| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| ali1234 | hmm... i got the malicious redirect to happen | 00:55 |
|---|---|---|
| ali1234 | server is definitely compromised then | 00:56 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: so assuming you're about to reinstall the question then is 'how' | 00:56 |
| ali1234 | not my problem luckily | 00:57 |
| ali1234 | this is one of those legacy red hat servers i was talking about the other day | 00:58 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Well more I mean 'how did it get infected' | 00:58 |
| ali1234 | yeah, again, not my problem | 00:58 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Ah, how legacy? | 00:58 |
| ali1234 | CentOS release 5.11 (Final) | 00:59 |
| penguin42 | that should still have security updates I think | 00:59 |
| ali1234 | it does | 00:59 |
| ali1234 | it's "legacy" in the sense that the web developers who made the site installed it all and then quit the web dev business, leaving the whole server unsupported | 01:00 |
| ali1234 | it's a VM hosted... somewhere, with "sort of" support | 01:01 |
| penguin42 | it seems the safest way from their point of view :-) | 01:01 |
| ali1234 | various sysadmin log into it all the time and do things | 01:01 |
| ali1234 | nobody has any idea who they are but they seem to be logging in from the hosting company IPs | 01:01 |
| ali1234 | it also auto updates and also has puppet and virtualmin installed | 01:02 |
| ali1234 | so pretty much nobody understands how it works and the thing was well overdue a reinstall anyway | 01:02 |
| penguin42 | nod, still worrying when you don't know how | 01:02 |
| ali1234 | my guess would be the hosting company is infected and their sysadmins are spreading it when they ssh into servers and do stuff | 01:03 |
| ali1234 | either that or someone bruteforced root password, which is still enabled | 01:03 |
| penguin42 | nod | 01:06 |
| daftykins | ugh | 01:36 |
| daftykins | root password :( | 01:36 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| daftykins | tum-te-tum | 04:10 |
| mapps | hi ho | 04:13 |
| daftykins | mornin' | 04:17 |
| daftykins | were you back over for Christmas, mapps? | 04:17 |
| daftykins | two of you 0o | 04:18 |
| mapp | ;] | 04:21 |
| daftykins | were you back over for Christmas, mapps? | 04:22 |
| mapp | nop | 04:25 |
| daftykins | ah, get up to much on the day itself? | 04:26 |
| mapp | off xmas evew | 04:29 |
| mapp | worked xmas day..off tomorrow | 04:29 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 04:29 |
| mapp | or 2night owever you look at it | 04:29 |
| mapp | ;] | 04:29 |
| mapp | you do much? | 04:29 |
| daftykins | :D | 04:29 |
| daftykins | nah, quiet one with lunch at the parents with gran over | 04:29 |
| daftykins | endured shocking broadcast TV until 11ish then got home :> | 04:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | broadcast tv, does that still exist? :-) | 04:34 |
| mapp | holiday tv sucks eh | 04:34 |
| mapp | good stuff gets put on a break | 04:34 |
| mapp | for dross | 04:34 |
| mapp | eastenders xmas special..boring films | 04:34 |
| mapp | ugh | 04:34 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: apparently, only see it when i go to my olds or at friends occasionally | 04:34 |
| daftykins | though i would like to see news again, so maybe i'll make up a satellite dish coax extension cable in the new year | 04:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | i really should thank tv for making me give up tv | 04:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | *reality tv | 04:35 |
| daftykins | oh lawd | 04:35 |
| daftykins | old girl put on the bloody dancing one, what a pile of tosh | 04:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | there's a reality tv show that isn't poo? | 04:37 |
| daftykins | nah i'm saying it's terrible XD | 04:38 |
| mapp | sleep time | 05:03 |
| mapp | buh bye | 05:03 |
| mapp | well try to..got a cold;[ | 05:03 |
| mapp | gonna take some night nurse;] | 05:03 |
| daftykins | :O i had one recently, pretty well recovered now | 05:04 |
| daftykins | stuff tends to kick my ass but then i come back fighting :D | 05:05 |
| daftykins | i'm like a Hollywood film 0o | 05:05 |
| mapp | ;] | 05:06 |
| daftykins | anyway take care sir and happy new year if i don't catch you o/ | 05:07 |
| mapp | same mate..il prob be back before its 2015..just sleep gym then irc;p | 05:11 |
| mapp | hopefully this night nurse will help me sleep HATE it when i lie there trying to sleep for hours=[ | 05:11 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 05:12 |
| foobarry | another frosty day in london | 08:53 |
| bashrc | definitely cold | 08:55 |
| bashrc | researching laptops. My current laptop is fine except that the screen is failing. Sooner or later it's going to fail fully | 09:07 |
| TwistedLucidity | bashrc: Which is more important, quality, price or performance? | 09:11 |
| TwistedLucidity | bashrc: And if it's just the screen, they can be replaced. | 09:12 |
| foobarry | +1 for fix | 09:18 |
| foobarry | maybe its just a £5 part | 09:18 |
| bashrc | TwistedLuci: I'm looking for maximum software freedom. No binary blobs | 09:19 |
| bashrc | I'll search for screens | 09:21 |
| bashrc | for 2015 I may try going all the way and trying to run all free software. I already do on the server, it's really just graphics and wifi that are needed on a laptop | 09:29 |
| bashrc | maybe I could grow a beard too :) | 09:30 |
| foobarry | lcd inverter problem? | 09:46 |
| foobarry | bashrc: what is the actual problem with the screen | 09:47 |
| bashrc | especially in cold weather (like now) on boot the screen rapidly goes completely white. After it warms up, about 20 mins later, everything is fine | 09:49 |
| bashrc | over time this behavior seems to be getting worse, and it also appears to be unrelated to the operating system | 09:50 |
| foobarry | this was like all tvs in the 80s :) | 09:51 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bashrc | heh, I don't think so | 09:51 |
| bashrc | it's almost as if the liquid crystals are disabled by cold weather | 09:52 |
| bashrc | having an effective boot time of 20-30 mins is getting irritating, and I think one day the screen is just going to remain white indefinitely | 09:55 |
| ali1234 | does it slowly change colour or does it flicker? | 09:56 |
| bashrc | it flickers, weird colours, some white some normal, then after about 20-30mins it's ok | 09:56 |
| ali1234 | you probably need a whole new motherboard then | 09:57 |
| bashrc | yeah I was thinking it might not just be the screen, could be graphics hardware or the physical interface between the board and the screen | 09:57 |
| bashrc | also this happens immediately at power on, even before the OS has booted, and I've used various OS's on this laptop, so I don't think it's software related | 09:58 |
| foobarry | it could be solder | 10:02 |
| foobarry | able | 10:02 |
| foobarry | eg http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T61-and-prior-T-series-ThinkPad/Laptop-screen-needs-to-warm-up/td-p/1031961 | 10:02 |
| ali1234 | yes you could try reflowing the motherboard | 10:03 |
| ali1234 | if i do "rsync -avz user@host:/path/" where do the files go? | 10:04 |
| ali1234 | answer: nowhere, it just lists the files | 10:07 |
| bashrc | foobarry: yes the symptoms are very similar to that, so it could be something like something coming unsoldered from the board. After it warms and expands it makes contact again | 10:23 |
| foobarry | http://therestartproject.org/ | 10:25 |
| foobarry | lots of people around who can help | 10:26 |
| foobarry | better to repair otherwise good things rather than send rare metals to landfill </preach> | 10:26 |
| foobarry | http://ifixit.org/blog/6882/why-i-drilled-holes-in-my-macbook-pro-and-put-it-in-the-oven/ | 10:34 |
| awilkins | I had an Amiga you had to warm up with a hair dryer before the keyboard worked | 10:35 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:41 |
| NET||abuse | hi guys. i'm having a consistent issue crop up every once in a while. | 10:43 |
| NET||abuse | the wifi just drops the connection, the select wifi doesn't list any id's | 10:44 |
| foobarry | anything in dmesg? | 10:45 |
| NET||abuse | too much noise in there. | 10:48 |
| NET||abuse | to get back online i disabled and re-enabled wifi. | 10:49 |
| NET||abuse | but inbetween i also pluggedin my android phone and enabled tethering to google for things | 10:49 |
| NET||abuse | just too much activity to debug. | 10:49 |
| foobarry | grep | 10:50 |
| foobarry | NET||abuse: by all means dump your dmesg to pastebin and we can check for you | 11:17 |
| foobarry | do a private paste though just in case | 11:17 |
| ali1234 | i've got a samsung charging dock for galaxy S3 which just has a microusb on it | 11:17 |
| ali1234 | it work with some things but not others, why? | 11:18 |
| ali1234 | for example i can plug my nexus 7 in to it and it charges | 11:18 |
| ali1234 | but moto g does not | 11:19 |
| foobarry | current? | 11:40 |
| foobarry | moto g requires min current? | 11:41 |
| foobarry | i have one which doesn't charge well on low powered charger < 1a | 11:41 |
| ali1234 | no, it works fine on the same cable | 11:41 |
| foobarry | hm | 11:41 |
| awilkins | Does it have data cables? | 11:55 |
| awilkins | A forum post I'm looking at says "try rebooting the phone while connected to a laptop with the USB cable" | 11:58 |
| === arjun is now known as Guest46054 | ||
| Guest46054 | ERROR: Can't change MAC: interface up or not permission: Device or resource busy | 12:43 |
| bujji | ERROR: Can't change MAC: interface up or not permission: Device or resource b | 12:46 |
| bujji | popey:? | 12:46 |
| bujji | hello any one over there. | 12:48 |
| penguin42 | bujji: Start by saying how you got your problem | 12:48 |
| bujji | penguin42: macchanger --mac=01:23:45:67:89:AB wlan0 | 12:49 |
| penguin42 | bujji: OK, so read the error message - what's it telling you? | 12:49 |
| bujji | penguin42:ERROR: Can't change MAC: interface up or not permission: Device or resource b | 12:51 |
| penguin42 | bujji: No, I can see the text; *YOU* read it and think about what it's saying | 12:51 |
| bujji | penguin42:device or resource busy | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | bujji: It's telling you 2 things that might cause the erro | 12:52 |
| penguin42 | r | 12:52 |
| bujji | penguin42:? | 12:52 |
| bujji | penguin42:it gave me perinent mac and current mac,nothing has changed | 12:53 |
| penguin42 | bujji: It's telling you 1) 'interface up' or 2) ' not permission' | 12:54 |
| penguin42 | bujji: So, have you got permission? Is the interface up? | 12:54 |
| bujji | penguin42:dont know | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | bujji: Well, what do you do when you don't have permissions normally? | 12:56 |
| bujji | penguin42: I logged in as a root | 12:57 |
| penguin42 | bujji: OK, so if you're doing it at root then it's probably not permissions; so ok what about the other part 'interface up' - is your wireless interface setup and connected? | 12:57 |
| bujji | penguin42:even i tried with eth0 also same error. | 12:59 |
| penguin42 | how about you answer the question I asked? | 12:59 |
| bujji | penguin42:? | 13:04 |
| bujji | penguin42:are you there? | 13:06 |
| bujji | penguin42:ERROR: Can't change MAC: interface up or not permission: Cannot assign requested address | 13:09 |
| foobarry | lol | 13:09 |
| bujji | foobarry:why? | 13:09 |
| bujji | foobarry:? | 13:14 |
| bujji | anyone please.. | 13:14 |
| bujji | popey:? | 13:16 |
| popey | penguin42: still getting on well with the OnePlus? | 14:12 |
| penguin42 | popey: Yeh, I've not got very far in getting a newer kernel on it | 14:13 |
| penguin42 | popey: Android kernels are even worse than I imagined they would be | 14:13 |
| popey | hah | 14:13 |
| penguin42 | popey: I'm trying to merge a 3.6.x at the moment; it's got very slim chances | 14:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | if it were easy the sense of achievement if you do it wouldn't be as great :-) | 14:14 |
| penguin42 | popey: Classic example; it's got a hack (for the Find7 specifically) in the ext4 code to do vfat mount like setting of uid/gid - I don't know why though | 14:14 |
| popey | ugh | 14:15 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: Yeh, I'd assumed I'd manage to find a kernel that was close to it that I could work with, but the closest tag I can find to the find7 cm-11 kernel is git diff |wc -l 800k lines different | 14:15 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: and then you find bits of it are based on code-aurora's kernel tree that has tags like M8960AAAAANLYA100709A and LNX.LA.3.5.2.2.c3-00210-8x74.0 - and the second of those's Makefile says it's actually a 3.4.0 kernel | 14:17 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/FSF30-video/FSF_30_720p.webm <-- watch it fullscreen with headphones - the audio is impressive | 16:03 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| foobarry | what is it diddledan ? | 16:35 |
| diddledan | foobarry: it's a video extolling how amazing the gnu is, but I just like it because the audio was immersive on my headphones | 16:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's slow gnus day :-P | 16:45 |
| foobarry | 16GB byteStor 45MB/s SDHC UHS-I CL10 Memory Card | 16:54 |
| foobarry | £5.89 | 16:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | you wonder about the reliability when they get that cheap | 16:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | when i spent £50 on a box of floppies in 80s i knew they'd last years, when i spent a tennr they lasted 5 minutes | 16:55 |
| * penguin42 has never heard of byteStor so wouldn't trust it | 16:56 | |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: That just was never true of the 1.44MB ones in the early 90s though | 16:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | the floppy disks i installed win95 from _twice_ only ever worked once | 16:57 |
| foobarry | plume have wrecked their once excellent app | 16:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think it's more that twitter has moved the api on them | 17:00 |
| foobarry | they are displaying full screen ads every few seconds | 17:07 |
| foobarry | thats how to wreck a userbase | 17:07 |
| foobarry | who will not move to the paid version either | 17:07 |
| foobarry | ugh tv licence 145£ | 17:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | i saw a full screen ad in app i installed a few days ago. have update apps switched to off since last year as functionality seems to degrade per upgrade per app | 17:08 |
| aptanet | foobarry: I was going to say I hadn't noticed, but then realised I'm using the paid for version | 17:08 |
| foobarry | its a bit pricey | 17:09 |
| foobarry | if i could guarantee i would continue to use the app then it would be fine | 17:10 |
| foobarry | tweetcaster users complaining of same issue | 17:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | puts me off android more than a specific app | 17:10 |
| foobarry | which bit? | 17:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | full screen adverts, it's their ad platform enabling that | 17:11 |
| foobarry | oh | 17:12 |
| foobarry | its a bad move | 17:12 |
| foobarry | or something they need to fix somehow? | 17:13 |
| aptanet | yes, it does look to be the most expensive app I've purchased - nearly 2 years ago now so not a fortune overall | 17:13 |
| foobarry | i can fix by cyanogen + adaway but dont wanna wipe my whole phone | 17:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | i go out and buy a piece of hardware and they want to shove ads in my face, well that just makes me annoyed | 17:13 |
| foobarry | adaway requires root but root is tricky with moto g i hear | 17:14 |
| foobarry | then i won't see any ads, so google/devs lose over all | 17:15 |
| foobarry | rooting stops OTA updates so think i will wait till lollipoop | 17:16 |
| foobarry | the problem is..how to backup phone if you don't have root? | 17:17 |
| foobarry | titaniumbackips are so unsatisfactory | 17:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | foia request to cia? :-) | 17:17 |
| foobarry | http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28296/full-backup-of-non-rooted-devices | 17:27 |
| diddledan | I found a bug in drupal today :-) https://www.drupal.org/node/2400471 | 17:47 |
| foobarry | yay? | 17:52 |
| diddledan | yes, yey, because I gave them a patch to fix it, too :-p | 17:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | so you potentially fixed a bug in drupal, a much bigger achievment | 17:54 |
| foobarry | http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-discloses-unpatched-windows-vulnerability/ | 17:54 |
| penguin42 | oops | 17:57 |
| penguin42 | oh, he did a 90 day warning | 17:58 |
| diddledan | they say it's not clear whether he actually told microsoft tho | 18:01 |
| penguin42 | well there's no point in him doing a 90 day warning without telling them | 18:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | he sent an email to billgates@hotmail.com? :-) | 18:01 |
| foobarry | they are competitors | 18:04 |
| foobarry | i wonder if MS would do the same? | 18:04 |
| foobarry | no | 18:04 |
| foobarry | still, don't be a richard , as they say | 18:05 |
| penguin42 | I'm sure they would have filed it with MS | 18:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's the i.t. industry, it's richards as far as the eye can see :-/ | 18:05 |
| foobarry | the richard recursion algorithm | 18:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's richards all the way down... | 18:06 |
| diddledan | roger the support guy. he's nice. | 18:15 |
| diddledan | and all the many richards in the support centre, as you allude. | 18:15 |
| diddledan | yawn | 18:25 |
| diddledan | long day working | 18:25 |
| DJones | For the London fireworks for new year,I wonder if the organisers attach rockets to the cars on the London eye and turn it into giant catherine wheel | 18:54 |
| mapp | tired | 19:20 |
| mapp | wanna have a nap but then il be too tired to go out | 19:20 |
| mapp | grmpf | 19:20 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| daftykins | ;] | 19:38 |
| penguin42 | mapp: Won't you be less tired after a nap - or isn't that how naps are supposed to work? | 19:40 |
| DJones | diddledan: Was that the wrong channel | 19:40 |
| daftykins | ^ | 19:40 |
| daftykins | i'm sure there's a potential child's rhyme that can be made out of mapp napping | 19:41 |
| diddledan | DJones: yeah. *smacky forehead* | 19:41 |
| diddledan | I saw "ubuntu" and assumed I left it on the right channel | 19:41 |
| daftykins | so 'The Net' eh? i remember she smacks a CRT off a nurses station counter in that one | 19:42 |
| daftykins | she gets a bit ragey | 19:42 |
| diddledan | teehee | 19:42 |
| diddledan | haven't got to that bit yet | 19:43 |
| daftykins | hmm i see that Panorama doc about Apple is still available on yonder iPlayer | 19:43 |
| diddledan | ooh, that sounds like an interesting docu | 19:43 |
| * diddledan goes to find it | 19:43 | |
| daftykins | hah, it starts on Fatboy Slim then goes into Daft Punk | 19:45 |
| daftykins | classic :D | 19:45 |
| diddledan | aah, it's the one about their "shocking" working conditions | 19:46 |
| daftykins | yep and children mining | 19:46 |
| daftykins | hrmm now which system do i have get_iplayer on 0o | 19:46 |
| diddledan | lol | 19:46 |
| mapp | but | 19:47 |
| mapp | often afer a small nap i feel more tired | 19:47 |
| mapp | like 1/2hr naps | 19:47 |
| daftykins | mmk apparently it's not a VM on here 0o | 19:49 |
| daftykins | lol @ "Zaphod mode" in the intel driver, that's amusing | 19:59 |
| daftykins | classic HHGTTG reference | 19:59 |
| mapp | just watched the guvnors..another rubbish football hooligan film | 20:00 |
| mapp | how people love these films is beyond me | 20:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | it has football in it | 20:01 |
| mapp | totally mug | 20:03 |
| mapp | only one team that matters | 20:03 |
| mapp | ;] | 20:03 |
| daftykins | is that the one that doesn't play? | 20:04 |
| daftykins | 'cause then i'd agree | 20:04 |
| mapp | heh | 20:04 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Zaphod mode has been in X from back in the Sun days | 20:15 |
| daftykins | penguin42: hehe :D neat | 20:29 |
| daftykins | hmm, fix a puncture or just transfer the lights from one to another | 20:31 |
| daftykins | the lazy option is mighty tempting ;) | 20:31 |
| daftykins | huzzah, light swap is far easier :P | 20:39 |
| mapp | off out now | 21:58 |
| mapp | fireworks at casemates square (gib) | 21:58 |
| mapp | hopefully will be good | 21:58 |
| mapp | happy new year all..hopefully 2015 will be a good one..catch you all later | 21:58 |
| mapp | :D | 21:58 |
| daftykins | o/ | 21:59 |
| daftykins | enjoy | 21:59 |
| mapp | 1hr17 into the drop with james gandilfini arghh gotta finish it later | 22:05 |
| mapp | seems decent | 22:05 |
| daftykins | James Gandolfini, from The Sopranos? daym | 22:06 |
| mapp | yea | 22:07 |
| mapp | was obc done before he died | 22:07 |
| mapp | mustve been his last film | 22:07 |
| daftykins | =[ | 22:08 |
| daftykins | right i best shower and get on out to my mates | 22:08 |
| daftykins | jeez, this new year marks 19 years since i've had these mates since secondary school | 22:09 |
| === MonsterKiller is now known as MonsterKi | ||
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