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| === gogopowerRanger is now known as GoGoPowerRanger | ||
| Kilos | hi GoGoPowerRanger | 05:40 |
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| Kilos | wbb | 05:45 |
| Kilos | Maaz: coffee on | 05:55 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 05:55 | |
| Kilos | morning all | 05:57 |
| Kilos | my konversation is sick | 05:57 |
| Kilos | inetpro: fix it | 05:57 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 05:59 |
| Kilos | Maaz: danke | 06:00 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 06:00 |
| nuvolari | o/ oh hi more oom Kilos :) | 06:22 |
| nuvolari | hi Maaz | 06:22 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari gaaint seun? | 06:22 |
| nuvolari | Geniet oom Kilos se laaste dag van 2014! | 06:22 |
| Kilos | gaanit ook | 06:22 |
| nuvolari | dit gaan goed dankie en met oom? | 06:23 |
| Kilos | goed dankie, soek nou n ssd | 06:23 |
| Kilos | hehe almal se hulle so vinnig | 06:23 |
| nuvolari | ek sal nie weet nie oom :P | 06:24 |
| nuvolari | nog nie experience nie | 06:24 |
| nuvolari | my laptop werk fine, so ek weet nie van beter nie :P | 06:25 |
| Kilos | graeme se dis beter om n ssd te koop as om n i5 cpu in te sit | 06:26 |
| Kilos | so ons sal sien | 06:26 |
| nuvolari | maar hulle's klein :( | 06:26 |
| Kilos | hulle net duur jong | 06:26 |
| nuvolari | dit ook | 06:27 |
| Kilos | ja maar hulle se dis net vir die os en ander drives vir data | 06:27 |
| Kilos | is jy gelukkig daar in die kaap? | 06:29 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:29 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning | 06:29 |
| nuvolari | oh hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:29 |
| nuvolari | ja oom Kilos! Behalwe vir die pryse van goed kan ek nie kla nie | 06:29 |
| nuvolari | hier is bietjie meer gemoedsrus | 06:29 |
| nuvolari | en die petrol is 'n bargain | 06:30 |
| nuvolari | :P | 06:30 |
| Kilos | ek bly vir jou seun | 06:30 |
| Kilos | petrol? | 06:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | petrol is cheaper at the coast | 06:30 |
| Kilos | he comes from durbs | 06:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh | 06:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I R confused, I thought you came from like bloem or something | 06:31 |
| Kilos | maybe less travelling | 06:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | apologies for the insult :) | 06:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:31 |
| Kilos | he is from bloem but worked in durbs for years | 06:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ah see i'm not completely dumb | 06:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | just a little | 06:32 |
| Kilos | must be the way you comb your hair | 06:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you can't comb 2cm of hair | 06:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 2mm rather | 06:33 |
| Kilos | haha do you also just run the hair cutting tool over everything | 06:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah, self-service barber | 06:34 |
| Kilos | me too, yay for wahl | 06:34 |
| Kilos | beard moush and hair | 06:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | seen how much those cost now? i got mine for under R100 way back when | 06:34 |
| Kilos | shaving sucks | 06:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | think they're over 300 already | 06:35 |
| Kilos | wow | 06:35 |
| Kilos | mine is about 20 or even 30 years old | 06:35 |
| Kilos | quality machines | 06:36 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | do you know what kind of oil is meant to be used for it? mine came with a little tubelet of oil which appears to have grown legs last time i wanted to use it | 06:37 |
| Kilos | i have just used Q20 after every cut | 06:38 |
| Kilos | protects against rust as well | 06:39 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ah i'll try that | 06:39 |
| Kilos | you really got my head in a tiz now with the ssd thing | 06:40 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sorry, was not my intention | 06:41 |
| Kilos | lol i want one now | 06:41 |
| Kilos | then ive got money for biltong and chocolate too | 06:41 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | how big is your /var/cache/munin/www directory? | 06:41 |
| Kilos | lemme go see | 06:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | zip it and dropbox it and i'll check out the graphs | 06:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | should be <10MB | 06:42 |
| bduk1 | Morning everyone | 06:44 |
| Kilos | 3.8 MiB | 06:44 |
| Kilos | hi bduk1 | 06:44 |
| Kilos | screenshot is ctrl+F10 hey? | 06:46 |
| Kilos | it even shows the time pc was off last night | 06:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | prtscn should do a screenshot | 06:47 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | well maybe, not sure how your DE is set up | 06:47 |
| Kilos | command not found | 06:49 |
| nuvolari | hrr, python geeks, which REPL's are available out there that you can recommend? I had one some time ago with tab-completion and colours, but I can for the life of me not remember what it was called :( | 06:50 |
| nuvolari | bpython seems close, but that wasn't it | 06:50 |
| bduk1 | Sorry the only python I know is a snak | 06:56 |
| bduk1 | Snake | 06:57 |
| nuvolari | ooh, I might actually be sold on bpython :P | 06:57 |
| nuvolari | lol bduk1 | 06:57 |
| nuvolari | that's OK | 06:57 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy: http://picpaste.com/munin-GH2P88g3.png | 07:01 |
| Kilos | ksnapshot worked | 07:01 |
| Kilos | i have no idea what all that stuff means | 07:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | thats why i asked you to zip and dropbox it, there's a lot more than just that graph | 07:03 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 07:04 |
| Kilos | i didnt even see that sorry | 07:04 |
| Kilos | was too busy | 07:05 |
| Kilos | so you want the www folder? | 07:05 |
| Kilos | can i send it unzipped | 07:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah | 07:05 |
| Kilos | ok lemme find my dropbox | 07:06 |
| Kilos | this can take a while, not sure where i saved dropbox info | 07:08 |
| superfly | good evening all | 07:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | good afterevemorn | 07:22 |
| Kilos | hi there superfly | 07:26 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy: i had to install dropbox first, now do i use the send link or invite you there? | 07:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | uh | 07:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i don't know i've never done that | 07:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you've shared stuff with me on dropbox before | 07:30 |
| Kilos | oh my | 07:30 |
| Kilos | so can you see my dropbox? | 07:31 |
| Kilos | im totally lost here | 07:31 |
| Kilos | try https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tsjrqlz1g7lvyqv/AAD5TxnPYBIJ7uXFIUCJ9guKa?dl=0 | 07:32 |
| Kilos | bduk: next week is too far away, cant you just call your supplier and see if i can fetch near here | 07:34 |
| bduk | problem is that most of the places where he get stock from is closed now | 07:38 |
| Kilos | how do i find someone in pta with stock then i can send ian to get one | 07:38 |
| Kilos | GoGoPowerRanger: is that you wraz | 07:40 |
| Kilos | Zarw: morning | 07:47 |
| Kilos | haha AndChat|99281 daai ding is siek man | 07:51 |
| Kilos | im not sure if you busy ThatGraemeGuy or if you didnt realise the link was for you | 07:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ta Kilos will check it out just now | 07:56 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:10 |
| Kilos | ok tomorrow im going with ian to rustenburg and get a 128G ssd for R1300 | 08:48 |
| bduk | kilos 128gb vir r1300 by corupted connections kolonade of 1tb vir r7000 by itworx | 09:05 |
| Kilos | sjoe is that 7000 or 700 | 09:06 |
| Kilos | and is that corrupt connections incredible connections | 09:07 |
| bduk | seven thousand | 09:07 |
| bduk | jip | 09:07 |
| Kilos | wow how can there be such a price differense | 09:07 |
| Kilos | someone is ripping someone off badly | 09:08 |
| bduk | its a 1 tb for 7000 | 09:08 |
| bduk | waas jou bril | 09:09 |
| Kilos | oh sorry i missed that | 09:09 |
| Kilos | lol skuus man | 09:09 |
| Kilos | dankie vir die info | 09:10 |
| bduk | byt vas tot volgende week man seker ons sal beter prys kry | 09:15 |
| Kilos | ja maar dan is ian nie hier nie | 09:15 |
| Kilos | hy se hy sal my vat | 09:15 |
| bduk | waar bly jy kilos | 09:17 |
| Kilos | wes van pretoria | 09:18 |
| bduk | hoe ver | 09:18 |
| Kilos | 6ks verby laaste robot by mahem | 09:18 |
| bduk | van der hof uit | 09:19 |
| Kilos | ja | 09:20 |
| Kilos | is daar nog een van hulle aan die noorde kant van pretoria | 09:20 |
| Kilos | op daai pad na julle toe was daar altyd een' | 09:21 |
| bduk | weet nie ken nie daaikant nie | 09:27 |
| Kilos | ek was jare laas daar gewees maar miskien het hulle toe gemaak daar want daai winkel wys nie op google maps nie | 09:29 |
| bduk | mazal se jy kan wootware ook probeer online shop | 09:30 |
| Kilos | waar is hulle | 09:31 |
| bduk | online | 09:31 |
| Kilos | R1,195.00 for die selle ding en dan moet ek wag, | 09:36 |
| bduk | se mos dis n slegte tyd vir sulke dinge | 09:38 |
| Kilos | ek sal maar saam met ian ry more na sy huis in rustenburg en een daar kry | 09:41 |
| Kilos | dan is dit in my hand | 09:41 |
| bduk | ok | 09:42 |
| Kilos | so net beter gewees het vandag want ek het 400m data wat middernag verval | 09:43 |
| Kilos | grrr | 09:43 |
| Kilos | dankie vir die hulp | 09:43 |
| bduk | volgende week gaan jy dalk hartseer wees as ek dalk n goeie prys vir jou kry | 09:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:45 |
| theblazehen | hi | 10:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: don't take the bigger drive man, 64GB is more than enough | 10:43 |
| inetpro | we also have incredible corruption here by us at Wonderpark | 10:44 |
| inetpro | but I'm sre you can get a better price at other places | 10:45 |
| inetpro | incredible corruption tends to be on the expensive side | 10:45 |
| inetpro | unless they have it on special | 10:46 |
| theblazehen | Hi.. | 10:47 |
| inetpro | hello theblazehen | 10:47 |
| bduk1 | Mornings | 10:48 |
| theblazehen | Hi | 10:48 |
| theblazehen | My quassel host ran out of disk space :/ | 10:48 |
| inetpro | ouch! | 10:48 |
| theblazehen | I wanted to see how long it would take to clone the android source there.. | 10:49 |
| theblazehen | Turns out android is bigger than 10 GB | 10:49 |
| Kilos | hmm... sorry was outside | 11:10 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: wow 10GB for a mobile OS is massive | 11:11 |
| Kilos | inetpro: the local shops only have the 128g ssd's | 11:11 |
| inetpro | hmm... have you phoned around? | 11:11 |
| Kilos | ian did | 11:11 |
| Kilos | its only that one site that has the 64g cheap like that | 11:12 |
| Kilos | i dunno how to find pcs shops in pta | 11:13 |
| Kilos | all centurion and far like that | 11:13 |
| Kilos | as you know google isnt my friend | 11:14 |
| Kilos | oh and morning inetpro theblazehen | 11:14 |
| inetpro | Incredible Connection, Wonderpark, Telephone: 012-549-9270 , 012-549-9280 | 11:15 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 11:16 |
| inetpro | Optimus Computer Solutions, 211 Bezuidenhout Street, +27 12 377 1861 | 11:19 |
| inetpro | Klasie Computers, 485 Sannie Street, +27 12 379 0392 | 11:20 |
| inetpro | Compu-Ants, 989 Keyter Street, +27 76 876 1054 | 11:21 |
| inetpro | found all those with a google map search in your area | 11:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ^^ | 11:22 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro R849 for 64g at wonderpark | 11:22 |
| inetpro | plenty other places, many of them not even listed as computer shops on google | 11:25 |
| Kilos | optimus will only have next year | 11:25 |
| Kilos | ty for the help | 11:26 |
| inetpro | yw | 11:26 |
| Kilos | ok i go wonderpark | 11:41 |
| Kilos | other places dont have or are temporarily closed down and you get home fones | 11:42 |
| * ThatGraemeGuy pokes Kilos | 12:11 | |
| theblazehen | inetpro: yeah, thats in source form .. linux is like 500 MB? | 13:06 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos | 13:06 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:39 |
| Kilos | corruptable connection | 13:40 |
| Kilos | fone and they say they have 64g in stock. get there and only 128m for R1399 | 13:41 |
| * Kilos cries | 13:41 | |
| bushtech | bastards | 13:42 |
| inetpro | eish! | 13:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: did you buy it? | 13:47 |
| Kilos | no | 13:47 |
| inetpro | good | 13:47 |
| Kilos | tried matrix and hifi corp as well. only 128m | 13:48 |
| inetpro | ai! | 13:48 |
| Kilos | what a low blow | 13:48 |
| inetpro | spend your money wisely only when you get the best deal | 13:49 |
| Kilos | that would be to order from loot.co.za i think it was for R538 | 13:49 |
| inetpro | yes that sounds much better | 13:50 |
| inetpro | and they would even deliver for free I think | 13:50 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: for what size is R538? | 14:03 |
| Kilos | 64g | 14:03 |
| Kilos | im trying to find the link | 14:04 |
| Kilos | http://www.loot.co.za/product/transcend-ssd340-series-solid-state-drive-64gb-sata-i/pvyl-2916-g650 | 14:06 |
| Kilos | first need to deposit cash in ians bank then order | 14:06 |
| Kilos | and thatgraemeguy poked me while i was away | 14:07 |
| Kilos | now he gone home already | 14:08 |
| Kilos | i worry though, everywhere else prices more than them | 14:17 |
| Kilos | http://www.pricewatch.com/gallery/hard_removable_drives/ssd_64gb\ | 14:17 |
| bduk1 | If it sounds to good tl be true it usualy is a catch | 14:41 |
| Kilos | thats what im worried about | 15:46 |
| Kilos | rather pay R1300 and have a 128g in my hand than stand a chance of losing 358 | 15:46 |
| theblazehen | ya | 15:52 |
| theblazehen | my 64 GB was 900 something | 15:52 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 15:55 |
| Kilos | how does one find out if they are genuine | 15:55 |
| Kilos | other than sending the mafia to the ceo's house | 15:56 |
| theblazehen | dunno | 15:57 |
| Kilos | took me a year to save R1400 | 16:00 |
| Kilos | so i bang to take chances | 16:00 |
| theblazehen | Eish, you sure big ssd is best idea? | 16:06 |
| theblazehen | maybe HDD, small ssd, and bcache? | 16:18 |
| Kilos | ya but to pay over R800 for 64g | 16:20 |
| Kilos | then surely R1300 for 128g isnt bad | 16:21 |
| theblazehen | I guess | 16:22 |
| theblazehen | Maybe see how much a 16 or 32 is? | 16:22 |
| Kilos | anyway other than buying online i cant find a place with 64g ssd's | 16:22 |
| theblazehen | Ah | 16:22 |
| * theblazehen has a 64 | 16:22 | |
| theblazehen | Nice, but little small. Will need to but a sata cable and the do bcache with laptop HDD | 16:22 |
| Kilos | will check tomorrow at incredible connection in rustenburg and maybe shop around some at those pc stores | 16:23 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:56 |
| Kilos | storming now | 17:56 |
| Kilos | http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/170595519/ADATA_Premier_Pro_SP600_ASP600S3_128GM_C_2_5_128GB_SATA_III_MLC_Internal_Solid_State_Drive_SSD_R.html | 19:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hey Kilos | 19:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | open up that munin page | 19:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if you have a minute | 19:48 |
| Kilos | theblazehen: ^^ | 19:48 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy sorry i was out | 19:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | np | 19:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | just wanted to point out the most meaningful graphs | 19:49 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: slowish for an SSD, but still a lot faster than a HDD | 19:50 |
| Kilos | whats the browser entry i put in please | 19:50 |
| Kilos | ian was busy here | 19:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | file:///var/cache/munin/www/index.html | 19:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | actually wait | 19:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | let me give you the direct links, even better | 19:51 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:51 |
| Kilos | it was open but he crashed the browser somehow | 19:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | file:///var/cache/munin/www/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/diskstats_iops/index.html | 19:52 |
| Kilos | opening 20+ links | 19:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | file:///var/cache/munin/www/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/diskstats_latency/index.html | 19:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | file:///var/cache/munin/www/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/cpu.html | 19:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | got them open? | 19:52 |
| Kilos | sec | 19:53 |
| Kilos | ok they open | 19:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ok first diskstats_iops | 19:54 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | those spikes are pretty high and close to the physical limit of a spinning platter disk | 19:55 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | latency is how long it takes a block device (i.e. hard disk, etc) to complete a write operation | 19:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | those aren't too horrible on average | 19:57 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but the cpu is the most obvious one | 19:57 |
| Kilos | what does that tell you? | 19:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the green/system and blue/user parts are the ones that would typically benefit from a better CPU | 19:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | those represent time the cpu spends doing calculations all on its own | 19:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and you can see those are very small | 19:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you are nowhere near maxing out the performance of even a single core | 19:58 |
| Kilos | oh cool | 19:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | see the scale on the left goes to 200? at 100% it means you are working 1 core very hard nearly constantly | 19:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you're around 10% or less | 19:59 |
| Kilos | now theblazehen says that link i gave him is a slow ssd | 19:59 |
| Kilos | yay | 20:00 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, mine gets like 70k IOPS, near 600 MB/s read | 20:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the purple part of the cpu graph is key, that's time spent by the CPU waiting for disk operations to complete | 20:00 |
| Kilos | theblazehen: where did you get yours | 20:00 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: online, wootware.co.za | 20:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and as you can see your CPU is spending a lot of time waiting for data to be fetched or written to disk | 20:00 |
| theblazehen | I have transcend | 20:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: also look at takealot.com, they tend to be good on pricing | 20:01 |
| Kilos | is the purple part the yellow in the centre | 20:01 |
| Kilos | i dont see purple | 20:01 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy: do you know delivery time of takealot because they in ct | 20:02 |
| Kilos | looked at them just now | 20:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | each item will have a delivery estimate | 20:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | are you colourblind? | 20:03 |
| Kilos | oh the top dark purple | 20:04 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah | 20:04 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | as you can see your cpu spends quite a bit of time waiting for disk operations | 20:05 |
| Kilos | yeah | 20:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | compare to my laptop with ssd: http://i.imgur.com/vmbI226.png | 20:05 |
| Kilos | oh wow no time waiting | 20:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah | 20:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | here let me reboot quickly | 20:06 |
| Kilos | yeah well now the thing is to find one | 20:06 |
| Kilos | did you time that | 20:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no | 20:08 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i guess under a minute | 20:08 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'll time it | 20:08 |
| Kilos | hehe was close to 35 secs methinks | 20:08 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | lol | 20:09 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | stupid freenode | 20:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:10 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it was 22 sec and freenode wouldn't let me on | 20:10 |
| Kilos | whew | 20:10 |
| Kilos | the link i gave theblazehen is slow he says | 20:10 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: Still fast | 20:11 |
| theblazehen | Just slow for a ssd | 20:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what's your budget and size you want | 20:11 |
| theblazehen | a HDD can do like 120 MB/s read | 20:11 |
| theblazehen | that ssd 300 something | 20:11 |
| Kilos | well the pro says 64g is fine for me | 20:11 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, it should be | 20:11 |
| theblazehen | My brother is on 16 GB.. | 20:11 |
| theblazehen | hah | 20:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | budget? | 20:11 |
| Kilos | i have 1400 now | 20:12 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | how much are you wanting to spend on the ssd? | 20:12 |
| Kilos | but need 150 for data again | 20:12 |
| Kilos | well as little as possible i think | 20:12 |
| Kilos | but up to 1200 | 20:13 |
| Kilos | that above link is for 735 and its a 128g | 20:13 |
| theblazehen | How about one of those hybrid drives, ThatGraemeGuy? | 20:13 |
| Kilos | and its in pretoria | 20:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | "as little as possible" is how you end up with slow SATA disks :) | 20:14 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: nah, RAID from flash disks you manage to find.. | 20:15 |
| theblazehen | Linux slow af on a USB disk.. | 20:15 |
| theblazehen | Maybe it's just gnome 3 | 20:15 |
| Kilos | ya ya but what is a good one gonna cost me ? is 1200 too min | 20:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://www.takealot.com/corsair-64gb-neutron-solid-state-drive/PLID32583051 | 20:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I'm not a great hardware nerd but afaik corsair is solid | 20:16 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: IOPS low.. | 20:16 |
| theblazehen | lemme see if I can find link to mine | 20:16 |
| Kilos | see shipped in 15 to 20 working days | 20:16 |
| Kilos | i might be dead b y then man | 20:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its within his budget and a whole lot faster than any SATA disk | 20:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | meh ok | 20:17 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | good luck then | 20:17 |
| theblazehen | Mine was also in 900 something, double the IOPS | 20:17 |
| Kilos | but i would go for that if it could be here in 2 days | 20:17 |
| Kilos | where is the bottleneck | 20:18 |
| theblazehen | http://www.wootware.co.za/transcend-ssd370-series-64gb-2-5-mlc-solid-state-drive.html ah, 700 something ! | 20:18 |
| theblazehen | ^ my one | 20:18 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: thoughts on that one? | 20:19 |
| Kilos | theblazehen: how much more for delivery costs | 20:20 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: not sure. | 20:20 |
| theblazehen | But not 200 more I'm sure.. | 20:21 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy: is the takealot one still have delivery charges to add | 20:21 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that one looks good | 20:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | takealot is free delivery for R300 and up i think | 20:22 |
| Kilos | thats good then ill go for that and sweat till it gets here | 20:23 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: which one? | 20:24 |
| inetpro | Kilos: on wootware there is a button titled calculate delivery, which is just below the name of the product. | 20:24 |
| inetpro | Simply click on this and fill in your street/postal code | 20:24 |
| Kilos | lemme see | 20:24 |
| Kilos | sjoe what is a street code | 20:27 |
| Kilos | i put postal code and it said please give a valid one | 20:27 |
| inetpro | Kilos: where will you want it delivered? | 20:28 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: they only open again 6 Jan.. | 20:28 |
| theblazehen | But they have live support that can help too | 20:28 |
| Kilos | right here if possible inetpro | 20:28 |
| inetpro | btw, size matters | 20:28 |
| Kilos | size? | 20:29 |
| inetpro | see: SSD performance scaling across the spectrum http://techreport.com/review/22358/ssd-performance-scaling-across-the-spectrum | 20:29 |
| inetpro | or To what extent is size a factor in SSD performance? http://superuser.com/questions/59798/to-what-extent-is-size-a-factor-in-ssd-performance | 20:29 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: yeah, but among the 64 GB my one is better than the other one that was posted | 20:30 |
| theblazehen | Double the IOPS | 20:30 |
| theblazehen | and almost double read | 20:30 |
| Kilos | oh bigger ones are faster | 20:30 |
| inetpro | I guess it depends on the specs as well | 20:30 |
| inetpro | I thought smaller would be faster | 20:31 |
| inetpro | you really have to compare apples with apples | 20:33 |
| Kilos | wb ThatGraemeGuy | 20:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mmm | 20:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | found a weird bug | 20:34 |
| inetpro | ThatGraemeGuy: what happened? | 20:34 |
| Kilos | that one you gave is 6g/s right | 20:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | plugged in my laptop charger and the little icon thingy didn't show it was charging | 20:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so i shut it off, and noticed that the little light on the laptop went off when i unplugged | 20:34 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: what's acpi say? | 20:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | plug in and boot again and now it shows its charging | 20:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so it looks like it doesn't realise it went into charge mode unless i reboot | 20:35 |
| Kilos | inetpro: that corsair one is more expensive but also much faster not so? | 20:36 |
| * inetpro not sure | 20:37 | |
| Kilos | http://www.takealot.com/corsair-64gb-neutron-solid-state-drive/PLID32583051 | 20:38 |
| Kilos | look specs | 20:38 |
| Kilos | Interface SATA 6Gbs | 20:39 |
| Kilos | theblazehen: one is 570MB/s, 470MB/s | 20:40 |
| Kilos | and if takealot dont charge delivery then its about () bucks diffs | 20:40 |
| Kilos | 90 | 20:41 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: hald the IOPS though | 20:41 |
| theblazehen | half | 20:41 |
| Kilos | so which one is faster | 20:42 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: my one | 20:42 |
| Kilos | oh my | 20:42 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy: ty for explaining the munin stuffs to me | 20:43 |
| Kilos | i cant get the delivery thing working | 20:44 |
| inetpro | try finding the 128GB specs and the compare pricing per MB | 20:44 |
| Kilos | Door-to-Door Courier | 20:44 |
| Kilos | Postal Code Detected, Please Use Valid Street Code R0.00 | 20:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: have you never had something delivered to your doorstep? | 20:45 |
| Kilos | ya my harddrive | 20:45 |
| Kilos | and this mothewrboard | 20:46 |
| inetpro | hmm.. and you entered the same physical address? | 20:46 |
| Kilos | 4KB Random Read-Up to 40,000 IOPS | 20:47 |
| Kilos | thats the 128g in pretoria | 20:47 |
| inetpro | theblazehen, ThatGraemeGuy: higher IOPS is faster, not? | 20:48 |
| Kilos | no man i told the sales person my co-ords | 20:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | higher is better yes, but don't get too stuck on that | 20:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'm pretty sure they all use different methods of measuring that, it doesn't really matter a whole lot for a desktop pc | 20:49 |
| Kilos | look at this one please | 20:49 |
| Kilos | http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/170595519/ADATA_Premier_Pro_SP600_ASP600S3_128GM_C_2_5_128GB_SATA_III_MLC_Internal_Solid_State_Drive_SSD_R.html | 20:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I'd go with the corsair personally | 20:50 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: Just brand preference, or is there a technical reason there too? | 20:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i don't know the brand but i do know corsair are pretty solid | 20:52 |
| inetpro | R971 / 64 GB = R15.17 per GB | 20:53 |
| inetpro | R720 / 64 GB = R11.25 per GB | 20:53 |
| inetpro | R737.49 / 128 GB = R5.76 per GB | 20:53 |
| superfly | I agree with ThatGraemeGuy | 20:53 |
| superfly | Corsair are decent | 20:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and i have a ton of experience that says that buying the cheapest is not always the correct choice | 20:53 |
| Kilos | ya inetpro but blaze says its slow the 128g | 20:53 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: slow is relative | 20:54 |
| Kilos | ai! | 20:54 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: will be way faster than a HDD | 20:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ignore that, any SSD you get will be orders of magnitude faster than a platter disk | 20:54 |
| theblazehen | basically any ssd is faster than hdd | 20:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | to the point that its pretty irrelevant for a desktop pc | 20:54 |
| inetpro | cool, I would say go with experience | 20:55 |
| Kilos | so we go corsair then | 20:55 |
| Kilos | this is a family decision | 20:55 |
| Kilos | 2 votes for corsair so far | 20:56 |
| inetpro | try find a 128 corsair and compare the pricing before you make the final decision | 20:56 |
| theblazehen | alright, another for the corsair | 20:56 |
| Kilos | whew this googling has had ian on pc for hours | 20:56 |
| Kilos | R1572 for 128g | 21:04 |
| Kilos | corsair that is | 21:06 |
| Kilos | methinks we go with the 64g corsair | 21:07 |
| Kilos | takealot dont seem to keep the corsair 12g they show cresent 128g | 21:11 |
| Kilos | oh i also saw somewhere they even have pcie ssd's | 21:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | night night all | 21:23 |
| inetpro | Hope you are ready for another big year. Wishing you great success, good health and happiness in 2015. Happy New Year!! | 21:35 |
| inetpro | good night | 21:36 |
| Kilos | night all | 21:38 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro and the same to you sir | 21:38 |
| theblazehen | Happy new year! | 22:00 |
| theblazehen | Damn, I was 55 seconds late | 22:11 |
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