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ChunkzZhappy new year UK users!00:00
penguin42ChunkzZ: Happy new year ChunkzZ00:03
ChunkzZnow time to hit the UK January sales! lol :)00:06
penguin42hehe they started on boxing day00:07
ChunkzZmeh, I'm lazy. gotta do it online!00:08
penguin42hey I made my 1st sale purchase on the 24th - online00:08
ChunkzZHA00:08
penguin42(the fact they screwed it up, and didn't deliver it until about the 30th when it should have been instore on the 27th is a different matter)00:09
diddledanI guess we're now in the future?\00:23
penguin42give me my flying car!00:23
diddledanhoverboards00:23
diddledanaccording to iron sky: 1. "Doc" and Marty arrive from the past, the Hoverboard becomes a hit among the youth and Jaws 19 is released. 2. The aliens attack the Earth. X-Com is activated to save mankind. 3. The Union Aerospace Corporation is founded, leading to the tragic events that lead to opening a teleport to Hell. 4. Arnold Schwarzenegger fights Satan and WINS! 5. The Small War - during which most of mankind's nuclear weapons are being used00:24
diddledan - will be fought.00:25
penguin42diddledan: Don't worry, next year we'll have to worry about the NEXUS-6 models00:26
diddledanoh god00:28
=== zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi
mappjesus christ05:30
mappgojnna be one of those nights eh05:30
daftykinswhich one?05:30
mappwell who knows05:31
mappthe usual05:31
mapptodays a special day for me btw05:32
mappi have a drink problem sure05:32
mappbut my dad and sister dont05:32
mappthey went to the crematoroium:(05:32
mappto put flowes on my mums plaque05:33
daftykinsah right, go ok?05:36
mappim always alrigjht:)05:38
daftykinsa friend had to get a new headstone for his parents grave a bit ago as it'd been trashed by kids or something05:38
daftykins:/05:38
mappyea see it suoer sucks05:39
mappi figure i be done by the time im not ok05:40
mappdont get onn with my dad or my sister05:41
daftykinsno? not even for the remote laptop fixing? :D05:42
daftykins17 minutes to new year #305:43
mappna05:43
mappthats life05:43
mappwe dont get on05:43
daftykinsthere's new year for central time 'muricans as well now06:01
daftykinsso that's 3 new years i've seen ;)06:01
brobostigongood morning boys and girls.10:32
MartijnVdS\o10:46
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS10:48
bashrcg'day11:17
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
knightwisehey everyone ! :)13:53
penguin42hey13:54
knightwisehey penguin42 how are you dude13:55
penguin42good good, HNY13:55
brobostigonhi knightwise13:56
knightwiseSame to you dude :)13:56
knightwisehey brobostigon ! hny13:56
knightwisehmmm... trying to get pimusicbox to work13:59
knightwiseCant find the .img file on the site of the developer so i'm going over to the github site.14:00
knightwisebut I have no idea where to get the .img file14:00
knightwiseah .. wait. I think i found it.14:01
knightwisethere is a "make image script"14:01
knightwisecle14:03
knightwisesorry , wrong window14:03
brobostigon:)14:06
* penguin42 wonders what the electricity usage of appliances is between cold and warm weather14:10
knightwisepenguin42: higher i presume14:10
penguin42knightwise: Yes, I'm just looking at the graphs on my electricity suppliers site; they say I'm using about another 10kWh/day in December compared with July and it's not obvious where from since I use gas for heating; I don't think the lighting adds upto more than a kW/h or 214:12
knightwiseunlikely ... but heating and light consumption does go up in the winter14:14
knightwisealso , people spend more time indoors , thus activate more appliances14:14
penguin42right, but my heating won't make much of a change to my electricity bill14:14
knightwisedepends what kind of heating you have ? Gas ?  Petrol ? Electric ?14:14
penguin42gas14:15
knightwiseshould not make a big difference then14:17
knightwiseother appliances use the same ammount of power no matter the outside temperature (i presume)14:17
penguin42well, I was wondering about things like washing machines and dishwashers; they may need more power if the input water is colder and if the room is a bit colder14:19
penguin42it might also be that we tend to have more hot meals in the winter and hence the electric oven is on more, but it seems hmm14:21
knightwiseyeah , but its not THAT big of a difference , its not like your machine is in the garden ?14:22
knightwiseTHere , just ordered a usb gamecontroller for my raspberry pi14:26
penguin42right, although the  water input temperature maybe from the mains14:26
knightwisethat is true , so that temp might be a bit lower indeed14:27
foobarrysurrey version of the run, hide, tell poster http://i.imgur.com/DS0fnJz.jpg15:31
zmoylan-pii think putting up poster to tell people what to do in those situations is allowing the shallow end of gene pool to hang around15:33
mappyay20:04
mappspurs5-320:04
mapp:)20:05
daftykinsdid anyone find a solution as to what's up with get_iplayer at the moment?20:20
czajkowskiI am a tad baffled. clean install. installed flash from adobe site and done updates but yet on some sites it keeps saying I need to install flash, not sure if it's lack of flash or chromium being a pain20:36
zmoylan-pii've been getting that a few times in last 2 weeks or so20:37
czajkowskialso on some drop down boxes on chromium they are not visable, no issues on FF #I just don't like FF as my main browser20:38
zmoylan-pii use qupzilla, midori as browsers20:38
popeyyo21:03
ujjainHappy New year popey and #ubuntu-uk!21:08
ujjainI have a question about the English language, I seem unable to master it. ¨Happy New Year!! My new year's resolution is adding some more certifications after RHCE. What is a more important certification for a DevOps Engineer? Puppet Professional or MySQL Database Administrator?¨ does this obviously show that I am not a native Englander?21:09
ali1234u wot m8?21:09
ujjainDoes my English in that phrase betray my English often doesn´t sound very natural?21:11
foobarrylooks fine21:12
foobarryi would probably write21:13
popeyI would have abbreviated "What is a more" to "What's a more" but that's all.21:13
ujjainI think Google translate is better than me at sounding natural.21:13
ujjainHappy New Year. My New Year's resolution is to achieve some additional certifications after passing RHCE. What is a more important certification for a DevOps Engineer? Puppet Professional or MySQL Database Administrator?21:13
ujjainthat sounds pretty good translated from Dutch compared to mine.21:13
ujjainWhat´s < right.21:13
foobarryMy new year's resolution is to get some more certs in addition to the RHCE. What would be a more important cert for a devops engineer to get? Puppet Pro or Mysql DB Admin?21:14
foobarrysounds very formal, unless you want to be formal21:14
foobarrysorry, quite formal, not very format21:15
zmoylan-piit would depend if it were in written communication or verbal communication a fair bit21:15
foobarrydoes anyone have a leapfrog reader for their kids?21:16
foobarryopinions?21:17
popeynope21:20
popeynever heard of them21:21
ali1234why is my fail2ban failing2ban attackers?21:21
ali12342014-12-28 06:25:04,457 fail2ban.server : INFO   Changed logging target to /var/log/fail2ban.log for Fail2ban v0.8.1121:22
ali1234is my entire fail2ban.log21:22
zmoylan-piisn't the problem with fail2ban if the attacker uses multiple ip addresses?21:23
ali1234the attackers aren't using multiple IPs21:23
penguin42ali1234: It works by parsing various log files doesn't it - is it parsing the right ones?21:23
ali1234one IP tried to brute force ssh root password for three days21:23
ali1234yes it is parsing auth.log21:23
penguin42mismatch in format?21:24
ali1234Dec 28 07:25:38 headfuzz sshd[12626]: Failed password for root from 60.173.12.98 port 22759 ssh221:24
ali1234an example failed login, there's like 300000000000 of them21:24
ali1234844 to be specific21:25
ali12348 per minute21:25
ali1234i am using the filters that come with the ubuntu package21:26
ali1234ah there's a tool to check21:27
ali1234according to fail2ban-regex there's 282000 matching lines in auth.log however nobody ever got banned21:31
penguin42some type of timeout thing; because those are old?21:33
ali1234every time an IP is banned it should show up in the log21:33
ali1234three retries in 10 minutes should ban by default21:34
penguin42because that machine has been owned already and it's disabled somehow?21:34
ali1234seems unlikely, why would you turn it off after you have control?21:37
foobarryits not checking the right log?21:37
foobarryor its using iptables instead of ufw or firewalld?21:37
foobarryfail2ban notifies if its baned someone though i seem to remember21:37
ali1234read the scrollback :)21:38
foobarryadmittedly i use it on centos and wroks all the time21:40
ali1234i see others reporting the same thing21:45
ali1234i'm going to bug report this21:46
penguin42that's a pretty nasty bug - can you tell us the bug number when you do21:52
ujjainthanks foobarry, that helped a lot. I hope some day to speak English like the British. Although most of my friends in London are foreigners too.21:52
zmoylan-piso you want to have the accent of the villan in a hollywood movie... :-)21:54
ali1234someone want to try attacking my server to see if it bans you?21:56
* zmoylan-pi puts down the axe...21:57
ujjainhaha zmoylan-pi, if he´s british yes.21:57
ali1234penguin42: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fail2ban/+bug/140699621:59
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1406996 in fail2ban (Ubuntu) "fail2ban fails to ban" [Undecided,New]21:59
penguin42ali1234: Did you see the thing about polling versus other settings?22:02
ali1234yes, that's one of the other reports i linked22:03
penguin42ali1234: Yeh, did their fix work for you? Also the action  setting?22:03
ali1234i didn't see anything about an action setting22:03
ali1234i didn't try anything to fix it yet22:04
penguin42ali1234: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20720129/fail2ban-not-banning-ssh-bruteforce-but-regex-works/20871940#2087194022:04
ali1234i can't test anyway since i am not currently being attacked and i don't particularly want to ban myself22:04
penguin42ali1234: Oh I can help you later if you want, about to have a shower though22:04
foobarrysome great android apps for free on amazon right now22:05
foobarryjust collected about 1022:05
foobarryincluding monopoly22:05
ali1234the backend polling thing sounds like exceeding inotify watches22:07
ali1234https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/issues/44 or perhaps as indicated here the watch stops when the log gets rotated22:08
ali1234confirmed that's the bug ^22:29
daftykinsfoobarry: didn't you mention getting get-iplayer to work again the other day? it seems to fail to update for me, says there's 0 or 1 program22:44
penguin42ali1234: Ah well yeh, inotify on a different file to the one the changes are going on in won't work22:50
ali1234it's actually not logrotate at all22:50
penguin42it's not?22:50
ali1234no22:50
ali1234i don't know what the problem. since i've now restarted the server it is getting the events again22:51
=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away
penguin42ali1234: That would be consistent with something like a logrotate/inotify problem if it was looking at the old file23:01
ali1234yes it would, but after more testing the repro steps i posted do not work, so it's more complex than just logrotate23:02
ali1234perhaps after many logrotates it runs out of inotify handles or something23:02
penguin42ali1234: It shouldn't be  a running-out-of-handles type thing since it should only ever be looking at the latest version of any log, so the number of logs it watches shouldn't go up23:04
ali1234could be a leak though23:04
ali1234if it doesn't close the old ones23:04
penguin42yeh, it seems unlikely to die that easily though23:07

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