville> Does anyone watch Jupiter Broadcasting show - Linux Action Show (LAS)?
[20:20] <RNeville> I think it is very interesting!
[20:20] <cpika> drdozer: so, I think there must be something wrong with configuration files. e.g., edit /etc/modprobe.d and see whether there is something about 'nouveau'. perhaps an old nvidia setting disabled nouveau by a blacklist
[20:20] <tunafish> Hey, how to let unprivileged user configure/set vpn on ubuntu?
[20:21] <squinty> RNeville:  #ubuntu-offtopic   this channel is for support only  :)
[20:21] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Curiouser and curiousier .. the headers and kernel are in place .. what is the system trying to boot ? -> ls -al /vmlinuz >- a 1 liner that you can pste back here to channel .
[20:21] <Darknet> Bashing-om Meow
[20:21] <Darknet> Bashing-om :P
[20:21] <Darknet> skasi.
[20:21] <RNeville> no problem
[20:21] <Darknet> RNeville parakalwwww?
[20:21] <Darknet> RNeville m?
[20:21] <Darknet> ..
[20:21] <unopaste> Darknet you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:22] <drdozer> cpika: the only vaguely relevant line I cna find with grep is: modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf:blacklist nvidiafb
[20:22] <cpika> drdozer: did you grep nouveau?
[20:22] <drdozer> cpika: yes - no hits
[20:24] <cpika> drdozer: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting/ says that nvidiafb must not be used
[20:24] <cpika> drdozer: but, to be honest, I've never disabled a kernel mode
[20:24] <revo> hey all, whats the best soft to download from software centre, to extract image from windows dvd into usb stick to create live usb
[20:25] <drdozer> cpika: ok, but I'm not using nvidia and it's black-listed so I think that's not part of my problem
[20:25] <drdozer> there are no (EE) lines in Xorg.0.log
[20:25] <Bashing-om> CalebW: I do not know, but try -> reboot to the login screen, console with ctl+alt+F1 -> sudo service lightdm stop , sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm , sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter . Reboot and see if there ia any effect .
[20:26] <Bashing-om> CalebW: reboot command from terminal -> sudo shutdown -r now <- .
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: You still with me on this ? Have I lost ya ?
[20:27] <revo> Can sum1 point out soft to download from software centre - want to extract image from windows dvd into usb stick to create live usb
[20:28] <cpika> drdozer: btw what does `sudo modprobe nouveau` give you?
[20:29] <drdozer> cpika: no output
[20:29] <arcsky> A windows server you need to reboot after an windows update. how ist with ubuntu ?
[20:30] <cpika> drdozer: and any improvement?
[20:30] <Marasgeon> How to make a process (java) not to start at boot?
[20:30] <cpika> drdozer: or try `dmesg` to see whether it's loaded
[20:30] <squinty> arcsky:  probably ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:30] <drdozer> nope, no joy
[20:30] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Still nothing.
[20:31] <Bashing-om> CalebW: wow, the "dpkg-reconfigure -s " gave no error s ?
[20:31] <k1l> arcsky: for kernel updates you need to restart.
[20:32] <arcsky> k1l: oke
[20:32] <arcsky> how often comes kernel updates?
[20:32] <k1l> arcsky: there are kernel-changing-while-running-features but they are bundeld to paid support afaik
[20:32] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Oh, I didn't see that. I did " service lightdm stop, dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter, reboot"
[20:33] <revo> just resize my hdd to create another partition, can sum1 tell me when installing windows on 2nd partition do i also need to format or just leave it as "unllocated space"
[20:34] <drdozer> cpika: nothing in dmesg other than two 'new session' lines, one for the failed desktop session and then one for lightdm's login screen
[20:34] <CalebW> Should I do the "dpkg-reconfigure -s" ?-Bashing-om
[20:34] <squinty> revo:  recommended proceedure is to install windows first and then any subsequent nix OS's
[20:35] <cpika> drdozer: hm. perhaps one should look into Xorg logs, but I've never done that.
[20:35] <drdozer> cpika: the xorg logs are clean
[20:35] <cpika> drdozer: you could make Xorg more verbous
[20:36] <cpika> drdozer: e.g. (after having killed X, stopped lightdm) `startx -- -logverbose 9 -verbose 9`
[20:37] <Bashing-om> CalebW: No 0n the -s .. bad typing on my part .. lemme consider what else we can try, to pinpoint what is going on here .
[20:37] <drdozer> cpika: I think whatever the fault is, it's happening after X is up - it's somewere in getting me a working desktop - the graphical login works just fine, so x is working
[20:37] <cpika> drdozer: I don't know what's left to try out. perhaps removing nouveau and trying to reinstall the usual nvidia drivers... but then you're going in circles :(
[20:38] <cpika> drdozer: yeah, you're right, perhaps X is fine... have you installed another DE than KDE to try?
[20:38] <drdozer> cpika: no - what is the smallest one I could try?
[20:38] <cpika> drdozer: openbox perhaps
[20:39] <Bashing-om> CalebW: do you have this file ? -> ls -al /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log <- The lightdm/greeter log files might give some idea what's going wrong.
[20:39] <cpika> drdozer: `sudo apt-get install openbox` should already be enough.
[20:39] <RNeville> Maybe wrong channel, but here goes: I want to dual boot. I have two separate hd to use.
[20:40] <RNeville> I know windows must be on sda1 - if this makes sense
[20:40] <angrywombat> hi.. i have a strange error: i have a server that was originally provisioned inside my network to 192.168.1.214 (static) - i had to wipe the machine, and when i did, the DHCP set it to .207.. now when i ssh in to the reformatted machine, ssh 192.168.1.207, i get in and run ifconfig.. it reports the IP as .214
[20:40] <angrywombat> any ideas what could be causing this?
[20:40] <angrywombat> i had a tmux session setup on the machine (went in to the server room, plugging in a monitor etc).. when i ssh in to the machine using the wrong IP, i can attach that session
[20:40] <Jordan_U> revo: Windows' installer can create the partition and filesystem itself, so unallocated is probably simplest. Do be carefull when installing Windows though, it can be easy to accidentally overwrite existing partitions.
[20:41] <RNeville> Will I corrupt my Ubuntu Install (possbily) by tryint to dual boot - i.e., could I corrupt grub?
[20:41] <RNeville> BTW, I am really enjoying Ubuntu 14.04
[20:41] <drdozer> cpika: I see no difference :(
[20:42] <revo> Jordan_U, thanks, how do i get grub back on after installation...im sure windows is gonna remove it ?
[20:42] <cpika> drdozer: can you log into a guest account?
[20:42] <skao> RNeville: A new Windows installation will overwrite the grub bootloader, so what you definetely need to do is to reinstall grub afterwards most likely over a live-cd
[20:42] <Jordan_U> RNeville: It's possible that the Windows installer will overwrite grub, or in the case of UEFI make grub a secondary rather than primary bootloader (so only Windows boots by default). Either way, it's not too difficult to re-install grub if you have a LiveCD/USB on hand.
[20:43] <RNeville> Jordan_U: thx
[20:43] <drdozer> cpika: Yes, it seems I can
[20:43] <RNeville> skao: thx, as-well
[20:43] <RNeville> Even if I installation using two different hd's
[20:44] <cpika> drdozer: okay, then perhaps we have an entirely different problem. try, in a tty and after having killed X: `sudo chown YOUR-USER-NAME:YOUR-USER-NAME .Xauthority`
[20:44] <Jordan_U> RNeville: revo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot , though those instructions only cover re-installing grub for BIOS based systems.
[20:44] <Jordan_U> RNeville: You're welcome.
[20:44] <RNeville> I'm willing to use bios to pick which hd to run - at startup
[20:44] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Here's lightdm/x-0-greeter.log: paste.ubuntu.com/9642201
[20:44] <weaksauce> having a problem with bind after upgrading to 10.04... https://gist.github.com/anonymous/791887a5e339ce583fd7
[20:44] <Bashing-om> RNeville: IF you leave Window alsone on the 1st hard drive (sda) and install ubuntu onto the 2nd hard drive (sdb) then Windows Will not be effected . just make sure that ubuntu's grub (Grand Unified Bootloader) is installed to 'sdb' . set in bios to boot the 2nd hard drive ,and once booted into the ubuntu install run terminal command -> sudo update-grub <- to chainload Windows to it's boot menu .
[20:44] <cpika> drdozer: (in your home folder)
[20:45] <Bashing-om> CalebW: look'n at paste.ubuntu.com/9642201 .
[20:45] <drdozer> cpika: yay! I'm in - it was root:root for some reason
[20:45] <cpika> drdozer: strange stuff
[20:46] <valter>  irc.oltreirc.net
[20:47] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, $ sudo ls -al /vmlinuz -> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Dec 29 09:29 /vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-29-generic
[20:47] <RNeville> forgot to mention, I have encrypted my already installed Ubuntu Installation
[20:48] <revo> Jordan_U,  wr should the swap be placed...before or after the 2nd partition?
[20:49] <RNeville> I would like to unplug the sata cable on this ubuntu SSD, install Windows onto another hd - and then reconnect ubuntu hd (so no chance of corrupting Ubuntu HD)
[20:49] <Jordan_U> revo: It doesn't really matter much, and you can even opt for a swap file instead of a swap partition.
[20:50] <drdozer> cpika: thanks - I will have another go at installing nvidia drivers + opencl + cuda drivers :D
[20:51] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Anything relevant?
[20:52] <revo> Jordan_U,  i have a dvd with os, but dont have ODD available on my nettop, whats the best soft i can get from app store to extract iso image and burn/create a live usb
[20:52] <cpika> drdozer: good luck ;)
[20:53] <Jordan_U> revo: Are you trying to make a bootable Windows installer USB?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Relevant yes, something is killing unity, what I do not know .. and I do not know how to find out what is killing unity .
[20:54] <PyroYoshi> Can anyone help with including "bootonce" into grub?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: What is your end goal?
[20:54] <revo> yes
[20:54] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Well that is as should be .. so what have we at the end of that symbolic link -> ls -al /boot | pastebinit .
[20:55] <trism> CalebW: did you explore any of the logs in ~/.cache/upstart/ gnome-session-Unity.log might be interesting
[20:55] <Jordan_U> revo: Then please ask in ##Windows (they have linux experience as well, and this is more of a Windows question than an Ubuntu one).
[20:55] <revo> ok thx
[20:55] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: I have Ubuntu 14.04 and windows 8.1. I use a bluetooth keyboard on my system. Ubuntu is the primary OS and GRUB boots into it first but I can't get to the windows boot with my keyboard
[20:56] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubuntu.com/9642267
[20:56] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: I saw instructions for setting up boot once to let you restart into the secondary OS but im a complete newbie and have no idea how to do any of that
[20:57] <revo> dont seem there is any1 in that channel
[20:57] <naoufal> hi
[20:57] <I-ve-got-a-way> PyroYoshi: it is normally impossible, unless your BIOS has a full Bluetooth stack embedded in it - which would be very unlikely.
[20:57] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642277/
[20:58] <Obiwantje> this is just all so weird
[20:58] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: grub-reboot is the tool you're looking for.
[20:58] <PyroYoshi> I-ve-got-a-way: Yes I know it would be impossible to actually use the keyboard. thats why I'm trying to configure grub to restart into the secondary OS
[20:58] <k1l> revo: ask the ##windows guys how to make a windows usb without having windows. for ubuntu its easy to make a ubuntu usb no matter what OS you are on.
[20:58] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: Is that an program?
[20:58] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: It is a command.
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642277/ .
[20:59] <naoufal> hi guys can you tel me plz how can i change the "abc" in   naoufal@abc:~$
[20:59] <naoufal> *tell
[20:59] <MagicMystic> naofal: edit /etc/hosts
[20:59] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: do you have a link to an explaination for it or a walkthrough? like I said I am very new and just starting to understand terminal
[20:59] <MagicMystic> naoufal: and edit /etc/hostname
[21:00] <naoufal> it doest whork
[21:00] <naoufal> *work
[21:00] <k1l> naoufal: its called prompt
[21:00] <MagicMystic> naoufal: logout and log back in. should have changed. or reboot
[21:00] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Did you take a look at my last pastebin?
[21:01] <etronik> Hi all, need yer help! my Epson USB scanner which ran just fine under prior versions of ubuntu, now under ubuntu 14.xx I get the infamous "Failed to Scan" from simple scan. helpers ?
[21:01] <naoufal>  i user this command  naoufal@abc:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/hostname(
[21:01] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: First, configure /etc/default/grub with GRUB_DEFAULT=saved , as explained here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration , then you can run "grub-reboot foo" where foo designates what entry you want booted on the next boot (and only the next boot). The possible formats of "foo" are explained here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#default
[21:01] <naoufal> and this was the error
[21:01] <naoufal> gksudo:6233): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[21:02] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: Start by configuring your /etc/default/grub properly. The first step is to make a backup of this file that we can restore later if needed, to do so run "sudo cp /etc/default/grub /etc/default/grub-backup".
[21:03] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Yeah, with 3 DE's installed .. have you ever been able to activate the GUI desk top ? Or id this happen after installing some thing ? (.png image ?) .
[21:03] <EiEiOhh> Not sure if this is allowed here but...Is anyone interested in TeamViewer  into my Ubuntu machine to help me with sharing a directory with WIndows. Been at it for a week with no luck
[21:03] <MagicMystic> naoufal: can you drop to a terminal and type 'sudo nano /etc/hosts'
[21:03] <MagicMystic> naoufal: and 'sudo nano /etc/hostname'
[21:05] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: Okay I believe I made the backup
[21:05] <trism> CalebW: looks like you don't have 3d acceleration anymore for some reason, although i915 should work fine with unity (it will also fail to boot flashback these days because of bug 1251281 ), what were you doing before it stopped working?
[21:05] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, making any sense?
[21:05] <CalebW> Bashing-om: I have been using the desktop up until yesterday afternoon(worked fine that morning). Then I go to log in and it locks up...the only package I installed was python-visual.
[21:06] <Jordan_U> naoufal: MagicMystic: It's safer and easier to use hostnamectl to change your hostname.
[21:06] <trism> CalebW: can you share /var/log/apt/history.log with the entry when you installed python-visual?
[21:06] <CalebW> (Though it also install libboost and libgtkglex1 and libgtkglexmm)
[21:06] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: Great. Now run "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" to open the configuration file we need to edit in Gedit, as root.
[21:07] <trism> CalebW: I'm more concerned with what it may have removed
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Yeah, wierd, all is in place, and still not booting that 3.16 kernel .. how bout we try -> sudo update-initramfs -u <- .
[21:08] <naoufal> now it work thx guys :D
[21:08] <Obiwantje> oh it does not like that at ALL Bashing-om
[21:08] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: Okay I have gedit open now
[21:08] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: Change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
[21:08] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642336/
[21:09] <MagicMystic> naoufal: you get it sorted out?
[21:09] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U:  okay
[21:09] <MagicMystic> naoufal: here is a quick howto http://www.howtogeek.com/197934/how-to-change-your-hostname-computer-name-on-ubuntu-linux/
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Yuk, that is not a good sign then . Verify the state of the package manager -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- . there, is there an advisory for "held packages" ?
[21:10] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubuntu.com/9642344 Nothing was removed.
[21:10] <bekks> Using dist-upgrade instead of upgrade will take care of most of the packages he.d
[21:11] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, none it seems? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642353/
[21:12] <CalebW> trism: And that's the last thing I installed that day before all of the problems happened.
[21:12] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: should I save the file after editing and then?
[21:13] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: While I look at uour latestst. -> ls -al /lib/modules/3.16.0-29.39-generic-pae <- is it true this file does not exist ?
[21:13] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: Yes, close Gedit and when prompted choose to save the file.
[21:13] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, ls: cannot access /lib/modules/3.16.0-29.39-generic-pae: No such file or directory
[21:14] <drdozer> ok, so I've tried to install nvidia drivers so that I get cuda/opencl drivers
[21:14] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: Okay I closed, saved, and ran update-grub
[21:15] <trism> CalebW: nothing removed in the surrounding entries? if so my first step would be: apt-get remove python-visual; apt-get autoremove;, it's unlikely to help but it would rule one thing out
[21:15] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: Great. Now plase pastebin the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[21:15] <Taralubunt> PyroYoshi, past
[21:15] <trism> CalebW: meanwhile I'll try to break my system with that package, though it seems pretty benign
[21:15] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: You can do so by running "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg".
[21:16] <drdozer> and now x is not starting - it's detecting both the onboard intel and the nvidia card, and then bailing with (EE) modesetting(G1): drmSetMaster failed: Invalid argument
[21:16] <drdozer> and  AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for gpu driver 1 -1
[21:17] <CalebW> trism: Nope, I only installed rar the day before, but nothing was removed. Though I did uninstall python-visual after I started having problems.
[21:17] <CalebW> Since then I've reinstalled unity ubuntu-desktop compiz but nothing's worked
[21:17] <Taralubunt> ap get p.anderson
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Package manager is in a happy state .. sheesshhh ,, ok, what about -> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.16.0-29-generic-pae .
[21:18] <PyroYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642375/
[21:18] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642375/
[21:18] <Taralubunt> guten tag!
[21:19] <trism> CalebW: yeah seems to make no difference here, did you ever post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[21:19] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, it is like a circus :-) -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642388/
[21:19] <k1l> Taralubunt: stop that nonsense in here
[21:19] <Taralubunt> :<
[21:19] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642388/ .
[21:22] <CalebW> trism: I'm going to reboot, login, then post that log.
[21:23] <tunafish> I am locked out of my network manager, is there a way to reset its polkit/permissions?
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Humm .. confirm please that I have given the correct version ( I had too many windows open and closed that one out ) .. and what returns -> apt-cache policy linux-generic-pae <- .
[21:24] <Obiwantje> version seems indeed OK
[21:24] <tunafish> even with root, it says "Permissions request failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: Action org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.enable-disable-network is not registered"
[21:25] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, the command gives: N: Unable to locate package linux-generic-pae
[21:25] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: Great, now to boot into Windows only once run the following: sudo grub-reboot 'Windows 8 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)'
[21:25] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: and ill just have to do that everytime I want to boot windows?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: Yes, you can make yourself a convenience script to make it quicker to type though.
[21:26] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubuntu.com/9642414
[21:28] <Taralubunt> just installed last lts version. Do I need to install a firewall and antivirus please?
[21:29] <trism> CalebW: hmm, this doesn't look good: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Dispatch)
[21:30] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: I just tested it quickly and it worked great. Would you be interested in helping to teach me to make a script for it as well?
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Not really sure what to make of that ! .. something is lying to us somewhere ! .. ok I have a thought -> ls -al /vmlinuz.old <- . Maybe not completing that link is driving the system nuts .
[21:32] <trism> CalebW: maybe: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri; maybe the lib is corrupt somehow
[21:32] <CalebW> I've already tried that-trism
[21:32] <Maltahl> Hey i have some trouble with my Clevo W350STQ with Ubuntu 14.04. Bluetooth stopped working after updating and now i cannot get it back. i tried blueman packages but it did not work. Could someone assist me ?
[21:32] <trism> CalebW: out of curiosity, what is apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri
[21:32] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, ls: cannot access /vmlinuz.old: No such file or directory
[21:32] <Obiwantje> crazy eh?
[21:33] <CalebW> paste.ubuntu.com/9642445  -trism
[21:34] <john_doe_jr> how do u extra all the images out of a pdf?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: Sure. A bash script is simply a text file whose first line is "#!/bin/bash", the simplest bash scripts simply contain commands exactly as you would run them at a bash shell. So your script could be as simple as the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642447/
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: I do think that is at the root of the problem .. there exists no .old for grub's config files . Need to figure out how to get an old kernel installed and those symlinks re-established .
[21:35] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: To make it easy to run, we'll put it in a new specially named directory, "bin" in your home directory. To make this directory run "mkdir ~/bin/".
[21:35] <john_doe_jr> How do you extract all the images out of a pdf?
[21:35] <Novice201y> Hi. I use Lubuntu on netbook and I couldn't see SAVE button for MPlayer option (which I assume is on the button of the window). How can I save my options then?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: Could you give a quick summary of the problem you're having?
[21:37] <mladoux> http://blog.markladoux.com/2014/12/29/ubuntu-14-10-apache-2-4-php-fpm-mariadb-mysql-server-composer/ <-- I was messing around with trying to get LAMP to work the way I wanted, got incomplete data from all over the net, until I figured it out, made a guide -- works perfect for me, mileage may vary
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Thanks .. utopic, kernel 3.16 is installed but booting up trust's kernel .
[21:39] <Jordan_U> PyroYoshi: To make the script more convenient, you could have it actually reboot after changing the default with something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642482/
[21:39] <PyroYoshi> Jordan_U: Honestly I am having nothing but trouble now this this bluetooth keyboard, I think it would be easier to just keep using my wired keyboard and stop fighting with this thing
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Jordan_U paste again -> ls -al /boot <- .
[21:40] <Maltahl> Hey i have some trouble with my Clevo W350STQ with Ubuntu 14.04. Bluetooth stopped working after updating and now i cannot get it back. i tried blueman packages but it did not work. Could someone assist me ? Im willing to wait many hours for reply
[21:41] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642504/
[21:42] <sheer> Hi. I installed Ubuntu just yesterday. When I booted up this morning, I got a message saying there's been an error, and I was asked to report it. Also, I can't seem to be able to load Runescape on the browser. Any ideas? Thank you.
[21:42] <theadmin> sheer: For the Runescape problem: you need Java, I think.
[21:42] <theadmin> sheer: sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin
[21:42] <sheer> theadmin: i believe I have java
[21:42] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Note no trusty kernel there .. what results -> uname -r <- .
[21:43] <trism> CalebW: how about: apt-get install --reinstall libglapi-mesa;
[21:43] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, 3.13.0-30-generic
[21:43] <trism> CalebW: that appears to be where the missing symbol is
[21:44] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Obiwantje :: ^^ makes absolutely no sense to me .. how can this be ?
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: Did you install Ubuntu onto a physical machine under your control, or is this a hosted Ubuntu installation?
[21:45] <sheer> Jordan_U: The first one, I think
[21:45] <CalebW> Ok, I reinstalled it, I'm going to reboot. -trism
[21:46] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, local here
[21:46] <Obiwantje> me
[21:46] <sheer> oh you weren't asking me sorry
[21:46] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: How did you reboot to try to boot into the newer kernel?
[21:47] <Obiwantje> sudo reboot
[21:48] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, ^^
[21:48] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Obiwantje
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: Please run boot info sript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[21:49] <l0rdn1x> Why does my bluetooth adapter explode in my DMESG ?
[21:49] <l0rdn1x> It works but floods dmesg with like millions of errors.
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: My guess is that Obiwantje used to have a separate /boot/ partition at some point, and due to some confusion now has two /boot/ directories, one with the newer kernels and grub.cfg, and another with the old (and grub is still configured to read its grub.cfg from the old one).
[21:50] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, I will do so
[21:51] <CalebW> trism: Didn't work...paste.ubuntu.com/9642546 <-- cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep .so
[21:51] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Now that do make some amount of sense .. this install is now encrypted .
[21:51] <guite> Hi everyone, I’m currently trying to use openCL on my computer with ubuntu 14.04
[21:51] <guite> it’s really hard :)
[21:51] <guite> my error so far is :
[21:52] <guite> X server found. dri2 connection failed!
[21:52] <guite> Trying to open directly...Device open failed
[21:52] <trism> CalebW: anything missing in: ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so; ?
[21:52] <guite> I installed beignet, I have an nvidia geforce 840 M and a intel gpu haswell integrated etc…
[21:53] <guite> there is no way I can use a sample code just to find my devices
[21:53] <CalebW> For some reason I have both i915.so and i965.so...
[21:54] <daftykins> guite: ah so are you using nvidia-prime ? did you install proprietary drivers?
[21:54] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubuntu.com/9642575
[21:55] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, Bashing-om -> bootinfo output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642576/
[21:55] <trism> CalebW: theres your problem right there: libdrm_intel.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libdrm_intel.so.1 (0x00007f623ffc5000)
[21:55] <trism> CalebW: did you build or install something in /usr/local/lib lately?
[21:55] <etronik> how can one handle/install  .rpm files under ubuntu14 ?
[21:55] <guite> daftykins: At first (when I installed my ubuntu) I installed nvidia-prime…
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: How many hard drives do you have?
[21:56] <CalebW> trism: I don't think so
[21:56] <k1l> etronik: you look for .deb in the first place. what program is it?
[21:56] <guite> daftykins: then I had this openCL problem and installed nvidia proprietary drivers
[21:56] <daftykins> etronik: well, why try and use them at all? can't you get the software you want in the proper format?
[21:56] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, quite a few - all ZFS but boot
[21:56] <trism> CalebW: ls /usr/local/lib; out of curiosity
[21:56] <daftykins> guite: i'm not following you, it worked before?
[21:56] <Maltahl> Hey i have some trouble with my Clevo W350STQ with Ubuntu 14.04. Bluetooth stopped working after updating and now i cannot get it back. i tried blueman packages but it did not work. Could someone assist me ?
[21:56] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, 30-40?
[21:56] <guite> daftykins: no, never tried before today
[21:57] <etronik> k1l, daftykins : no, I can't get .dbe for the specific epson scanner driver ... only .rpm or .tgz
[21:57] <guite> daftykins: I mean, OpenCL never worked
[21:57] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubuntu.com/9642583
[21:57] <etronik> dbe = deb
[21:57] <guite> daftykins: but nvidia drivers seemed to be correctly installed
[21:57] <heinrich> alguien que escriba en español?
[21:58] <daftykins> guite: have a read of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to check
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts and /etc/fstab.
[21:59] <CalebW> heinrich: va a #ubuntu-es
[21:59] <guite> daftykins: nothing written about opencl
[21:59] <daftykins> guite: no but you can check out your DRI2 error and see whether the drivers are happy :)
[21:59] <trism> CalebW: okay I would mv all the top-level libs there to another temporary directory and then reboot and see if you get a session
[21:59] <EriC^^> etronik: if you must, sudo apt-get install rpm
[21:59] <EriC^^> !rpm | etronik
[22:00] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Jordan_U :: reading the boot-info script . be a while .
[22:00] <EriC^^> !info rpm | etronik
[22:00] <trism> CalebW: although you could just try /usr/local/lib/libdrm_intel.so.1 alone
[22:00] <guite> daftykins:
[22:00] <guite> [    37.793] (II) Loading sub module "dri2"
[22:00] <guite> [    37.793] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
[22:00] <guite> [    37.793] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in
[22:00] <trism> CalebW: but there may be more issues there
[22:01] <CalebW> So I mv all of the *.so to a bk dir ?
[22:01] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, Bashing-om : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9642602/
[22:01] <trism> CalebW: yeah, rather than just delete them because we don't want to break your system further
[22:01] <guite> daftykins: I don’t even know if this is an error >_<
[22:02] <k1l> etronik: alien. but i am not sure if that works as expected with driver stuff
[22:02] <trism> CalebW: though most important is /usr/local/lib/libdrm_intel.so.1 you could just try that alone first if you wanted
[22:02] <tunafish> I am locked out of networkmanager, even as root, (32) Not authorized to control networking. easy way to fix this?
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: sudo mount /boot/ #Now you should see the /boot/ directory you have actually been booting from
[22:02] <pasquale> iron man
[22:02] <CalebW> Just the *.so or the *.so.(1.0,etc)?
[22:03] <daftykins> guite: it's pretty obvious since at the start of the Xorg log it tells you II is information, EE is error and WW is warning. :)
[22:03] <daftykins> guite: have you read http://askubuntu.com/questions/131506/how-can-i-get-nvidia-cuda-or-opencl-working-on-a-laptop-with-nvidia-discrete-car ?
[22:04] <trism> CalebW: just: mv /usr/local/lib/libdrm_intel.so.1 /some/temp/location; then reboot, you can get more drastic and move them all if that doesn't work
[22:04] <trism> CalebW: it's got to be what is screwing you up, but we don't know why you have them there, otherwise I would say just delete them all
[22:05] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, Bashing-om: sudo mount /boot/ -> mount: can't find /boot/ in /etc/fstab
[22:05] <guite> daftykins: no, I didn’t… so I need to install bumblebee…
[22:05] <daftykins> guite: hah, no - read it
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: Indeed, I just now noticed that you commented it out. Why did you do that?
[22:05] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, I don't think I did?
[22:06] <guite> daftykins: ok, thanks :)
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: Someone or something did.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: In fact you have two commented out lines for /boot/, which is even more odd.
[22:07] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, you want me to put it back in and rebooot?
[22:07] <etronik> err how do I find out if I have 14.04 or 14.10 ?
[22:08] <k1l> etronik: lsb_release -d
[22:08] <etronik> k1l, ah! thanks,
[22:08] <Dinq> quick question on running my own local repository:  i have 1 server that can reach the internet, running a mirror, and a second server inside that cannot reach the internet, using server1 as it's repository
[22:08] <Jordan_U> Obiwantje: Uncomment one of the entries, run "sudo mount /boot/", then re-install the kernel package you want, then reboot and you should boot into the new kernel.
[22:08] <CalebW> trism: didn't work
[22:09] <Dinq> i also have a package in a specific PPA repo on the mirror (haproxy 1.5.3 on ubuntu 14.04 is what i'm trying to do)
[22:09] <trism> CalebW: what is: apt-cache policy libdrm-intel1
[22:09] <tunafish> to hell with this networkmanager, I am switching to wicd
[22:09] <grilled-cheese> has anyone had any luck with zfs yet?
[22:09] <Dinq> internal server isn't seeing the new haproxy version yet........
[22:09] <bekks> grilled-cheese: People did, yes.
[22:09] <sheer> $5 to charity if someone helps me load runescape on 14.04 :) Thanks
[22:09] <etronik> now the Epson scanner thing, stopped working with 14.04, was working before, searching leads me to all sorts of confusing info ... how should I go about getting it to back to working condition  with simple scan ? TIA
[22:10] <grilled-cheese> is there a good reference out there for the sharenfs property?  I get lost in the solaris, bsd, obsolete documentation and the manpage isn't very helpful
[22:10] <ActionParsnip0> sheer: isn't it just a java app!
[22:10] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubunut.com/9642627
[22:10] <grilled-cheese> sheer: the people fund?
[22:10] <sheer> grilled-cheese: whichever you want
[22:11] <sheer> ActionParsnipi guess so but it doesn't load for me
[22:11] <sheer> an d i'm a complete linux noob
[22:11] <k1l> sheer: just state the ubuntu issue
[22:11] <grilled-cheese> oracle java or openjdk?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip0> sheer: webupd8 has a PPA for Oracle java
[22:11] <sheer> k1l: I cannot load Runescape?
[22:11] <sheer> grilled-cheese: openjdk I think
[22:11] <k1l> sheer: errormessages matter
[22:11] <bekks> grilled-cheese: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450971/zfs-on-linux-setting-up-nfs-on-ubuntu-14-04-with-os-x-mavericks-client -- the server part stays the same, since thats the Ubuntu part.
[22:11] <sheer> ActionParsnipI don't know what that means
[22:11] <ActionParsnip0> sheer: if you use TAB you can autocomplete nicks
[22:11] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U will try
[22:11] <sheer> I got no error message
[22:12] <trism> CalebW: okay so that is fine, does: ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so; show the correct libdrm_intel now?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip0> sheer: go find out, the web will tell you
[22:12] <Obiwantje> mind checking if I uncommented the right thing?
[22:12] <sheer> ActionParsnip0:  know of that, thank you.
[22:12] <sheer> find out what?
[22:12] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Wow, that was quick .. some kind of sharp are you  :)
[22:12] <sheer> sorry, few people talking
[22:12] <sheer> what am i finding out?
[22:12] <k1l> ActionParsnip0: did you see this and did it work? http://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/how-to-install-runescape-linux-game.html
[22:12] <trism> CalebW: are you sure you didn't build anything from source recently?
[22:12] <grilled-cheese> bekks: that helps if I were trying to connect a mac
[22:12] <bekks> grilled-cheese: As I said, the Ubuntu (server) pat is always the same.
[22:13] <k1l> sheer: "my car is broken" "what is broken exactly" "its broken"    that doesnt help others help you.
[22:13] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubunut.com/9642643
[22:13] <sheer> I'm aware, but I know nothing of how cars work, so I have no clue what is broken about it, it's just not running
[22:13] <bekks> grilled-cheese: And even the mount command on the client (if you are using Ubuntu there) is the same, too.
[22:13] <sheer> runescape won't run and i get no error message eithe
[22:13] <grilled-cheese> bekks: I used to use no_root_squash, no_subtree_check in /etc/exports and on the ubuntu client side with the same uid/gid it would map correctly the usernames
[22:14] <grilled-cheese> bekks: but now it just mounts up as root everywhere
[22:14] <CalebW> I built mesa from source a couple of weeks ago but I thought I uninstalled everything...
[22:14] <CalebW> when it didn't work...
[22:14] <trism> CalebW: nope libs are still there
[22:14] <grilled-cheese> bekks: even though the ownership on the server is set to my user
[22:14] <trism> CalebW: though it is strange that it just breaks now
[22:14] <CalebW> remove them all?
[22:14] <trism> CalebW: yeah
[22:14] <CalebW> That's what a I thought..
[22:15] <bekks> grilled-cheese: then what did you change?
[22:15] <CalebW> trism; So all of the libdrm* in /usr/local/lib
[22:15] <trism> CalebW: makes me think this isn't going to help and something else is broken, can I see: ldd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so; before you do?
[22:15] <grilled-cheese> did server rebuild with 14.04 instead of 12.4 and this time switched to using zfs instead of dmraid
[22:16] <trism> CalebW: I'm going to grab some dinner I'll be back in about 15 minutes
[22:16] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubunut.com/9642653
[22:16] <grilled-cheese> sheer: what happens if you try to launch it from the command line?  do you get any useful messages?
[22:16] <bekks> grilled-cheese: And you switched to sharenfs instead of just sharing using /etc/exports, correct?
[22:16] <grilled-cheese> right
[22:16] <gradus> hello. i am hoping for some help. i have deleted my ubuntu parition along with the grub files, now i cannot access my windows parittion. when my computer boots it just sits at a blank screen witha  single flashing cursor and I cannot type. any help?
[22:17] <sheer> grilled-cheese: it's a browser based game, so afaik that doesn't involve the command line at all
[22:17] <bekks> grilled-cheese: Try using the "old" /etc/exports approach again, and disable sharenfs
[22:17] <grilled-cheese> sheer: does it download a jar file?
[22:17] <sheer> what does happen is: I load the site, the game says: setting up graphics to suit you as it's the first time> then if I click OK, it all goes blank. And the firefox browser freezes
[22:17] <sheer> grilled-cheese: If it does, it doesn't alert me to it
[22:18] <grilled-cheese> sheer: ok, have you tried using chrome?
[22:18] <sheer> no, I'll try chrome then
[22:18] <carif_> what's the difference btwn the command line utility 'apt' and 'apt-get'/'apt-cache'? Is 'apt' considered the successor to 'apt-get'?
[22:18] <grilled-cheese> sheer: just to be sure it isn't a browser specific problem
[22:18] <Jordan_U> gradus: Do you want to re-install Ubuntu, or just get Windows booting again?
[22:19] <Chuck_Norris> sheer: it's a java game ?
[22:19] <grilled-cheese> carif_: apt-cache uses the locally downloaded information from the repos
[22:19] <sheer> grilled-cheese: gotcha. Also, I just installed this OS from scratch yesterday yet when I boot, it says an error's been found
[22:19] <sheer> Chuck_Norris: yes it is
[22:19] <gradus> Jordan_U: just get windows booting again for now
[22:19] <squinty> gradus: you need to use your Windows recovery disks or Windows recovery partition to fix
[22:19] <carif_> grilled-cheese, ty; does that mean 'apt' doesn't?
[22:20] <Chuck_Norris> sheer: sudo apt-get install icedtea-plugin
[22:20] <Jordan_U> gradus: OK. Do you have an Ubuntu LiveDVD/USB, or a Windows install DVD/USB that you can boot from?
[22:20] <grilled-cheese> carif_: apt/apt-get tie in more to the remote repositories
[22:21] <gradus> squinty: i attempted to use the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader , i ran the two commands successfully but upon rebooting i saw the same thing
[22:21] <gradus> i have an option in my boot menu simply called 'ubuntu' that i think is still attempting to boot with priority
[22:21] <gradus> Jordan_U: as well
[22:21] <l0rdn1x> nautilus[2273]: segfault at 33 ip this caused me to have to do a hardboot
[22:22] <l0rdn1x> grrrr
[22:22] <sheer> Chuck_Norris: yes. Yes, I cam see why you're called Chuck_Norris
[22:22] <sheer> can*
[22:22] <Chuck_Norris> sheer: :p
[22:23] <sheer> my primary (and only) hard drive is a WD green, is that kind of bad? as it's aimed at storage
[22:23] <squinty> gradus: see my previous comment   simplest and recommended method imho.
[22:24] <grilled-cheese> bekks: switched back to /etc/exports and it still doesn't map the zfs vdevs correctly, still wants to use root instead of the real user
[22:24] <ki7rw> that's the fourth time i downloaded and burned 14.04 disks and i still get a malformed file error message at bootup - k3b verified the written iso
[22:24] <gradus> squinty: i did that but it still is seeing something called 'ubuntu' in bios and going to a blank screen
[22:24] <grilled-cheese> bekks: that includes a restart of the nfs kernel server & the autofs client
[22:25] <sheer> Chuck_Norris: what happens this time is: I get a "Profiling.." little box come up which is new. normally it's all just blank. However.. the browser is now stuck
[22:25] <sheer> can't open a new tab
[22:25] <sheer> and it's stuck on profiling. my computer isn't old at all.
[22:25] <squinty> gradus:  then you need to access a windows related channel.  you deleted ubuntu...
[22:26] <gradus> squinty: obviously the knowledge about ubuntu is essential to fixing this problem
[22:27] <sheer> i think something is wrong. Ubuntu is running slow at times despite my computer being fast.
[22:27] <Keelious> Hello
[22:27] <trism> CalebW: get rid of /usr/local/lib/libGL.so.1 too
[22:28] <squinty> gradus:  what makes you say that?  you obviously don't know what you are doing to start with deleting willy nilly.........
[22:28] <etronik> ok so giving up on the scanner ever working on 14.04....
[22:29] <Chuck_Norris> sheer: idk, run: htop   and see if there is a process at %100
[22:29] <Jordan_U> gradus: Is this a UEFI or BIOS based machine?
[22:29] <gradus> squinty: you are aware youre in a support chat right
[22:29] <gradus> Jordan_U: bios
[22:29] <CalebW> trism libGL.{la,so,so.1,and so.1.2.0?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> gradus: And you're currently booted from an Ubuntu LiveDVD/USB?
[22:30] <bubbasaures> etronik, simple scan does not see it?
[22:30] <gradus> Jordan_U: though i believe when grub 2 takes over for the first time it implements some sort of uefi system, is that right?
[22:30] <squinty> gradus:  yes more than obviously you do.  type /topic and read plus understand. this is a ubuntu support channel not windows
[22:30] <gradus> Jordan_U: i am currently on another machine though i can boot from an ubuntu or a windows 8 usb on the other
[22:30] <etronik> bubbasaures, it does see it, but somehow fails to connect to it (I presume from the countless similar reports)
[22:30] <Jordan_U> gradus: No. You either have UEFI firmware or you don't, grub can't give your computer UEFI.
[22:31] <sheer> Chuck_Norris: i can't even open Chrome
[22:31] <sheer> I just installed it
[22:31] <Keelious> ***Error../t
[22:31] <trism> CalebW: yeah
[22:31] <bubbasaures> etronik, never had an issue here and " (I presume from the countless similar reports)" is gibberish to me. ;)
[22:31] <Qwertie> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to keep my wacom tablet keymapping after reboot?
[22:31] <guntbert> Keelious: do you need help? If so please ask a concrete question.
[22:31] <gradus> Jordan_U: the other meaning the one with the problem. for some reason int he bios i see this item called "ubuntu" which i think is a messed up version of the old partition i deleted
[22:32] <CalebW> trism: here's my /usr/local/lib paste.ubunut.com/9642705
[22:32] <trism> CalebW: oh, wait get rid of the libglapi ones too
[22:32] <bert_binary> I'm trying to get my logitech bluetooth mouse to act as a 3 button... ubuntu 14.. anyone have a solution. google didn't give me a solution that works yet.
[22:32] <Jordan_U> gradus: Please boot from an Ubuntu Live media on the problematic machine, then run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces. (I suspect that you do in fact have UEFI based firmware).
[22:32] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | gradus
[22:32] <etronik> bubbasaures, well, simple scan is even more gibberish than me, it just says "failed to scan"
[22:33] <bert_binary> mmb not working in browsers or anywhere.
[22:33] <CalebW> What about the libglfw? -trism
[22:33] <gradus> Jordan_U: its an asus mobo and the utility at boot is caleld a "UEFI BIOS" utility
[22:33] <gradus> so i guess uefi?
[22:33] <Keelious> guntbert : I have absolutely not need help but thank you
[22:33] <trism> CalebW: that's were the missing symbol is supposed to come from, in fact since you now know where most of it came from, you might want to just delete all those top level libs
[22:34] <gradus> Jordan_U: yes it is uefi im sorry
[22:34] <bubbasaures> etronik, Has before worked from what you post, have you tried it in the guest account or on a live cd of this release, What would help us is knowing what you have done if any configs were changed since you have two scan apps.
[22:34] <squinty> gradus:   and uefi is used by...... can you guess?
[22:35] <trism> CalebW: is that dri file a directory or a file? is there anything in it if it is a directory?
[22:35] <gradus> squinty: im sorry is your purpose here to antagonize people who are asking for support?
[22:35] <gradus> squinty: do the mistakes of others personally bother you?
[22:36] <etronik> bubbasaures, not tried with guest nor live CD - will try and report - but unfortunately not right now - thanks for the tips
[22:36] <CalebW> trism: /usr/local/lib/dri/ paste.ubunut.com/9642724
[22:36] <squinty> gradus: nope quite happy to give *relevant* support in the applicable channel.  guess what this is not?   end of discussion for me
[22:37] <trism> CalebW: ahh, you might want to remove the dri directory too then, although X is trying to load the file from the correct location so it might be okay there for now
[22:37] <gradus> Jordan_U: working on the log for now ill be back
[22:37] <bubbasaures> etronik, bummer when this happens, simple scan is a generic setup, I doubt epson made any changes and it is the same simple scan as always.
[22:38] <CalebW> trism: but moving the libdrm-intel.so.1 didn't fix my problem.
[22:39] <ikonia> you can't just move libraries around
[22:39] <trism> CalebW: yeah I really don't know where the problem is if it was still working for weeks with those libs, it can't really hurt much more to get them out of the way
[22:40] <trism> ikonia: he has a bunch of libs in /usr/local/lib overriding the default packages (though by my last comment getting them out of the way may not help I guess)
[22:40] <ikonia> trism: depends on why they where there and how they got there and what was using them
[22:41] <trism> ikonia: he said earlier he built mesa from source so that would explain it, though since his unity only stopped loading today, I'm not really sure...the only thing we have to go off of now is:
[22:41] <ikonia> Mesa is in the repos, so I don't know why it would be built from source
[22:41] <trism> CalebW: hmm, this doesn't look good: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Dispatch)
[22:42] <trism> ikonia: ^ from his Xorg.0.log, checking ldd on that lib showed all the libs in /usr/local/lib
[22:42] <ikonia> bad
[22:42] <trism> ikonia: I do have to admit I'm kind of out of ideas if getting them out of the way so the default libs are found doesn't help
[22:43] <ikonia> he's changed the xorg config,
[22:43] <ikonia> or worse replaced and linked the original ones to the /usr/local ones
[22:44] <sheer> hello, I am seeking assistance, please
[22:44] <CalebW> trism: what are the undefined symbols?
[22:44] <ikonia> normally caused by expecting one module , and a different one being loaded
[22:44] <CalebW> What do you need? -sheer
[22:44] <sheer> CalebW: Just installed Ubuntu. Cannot seem to be able to play Runescape (www.runescape.com).
[22:45] <sda_> hi all, I have a forward problem: First I don't want use a NAT. I set an advanced routing on my router to the second router (linux box). When I traceroute on lan2 it shows the right gateway address to reach it but then it stops. Any Idea?
[22:45] <ikonia> sheer: looks like it's flash based
[22:45] <ikonia> sda_: what device does it stop on
[22:46] <CalebW> Sheer: well I don't know much about runescape but others here might.
[22:46] <sheer> ikonia: nice to hear something new. Everyone's been saying "java".
[22:46] <ikonia> sheer: ahh it may well be java
[22:46] <ikonia> I don't play it so don't know
[22:46] <sda_> ikonia, the linux box that should redirect
[22:46] <ikonia> sda_: what do you mean redirect ?
[22:46] <ikonia> sda_: where is it redirecting to ?
[22:47] <ikonia> sheer: it is java
[22:47] <sheer> ikonia: CalebW any ideas how to troubleshoot?
[22:47] <revo> canany1 tell me what does this mean
[22:47] <CalebW> sheer: run it from the terminal and look at the output.
[22:47] <ikonia> sheer: it says "Linux no longer supported"
[22:47] <sda_> ikonia, to the second network. something similar to this situation http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linking_Subnets_with_Static_Routes
[22:47] <ikonia> sheer: http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/Minimum_requirements#Plug-ins
[22:47] <revo> You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to
[22:47] <revo> write to Launchpad or access private data.  See "bzr help launchpad-login".
[22:47] <revo> Branched 132 revisions.
[22:48] <ikonia> sda_: how are you doing the routing on the second box
[22:48] <sheer> CalebW: how do I do that? Sorry, I'm ignorant
[22:48] <sudormrf> having some major issues here
[22:48] <sudormrf> was working with beets
[22:48] <CalebW> sheer: Is it a jar file?
[22:48] <sudormrf> the tagger to tag some MP3s
[22:48] <trism> revo: it just means you are not logged into your launchpad account, you need to set up ssh keys for that, it's not an issue if you don't want to push to launchpad
[22:48] <sheer> No clue CalebW
[22:49] <sda_> i have the kernel flag ip_forwarding set as 1 and route as follow http://pastebin.com/M2VQxrdp
[22:49] <sda_> ikonia, i have the kernel flag ip_forwarding set as 1 and route as follow http://pastebin.com/M2VQxrdp
[22:49] <sudormrf> and now, from the CLI I get "bus error" when I try to LS the directory and "Segmentation Fault" when I try to reboot the machine.  any ideas what I can do?  this machine is currently remote
[22:49] <revo> trism,  i have installed conky and it comes with some themes and i just follow some ramdom instruction online
[22:49] <OerHeks> tons of info on their site, sheer http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/Linux_Native_Clients & http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/Linux_Setup
[22:49] <daftykins> sudormrf: reboot
[22:49] <ikonia> sda_: that won't route clients, that will only route the router it'self
[22:50] <ikonia> sda_: you need to setup routing rules, such as using iptables
[22:50] <sudormrf> daftykins, trying to.  " and "Segmentation Fault" when I try to reboot the machin"
[22:50] <sudormrf> as I said
[22:50] <revo> trism, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/06/conky-manager-gets-revamped-ui-new.html
[22:50] <trism> revo: ahh then it just means whatever repo on launchpad you branched will now be in the currect directory
[22:50] <daftykins> sudormrf: oh yeah, i'm kinda multi tasking :> what kind of machine is it? VPS?
[22:50] <sda_> ikonia, ok, how? what can I search? I just find NAT stuff
[22:50] <revo> trism, whats the lauchpad btw ?
[22:50] <sudormrf> daftykins, just a machine at my house that I was ssh'd in to
[22:50] <ikonia> sda_: your router will have to nat or forward for you to cross networks
[22:50] <daftykins> sudormrf: so go ask someone to kick it
[22:50] <sudormrf> daftykins, no one is home
[22:50] <jhutchins> sheer: THere's also planeshift.
[22:50] <daftykins> unlucky then
[22:51] <sudormrf> I can still ping it
[22:51] <sheer> jhutchins: planeshift?
[22:51] <sheer> i'll try that
[22:51] <trism> revo: launchpad is the site ubuntu uses for bug tracking and version control http://launchpad.net/
[22:52] <trism> revo: it also hosts many other projects
[22:52] <revo> trism,  and how do i do this  Launchpad ID, and you must do this to
[22:52] <revo> write to Launchpad or access private data
[22:52] <grilled-cheese> sheer: http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/sl=0/forums.ws?25,26,5,65329684
[22:52] <sda_> ikonia, ok, I don't wanna nat. I want to access to the second network client with their IP. How I forward?
[22:52] <trism> revo: you don't need to do that unless you want to make changes to the code and push them back, if you just want to download and use the repository you can ignore that message
[22:53] <revo> trism,  thx
[22:54] <jhutchins> sheer: It's a similar game, much more directly written to run on linux.  Runescape on linux looks like a pretty horrible hack.
[22:54] <sheer> trying that grilled-cheesethanks you're a champ :D
[22:54] <sheer> jhutchins: oh.
[22:54] <jhutchins> sheer: There's no native code, it's running the Windows or Mac code through wrappers.
[22:55] <sheer> I don't see why they don't make a linux client .
[22:55] <sheer> it runs on java, don't know why it doesn't even load on browser
[22:55] <CalebW> sheer: have you installed the icedtea plugin for firefox?
[22:55] <sheer> CalebW: yes
[22:56] <allmountainpro> phunyguy: can we get along today?
[22:56] <sudormrf> kind of worried about this
[22:56] <sudormrf> this system borked itself over the holiday
[22:56] <sudormrf> I reinstalled everything
[22:57] <sudormrf> now it looks like it is doing it again
[22:57] <sudormrf> can't ssh in
[22:57] <raulvelarde> que rollo
[22:57] <sudormrf> when I try, it says "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[22:57] <sudormrf> "
[22:58] <k1l> allmountainpro: make sure to read the !guidelines and stick to them. dont start drama here. keep this place a place for technical ubuntu support. thanks
[22:59] <sudormrf> seems like there is no way for me to restart this thing remotely, correct?
[22:59] <allmountainpro> k1l: i got trolled for asking a question
[23:00] <k1l> allmountainpro: you are about to start drama again. keep this channel clear of it. thanks
[23:00] <jhutchins> sudormrf: Start by using the -v option and see what's actually happening.  If you rebuilt it, your ssh client thinks it's a different server.
[23:01] <sudormrf> jhutchins, I was ssh'd in to it all day
[23:01] <sudormrf> it just kicked me out
[23:02] <sudormrf> jhutchins, since it is being closed by the remote host I don't think there is anything I can do locally to solve the issue, no
[23:02] <sudormrf> it said something about a read only system
[23:02] <sudormrf> something major has gone wrong again
[23:03] <sudormrf> wonder if this is a hardware failure
[23:04] <Jordan_U> gradus: I'm leaving now but I will probably be back some time tomorrow.
[23:04] <sda_> ikonia, -A FORWARD -p tcp -m state -d your_network_ip.0/255.255.255.0 --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[23:04] <sda_> ikonia, could be?
[23:05] <sudormrf> I guess I am stuck until I get home
[23:06] <sudormrf> and possibly even further than that if this machine is borked or not
[23:06] <sudormrf> maybe a failing ssd
[23:08] <CalebW> trism: Do you know how to resolve those undefined symbols?
[23:10] <trism> CalebW: did you remove those libs in /usr/local/lib and reboot? I mean, I guess it should find that missing symbol in libglapi through libGL, but if it isn't the libs you installed in /usr/local/lib messing it up I'm not sure where the error is
[23:13] <CalebW> I'll reboot right now.
[23:14] <unsecur3d> join #networking
[23:14] <unsecur3d> sorry
[23:16] <grilled-cheese> sheer: even though it is a java app, that does not mean that it is automatically portable to any platform which has a jre.  There are subtle differences, especially when it deals with OS integration that have to be explicitly handled.  Also not all JRE are created equal.  The JRE you find in a mobile device is different than what you might find in a windows desktop, which is different than the linux openjdk
[23:17] <grilled-cheese> java isn't 100% magic
[23:17] <sheer> grilled-cheese: interesting
[23:17] <sheer> sure does seem like magic to me ;)
[23:17] <grilled-cheese> there is a good bit of it
[23:17] <sheer> am I wrong to be under the impression that computers work with quantum mechanic principles?
[23:17] <k1l> sheer: yes
[23:18] <grilled-cheese> in properly built applications, it's not difficult to handle OS specifics in java apps
[23:18] <grilled-cheese> that being said, most applications arn't built with that in mind
[23:18] <londoncalling> sheer, there are some that operate using quantum principles
[23:18] <sheer> grilled-cheese: seems to me like someone's being lazy (jagex, creators of RS)
[23:18] <Guest94206> hi
[23:18] <londoncalling> sheer, but 99.9% of computers are just silicon based :)
[23:19] <grilled-cheese> there is a reason web interfaces, javascript, & html5 are taking over slowly but surely
[23:19] <CalebW> Reboot didn't work
[23:19] <sheer> hah. silicon, add a bit of a magic.. bam.
[23:19] <londoncalling> sheer, pretty much
[23:19] <trism> CalebW: is Xorg.0.log the same?
[23:19] <Guest49171> why there are "2 steams" in software center, just the steam and steam-launcher? which one should i get?
[23:21] <CalebW> trism: No, paste.ubuntu.com/9642884
[23:21] <CalebW> trism: grep for .so
[23:21] <grilled-cheese> sheer: when writing applications you're constantly under pressure to deliver and debug, also many applications start small and grow, it takes telling users no and deal with it while rearchitecting occurs, this is why it rarely happens
[23:22] <grilled-cheese> you just can't do that if they're paying your salery
[23:22] <sheer> i could understand somewhat, maybe, but with a huge company like jagex, not offering access to linux users... seems strange
[23:23] <malina> ubuntu can be so amazingly backwards, wow. anyway
[23:23] <trism> CalebW: oh that might be good: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx; then ldd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[23:23] <malina> how does one launch a cli installere for ubuntu in a chroot?
[23:23] <malina> eg. vivid
[23:23] <malina> ubiquity seems to be gone.. d-i ?
[23:24] <londoncalling> guest49171, if it is a server, install steam
[23:24] <londoncalling> otherwise, install from the site directly
[23:24] <sheer> malina can you explain what you mean about ubuntu to someone that has never used linux?
[23:24] <malina> I am not into explaining linux, and ubuntu and so on to someone who has never used it.
[23:25] <sheer> ok
[23:25] <malina> Is thee a dev channel then, if that is beyond a reasonable linux quer
[23:25] <malina> y
[23:25] <squinty> malina:  #ubuntu+1 for unreleased versions
[23:25] <malina> thx
[23:26] <squinty> !alis | malina
[23:27] <EriC^^> hey notfadsssssss
[23:27] <stale_> hey eric
[23:27] <EriC^^> hey stale_
[23:27] <notfadsssssss> erc^^: hello
[23:28] <TomAstro> Hello folks....  Being that I spent two days trying to find out about a LIRC issue i thought I would stop by here..  I am still having an issue with ir-keytable.  Can someone point me to an active IRC or group?  lirc.org is not much help.
[23:28] <stale_> i love mac n cheese :3
[23:28] <notfadsssssss> eric^^:before you ask, no luck yet... I am having a buddy take a look at the issues tomorrow whom apparently understands EFI and how to tell it to piss off
[23:29] <TomAstro> I'll just post the error just incase someone has seen this.  Couldn't find any node at /sys/class/rc/rc*
[23:29] <CalebW> trism: paste.ubuntu.com/9642905
[23:29] <Guest49171> is there no google chrome on ubuntu?
[23:29] <grilled-cheese> Guest49171: yes
[23:30] <k1l> !chrome | Guest49171
[23:30] <cryptodan> Guest49171: www.google.com/chrome
[23:30] <Guest49171> why its not in software center?
[23:30] <Guest49171> only chromium
[23:30] <k1l> Guest49171: well, get the .deb to install from google
[23:30] <TomAstro> That is it Guest
[23:30] <grilled-cheese> Guest49171: http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu-14-04
[23:30] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: oh ok, report back!
[23:30] <trism> CalebW: might try another reboot, see what happens
[23:30] <stale_> whats the app that adjusts your monitors color settings to reduce fatigue n whatnot?
[23:30] <k1l> Guest49171: ask google why they dont want it in the softwarecenter.
[23:31] <squinty> stale:  apt-cache search redshift
[23:31] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: oh trust me I will im just as curious as to what the issue is, I looked up the motherboard and raid controller seeing if there were issues that could come about from hardware as well
[23:31] <stale_> ty squinty
[23:31] <Guest49171> well it says that google chrome is commercial product but there are other commercial products in software center
[23:32] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: again thank you with your patience and help again
[23:32] <Guest49171> steam for example
[23:32] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: no problem
[23:32] <TomAstro> Google can't stop Linux users from wearing tin foil hats as in MS so we have a light version of chrome so they can't get into our heads :)
[23:32] <notfadsssssss> GUest49171: being that ubuntu is opensource I cannot imagine it supporting something like chrome despite its hyper threading abilities
[23:33] <k1l> Guest49171: ask google. if they refuse to put it there or let it be put there it doesnt matter if steam or other stuff is there. its googles decision.
[23:33] <OerHeks> chrome is based on chromium, so you have a choise
[23:33] <Guest49171> oh ubuntu has to ask for permission to put it in software center
[23:33] <CalebW> trism; It worked! dunno how it got messed up in the first place but thanks.
[23:34] <k1l> Guest49171: yes. and its not ubuntu putting stuff there its stuffs company putting stuff there.
[23:34] <trism> CalebW: excellent
[23:34] <TomAstro> Guest  Google "why Chrome is not in Linux distros.  There was an explanation some time back
[23:36] <Bashing-om> !yay | CalebW
[23:36] <londoncalling> guest49171, you don't have to download things from the software center
[23:37] <TomAstro> Any LIRC (IR Remote) experts here before I go and wear google search out some more??
[23:37] <notfadsssssss> should get use to the CLI (imo)
[23:37] <Guest49171> is apt-get install essentially the same as ubuntu software center
[23:37] <Guest49171> ?
[23:37] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, I can access boot again
[23:37] <notfadsssssss> Guest49171: its better
[23:37] <Obiwantje> and indeed I see the 3.13 kernel files there
[23:37] <k1l> Guest49171: yes. its kind of a front end to the same processes
[23:37] <Obiwantje> going to update now
[23:37] <londoncalling> guest49171, yeah but better. You can install software like you would with a windows PC. Just go to chrome.google.com to install chrome etc.
[23:38] <Bashing-om> Obiwantje: Great .. ain't Jordan_U wonderful .. That did have me in a tizzy .
[23:39] <Dinq> good evening. I have 2 servers - 1 with internet access, the other without, and I'm trying to use a PPA (for haproxy 1.5) on a local repository, but the internal-only server does not see the new version. Any ideas?
[23:39] <Obiwantje> Jordan_U, is the bomb
[23:39] <Obiwantje> I am installing 3.16.7 now
[23:39] <squinty> Guest49171:  depends on the person using any method of installing/quering software...
[23:39] <notfadsssssss> nashing-on: hey Ill let you know whatever happens I am meeting up with a friend who understands EFI better then I do and taking a look at it, I think your right about the HDD allocation SDB stuff
[23:39] <Obiwantje> that is the last one that runs ZOL
[23:39] <Obiwantje> Bashing-om, Jordan_U - thank you guys so much for being patient and helpful
[23:40] <Obiwantje> what a great community
[23:40] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: do you feel like trying something?
[23:40] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: im always game
[23:40]  * squinty wonders if there is any use for #ubuntu-server channel as very few seem to use it or know about it.  ;-)
[23:40] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: ok, boot with the live usb in, and let it drop to the efi shell
[23:41] <TomAstro> Guest49171:   Here ya go....   https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=en
[23:41] <Bashing-om> notfadsssssss: Yeah, but over my head as to the why of it .. would be interested to learn the why . Now that is getting down to the nuts and bolts and all that grease that makes this system operate .
[23:42] <Guest49171> TomAstro, yeah i found it long time ago :D thanks anyway
[23:42] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: kk
[23:42] <TomAstro> yw
[23:42] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: type mount blk0 efi
[23:43] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: arg one sec
[23:44] <TomAstro> Just wish I could find a direct answer for my issue here.  All the search engine stuff has me going around in circles  for the past two days
[23:45] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: akk
[23:45] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: device mapping table            efi    :removable harddisk
[23:46] <cryptodan> TomAstro: what is your issue?
[23:46] <XCVB> I need a cool robot name for my bot
[23:46] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: ok, type efi:
[23:46] <k1l> !ot | XCVB
[23:46] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: kk
[23:46] <XCVB> sorry
[23:46] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: ls
[23:46] <guest_> hello, i have multiple soundcards but the audio controller only controls one. how do i have it control them all?
[23:47] <stale_> fuckin magnets
[23:47] <stale_> how do they work>
[23:47] <stale_> i'm jk
[23:47] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: .disk   efi  readmen.diskdefines   autorun.inf   boot casper   dists install isolinux md5sum.txt pics pools pressed wubi.exe
 having an issue with an IR remote ir-keytable gives this error and no keymapping
[23:47] <k1l> stale_: please stick to ubuntu technical support in here.
[23:47] <TomAstro> Couldn't find any node at /sys/class/rc/rc*.
[23:48] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: ok, thats the live usb i guess
[23:48] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: yup
[23:48] <Guest49171> if same games is available on windows as well as on ubuntu does it use same amount of resources on either os or one is better? or it depends on particular game?
[23:48] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: try mount blk1 efi1
[23:48] <cryptodan> TomAstro: maybe you need to install IR Support
[23:49] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: mounted then did ls same result?
[23:49] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: type efi1: first then ls
[23:49] <cryptodan> TomAstro: http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=101151
[23:49] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: dir not found
  LIRC sees the remote under mode2 but will not see it under ir-keytable ot irw
[23:50] <EriC^^> when you typed efi1: it said that ?
[23:50] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: eric^^: no when i did ls
[23:51] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: eric^^: I am in efi1\>
[23:51] <Shirakawasuna> Hi! I'm having a problem with my installation somehow. I'm trying to use cinnamon, but I don't think that's actually causing the problem, since this problem doesn't exist on fresh installation of ubuntu 14.04.1, but does on my current 14.04.1 installation. I was able to isolate the problem to running "Gdk.cairo_surface_create_from_pixbuf" - a gtk/cairo function - which causes a segfault. e.g. if I run this file, I ge
[23:51] <Shirakawasuna> t a segfault: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9642972/
[23:51] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: yup
[23:52] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: ok, does ls EFI return anything?
[23:52] <notfadsssssss> efi1:\> ls/dir cannot open current directory - not found
[23:52] <Shirakawasuna> My question is - any ideas on how to troubleshoot this? I was able to find that it's this function that does it, but I don't know where to go from there - what to reinstall? What to delete?
[23:52] <Shirakawasuna> I feel like I probably have some leftover libraries installed on this machine that it's picking up, or something
[23:52] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: ok, try mount blk2 efi2 i guess
[23:52] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: eric^^: efi1:\>  is EFI     ls/dir: Cannot open EFI - Not Found
[23:53] <TomAstro> cryptodan:  Been there3 done that.  Real odd issue.  This should work since it sees the remotes.  I built a serial IR remote sensor active low sense, but just can't get it see the remotes from the lirc.conf files I have
[23:53] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: mount blk2 efi2       mount: invalid device mapping lk2  - Invalid parameter did i need :?
[23:53] <bubbasaures> Shirakawasuna, we don;t support ppa's here
[23:53] <Shirakawasuna> bubbasaures: it's not an issue with the ppa
[23:54] <Shirakawasuna> that script I posted uses only python-gi
[23:54] <bubbasaures> Shirakawasuna, all this is on the cinnamon desktop right?
[23:54] <TomAstro> cryptodan: I'll take another shot at that since I am using Kodi here.  It should work before I hack Kodi to work with it though
[23:54] <cryptodan> TomAstro: that page should assist you
[23:55] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: nope
[23:55] <Shirakawasuna> bubbasaures: that script causes a segfault if I'm in ubuntu as well
[23:55] <Shirakawasuna> and xubuntu
[23:55] <Shirakawasuna> and if cinnamon desktop is uninstalled
[23:55] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: that's a typo though right? lk2 ?
[23:55] <Shirakawasuna> and does not segfault on a fresh installation that has the cinnamon ppa enabled and cinnamon installed
[23:55] <TomAstro> cryptodan:  Thanks...  I'll kick that page around again
[23:55] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: oops yeah lol
[23:56] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: mount blk2 efi2
[23:56] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: is the command I send
[23:56] <bubbasaures> Shirakawasuna, well I'm not I can help, but really see no good description of the actual issue, that helps.
[23:56] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: bah sent* lol
[23:56] <EriC^^> notfadsssssss: ok, try to boot the live usb
[23:56] <cryptodan> TomAstro: also try here http://askubuntu.com/questions/440668/lirc-in-14-04-needed-for-xbmc
[23:56] <TomAstro> I went to the LIRC   IRC and it was created in 2008 and I thik the people logged in there are the same that logged in 2008.  Probably have cobwebs hanging off them
[23:56] <Shirakawasuna> bubbasaures: I posted an exact way to replicate my bug... and described that it segfaults
[23:57] <notfadsssssss> eric^^: kk
[23:57] <Shirakawasuna> bubbasaures: did you see the pastebin?
[23:57] <unixist_> I'm writing an out-of-tree kernel module that I want to make available in at least ubuntu's repo. Since a module must be built against the same kernel version that is currently running, how do I go about ensuring that the module gets built against all versions of the kernel that are available in ubuntu's repo?
[23:58] <bubbasaures> Shirakawasuna, Yeah seen the link, not something I can help on really.
[23:58] <TomAstro> cryptodan:  Thanks for your help
[23:59] <Shirakawasuna> unixist_: I haven't done it myself, but dkms might help out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS
[23:59] <unixist> Shirakawasuna: Thanks, reading