[00:00] <ChunkzZ> happy new year UK users!
[00:03] <penguin42> ChunkzZ: Happy new year ChunkzZ
[00:06] <ChunkzZ> now time to hit the UK January sales! lol :)
[00:07] <penguin42> hehe they started on boxing day
[00:08] <ChunkzZ> meh, I'm lazy. gotta do it online!
[00:08] <penguin42> hey I made my 1st sale purchase on the 24th - online
[00:08] <ChunkzZ> HA
[00:09] <penguin42> (the fact they screwed it up, and didn't deliver it until about the 30th when it should have been instore on the 27th is a different matter)
[00:23] <diddledan> I guess we're now in the future?\
[00:23] <penguin42> give me my flying car!
[00:23] <diddledan> hoverboards
[00:24] <diddledan> according to iron sky: 1. "Doc" and Marty arrive from the past, the Hoverboard becomes a hit among the youth and Jaws 19 is released. 2. The aliens attack the Earth. X-Com is activated to save mankind. 3. The Union Aerospace Corporation is founded, leading to the tragic events that lead to opening a teleport to Hell. 4. Arnold Schwarzenegger fights Satan and WINS! 5. The Small War - during which most of mankind's nuclear weapons are being used
[00:25] <diddledan>  - will be fought.
[00:26] <penguin42> diddledan: Don't worry, next year we'll have to worry about the NEXUS-6 models
[00:28] <diddledan> oh god
[05:30] <mapp> jesus christ
[05:30] <mapp> gojnna be one of those nights eh
[05:30] <daftykins> which one?
[05:31] <mapp> well who knows
[05:31] <mapp> the usual
[05:32] <mapp> todays a special day for me btw
[05:32] <mapp> i have a drink problem sure
[05:32] <mapp> but my dad and sister dont
[05:32] <mapp> they went to the crematoroium:(
[05:33] <mapp> to put flowes on my mums plaque
[05:36] <daftykins> ah right, go ok?
[05:38] <mapp> im always alrigjht:)
[05:38] <daftykins> a friend had to get a new headstone for his parents grave a bit ago as it'd been trashed by kids or something
[05:38] <daftykins> :/
[05:39] <mapp> yea see it suoer sucks
[05:40] <mapp> i figure i be done by the time im not ok
[05:41] <mapp> dont get onn with my dad or my sister
[05:42] <daftykins> no? not even for the remote laptop fixing? :D
[05:43] <daftykins> 17 minutes to new year #3
[05:43] <mapp> na
[05:43] <mapp> thats life
[05:43] <mapp> we dont get on
[06:01] <daftykins> there's new year for central time 'muricans as well now
[06:01] <daftykins> so that's 3 new years i've seen ;)
[10:32] <brobostigon> good morning boys and girls.
[10:46] <MartijnVdS> \o
[10:48] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[11:17] <bashrc> g'day
[13:53] <knightwise> hey everyone ! :)
[13:54] <penguin42> hey
[13:55] <knightwise> hey penguin42 how are you dude
[13:55] <penguin42> good good, HNY
[13:56] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[13:56] <knightwise> Same to you dude :)
[13:56] <knightwise> hey brobostigon ! hny
[13:59] <knightwise> hmmm... trying to get pimusicbox to work
[14:00] <knightwise> Cant find the .img file on the site of the developer so i'm going over to the github site.
[14:00] <knightwise> but I have no idea where to get the .img file
[14:01] <knightwise> ah .. wait. I think i found it.
[14:01] <knightwise> there is a "make image script"
[14:03] <knightwise> cle
[14:03] <knightwise> sorry , wrong window
[14:06] <brobostigon> :)
[14:10]  * penguin42 wonders what the electricity usage of appliances is between cold and warm weather
[14:10] <knightwise> penguin42: higher i presume
[14:12] <penguin42> knightwise: Yes, I'm just looking at the graphs on my electricity suppliers site; they say I'm using about another 10kWh/day in December compared with July and it's not obvious where from since I use gas for heating; I don't think the lighting adds upto more than a kW/h or 2
[14:14] <knightwise> unlikely ... but heating and light consumption does go up in the winter
[14:14] <knightwise> also , people spend more time indoors , thus activate more appliances
[14:14] <penguin42> right, but my heating won't make much of a change to my electricity bill
[14:14] <knightwise> depends what kind of heating you have ? Gas ?  Petrol ? Electric ?
[14:15] <penguin42> gas
[14:17] <knightwise> should not make a big difference then
[14:17] <knightwise> other appliances use the same ammount of power no matter the outside temperature (i presume)
[14:19] <penguin42> well, I was wondering about things like washing machines and dishwashers; they may need more power if the input water is colder and if the room is a bit colder
[14:21] <penguin42> it might also be that we tend to have more hot meals in the winter and hence the electric oven is on more, but it seems hmm
[14:22] <knightwise> yeah , but its not THAT big of a difference , its not like your machine is in the garden ?
[14:26] <knightwise> THere , just ordered a usb gamecontroller for my raspberry pi
[14:26] <penguin42> right, although the  water input temperature maybe from the mains
[14:27] <knightwise> that is true , so that temp might be a bit lower indeed
[15:31] <foobarry> surrey version of the run, hide, tell poster http://i.imgur.com/DS0fnJz.jpg
[15:33] <zmoylan-pi> i think putting up poster to tell people what to do in those situations is allowing the shallow end of gene pool to hang around
[20:04] <mapp> yay
[20:04] <mapp> spurs5-3
[20:05] <mapp> :)
[20:20] <daftykins> did anyone find a solution as to what's up with get_iplayer at the moment?
[20:36] <czajkowski> I am a tad baffled. clean install. installed flash from adobe site and done updates but yet on some sites it keeps saying I need to install flash, not sure if it's lack of flash or chromium being a pain
[20:37] <zmoylan-pi> i've been getting that a few times in last 2 weeks or so
[20:38] <czajkowski> also on some drop down boxes on chromium they are not visable, no issues on FF #I just don't like FF as my main browser
[20:38] <zmoylan-pi> i use qupzilla, midori as browsers
[21:03] <popey> yo
[21:08] <ujjain> Happy New year popey and #ubuntu-uk!
[21:09] <ujjain> I have a question about the English language, I seem unable to master it. ¨Happy New Year!! My new year's resolution is adding some more certifications after RHCE. What is a more important certification for a DevOps Engineer? Puppet Professional or MySQL Database Administrator?¨ does this obviously show that I am not a native Englander?
[21:09] <ali1234> u wot m8?
[21:11] <ujjain> Does my English in that phrase betray my English often doesn´t sound very natural?
[21:12] <foobarry> looks fine
[21:13] <foobarry> i would probably write
[21:13] <popey> I would have abbreviated "What is a more" to "What's a more" but that's all.
[21:13] <ujjain> I think Google translate is better than me at sounding natural.
[21:13] <ujjain> Happy New Year. My New Year's resolution is to achieve some additional certifications after passing RHCE. What is a more important certification for a DevOps Engineer? Puppet Professional or MySQL Database Administrator?
[21:13] <ujjain> that sounds pretty good translated from Dutch compared to mine.
[21:13] <ujjain> What´s < right.
[21:14] <foobarry> My new year's resolution is to get some more certs in addition to the RHCE. What would be a more important cert for a devops engineer to get? Puppet Pro or Mysql DB Admin?
[21:14] <foobarry> sounds very formal, unless you want to be formal
[21:15] <foobarry> sorry, quite formal, not very format
[21:15] <zmoylan-pi> it would depend if it were in written communication or verbal communication a fair bit
[21:16] <foobarry> does anyone have a leapfrog reader for their kids?
[21:17] <foobarry> opinions?
[21:20] <popey> nope
[21:21] <popey> never heard of them
[21:21] <ali1234> why is my fail2ban failing2ban attackers?
[21:22] <ali1234> 2014-12-28 06:25:04,457 fail2ban.server : INFO   Changed logging target to /var/log/fail2ban.log for Fail2ban v0.8.11
[21:22] <ali1234> is my entire fail2ban.log
[21:23] <zmoylan-pi> isn't the problem with fail2ban if the attacker uses multiple ip addresses?
[21:23] <ali1234> the attackers aren't using multiple IPs
[21:23] <penguin42> ali1234: It works by parsing various log files doesn't it - is it parsing the right ones?
[21:23] <ali1234> one IP tried to brute force ssh root password for three days
[21:23] <ali1234> yes it is parsing auth.log
[21:24] <penguin42> mismatch in format?
[21:24] <ali1234> Dec 28 07:25:38 headfuzz sshd[12626]: Failed password for root from 60.173.12.98 port 22759 ssh2
[21:24] <ali1234> an example failed login, there's like 300000000000 of them
[21:25] <ali1234> 844 to be specific
[21:25] <ali1234> 8 per minute
[21:26] <ali1234> i am using the filters that come with the ubuntu package
[21:27] <ali1234> ah there's a tool to check
[21:31] <ali1234> according to fail2ban-regex there's 282000 matching lines in auth.log however nobody ever got banned
[21:33] <penguin42> some type of timeout thing; because those are old?
[21:33] <ali1234> every time an IP is banned it should show up in the log
[21:34] <ali1234> three retries in 10 minutes should ban by default
[21:34] <penguin42> because that machine has been owned already and it's disabled somehow?
[21:37] <ali1234> seems unlikely, why would you turn it off after you have control?
[21:37] <foobarry> its not checking the right log?
[21:37] <foobarry> or its using iptables instead of ufw or firewalld?
[21:37] <foobarry> fail2ban notifies if its baned someone though i seem to remember
[21:38] <ali1234> read the scrollback :)
[21:40] <foobarry> admittedly i use it on centos and wroks all the time
[21:45] <ali1234> i see others reporting the same thing
[21:46] <ali1234> i'm going to bug report this
[21:52] <penguin42> that's a pretty nasty bug - can you tell us the bug number when you do
[21:52] <ujjain> thanks foobarry, that helped a lot. I hope some day to speak English like the British. Although most of my friends in London are foreigners too.
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> so you want to have the accent of the villan in a hollywood movie... :-)
[21:56] <ali1234> someone want to try attacking my server to see if it bans you?
[21:57]  * zmoylan-pi puts down the axe...
[21:57] <ujjain> haha zmoylan-pi, if he´s british yes.
[21:59] <ali1234> penguin42: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fail2ban/+bug/1406996
[22:02] <penguin42> ali1234: Did you see the thing about polling versus other settings?
[22:03] <ali1234> yes, that's one of the other reports i linked
[22:03] <penguin42> ali1234: Yeh, did their fix work for you? Also the action  setting?
[22:03] <ali1234> i didn't see anything about an action setting
[22:04] <ali1234> i didn't try anything to fix it yet
[22:04] <penguin42> ali1234: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20720129/fail2ban-not-banning-ssh-bruteforce-but-regex-works/20871940#20871940
[22:04] <ali1234> i can't test anyway since i am not currently being attacked and i don't particularly want to ban myself
[22:04] <penguin42> ali1234: Oh I can help you later if you want, about to have a shower though
[22:05] <foobarry> some great android apps for free on amazon right now
[22:05] <foobarry> just collected about 10
[22:05] <foobarry> including monopoly
[22:07] <ali1234> the backend polling thing sounds like exceeding inotify watches
[22:08] <ali1234> https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/issues/44 or perhaps as indicated here the watch stops when the log gets rotated
[22:29] <ali1234> confirmed that's the bug ^
[22:44] <daftykins> foobarry: didn't you mention getting get-iplayer to work again the other day? it seems to fail to update for me, says there's 0 or 1 program
[22:50] <penguin42> ali1234: Ah well yeh, inotify on a different file to the one the changes are going on in won't work
[22:50] <ali1234> it's actually not logrotate at all
[22:50] <penguin42> it's not?
[22:50] <ali1234> no
[22:51] <ali1234> i don't know what the problem. since i've now restarted the server it is getting the events again
[23:01] <penguin42> ali1234: That would be consistent with something like a logrotate/inotify problem if it was looking at the old file
[23:02] <ali1234> yes it would, but after more testing the repro steps i posted do not work, so it's more complex than just logrotate
[23:02] <ali1234> perhaps after many logrotates it runs out of inotify handles or something
[23:04] <penguin42> ali1234: It shouldn't be  a running-out-of-handles type thing since it should only ever be looking at the latest version of any log, so the number of logs it watches shouldn't go up
[23:04] <ali1234> could be a leak though
[23:04] <ali1234> if it doesn't close the old ones
[23:07] <penguin42> yeh, it seems unlikely to die that easily though