=== Yukinotteru is now known as Yukitteru === poorani_ is now known as poorani === Yukitteru is now known as Kyouma === Kyouma is now known as Yukitteru [06:01] test === frogonwheels_ is now known as frogonwheels [08:07] hi [08:09] perhaps you guys can help me (using KDE/Plasma since yesterday) ;D I seem to have done something to the panel - it does't show my open programs anymore and I don't find some way to change it back [08:09] I'm sure it's qute simple, but I can't find it -.- [08:10] KTarin: you're missing task manager applet from the panel? [08:11] widget is the term I think [08:12] Tm_T: Tried it - works :D I seem to have deleted it accidentaly [08:12] so easy and I tried for the last 30 min. Thanks for the help! [08:12] KTarin: I tend to keep my plasma widgets locked [08:13] good idea [08:13] will do that too [08:14] thx :) [08:51] hello [08:54] I'm trying to install Linux (not a *buntu) onto a 32 GB SD card in my BayTrail tablet, but the sdcard will not show up under my liveUSB of choice (System Rescue, which is Gentoo Linux based) [08:54] can anyone help me get the SD card showing up in /dev? [08:55] it should be /dev/mmcblk1 and under Kubuntu 14.10's liveUSB I have I made a partition so I should also see /dev/mmcblk1p1 as well === carlos is now known as Guest51608 === Guest51608 is now known as XinN0 [10:12] Hello Kubuntu folks! I have a problem with my Kubuntu 12.04 after installing recent updates on the KDE environment this morning. After login, the screen stays black, only the mouse is visible. Any ideas? [10:19] I can still switch to a console session using CTRL-Alt-F1 and login there [10:20] How could I find out what is wrong with my KDE since the upgrade of packages this morning? [10:24] Just noticed that there is no process kwin running, so I tried to start one. This gives "kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display" === b is now known as Guest29877 === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt === Yukitteru is now known as Yukinotteru === ashwin_ is now known as ashwin === owner_ is now known as Guest49980 === Guest49980 is now known as Pornholio [12:21] sup === LjL is now known as LjL-Away === Guest45003 is now known as Aerides [13:19] Hiyas all [14:14] hi [14:14] BluesKaj_: good morning!! [14:14] So the Kubuntu do-release-upgrade -d messed up [14:15] and thankfully I was able to reboot [14:15] 'Morning Roey [14:15] I ran apt-get -f install and then apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade the remaining packages, [14:15] but the kernel is still 3.13 (kubuntu 14.04; I am trying to upgrade to 14.10) [14:16] better to get the dailies and just install to / [14:16] lsb_release shows utopic [14:16] ok [14:16] but still I don't know how to complete this upgradee [14:16] *upgrade [14:16] updgrade to 15.04? [14:17] because upgrade -d means devel OS [14:19] upgrade to 14.10 [14:19] I did -d because it wouldn't upgrade otherwise. [14:19] anyway, it started upgrading to 14.10. [14:20] don't use -d for upgrading to an official release because -d will try to go to 15.04 not 14.10 [14:20] ok [14:20] thanks [14:27] EvilRoey, if you're on 14.04 and upgrading to 14.10, make sure your LTS only upgrade is turned off in the update manager [14:27] ok [14:27] BluesKaj_: What's the command to launch the update manager? I did everything from the command-line.. [14:28] just try update-manager [14:30] http://pastebin.com/axh4URBC [14:31] BluesKaj_: ^ I get that. [14:32] probly too late, but try updatemanager or dbus-launch update-manager [14:37] ok [14:38] EvilRoey, being a terminal pursit in this case is not a good idea just open the package manager and look for the update/upgrade options then uncheck LTS only [14:38] ok [14:39] BluesKaj_: I tried. both updatemanager and update-manager crash [14:40] pk , noe try the package manager gui as I suggested [14:40] ok [14:40] I tried both [14:44] BluesKaj_: should I just re-install? [14:45] EvilRoey, do you have separate / and /home partitions ? [14:45] yes. [14:45] on this system, yes. [14:46] on my home system, it's all a BTRFS partition with separate subvols for /, /home, /archive, etc. [14:46] on my home system I was worrying about how to cleanly re-install [14:46] but then I fixed it. [14:46] (it was a problem in ~/.kde) [14:47] then just use manual partitioning in ubiquity and format / then set the mount point for /home , but don't format [14:48] why btrfs ? it just restricts your oprions when a reinstall is needed [14:48] options [14:50] BluesKaj_: sure does [14:50] wish I had thought of that earlier.. [14:51] BluesKaj_: even more, why didn't Ubuntu consider the possibility that folks may want to re-install but preserve individual subvols [14:51] I mean [14:51] BTRFS' snapshotting makes these things much more possible [14:51] *feasible [14:52] EvilRoey, that's what the / and /home partitioning options are for [14:53] yeah I know [14:53] well, dunno never used btrfs and had no resaon to do so [14:53] but the Ubuntu/Kubuntu installer uses ONE partition and just generates subvols for / and /home instead of making separate partitions for them (I didn't realize it would act this way) [14:54] so you suggest re-installing then? [14:54] EvilRoey, I always setup the partitions before installing the OS [14:55] usually with gparted on cd or usb [14:56] BluesKaj_: same, same [14:56] that's up to you then as long as you have your data backed up somewhere or can save your /home partition like I mentioned above [14:59] btrfs is pretty awesome, I cant wait for it to become stable.. snapshots are so much more convenient when you can teat them like files on the filesystem unlike lvm [14:59] BluesKaj_: ok [14:59] BluesKaj_: thankfully here at work my /home is on EXT4 [15:00] yeah EvilRoey and keep it that way :) [15:01] ;) [15:01] rberg-: the way Ubuntu's installer handles it is messed up though [15:03] not if you use the manual options for partitioning ,.it's really quite easy and straight forward, simpler than the guided or autoIMO [15:03] ohh, when I did btrfs with subvolumes I did a simple flat brtfs install and did the subvolumes manually, but this was a few releases ago.. #btrfs can be a scary place.. personally I use xfs for large arrays. [15:05] a plain home user here and even I don't fool with unknown and experimental FSs ...that's uncharted territory for me , so I stay away [15:06] rberg-: I've experienced data loss with xfs [15:06] self-fucks-up [15:06] same as ubuntu when I try to upgrade i [15:06] it [15:06] BluesKaj_: I like your style [15:06] then again you are older and probably more conservative in general [15:06] wow, I have seen xfs take some major abuse from the layers below it (stoopid hardware raid) [15:07] and I should say it recovered.. reiserfs otoh I have lost data to [15:07] I cdonsiderd using LVM but even the LVM web page was confusing and unclear to me so i didn't fool with it [15:07] err considered [15:09] lvm is the other way to get snapshotting but you need to leave some free space in the VG for the snapshot diffs === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [15:10] too many terms that i didn't understand ...I hate that about technical pages , there are no definitions to the them included in the instructions ..and I'm a tech guy who worked in a laboraory for 32 yeaqrs [15:11] definitions to terms that is [15:12] ohh yeah, I hear 'read the man page' all the time.. 1/2 the time you need read up a bit on the topic before you can grok the man page at all :) [15:12] rberg-: oh, I've lost data to reiserfs as well. [15:14] yup, written by geeks who deliberately try to make one feel uneducated by using arcane terms without any explanations, I recall reading newsletters at work that were similar [15:16] BluesKaj_: that sounds like Wikipedia [15:16] Wikipedia frequently introduces big words just because they are big words [15:16] EvilRoey, in some cases yes [15:17] and then links to them as if to show you how proud they are that they have used that word. [15:17] like demonym [15:21] I'm running 15.04 on my laptop , that's experimental enough for me :) [15:32] heh === carlos is now known as Guest91944 [17:12] hello [17:21] in Dolphin is it possible to set that if i click to show videos previe in one folder thwy will be also active in all subfolders ? [17:27] Hi, I'm on kubuntu 12.04 and today a big update was proposed from backports-ppa [17:28] But some packages have unmet dependencies [17:28] http://pastebin.com/uH3x9fJf [17:28] Are those issues worked on? [17:33] baxeico,, do you have any ppas that could be causing trouble? [17:35] if so, comment the ppas with a # on the deb line and update the sources then try again [17:35] BluesKaj_: I have some ppas, but nothing kde related [17:35] virtualbox, google chrome, heroku [17:35] goota go [17:38] seems that some nepomuk libs are not updated with kdelibs [17:41] BluesKaj_: I have to go now, thank you for your help === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [18:39] baxeico: ping [18:39] soee: here i am [18:40] baxeico: devs know about this problem you mentioned [18:41] it is going to be fixed soon [18:42] soee: thank you! === daniel is now known as Guest25200 === Guest25200 is now known as datiti [19:01] issue with 12.04 LTS update today libnepomuk4 broken dependencies. Other same issue ? [19:01] PhilSars: yes, fix is on the way [19:02] Ok thanks for fast feedback === Yukinotteru is now known as Yukitteru [19:23] libnepomuk4 has to be removed actually, nepomuk isn't functional in that release === Graf_Westerholt is now known as Graefin_Westerho [19:27] and X is still leaking memory with kwin :( === Graefin_Westerho is now known as Graf_Westerholt === dejan is now known as Guest48909 [20:47] hi....is there a gnome-disks like utility for kde? [20:48] I'm trying to build a package with Qt support (KVIrc, if it matters) and the (CMake) build process says it can't find Qt. I'm on Kubuntu 12.04, and I've got qmake in my $PATH. Any suggestions on packages to install? I've got the obvious ones, like libqt4-dev, libqt4-core, libqt4-gui [20:48] m_tadeu: what does it to ? [20:48] m_tadeu: not familiar with that utility, but maybe qtparted? [20:48] filelight? [20:48] https://www.google.com/search?q=gnome-disk-utility&gws_rd=ssl&tbm=isch [20:49] m_tadeu: partitionmanager [20:50] I also tried "apt-get build-dep kvirc", which did pull a few packages in but didn't solve the problem [20:51] soee: I'm checking that now....but it doesn't seem to be able to run SMART tests nor benchmarking, is it? [20:52] m_tadeu: probably not [20:54] Alumin: did you run build-dep first to get those out of the way? [20:54] rberg-: I don't understand the question [20:55] I tried the build again after installing those packages if that's what you mean [20:55] soee, Alumin: thanx [20:55] oh I am asking if you ran "apt-get build-dep kvirc" to install the known dependencies [20:56] yeah [20:56] ok, just getting the obvious out of the way.. [20:57] yeah, this is turning into a real head-scratcher [20:57] my usual SOP for this situation is to figure out exactly what the build process is trying to _do_ to determine if X is installed, but CMake is not making that easy [20:57] I'm just hitting abstraction after abstraction trying to swim upstream until I finally get something like "test -e /usr/lib/foo" etc. :) [20:58] so that I can then do "dpkg -S libfoo" and figure out which package it wants :) [21:28] Any idea when the libnepomuk4 unmet dependecies for 12.04 could be solved ? [21:29] PhilSars: never, please remove that [21:34] Ok. Can you explain why Kdenkive is not working anymore since today update and how to have it backon track ? [21:37] * PhilSars is away: Gone away for now === Yukitteru is now known as Yukinotteru === zz_XeBlackWater is now known as XeBlackWater === XeBlackWater is now known as zz_XeBlackWater [23:50] latest upgrade fails with the kipi-plugins-comm, kipi-plugins & digikam leaving a lot of packages in an 'not upgraded' status. Is this a running theme with this upgrade? [23:53] Scunizi: in what Kubuntu version ? [23:53] 12.04 [23:53] But I believe I've used the newer PPA for the kde libraries [23:54] Sorry.. not newer PPA but PPA for the latest kde files. [23:54] newer ? === soee_ is now known as soee [23:55] not newer.. ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main [23:56] could you please pastebin what apt says right now? [23:56] soee: ^--^ [23:56] Scunizi: look what yofel said :) [23:57] Sure.. give a sec. [23:58] yofel: soee http://pastebin.com/5k59q4Zw [23:59] Scunizi: please again with "apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1 dist-upgrade" [23:59] ok.. and pastebin that?.. [23:59] yes, please