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kasadwhich is what I am about to do as well as soon as I finish backing up application conf files so I save a least some time00:14
holsteinit generally takes me about 30 minutes to install and setup back up..00:17
bazhang!info etckeeper00:17
ubottuetckeeper (source: etckeeper): store /etc in git, mercurial, bzr or darcs. In component main, is optional. Version 1.11ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 26 kB, installed size 212 kB00:17
holsteinyou also want to be careful where/how you backup what.. thats also a security concern..00:17
kasadlocal raid 10 box, no clouds and stuff00:18
revocan sum1 help03:44
revoany1 in this room?03:45
revois there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?03:45
reggie-manI'm trying to find out which process is accessing a disc.03:58
holsteinrayq_sec: ps aux lists processes..04:21
reggie-manAre you talking to me, holstein?04:23
holsteinreggie-man: ^ yup.. sorry, rayq_sec04:24
rayq_secI think so...I just joined.04:24
rayq_seclol04:24
reggie-manI can't find anything accessing the disc, holstein. How do I unmount it?04:25
holsteinreggie-man: i use the umount command or the file manager im using04:26
holsteinreggie-man: i mean, the machine can access the disc.. just running idle can make the drive spin.. assuming thats what you are talking about04:26
reggie-manThe disc is stuck in the drive, holstein.04:27
holsteinjust becuase you hear a spin or see a light doesnt mean some random, hidden, unknown process is "accessing the disc"04:27
reggie-manAlso, unmount: command not found04:27
holsteinreggie-man: having a disc stuck in an optical drive is quite different04:27
reggie-manIt isn't spinning, either.04:27
reggie-manWhat should I do then?04:28
holsteinreggie-man: that can just be physically stuck.. i'll just power down, and try physical buttons, if there are any.. little ones you can jam a paper clip in, for example04:28
reggie-manI don't think it's physically stuck, holstein. I want to see if it's mounted.04:34
holsteinreggie-man: just be sure if it is or not.. remove the disc.. if you cant, then, it can be stuck.. confirm that its not04:34
holsteinreggie-man: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount04:35
reggie-manThe button doesn't work.04:35
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/474176/where-is-my-cd-rom-mounted is also relevant04:35
holsteinreggie-man: sure.. so, since the button is not ejecting it, assuming that it is an eject button, and it usually ejects.. dont assume that some process is accessing the drive, keeping it from mounting, or ejecting.. could be other issues..04:36
holsteinreggie-man: i would start back a few steps.. has this optical drive ever worked in linux? or on that machine in any OS? do you see it in the bios? is it known-good? or something that has been sitting around and could be failing? and, what about the media.. does it mount or load or play anywhere else?04:37
reggie-manThe disc has worked in the past with Linux.04:38
reggie-manholstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9638406/04:39
holsteinreggie-man: in the recent past? and worked in what capacity? and what about the rom drive? do you see it in the bios? can you boot a live iso with it?04:39
holsteinreggie-man: sda1 is *not* the optical drive04:39
holsteinreggie-man: sda1 is likely the operating system you are using right now.. that partition.. thats why the OS is not letting you eject it.. and it cant be physically ejected.. its not the optical drive04:40
holsteinreggie-man: what is on the CD?04:40
reggie-manIt's a DVD with a movie on it.04:41
holsteinreggie-man: ok.. have you enabled DVD playback?04:42
reggie-manI could just restart my system, and that might work, but I want to know what's wrong with my drive.04:42
holsteinreggie-man: if not, then it wont work04:42
holstein!dvd04:42
ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:42
holsteinreggie-man: you are not allowed to, legally, be given access to DVD playback by default04:42
reggie-manDVD playback is not the issue I'm currently trying to fix.04:42
holsteinreggie-man: you have to add support for that, so, if you havent, please add support for that04:42
reggie-manI want to know why the disc is stuck.04:43
holsteinreggie-man: if its a DVD, and you havent added support, then, that *is* the issue04:43
holsteinreggie-man: you are assuming the disk is stuck.. its not /dev/sda104:43
holsteinthe system doesnt have any way to communicate with the data there.. not til you add the support needed04:43
holsteinit will just sit there, and not be "mounted" like a data DVD would be..04:44
reggie-manThe disc is stuck. I assumed it was /dev/sda1, but I realize it's not now.04:44
reggie-manBut the disc still should eject.04:44
holsteinreggie-man: you shouldnt assume either that its /dev/sda1 *or* that it is stuck04:44
reggie-manBut as far as I'm aware, it is stuck.04:44
reggie-manIt is stuck in some kind of way if I can't get it out by hitting the button.04:45
holsteinreggie-man: you *should*, and will need to add the support i, and the official documentation i link reference04:45
holsteinreggie-man: sure, please relax, friend.. i have seen this type of behavior, when i didnt give the software any way to communicate with the disc i put in04:45
holsteinreggie-man: please add the support for DVD's, and test that it plays..04:45
holsteinreggie-man: you'll note, if you read.. that you open a terminal, and run..04:46
holsteinsudo apt-get install libdvdread404:46
holstein*then*.. sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh04:46
holsteini would then install VLC, and test that it plays the DVD.. sudo apt-get install vlc04:47
holsteinthough, you can use whatever player you like04:47
reggie-manI am relaxed. I will install the support, but I don't think I need to just to remove a dvd.04:48
holsteinyou can reboot, as i suggested before, and eject it from the bios screens at boot04:48
reggie-manholstein: I don't believe the disc is mounted.04:48
reggie-manBut I want to know why it's doing this.04:49
holsteinreggie-man: i dont either, and never stated i thought it was.. nor that you should try to mount or unmount it04:49
holsteinreggie-man: its doing that because its got no way of communicating with the data04:49
holsteinreggie-man: its just a piece of plastic. no way of reading it. not allowed to..04:49
holsteinreggie-man: add support for DVD's, and see if it plays. .or reboot the machine and eject the DVD while its booting in the bios screen04:50
GuacaMassacreHello04:53
reggie-manI'm saying that it can't read the data if it's not mounted. The DVD does not play. I want to find out why the disc tray won't come out. It should come out even if nothing is in there.04:56
reggie-manholstein: ^04:56
reggie-manOh, I figured it out, holstein.05:01
reggie-manI just needed to find the path of the disc, and then use the eject command.05:01
reggie-manI didn't know what the path was before.05:01
reggie-manThanks for trying to help me. <305:02
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reggie-manMy next issue is playback. In VLC, the DVD plays only audio, no video. http://i.imgur.com/gkRYmGM.png In Parole Media Player, the DVD plays fine until about a minute when Parole just closes.06:04
reggie-manThe disc doesn't seem to be showing up anywhere unless I open the location (/dev/sr0) directly in VLC now.06:17
jimmydim getting boot failed error then a comand line what should i do to atempt to fix it or can i08:41
cfhowlettjimmyd, ask #ubuntu ... more eyes08:41
reggie-manMy DVD won't mount.10:56
RayneIs it possible to tame tumblerd? I hate it when tumblerd pushes other processes away to feast the juicy I/O performance alone. (99% @ iotop)11:15
brainwashRayne: maybe write a wrapper/script which utilizes ionice11:39
RayneGood idea brainwash11:43
brainwashRayne: ideally this should be optimized in the actual code, but tumbler does not seem to be well maintained at the moment11:47
brainwashthere are many bug reports which address performance and stability issues11:48
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xubuntu01whi14:34
GridCube!hi | xubuntu01w14:34
ubottuxubuntu01w: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!14:34
xubuntu01wGood morning I-m having some issues.... everytime I open the file manager no letter or characters appear only squares. The satrnge thing is that is the only app where this is happening14:35
xubuntu01wcan somebody help me14:38
GridCubexubuntu01w: try reloging and choosing a different language from the login manager14:38
mijkhey, I can't seem to create a folder called /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo16:31
mijkeven using sudo -s16:31
mijkit's even mounted rw16:31
brainwashmijk: why would you want to create it manually?16:33
brainwashalso, it won't solve your actual problem16:33
mijkI don't know, I dont' even know how to set up vgaswitcheroo, I can't find documentatino so I assume you have to do it manually16:34
brainwashwhich xubuntu version?16:34
mijk14.1016:35
brainwashdid you any boot parameters like "nomodeset"?16:35
mijkthe documentaton I find says to create a file called "switch" under /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo16:35
brainwashdid you add16:35
mijkand echo "ON" into it16:35
mijkno, just a clean installation so far16:36
mijkso I need that boot parameter to write to debugfs?16:37
brainwashI have to go afk for like 10 minutes, so I suggest you wait or ask in #ubuntu16:37
drcmijk: Are you sure you actually need vgaswitcheroo?  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/hybrid_graphics appears to suggest that "on kernels >= 3.12, vgaswitcheroo is not needed anymore to turn off the discrete gpu, only if you wish to verify the power state"16:45
drcIIRC, 14.10 uses v3.1616:47
drcnot that this answers your specific question :)16:48
mijkI can't seem to use my AMD card16:48
mijkit's always using my Intel Graphics 440016:48
brainwashdoes "cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch" return an error or the power states?16:49
mijkit doesn't even exist16:50
brainwashwhat is the output of "lspci -v"16:50
brainwash!pastebin16:50
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brainwashplease upload /var/log/Xorg.0.log also16:51
mijkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9641086/16:53
mijkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9641096/16:54
brainwashit looks the required kernel driver for the amd gpu is not being loaded16:57
mijkoh?16:58
mijkdo you happen to know which one I need?16:58
brainwashit's the "radeon" driver16:59
cfhowlett!amd | mijk16:59
brainwashprovided by the package "xserver-xorg-video-ati"16:59
brainwashis this meta package installed?16:59
mijkI thought AMD used fglrx?17:00
brainwashdid you install that driver?17:00
brainwashthe AMD driver is the proprietary one17:01
mijkI used the open sourced drivers provided by the "Additional Drivers" application17:02
brainwashthis means, that you didn't install any drivers, right? the open source ones are installed and used by default17:03
mijkoic, it's using xserver-xorg-video-ati17:04
mijkwel, I guess I'll try the flgrx driver and try again17:04
cfhowlettbrainwash, proprietary/OEM generally offers better performance17:05
mijklast time I had that installed, there seemed to be no change17:05
brainwashcfhowlett: this issue here is not a performance one17:05
brainwashmijk: but keep in mind, that doing so will disable the vgaswitcheroo interface by design17:06
cfhowlettbrainwash, I'll just watch from the sidelines then.17:06
mijkthere's no way to use either the Intel or AMD?17:07
mijkif it always uses the AMD, I couldn't care less17:08
mijkalright, here goes, reboot time17:08
brainwashit's a different solution17:08
brainwashmaybe you could select the gpu in your bios17:09
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guest_hello, i have multiple soundcards but the audio controller only controls one. how do i have it control them all?23:46
xubuntu09whi23:50
guest_hello23:50
guest_how can i help you23:51
xubuntu09wuh... who should i report to for what i think is a bug??23:52
xubuntu09wi was trying to set my keyboard to abnt2 (brazilian standard not configurable through Settingd > Keyboard) by editing /etc/default/keyboard but it wasnt working even after restart23:53
knomexubuntu09w, we track bugs in launchpad.net23:53
xubuntu09wbut then i went to Settings > Settings Editor > Keyboar-input and set it propperly now it is working23:53
xubuntu09wi m not su sure that is a bug, i m newbie in linux... just typing here so maybe someone can help me if i was just dumb.. cause i had a hard time to find out that23:54
xubuntu09wah, ty knome23:55
xubuntu09wand sorry people for my bad english :D23:56
xubuntu09whope it was minimally understoodable23:56
knomexubuntu09w, your english is fine23:56
knomemaybe people on #ubuntu-br could help you with your keyboard layout problems better, though23:57
xubuntu09wahh ty23:58
guest_ i have multiple soundcards but the audio controller only controls the volume on one. how do i have it control them all?23:59
knomeguest_, we've heard you... maybe nobody knows the answer. have you tried looking at askubuntu, ubuntu forums and other sites?23:59

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