[00:00] <kaz_> kazblox@LinuxPC:~$ sudo mkdir /tmp
[00:00] <kaz_> THERE
[00:00] <Savenport> ikonia: Nope. It was working last night and isn't working now. Didn't do any update/upgrades since then.
[00:00] <ikonia> Savenport: have a look in /var/log at the Xorg log
[00:00] <ikonia> Savenport: look for EE entries
[00:00] <Savenport> ikonia: I'll take a look, thanks!
[00:00] <kaz_> ikonia: kazblox@LinuxPC:~$ sudo mkdir /tmp
[00:00] <ikonia> kaz_: I'm not interested
[00:01]  * kaz_ uses his super magic wand to make ikonia interested... which doesn't work.
[00:03] <rypervenche> kaz_: sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[00:04] <Savenport> ikonia: There's an error line "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration". Any idea what that might mean off-hand?
[00:04] <rypervenche> kaz_: Don't go deleting things like that.
[00:04] <ikonia> Savenport: can you get say 10 lines above that and 10 lines bellow it and paste it all into a pastebin please.
[00:04] <kaz_> But I couldn't wipe out the stuff in tmp folder
[00:04] <kaz_> so I had to
[00:05] <Savenport> ikonia: I'll try. Know of any command-line tool for pasting to pastebin? :P I'm terrible with lynx...
[00:05] <ikonia> pastebinit
[00:05] <ikonia> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:05] <rypervenche> kaz_: You're not supposed to be wiping everything from /tmp ...
[00:05] <Savenport> ikonia: Awesome, thanks so much
[00:05] <ikonia> Savenport: also install gpm - it will allow you to use your mouse in the terminal
[00:06] <rypervenche> kaz_: I'd fix your permissions then reboot
[00:06] <ghost562> be back soon, upgrading os
[00:09] <kriskropd> I accidentally stopped a do-release-upgrade in the middle of reconfiguring samba on an LTS box - the machine thinks it is running the latest stable LTS now, however about 60 packages now have errors within them and I don't know how to fix them - I've tried 'sudp apt-get update; sudo dpkg --configure -a;sudo apt-get update' but that ends with the last apt-get update failing due to "Processing was halted because there were too many errors." ...
[00:09] <kriskropd> ... which it states after listing the 60 or so packages that seem to be damaged
[00:09] <Savenport> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648324/
[00:10] <ikonia> Savenport: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[00:11] <Savenport> ikonia: Yup. Should I pastebin it?
[00:11] <ikonia> Savenport: please
[00:13] <Savenport> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648341/
[00:14] <ikonia> Savenport: ok - so I would try to get it to fall back, the first thing I'd do is mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf to my home directory and reboot, this will allow Xorg to try to autodetect (and hopefully fall back to vesa mode)
[00:14] <ikonia> Savenport: then you can move forward with a working desktop to fix it
[00:15] <Steve_Jobs> looking for a way to monitor and report traffic per process
[00:15] <Savenport> ikonia: I'll give that a try, thanks so much for your help!
[00:15] <Steve_Jobs> I was running slurm and went away for a bit. I saw that 500MB was downloaded while I stepped away
[00:16] <Steve_Jobs> is there a way to get per hour and per day reports?
[00:16] <ikonia> monitoring / reporting tools
[00:16] <Steve_Jobs> ikonia: yes
[00:16] <ikonia> thats the way to do it
[00:16] <Steve_Jobs> I would like to keep things simple though
[00:16] <Steve_Jobs> ie, I'd rather make my own cron jobs or something
[00:17] <ikonia> do that then
[00:17] <Steve_Jobs> any ideas how you would do that?
[00:17] <ikonia> you can see network info with ifconfig and nettop, just script it
[00:17] <Steve_Jobs> iko
[00:18] <Steve_Jobs> ikonia: so what would the script look like to capture per hour and per day aggregates for the top 5 processes in network traffic for those periods?
[00:18] <ikonia> Steve_Jobs: format it /aggregate it how you feel best meets your needs
[00:18] <ikonia> I think it's a waste of time personally monitoring per process network traffic
[00:18] <ikonia> (from what you've told me)
[00:19] <Steve_Jobs> ikonia: well, I think there is one process that grabbed 500 MB in a very short time
[00:19] <Steve_Jobs> I'd like to know if shenanigans like that are happening
[00:19] <ikonia> shenanigans ?
[00:19] <Steve_Jobs> it's an expression
[00:20] <ikonia> if you know 500mb is downloaded you must have an idea of whats done it and why
[00:20] <theadmin> ikonia: "shenanigans" ~= "weird stuff"
[00:20] <Steve_Jobs> I don't
[00:20] <ikonia> Steve_Jobs then how do you know 500mb was downloaded
[00:20] <Steve_Jobs> it could be one of the VMs that's running
[00:20] <Steve_Jobs> when slurm runs it has a MBytes Received
[00:20] <Steve_Jobs> it just displays that
[00:21] <Steve_Jobs> there is no way to see what process did that even if I was watching
[00:21] <ikonia> how do you know it was 1 process
[00:21] <Steve_Jobs> ikonia: I don't know that either. I'm assuming it was
[00:21] <ikonia> thats a pretty wild assumption
[00:21] <ikonia> and it's sending you off on a witch hunt where there may not a need for one
[00:22] <Steve_Jobs> ikonia: well, I'd like to have a report why 0.5GB was downloaded
[00:22] <ikonia> then setup monitoring
[00:22] <Steve_Jobs> that's what I'm trying to do but in a report manner
[00:22] <ikonia> if you're running in VM's you'll find that hard to do
[00:23] <Savenport> ikonia: No luck. There are no longer any EE lines in the Xorg log, but it's still doing the same thing. Also totally freezes if I try to do service lightdm restart
[00:23] <Steve_Jobs> I can start looking at those in more detail and get reports from them
[00:23] <ikonia> Steve_Jobs: so it's dropping back each time
[00:23] <ikonia> Steve_Jobs: sorry not you
[00:23] <ikonia> Savenport: so it's dropping back to a tty
[00:24] <Savenport> ikonia: Yup
[00:24] <tckbrz> exit
[00:24] <ikonia> Savenport: can you pastebin the full xorg log please.
[00:25] <dts|pokeball> i have a new editor, and i would like to set it as the default for a certain file type. how can i do this?
[00:27] <Savenport> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648385/
[00:27] <tanater> whats the cammand on terminal 2 enable the wireless card?
[00:29] <dts|pokeball> ifconfig [interface] up # i think
[00:29] <Voyage> Hi, I am using kubuntu but I cannot use wireless. Its disabled. I guess I do not have drivers on my fresh install. How can I fix it?
[00:30] <dm7freek> Is there a diff in symlinking to foo as opposed to foo/ ?
[00:31] <tanater> it says syntax error
[00:31] <ikonia> Savenport: are there lines afer http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648385/
[00:31] <ikonia> oops
[00:31] <ikonia> afer 614
[00:32] <Savenport> ikonia: Nope, that's the end of the file
[00:32] <Savenport> tanater: Are you actually typing "[interface]" or are you typing the name of an interface (like wlan0)?
[00:32] <ikonia> Savenport: I'd suggest trying to force it to vesa
[00:32] <tanater> i typed interface
[00:32] <ikonia> Savenport: looks like the ati module is actually having a problem, hence the screen warning earlier
[00:33] <Savenport> ikonia: How would I go about forcing it to vesa?
[00:33] <dts|pokeball> tanater, you need to type the name of the interface
[00:33] <ikonia> Savenport: still got the old xorg file ?
[00:33] <dts|pokeball> dm7freek, what do you mean?
[00:33] <Savenport> ikonia: Yup!
[00:34] <Voyage> Hi, I am using kubuntu but I cannot use wireless. Its disabled. I guess I do not have drivers on my fresh install. How can I fix it?
[00:34] <ikonia> Savenport: put it back, and swap the line from Driver flgrx to driver vesa
[00:34] <Savenport> ikonia: K, I'll try that. Thanks!
[00:34] <dm7freek> dts|pokeball: if foo is a dir,   `ln -s foo bar`   vs.    `ln -s foo/ bar`
[00:35] <dts|pokeball> dm7freek, no difference
[00:35] <dts|pokeball> the / means that it absolutely is a dir is all
[00:35] <dts|pokeball> useful for something like cd f*/ versus cd f*
[00:36] <dm7freek> dts|pokeball: ah, so there is a small benefit to using /
[00:36] <dm7freek> ty
[00:36] <dts|pokeball> because cd f* could expand to cd fo # where fo is some file that is not a dir
[00:36] <dts|pokeball> np
[00:39] <country> hi
[00:41] <Savenport> ikonia: Still the same issue :( New Xorg error file is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648423/ Something about a "bound kernel driver"
[00:43] <ikonia> Savenport: can I have a look at your current xorg.conf please.
[00:44] <Savenport> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648431/
[00:45] <ikonia> Savenport: that should be enough to get it to fall back to vesa
[00:45] <ikonia> Savenport: seems to be struggling as it knows the ati module is there, but I don't quite see why thats a problem, never has been before
[00:45] <ikonia> I'll have to check it out as I've never seen that behaviour before
[00:46] <Savenport> ikonia: From the log, it definitely looks like it's trying. It's now trying to load the vesa module before failing (which it wasn't before)
[00:46] <ikonia> Savenport: you could try removing the ati package - although thats like cracking a nut with a hammer
[00:46] <ikonia> a bit agressive, but it maybe a quick fixer, as I'll need to research the ati module behaviour
[00:47] <Savenport> ikonia: Worth a try! Any chance you happen to know how I'd do that? I assume I'd need to figure out the name of the package and then use apt to remove it
[00:47] <ikonia> Savenport: apt-get purge $package
[00:47] <ikonia> Savenport: dpkg -l | grep -i ati
[00:47] <Savenport> ikonia: Awesome, thanks
[00:47] <nmatrix9> daftykins, You know how to make a directory world readable with smbclient?
[00:47] <ikonia> Savenport: dpkg -l | grep http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648431/
[00:47] <ikonia> oops
[00:48] <ikonia> Savenport: dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[00:48] <ikonia> Savenport: that should give you an idea on the packages you have installed that could be rmeoved
[00:48] <Savenport> ikonia: Would it just be the xorg wrapper for the driver? I'm not seeing a package for the driver itself
[00:49] <ikonia> Savenport: annoyingly I don't know the package name off the top of my head
[00:49] <ikonia> Savenport: I'd just be guessing, sorry
[00:49] <Savenport> ikonia: K, I'll spend some time seeing if I can figure it out. Thanks for all your help :)
[00:49] <ikonia> Savenport: no problem, looks like I need to do some research
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Savenport: Only a thought, as I too see nothing real real wrong: maybe, the X-server version was updated to a newer version that is now incompatible with the HD 2x/3x/4x series AMD cards. What returns; Terminal command -> X -version <- to determine the x-server version .
[00:54] <EriC^^> notfadssss: hey dude
[00:56] <Savenport> Bashing-om: 1.11.3. The release date is 2011-12-16, and I hadn't done any update/upgrade when this broke
[00:56] <Ace2Race> how do i get KgmailNotifier working... it wornt work
[00:57] <Bashing-om> Savenport: You are good in that department, less than X-server v1.12 .
[00:57] <Savenport> Bashing-om: Do you happen to know if newer versions of X-server did drop compatibility for those cards? I've been thinking about trying a dist-upgrade to try to fix this
[00:57] <Savenport> I got warnings about upgrading to 14.04 in the past, so I'm still on 12.04
[00:59] <LizardWizard> hello
[00:59] <LizardWizard> i have a hard time setting up my monitor configuration in every linux environment
[01:00] <LizardWizard> i have 1x 2560x1440p and 1x 1920x1080p monitor and i would like to configure them so that they work together
[01:00] <LizardWizard> but i always fuck up
[01:00] <jclayton> Hey Lizard
[01:00] <LizardWizard> is there a tutorial or something that covers this? i have not found anything
[01:00] <LizardWizard> hi :)
[01:00] <jclayton> Google
[01:00] <jclayton> LOL
[01:01] <Trfsrfr> I am getting Unable to access errors on an external hard drive. What can this low-experience user do to access or format this hard drive?
[01:01] <LizardWizard> i have but i didnt find anything for two monitors with different resolutions
[01:01] <EriC^^> LizardWizard: did you go to settings > display?
[01:01] <jclayton> Well it must be common. Im going to have a harder time with a USB monitor... haven't tried yet tho.
[01:01] <EriC^^> there you can configure the position and other stuff
[01:02] <Voyage> Hi, I am using kubuntu but I cannot use wireless. Its disabled. I guess I do not have drivers on my fresh install. How can I fix it?
[01:02] <goliath> LizardWizard: Eric is right
[01:02] <k1l> jclayton: please be helpful in here. we have a chitchat channel : #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:02] <LizardWizard> i have experienced crashes then i move a window between the two monitors
[01:03] <LizardWizard> my ubuntu is dead right now after i tried to install the newest amd drivers from the website
[01:03] <jclayton> i had that issue with my old laptop
[01:03] <jclayton> usually u need bumblebee to use two different drivers or vidoe cards
[01:05] <robert_j_p> Can someone help me, I installed "updates" on ubuntu 14.04 running under virtual box on windows. Kernel updates broke my guest additions as usual. I reinstalled but now I can only get low resolutions
[01:06] <k1l> dont listen to jclayton, you dont need bumblebee for amd cards
[01:06] <revo_> do i need to install any antivirus in ubuntu...to be able to use personal information...like purchasing, ebay, paypal, etc... ???
[01:07] <k1l> revo_: the security is not based on having a antivirus program running.
[01:07] <goliath> revo_: As long as you dont download programs from a third party source, you should be good
[01:07] <goliath> revo_: E.G: Only download Firefox from the official firefox website
[01:07] <revo_> so how do i set my system so it doesnt download for 3rd parties, etc...
[01:08] <k1l> revo_: its you to not loading 3rd party stuff.
[01:08] <goliath> revo_: Exact... Only download from official sites
[01:09] <revo_> so from software&update centre, i beleive there is something like 3rd party or canical software
[01:09] <revo_> is this safe or what settings should i have
[01:10] <goliath> revo_: Software center is good I think..
[01:10] <goliath> revo_: You don't look like someone who's gonna download a lotta stuff on your machine
[01:11] <Voyage> How to install driver for this? $ lspci -vnn | grep Network 0c:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Savenport: The last release that supports that card is the one you are running, 12.04.1 's stack. Anything later losses AMD support . AMD dropped support .
[01:11] <revo_> i recently followed this tutorial to change theme/apperance on my desktop, but nothing happend and cant change lit....
[01:11] <revo_> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/how-to-install-oxygen-transparent-style.html
[01:12] <Bashing-om> Savenport: IF you upgrade you are best served then to use the open source graphics driver .
[01:12] <revo_> are the commands here listed safe, or to be trusted, since i saw no changes in my machine?
[01:12] <goliath> revo_: Are you on a KDE or GNOME environnement?
[01:12] <revo_> xubuntu
[01:12] <robert_j_p> Can someone help me? I installed "updates" on ubuntu 14.04 running under virtual box on windows. I reinstalled guest addition but I can only get low resolutions /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows that it is trying to load an ati driver and failing but I have an intel integrated graphics card
[01:12] <revo_> how do i check between both
[01:13] <max_> oi estou com problema em fucionar meu emulador mame ja configurei mas nada...
[01:13] <goliath> revo_: Well... Have you installed Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[01:13] <k1l> revo_: that is a good example of "download something from a site and let it execute" even you don have any clue what its in there and what it does.
[01:13] <max_> ubuntu
[01:13] <revo_> neither...i have Xubuntu
[01:14] <k1l> revo_: that is the typical case of you breaking the security of your system
[01:14] <netf0x> How could I install gconf-service for the Atom Editor on 10.04?
[01:14] <goliath> revo_: The link you sent me is a tutorial for Ubuntu... Some commands might not work
[01:14] <k1l> !br | max_
[01:14] <revo_> goliath,  is it safe then
[01:15] <Guest22550> I want to do a dual boot with Linux Mint 17.1 and Android X86 4.4.2  and is there any easy way to have setup?
[01:15] <k1l> revo_: no, its not safe
[01:15] <goliath> netf0x: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11229707
[01:15] <netf0x> goliath, Ta :)
[01:15] <revo_> goliath,  i imagine then because im running Xubuntu the commands didnt work...right ???
[01:15] <goliath> revo_: Probably
[01:16] <revo_> what should i do now, is there any software to scan my system for bug/virus,etc...
[01:16] <sivik> clamav
[01:16] <netf0x> goliath, Sorry I meant the Editor from GitHub http://atom.io
[01:16] <k1l> revo_: no, there is no virus scan for linux. the security is that you dont run stuff that you dont know its safe.
[01:17] <sivik> kll there is a virus scanner for linux
[01:17] <sivik> clamav
[01:17] <k1l> sivik: it doenst scan for linux viruses :)
[01:17] <goliath> netf0x: Then I don't know.. Sorry
[01:17] <netf0x> goliath, No worries
[01:17] <revo_> sivik, k1l goliath  So what now gents, format and reinstall o
[01:18] <sivik> revo_, have you tried running a root checker on your machien?
[01:18] <sivik> machine*
[01:18] <k1l> sivik: you can use it to scan for windows viruses. but that doesnt make your ubuntu system more safe if you run scripts you dont know and that scripts open access to others
[01:18] <revo_> newbie m8
[01:18] <revo_> what commands should i use ???
[01:18] <goliath> revo_: OMG dude don't be paranoid.. There's no viruses on your system. For how long have you been using linux?
[01:19] <k1l> revo_: no. like i said: dont install stuff from other websites or from PPAs if you dont know what they actually do.
[01:19] <revo_> 1 week
[01:19] <revo_> goliath,  1 week
[01:19] <sivik> revo_, try this https://rootkit.nl/software/rootkit-hunter/
[01:19] <k1l> revo_: the stuff from the official ubuntu repo is safe. so you should stick to it first.
[01:19] <goliath> revo_: I'm 99.9% sure that nothing bad is running on your system
[01:19] <Stanley00> !virus | revo_
[01:19] <sivik> revo_, i agree with goliath
[01:20] <goliath> revo_: k1l is right
[01:20] <revo_> k1l,  so try what sivikhas sent <yes/no>
[01:20] <goliath> brb guys
[01:21] <k1l> revo_: rkhunter is a tool for advanced users. you will not be able to use it in a way it tells you if something malicious is going on.
[01:22] <revo_> man, hate not understanding about this OS
[01:22] <revo_> dont want to have to log bck into windows all the time
[01:23] <k1l> revo_: its all about you as a user. if you dont load stuff from "a website" and execute it on your system (like the webupdate howto theme thingy you just linked tells you to) you are safe since ubuntu will ship updates for the packages from the official repo when there is a security issue with them.
[01:23] <revo_> ok...one thing that is a must, how do i create a back up partition in this system and then maybe usb image if something goes wrong ???
[01:23] <goliath> revo_: What do you want to back-up?
[01:24] <goliath> revo_: k1l Is right again
[01:24] <revo_> goliath,  entire system, themes , data, the hole lot
[01:24] <k1l> revo_: so its not like on windows where you load malicious stuff from everywhere and blame the antivirus program not recognising it, on ubuntu its you use your brain to not load malicious stuff in the first place
[01:24] <revo_> k1l,  point taken..thx
[01:25] <goliath> revo_: http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090105114152803/Backup.html
[01:25] <revo_> goliath, thx
[01:25] <goliath> revo_: Choose for yourself! There's a lot of good projects out there... (And yes.. They are safe)
[01:25] <goliath> revo_: Np
[01:26] <revo_> grrrr
[01:26] <revo_> frustating again
[01:26] <revo_> so im assuming u guys have useddis soft
[01:27] <revo_> whats the easiest ??
[01:27] <EriC^^> revo_: just dd the partition
[01:27] <revo_> EriC^^,  hey hey ...how u been keppin bro ??
[01:27] <revo_> dd partition ???
[01:28] <EriC^^> dd if=/dev/sdxY of=/path/to/usb conv=sync,notrunc,noerror
[01:28] <revo_> terminal command ???
[01:28] <EriC^^> dd if=/path/to/usb of=/dev/sdxY conv=sync,noerror ( to restore it )
[01:28] <EriC^^> revo_: yes
[01:28] <goliath> revo_: Of course ahaha
[01:28] <EriC^^> heck, dd the whole disk if you can
[01:28] <EriC^^> /dev/sdx
[01:28] <revo_> ololol
[01:29] <revo_> EriC^^,  ok just to make sure...i just type dd if=/dev/sdxY of=/path/to/usb conv=sync,notrunc,noerror
[01:29] <revo_> in terminal ???
[01:29] <EriC^^> yes, add sudo
[01:29] <revo_> sudo before dd if=/dev/sdxY of=/path/to/usb conv=sync,notrunc,noerror
[01:29] <EriC^^> yes
[01:29] <revo_> sorry just to be sure
[01:30] <goliath> revo_: You need to change the "Y" in sdx for the number of your partition
[01:30] <EriC^^> yeah, use sudo parted -l to get the disk names, the usb name is crucial
[01:30] <revo_> dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sdxY’: No such file or directory
[01:30] <EriC^^> getting it wrong and you'll overwrite another disk
[01:30] <goliath> Omg this guy--'
[01:31] <EriC^^> revo_: is the usb plugged in?
[01:31] <revo_> yes
[01:31] <EriC^^> revo_: ok, type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[01:32] <Tenkawa> hello
[01:32] <Dark> hello
[01:32] <EriC^^> revo_: how big is the usb?
[01:32] <Dark> algum br
[01:32] <revo_> EriC^^,  jsut unmounted
[01:32] <Bashing-om> revo_: You my friend are letting Windows paranoia get to you. This is not windows. There is no 'real' need to back up your sytem. You backup personal files - (any system files you have edited, maybe ). In the event of catastrophic failure then (RE-)install and copy your files back. I have been committed to ubuntu since release 9.04 and have never ever had a need to do else .
[01:32] <Tenkawa> anyone know how to off hand quick rebild an iso image with a filr replacement? (need to change oyt a efi boot file)
[01:32] <Tenkawa> er out
[01:32] <Tenkawa> thanks
[01:33] <Tenkawa> s/fiir/file
[01:33] <Dark> alguem brasileiro
[01:33] <revo_> Bashing-om,  not being paranoid my freind...just like to backmy stuff in case i need it!!! simple
[01:33] <revo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648582/
[01:33] <Dark> alguem é brasileiro
[01:33] <EriC^^> revo_: yeah Bashing-om is right, backing up your home dir is enough, although a backup could come in handy to get things up and running in case of a mishap
[01:34] <daftykins> nmatrix9: smbclient is a client :) pretty sure it's not going to change anything for you.
[01:34] <nmatrix9> daftykins, no chmod commands?
[01:34] <revo_> EriC^^,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648582/
[01:34] <Dark> oi
[01:34] <Dark> alguem é br
[01:34] <Stanley00> Tenkawa: you can look at here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:34] <Bashing-om> revo_: I understand, simple is back up files and (RE-)install .. YOU will loose nothing .. system files are system files. There is absolutely no need to copy system files that are on the install medium .
[01:34] <EriC^^> revo_: ok, how big is the usb?
[01:35] <daftykins> nmatrix9: doubt it. check out its' man page for more. so, what progress have you made? were you able to view the contents of a share with smbclient?
[01:35] <Tenkawa> Stanley00: appreciate it
[01:35] <revo_> got a 2gb
[01:35] <Dark> algum sabe como criar canais aqui pro xChat
[01:35] <k1l> !br | Dark
[01:36] <revo_> Bashing-om,  so the ideia is the same as windows, create a rescue disk for when things go wrong i can recover all to its current state/condition
[01:36] <matschaffer> is there a place I could find out what ./configure options were used for nginx-1.4.6-1ubuntu3.1 ? Looks like I’m gonna need a rebuild to pull in nginx-auth-ldap and hoping to keep the new version close to the provided package
[01:36] <lolWatHehOk> could somebody suggest me some source so that I will learn how to use linux more efficiently? Where do I start? I am a newbie (somewhat)
[01:37] <revo_> EriC^^,  2g
[01:37] <revo_> 2 GB...misstyped
[01:38]  * EriC^^ hoping for a 20gb mistyped
[01:38] <EriC^^> ... anything?
[01:38] <revo_> ok....i can get that from my PS3 games ~HDD
[01:38] <nmatrix9> daftykins, yes
[01:39] <matschaffer> lolWatHehOk: is this more newbie than where you are? http://www.codecademy.com/blog/72-getting-comfortable-in-the-terminal-linux
[01:39] <EriC^^> revo_: the usb needs to be as large as the installation to back it up
[01:39] <revo_> EriC^^,  yes can get that, but need to partition drive
[01:39] <daftykins> nmatrix9: with the user and pass you were trying previously?
[01:39] <revo_> ok got it...
[01:39] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I logged in as root
[01:39] <EriC^^> revo_: ok, if you know what you're doing though
[01:39] <Bashing-om> revo_: Again, no . your 'rescue disk is that liveDVD . In 'buntu with time effort and a liveDVD it is all fixable. Many times however is quicker and easier to just (RE-)install . You will learn that all that is needed is to back up personal fioles and keep a "change Log" of all edits that you make to the initial install . IF one installs lots of additional packages there are tools in the package management system to make the (RE-)install seamles
[01:39] <daftykins> nmatrix9: into what?
[01:40] <lolWatHehOk> matschaffer, seems like a great source. thanks.
[01:40] <nmatrix9> daftykins, into my upload folder
[01:40] <nmatrix9> brb
[01:40] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[01:41] <revo_> dude, u guys r deep ... what r u btw ...engineers????
[01:41] <daftykins> nmatrix9: sounds like your NAS isn't setting permissions on existing files
[01:41] <daftykins> revo_: we are the internet
[01:41] <revo_> loloo
[01:41] <matschaffer> lolWatHehOk: np! looks like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal also has some good stuff in there
[01:42] <nmatrix9> daftykins, My thoughts exactly.
[01:42] <revo_> looks like it...everytime i pop here u guys here as well...
[01:43] <revo_> EriC^^,  Bashing-om  daftykins  ill leave that for now, need to get HDD ready, do u guys have PS3 ID to add u to my contact list ????
[01:43] <Bashing-om> revo_: For the most part we are but - like you - users . You too will get to our level . There is a saying " we are all on some point of the learning curve " .
[01:43] <daftykins> revo_: nah, xbox here
[01:43] <goliath> daftykins: lol
[01:43] <daftykins> goliath: ?
[01:44] <revo_> Bashing-om,  fingers x ... i think if i get 2 yoru level ill be on loads of money and sitting behind a confortable desk
[01:44] <Bashing-om> revo_: Nah too on other contacts .. here or on ubuntuforums.org .
[01:44] <goliath> daftykins: Sorry.. Misread
[01:45] <revo_> daftykins,  still can hook up online for batmann arkham origins online
[01:46] <Bashing-om> revo_: For truth, wait 2 years and you will see . That is all it takes to be "comfortable" with this operating system .
[01:46] <revo_> Bashing-om,  again...see it to beleive ...but yeah keeping my self positive about that
[01:47] <nmatrix9> daftykins, not even sure how that is possible
[01:48] <revo_> EriC^^,  Bashing-om  daftykins see u all later ... thx once again for assistance
[01:56] <daftykins> nmatrix9: seems to me like your reset didn't quite work right 0o
[02:05] <Linxcat> what else actually runs when you boot into console mode? do the services start or you have to start them? will my internet connect automatically or i have to run it through the console?
[02:06] <EriC^^> Linxcat: console mode?
[02:06] <Linxcat> EriC^^: without GUI
[02:06] <EriC^^> Linxcat: you mean adding text in grub?
[02:06] <k1l> everything runs, that is not dependend on the desktop. so automount will not work since its done by the file browser etc.
[02:07] <Linxcat> k1l: what about networking?
[02:07] <EriC^^> Linxcat: how are you arriving at console mode?
[02:08] <k1l> Linxcat: is this a server or is it a desktop just boooted into console?
[02:08] <k1l> if lightdm is not triggered there will be no network if its done by networkmanager.
[02:09] <Linxcat> kil: desktop. i am in GUI environment. I am just asking because i want to boot into console mode and run just in console mode with multiple screens
[02:12] <k1l> you can setup network in /etc/interfaces if you want to be sure. but networkmanager got some cli stuff
[02:12] <skao> Linxcat: is it just for experimenting around, or are you trying to achieve with console mode?
[02:13] <goliath> Linxcat: When you boot, just do Ctrl+Alt+F1 and proceed in console mode?
[02:13] <Linxcat> skao: experimenting. im am slowly beginning to like terminals's power :)
[02:14] <k1l> Linxcat: i would just let it boot to lightdm and then ctrl+alt+f1
[02:14] <EriC^^> Linxcat: if you add "text" to your kernel line it should boot to a tty and you'll have network manager
[02:15] <EriC^^> i'd go with k1l 's suggestion though
[02:15] <Linxcat> tty=text telephone?
[02:15] <EriC^^> as you'll be bored in an hour
[02:15] <Linxcat> :)
[02:15] <goliath> ahahah
[02:17] <ribuluols> how to close the xwindow to use text terminal only in ubuntu
[02:18] <EriC^^> ribuluols: sudo service lightdm stop
[02:18] <ribuluols> thx~
[02:18] <ribuluols> i'll try
[02:23] <aFeijo_> hi folks, I mounted a webdav (box.com) account, I can create a file, save it, delete using vim. But it wont work for copying files! I try with cp and scp, it return an error: input/output error, what can I do?
[02:24] <Linxcat> dont i just need to "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" when i log into console mode for setup my network?
[02:25] <Linxcat> everything should be already in that script
[02:25] <daftykins> Linxcat: that hasn't worked right for years.
[02:25] <Linxcat> lol
[02:26] <daftykins> script? do you mean /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:27] <clockwork_> Hello
[02:27] <Linxcat> daftykins: no i mean /etc/init.d/networking. its a script that, from what i understand, setups up the networking
[02:28] <daftykins> well no, it applies what's in the config files (the one i mentioned above)
[02:28] <daftykins> but it only really works at boot
[02:28] <clockwork_> Is anyone here familiar with Virtualbox VRDE? I already checked the #vbox channel and it's dead.
[02:29] <daftykins> so dead channels makes it an ubuntu question? :)
[02:30] <clockwork_> Well I am on ubuntu
[02:31] <Stanley00> clockwork_: just ask your question, and try if you are lucky :3
[02:31] <clockwork_> I've asked, no responses at all, just people logging on and off the channel
[02:31] <clockwork_> so it's alive, but everyone is mute it seems
[02:31] <daftykins> might be something to do with the time of year
[02:32] <clockwork_> Maybe
[02:32] <daftykins> but yeah so far you've only asked if anyone's familiar with it, might as well ask the *actual* question
[02:32] <clockwork_> Okay then
[02:34] <clockwork_> I have enabled VRDE in virtualbox and assigned it's IP to my internal IP with the port beeing 25565, I try and connect through rdesktop and i'll get a window opening but then it disconnects.
[02:34] <clockwork_> I've tried numerous solutions and nothing has helped
[02:34] <clockwork_> Do any of you know what I might be doing wrong here?
[02:35] <daftykins> do you mean you gave a VM an IP on your physical LAN?
[02:35] <Stanley00> clockwork_: you connect from the same host or from other host? what kind of authencation? and did you install vbox extension?
[02:37] <clockwork_> I assigned it to an IP on my LAN, I haven't portfowarded it yet, the authentication type is external and I have vbox extension, I even checked using "VBoxManager list ext""
[02:37] <daftykins> so it responds to ping?
[02:37] <clockwork_> It does respond to my ping
[02:37] <daftykins> ok so it's there at least
[02:37] <daftykins> why would port forwards have any relevance here?
[02:37] <daftykins> if you're connecting locally
[02:38] <clockwork_> locally is just for testing purposes, later i will be portfowarding to access the VM on the go.
[02:38] <mike802> http://mike802.blogspot.com/2014/12/stuck.html
[02:38] <clockwork_> but still, i don't know why I mentioned that. :?
[02:38] <Stanley00> clockwork_: what kind of network connection did you use? bridge or nat?
[02:39] <clockwork_> I'm using NAT
[02:39] <Stanley00> clockwork_: I think that the problem, nat is only visible to your host, not entry lan network
[02:39] <daftykins> why NAT? why not bridged networking?
[02:39] <daftykins> you can't give the VM an IP on your physical network if you're NAT'ing 0o
[02:40] <daftykins> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch07.html#vbox-auth
[02:40] <clockwork_> for some odd reason the VM isn't liking me using a bridged adapter, it's worked on my other computer but not this one.
[02:41] <daftykins> well NAT is going to land you in a whole host of trouble, so solve that first
[02:41] <daftykins> no pun intended on the 'host of trouble' - ugh i need to get this seen to
[02:41] <clockwork_> Okay, i'll be back whenever I fix the Network issue
[02:44] <Stanley00> clockwork_: just one though, if you still want to use nat, you can port forward too, then connect from outside using your host ip
[02:47] <clockwork_> Stanley, so if I wanted to I could use nat, but use would be limited to access from computers other than the host?
[02:47] <clockwork_> over the public IP
[02:48] <Stanley00> clockwork_: what do you mean?
[02:48] <clockwork_> About what you said
[02:49] <clockwork_> using the NAT adapter, if I portfoward, I can still connect but using only the public IP?
[02:49] <clockwork_> (Sorry, bad with words)
[02:51] <Stanley00> clockwork_: hmm... let have an example. Your guest with ip 10.0.2.15 (NATTED), and your host ip is 192.168.1.10 , then you can forward 192.168.1.10:8080 to 10.0.2.15:9090 (via setting in virtual box), then when you connect from outside (192.168.1.111 for example), to 192.168.1.10:8080 you will be redirect to 10.0.2.15:9090
[02:53] <clockwork_> Ah, okay.
[02:53] <clockwork_> Stanley00, I'll try that.
[02:57] <MacDude> Hello everyone!
[02:57] <EriC^^> hello
[02:57] <Stanley00> clockwork_: but wait a minute, I think when you remote desktop, your host is the one who listening, so you don't need forward
[02:57] <Stanley00> clockwork_: did you try connect to your host ip with remote port?
[02:58] <MacDude> I have a question about a Google Talk plugin on a Mac. I know it's unrelated to Ubuntu, bought thought someone here could help solve the issue with the Google Talk plugin creating rogue files on the Mac.
[02:58] <mike802> sometimes you have to add your ip to the hosts file, idk
[02:59] <MacDude> Exact file being created is GoogleVoiceAndVideoAccelSetup.
[02:59] <clockwork_> Yes, I did
[03:00] <clockwork_> I did connect using the remote port
[03:03] <chocolatte> hello everyone ...
[03:03]  * Snake2k hugs chocolatte 
[03:03] <Snake2k> chocolatte: Sup?
[03:04] <Stanley00> clockwork_: so, what is you authencation method again?
[03:04] <chocolatte> is bsd die yet? is there anybody use bsd for their server?
[03:04] <chocolatte> sorry, if this is oot
[03:04] <clockwork_> It's external
[03:04] <clockwork_> if I set it to be guest, it will give me a broken pipe error
[03:05] <Stanley00> clockwork_: and you have an external authencation lib/server/or something like that?
[03:05] <clockwork_> then then on External I get a connection closed
[03:05] <clockwork_> No, I don't believe I do
[03:06] <ablest1980> hi
[03:06] <Stanley00> clockwork_: well, guest need you to setup guest addion tools on the guest host, maybe you need set it to null
[03:06] <raparkhurst> hi everyone
[03:06] <ablest1980> hi
[03:06] <chocolatte> suup?
[03:07] <raparkhurst> chocolatte:  nothing much...trying to compile wine from source
[03:07] <raparkhurst> you?
[03:07] <clockwork_> Oh, I hate compiling Wine from source >_<
[03:07] <clockwork_> Let mesee if that works, Stanley
[03:07] <chocolatte> apt-get?
[03:08] <raparkhurst> yeah...i'm getting there..
[03:08] <clockwork_> Oh, yay it worked! :)
[03:08] <clockwork_> Thanks, stanley
[03:08] <Stanley00> clockwork_: welcome :3
[03:11] <Snake2k> chocolatte: BSD still exists? :|
[03:12] <chocolatte> dunno
[03:12] <Dat> FreeBSD is good stuff
[03:12] <Snake2k> I installed FreeBSD once, it scared me.
[03:12] <Dat> :<
[03:12] <raparkhurst> Snake2k:  me too
[03:13] <raparkhurst> it's powering my NAS though (FreeNAS) so I can't complain...it works :)
[03:14] <Snake2k> Server stuffz
[03:15] <chocolatte> i think it's good for very low-end server
[03:17] <newmember> i run several nas4free servers which used freebsd 9.3 kernel.  I use it for the zfs
[03:19] <ki7rw> i've been unable to get hdmi to work on my XPS15 - tried different nvidia drivers and bumblebee - http://pastebin.com/rjuPGVh0
[03:20] <ki7rw> i don't know if it ever worked - i'm just now trying to get it to work - so far google searches haven't turned up a solution
[03:21] <Guest81366> hey
[03:21] <ki7rw> ubuntu 14.04
[03:29] <andlabs|2> Hi. I've got my /home partition ddrescue'd here. I can't mount it directly, as it needs to replay a journal which doesn't seem to be valid... and when I run fsck on a copy of the disk image, it doesn't even try to recover my /home directory or some of the folders immediately within, leaving me with a ton of random inodes in lost+found. Is there any other option I have to try to get my directory structure back? Thanks.
[03:38] <andlabs|2> ALTERNATIVE QUESTION: is there a way, given a ddrescue'd image and log, to find out what specifically is lost in an ext4 partition?
[03:40]  * l33t-h4x0r come to #hackercafe for l33t hacker talk
[04:04] <Basketball> your profile could not be loaded correctly some features may be unabailable. Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents
[04:06] <daftykins> Basketball: that's nice, does it come with a question? or perhaps a program name? i'm gonna guess browser... so check permissions
[04:10] <TommyT2> what channel is best for a basic Xchat (irc client) question?
[04:11] <daftykins> TommyT2: #freenode
[04:11] <basil1x> daftykins, I think he's on about Chrome
[04:11] <basil1x> Basketball, I mean.
[04:11] <TommyT2> @daftykins thanks
[04:11] <daftykins> basil1x: yeah, the point was how useless a contextless message is
[04:13] <sam_cnet> first timer any words of advice.
[04:15] <Bashing-om> sam_cnet: Welcome, like this, Use it, Break it Fix it , ( if it ain't broke you have not tweaked on it enough ).
[04:15] <basil1x> Don't be afraid of breaking things.  Do backups, and just reinstall if things go librarian-poo.
[04:16] <sam_cnet> I'm running an instance on digitalocean any feedback
[04:17] <curiousx> sam_cnet: check the support <tab> there you can chat with them
[04:17] <daftykins> +1 to the above, when you have support options use them
[04:18] <basil1x> What's digitalocean when it's at home?
[04:18] <andlabs|2>  ok third question then: can I use something like spinrite to try to fix this hard drive so I can get those remaining 64kb back
[04:19] <daftykins> basil1x: VPS provider
[04:20] <sam_cnet> any bots in this channel>
[04:20] <EiEiOhh> 14.04. I've set up a static IP but I cant set it to automatically connect. I must click on the network connection name in order to connect
[04:20] <daftykins> andlabs|2: spinrite is a total joke, what happened exactly? few bad sectors?
[04:20] <daftykins> EiEiOhh: i think you edit the profile and set it to start that automatically
[04:21] <daftykins> via a tickbox perhaps
[04:22] <basil1x> AH.  Ta.
[04:22] <andlabs|2> daftykins: a few bad sectors, yes; but enough to have a corrupt journal and my personal home folder's entry be nulled out (seemingly; I don't buy it though...)
[04:23] <daftykins> andlabs|2: not one of those sitations where you can mess with backup superblocks and the like, then? the volume mounts?
[04:24] <EiEiOhh> daftykins, General tab - Auto connect when avail & All users may connect. IPv4 tab method - Manual but when I change it automatic DHCP or Automatic DHCP addresses only, my address disappears
[04:25] <daftykins> well yeah because DHCP means 'get it from the router'
[04:25] <daftykins> i'm not sure what you're confused by there?
[04:26] <daftykins> if this is a desktop with a wired interface you want to keep static, just bypass network manager entirely by setting up the interface in /etc/network/interfaces - remove resolvconf and statically define your nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:26] <EiEiOhh> doh.. right.. that tab will assign IP address..
[04:26] <andlabs|3> daftykins: the volume does not mount without fsck, which leads to the lost+found mess because of the missing /home/pietro entry
[04:26] <andlabs|3> if there was a way to find out /what/ got damaged given the ddrescue log, that would be great
[04:27] <daftykins> andlabs|3: tried testdisk instead? i don't know anything about it mind you
[04:28] <andlabs|3> daftykins: I can try that; does it have a read-only option or will I need to provide it a rewritable partition image
[04:29] <daftykins> no idea i'm afraid
[04:29] <daftykins> not sure of its' capabilities
[04:29] <EiEiOhh> daftykins, thanks.. will go that route
[04:31] <Bashing-om> andlabs|3: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step , http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Menu_Analyse , http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ .
[04:32] <andlabs|3> 0thanks in the meantime
[04:32] <andlabs|3> doesn't look like it, so I'll make a copy of th edisk image and see whast happens
[04:32] <andlabs|3> (I need to get used to this new keyboard...)
[04:38] <andlabs|3> Bashing-om: thanks; will check
[04:39] <Bashing-om> andlabs|3: Good luck. hard work pays off better :)
[04:44] <XCVB> my dad fucked with the wifi
[04:44] <XCVB> wrong channel
[04:59] <sujata> can anybody tell me how to extract .tgz file?
[04:59] <modelengine> hello all, for the past few months online vids have been choppy/stutter every now and then when my wife watches vids on HGTV.com. this also seems to effect Youtube
[04:59] <modelengine> any ideas?
[05:00] <Airia> modelengine: maybe try to reinstall flash/video codecs?
[05:00] <Chuck_Norris> sujata: right click on it > Extract here
[05:00] <daftykins> modelengine: browser?
[05:01] <modelengine> Airia: yeah, i did that, also went into firefox about config and disabled OOPP
[05:01] <modelengine> or rather plugin container
[05:01] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9492325/
[05:02] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: why paste bin? ppl have always asked me to do it, but what does it do? np doing that just curious
[05:02] <sujata> chuck norris: thanx
[05:03] <Chuck_Norris> sujata: np
[05:04] <sh1n3> lol
[05:04] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: ?
[05:04] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: becouse that command doesn't fit in one line in irssi at 1080p so, in the paste it is in one line, so you can copy and paste into your terminal easyly
[05:05] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: ahhh....thank you so, somehow paste bin makes it fit nicer and neater in the irc channel
[05:05] <Chuck_Norris> yeah
[05:06] <sujata> chuck_Norris: can you tell me how can i read .frm file?
[05:07] <crazyhorse18> i need to sort a bunhc of photos by the date they were created.. wahts a good picture thumbnail display program
[05:08] <daftykins> nautilus? 0o
[05:08] <crazyhorse18> daftykins, it doens't do it
[05:08] <crazyhorse18> need to get out of the exif-metadata
[05:08] <daftykins> it doesn't allow sort by date created and thumbnail view?
[05:08] <crazyhorse18> date-created != date photo taken
[05:08] <Chuck_Norris> sujata: idk
[05:09] <daftykins> alright be awkward then! :D
[05:09] <crazyhorse18> it's a pity you can't just add it to a column.. i used a plugin before.. but it made nautilus incredibly slow
[05:10] <Chuck_Norris> sujata: but googling says that it is like a "data base" maybe with mysql you can read that kind of files but...
[05:11] <Chuck_Norris> sujata: http://www.corporatezen.com/2013/11/restore-an-innodb-mysql-database-from-frm-and-ibdata1-files-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[05:12] <sujata> chuck norris:  i am working with language pair so i am trying to download the corpus from net but when i am extracting i am not able to read
[05:12] <Chuck_Norris> sujata: do a: file archive.frm
[05:13] <sujata> chuck norris: sorry
[05:13] <Chuck_Norris> sujata: np
[05:15] <sujata> chuck norris: can you help me out where can i able to get the corpus on which i can work on?
[05:15] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: should i use paste bin every time i type a line into chat?
[05:16] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: if the command it is short it is not needed
[05:17] <Chuck_Norris> sujata: idk about programing, and this is ubuntu related channel, so... sry but you might find some help asking in channel related to what you are working on
[05:17] <Chuck_Norris> in a* channel...
[05:18] <sujata> chuck norris: ok i will try it
[05:18] <Chuck_Norris> !alis | sujata
[05:19] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: sys info: firefox 34.0, ubuntu trusty, nvidia gt430. vid is choppy when playing vids on HGTV.com, mostly my wife watches construction/renovation shows, so not really taxing graphically.
[05:20] <daftykins> at last, the answer is firefox
[05:20] <modelengine> daftykins: sys info: firefox 34.0, ubuntu trusty, nvidia gt430. vid is choppy when playing vids on HGTV.com, mostly my wife watches construction/renovation shows, so not really taxing graphically.
[05:20] <daftykins> yeah don't repeat like that, it's spammy
[05:21] <modelengine> yeah, i just forgot to put ur handle in there too
[05:21] <daftykins> i'm not familiar with that site and i won't check it out, but if youtube is playing up have you tried removing the flash player and tested the HTML5 player?
[05:21] <modelengine> i'm sorry but i didnt put a site in.
[05:22] <daftykins> what?
[05:22] <modelengine> oh, my gosh forgive me i understand now
[05:22] <sujata> chuck norris: i will go to alis channel
[05:22] <modelengine> daftykins: no i haven't. so i should just remove it thru firefox or through ubuntu soft cent?
[05:23] <daftykins> "it" ?
[05:23] <modelengine> sorry, the flash player
[05:23] <daftykins> yeah remove the package, might work
[05:23] <daftykins> or disable it
[05:23] <daftykins> whichever works for you :D
[05:24] <modelengine> daftykins: how to test html5 player?
[05:24] <daftykins> 1) disable flash 2) visit youtube 3) test away
[05:24] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: http://youtube.com/html5
[05:24] <modelengine> but doesn't youtube run off flash. if i disable it how will i see vid?
[05:24] <daftykins> also, are you using nouveau or the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[05:24] <daftykins> modelengine: *facepalm* HTML5 player will kick in without flash present
[05:25] <ghost562> hello folks, im on 14.04 and i want to go from using lightdm to gmd or kdm, how do i go upon doing that?
[05:25] <modelengine> daftykins: oh....lol yeah facepalm
[05:25] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: click on the button: "Request html5"
[05:25] <modelengine> daftykins: i will check drivers right now. also can you recommend me a less buggy browser?
[05:26] <daftykins> there's nothing buggy about firefox
[05:26] <daftykins> there's a bit of a... situation right now with flash and Linux though, so tough times lie ahead
[05:28] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: are you useing the privative driver from nvidia?
[05:28] <daftykins> i asked that already
[05:28] <modelengine> daftykins: and Chuck_Norris: used html5, which is now default, fixed youtube lag issues
[05:29] <modelengine> checking drivers now
[05:29] <Chuck_Norris> cool
[05:31] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: and daftykins: i couldn't fig out which driver using so took a screen shot. here it is: http://imgur.com/H8A75NZ
[05:32] <Chuck_Norris> ok, then it is the one from nvidia, it's ok, its perform best
[05:33] <daftykins> nvidia-304, mm.
[05:33] <daftykins> you could always try newer
[05:34] <Chuck_Norris> *even though, open comunity should support open driver but...*
[05:35] <modelengine> i tried the newest one in the beginning and it screwed up my whole system really badly. to a point where i couldn't even get a gui to load in the shell to diag probs
[05:35] <Chuck_Norris> it's 304 becouse it is legacy i think
[05:35] <Chuck_Norris> yeah, a newer driver could black the screen so on and so forth
[05:36] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: do i have to go 'download as text' and then copy and paste or can i just do it like i have been and you will still be able to read it via irssi?
[05:36] <daftykins> i don't know if a gt430 is
[05:37] <modelengine> yeah it caused real probs for me so i carefully researched this driver before installing.
[05:37] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: just copy and paste the command, even though, youtube it is working fine, you can leave it as it
[05:38] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: so i should leave it at html5 and not go back to other flash?
[05:38] <Chuck_Norris> there is a rule in computer science: "If it work, dont touch it" or something like that :p
[05:38] <modelengine> Chuck_Norris: lol :)
[05:38] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: xD
[05:39] <modelengine> from what i can tell, it seems to be adobe flash that is the common thread
[05:39] <modelengine> daftykins: and Chuck_Norris: thanks for the help1
[05:39] <modelengine> oops meant: !
[05:40] <Chuck_Norris> oh! yeah, since i start using computers, adobe flash was always a common failure
[05:40] <Chuck_Norris> modelengine: np
[05:40] <modelengine> from what i can remember flash has been having these probs for years and years
[05:40] <modelengine> what gives?
[05:41] <Chuck_Norris> yeah! security related issues and everything
[05:41] <modelengine> well i gtg but thank you all! and happy new year
[05:42] <Chuck_Norris> ok, modelengine np, happy new year too
[06:17] <computerichy> or8
[06:17] <rypervenche> Is it possible to run i3 and Unity at the same time?
[06:18] <computerichy> Yes
[06:18] <computerichy> true
[06:21] <cfhowlett> rypervenche, of course
[06:21] <rypervenche> Cool. Thanks.
[06:24] <rypervenche> Does Ubuntu still use nautilus as its file manager?
[06:24] <sherlock_regus> yes
[06:24] <xangua> vanilla Ubuntu yes rypervenche
[06:27] <basil1x> you can install Thunar easily, and use it instead.  I do.  Works a treat.
[06:42] <sherlock_regus> can someone tell me about a helpful python channel
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> Happy new-year to all ubuntu users this evening http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/ubuntu-in-2014-news-highlights
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> sherlock_regus: #python maybe
[06:43] <sherlock_regus> and an android development other than #android-dev
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !alis | sherlock_regus
[06:43] <sherlock_regus> nope they are just talking about plane crash
[06:44] <cfhowlett> sherlock_regus, you might find the "programming in python" #1 - #8 useful:  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/tag/special/
[06:45] <Australopithecus> Hello my computer keeps hardfreezing even after I did a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04.1
[06:45] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: can you press ctrl+alt+f1 when it hard freezes?
[06:46] <Australopithecus> does nothing
[06:46] <Australopithecus> still hardfrozen
[06:46] <sherlock_regus> thanks
[06:46] <Australopithecus> I just reinstalled it a minute ago and about 5 minutes into using it it hardfroze
[06:46] <EriC^^> ok does holding alt+printscreen then typing slowly "reisub" restart it?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: what kind of machine is your pc?
[06:47] <Australopithecus> yes
[06:48] <daftykins> EriC^^: i swear i need to breed octopus children for that one
[06:49] <Australopithecus> It is a intel Core 2 Due CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz x 2, Gallium 0.4 on NV86, 2.0gb ram
[06:49] <daftykins> *Duo
[06:50] <Australopithecus> if there is a terminal command to print off all necessary hardware info I can pastebin it
[06:50] <cfhowlett> Australopithecus, sudo lshw
[06:50] <Australopithecus> As soon as I updated from 12.10 it started having these problems
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: it would be interesting do do a real fresh install, not upgrade
[06:51] <Australopithecus> although hardfreezes were still irregular
[06:51] <Australopithecus> I did do a real fresh install
[06:51] <Australopithecus> like 10 minutes ago
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: so its no left-over from 12.10?
[06:52] <Australopithecus> none
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:52] <Australopithecus> I formated the system drive
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: did you enabled updates during setup/internet enabled?
[06:53] <Australopithecus> no
[06:53] <Australopithecus> should I have?
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: its reccomended to do that, to have ubuntu choose best drivers
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: what kind of grafix card and driver do you have?
[06:54] <Australopithecus> ok ok I will try another reinstall, pastebin.com/GL2E8krG
[06:54] <Australopithecus> that is all the system info
[06:55] <Australopithecus>  G86 [GeForce 8500 GT]
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: is that an optimus card?
[06:56] <Australopithecus> I think so
[06:56] <Australopithecus> from a quick google search
[06:56] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: did you check dmesg?
[06:56] <Australopithecus> no how would I do that?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: i also seen some acer aspire freezing an BIOS with netboot disabled
[06:56] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: dmesg | pastebinit
[06:56] <Australopithecus> ok
[06:56] <EriC^^> or just type dmesg and paste it
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: if its an optimus card you need nvidia-prime
[06:57] <dm> anybody ever use amd workstation cards on 4 monitor setups
[06:57] <PsiJet> I need to eventually customize the look of my Ubuntu.
[06:57]  * PsiJet sighs
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> !theme | PsiJet
[06:58] <dm> PsiJet: i feel ya
[06:58] <PsiJet> I know about that. Just trying to figure out how to get it like I want it. LOL
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> PsiJet: checkout deviantart on ubuntu desktop shots for nice ideas
[06:58] <dm> i find that everytime i make it look half decent, i find another look i like
[06:59] <BlackStar10> Hi I'm new here would anyone talk to me
[06:59] <Australopithecus> dmesg output is: pastebin.com/DjP919DW
[06:59] <PsiJet> I know what I want, but it's hard to explain. I know I have to download compiz, bleh
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> BlackStar10: this channel is for support only mate
[06:59] <dm> do you ever check out unixporn on reddit
[06:59] <PsiJet> On occasion. I should probably check that out more huh
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> keep it ontopic guys
[06:59] <BlackStar10> Oh ok support for what
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> BlackStar10: ubuntu support problems
[07:00] <Australopithecus> @lotuspsychje so I should just sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: yes i would start there, if your card is really an optimus
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | Australopithecus
[07:00] <Australopithecus> ok ok
[07:02] <Australopithecus> do you think that will fix my hardfreezing problem
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: not sure, issues can come from different points
[07:03] <Australopithecus> true enough
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: we can only try everything in the book :p
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: would this be an issue? [   11.224600] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: registered panic notifier
[07:05] <Australopithecus> From my experience with ubuntu it seems like video cards can be a problem due to proprietary drivers but im pretty out of touch and making a conjecture
[07:05] <Australopithecus> maybe things have changed
[07:05] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: hmm don't know, it's early on in the boot, no idea
[07:05] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: /var/log/syslog might help
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: i would try nvidia-prime instead of nouveau
[07:07] <Australopithecus> not sure if it is optimus
[07:07] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: lspci | grep VGA
[07:08] <Australopithecus> 1:00.0 VGA compatiable controller: NVIDIA Corporation G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] (rev a1)
[07:09] <Australopithecus> its pretty old
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: i dont see optimus here http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8500_tech_specs.html
[07:10] <Australopithecus> it probably isnt
[07:11] <daftykins> that card has nothing to do with optimus
[07:11] <Australopithecus> yeah
[07:11] <daftykins> the core 2 duo didn't have onboard graphics, so it's discrete only :)
[07:11] <daftykins> nn \o
[07:11] <Australopithecus> they did
[07:11] <daftykins> maybe via chipset, not on-die
[07:11] <Australopithecus> this thing has a shitty amd onboard graphic card
[07:11] <Australopithecus> oh fair enough
[07:12] <daftykins> hrmm, see if it freezes when you use that? worth a go
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: maybe also try what EriC^^ suggest tail -f /var/log/syslog before your freeze, see what errors you get
[07:13] <Australopithecus> ok ok
[07:13] <Australopithecus> will try that
[07:13] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: type cat /var/log/syslog and upload it
[07:14] <Australopithecus> ok ok
[07:14] <Australopithecus> 1 minute
[07:14] <cfhowlett_> Australopithecus, OR cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> lol lets solve this before newyear
[07:16] <sherlock_regus> jython??
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> maybe its compiz crashing on his 'older' card
[07:19] <Australopithecus> cat /var/log/syslog gives pastebin.com/7QQRJxbV
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> i dont see anything weird at first sight
[07:21] <Australopithecus> I reset my computer would that have messed up the log
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: did you try other drivers yet, from additional drivers list?
[07:22] <jimmyd> I thiught drivers were for windows??
[07:22] <Australopithecus> drivers are just what allow your operating system to interface with hardware
[07:22] <Australopithecus> from my understanding
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: could try a switch from drivers, or install ccsm and disable active blur
[07:23] <Australopithecus> the problem with these crashes is they are hard to recreate
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: did any other ubuntu ever work on this machine?
[07:24] <Australopithecus> yes I have been running ubuntu since like 6.0 on it lol
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> kk
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: they way i would do it, is clean install 14.04.1 with internet cable/updates on
[07:24] <Australopithecus> ok
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: update system fully and see if that helps
[07:25] <jimmyd> is therea way to compare the files with the last working one to see if there is a defferance
[07:25] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: did you upload the syslog? :D
[07:25] <Australopithecus> yeah
[07:25] <EriC^^> jimmyd: diff
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: pastebin.com/7QQRJxbV
[07:25] <Australopithecus> but it doesnt really have anything good in it I dont think
[07:25] <jimmyd> sure
[07:25] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: thanks
[07:27] <Australopithecus> thanks for all the help btw I appreciate it
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: does your grafix and overall speed run smooth ?
[07:28] <Australopithecus> yes
[07:28] <Australopithecus> everything runs pretty fast
[07:28] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: why do you have rtkit installed?
[07:28] <Australopithecus> cant even tell its an old comp
[07:28] <Australopithecus> everything installed came stock
[07:29] <Australopithecus> I just installed 14.04.1 and havent installed anything on it
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: when does it freeze mostly? same times?
[07:29] <Australopithecus> it freezes just randomly
[07:29] <Australopithecus> or seemingly
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: no warnings or errors are weird
[07:30] <Australopithecus> yeah idk
[07:30] <cfhowlett_> Australopithecus, when my compaq failed, it exhibited the exact same thing.  tracked the cause after much frustration to a PMCIA card flap spring contacting the mobo >>> shorting out.  too late to save the laptop sadly and turned out to be a common source of pain with that make/model
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> yeah sounds like some hardware bottleneck
[07:31] <Australopithecus> I once had a ethernet card die and cause my computer to only half turn on
[07:31] <Australopithecus> but yeah
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: you didnt install new hardware recently?
[07:31] <Australopithecus> maybe this old thing is dying
[07:32] <Australopithecus> nope
[07:32] <Australopithecus> this is stock install
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: ubuntu runs fine on old hardware
[07:32] <Australopithecus> yeah I know
[07:32] <cfhowlett_> Australopithecus, but l/x/ubuntu might run better
[07:32] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: boot it in textmode and run something cpu intensive or something
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> i still use an old amd 3200+ with ati x800 fast as rocket here
[07:32] <rzeka> I am about to set automatic backups on server but I'm wondering. Is it better to connect to target machine from source or to source from target. In 1st case, when I have 3 different sources, I cannot tell if previous backup is done so I might get 2 backups running at the same time. In 2nd method, if backup server is hacked anyone may get access to other servers with ease (login through ssh keys)
[07:32] <cfhowlett_> !server | rzeka
[07:33] <rzeka> ha, thanks
[07:33] <Australopithecus> it runs pretty fast I dont think I need to switch to a lightweight distro
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> i dont think so neither
[07:33] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: when it's running check "top"
[07:34] <Australopithecus> what do you mean by "top" EriC^^?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> i would start over fresh cable/updates on then switch drivers if it keeps freezing
[07:34] <EriC^^> it's a command that shows the processes with highest usage on top
[07:35] <Australopithecus> oh so like a terminal process manager
[07:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> Australopithecus: can you remember what driver module loaded on your previous working ubuntu versions?
[07:36] <Australopithecus> no clue im using X.Org X server
[07:36] <Australopithecus> atm
[07:37] <Australopithecus> as the driver for my graphics card
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> try some other grafix drivers in your list, to test the freezes
[07:38] <Australopithecus> Xorg , then compiz and plugin-con+ are all some of the top running processes when running top
[07:38] <Australopithecus> firefox is of course the top process
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> im out, happy newyear to all!
[07:39] <Australopithecus> ok ok thanks for the help
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> np
[07:39] <Australopithecus> Im going to just try what you guys suggested mess with drivers and turn off active blurr
[07:40] <Australopithecus> if freezing keeps occuring if I can get a good log of the crash I will bring it with me back
[07:40] <Australopithecus> here
[07:41] <Australopithecus> thanks again everyone and happy newyears I need to get some patent drawings done tonight and its already 2:41am :S
[07:41] <EriC^^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[07:41] <Australopithecus> thanks eric
[07:42] <Australopithecus> I will check that out
[07:42] <EriC^^> Australopithecus: in short alt+printscreen+1 , then with t
[07:42] <EriC^^> it'll try to dump the log to /var/log/kern
[07:42] <EriC^^> *kern.log
[07:42] <EriC^^> ( after it has crashed )
[07:42] <Australopithecus> ok
[07:43] <Australopithecus> I wrote that down
[07:43] <Australopithecus> you guys are great I appreciate all the help so much
[07:46] <drooooid> hello everyone
[07:51] <ghost_> hi
[07:51] <ghost_> is this working?
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> no hibernate option in ubuntu 13.10
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> in ultrabook
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> in dual boot
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> with win8
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> i think i deleted the swap space
[07:54] <cfhowlett_> sherlock_regus, and 13.10 is end of life = unsupported = you should not be using it
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> in win 8 also i'm getting the same prob
[07:54] <cfhowlett_> sherlock_regus, so it's not an ubuntu issue then ...
[07:55] <sherlock_regus> yup
[07:55] <sherlock_regus> but it occured after installing ubuntu
[07:55] <sherlock_regus> its the swap space which got deleted during the installation
[07:56] <cfhowlett_> !swap | sherlock_regus,
[07:56] <sherlock_regus> how can i create a new swap space
[07:56] <EriC^^> gparted
[07:56] <cfhowlett_> sherlock_regus, read the wiki
[07:57] <sherlock_regus> no when i was trying to repair this hibernate prob
[07:57] <sherlock_regus> i got a meassage that swap space is not present
[07:58] <cfhowlett_> sherlock_regus, did you even read??? the wiki tells how exactly how to create swap space.  read the resources people send you for best results.
[07:59] <sherlock_regus> i was telling u what i was notified by ubuntu
[08:00] <cfhowlett_> sherlock_regus, and I told you how to fix it.
[08:00] <sherlock_regus> kk
[08:02] <sherlock_regus> can u just help me directly i'm not able to follow them
[08:02] <cfhowlett_> sherlock_regus, lol!  ... no
[08:02] <sherlock_regus> i was not asking u
[08:03] <sherlock_regus> i asked someone who knows something abt it
[08:03] <sherlock_regus> :P
[08:04] <cfhowlett_> sherlock_regus, 3rd line:  "This FAQ is aimed at Linux novices."  Best of luck
[08:05] <ravi_> hi
[08:05] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: technically you did ask him then.
[08:05] <ravi_> how to install latest flash plugin
[08:05] <cfhowlett_> !flash | ravi_
[08:05] <ravi_> in software centre it is not avaliable
[08:05] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: on a less pedantic note, stop being a jackass and lose the attitude
[08:06] <ravi_> i need flash player plugin
[08:06] <cfhowlett_> Raven67854, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[08:07] <cfhowlett_> ravi_, exactly as xangua told you in your cross post
[08:10] <ravi_> thanks cfhowlett
[08:10] <cfhowlett_> ravi_, happy2help!
[08:10] <ravi_> do i need to download again?
[08:10] <ravi_> as I have already downloaded from adobe site
[08:10] <cfhowlett_> ravi_, run - the - command - as - given
[08:36] <webflashing> Hi everyone, its my first time here. I recently installed Ubuntu Gnome 14.10. After several restarts, im experiencing that whenever the pc boots, I see the desktop background and the mouse pointer but no enviroment at all. Im able to switch to another tty, but unable to open a terminal from the current one. The only solution is to press Win + L to lock, unclok and then the enviroment appears. Any idea what could be causing this or how can I start inv
[08:36] <webflashing> estigating what could be causing this problem? Thanks very much!
[08:50] <parsnip> Can I make an argument to a shortcut? Like "/usr/bin/konsole mutt" ?
[08:52] <dts|pokeball> parsnip, do you mean like just running mutt executes /usr/bin/konsole mutt?
[08:52] <dts|pokeball> parsnip, do you mean like just running kmutt executes /usr/bin/konsole mutt?**
[08:54] <dts|pokeball> gonna go to bed, so if thats what you were after the answer is alias kmutt="/usr/bin/konsole mutt"
[08:54] <dts|pokeball> and put that in /etc/bash.bashrc or something like that
[08:54] <parsnip> I've never run kmutt. I mean to make a lanucher app.
[08:55] <dts|pokeball> kmutt isnt a real program. just some name i came up with
[08:55] <parsnip> *a launcher shortcut
[08:56] <dts|pokeball> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[08:56] <dts|pokeball> like this?
[08:56] <Sh3r1ff> parsnip: when you create a launcher, just put in command exactly what you would run when using a terminal
[08:57] <dts|pokeball> oh wait... launcher... /faceepalm
[08:57] <parsnip> I can add a screenshot.
[08:59] <giover> ciao a tutti
[08:59] <Sh3r1ff> parsnip: for what do you want to create a launcher?
[08:59] <parsnip> To open Mutt
[08:59] <parsnip> Not sure if screenshot worked, maybe I should use Dropbox.
[08:59] <parsnip> https://my.owndrive.com/public.php?service=files&t=17f7bd4d633c6162fe997fdd56c78ad2
[09:01] <cfhowlett_> parsnip, it worked
[09:02] <faruk> hello
[09:03] <faruk> hello sid'
[09:03] <drooooid> faruk: who's sid'?
[09:03] <Sh3r1ff> parsnip: so what exactly is your issue?
[09:03] <drooooid> oh, he just quit
[09:04] <parsnip> I would like to have a shorcut to Mutt, but command as '/usr/bin/konsole mutt' doesn't work. I feel like that may be close, and syntax may be obvious to someone.
[09:05] <frenda> How to install python-central + policykit? It says: python-central (>= 0.6.7) but it is not installable, policykit but it is not installable
[09:05] <frenda> E: Package 'policykit' has no installation candidate
[09:06] <EriC^^> parsnip: konsole is the terminal right?
[09:06] <parsnip> Yes
[09:06] <EriC^^> and mutt is what?
[09:06] <parsnip> An email client used in terminal
[09:07] <Sh3r1ff> parsnip: just put mutt as the command and there must be an option somewhere to select "run in terminal"
[09:07] <parsnip> I tried that, I'll try it again. Yeah, on advanced tab in that screenshot.
[09:07] <EriC^^> parsnip: open a terminal and type konsole -x mutt , does it open a new terminal?
[09:08] <EriC^^> ( with mutt running )
[09:08] <parsnip> unknown option 'x'
[09:08] <EriC^^> try -e
[09:09] <parsnip> It opened.
[09:09] <EriC^^> parsnip: ok change the .desktop's Exec=konsole -e mutt
[09:09] <parsnip> In ~/ ?
[09:10] <EriC^^> where is the shortcut you're making?
[09:10] <EriC^^> type gksu nautilus /usr/share/applications
[09:10] <EriC^^> and copy one there and modify the copy, or take it to your /home/user dir
[09:11] <frenda> does 'policykit' have renamed?
[09:11] <EriC^^> !find policykit
[09:11] <frenda> !find python-central
[09:11] <parsnip> Ah, there is a mutt.desktop there.
[09:11] <parsnip> Did I make that?
[09:12] <drooooid> holy crap
[09:12] <jeevan> Hello all, I am new to linux Ubuntu, planing to start learning . can some one help me how an wherer to start
[09:12] <EriC^^> parsnip: if you double click it what happens
[09:12] <parsnip> Ah, so it has a line, "Exec=mutt %u"
[09:13] <kostkon> parsnip, is Terminal set to True?
[09:13] <parsnip> yes.
[09:13] <frenda> I'm going to install a software which is based on python-central :( and python-central is not available for Trusty!?
[09:13] <drooooid> jeevan: start by looking for ubuntu ebooks
[09:13] <parsnip> Should I prepend "konsole -e" then?
[09:14] <kostkon> parsnip, it should work then. Probably it was there all along, just use that desktop file
[09:14] <kostkon> parsnip, no
[09:15] <parsnip> Hmm. It works when I click on it. Did I make that thing, or more likely when it was installed?
[09:15] <EriC^^> parsnip: most likely it was installed
[09:15] <kostkon> parsnip, the latter
[09:16] <ghost_> hi
[09:16] <EriC^^> parsnip: remember if you double click it in nautilus right now you're running it as root
[09:16] <parsnip> I'm in dolphin. I never sudo'd.
[09:16] <EriC^^> no gksu?
[09:16] <parsnip> I would have had to install gksu
[09:16] <EriC^^> ok
[09:16] <parsnip> Never got to that step
[09:17] <parsnip> KDE
[09:17] <ghost_> can u guys see me?
[09:17] <kostkon> ghost_, y
[09:17] <kostkon> ghost_, hi
[09:17] <ghost_> sorry that's my first time using irc client
[09:17] <ghost_> just testing it
[09:17] <parsnip> Yeah, I think I reversed my menu mods, and desktop app is still there. Never really was aware of this applications folder. Seems so Mac OS X like.
[09:18] <ghost_> hi kostkon
[09:19] <parsnip> Thanks all!
[09:20] <cfhowlett_> jeevan, www.fullcirclemagazine.org   download issue #0.  read.  learn.  repeat.
[09:20] <ghost_> test
[09:20] <kostkon> !manual | jeevan, also this
[09:21] <ghost_> h
[09:22] <moza> Hello
[09:22] <ghost_> hi
[09:22] <ghost_> h
[09:24] <ghost_> guys what's the color of my text?
[09:24] <cfhowlett_> ghost_, whatever each client sets it to.
[09:24] <drooooid> it's white, ghost_
[09:24] <ghost_> oh ok
[09:24] <ghost_> so it's random each time?
[09:24] <ghost_> thanks
[09:25] <breabish> hey for all
[09:25] <ghost_> hi
[09:25] <EriC^^> ghost_: no it's just that every client sets it according to the selected theme or it's default colors
[09:25] <Sh3r1ff> ghost_: it isn't random, it is default, however i set my text color is how i see it
[09:25] <ghost_> oh ok thanks ^.^
[09:26] <EriC^^> ghost_: you can force a color if you want, like bla
[09:26] <ghost_> oh cool
[09:26] <ghost_> tnx
[09:26] <EriC^^> ctrl+k
[09:26] <parsnip> quit
[09:27] <parsnip> brain is gone
[09:27] <drooooid> did parsnip say "brain is gone"?
[09:28] <kostkon> drooooid, so?
[09:28] <drooooid> just funny
[09:28] <kostkon> drooooid, ok
[09:37] <Generator_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9649706/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/9649707/ these are my libev installation directory, I have tried to configure my package with few possible library locations, still getting "Didn't find the libev library dir" error. Please help.
[09:39] <Dat> hrmm
[09:39] <Generator_> :(
[09:39] <drooooid> Generator_: could you use command: find / -name *libev*
[09:42] <Generator_> ok let me try
[09:43] <Generator_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9649741/ drooooid here is the result, what do u think which path should i use as prefix ?
[09:44] <drooooid> try 76 or 77
[09:44] <Generator_> hmm ok
[09:45] <drooooid> or 56
[09:45] <moza> Hello again,  thught all was going well since i installed my new graphics card, but apparently something happened and my graphics stopped working. Now i wonder if it's not a nouveau/nvidia conflict or what steps i could take to understand the problem and fix it.
[09:45] <moza> I thought*
[09:45] <drooooid> or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[09:46] <Generator_> drooooid I tried that, and nothing I can find in docs
[09:48] <Generator_> drooooid oh :P I was using wrong prefix option
[09:48] <Generator_> its OK now compiled :D
[09:55] <Guest17808> after an upgrade to a new release, how do I find all packages which no longer have an install candidate (things which were in PPA which no longer exist, etc.)?
[09:57] <drooooid> Generator_: lol
[09:57] <cfhowlett_> Guest17808, no auto magic that I know of.  apt-get install fail is a sure sign.
[09:58] <sheer> Hi all. I'm worried. Recently installed linux. Connected an external HDD. Tried to copy a file over, I think the cable moved from the USB port -- now I can see the HDD showing but no files appear in it.
[09:58] <sivik> what file system is it?
[09:59] <sheer> sivik: i'm not sure
[10:00] <sheer> 908gb used, contents: nothing
[10:00] <sivik> sheer, it might not be mounted properly which would cause the files to now show up right
[10:00] <sheer> when i look in properties
[10:00] <sheer> how might I fix that?
[10:00] <sivik> run the mount command from command line and it should show the file system type
[10:01] <sheer> would you tell me the command to type in? I'm new to linux
[10:01] <sivik> mount
[10:01] <sheer> I type in mount? that can't be it
[10:01] <sivik> why can it not be?
[10:02] <sheer> i'm only surprised it's that simple
[10:02] <sheer> some stuff came up - not sure what to do with this info
[10:02] <Guest17808> cfhowlett_: ah, not finding which ones can't be installed any more. I'm interested in finding installed packages which no longer have a source in apt.
[10:03] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: type fdisk -l and identify your external hdd and type mount to see if it is mounted or not
[10:03] <sheer> fdisk -l seems to do nothing
[10:03] <sivik> you have to run it as root
[10:04] <sivik> sudo fdisk -l
[10:04] <sheer> thank you,
[10:04] <gabridodo> ciao
[10:04] <sheer> "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted"
[10:04] <HeweloDere> When I try to connect to my VNC, I get this error: The connection was refused by the host computer.
[10:04] <sheer> "Partition 1 does not start on a physical sector boundary."
[10:04] <HeweloDere> It's probably a noob mistake. =/
[10:05] <sivik> HeweloDere, probably firewall blocking it.
[10:05] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: both not relevant to your problem
[10:05] <gabridodo> |list
[10:05] <sheer> Sh3r1ff: i'll post the bit
[10:05] <HeweloDere> sivik: What would I need to do to stop the firewall blocking it?
[10:05] <sivik> turn off iptables and then test it and then turn iptablers back on after your test is complete.
[10:06] <sheer> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rus20TuG
[10:06] <HeweloDere> I'm on Digital Ocean and I'm pretty sure IP Tables isn't on?
[10:06] <sivik> wtf is digital ocean
[10:06] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: use netstat to verify if there is something listening on the port
[10:06] <k1l_> HeweloDere: are you trying it with the root user?
[10:06] <HeweloDere> k1l_: Yes.
[10:07] <HeweloDere> When I connect, I use mydomain.com (replacing it)
[10:07] <k1l_> HeweloDere: make a regular user and use that
[10:07] <HeweloDere> What's the format for connection in VNC?
[10:07] <sivik> Try using the IP address instead of the domain name.
[10:07] <HeweloDere> Is it like user@mydomain.com:port/password
[10:07] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: no paste the result of the mount command
[10:08] <HeweloDere> sivik: Same error.
[10:08] <Sh3r1ff> * now
[10:08] <HeweloDere> I'm connecting with this, but my actual IP: http://i.imgur.com/VNRY8Oa.png
[10:08] <sivik> HeweloDere, try reading this https://docs.uabgrid.uab.edu/wiki/Setting_Up_VNC_Session
[10:09] <sheer> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MMQcgVEX
[10:09] <sivik> sheer, /dev/sdb1 is your external usb drive
[10:10] <sheer> sivik: what do I do with this to make it work again?
[10:10] <Turingi> do ubuntu LTS users get updates other than security backports? i.e. new features in existing packages or new packages, or more recent versions of existing packages?
[10:10] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: the external is mounted on /media/zvi/EXTERNAL
[10:10] <sheer> Sh3r1ff: i see external under devices but there's nothing showing in it
[10:10] <sheer> something isn't right
[10:11] <sivik> sheer, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775649
[10:11] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: try to unmount it and mount it again
[10:12] <sheer> Sh3r1ff: did that, i also restarted the pc
[10:12] <sivik> sheer, did you look at that post I gave you
[10:12] <sheer> i'm looking over it
[10:12] <sheer> i don't quite understand what i see
[10:13] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: what does ls -la /media/zvi/EXTERNAL give ya?
[10:13] <sivik> try #6
[10:13] <sheer> Sh3r1ff: "ls: reading directory /media/zvi/EXTERNAL: Input/output error
[10:13] <sheer> total 0"
[10:14] <sivik> It needs to be remounted
[10:14] <sivik> You probably don't have the ntfs-3g installed
[10:14] <sivik> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config what does that do for you sheer
[10:14] <sheer> sivik: it's probably not because i get an error
[10:14] <sheer> no such file/dir
[10:15] <sheer> installing it sivik
[10:15] <sheer> done
[10:15] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: umount /media/zvi/EXTERNAL; mkdir /mnt/test; mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[10:16] <Sh3r1ff> try that
[10:16] <sheer> not working
[10:16] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: what error?
[10:17] <sheer> umount: /media/zvi/EXTERNAL is not mounted (according to mtab)
[10:17] <sheer> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt/test’: Permission denied
[10:17] <sheer> mount: only root can do that
[10:17] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: sudo umount /media/zvi/EXTERNAL; sudo mkdir /mnt/test; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[10:17] <sheer> "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[10:17] <sheer> umount: /media/zvi/EXTERNAL: not found
[10:17] <sheer> "
[10:18] <sivik> did you run the mkdir command?
[10:18] <sivik> Then the mount command?
[10:18] <sivik> sudo mkdir /mnt/test; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test those two
[10:18] <sheer> "zvi@zvi-Z87M-D3H:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/test
[10:18] <sheer> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt/test’: File exists"
[10:19] <sivik> Ok, then run the next command
[10:19] <sivik> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[10:19] <sivik> What does that return?
[10:19] <HeweloDere> sivik: I still can't get it to work?
[10:19] <sheer> zvi@zvi-Z87M-D3H:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[10:19] <sheer> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[10:19] <sheer> The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[10:19] <sheer> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[10:19] <sivik> Close your file manager that you have it open.
[10:20] <sheer> external isn't showing up under devices anymore
[10:20] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: unmount it first before you try to mount it again
[10:20] <sivik> sheer, thats alright.
[10:20] <paradisebunny> is there a good simplenote client on linux other than nvpy? starting to glitch on me
[10:20] <sivik> Sh3r1ff, he already did
[10:20] <sheer> file manager's closed
[10:21] <sivik> sheer, now try the mount command again
[10:21] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: sudo mount : can you sill see /dev/sdb1 listed there?
[10:21] <HeweloDere> sivik: I tried an SSH tunnel and using localhost, but it still refuses my connection?
[10:21] <sivik> Can you ping the ip you are attempting to connect to?
[10:21] <sheer> dev/sda1 yes
[10:21] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: first try to ping the vnc server machine, if that works, check on the vnc server machine with netstat if the re is a process listening on the port
[10:21] <sheer> sdb1 no
[10:21] <k1l_> HeweloDere: still root user?
[10:21] <sivik> sudo umount /dev/sda1
[10:21] <HeweloDere> Yes...
[10:22] <sheer> wait,
[10:22] <sheer> "/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/test type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[10:22] <sheer> "
[10:22] <HeweloDere> But I'm not trying to connect with a user, I'm trying to connect to the IP?
[10:22] <sheer> done si
[10:22] <sheer> sivik
[10:22] <sivik> sheer, now try the mount command
[10:22] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: ls -la /mnt/test
[10:22] <HeweloDere> I get 173ms to the IP.
[10:22] <k1l_> HeweloDere: ok, so why dont you try with a user?
[10:22] <HeweloDere> I don't know how...?
[10:22] <drooooid> sheer, rm -rf /
[10:22] <k1l_> !away | JNixx
[10:23] <Skwallinux> @droooooid +1
[10:23] <sheer> zvi@zvi-Z87M-D3H:~$ rm -rf /
[10:23] <sheer> rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on ‘/’
[10:23] <sheer> rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe
[10:23] <k1l_> sheer: dont run drooooids command
[10:23] <HeweloDere> I tried root@mydomain.com/myip and it does it?
[10:23] <sheer> 2l8
[10:23] <sheer> k1l_: i ran it
[10:23] <sivik> sheer, 218?
[10:23] <sheer> too late* sorry
[10:23] <sivik> sheer, did you really just run rm -rf /
[10:24] <sheer> :|
[10:24] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: no worries, there is a failsafe ;)
[10:24] <sheer> what did i do
[10:24] <k1l_> sheer: dont do it. it will remove all your system (if ubuntu would not have made a safty issue there)
[10:24] <sheer> :|
[10:24] <sheer> wow.
[10:24] <sivik> never run an rm command that someone gave you in irc
[10:24] <Flannel> sheer: slowing down, did you run it a second time with --no-preserve...etc? (don't)
[10:24] <k1l_> sheer: its the "format c" of the linux world
[10:24] <Sh3r1ff> never run a command when you don't know what is going to do!
[10:24] <sheer> what a little asshole that "drooooid" :|
[10:25] <sheer> Sh3r1ff: i think i just learned an important lesson yeah
[10:25] <sheer> Flannel: i haven't done a thing since, no
[10:25] <Flannel> sheer: Then you're good.
[10:25] <k1l_> sheer: but since its made not work on ubuntu, you are still safe
[10:25] <sheer> Flannel: that bastard though
[10:25] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: back to your problem, did you do "ls -la /mnt/test" ?
[10:25] <Flannel> sheer: Some people are idiots.  That's why they're banned right now.
[10:26] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: so you can ping, is there a process listening on the port?
[10:26] <sheer> zvi@zvi-Z87M-D3H:~$ ls -la /mnt/test
[10:26] <sheer> ls: reading directory /mnt/test: Input/output error
[10:26] <sheer> total 0
[10:26] <sheer> that's what I get, sh3
[10:26] <sheer> Sh3r1ff:
[10:26] <sivik> sheer, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[10:26] <sivik> What happens when you run that command?
[10:26] <sheer> umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[10:26] <sivik> sudo umount /mnt/test/
[10:27] <k1l_> i/o errors can mean the hardware is failing
[10:27] <HeweloDere> Sh3r1ff: I don't think so but I didn't try connecting with a port?
[10:27] <sheer> EXTERNAL just popped up, sivik after that command
[10:27] <Sh3r1ff> sivik: not how mount works (you have to specify the mount point with umount) and /dev/sda1 is mounted on /boot/efi ;)
[10:28] <sivik> Sh3r1ff, that works too.  I have done it before.
[10:28] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: if you don't specify a port, the default port for the protocol is used
[10:28] <HeweloDere> And so therefort it should come up with a username and password box?
[10:29] <Sh3r1ff> sivik: dev's are getting sloppy allowing behaviour like that :p
[10:29] <HeweloDere> therefore *
[10:30] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: the connection is refused, so something is blocking the connection, could be software actively blocking it, or could be nothing is listening for the connection
[10:31] <sheer> it popped up
[10:31] <k1l_> HeweloDere: ubuntu is not supposed to run the desktop as root. so i dont get why you insist of using root
[10:31] <sheer> but there's still nothing in it showing
[10:31] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: try netstat -a | grep 590 on the server machine
[10:31] <k1l_> HeweloDere: make a vnc user, run vnc as that user then
[10:31] <HeweloDere> yYou mean 5900?
[10:32] <sivik> that grep works
[10:32] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: no, 590, vnc connection port is 590*
[10:32] <HeweloDere> Oh.
[10:32] <Sh3r1ff> so using grep with only 590 gets them all :)
[10:32] <HeweloDere> tcp6       0      0 [::]:5902               [::]:*                  LISTEN
[10:33] <HeweloDere> tcp6       0      0 [::]:5901               [::]:*                  LISTEN
[10:33] <RahulAN> @125
[10:33] <sivik> telnet localhost 5901
[10:33] <sivik> telnet localhost 5902
[10:33] <sivik> Do either of those work.
[10:34] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: when connecting, try specifying the port (IP:port, eg 192.168.0.1:5901)
[10:34] <HeweloDere> telnet works.
[10:34] <sivik> Ok, try telnet from the machine you are trying to connect from
[10:36] <HeweloDere> Oh, yay!
[10:36] <shaarad> Hi everyone, I am working on a machine learning based authentication project which I want to set-up and test on Ubuntu. It involves recording keystroke timestamps during password input. Can anyone tell me where lies the code related to this so I can study and modify it?
[10:37] <sheer> shaarad: what
[10:37] <sheer> are you asking for a keylogger?
[10:37] <shaarad> No, really!
[10:37] <sheer> no, really.
[10:37] <eeee> hi
[10:37] <sheer> i'm a noob and everything
[10:38] <shaarad> Our project is to test the feasibility of keystroke dynamics.
[10:38] <sheer> shaarad: is this a university thing?
[10:39] <shaarad> Yes, we tried some machine learning algorithms like neural networks etc. and now we want to test it..that's why.
[10:39] <eeee> Since I tried expanding the root file system on my SD card the card is not recognized by Ubuntu anymore. Already restarted the netbook. gparted doesn´t see the card and it does´t show up under fdisk -l anymore. Any help?
[10:39] <feurd`> Hi! In order to make the auto-type feature of keepass work, I have to associate a key to the command '/YourPathToKeePass/KeePass.exe --auto-type'. How can I do that with command line?
[10:39] <sheer> and you need to.... steal passwords.....why? lol
[10:39] <Sh3r1ff> HeweloDere: does "Oh yay!" means it works? :)
[10:39] <HeweloDere> Yea.
[10:39] <PolishPickers> anyone uses ssd hard drives?
[10:40] <sheer> Sh3r1ff: -oh yay!
[10:40] <k1l_> PolishPickers: a lot do. what is the issue?
[10:40] <sheer> that's a negative, not a dash
[10:40] <shaarad> it's not stealing..I basically want to record keystroke timings and locally run an algorithm to check the authenticity of user.
[10:40] <k1l_> shaarad: somewhere in lightdm
[10:40] <k1l_> shaarad: logind is used afaik
[10:40] <shaarad> I know it sounds like keylogger but its not that.
[10:41] <PolishPickers> none so far just one question i got one few days ago should i worry about it? (btw i love it!)
[10:41] <k1l_> PolishPickers: no, no need to worry
[10:41] <PolishPickers> my stepfather asked me if there is a fragmantation and bad sector issues as a regular hard drive
[10:42] <sheer> shaarad: well good luck lol
[10:42] <k1l_> PolishPickers: do you use ubuntu with ext4?
[10:42] <PolishPickers> yes
[10:42] <k1l_> PolishPickers: so you dont have fragmentation issues on ssd or hdd.
[10:43] <PolishPickers> how about bad sectors?
[10:43] <k1l_> PolishPickers: bad sectors can occure due to hardware failure like on hdds too.
[10:43] <k1l_> but in regular use ssds last as long as hdds now: they can break anytime :)
[10:44] <eeee> What could be the reason that I can not delete partitions on my SD card? gparted gives a green check mark as if all actions were successfully completed. After I refresh the dvices no change. :(
[10:44] <shaarad> sheer, thanks if thats not sarcastic
[10:44] <PolishPickers> i got a real good deal i think! on a 240gb ssd hard drive and i just wanted one
[10:44] <sheer> shaarad: it's not, u nless it should be, and i don't know if it should be ;)
[10:44] <k1l_> PolishPickers: dont worry. just use
[10:45] <PolishPickers> thanks kil
[10:45] <shaarad> Okay cool :)
[10:45] <shaarad> thanks k1l_  too :)
[10:45] <Sh3r1ff> sheer: have you tried connecting the external to a different computer?
[10:46] <PolishPickers> i am really in aw! the speed i turn on the system and there it is
[10:46] <sheer> Sh3r1ff: doing that as we speak actually
[10:47] <Sh3r1ff> PolishPickers: never install an ssd at work, now i start my computer and have time to fetch a coffee :p
[10:47] <sivik> Sh3r1ff, have you tried a different usb port?
[10:47] <eXistenZNL> we just have a very fast coffee machine
[10:47] <eXistenZNL> so i can still fetch coffee
[10:47] <Sh3r1ff> :D
[10:48] <sheer> well shit, no, nothing shows up under EXTERNAL on my mac now. this is a new problem. is my drive fucked? data lost?
[10:48] <PolishPickers> lol
[10:49] <PolishPickers> it takes me 4 minutes in my microwave ;)
[10:49] <sheer> Sh3r1ff: ?
[10:50] <sivik> sheer, could be a bad cable
[10:51] <sheer> sivik: it was working today
[10:51] <sheer> until i used it with my newly installed ubuntu
[10:51] <sheer> i very much doubt its the cable
[10:51] <sivik> Just try that
[10:51] <sheer> i have no other cable
[10:52] <sivik> Since its ntfs, it could be something about the stuck file system.
[10:52] <sivik> run a fsck on it from command line when you plug it in
[10:53] <actionparsnip> sheer: if it's NTFS then run a chkdsk in Windows
[10:53] <sheer> WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[10:53] <sheer> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
[10:54] <actionparsnip> sheer: also if the storage is USB based then be sure to use the safe remove feature in your OS before you physically unplug the device
[10:54] <sivik> actionparsnip, it is a usb drive
[10:54] <sheer> yeah
[10:54] <sheer> it is
[10:54] <k1l_> sheer: you still need to think before giving commands a go. he said on windows. not that you need to run fsck on the mounted device
[10:54] <sheer> i just want to recover my files
[10:54] <Sh3r1ff> PolishPickers: that can't be good coffee :p
[10:54] <sheer> and i'm happy to toss the drive in the bin
[10:54] <sivik> Boot into windows, plug in it, check the disk there
[10:55] <sheer> i don't have a windows parition anymore :|
[10:55] <sheer> but i do have a mac?
[10:55] <PolishPickers> try polish coffee it is good shit
[10:55] <sivik> I know zero about macs
[10:55] <actionparsnip> sheer: do you use safe removal?
[10:55] <PolishPickers> night all thanks
[10:56] <actionparsnip> sheer: why not restore from your backups? Quicker and easier
[10:56] <sivik> actionparsnip, I bet he doesn't have backups
[10:56] <actionparsnip> sheer: you do have backups right?
[10:56] <sheer> actionparsnip i was working on that
[10:57] <actionparsnip> sheer: so, if the drive  IDE or motor fails, where is your data?
[10:57] <sheer> in the bin I guess.
[10:57] <sheer> i'm trying to turn things around
[10:57] <actionparsnip> sheer: or is the data disposable and unimportant?
[10:58] <sheer> things as they were, were not good
[10:58] <sheer> most of it is. i'm not sure what i had on there
[10:58] <sheer> the large bulk of the data were disposable movies
[10:58] <sivik> I bet you can recover it
[10:58] <sivik> Don't throw it away
[10:58] <actionparsnip> sheer: can you see why a backup is good now?
[10:59] <sivik> sheer, you need to plug it in, unmount it, then run the file system check on it
[10:59] <sheer> actionparsnip i've always known, man
[10:59] <actionparsnip> sheer: a 1Tb drive costs very little and allows you to easily recover data
[10:59] <ganimede> hello folks. I have just got a strikeTE keyboard, but it needs configuration under ubuntu (14.04lte), otherwise it freezes my mouse (ratTE, that I have already configured so that ubuntu ignores the extra buttons). Any idea what to set in the .conf file please? thank you
[10:59] <actionparsnip> sheer: so if you know..why is there no second copy..?
[11:00] <sheer> actionparsnip things were not good as they were
[11:00] <sheer> and i am trying to turn things around
[11:00] <sheer> yesterday i burnt a word document to a dvd
[11:00] <sheer> that is where i'm at -_-
[11:00] <sivik> dvd, people still use those?  I would have just uploaded to dropbox or google drive
[11:01] <sheer> yeah, i'm stuck between wanting privacy and convenience
[11:01] <actionparsnip> sheer: but you had no backup  so they weren't. Relying on a single storage is far from wise, especially if it warrants effort to restore the data. It's mindless
[11:01] <shaarad> sheer, I have another question if you don't mind.
[11:01] <sheer> go on
[11:01] <sheer> not my channel shaarad
[11:02] <actionparsnip> sheer: try it in the  mac. You may need a  windows  PC as NTFS is proprietary to  Microsoft
[11:02] <sheer> it's NTFS
[11:02] <sheer> and nothing showed up on the mac
[11:02] <sheer> as with here
[11:02] <sivik> i bet its just some sort of ntfs lock or some mess
[11:02] <shaarad> Okay, for everyone then. I browsed the lightdm code, but it has a lot of GUI code like vala files and all. Can you point me to the terminal login?
[11:03] <actionparsnip> sheer: do you use safe removal before unplugging the storage when you are finished with it or do you just yank it out?
[11:04] <sivik> I bet he yanked it
[11:04] <actionparsnip> shaarad: press CTRL + ALT +  F1
[11:04] <k1l_> shaarad: as i said, logind is used for the login. lightdm triggers just the login since its the log in screen
[11:04] <sheer> i safe removed
[11:04] <sheer> and this happened possibly in an accidental non  safe removal
[11:04] <sheer> i don't yank it.
[11:04] <sivik> You need to boot into windows and try to mount and unmount again
[11:04] <shaarad> actionparsnip, I know, I wanted to see the code that does it..
[11:04] <actionparsnip> sheer: then I'd find a buddy with  Windows and  run a chkdsk
[11:04] <actionparsnip> shaarad: that does what?
[11:05] <shaarad> okay k1l_ maybe logind is my thing then..I will check that out
[11:06] <shaarad> actionparsnip, I want to modify it to run some authentication algorithm in addition to normal login
[11:06] <actionparsnip> sheer: foremost my be able to recover files but I'm unsure if it can access  NTFS. If it can, you will need a  writable partition of equal or greater volume than the drive
[11:07] <actionparsnip> sheer: if you use foremost the result files will lost folder and filename data but files may be recovered
[11:07] <actionparsnip> sheer: the Windows PC method may remove the need for all that though
[11:08] <sheer> actionparsnip so I should run chkdsk on a PC
[11:09] <sheer> what happens after i run that?
[11:09] <actionparsnip> sheer: yes. Chkdsk is a windows command, in Windows
[11:10] <actionparsnip> sheer: it will verify the data and straighten it out if needed. You can then safe remove the drive and it will work as expected
[11:11] <sheer> oh i hope so!
[11:12] <sheer> actionparsnip is it possible to allow for a windows partition after an ubuntu has been installed already?
[11:12] <actionparsnip> sheer: I suggest you look into a backup regime
[11:12] <actionparsnip> sheer: if you mean to dual boot then yes
[11:12] <sheer> i will do that, actionparsnip
[11:13] <sheer> i was thinking to avoid windows completely because i figured WINE would take care of any windows needs
[11:13] <sivik> I don't think you are ready to go fully away from windows sheer
[11:13] <actionparsnip> sheer: you will need to use Ubuntu lived or similar to resize the Ext4 partition to make space for the Windows installer to use
[11:14] <actionparsnip> sheer: you will also need to reinstate Grub to the MAR as the Windows installer will blindly overwrite what is there with its own junk
[11:25] <abdel> hello, please I can't copy into my external drive, please help....the paste option greys out
[11:25] <sivik> its probably ntfs
[11:25] <sivik> You have to mount it a specific way for it to be able to written to
[11:26] <abdel> please tell me how to do it sivik
[11:26] <sheer> actionparsnip "(22:14:48) actionparsnip: sheer: you will also need to reinstate Grub to the MAR as the Windows installer will blindly overwrite what is there with its own junk" is there a guide on doing this entire process?
[11:27] <sivik> abdel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:27] <actionparsnip> sheer: many online and even YouTube videos
[11:30] <abdel> thanks sivik
[11:31] <sivik> google is your friend btw.  That is how I found that.  Just typed write to ntfs ubuntu.
[11:37] <Killall> Ineed help using wpa supplicoant with 80
[11:37] <Killall> Ineed help using wpa supplicoant with IEEE 802.1x
[11:38] <Killall> i have setted up my wpa supplicant and still not able to connect "no suitable network as been found" skip RSN IE - key mgmt mismatch
[11:41] <vidarne> with taskset you can set a specific running program to a  core as root/superuser but is there a way for a regular user to set  what core a program shall use ?  i have 3 game servers runing and i dont want them to use core/treds 1-3.
[11:43] <cfhowlett> !server | vidarne
[11:44] <actionparsnip> sheer: sorry I meant MBR.
[11:44] <sheer> MBR?
[11:44] <actionparsnip> sheer: master boot record. I put MAR before
[11:45] <sheer> oh, neither mean anything to me at this point, but i appreciate your help.
[11:46] <sheer> i am too disorganised in my head to be proactive with the info you gave me
[12:02] <abdel> sivik, mine here is mac, the external drive works with mac pcs, but not in ubuntu
[12:03] <abdel> I cant copy to the external drive in ubuntu but i can do that with mac
[12:13] <lucian> yo!
[12:13] <saj> hey lucian!
[12:14] <saj> I am a new bee to IRC chats! Am I visible to anyone?
[12:15] <dmb> Yes, you are visible ;)
[12:15] <reza-as> Yes saj!
[12:15] <saj> Thank god!!
[12:15] <Prezident> yes saj!
[12:15] <Prezident> Wich client are you using?
[12:15] <saj> xchat!
[12:16] <saj> is it a good one?
[12:16] <Prezident> I hate xchat! :/
[12:16] <enchilado> I hate everything that isn't Microsoft Comic Chat
[12:16] <Prezident> https://weechat.org/about/screenshots/ saj i recomend for you!
[12:16] <Prezident> Enjoy :>
[12:17] <Prezident> Very easy and good.
[12:17] <saj> ok! thanks i will try it now.
[12:17] <enchilado> saj: irssi is good too
[12:17] <Prezident> Wat distro are you using saj?
[12:22] <enchilado> Oh, he left. I was going to show him my irssi setup :'(
[12:23] <Prezident> Show me your irssi setup :)
[12:24] <enchilado> Prezident: http://i.imgur.com/hTemIem.png
[12:24] <enchilado> Although that doesn't show off all the neat scripts I have installed :(
[12:24] <Zergling316> hi
[12:24] <Prezident> Wow that rocked man, but it sucks that you dont have chan buffers
[12:24] <Prezident> If you on many chans.
[12:24] <kaio> hi, how do I remove shortcuts on my panel ? gnome
[12:25] <abdel> hello, please I can't copy into my external drive, please help....the paste option greys out....but it works on my mac
[12:25] <Zergling316> when i want to install amd proprietary drivers (fglrx) wine 1.7 will be removed?
[12:25] <enchilado> Prezident: what do you mean?
[12:25] <Zergling316> kaio
[12:25] <Zergling316> right click and unlock from launcher
[12:28] <kaio> Zergling316, In panel properties, I only have : expand, autohide, show buttons
[12:28] <Monika> I have Kubuntu 14.10 as the host OS and Ubuntu Server 10.04 as the guest OS in VMware player, with VMware tools installed on the guest. Should copy and paste between the two be working? It doesn't. Googling results in suggestions to set some flag about allowing copy and paste in some settings, but I have checked all the settings and there is no such flag anywhere.
[12:33] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all and a Happy New Year!
[12:34] <frocee> happy new year!
[12:34] <kaio> ok I solved this by press ALT key ^
[12:34] <bazhang> https://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-4-esx-vcenter/index.jsp?topic=/com.vmware.vsphere.server_configclassic.doc_41/esx_server_config/security_deployments_and_recommendations/t_enable_copy_and_paste_operations_between_the_guest_operating_system_and_remote_console.html Monika
[12:34] <kaio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91445/how-do-i-remove-an-icon-from-the-top-panel-in-gnome-fallback-mode
[12:35] <strangerhellion> happy new year :)
[12:35] <Prezident> enchilado: yeah so you can see your channels you are in.
[12:35] <Prezident> Like a buffer list/chan list.
[12:35] <enchilado> Oh
[12:35] <enchilado> I don't see the point
[12:36] <Monika> bazhang thanks, but I'm using VMware Player, that's for the VMware Server
[12:36] <bazhang> Monika, try #vmware
[12:37] <enchilado> Prezident: I have this if I don't remember the number of a channel http://i.imgur.com/6i758dF.png
[12:37] <enchilado> Matches anywhere in the channel name, number or network and you can tab to cycle
[12:41] <Zergling316> can i install amd omega drivers (14.12) without removing ocl-icd-libopencl1 and thus wine?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Zergling316  better ask in ##winehq
[12:45] <cfhowlett> Zergling316, why would you even ask that here in irc?  test it on your box!  apt-get purge -s allthejunkyoumentioned.      the -s   will TEST the command, not execute.
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> Zergling316  in other words: best way would be by trying
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> best way to find out*
[12:59] <Zergling316> thanks :)
[13:02] <kangolz> hi
[13:03] <kangolz> hi
[13:04] <renangribeiro> hi
[13:05] <kaio> hi
[13:05] <kaio> why is my evolution calendar in German ?
[13:14] <lolzors> hy
[13:14] <lolzors> hy
[13:15] <Monika> kaio we Germans are secretly trying to take over the world this way.
[13:16] <cfhowlett> kaio, given the date ... to much holiday cheer?
[13:16] <Francis_Leach> Hi all...
[13:18] <kaio> cfhowlett, mittwoch 31 dezember 2014
[13:18] <Francis_Leach> Had an issue earlier where my screen went blank...nothing would restore. Closed lid on laptop, opened it and the screen came back on chromium, but with no menu bar and no access to terminal, etc....went into vt terminal and rebooted, was my only option.
[13:18] <Francis_Leach> Can anyone help me find the problem?
[13:19] <Francis_Leach> I changed my ram, upgraded it from 2gb to 4gb yesterday, then did full fresh reinstall. I remember an issue with chromium doing this with youtube before, but not on regular pages. Any help gratefully recieved
[13:20] <calvinz> yaz
[13:21] <robynata> :-D
[13:24] <casx> hi
[13:30] <mal_> hi
[13:31] <apter> Hello. I am running Ubuntu on my Macbook Pro (14) Retina and only have 2 hours battery time in this but have 6-7 hours in OS X anything I can do to make it a bit better?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> apter, turn off most/all desktop display pretty effects for startrs
[13:32] <cfhowlett> *starters*
[13:33] <apter> cfhowlett: Like switching to gnome?
[13:34] <calbov> calbn
[13:34] <cfhowlett> apter, all DE's have eyecandy.  turn that down/off for energy savings.  not sure if gnome is any less demanding
[13:36] <calbov> lol
[13:39] <smeal> yiff
[13:47] <yawd> lawd
[13:51] <MrSavage> what's the command to open the network manager gui?
[13:51] <EriC^^> nm-connection-editor ?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> or nm-applet
[13:59] <rfxchlx> while receving some files I can see with wireshark a lot of duplicate ACK (about 516 for the sequence number), does anybody know how to fix that or where to look at?
[14:00] <tunafish> on xubuntu, would sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop do all the magic for me to switch to unity in a safe way?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> tunafish: if your hardware can handle it yes
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> tunafish: of course if you like it and runs smooth, its better to install ubuntu desktop fresh
[14:03] <shaarad> Hi all, I have downloaded the source of login-utils by sudo apt-get source linux-utils. However, modifying anything in login.c and performing make install doesn't seem to reflect any changes. any ideas why?
[14:03] <tunafish> lotuspsychje, thanks. intel t5300 with 3gb ram, I think it can?, but I have a few customizations, like cron scripts and so. It would be quite time consuming. is it really better to install it fresh?
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> tunafish: that should do it
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> tunafish: i would go for ubuntu 14.04 fresh yes, cable on and updates on
[14:05] <timedifference13> tunafish: I think it is indeed the best to go for a fresh install.
[14:05] <tunafish> lotuspsychje: Let's see how it will work than, I'll instal unity and report back.
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> tunafish: unity is pretty intuitive once you get used to it
[14:05] <shaarad> BluesKaj_, can you help?
[14:06] <tunafish> lotuspsychje: I think so, that's why I want to try it, also for title bar integration too.
[14:07] <tunafish> Though it is quite disgusting that I have to turn the spyware off.
[14:07] <tunafish> I know it is not opt-in but..
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> spyware?
[14:07] <tunafish> lotuspsychje: The amazon spyware
[14:07] <bekks> Thats no spyware at all.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> tunafish: thats not really spyware, the user gets the choice to enable/disable
[14:08] <tunafish> I don't think so,bekks: It captures my text input in search, sends it to amazon, and it doesn't tell me/ask me about what it is doing. There should be a switch on os install, like windows does.
[14:08] <tunafish> s/amazon/canocial
[14:09] <k1l_> tunafish: then every browser or android is spyware. you are told its an online search and you can set it off in privacy settings. so do that if you dont like it
[14:09] <bekks> tunafish: You have the choice to enable or disable it. So thats no spyware by definition of spyware.
[14:09] <ServerSage_Work> That's a pretty loose definition of spyware.  Sounds like 90% of apps out there.
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> tunafish  opinions and discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[14:10] <tunafish> MonkeyDust: Just a sec. k1l_>you are told | where?
[14:11] <BluesKaj_> shaarad, not familiar with login-utils , in't just a meta-package
[14:11] <kawax> yo
[14:11] <shaarad> meta-package means?
[14:12] <k1l_> tunafish: easiest way: press super, read what written in the search bar.
[14:12] <tunafish> k1l_:Thanks, didn't know there is info about it on search.
[14:12] <BluesKaj_> shaarad, i guess it isn't
[14:13] <kasad> guys, please tell me that there is solution to bug where wifi stops working after suspend
[14:13] <tunafish> shaarad: package that installs other packages, meta package itself doesn't do something.
[14:13] <shaarad> Oh!
[14:13] <kasad> (with qualcomm wifi cards and just a few others - it's a asus laptop)
[14:13] <kasad> because I am about to start crying, seriosly
[14:14] <kasad> after polishing everything, delivering, giving lessons to friends mother, coming back on foot at like -15 last evening, I get a call that wifi is not working, then I find out about the bug
[14:14] <blasko> hi
[14:14] <kasad> hi pls kill me
[14:15]  * tunafish kills kasad
[14:15] <blasko> why
[14:15] <kasad> because I am so frustrated that I'm gonna cry
[14:15] <tunafish> kasad get a new wifi card? ^_^
[14:15] <kasad> promised to friend that Im gonna fix him ubuntu laptop for his mom (and for him when he's there)
[14:16] <amph> always look on the bright side of life
[14:16] <kasad> finished everything, virtualized his old machine, delivered laptop to his mom last nite, gave her hours of explanations how to use it
[14:16] <bekks> kasad: ...and didnt test wifi before? :)
[14:16] <kasad> and this morning she calls me and tells me that wifi isn't working, then I find out about this bug
[14:17] <kasad> bekks: it works, it goes fubar only if you use suspend
[14:17] <kasad> and after that wifi is dead
[14:17] <blazkoy> win
[14:17] <BluesKaj_> so you have ubuntu on a VM , that can be troublesome with wifi
[14:17] <kasad> I never suspended machine obviosly, I tested wifi
[14:17] <kasad> no on vm is his old windows
[14:18] <kasad> ubuntu is on host
[14:18] <kasad> asus laptop
[14:18] <BluesKaj_> kasad, which wifi chip?
[14:18] <kasad> qualcomm
[14:18] <kasad> there are two solutions recommended
[14:18] <kasad> neither works
[14:18] <kasad> lemme link you the bug, sec
[14:18] <bekks> kasad: So the bug appears when you wake up after suspending?
[14:19] <BluesKaj_> old laptop?
[14:19] <kasad> yes
[14:19] <kasad> and yes, core 2 duo (asus f5rl)
[14:19] <bekks> kasad: So the fix is to not suspend :)
[14:19] <kasad> yeah, but I can't get it to work now
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> that's more a workarond than a solution
[14:20] <kasad> yeah, it's not real solution, it's kinda dirty
[14:20] <kasad> and it doesn't work in my case
[14:20] <dfsgsdfg> cv
[14:21] <bekks> kasad: It is your only choice. And not using suspend works perfectly.
[14:21] <kasad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1286552 <--- this is the bug if anyone else cares
[14:21] <kasad> so I am about to kill myself, or more likely fiancee is gonna kill me because I need to fix this
[14:22] <kasad> bekks: yes, I am ready to disable suspend, and tell friends mom to never use it, but I can;t get wifi to work at all now
[14:23] <kasad> (on her network, which I also tested, and it's working fine)
[14:23] <chansol> Happy new year! :-)
[14:23] <madani> Happy New Year
[14:24] <kasad> on mine, it connected straight away
[14:25] <kasad> maybe it needs to be shutdown for a while, I remember reading somewhere that ppl could only get it working after a long shutdown (go figure)
[14:27] <kasad> i am like real life Mr. Bean
[14:27] <kasad> situations like this happen to me all the time
[14:27] <tunafish> installed unity, yep, I am keeping it. I liked it.
[14:27] <BluesKaj_> kasad, on 14.10?
[14:28] <kasad> BluesKaj_: xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[14:29] <kasad> but bug applies to ubuntu past 13.10
[14:29] <kasad> as well
[14:29] <BluesKaj_> kasad, does network manager see the local wifi networks ?
[14:30] <kasad> yes
[14:30] <Zergling316> hello, is it possible to change the fanspeed of an amd graphics card in ubuntu 14.10?
[14:30] <kasad> but you can't connect, it says connecting, even asks for wifi pass and then nothing happens
[14:32] <BluesKaj_> kasad, ok , try this, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up, then run sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid, your network manager should open and ask for the wpapsk password
[14:32] <kasad> ok, seems it starts working again after long shutdown (i brought laptop to my place again)
[14:32] <kasad> BluesKaj_: ok one sec
[14:33] <kasad> yeap
[14:34] <Romsl> Hello everybody. I've a question about UEFI: I installed Ubuntu on my system in UEFI-mode and now I have to boot options for Ubuntu. shim64.efi and grub64.efi. And both works! Why do I have two options and why do both work?
[14:34] <kasad> BluesKaj_: tried disabling it and pops up (I already disabled suspend) I am just afraid that issue will pop up again when I give her laptop back, she is supposed to skype with daughter tonight
[14:34] <kasad> (and ofc I couldn't get webcam working)
[14:36] <kasad> BluesKaj_: thanks for the tip
[14:36] <guzzinho> #saab
[14:36] <kasad> I am just worried that it will happen again when I give her laptop back (so I disabled suspend)
[14:37] <kasad> now trying to replicate bug
[14:37] <kasad> just to make sure
[14:38] <kasad> and looking into webcam, but don't know where to start really
[14:39] <BluesKaj_> kasad, I find suspend doesn't successfully reload all the drivers for audio and video software even on 14.10...I haven't investigated the bugs because just shutting doen is practically just as easy as suspend anyway
[14:40] <kasad> BluesKaj_: agreed, I personally never turn off my machine, except when there is power outage (in which case I usually have to hibernate or risk losing work)
[14:41] <kasad> found another bug, closing lid = no more gui, xfce dies
[14:41] <bekks> kasad: So dont use suspend :)
[14:42] <kasad> I disabled it already
[14:42] <kasad> forgot what was close lid set to, think hibernate, it's all going to be shutdown, wonder if it could be logout and shutdown
[14:42] <kasad> because I have save session ticked at logout
[14:43] <kasad> so it would be nice to at least give them some ability to preserve open pages / w/e
[14:44] <kasad> I figured great way to host domain on dynamic ip for free
[14:44] <nedbat> if I set a limit with setrlimit (actually, through Python, but not sure it matters), and the limit is exceeded, what happens to the process? It is killed? Is this logged somewhere?
[14:44] <kasad> I feel like sharing so if anyone cares: here's the trick,
[14:44] <BluesKaj_> kasad, google talk/hangouts is much easier to use then skype and works fine thru a browser
[14:45] <BluesKaj_> than skype
[14:45] <kasad> BluesKaj_: agreed, but tell that to 60+ old women
[14:45] <BluesKaj_> kasad, heh, I'm 71
[14:45] <kasad> but you are on IRC
[14:46] <kasad> so you don't count :P and I doubt that you are a women, not that i am sexist
[14:47] <BluesKaj_> well, my job background was quite techy so i came using pcs naturally on the job , then at home
[14:47] <kasad> she doesn't speak english, her son insisted that I don't install her (x)ubuntu in native language because he wants her to learn english
[14:48] <BluesKaj_> oh my, that will be very frustrating for her ... not a good idea IMO
[14:48] <kasad> BluesKaj_: figured it was something like that, probably you were working on some IBM mainframe, while I typed my first BASIC lines @ ZX Spectrum 48K (1982/3) (I am 39)
[14:49] <Rory> I'm reasonably sure my installation is haunted. When I run "sudo -i", I get the message "The program 'st' is currently not installed." as if it's trying to execute "st", but there's no mention of this in root's .bashrc etc
[14:49] <kasad> BluesKaj_: again agreed, so I was kind and set her browser/skype, basically everything she uses in her native language
[14:49] <Rory> to be clear, sudo -i works as expected, it's just like it's trying to execute this program
[14:50] <kasad> welcome to my world Rory (where's Amy btw :P)
[14:51] <BluesKaj_> kasad, nope, I was just a pc user in an analytical lab, hwere we used application programs to run instruments that did chemical analysis
[14:51] <kasad> BluesKaj_: what year/time period are we talking about (you said PC)
[14:52] <BluesKaj_> late 80s and then 90s
[14:52] <BluesKaj_> 5retired in '99
[14:52] <BluesKaj_> err retired
[14:53] <kasad> nice, got my amiga 500 in late 80s
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> zx spectrum! we had that, back in 1982!!
[14:54] <kasad> A then 1200 at the end of '92 those were the days
[14:54] <BluesKaj_> before that we used integrators which were softweare driven , but clunky with some memory but not much
[14:54] <kasad> I even had 9 pin color printer! :D
[14:55] <BluesKaj_> spectra physics
[14:57] <kasad> how far it all went... but when you think of it
[14:59] <kasad> my AGA in 1995 looked like more or less like this>  http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/172/7/7/my_crystal_theme_for_amigaos_4_1_snapshot_2_of_6_by_djnick2k-d6a1pmb.jpg
[15:02] <kasad> ofc this is modern amigaOS, it used to be workbench, but with expansion card (blizzard) and proper customization, you could get really nice OS, sure PC would, dunno, draw a fractal faster, but Amiga architecture with specialized chips for different things was running soooo smooth
[15:02] <Rory> kasad: In fiction
[15:02]  * MonkeyDust smokes pipe, rocks chair, hums and watches the ceiling
[15:03] <kasad> ok 3d sucked won't dispute that
[15:04] <phunyguy> Hey guys, so, just a request.... can we keep offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic?  I know it is a holiday, etc, but this channel needs to stay clear for support.   Thank you.
[15:05] <kasad> agreed
[15:07] <kasad> any idea how to get webcam working on 14.4 LTS on asus F5LR series laptop
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> kasad  did you test it with cheese?
[15:08] <kasad> I mean, where do I start from
[15:09] <kasad> MonkeyDust: doing now
[15:11] <ganiman> Hello, when I try to install any package on a certain server, it tells me to run "apt-get -f install" first.  When I try to do that, I get the message "debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable".  Can someone please help me correct this?  I've tried googling..
[15:11] <kasad> MonkeyDust: Thanks (still installing)
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  try this line in a terminal    sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[15:13] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: that does not return anything, just "blank"
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  can you sudo apt-get update?
[15:14] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: yes, that does work
[15:14] <zenlambda> can lightdm be used without accountservice?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  ok, now try the line you had issues with
[15:14] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: even after and apt-get update, trying to install (or remove for that matter) any package fails
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[15:15] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> ok
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  are you using any ppa's?
[15:18] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: well, I was trying to add logstash as one,  but prior to that it looks like the previous admin had a webmin repo too
[15:18] <fusionsparc> Hey guys,When adding a new repository, are there any security risks involved?  New to linux.. :)
[15:18] <cfhowlett> !webmin
[15:19] <mcphail> fusionsparc: of course. Do you trust the source?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  what ubottu says and i am not familiar with logstash
[15:20] <Novice201y> Hi. Since Firestarter doesn't exist in 14.10 repos, what firewall GUI is an alternarive?
[15:20] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, gufw
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y  fwcuilder
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> Novice201y  fwbuilder
[15:20] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: I tried to remove the repo, apt-get update, and apt-get -f install again, but still fails :(
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  moment...
[15:21] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: and logstash is pretty awesome if you manage lots of log files, worth checking out - maintained by Elasticsearch folks now
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  paste this custom bash script as a text file, make executable and run http://paste.ubuntu.com/9650880/  <-- picked up in this channel
[15:23] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: thanks, just a moment
[15:27] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: read your script to make sure it was ok, looked good so I ran it.  It ended with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9650902/
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  i see apache, php and mysql, that's above my head ... is that a server?
[15:29] <Novice201y> cfhowlett: Thanks
[15:29] <kasad> MonkeyDust: it started working in Cheese right away, but still nothing in skype. Any clues?
[15:29] <Novice201y> cfhowlett: Thanks.
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, happy2help!
[15:30] <Novice201y> Is firewall enabled by default in Ubuntu>
[15:30] <Novice201y> ?
[15:30] <kasad> re
[15:30] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: yes, I mentioned that it was a server.  But those aren't the problems, it's that apt thinks something is locked when it isnt
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, no it is not
[15:33] <mekhami> how do i completely uninstall wine?
[15:33] <mekhami> apt-get remove wine --purge doesn't do anything
[15:33] <Novice201y> mekhami: Uninstalling can be dangerous.
[15:33] <cfhowlett> mekhami,  dpkg -l | grep wine
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> ganiman  repeat your initial question, i'm out of ideas, maybe someone else can help
[15:34] <ganiman> MonkeyDust: thanks, I appreciate your time :)
[15:35] <mekhami> cfhowlett, thanks
[15:35] <mcphail> mekhami: I think wine is just a metapackage which pulls in the current stable version from a selection in the repos. You might need to uninstall whatever version has been pulled in.
[15:37] <mekhami> alright, now that i've uninstalled everything, i hope i can get a working installation going this time -.-
[15:38] <mcphail> mekhami: remember to delete your local wine directory if you are trying to start fresh
[15:39] <kasad> !skype
[15:40] <kasad> !skype-webcam
[15:40] <kasad> :P
[15:40] <Guest252> hi all
[15:40] <Guest252> I am going nuts
[15:40] <kasad> hi welcome to the club
[15:41] <Guest252> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and the fan is running all the time now
[15:41] <Guest252> it does not in win7
[15:41] <kasad> tell us what obscure problem is troubling you, mayb ewe can compete
[15:41] <Guest252> win7...it runs only when im playing games
[15:41] <ganiman> Guest252: sounds like you need a driver / kernel module to support that
[15:42] <Guest252> ok...well I have sensors
[15:42] <kasad> dell laptop?
[15:42] <Guest252> but I dont know how to get the pwm module working
[15:42] <ganiman> Guest252: right, ubuntu probably doesnt know they are there (yet) so it is not controlling your fan for you
[15:42] <Guest252> supposed it has fancontrol
[15:42] <Guest252> toshiba satellite
[15:43] <Guest252> so who is controlling the fan?
[15:43] <ganiman> Guest252: have you checked their site for support drivers?  maybe they have a deb package for it?
[15:43] <Guest252> ill look into that
[15:43] <Guest252> i mean...is it bad for my laptop if fan runs all the time?
[15:43] <ganiman> Guest252: or maybe it's already in the linux kernel, just not enabled for you
[15:43] <kasad> tried sensors-detect? and nothing right?
[15:46] <Guest252> sensors-detect tells me I have amd 10h thermal sensors and autoloaded k10temp module
[15:47] <Guest252> but lsmod | grep k10temp shows it is used by 0, ie not loaded???
[15:53] <dav1dp0101> Hey, does anyone know how to remove the X windowing system and any display manager and graphics manager I may have installed? I think I installed a few different types but I don't remember what.
[15:53] <dav1dp0101> Does anyone know how to remove the x window server, and any display managers and graphics managers I may have installed?
[15:55] <nedbat> if I set a limit with setrlimit (actually, through Python, but not sure it matters), and the limit is exceeded, what happens to the process? It is killed? Is this logged somewhere? Where would I find information about this?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> kasad  still strugling with wifi after suspend? this TLP page mentions wifi power saving, is it useful http://www.maketecheasier.com/improve-power-usage-in-linux-with-tlp/
[15:56] <cpt_yossarian> nedbat: it depends upon the limit being set. look at the setrlimit man page
[15:57] <kasad> MonkeyDust: I disabled suspend everywhere, but thanks (struggling with skype, webca works in cheese but not in skype (latest downloaded ffrom site, not one from sources)
[15:57] <cpt_yossarian> nedbat: limits are logged in /proc/[pid]/limits on a per-process basis
[15:58] <cfhowlett> kasad that should be skype for linux 4.3   right?
[15:58] <nedbat> cpt_yossarian: and if the process is killed? Is there a central log that would indicate that?
[15:58] <kasad> cfhowlett: yes 4.3.0.37
[15:59] <cfhowlett> :)
[15:59] <kasad> cfhowlett: should I downgrade? why you smiling :D
[15:59] <cfhowlett> kasad, do NOT downgrade!  4.2 is no disabled and doesn't work!
[16:00] <cpt_yossarian> nedbat: the kill messages *might* be under /var/log/kern.log. i haven't checked that, though
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[16:00] <nedbat> cpt_yossarian: i didn't see them there.
[16:00] <kasad> cfhowlett: I know, but there is another 4.3 in sources just older then thi sone
[16:00] <mob4> I'm using a coolermaster storm devastator keyboard but cannot get back-lighting to work. I have looked through the keyboard settings menu unable to find a solution. What avenue of inquiry should I try to resolve this.
[16:01] <cpt_yossarian> nedbat: that's strange. maybe python absorbs them.
[16:01] <cfhowlett> kasad, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9651079/
[16:01] <kasad> MonkeyDust: this is actually pretty useful, if it wasn't new years eve I'd try it out, this way I just want to deliver laptop back asap
[16:02] <nedbat> cpt_yossarian: you would expect the kernel to log a message when it sends the signal?
[16:03] <EriC^^> nedbat: i think it's depends on the module
[16:03] <nedbat> EriC^^: I'm not sure what you mean by module here.
[16:03] <cpt_yossarian> nedbat: that would be my expectation, seeing how it's a syscall and most fatal signals emanating from the kernel are logged
[16:05] <kasad> cfhowlett: on xubuntu atm, needed something lighter (friend, his mom, long sad story about me fixing everything delivering laptop at -15 C last night, this morning she calls me and tells me wifi doesn't work turns out there is a bug with suspend and wifi >_>    -----> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1286552
[16:05] <cfhowlett> kasad, lemme guess: you're the family/community IT support?
[16:06] <EriC^^> nedbat: sorry didn't read what you were saying earlier
[16:06] <cfhowlett> Happy *Year of the Ram* from Beijing!
[16:07] <nedbat> EriC^^: i'm trying to figure out what limit is being exceeded in a setrlimit process being killed. I'm looking for log messages but can't find them.
[16:09] <derpherder> cfhowlett, I thought this was year of the sheep
[16:09] <cfhowlett> derpherder, ram <=> sheep
[16:15] <nithin> Is there any anonymous browser for linux
[16:16] <nithin> I was trying to install and configure Freepbx on ubuntu server
[16:16] <nithin> but I am not able to access the freepbx website.
[16:16] <nithin> It is blocked here...
[16:16] <derpherder> nithin, use a vpn?
[16:16] <cfhowlett> nithin, vpn
[16:16] <derpherder> plenty of free ones out there
[16:17] <timedifference13>  nithin: Tor is available for Linux, or use a Virual Private Network.
[16:17] <nithin> I have tried vpn but I am not able to connect my vpn on ubuntu
[16:17] <nithin> I can connect it on my windows.. but cant do the same in ubuntu
[16:17] <timedifference13> Virtual*
[16:17] <nithin> Tor is also not working
[16:18] <cfhowlett> nithin, what country??
[16:18] <nithin> United Arab Emirates
[16:18] <derpherder> sounds like your ubuntu system isnt configured correctly. If it works on win, it should work on *buntu
[16:18] <nithin> the freepbx website is blocked here.
[16:18] <Novice201y> nithin: Beutiful country
[16:18] <derpherder> can u use proxy sites? like hidemyass or something?
[16:18] <nithin> he..he... yeah it is beautiful
[16:18] <nithin> no
[16:18] <nithin> they are also blocked here/
[16:19] <cfhowlett> nithin, as derpherder suggested: set up your vpn on ubuntu or use the windows vpn
[16:20] <reza-as> nithin: use vpngate project and connect to its free open vpn server i am in Iran and i have same problem
[16:20] <nithin> Do we need to do any additional settings in vpn when we configure it on ubuntu
[16:20] <nithin> Thanks reza-as... I will try that
[16:21] <nithin> reza-as : I will try the vpngate now.
[16:22] <reza-as> nithin: if its site block you can use mirors ,they send miror list every day with email
[16:23] <nithin> damn.... blocked... anyway.. I will try the website on windows... Beautiful country...
[16:23] <nithin> reza-as: so how do I contact them to get the mirror site....
[16:25] <reza-as> nithin try this http://155.223.63.222:54443/en/ and http://i118-17-189-119.s41.a018.ap.plala.or.jp:34985/en/ and http://softbank126026215124.bbtec.net:38873/en/ mirors
[16:25] <alocer> http://dpaste.com/2YEF5MV ... any1 knows the problem ? how to resolve ? what shoud i search for ?
[16:27] <EriC^^> alocer: do you need the file? try unlink learn
[16:27] <alocer> EriC^^: no don't need it ... it's not linked ... o.O
[16:27] <chocolate> [16:28] <EriC^^> alocer: unlink removes files as well
[16:28] <erikrocha> Hi, community
[16:28] <alocer> EriC^^: Thanx. will look into it.
[16:29] <tigerden> hi all...I have already installed ubuntu 14.04 and I want to do a fresh install. If I live boot, I see an option 'Install on existing Ubuntu 14.04' If I do that..will it have the same effect as a fresh install?
[16:29] <alocer> EriC^^: same erorr .
[16:30] <tigerden> I don't want any of my previous data and system files...in short as if I am installing Ubuntu for the first time
[16:30] <alocer> for the ones joined recently 'http://dpaste.com/2YEF5MV ... any1 knows the problem ? how to resolve ? what shoud i search for ? '
[16:30] <nutzz> Hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 and it all works fine except one thing. My headphones are not working(I have tried with two different headphones, I also have windows 7 in dual boot and they work on windows). my laptop is a toshiba c55-a-1px. Here is the output of alsamixer http://imgur.com/llC8CNc and this is the how the sound menu from the system setting s look like http://imgur.com/Qomyn
[16:31] <nutzz> What should I do?
[16:32] <reza-as> tigraden: if you don't want your data its better to format your disk
[16:32] <tigerden> but if simply reinstalling is achieving same effect then that's fine.
[16:33] <tigerden> I just want to ask if installing this way will retain any of the old system programs
[16:33] <timedifference13> nutzz:HDMI out has been selected as output. Change to a different Audio Adaptor.
[16:33] <chocolate> alocer: have you fsck it?
[16:34] <cfhowlett> tigerden, format the partitions and they will be wiped.
[16:34] <chocolate> it looks like a "bad sector" for me
[16:34] <Guest252> hi i am here
[16:34] <alocer> chocolate: nope forgotten the command
[16:34] <tigerden> :( but what about without formatting?
[16:35] <chocolate> find command to run fsck on reboot
[16:35] <Guest252> so I apt-getted thermald and will edit the thermal-conf.xml file...must I do some sort of reloading to make the trip points active?
[16:35] <Guest252> ie a reboot?
[16:35] <cfhowlett> tigerden, if you *format* all programs, files and configs are wiped
[16:36] <squinty> alocer:  sudo touch /forcefsck
[16:36] <Guest252> thermald is running with --no-daemon flag...what does THAT mean?
[16:37] <tigerden> I know...but with installing on existing Ubuntu won't use any of the old programs right?
[16:37] <revo> hey all, so whats happening today...
[16:38] <ganiman> revo: Lovejoy comet!
[16:38] <revo> party time or home party...??
[16:38] <cfhowlett> tigerden, not installed - not used
[16:39] <revo> was going to whatch firework in London, but just found out they are charging now, no entry whitout tickts
[16:40] <revo> EriC^^,  how been keppin..whats the plan 4 today ???
[16:40] <tigerden> cfhowlett I just want to lose all my onfigs and preinstalled programs and scripts
[16:41] <cfhowlett> tigerden, FORMAT!!!!
[16:41] <tigerden> okay okay
[16:43] <brainacid> can I list packages installed by date?
[16:44] <timedifference13> Alright guys, this is a pretty nooby question, but how do I only quit out of Xfce and drop into the command line?
[16:44] <brainacid> it seems a package is not allowing me to clear my cache when i exec sudo sync ; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop-caches
[16:44] <brainacid> timedifference13, you can Ctrl + Alt + F1 to go to a tty
[16:44] <BluesKaj> timedifference13,ctl+alt+F1-F6
[16:45] <timedifference13> Thanks!
[16:46] <BluesKaj> timedifference13, to get back, ctl+alt+F7
[16:46] <kc_> About how much memory do different window managers use?
[16:48] <alocer> squinty: why should i do that ?
[16:50] <prince_jack> hi
[16:50] <prince_jack> quit
[16:54] <BluesKaj> kc trey them and find out, that's a difficult question to answer
[17:02] <gog34> Hi, I'm getting  permission denied when I try to mkdir in the terminal. My guess is because I set it to 777 to use Plex. Does anyone know what I should chmod it to so I can mkdir?
[17:05] <gog34> Actually, problem solved. I just sudo mkdir - kind of like using a hammer to kill a fly, but whatever, it worked...
[17:06] <Novice201y> I try to connect by OpenVPN Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu, but receive "us=788462 NOTE: failed to obtain options consistency info from peer -- this could occur if the remote peer is running a version of OpenVPN before 1.5-beta8 or if there is a network connectivity problem, and will not necessarily prevent OpenVPN from running (0 bytes received from peer, 0 bytes authenticated data channel traffic) -- you can disable the options consistency check
[17:07] <cfhowlett> !paste | Novice201y,
[17:08] <Novice201y> cfhowlett: OK and sorry
[17:08] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, nto to worry.
[17:08] <Crell> I worry about nto's all the time.
[17:09] <cfhowlett> doh!
[17:23] <ghost_> hi
[17:24] <Neophyte> hmm im on Smuxy now
[17:25] <Guest41204> well...
[17:25] <Guest41204> now im a guest
[17:25] <Guest41204> i wonder why
[17:26] <BluesKaj> Guest41204, in the server textbox do, /nick newnick
[17:26] <unixuser_try> excuse me. example: when i type : الكتاب in bash terminal, why in showed= ب ا ت ك ل ا (without space)? how to reverse it?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> !id | unixuser_try
[17:28] <unixuser_try> BluesKaj, thx..
[17:30] <unixuser_try> no respone in that chnnl
[17:31] <unixuser_try> BluesKaj,
[17:31] <unixuser_try> anyone can help?
[17:32] <cfhowlett> unixuser_try, as we don't read ... whatever that is ... kind of hard to analyze or assist
[17:32] <cfhowlett> sorry
[17:33] <unixuser_try> cfhowlett, ok , no problem, thx sir
[17:34] <cfhowlett> unixuser_check system > Language Suppport
[17:35] <unixuser_try> cfhowlett, ok sir, i will try .thx
[17:35] <pakair_> unixuser_try, I do not read/write arabic but it seems the terminal flipped left-to-right. See if you can set the locale for your language.
[17:40] <FreeMac> Hello everyone!
[17:40] <FreeMac> I have a question for installing Ubuntu without rEFIt. Is that possible?
[17:41] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, I take it youre installing on a Mac?
[17:41] <nicknamel> I've two Ubuntu systems on my computer. Do you know if grubx64.efi is ALWAYS looking in /boot/efi/EFI/-directory for grub.cfg-file?
[17:41] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Mhmm, that's right.
[17:41] <cfhowlett> !mac | FreeMac, short answer: it depends.  do your research
[17:42] <nedbat> does reading /dev/random take longer if the entropy is exhausted?
[17:43] <FreeMac> I have, and most "tutorial" sites/ articles show it being done via rEFIt. Can just holding the Option key during boot everytime be sufficient?
[17:44] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, it can be done WITHOUT refit as well.  also: more research ... refit is abandonwore.  current tool is reFIND
[17:45] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Ah, yes, I've seen that too. Could you perhaps point me in the right direction so I know what to look for?
[17:45] <FreeMac> I know that the mac doesn't use BIOS and hence the need for rEFIt/rEFInd.
[17:47] <nedbat> oh: /dev/random can block, /dev/urandom won't.
[17:47] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, I'm not a mac/buntu guy.  I most just boot it up on the sly at the Apple store.  sorry, but ... great firewall of china limits my search abilities.  see www.rodsbooks.com      for refit/refind goodness.
[17:48] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, I do know that newer macs don't need refind unless you're dual booting
[17:48] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Haha, great firewall of China. Good one.
[17:50] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Yeah, I'm looking to create another partition to dual boot, that's why. Otherwise, I could use some virtualization software, but that's not my optimal solution. A dual boot solution is preferred. The only thing standing in my way is rEFIt/rEFInd.
[17:50] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, refind will be your friend then.  hopefully you've got a newer mac to play on.
[17:51] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Yeah, my Mac is relatively new running on latest software. Just wanted to know if I could install Ubuntu without rEFInd. If that's even a possibility? Or is it completely impossible to your best knowledge?
[17:53] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, I think it's possible.  if 14.04.1 will boot the UEFI mac, I believe you can skip refind and still dualboot
[17:54] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Cool, do you know how I could do that? Or any resource which may be useful for me?
[17:55] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, easy.  download 14.04.1 64 bit .iso.  make a boot usb.  find a mac.  reboot with option key held.  select efi/uefi from the choices and boot!
[17:55] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Nice, that was what I was looking for. Thanks a bunch!
[17:56] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, hard to pull this off at the apple store, but I fired up the mac at the local walmart.  fun times.
[17:57] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Haha! What computer are you using?
[17:58] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, mac air, macbook and macpro all booted quite nicely
[17:59] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Nice, that's quite a lineup. You're using rEFInd I imagine?
[17:59] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, of course not!  as I said; you can boot a LIVE session without the need for refind/fit
[18:02] <Guest252> hi all ...i dont know what is up but im trying to stop my fan from running all the time, i updated my thermald xml file, restarted the daemon and the trigger points still seem to not be working
[18:03] <Guest252> if someone has a clue cud you pm me perhaps,ty
[18:06] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: I'm new to this, but how would I do that? And what do you mean by a "LIVE" session?
[18:06] <nmatrix9> Can somebody tell me how do I get smbclient to do a recursive chmod o+r on a directory?
[18:06] <ablegreen_w> Hi I would like to run a command with sudo with a keyboard shortcut. I understand sudo asks for the password through the terminal, so I'd need to use gksudo instead for the graphical password prompt. How can I do this without asking for a password at all?
[18:06] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, livesession means running from the usb --- NOT installed.  we do this for testing purposes.
[18:06] <nmatrix9> And no chmod o+r -R does not work
[18:08] <SchrodingersScat> ablegreen_w: my first instinct says "Please don't do that."
[18:08] <cfhowlett> ablegreen_w, this ^^^
[18:08] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Oh, I see. Yeah, I'm aware of that, though that does impact performance a bit doesn't it, and you have to keep the USB plugged in taking up USB slots, which in my case kinda sucks since I only have 2 USB ports on my Mac.
[18:08] <ablegreen_w> Well I'm using dmenu and whenever I bring it up, sudo doesn't work to launch programs
[18:09] <sudormrf> so I got my new SSD yesterday, popped it in and so far the system has been working.  but it took the thing a bit of time to fail last time.  I reinstalled the OS and had it running for a day or two before it failed.  still have the old SSD.  if I could get to the syslog on it I could possibly see what happened
[18:09] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, it's for testing.  and it your system will successfully boot 14.04.1 then you can *possibly* install it WITHOUT refind
[18:09] <sudormrf> either the other SSD failed, or the mobo is failing on the computer.  went with the SSD first since you can't buy a replacement NUC motherboard XD
[18:10] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: I see, thanks for the info. That was very helpful!
[18:10] <light94> ablegreen_w, if you are inclined to do it, you can try the following commands
[18:10] <light94> sudo EDITOR=gedit visudo
[18:10] <cfhowlett> FreeMac, have fun
[18:10] <FreeMac> cfhowlett: Can't wait to get started on Linux!
[18:10] <bubbasaures> sudormrf, and how is this related to ubuntu support?
[18:11] <light94> find the line , "root ALL=(ALL) ALL" ,
[18:11] <sudormrf> bubbasaures, this is a follow up to the issue that occurred yesterday (two days ago?) cfhowlett was helping me with it.  that is all.
[18:11] <light94> and use this instead username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[18:11] <ablegreen_w> light94: Not sure if that works for gksudo as well but I
[18:11] <ablegreen_w> I'll try it
[18:11] <bubbasaures> sudormrf, Than pm them or at the least preface with their nick.
[18:12] <sudormrf> bubbasaures, I was told that we are to avoid PM'ming in this chat as that defeats the purpose
[18:12] <cfhowlett> sudormrf, right, right.  you should be able to recover the logs ... if you can access the device at all.  plug it in, mirror the contents and unplug.  then analyze
[18:13] <bubbasaures> sudormrf, On getting help yes we like to have it peer reviewed, that's really for your benefit.
[18:13] <sudormrf> cfhowlett, yeah, it was still accessible last time I tried to mount it.  will pop it in when I get some time and see whats up.
[18:13] <cfhowlett> sudormrf, enjoy the ssd
[18:14] <sudormrf> bubbasaures, yep.  that is why I didn't really want to preface it with a name because there were a few people involved.  at any rate, hope this thing works out.
[18:14] <sudormrf> cfhowlett, hope I don't have to buy a new NUC :D
[18:14] <bubbasaures> sudormrf, Yeah best of luck, an SSD was my best buy yet.
[18:25] <anon__> Anyone here?
[18:26] <anon__> Anyone here?
[18:26] <bubbasaures> anon__, Many address your support issue for help.
[18:26] <cfhowlett> !ask | anon__,
[18:27] <anon__> For some reson my computer only accepts ubuntu boot disks.
[18:28] <cfhowlett> anon__, lucky you ...
[18:30] <anon__> Nothing else works and its really anoying I tried a windows 7 disk, a tails disk, a windows 8 disk, and a disk delete disk and only ubuntu is recognized by my uefi.
[18:33] <bubbasaures> anon__, This is not chat if you need help with a specific OS use their channel.
[18:42] <webflashing> Hi everyone, its my first time here. I recently installed Ubuntu Gnome 14.10. After several restarts, im experiencing that whenever the pc boots, I see the desktop background and the mouse pointer but no enviroment at all. Im able to switch to another tty, but unable to open a terminal from the current one. The only solution is to press Win + L to lock, unclok and then the enviroment appears. Any idea what could be causing this or how can I start inv
[18:42] <webflashing> estigating what could be causing this problem? Thanks very much!
[18:44] <bubbasaures> webflashing, This the gnome shell desktop install?
[18:45] <webflashing> bubbasaures: yes indeed
[18:45] <bubbasaures> webflashing, Strange, my guess would be graphic driver and the latest kernel upgrade.
[18:46] <bubbasaures> webflashing, I would see if the guest account opens the same way.
[18:46] <webflashing> I downloaded the AMD Drivers by going to "Sfotware & Updates" > "Additional Drivers" -> And selecting the option "Using Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators from fglrx (propietary)"
[18:47] <webflashing> Altho, I know nothing about the kernel yet, this is my first time with linux
[18:47] <webflashing> Oh, and something I forgot to mention, I enabled the system to log in automatically, thats why there is no login screen.
[18:48] <bubbasaures> webflashing, Not an area I have really had to mess with all intel all the time here, but I see help in this area all the time here.
[18:50] <Caleb---> hi, any idea why my NFS shares seem to be automatically unmounted if they are unused?
[18:50] <webflashing> I see, well I'l investigate more. As I mentioned, it is currently a problem with a workaround easy enough
[18:51] <Cobalt> Hello. Have a question. Have installed 14.10. I connected my bluetooth keyboard and my bluetooth trackpad to my desktop. Ubuntu reports both as having depleted rechargeable laptop batteries. They have LR6 batteries which are new. How do I stop this erroneous behaviour?
[18:53] <kristenbb> hello, can someone please help me to troubleshoot why my ubuntu laptop is not able to join a particular wireless network, although he is able to join another wireless network, and although another computer is able to join the first network ?
[18:54] <ShalokShalom> ubuntu 1404 goes into sleep here and return always in busy box
[18:54] <ShalokShalom> cant restore data in life stick because of that
[18:55] <bubbasaures> ShalokShalom, Life stick?
[18:55] <ShalokShalom> yes, i am now i life mode
[18:56] <lolking55> hello
[18:56] <lolking55> Is there anybody out thereeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[18:57] <lolking55> if u r plz fuck yourself
[18:57] <bubbasaures> !ops | lolking55
[19:00] <Cobalt> Hi there people. I'm here to help you answer my support question. Bugs 1153488 and 108674 deal with this issue, and it appears that I am doomed. Many thanks. Goodbye. Have a happy new year.
[19:04] <Lartza> I just updated some php packages which had changed configs and it opened some stupid dialogs asking what to do so I kept old ones, dpkg doesn't keep the dpkg-new anywhere?
[19:04] <Lartza> If I reinstall the packages does it ask about the config and what can I do then?
[19:06] <atxq> hey guys, system freezes after I login. I get a message about "flashplugin-installer".
[19:06] <atxq> how can I fix this problem?
[19:10] <gauss> Is it possible to mount an unknown partition in an ubuntu live session?
[19:10] <malimbar> atxq, what is the message?
[19:11] <malimbar> gauss, I haven't tried it, but it should be
[19:12] <gauss> When I try it I receive the message: "mount: block device /dev/sda7 is write-protected, mounting read only
[19:12] <gauss> "
[19:12] <gauss> and "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[19:17] <eRespond> I hacker ask me
[19:18] <malimbar> gauss, so it is mounting fine, it's just a permissions problem
[19:19] <malimbar> gauss, can you just change the permissions to allow it?
[19:19] <gauss> Perhaps. I'm a bit of a noob though. Let me look into it.
[19:20] <gauss> The partition itself is only 3.81GB.
[19:20] <malimbar> sounds like a good learning experience. I'll do a bit of internet browsing to see if I stumble on anything
[19:20] <gauss> I'm mostly curious as to what is on this partition.
[19:20] <gauss> I have Windows 7 and Linu Mint installed on the laptop.
[19:20] <atxq> the screen freezes after login so I cannot print screen. Is there a log file that has additional information about system errors?
[19:20] <malimbar> gauss, so you have 3 partitions, and 1 is windows, 1 is mint?
[19:21] <gauss> Actually, I have too many.
[19:21] <malimbar> how many?
[19:21] <OerHeks> !mint
[19:21] <nmatrix9> Anyone know how to change the permissions of a smb/nfs share via smbclient
[19:21] <nmatrix9> ?
[19:22] <gauss> 6
[19:22] <malimbar> OerHeks, luckily he's not asking about mint problems, just general tech stuff. that shouldn't matter too much
[19:22] <gauss> Yes. I'm currently running Ubuntu live.
[19:24] <malimbar> gauss, that's a lot of partitions. my god. 4 GB could be just about anything though
[19:24] <malimbar> could be a relic from when you did an install, could be a recovery partition, could be one of windows partitions (I think they do multiple for windows 7), could be who knows
[19:25] <malimbar> gauss, first thing I would do is check to see how it's formatted, that could give a clue
[19:25] <gauss> There's already a separate recovery partition.
[19:25] <ShalokShalom> ubuntu 1404 goes into sleep here and return always in busy box
[19:26] <gauss> which has filesystem ntfs
[19:27] <Dragonkeeper> hey im on 64 bit ubuntu 14 and need 32bit java, which package name should i install
[19:27] <malimbar> install 32 bit java :)
[19:27] <Dragonkeeper> which is called ?
[19:27] <malimbar> Dragonkeeper, you can get a whole bunch of 32 bit libraries by installing ia32-libs , but I think that's depreciated in favor of just installing individual 32 bit libraries
[19:28] <Dragonkeeper> ok o.O
[19:28] <Dragonkeeper> malimbar: so whats the 32bit openjdk called lol
[19:28] <malimbar> let me see what' sin the software center
[19:28] <Dragonkeeper> :)
[19:29] <atxq> screen unresponsive after I login to Ubuntu 14.10. is there a command I can run to find out what is causing the problem?
[19:30] <atxq> I get a message about flashplugin-installer could not retrieve additional files from the web.
[19:31] <malimbar> atxq, the entire screen in unresponsive? or just certain webpages?
[19:31] <atxq> uninstalled flashplugin-installer. problem still persists.
[19:31] <atxq> entire screen. cannot click anything.
[19:31] <malimbar> atxq, that's really weird
[19:31] <bubbasaures> atxq, so far none of that makes sense.
[19:32] <atxq> I know
[19:32] <bubbasaures> than stop
[19:32] <atxq> small light blue square top left appears
[19:32] <bubbasaures> we can help if you use some basic discovery skills
[19:32] <atxq> about 500x200 px
[19:33] <malimbar> ok, I gotta focus on the java thing first. Dragonkeeper, I assume you just need the runtime environment? you're not programming or anything...?
[19:33] <atxq> how can I fix this issue? reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and unity, but did not help fix the issue
[19:34] <Dragonkeeper> nope just need the 32bit runtime , not really used to using ubuntu package system
[19:34] <malimbar> I think it's openjdk-8-jre:i386 you're looking for then
[19:34] <Dragonkeeper> ok let me try that
[19:34] <malimbar> generally just add :i386 to the end of whatever the library is to get the 32 bit version
[19:35] <megagiganoob> Hello folks, hoping someone might be able to help. I'm trying to make a distro of xubuntu based on my current setup. I volunteer at a free site to help people learn web development and the idea is to be able to give them an image they can load into a vm and not have to worry about configuration
[19:35] <malimbar> atxq, I'm still wondering wtf flash plugin would have to do with your desktop screen
[19:35] <bubbasaures> !java | Dragonkeeper
[19:35] <megagiganoob> I'm going through the livecd customization but I'm at a point I'm not sure what to do. I've installed ruby and git. I'd like to install linuxbrew for node and yeoman so the users don't have to mess with sudo, but I'm unsure where to edit the path
[19:35] <bubbasaures> malimbar, no swearing acronyms or swearing here theanks.
[19:35] <atxq> that is the last message that I see after unity loads
[19:35] <megagiganoob> sorry for the wall of text
[19:35] <malimbar> bubbasaures, sorry
[19:36] <malimbar> yeah, no idea on that atxq. I'd have to poke around blindly for a while before I got anywhere
[19:36] <Dragonkeeper> malimbar: nope that package isnt found
[19:36] <atxq> any command I can run to help fihure out the issue?
[19:37] <malimbar> atxq, more than I know of. I'd just go to the system monitor first to see what's running, and online searchinga lot
[19:37] <malimbar> duckduckgo is great. Or google of course
[19:38] <atxq> cannot load anything. screen unresponsive.
[19:38] <atxq> google offered no help on this issue
[19:38] <malimbar> Dragonkeeper, try openjdk-7-jre:i386 then
[19:38] <malimbar> or whatever loads when you type sudo apt-get install op <tab>
[19:38] <malimbar> actually press tab, not type it :)
[19:39] <atxq> after upgrading to 14.10, screen became unresponsive
[19:39] <Dragonkeeper> E: Unable to locate package openjdk-7-jre
[19:39] <malimbar> jre is what you're looking for though
[19:39] <diddledan> what better than a new year cenebration lounging on a sofa watching sandra's bullocks in "the net"
[19:40] <malimbar> Dragonkeeper, openjdk-7-jre:i386 ?
[19:40] <daftykins> diddledan: wrong channel! :P
[19:40] <Dragonkeeper> mine says not found malimbar
[19:40] <diddledan> oops
[19:40] <diddledan> thanks daftykins
[19:41] <malimbar> Dragonkeeper, what are you typing in the terminal exactly?
[19:41] <Dragonkeeper>  sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre:i386
[19:41] <malimbar> strange, it worked for me
[19:42] <malimbar> what options op up if you tab?
[19:42] <Dragonkeeper> if i tab ?
[19:42] <malimbar> ie "sudo apt-get install openjdk" then the tab key?
[19:43] <Dragonkeeper> malimbar: all the openjdk stuff seems to be there
[19:44] <malimbar> and there is openjdk-7-jre in that list?
[19:44] <Dragonkeeper> yes
[19:44] <Dragonkeeper> 64bit version
[19:45] <atxq> what would happen removing nvidia-common*
[19:45] <malimbar> weird. You didn't turn off any ubuntu repositories ora nything, did you?
[19:46] <ShalokShalom> ubuntu 1404 goes into sleep here and return always in busy box
[19:46] <ShalokShalom> cant restore data in life stick because of that
[19:47] <malimbar> atxq, that sounds like graphics driver stuff, I wouldn't touch  that
[19:47] <malimbar> Dragonkeeper, why do you want the 32 bit version anyways?
[19:48] <Dragonkeeper> malimbar: nvm i fixed it .  and its a requirement for something im using on server.  im just too used to portage xD
[19:48] <malimbar> lol, sweet. How did you fix it?
[19:49] <Dragonkeeper> dpkg --add-architecture
[19:49] <malimbar> ah, awesome
[19:52] <bubbasaures> ShalokShalom, Not sure anyone knows what a "life stick" is here, can you expand that?
[19:53] <DJones> bubbasaures: I suspect it means a "live usb "
[19:53] <bubbasaures> probably just confirming
[19:54] <ShalokShalom> ubuntu 1404 goes into sleep here and return always in busy box
[19:54] <ShalokShalom> cant restore data in life stick because of that
[19:54] <pmeeke> I am having problems with fusermount if anyone can help.. when i mount the mounted folder looks like d????????? ? ?          ?              ?            ? Test
[19:54] <ShalokShalom> sleep mode returns not correct
[19:54] <bubbasaures> ShalokShalom, Is this a usb loaded with the iso? If so do you have a persistence set?
[19:54] <ShalokShalom> and since that is it impossible to access the device in live mode
[19:54] <ShalokShalom> no
[19:54] <ShalokShalom> this is installation
[19:55] <ShalokShalom> and i try to recover the files
[19:55] <ShalokShalom> which is not possible in live mode, since the broken sleep mode avoid that
[19:55] <pmeeke> sorry that looks very confusing the directory permissions just have ??? instead of rwx and user:group is just ???:???
[19:56] <ShalokShalom> when i start into the installation, is the busy box all what i get
[19:56] <ShalokShalom> even in recovery mode
[19:57] <otaku0424>  /join #channel #fedora
[19:57] <bubbasaures> ShalokShalom, In order to help we have to communicate, this is helped by exact answers and prefaced with the nick to whom it's for. Is english your first language?
[19:57] <Chuck_Norris> pmeeke: you can't mount .isos in write mode, it is like a standar, what you can do is, once mounted you can copy the content to another folder and then change permisions
[19:58] <ShalokShalom> german is my native language
[19:58] <otaku0424> Anyone have experience with freeipa/sssd and getting ad trust setup?
[19:58] <bubbasaures> ShalokShalom, There is a german ubuntu channel if needed.
[19:58] <bubbasaures> !gr
[19:58] <pmeeke> Chuck_Norris: it is dropbox i am trying to mount vi a python script "dropfuse", but have tried a few today with the same issues
[19:58] <bubbasaures> errr thats greek sorry
[19:59] <Pici> !de
[19:59] <otaku0424> I'm right at the cusp, kerberos authenticating but can't ssh into the server with a windows login.
[19:59] <ShalokShalom> its simple:
[19:59] <ShalokShalom> i go in sleep mode
[19:59] <Chuck_Norris> pmeeke: oh! sry idk then
[19:59] <ShalokShalom> when i restart the machine, i get the busy box
[19:59] <ShalokShalom> even in recovery mode
[20:00] <bubbasaures> ShalokShalom, #ubuntu-de  you might try here,
[20:02] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: when you restart out of busybox it works?
[20:03] <ShalokShalom> how to ?
[20:03] <ShalokShalom> EriC^^:
[20:03] <EriC^^> when you restart normally
[20:04] <ShalokShalom> from busy box ?
[20:04] <Gr3yClo4k> test 123
[20:04] <ShalokShalom> with which command ?
[20:04] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: reboot
[20:04] <ShalokShalom> ok
[20:04] <ShalokShalom> i will try, that thanks
[20:04] <ShalokShalom> why does kubuntu that not automaticly ?
[20:05] <ShalokShalom> unable to boot the sleep mode > boot the casual settings ?
[20:05] <ShalokShalom> thanks
[20:05] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: ok, you mean you are hibernating?
[20:05] <ShalokShalom> yes
[20:05] <EriC^^> when it tries to resume you get busybox
[20:05] <EriC^^> ok
[20:05] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: does it mention why?
[20:05] <ShalokShalom> when hibernating is hdd, then i mean hibbernating
[20:06] <ShalokShalom> sorry, i always confuse these 2
[20:06] <ShalokShalom> especially in english
[20:06] <ShalokShalom> mentoin why ? i dont think so
[20:06] <ShalokShalom> if yes and restart dont helps, i come back and report you
[20:06] <ShalokShalom> thanks for the great support :)
[20:07] <brianf> Hi All. Im currently using XChat as an IRC client, but is their any other client that is more prefered for an IRC newcomer or is this the best one to use?
[20:07] <daftykins> hexchat
[20:07] <EriC^^> brianf: it's pretty much the prettiest most user friendly client
[20:07] <theadmin> brianf: If you're comfortable with it, just use it -- it supports pretty much all IRC features from what I know.
[20:07] <daftykins> there is no such thing as "best"
[20:08] <brianf> yea i actually like it. its simple and non cluttered.
[20:09] <Chuck_Norris> brianf: also try "Polari" its is a client writed for gnome-shell
[20:09] <brianf> ok! thanks chuck
[20:09] <Chuck_Norris> brianf: np
[20:13] <michael7119> quit
[20:14] <daftykins> michael7119: but you only just got here!
[20:15] <q__> test check
[20:17] <ShalokShalom> EriC^^: i get into initramfs, restart takes no effect there
[20:17] <ShalokShalom> no reason why, just busy box
[20:18] <kristenbb> hello, can someone please help me to troubleshoot why my ubuntu laptop is not able to join a particular wireless network, although he is able to join another wireless network, and although another computer is able to join the first network ?
[20:18] <ShalokShalom> i just want to recover the files
[20:18] <ShalokShalom> and install fresh then
[20:18] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: is it a wuby install?
[20:18] <EriC^^> *wubi
[20:19] <ShalokShalom> no
[20:21] <u0m3> hi. can anyone tell me if it is possible install nvidia drivers without bumblebee on a optimus laptop ?
[20:21] <ablest1980> hi
[20:22] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: does it say any error?
[20:22] <ShalokShalom> no
[20:22] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: can you take a picture of the screen when it drops to busybox?
[20:23] <ShalokShalom> it displays no info
[20:23] <ShalokShalom> really :)
[20:23] <EriC^^> ok,
[20:23] <EriC^^> try to fsck the disk maybe
[20:24] <EriC^^> sudo touch /forcefsck , then restart
[20:25] <ShalokShalom> sudo touch /forcefsck
[20:25] <ShalokShalom> restart
[20:25] <ShalokShalom> yes ?
[20:25] <S_SubZero> hi, I'm writing a script to automatically create a user in Ubuntu 14.04.  I want the user created as if it were done through the GUI.  I can't seem to get it working.
[20:26] <worenga> S_SubZero: adduser vs useradd
[20:26] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: restart using the button, or sudo reboot
[20:26] <andlabs|2> is there a way I can get the adddress of an inode's information with debugfs?
[20:26] <ShalokShalom> ok
[20:26] <andlabs|2> I want to see if the data for this inode really is lost in a bad sector or not
[20:26] <Guest71531> hi
[20:26] <ShalokShalom> thanks
[20:26] <S_SubZero> worenga: whichever one gets the job done really
[20:26] <Guest71531> i love sex
[20:26] <Caleb---> what's a good place for a folder with my custom scripts? (~/scripts? or ~/bin?)
[20:27] <Crell> Guest71531: Go find it somewhere else.
[20:27] <Guest71531> i love cock
[20:27] <andlabs|2> Caleb---: canonically ~/bin but you can choose whatever folder you want so long as you add it to $PATH
[20:27] <elmokhtar> Hi all :p
[20:28] <S_SubZero> worenga: I can get the user created, but for whatever reason useradd never creates the home directory.  When I try to login as the user, it just throws me back out
[20:28] <EriC^^> S_SubZero: how are you creating it
[20:28] <blackangelpr> Guest71531, ali@188.245.130.200 behave!
[20:28] <zykotick9> S_SubZero: i'd suggest adduser instead of useradd YMMV
[20:29] <S_SubZero> EriC^^: useradd $USERNAME -c "$FULLNAME" -p $(openssl passwd -1 $PASS) -g $USERNAME -G (same groups the initial user gets)
[20:29] <EriC^^> S_SubZero: you need -m for it to create a home dir
[20:30] <andlabs|2> ah imap
[20:30] <andlabs|2> now I just need to convert the block to a file address...
[20:30] <S_SubZero> ah, I'll tryit
[20:31] <scientes> how do i install keyboard layouts?
[20:31] <scientes> I need IPA
[20:31] <blackangelpr> scientes, system settings ->  text entry
[20:31] <blackangelpr> left colum
[20:34] <S_SubZero> ah much better, thx
[20:35] <wad> Needing some hints on getting my ubuntu box configured as a gateway, so I'm connected to irc on my phone. We'll see how this works.
[20:36] <xcyclist> I guess I can't just install capistrano and look at the man page.  Oh well.
[20:36] <andlabs|2> ok reasking now that I have a concrete question
[20:37] <andlabs|2> I have an ext4 partition dump (my previous install's /home partition) made with ddrescue and I want to see if the inode table entry with my /home dir has been damaged. I have the block number - 145752096 - but I want a file address. Is there anything I can do? Thanks.
[20:37] <wad> I've edited /etc/network/interfaces for eth0 (wan, dhcp) and eth1 (lan, static ip). Disabled network manager. Enabled ipv4 forwarding.
[20:38] <andlabs|2> er
[20:38] <andlabs|2> I want an address in my disk dump
[20:38] <andlabs|2> is there a better channel for this (onet hat does not require registration to talk?)
[20:40] <wad> But on boot, ubuntu fails to get any ip address for eth0. Claims link is not ready. But if I unconfig all the stuff, network manager connects just fine. Ideas, anyone?
[20:40] <netcrash> Hello, Just today I was on a system that in df -h did not show any partitions but doing cat /proc/mounts displayed all of them mounted, what could be the problem?
[20:41] <EriC^^> netcrash: have you used sshfs lately
[20:41] <ShalokShalom> EriC^^: /bin/sh: not found
[20:41] <blackangelpr> wad,  did you get sure that static ip you assig was available on your network ? -> inside your router not taken?
[20:41] <netcrash> EriC^^: no, why could that be related?
[20:42] <EriC^^> netcrash: if the server is down df will get funky
[20:42] <netcrash> EriC^^: that desktop isn't with any mount to a server
[20:42] <blackangelpr> wad, http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-in-ubuntu-the-proper-way/
[20:42] <ikonia> use network manager on the desktop
[20:42] <ikonia> that is the proper way
[20:42] <wad> Yes, eth0 is dhcp from comcast, eth1 is 192.168.7.1, it is unique.
[20:43] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: ?
[20:43] <OerHeks> wad, make sure the 1st Tab in networkmanager 'all users may onnect to this network' enabled
[20:43] <Guest71531> shit
[20:43] <ShalokShalom> that is the result
[20:43] <ikonia> Guest71531: no need to swear
[20:43]  * wad clicks and goes to read, thanks
[20:43] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: after rebooting?
[20:43] <Guest71531> shut up bitch
[20:44] <netcrash> EriC^^: besides that the system root (/) was full and could not see how to empty it.
[20:44] <EriC^^> netcrash: oh
[20:44] <netcrash> "empty it"
[20:45] <EriC^^> netcrash: do you have a seperate /boot ?
[20:45] <wad> Oerheks, but I'm pretty sure I want network manager disabled entirely, right? That's how I had it working on the machine I am replacing.
[20:45] <netcrash> EriC^^: what made me loose more time was the fact that the system df -h did not show anything.
[20:46] <blackangelpr> wad,  normally your  ip with .1 at the end are saved for your router .... computer uses something else .2 .3 .4 .100 .150 etc XD depending on your ip range
[20:47] <wad> Black, yep, this IS the router. :-)
[20:47] <cryptodan> Ive seen routers with .254 as the ending octet
[20:47] <blackangelpr> i said normally cryptodan XD
[20:48] <wad> This ubuntu box is going to be a router, connecting my comcast wan to my home lan.
[20:48] <netcrash> EriC^^: no
[20:48] <andlabs|2> 0x8B00020000  0x00001000  -
[20:48] <andlabs|2> well that answers that
[20:48] <andlabs|2> thanks
[20:48] <andlabs|2> (it's just block number * block size)
[20:48] <wad> I'm replacing my old ubuntu router with this new one.
[20:48] <andlabs|2> now I need to figure out some magic to repair bad sectors...
[20:49] <ShalokShalom> EriC^^: /bin/sh: not found
[20:49] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: type ls -l /bin/sh
[20:53] <ShalokShalom> thanks
[20:54] <jhutchins> wad: Using a full-fledged PC is a bit of overkill for a router.  dd-wrt on a linksys should be plenty.
[20:55] <jhutchins> blackangelpr: By convention the router is usually the first or sometimes the last IP in a subnet, but that's only convention, it can be anywhere in the range.
[20:57] <wad> Jhutchins, yeah, it does a bunch of other stuff also. Print server, website host, file server,, etc.
[20:57] <cryptodan> wad, so a one stop shop for hackers?
[21:00] <wad> Oh it gets lots of breakin attempts. Fail2ban  FTW.
[21:01] <Qbuo> Hey, how the hell do i connect to my wifi on first time setup
[21:02] <jhutchins> wad: Real admins don't run ssh on 22.
[21:02] <jhutchins> !wifi
[21:02] <Qbuo> Hello?
[21:03] <Qbuo> Those are useless, they require an ethernet connection, do i need some driver or something just to detect my home wifi???
[21:03] <jhutchins> wad: I prefer to have my firewall/router upstream of the rest of the services.
[21:03] <ikonia> Qbuo: your card needs to be supported
[21:03] <wad> Jhutchins, good point. I should probably use a different port. Not that anyone couldn't find it anyway.
[21:04] <cryptodan> wad, you should not be using a router to host anything but to route traffic
[21:04] <Qbuo> I have a new asus motherboard, no reason why it wouldnt be
[21:04] <ikonia> Qbuo: just because it's new has no relevence to if it's support
[21:04] <ikonia> supported
[21:04] <jhutchins> wad: True, but the additional effort takes you out of a lot of scripts and bulk attempts, and it also shows you're probably sharp enough that you're not worth a casual hack.
[21:04] <wad> Agreed.
[21:05] <jhutchins> Qbuo: If you were to read the docs you would find out how to determine your chipset and what it requires for support.
[21:05] <wad> As for the router doing other stuff, why not? The machine is plenty powerful to do it all.
[21:05] <cryptodan> wad, defense in depth
[21:05] <Qbuo> Where can i find supported motherboards/wwifi card things
[21:05] <jhutchins> Qbuo: At the link ubottu posted.
[21:07] <Qbuo> I have a Killer E2200 network card
[21:08] <Qbuo> On an msi mobo
[21:08] <cryptodan> Qbuo: what chipset?
[21:08] <ShalokShalom> ls is ls
[21:08] <ShalokShalom> -l: not found
[21:08] <Qbuo> What chipset is the motherboard or what?
[21:09] <cryptodan> Qbuo: your network card
[21:09] <ShalokShalom> .. /bin/sh is /bin/sh
[21:10] <ShalokShalom> EriC^^:
[21:11] <jhutchins> ShalokShalom: You are not making sense.
[21:11] <Qbuo> Killer ethernet is all it says
[21:11] <ShalokShalom> jhutchins: Eric know my issue
[21:11] <Qbuo> Wel fuck
[21:11] <Qbuo> How do i tell if i even have a wireless card
[21:12] <jhutchins> Qbuo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:12] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: i think you typed "type ls -l /bin/sh"
[21:12] <jhutchins> Qbuo: We could just tell you, but why not have a look and get some backgoround, as well as the answers to your next three questions?
[21:12] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: dont leave, no need to get into the busybox
[21:12] <ShalokShalom> this is the result
[21:13] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: are you in ubuntu right now?
[21:13] <ShalokShalom> how to avoid ?
[21:13] <ShalokShalom> in live ?
[21:13] <ShalokShalom> no ROSA
[21:13] <ShalokShalom> which tool ?
[21:13] <ShalokShalom> or download buntu ?
[21:13] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: huh?
[21:13] <jhutchins> Qbuo: ifconfig /a should show the card if the driver's loaded, lspci -nn will give you the chipset name and pciid.
[21:13] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: you said ubuntu boots but when you hibernate it goes to busybox right?
[21:14] <ShalokShalom> yes, the installation
[21:14] <jhutchins> !de
[21:14] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: ok, are you in it right now?
[21:14] <ShalokShalom> i guess you mean now in live mode (there i am on ROSA)
[21:14] <ShalokShalom> how can i chat with you in  busy box xD `?
[21:14] <Qbuo> Well the drivers not loaded as my computer has no internet
[21:15] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: i mean the installation, you said it boots and only goes to busybox if you resume from hibernation
[21:15] <xcyclist> http://pastie.org/9807056
[21:15] <jhutchins> Qbuo: Not necessarily.  Takes more than just drivers.
[21:15] <ShalokShalom> yes
[21:15] <ShalokShalom> this is kubuntu 1404
[21:15] <xcyclist> I just came back from a disconnect.  Sorry if I missed something.
[21:15] <xcyclist> Oddly it doesn't do that if I run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:16] <jhutchins> ShalokShalom: Easy answer is don't hibernate, boot is pretty quick.
[21:16] <ShalokShalom> you miss nothing :)
[21:16] <ShalokShalom> jhutchins: i know, this is my meaning as well
[21:16] <jhutchins> ShalokShalom: swap is greater than ram?
[21:16] <ShalokShalom> friends computer and default behaviour in kde sc 4, when you close the laptop lid
[21:16] <Qbuo> "lscpi -nn" did nothing
[21:16] <jhutchins> ShalokShalom: Ah.  That is often configurable.
[21:16]  * Chuck_Norris would like to share a link:  https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/user-liberation-watch-and-share-our-new-video
[21:17] <ShalokShalom> will change this in future every time to shut down the screen
[21:17] <ShalokShalom> yes, ofc it is
[21:17] <cryptodan> Qbuo: just do lspci or lsusb and dpaste.com it
[21:17] <jhutchins> Qbuo: ls (list) pci (pci bus) lspci -nn
[21:17] <ShalokShalom> i just forget it, when i set up the device for him
[21:17] <Qbuo> Dont underatand why the thing wont just search for wifi conections then let me click connect
[21:17] <ShalokShalom> sleep and hibernation is senseless at all for me
[21:17] <ShalokShalom> makes just much effort to support it
[21:18] <jhutchins> Qbuo: Because you didn't pay for Bill Gates' minions to do the work for you.
[21:18] <ShalokShalom> EriC^^: no need to get in busy box, you mean ?
[21:18] <jhutchins> Qbuo: For a lot of chipsets that works, but some take extra effort because the manufactureres are creative.
[21:18] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: not sure about this stuff
[21:19] <EriC^^> ShalokShalom: if it can't resume hibernation, can you set it straight from a live usb or something?
[21:19] <Qbuo> All mine says is qualcomm aetheros killer e2200 ethernet controler
[21:19] <Qbuo> What am i looking for
[21:20] <cryptodan> Qbuo: more than likely there are no drivers for it as those killer nics are designed for windows only
[21:20] <Qbuo> Well fuck
[21:20] <Qbuo> What now
[21:20] <Qbuo> Go buy windows key offa reddit?
[21:20] <jhutchins> Qbuo: If you used -nn you would get a pciid, and I have a database I can search for details on support.
[21:20] <cryptodan> Qbuo: I would suggest getting an Intel 6300 or 7200 series nic, and watch the language here
[21:21] <Qbuo> Im not about yo buy a new motherboard for a free operating system lol
[21:21] <clockwork_> Helo
[21:21] <clockwork_> Hello*
[21:21] <cryptodan> its network card
[21:21] <cryptodan> it costs roughly 40 bucks
[21:21] <jhutchins> Qbuo: You could also get a USB NIC.
[21:21] <Qbuo> well windows keys are 10 bucks
[21:21] <clockwork_> Could someone tell me how I can stream audio from Pulse to my android device via RTP?
[21:22] <cryptodan> Qbuo: probably pirated
[21:22] <S_SubZero> does Ubuntu have issues with having executable scripts on USB sticks?  For some reason it's totally ignoring any chmod +x on a bash script on my stick, but if I move the script to the local drive, it allows chmod.
[21:22] <Qbuo> Pirated windows is probably a lot easier to set up than this haha
[21:22] <daftykins> Qbuo: inappropriate.
[21:22] <EriC^^> S_SubZero: depends on the mount options
[21:22] <clockwork_> Pirated Windows? Windows 10 technical preview is as easy as it gets
[21:23] <jhutchins> Qbuo: Should be usable with the atheros drivers.
[21:23] <zykotick9> S_SubZero: is your stick fat/ntfs?  could those filesystems don't support POSIX permissions
[21:23] <Qbuo> What?
[21:23] <cryptodan> Qbuo: this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106251
[21:23] <S_SubZero> zykotick9: yeah I suspected that, it's fat32
[21:23] <Qbuo> i am really confused
[21:23] <ShalokShalom> EriC^^: set it straight from live mode ? how ?
[21:23] <jhutchins> ShalokShalom: Probably mounted noexec.
[21:23] <zykotick9> S_SubZero: use a real filesystem ;)  best of luck.
[21:23] <ShalokShalom> i just want recover the personal data, OS is unimportant
[21:24] <Qbuo> That's umm... 50 bucks
[21:24] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: using a live session should allow you to get to your drives
[21:24] <cryptodan> Qbuo: yeah it also works on multiple operating systems out of the box
[21:24] <jhutchins> Qbuo: What kernel do you have (uname -r)
[21:24] <Qbuo> whats a kernel
[21:24] <Techspectre> Anyone ever try to do the whole crouton thing with a chromebook?
[21:25] <jhutchins> Qbuo: e2200 works w/3.16.
[21:25] <jhutchins> Qbuo: Just do uname -r on a command line.
[21:25] <Qbuo> What is 3.16, i cant connect to the internet right now
[21:25] <jhutchins> 3.16 is a version of the kernel, which is the core of the operating system.
[21:25] <Qbuo> Uname -r
[21:26] <jhutchins> Qbuo: Not here, command line/console
[21:26] <blackangelpr> go to ubuntu pres ctrl+t then type that
[21:26] <blackangelpr> ctrl +alt +t
[21:26] <blackangelpr> sorry XD
[21:26] <Qbuo> It says: 3.13.0-32-generic
[21:27] <daftykins> ^14.04 trusty out of date
[21:28] <jhutchins> Qbuo: You need a newer kernel, v.3.16 or better should work.  You could install 14.10, it's the current release anyway, or you could download the kernel and transfer it to the machine with a USB drive.
[21:28] <Qbuo> Jhutchins: it says 3.13-0-generic
[21:29] <jhutchins> Qbuo: If you could temporarily you could upgrade directly to 14.10.
[21:29] <Qbuo> Where do i do that from
[21:29] <Qbuo> I welp
[21:29] <daftykins> Qbuo: same way you just installed 14.04.
[21:29] <Qbuo> It took me 13 hours to install 14.04
[21:30] <daftykins> seriously? did you find the floppy edition? :P
[21:30] <Qbuo> No, i just had my whole family on netflix and youtube
[21:30] <cryptodan> Qbuo: doesnt your motherboard also have wired?
[21:30] <Qbuo> Wired wat?
[21:31] <cryptodan> Qbuo: ethernet
[21:31] <Qbuo> Thats what the card is isnt it
[21:31] <jhutchins> Qbuo: Actually, it looks like you need to upgrade to 14.10, 3.16 is not available in trusty.
[21:31] <daftykins> cryptodan: that's what a killer NIC is, silly
[21:31] <cryptodan> he was talking wireless
[21:31] <jhutchins> That's what I understood too.
[21:32] <cryptodan> the killer wired nics usually come with Intel Chipsets
[21:32] <daftykins> ah ok, well i think they do both
[21:32] <Qbuo> On the mobo box it says ethernet congroller
[21:32] <daftykins> state the make and model of board
[21:32] <jhutchins> Qbuo: My recommendation would be to reinstall with 14.10.  That would be the simplest solution.
[21:32] <Qbuo> MSI 7z87m Gaming
[21:32] <easy_> how can I mount a large hard drive I have in an external USB box in 14.04?
[21:33] <daftykins> easy_: it should be auto
[21:33] <Qbuo> *z87m
[21:33] <easy_> no doesn't even show up
[21:34] <xcyclist> Say, what initializes the hostname inside the standard user prompt?
[21:34] <daftykins> ok guys - verdict is it's wired LAN - http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z87M-GAMING.html#hero-specification
[21:34] <daftykins> so that'll be a tip for the new year, don't assume :)
[21:34] <daftykins> "1x Killer E2205 Gigabit LAN controller"
[21:34] <Qbuo> So what do i do
[21:34] <cryptodan> He stated wireless though
[21:35] <blackangelpr> easy_, if you plug it into the usb and do lsusb could you see it?
[21:35] <daftykins> the customer is always wrong ;)
[21:35] <Qbuo> I said i wanted to connect to my wifi is all
[21:35] <easy_> No, not at all
[21:35] <blackangelpr> meh try another usb port just incase
[21:35] <cryptodan> Qbuo: wired lan and wireless lan are totally different
[21:36] <Qbuo> So i need an ethernet cable?
[21:36] <easy_> nope, not listed via lsusb
[21:36] <daftykins> Qbuo: what have you been doing so far? did you think it was wireless?
[21:36] <Qbuo> Yea
[21:37] <daftykins> Qbuo: open a terminal and run this: "ip a" do you see anything other than 'lo' ?
[21:37] <jhutchins> easy_: run dmesg, see if it sees a USB device.  If not you have a hardware problem.
[21:37] <easy_> ip a
[21:37] <wad> I'm back, and I'm not on my phone now! Wow, a real keyboard....
[21:37] <Qbuo> I see eth0
[21:37] <blackangelpr> easy_,  dumb question but it happends some external usb have two usb cable one for data and one for information tranfer if they have two use them
[21:37] <jhutchins> Qbuo: If you have an e2200, it's probably not going to work unless you upgrade to 14.10.
[21:37] <blackangelpr> i mean one for power and one for data
[21:38] <daftykins> Qbuo: yeah so you need to plug a cable in then all will be well
[21:38] <Qbuo> So do i beed to buy an ethernet cable or not!!!
[21:38] <easy_> no, only 1 data usb
[21:38] <jhutchins> easy_: That's because they can draw more power than a single port can supply.
[21:38] <daftykins> jhutchins: totally wrong i'm afraid.
[21:38] <cryptodan> Qbuo: yes if you do not have one
[21:38] <daftykins> Qbuo: well since the board has nothing wireless, yes :P
[21:38] <daftykins> can't believe these guys managed to tread water on your query for so long =|
[21:38] <easy_> has external power suppley
[21:39] <jhutchins> daftykins: I thought they needed 3.16 or greater, but an ubuntu kernel is not a generic kernel.  Will they work with 14.04 (3.13)?
[21:39] <blackangelpr> ok... :P
[21:39] <Qbuo> That sucks, would expect a little more from  a "gaming" motherboard
[21:39] <daftykins> jhutchins: see my link and detail regarding what the motherboard and adapter is
[21:39] <cryptodan> Qbuo: motherboards dont come with networking cables
[21:39] <daftykins> Qbuo: anyone with half a clue about gaming does not use a wireless network :)
[21:39] <Qbuo> I dont feel like sitting with my router up my ass in the licing room
[21:40] <Qbuo> *living
[21:40] <daftykins> Qbuo: you might want to pay a bit more attention to products you buy in future
[21:40] <jhutchins> Qbuo: Please keep the language civil.
[21:40] <daftykins> well, long cables exist y'know
[21:40] <ShalokShalom>  [22:23] <jhutchins> ShalokShalom: Probably mounted noexec. ?
[21:40] <jhutchins> ShalokShalom: man mount
[21:40] <Qbuo> Yeah, it was a combo deal so ill watch iut next time
[21:40] <jhutchins> Qbuo: Well, read the box.  They usually list the features.
[21:40] <cryptodan> and the gaming term in that is usually a gimmick to get you to pay more for a product
[21:41] <ShalokShalom> [22:24] <cryptodan> "ShalokShalom: using a live session should allow you to get to your drives" not in this case, because the partitions are still "mounted" in hibernate mode
[21:41] <jhutchins> gaming usually wants better performance than wifi offers.
[21:41] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: are you using Windows 8 or 8.1?
[21:41] <ShalokShalom> no
[21:41] <daftykins> easy_: did you run "sudo parted -l" yet? thatd be a good way to see if the disk shows up
[21:41] <ShalokShalom> this is just the same issue in kubuntu
[21:41] <cryptodan> then how can be mounted in hibernate mode?
[21:41] <ShalokShalom> i know what you mean, its exactly that
[21:41] <cryptodan> never heard of such a thing with linux
[21:42] <ShalokShalom> its the first time for me as well
[21:42] <Qbuo> Thanks for the help, will i still need to get 14.10 for t to work?
[21:42] <ShalokShalom> especially in updated LTS version
[21:42] <cryptodan> its either mounted or not
[21:43] <ShalokShalom> this user of the device means, it makes same troubles after the last update
[21:43] <ShalokShalom> idk, if that count as mounted
[21:43] <ShalokShalom> its still in hibernate for sure
[21:43] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: what error messages do you get when you boot it without the live session
[21:43] <ShalokShalom> i can post you the error message of dolphin
[21:43] <ShalokShalom> :)
[21:43] <cryptodan> www.imgur.com it
[21:44] <Qbuo> Jhutchin: will i still need to update to 14.10 after getting an ethernet cable?
[21:44] <easy_> just ran sudo parted -l again and not showing. gives Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised disk label
[21:44] <daftykins> easy_: sr0 is a CD/DVD
[21:44] <easy_> 30g hard drive
[21:44] <daftykins> what?
[21:44] <ShalokShalom> http://pastebin.com/qJHGUNqq
[21:44] <daftykins> 30 grammes? :)
[21:45] <ShalokShalom> ah, i hope pastebin works as well
[21:46] <easy_> 30g hard drive in external usb box
[21:46] <cryptodan> do an fdisk -l /dev/sda1 and pastebin it
[21:46] <ShalokShalom> ok
[21:47] <ShalokShalom> command not found
[21:47] <ShalokShalom> when i try to install it, it says its already installed
[21:47] <cryptodan> it should be
[21:48] <ShalokShalom> fdisk
[21:48] <ShalokShalom> this is ROSA..
[21:48] <ShalokShalom> [live@localhost ~]$ urpmi fdisk Paket util-linux-2.24.2-5-rosa2014.1.x86_64 ist installiert
[21:48] <clockwork_> Can someone help me set up ffmpeg to output audio via rtp?
[21:49] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: then you need to redo your livecd
[21:49] <ShalokShalom> redo ?
[21:49] <cryptodan> yup its broken
[21:49] <ShalokShalom> aha
[21:49] <ShalokShalom> ok
[21:49] <ShalokShalom> all other things work
[21:49] <ShalokShalom> maybe is fdisk not available in this distro in live mode
[21:52] <cryptodan> no it would have to be for troubleshooting
[21:52] <daftykins> ShalokShalom: that isn't ubuntu
[21:52] <easy_> ok, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda only shows the internal drive info, nothin on the usb external
[21:52] <Guest6602> hello
[21:53] <zykotick9> easy_: try "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:53] <daftykins> zykotick9: try reading the statement next time ;)
[21:53] <daftykins> easy_: as in, you see a /dev/sdb ?
[21:53] <Guest6602> downloading ubuntu 14
[21:54] <daftykins> Guest6602: alright well once you're there, the support channel here can answer questions you might have
[21:55] <zykotick9> daftykins: i'm still missing something, but if easy wants to see his usb, using "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" is ONLY going to show sda (most likely internal HD)...
[21:56] <ShalokShalom> i dl and install ubuntu
[21:56] <daftykins> zykotick9: ah my apologies, my festive rapid drinking has had me miss that one!
[21:56] <daftykins> easy_: you are running just "sudo fdisk -l" yes?
[21:56] <ablest1980> hi
[21:56] <zykotick9> daftykins: try reading the statement next time <- :o
[21:57] <daftykins> zykotick9: indeed, indeed... i beg your forgiveness *bows*
[21:57] <zykotick9> ;)
[21:57] <easy_> aggravating lol, internal partitions listed fine, only error was fdisk: unable to seek on /dev/sdb: Invalid argument
[21:57] <daftykins> i'm a little shocked at how many people are spending new years messing with their computers
[21:58] <blackangelpr> bye all happy new year will go to work yeah on new years XD cheers
[21:58] <easy_> lol daftykins
[22:01] <wad> So should I be able to turn of the network manager, add two lines to /etc/network/interfaces ("auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp"), and then "service networking restart", and get connected?
[22:01] <wad> Or is there another step I'm missing?
[22:01] <yvear> how do I set up programs to execute with root permissions? i.e. right now I must do 'kdesudo gvim' but I just want to click gvim once on it's desktop icon (kubuntu)
[22:02] <wad> I'm going to try it. Dropping my network. Back in a few.
[22:02] <yvear> s/it's/its
[22:03] <zykotick9> yvear: what you're asking for, probably isn't the best idea... YMMV
[22:04] <yvear> zykotick9, I know, but can you please tell me how?
[22:05] <earthrocka> hello im having trouble playing dvds with ubuntu 14.04 , was wondering if installed that restricted package i seen in the software manager would cure that, or is there something else i need to download
[22:05] <easy_> thanks for trying to help I'm gonna get off here and shove the drive in another computer then share it on network
[22:06] <zykotick9> yvear: sorry i honestly don't know...
[22:09] <MuffinMedic> is there a way to view process output?
[22:10] <cpt_yossarian> MuffinMedic: how do you mean?
[22:10] <EriC^^> MuffinMedic: which process
[22:10] <MuffinMedic> i shoudl explain
[22:10] <daftykins> MuffinMedic: may i congratulate you on the most amusing nickname of the year
[22:10] <MuffinMedic> i have a few python IRC bots, and when i run them, it shows a bunch of output, but when i close the ssh session and log back in, i want to view the output again
[22:10] <MuffinMedic> thanks daftykins !
[22:11] <cryptodan> MuffinMedic: you can log the data to a log file
[22:11] <MuffinMedic> you mean pipe the output? python3.4 .... > file.log?
[22:11] <cpt_yossarian> MuffinMedic: you should either save your output in a file or pipe it into one and run the bots in some kind of terminal multiplexer (GNU screen or tmux)
[22:12] <cpt_yossarian> ^ Either that kind of redirection or use Python's file I/O, which would be clearer
[22:13] <MuffinMedic> Can I save screen sessions?
[22:13] <earthrocka> hello im having trouble playing dvds with ubuntu 14.04 , was wondering if installed that restricted package i seen in the software manager would cure that, or is there something else i need to download
[22:13] <MuffinMedic> nvm found it. thx
[22:13] <cpt_yossarian> you can have them run in the background
[22:13] <cpt_yossarian> and resume them at will
[22:15] <Australopithecus> I keep getting random crashes here is the log I got from /var/log/kern.log after the computer hard froze pastebin.com/iFjDSwur
[22:15] <Bashing-om> earthrocka: Have you installed " ubuntu-restricted-extras " and " libdvdread4 " ?? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs .
[22:16] <Australopithecus> hardfroze again just now
[22:16] <Australopithecus> :(
[22:16] <Australopithecus> maybe I should try a different distro
[22:17] <earthrocka> Bashing-om: thanks
[22:17] <earthrocka> i was having problems with a part of installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:17] <earthrocka> i couldnt scroll down to click on ok
[22:17] <earthrocka> im gonna try that again though
[22:19] <SchrodingersScat> earthrocka: you can always open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:19] <earthrocka> thats how i did it SchrodingersScat
[22:19] <earthrocka> and something still came up to scroll over that said ok
[22:19] <earthrocka> lol
[22:19] <SchrodingersScat> huh, k
[22:19] <earthrocka> im about to try it again though
[22:20] <Bashing-om> earthrocka: What Desktop Environment aare you using ? Makes a difference as to which 'restricted extra' is to be installed .
[22:20] <earthrocka> unity
[22:20] <earthrocka> just figured out how to click on that ok
[22:20] <earthrocka> lol
[22:20] <earthrocka> hit the tab button
[22:21] <Bashing-om> earthrocka: Best I recall, one has to accept Microsoft's EULA . tab to get OK, and enter to accpet (??) .
[22:21] <earthrocka> yep
[22:21] <earthrocka> tab button :)
[22:21] <earthrocka> i got it lol
[22:21] <earthrocka> thanks
[22:22] <earthrocka> after this ill install the libdvdread4
[22:22] <earthrocka> and see how that treats me
[22:23] <Bashing-om> earthrocka: Yep, then -> Then open a terminal window and execute: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh .
[22:28] <earthrocka> still not playing
[22:28] <earthrocka> gonna see if a restart will help that any
[22:36] <ShalokShalom> ia m back
[22:36] <ShalokShalom> who help me before ? :P
[22:37] <ShalokShalom> hibernate issue
[22:37] <cryptodan> that would have been me
[22:37] <ShalokShalom> ah yes
[22:38] <ShalokShalom> which command please ?
[22:38] <ShalokShalom> fdisk ?
[22:38] <ShalokShalom> i am in kubuntu now
[22:38] <cryptodan> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[22:38] <ShalokShalom> thanks
[22:41] <ShalokShalom> http://pastebin.com/fGs3wSF8
[22:41] <worenga> S_SubZero: afaik
[22:42] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: now can you run a df -kh ?
[22:42] <worenga> happy new year to yall im going out shooting some fireworks now
[22:42] <Church> cryptodan: aren't k & h contradicting?
[22:43] <cryptodan> Church: no
[22:44] <zykotick9> seems to me the -h removed the -k
[22:44] <ShalokShalom> http://pastebin.com/FTstykTq
[22:45] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: can you try mounting the drive again
[22:46] <ShalokShalom> yes
[22:46] <cryptodan> Church and zykotick9 the difference with -h added the -h makes it human readable
[22:46] <cryptodan> http://dpaste.com/3P9TPBF
[22:46] <zykotick9> cryptodan: the -h makes the -k useless, you don't need it.  so "df -h" is the same as "df -hk"
[22:46] <Psk> des francais ?
[22:47] <zykotick9> !fr | Psk
[22:47] <ShalokShalom> http://pastebin.com/zApiK4w9
[22:47] <cryptodan> zykotick9: look at the output which is more user friendly?
[22:47] <yvear> how do I set up gui programs to execute with root permissions? i.e. right now I must do 'kdesudo gvim' but I just want to click gvim once on its desktop icon  I tried making a shell script with these 2 lines:
[22:47] <yvear> #!/bin/sh
[22:47] <yvear> kdesudo gvim
[22:47] <yvear> but it opens only as normal user as if kdesudo isn't used
[22:48] <zykotick9> cryptodan: you don't need the -hk just use -h
[22:48] <Church> cryptodan: -k says "display results in kilobytes". -h "in human readable form". So one OR another :)
[22:48] <cryptodan> again look at my paste
[22:48] <cryptodan> tell me which is better
[22:48] <cryptodan> I prefer df -kh
[22:49] <zykotick9> cryptodan: your paste has the redundant -hk you just need -h
[22:49] <Church> cryptodan: use just -h. k not needed.
[22:49] <cryptodan> look at the difference
[22:49] <cryptodan> wow really
[22:49] <cryptodan> You cannot see the difference
[22:49] <cryptodan> are you blind?
[22:49] <zykotick9> cryptodan: are you?
[22:49] <ShalokShalom> ?
[22:49] <cryptodan> Nope look at my paste
[22:49] <cryptodan> see the freaking the difference
[22:49] <robert__> unity graphics get pixelized after my screen saver kicks in, anything I can do?
[22:50]  * zykotick9 gives up on cryptodan 
[22:50] <cryptodan> good because you are blinded zykotick9
[22:50] <robert__> its a hp EliteBook 8650p
[22:50] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: what happens when you boot the system without the live session?
[22:51] <ShalokShalom> now ?
[22:51] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: yes
[22:51] <ShalokShalom> idk, i geuss busy box again ?
[22:51] <ShalokShalom> try ?
[22:51] <cryptodan> yes try and boot and write down any errors you see
[22:52] <ShalokShalom> yes, thanks
[22:54] <S_SubZero> zykotick9: How can I create an Ubuntu installation USB that uses something other than FAT32?
[22:56] <zykotick9> S_SubZero: did you use netbootin?
[22:56] <zykotick9> S_SubZero: you can dd the ubuntu-images to USB directly
[22:59] <S_SubZero> i can't seem to get unetbootin to run, i did chmod +x on the download but it doesnt do anything
[23:00] <zykotick9> S_SubZero: i'd suggest AGAINST using unetbootin
[23:00] <TheTopBloke> TESTING
[23:00] <ShalokShalom> same story
[23:00] <TheTopBloke> booyah
[23:00] <mbff> Hello! Anyone know a good IRC channel to get help on a resume. I can't decide what to include as a skill
[23:00] <ShalokShalom> busybox
[23:00] <ShalokShalom> type help...
[23:00] <TheTopBloke> I suggest including textedit
[23:00] <ShalokShalom> (initramfs)
[23:01] <xcyclist> Any rvm experts out there?
[23:02] <dae-> HAPPY NEW YEAR !
[23:02] <ShalokShalom> ^^
[23:07] <sqwaw> ugh i hate this shit
[23:07] <sqwaw> it's just a date change people
[23:07] <sqwaw> life goes on the same. nothing "new" about it.
[23:08] <TheTopBloke> it's nice to be able to put bad years behind you
[23:08] <dae-> +1 sqwaw
[23:09] <sqwaw> TheTopBloke: yea i guess that's true 'nuff if you had a bad year
[23:09] <sqwaw> i just had a few bad times, but you let those pass
[23:10] <ShalokShalom> where is my partner ? ^^
[23:10] <ShalokShalom> happy new year :D
[23:10] <TheTopBloke> indeed
[23:12] <xcyclist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9652532/
[23:18] <nmatrix9> Solved my samba share problem,  it was because certain directory had their read permissions removed.
[23:23] <TheTopBloke> what's up with sudo/suoders? Anyone have any good links to best practices?
[23:24] <TimeRider> TheTopBloke http://tube.timerider.co.uk
[23:24] <TimeRider> oops, new years drinked
[23:25] <TheTopBloke> uhh...
[23:28] <WillW> Hey all, I'm trying to set up a network shared folder on an NTFS partition with guest access, using samba. But, when trying to open the folder, it says permission denied. Here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9652569/ and here is smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9652575/
[23:31] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: what busybox error?
[23:32] <ShalokShalom> cryptodan: no error message
[23:32] <ShalokShalom> just:busy box version etc
[23:32] <ShalokShalom> type help for ...
[23:32] <ShalokShalom> and then the promt:
[23:32] <ShalokShalom> (initramfs)
[23:33] <Foxhoundz> Ubuntu
[23:33] <Foxhoundz> why is the weechat in the default ubuntu repo so outdated?
[23:33] <Foxhoundz> Version 1.0 is out and the Ubuntu repo version shows 0.4.2
[23:33] <Foxhoundz> wtf??
[23:34] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: is it like this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/120198/how-to-fix-boot-into-initramfs-prompt-and-mount-cant-read-etc-fstab-no-su
[23:34] <rypervenche> Foxhoundz: Ubuntu is not meant to have the latest versions of packages.
[23:34] <zykotick9> !latest | Foxhoundz
[23:34] <ShalokShalom> no
[23:34] <TheTopBloke> so is ubuntu like the starter linux?
[23:35] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: there has to be more to your error message
[23:35] <Foxhoundz> zykotick9: well there is a difference between being stable and being outdated
[23:35] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: or is it this http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[23:35] <WillW> TheTopBloke: Pretty much, it has a strong community and lots of feature, I recommend starting with ubuntu
[23:35] <Foxhoundz> being 6 major releases behind isn't stable
[23:35] <JWalker95> TheTopBloke: It probably has the best documentation
[23:36] <ShalokShalom> yes, exactly
[23:36] <rypervenche> Foxhoundz: It's not six behind, weechat jumped from 0.4.3. 1.0.0 I believe.
[23:36] <TheTopBloke> I've just noticed there are a lot of features not installed. I'm just using it as a server.
[23:36] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: follow the steps there
[23:36] <ShalokShalom> yes, thanks
[23:36] <ShalokShalom> was this because of hibernate or other reason ?
[23:37] <ShalokShalom> or is this just a bad luck mix ?
[23:37] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: another reason
[23:37] <ShalokShalom> ah, ok
[23:37] <ShalokShalom> so bad mix of 2 issues
[23:37] <WillW> TheTopBloke: yeah, the server has only the features necessary to easily get a server running. What's missing from that?
[23:37] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: more than likely a hard drive failing or a system that was power down without a clean unmount
[23:37] <ShalokShalom> will change the default lid behaviour in my distros from now
[23:38] <TheTopBloke> Yeah I figured that might be the case also. Nothing in particular. Some libaries here and there, stuff like mail, no big deal really.
[23:38] <ShalokShalom> power down without a clean unmount because of sleep ?
[23:39] <ShalokShalom> because the real user of this device say, that the deive sometimes dont go in hibernate, when he close the lid
[23:39] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: yup
[23:39] <WillW> TheTopBloke: I believe email server packages are an option on ubuntu server install, I may be wrong though
[23:39] <ShalokShalom> ah fine
[23:39] <ShalokShalom> thanks
[23:39] <TheTopBloke> no I think you're right.
[23:40] <ShalokShalom> the commands in the tut dont work for this user
[23:40] <TheTopBloke> vi vsftpd.log
[23:40] <TheTopBloke> woops
[23:41] <ShalokShalom> and i have no windows installed
[23:41] <ShalokShalom> so cant follow the tut
[23:41] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: look at the steps below it
[23:41] <Xandhin> puta q pariu em
[23:41] <TheTopBloke> emacs isn't on there either. IS it on the desktop version?
[23:42] <WillW> TheTopBloke: nope, but its in the repo
[23:42] <rypervenche> TheTopBloke: emacs usually isn't installed by default.
[23:43] <ShalokShalom> first one, no output for sudo fdisk -l|grep Linux|grep -Ev 'swap'
[23:43] <ShalokShalom> just dumpe2fs 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)
[23:44] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: you would do this sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | grep superblock
[23:45] <ShalokShalom> other command work
[23:45] <ShalokShalom> i repair about hundret bad superblocks
[23:46] <ShalokShalom> success ^^
[23:46] <kubunto> I am looking to figure out what mics are compatible with linux either usb or bluetooth
[23:46] <ShalokShalom> cryptodan: thanks a lot my friend great help :D
[23:46] <ShalokShalom> this solve it: sudo fsck -b 32768 /dev/sda1
[23:47] <Xandhin> congratz
[23:47] <Xandhin> acess my blog: series-torrent.org
[23:47] <Xandhin> thanks
[23:48] <aarobc> anyone have the annoying issue where when you maximize a window the alignment is off?
[23:48] <cryptodan> ShalokShalom: welcome
[23:50] <furkan_> hi
[23:51] <kubunto> hi furkan_
[23:51] <furkan_> türk yokmu la :D
[23:52] <furkan_> where r u from kubunto
[23:52] <chocolate> furkan_: ah, i remember the first time i use irc
[23:53] <kubunto> furkan_: the states
[23:55] <furkan_> happy new year everybody :))
[23:56] <furkan_> Greetings from turkey
[23:56] <kubunto> furkan_: where in turkey are you
[23:57] <furkan_> ankara
[23:57] <xangua> !ot | furkan_ kubunto
[23:58] <kubunto> xangua: i am looking for support on an ubuntu compatible bluetooth mic
[23:58] <furkan_> #ubottu okey i am really sory
[23:59] <xangua> kubunto: I can use a generic chinese bluetooth headset fine