[01:20] <delt> *sigh* where's the output log of the X session again :/
[01:20] <delt> locked myself out of my X....
[01:25] <delt> oh *duh* never mind.... my .ICEauthority was owned by root
[07:08] <newusr> exit
[09:30] <sunstar> studio keeps on doing things that thousands of dollars worth of software fail to do..
[16:14] <delt> Hello
[16:14] <delt> i'm trying to compile a very simple dbus example
[16:14] <delt> i'm pretty sure i'm using all the right compiler flags, but i get a bunch of undefined references
[16:15] <delt> listen.c:(.text+0xb9): undefined reference to `dbus_bus_get'
[16:15] <delt> listen.c:(.text+0xc9): undefined reference to `dbus_error_is_set'
[16:15] <delt> etc etc
[16:15] <holstein> delt: i would try #ubuntu for larger operating system issues like that
[16:15] <delt> ah, good idea thanks
[16:15] <holstein> though, you will eventually just need to go to whomever is providing the code you are compiling..
[16:16] <delt> asked in #dbus, not much help so far....
[16:17] <holstein> sure.. but, its not likely a dbus, or ubuntu issue, or question
[16:17] <holstein> if i made some random code and you downloaded it, ubuntu nor dbus states "run any random code you find, easily, and with all the support and resources of ubuntu/canonnical".. you see?
[16:18] <holstein> at some point, you have to see where the code is coming from, and ask the creators. they may say something like "we didnt intend to support the ubuntu 14.04 kernel version" etc.. something that is not easily resolvable
[16:19] <holstein> with ubuntu, i personally run from the repo, *or*, i'll try and find an isolated .deb, or simple PPA.. even ppa's can break things sometimes.. then, i'll move on to other "out of repo/unsupported" options
[16:19] <holstein> if i need support, i know, at that point, i have to go to the project its self.. and, in many cases with the open software we are likely discussing, the teams can be small
[16:26] <delt> DUH ---> 11:24 < barometz> delt: make sure your -ldbus or whatever the flag is doesn't come before the source files
[16:27] <delt> #c
[18:45] <Bernhard_L> Hello out there!?
[18:46] <Bernhard_L> Have some problems with audacity and jack. Pls help!
[18:46] <holstein> Bernhard_L: personally, i dont use audacity with JACK, and dont suggest it
[18:46] <holstein> !proaudio
[18:47] <holstein> Bernhard_L: i would try and isolate the issues.. see that jack is working,a nd routing well.. and stable.. *then* move onto whatever audacity issues you have
[18:47] <Bernhard_L> Why not. It is could for editing, such as clippings ...
[18:47] <holstein> Bernhard_L: sure.. but, you dont need jack to use it
[18:47] <holstein> Bernhard_L: you can use audacity without jack.. and should
[18:47] <Bernhard_L> Producing lots of xruns, all the time.
[18:48] <holstein> Bernhard_L: sure.. thats why i say, *stop* audacity, and all other audio applications, and work with the jack config
[18:48] <Bernhard_L> holstein: Yes but then I have to break music production with ardour, rosegarden and hydrogen.
[18:48] <holstein> relax the settings, and get something well known working well, with a higher latency, since, you dont need low latency
[18:48] <Bernhard_L> holstein: My jack config is working good with any other audio apllication.
[18:49] <holstein> you dont need jack or low latency to edit some audio files in audacity
[18:49] <Bernhard_L> holstein: My latnecy is 5.33 ms
[18:49] <holstein> Bernhard_L: sure. thats what i found.. that audacity *did* *not* support jack well.. and its not an intention of the project, so, i just stopped
[18:49] <holstein> Bernhard_L: sure.. set the latency *more* relaxed.. more like 40+ms
[18:50] <holstein> Bernhard_L: you have no need of 5.33 ms latency to use audacity for editing audio files
[18:50] <Bernhard_L> okay, is there any other app, that could correct an almost good audio file. I didn't find it.
[18:51] <holstein> Bernhard_L: use audacity
[18:51] <holstein> Bernhard_L: you just dont need to use it with jack
[18:51] <holstein> Bernhard_L: stop jack, use audacity.. close audacity, go back to jack
[18:51] <holstein> or, relax the JACK settings a lot and test
[18:51] <Bernhard_L> holstein: Is there any other audio editor working better with jack?
[18:51] <holstein> Bernhard_L: many
[18:52] <Bernhard_L> holstein: Thanx, I will do it.
[18:52] <holstein> Bernhard_L: non, ardour, qtractor.. etc
[18:52] <Bernhard_L> You got my wrong, editing a file on a certain moment. Like audacity can correct it at certain moment.
[18:53] <holstein> Bernhard_L: you want audacity, use it
[18:53] <holstein> Bernhard_L: it doesnt boast, nor intend to faciliate great jack performance
[18:53] <Bernhard_L> holstein: for example, I got a wonderfull audio file from cc mixter. Only a pop at the beginning. Nice voice.
[18:53] <holstein> Bernhard_L: if i wanted to use it, i would fire it up using pulse, and just use the routing of the pulse jack dbus if for some reason i needed jack running
[18:54] <holstein> Bernhard_L: sure.. so, stop jack, fire up audacity , and do what you like
[18:54] <Bernhard_L> holstein: Okay I see.
[18:54] <Bernhard_L> Thank you.
[18:54] <holstein> Bernhard_L: or, edit the "pop" with ardour, or *anything* else.. or audacity in jack using pulse, or in jack with your settings relaxed
[18:54] <Bernhard_L> holstein: That's it.
[18:56] <Bernhard_L> By the way, do you know tracktion?
[18:57] <Bernhard_L> .. or Bitwig
[18:58] <Bernhard_L> I love ardour, connected with hydrogen and rosegarden. But I am curious.