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adi | test | 06:01 |
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KTarin | hi | 08:07 |
KTarin | perhaps you guys can help me (using KDE/Plasma since yesterday) ;D I seem to have done something to the panel - it does't show my open programs anymore and I don't find some way to change it back | 08:09 |
KTarin | I'm sure it's qute simple, but I can't find it -.- | 08:09 |
Tm_T | KTarin: you're missing task manager applet from the panel? | 08:10 |
Tm_T | widget is the term I think | 08:11 |
KTarin | Tm_T: Tried it - works :D I seem to have deleted it accidentaly | 08:12 |
KTarin | so easy and I tried for the last 30 min. Thanks for the help! | 08:12 |
Tm_T | KTarin: I tend to keep my plasma widgets locked | 08:12 |
KTarin | good idea | 08:13 |
KTarin | will do that too | 08:13 |
KTarin | thx :) | 08:14 |
shiggitay|irssi | hello | 08:51 |
shiggitay|irssi | I'm trying to install Linux (not a *buntu) onto a 32 GB SD card in my BayTrail tablet, but the sdcard will not show up under my liveUSB of choice (System Rescue, which is Gentoo Linux based) | 08:54 |
shiggitay|irssi | can anyone help me get the SD card showing up in /dev? | 08:54 |
shiggitay|irssi | it should be /dev/mmcblk1 and under Kubuntu 14.10's liveUSB I have I made a partition so I should also see /dev/mmcblk1p1 as well | 08:55 |
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Dolax | Hello Kubuntu folks! I have a problem with my Kubuntu 12.04 after installing recent updates on the KDE environment this morning. After login, the screen stays black, only the mouse is visible. Any ideas? | 10:12 |
Dolax | I can still switch to a console session using CTRL-Alt-F1 and login there | 10:19 |
Dolax | How could I find out what is wrong with my KDE since the upgrade of packages this morning? | 10:20 |
Dolax | Just noticed that there is no process kwin running, so I tried to start one. This gives "kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display" | 10:24 |
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Pornholio | sup | 12:21 |
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BluesKaj_ | Hiyas all | 13:19 |
EvilRoey | hi | 14:14 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: good morning!! | 14:14 |
EvilRoey | So the Kubuntu do-release-upgrade -d messed up | 14:14 |
EvilRoey | and thankfully I was able to reboot | 14:15 |
BluesKaj_ | 'Morning Roey | 14:15 |
EvilRoey | I ran apt-get -f install and then apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade the remaining packages, | 14:15 |
EvilRoey | but the kernel is still 3.13 (kubuntu 14.04; I am trying to upgrade to 14.10) | 14:15 |
BluesKaj_ | better to get the dailies and just install to / | 14:16 |
EvilRoey | lsb_release shows utopic | 14:16 |
EvilRoey | ok | 14:16 |
EvilRoey | but still I don't know how to complete this upgradee | 14:16 |
EvilRoey | *upgrade | 14:16 |
BluesKaj_ | updgrade to 15.04? | 14:16 |
BluesKaj_ | because upgrade -d means devel OS | 14:17 |
EvilRoey | upgrade to 14.10 | 14:19 |
EvilRoey | I did -d because it wouldn't upgrade otherwise. | 14:19 |
EvilRoey | anyway, it started upgrading to 14.10. | 14:19 |
BluesKaj_ | don't use -d for upgrading to an official release because -d will try to go to 15.04 not 14.10 | 14:20 |
EvilRoey | ok | 14:20 |
EvilRoey | thanks | 14:20 |
BluesKaj_ | EvilRoey, if you're on 14.04 and upgrading to 14.10, make sure your LTS only upgrade is turned off in the update manager | 14:27 |
EvilRoey | ok | 14:27 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: What's the command to launch the update manager? I did everything from the command-line.. | 14:27 |
BluesKaj_ | just try update-manager | 14:28 |
EvilRoey | http://pastebin.com/axh4URBC | 14:30 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: ^ I get that. | 14:31 |
BluesKaj_ | probly too late, but try updatemanager or dbus-launch update-manager | 14:32 |
EvilRoey | ok | 14:37 |
BluesKaj_ | EvilRoey, being a terminal pursit in this case is not a good idea just open the package manager and look for the update/upgrade options then uncheck LTS only | 14:38 |
EvilRoey | ok | 14:38 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: I tried. both updatemanager and update-manager crash | 14:39 |
BluesKaj_ | pk , noe try the package manager gui as I suggested | 14:40 |
BluesKaj_ | ok | 14:40 |
EvilRoey | I tried both | 14:40 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: should I just re-install? | 14:44 |
BluesKaj_ | EvilRoey, do you have separate / and /home partitions ? | 14:45 |
EvilRoey | yes. | 14:45 |
EvilRoey | on this system, yes. | 14:45 |
EvilRoey | on my home system, it's all a BTRFS partition with separate subvols for /, /home, /archive, etc. | 14:46 |
EvilRoey | on my home system I was worrying about how to cleanly re-install | 14:46 |
EvilRoey | but then I fixed it. | 14:46 |
EvilRoey | (it was a problem in ~/.kde) | 14:46 |
BluesKaj_ | then just use manual partitioning in ubiquity and format / then set the mount point for /home , but don't format | 14:47 |
BluesKaj_ | why btrfs ? it just restricts your oprions when a reinstall is needed | 14:48 |
BluesKaj_ | options | 14:48 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: sure does | 14:50 |
EvilRoey | wish I had thought of that earlier.. | 14:50 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: even more, why didn't Ubuntu consider the possibility that folks may want to re-install but preserve individual subvols | 14:51 |
EvilRoey | I mean | 14:51 |
EvilRoey | BTRFS' snapshotting makes these things much more possible | 14:51 |
EvilRoey | *feasible | 14:51 |
BluesKaj_ | EvilRoey, that's what the / and /home partitioning options are for | 14:52 |
EvilRoey | yeah I know | 14:53 |
BluesKaj_ | well, dunno never used btrfs and had no resaon to do so | 14:53 |
EvilRoey | but the Ubuntu/Kubuntu installer uses ONE partition and just generates subvols for / and /home instead of making separate partitions for them (I didn't realize it would act this way) | 14:53 |
EvilRoey | so you suggest re-installing then? | 14:54 |
BluesKaj_ | EvilRoey, I always setup the partitions before installing the OS | 14:54 |
BluesKaj_ | usually with gparted on cd or usb | 14:55 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: same, same | 14:56 |
BluesKaj_ | that's up to you then as long as you have your data backed up somewhere or can save your /home partition like I mentioned above | 14:56 |
rberg- | btrfs is pretty awesome, I cant wait for it to become stable.. snapshots are so much more convenient when you can teat them like files on the filesystem unlike lvm | 14:59 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: ok | 14:59 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: thankfully here at work my /home is on EXT4 | 14:59 |
BluesKaj_ | yeah EvilRoey and keep it that way :) | 15:00 |
EvilRoey | ;) | 15:01 |
EvilRoey | rberg-: the way Ubuntu's installer handles it is messed up though | 15:01 |
BluesKaj_ | not if you use the manual options for partitioning ,.it's really quite easy and straight forward, simpler than the guided or autoIMO | 15:03 |
rberg- | ohh, when I did btrfs with subvolumes I did a simple flat brtfs install and did the subvolumes manually, but this was a few releases ago.. #btrfs can be a scary place.. personally I use xfs for large arrays. | 15:03 |
BluesKaj_ | a plain home user here and even I don't fool with unknown and experimental FSs ...that's uncharted territory for me , so I stay away | 15:05 |
EvilRoey | rberg-: I've experienced data loss with xfs | 15:06 |
EvilRoey | self-fucks-up | 15:06 |
EvilRoey | same as ubuntu when I try to upgrade i | 15:06 |
EvilRoey | it | 15:06 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: I like your style | 15:06 |
EvilRoey | then again you are older and probably more conservative in general | 15:06 |
rberg- | wow, I have seen xfs take some major abuse from the layers below it (stoopid hardware raid) | 15:06 |
rberg- | and I should say it recovered.. reiserfs otoh I have lost data to | 15:07 |
BluesKaj_ | I cdonsiderd using LVM but even the LVM web page was confusing and unclear to me so i didn't fool with it | 15:07 |
BluesKaj_ | err considered | 15:07 |
rberg- | lvm is the other way to get snapshotting but you need to leave some free space in the VG for the snapshot diffs | 15:09 |
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BluesKaj_ | too many terms that i didn't understand ...I hate that about technical pages , there are no definitions to the them included in the instructions ..and I'm a tech guy who worked in a laboraory for 32 yeaqrs | 15:10 |
BluesKaj_ | definitions to terms that is | 15:11 |
rberg- | ohh yeah, I hear 'read the man page' all the time.. 1/2 the time you need read up a bit on the topic before you can grok the man page at all :) | 15:12 |
EvilRoey | rberg-: oh, I've lost data to reiserfs as well. | 15:12 |
BluesKaj_ | yup, written by geeks who deliberately try to make one feel uneducated by using arcane terms without any explanations, I recall reading newsletters at work that were similar | 15:14 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj_: that sounds like Wikipedia | 15:16 |
EvilRoey | Wikipedia frequently introduces big words just because they are big words | 15:16 |
BluesKaj_ | EvilRoey, in some cases yes | 15:16 |
EvilRoey | and then links to them as if to show you how proud they are that they have used that word. | 15:17 |
EvilRoey | like demonym | 15:17 |
BluesKaj_ | I'm running 15.04 on my laptop , that's experimental enough for me :) | 15:21 |
EvilRoey | heh | 15:32 |
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vendre | hello | 17:12 |
soee | in Dolphin is it possible to set that if i click to show videos previe in one folder thwy will be also active in all subfolders ? | 17:21 |
baxeico | Hi, I'm on kubuntu 12.04 and today a big update was proposed from backports-ppa | 17:27 |
baxeico | But some packages have unmet dependencies | 17:28 |
baxeico | http://pastebin.com/uH3x9fJf | 17:28 |
baxeico | Are those issues worked on? | 17:28 |
BluesKaj_ | baxeico,, do you have any ppas that could be causing trouble? | 17:33 |
BluesKaj_ | if so, comment the ppas with a # on the deb line and update the sources then try again | 17:35 |
baxeico | BluesKaj_: I have some ppas, but nothing kde related | 17:35 |
baxeico | virtualbox, google chrome, heroku | 17:35 |
BluesKaj_ | goota go | 17:35 |
baxeico | seems that some nepomuk libs are not updated with kdelibs | 17:38 |
baxeico | BluesKaj_: I have to go now, thank you for your help | 17:41 |
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soee | baxeico: ping | 18:39 |
baxeico | soee: here i am | 18:39 |
soee | baxeico: devs know about this problem you mentioned | 18:40 |
soee | it is going to be fixed soon | 18:41 |
baxeico | soee: thank you! | 18:42 |
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PhilSars | issue with 12.04 LTS update today libnepomuk4 broken dependencies. Other same issue ? | 19:01 |
soee | PhilSars: yes, fix is on the way | 19:01 |
PhilSars | Ok thanks for fast feedback | 19:02 |
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yofel | libnepomuk4 has to be removed actually, nepomuk isn't functional in that release | 19:23 |
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ildefonso | and X is still leaking memory with kwin :( | 19:27 |
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m_tadeu | hi....is there a gnome-disks like utility for kde? | 20:47 |
Alumin | I'm trying to build a package with Qt support (KVIrc, if it matters) and the (CMake) build process says it can't find Qt. I'm on Kubuntu 12.04, and I've got qmake in my $PATH. Any suggestions on packages to install? I've got the obvious ones, like libqt4-dev, libqt4-core, libqt4-gui | 20:48 |
soee | m_tadeu: what does it to ? | 20:48 |
Alumin | m_tadeu: not familiar with that utility, but maybe qtparted? | 20:48 |
Alumin | filelight? | 20:48 |
m_tadeu | https://www.google.com/search?q=gnome-disk-utility&gws_rd=ssl&tbm=isch | 20:48 |
soee | m_tadeu: partitionmanager | 20:49 |
Alumin | I also tried "apt-get build-dep kvirc", which did pull a few packages in but didn't solve the problem | 20:50 |
m_tadeu | soee: I'm checking that now....but it doesn't seem to be able to run SMART tests nor benchmarking, is it? | 20:51 |
soee | m_tadeu: probably not | 20:52 |
rberg- | Alumin: did you run build-dep first to get those out of the way? | 20:54 |
Alumin | rberg-: I don't understand the question | 20:54 |
Alumin | I tried the build again after installing those packages if that's what you mean | 20:55 |
m_tadeu | soee, Alumin: thanx | 20:55 |
rberg- | oh I am asking if you ran "apt-get build-dep kvirc" to install the known dependencies | 20:55 |
Alumin | yeah | 20:56 |
rberg- | ok, just getting the obvious out of the way.. | 20:56 |
Alumin | yeah, this is turning into a real head-scratcher | 20:57 |
Alumin | my usual SOP for this situation is to figure out exactly what the build process is trying to _do_ to determine if X is installed, but CMake is not making that easy | 20:57 |
Alumin | I'm just hitting abstraction after abstraction trying to swim upstream until I finally get something like "test -e /usr/lib/foo" etc. :) | 20:57 |
Alumin | so that I can then do "dpkg -S libfoo" and figure out which package it wants :) | 20:58 |
PhilSars | Any idea when the libnepomuk4 unmet dependecies for 12.04 could be solved ? | 21:28 |
yofel | PhilSars: never, please remove that | 21:29 |
PhilSars | Ok. Can you explain why Kdenkive is not working anymore since today update and how to have it backon track ? | 21:34 |
* PhilSars is away: Gone away for now | 21:37 | |
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Scunizi | latest upgrade fails with the kipi-plugins-comm, kipi-plugins & digikam leaving a lot of packages in an 'not upgraded' status. Is this a running theme with this upgrade? | 23:50 |
soee_ | Scunizi: in what Kubuntu version ? | 23:53 |
Scunizi | 12.04 | 23:53 |
Scunizi | But I believe I've used the newer PPA for the kde libraries | 23:53 |
Scunizi | Sorry.. not newer PPA but PPA for the latest kde files. | 23:54 |
soee_ | newer ? | 23:54 |
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Scunizi | not newer.. ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main | 23:55 |
yofel | could you please pastebin what apt says right now? | 23:56 |
Scunizi | soee: ^--^ | 23:56 |
soee | Scunizi: look what yofel said :) | 23:56 |
Scunizi | Sure.. give a sec. | 23:57 |
Scunizi | yofel: soee http://pastebin.com/5k59q4Zw | 23:58 |
yofel | Scunizi: please again with "apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1 dist-upgrade" | 23:59 |
Scunizi | ok.. and pastebin that?.. | 23:59 |
yofel | yes, please | 23:59 |
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