| theblazehen | Hi Kilos | 05:16 |
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| Kilos | hi theblazehen and others | 05:17 |
| Kilos | happy new years to you all | 05:17 |
| theblazehen | Same to you Kilos | 05:17 |
| Kilos | theblazehen: only drawback i see with the ssd is because of its size one cant do data recoveries from large drives | 06:11 |
| Kilos | otherwise its all go | 06:15 |
| Kilos | hi bduk en bduk1 | 06:15 |
| Kilos | alles wat mal is vir julle | 06:16 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: get a bigger SSD ;) | 06:49 |
| theblazehen | up to 3TB | 06:49 |
| Kilos | rofl | 06:49 |
| theblazehen | They're expensive enough, that if you have to ask for the price, then it's too much | 06:50 |
| Kilos | im not rockafella im the other fella | 06:50 |
| theblazehen | lol | 06:50 |
| theblazehen | hi AndChat|99281 | 06:50 |
| Kilos | haha its barry on his tablet | 06:55 |
| theblazehen | ah | 06:57 |
| Kilos | but tablet got same bad connection as his pc there where he is | 06:58 |
| theblazehen | ah | 06:58 |
| bduk1 | Morning everyone, hope you all have a real good year | 07:11 |
| Kilos | you too bduk1 | 07:18 |
| Kilos | i go to rustenburg now. see you all this evening | 07:19 |
| Kilos | Maaz: watch them | 07:19 |
| Maaz | OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you | 07:19 |
| magespawn | good afternoon | 12:05 |
| bushtech | good afternoon magespawn | 12:11 |
| magespawn | how has the new year been so far? | 12:14 |
| bushtech | hanging in there | 12:15 |
| magespawn | yup i think i will be taking a nap ina little bit | 12:15 |
| bushtech | heh heh | 12:16 |
| samkelo | greetings | 12:21 |
| magespawn | network still up to old year tricks | 12:24 |
| bushtech | dont put a huawei router in there unless you're feeling really adventurous | 12:28 |
| magespawn | agg no this was just cell-c | 12:40 |
| magespawn | i have huawei adsl router that i have never been able to get working properly | 12:41 |
| bushtech | Oh Ah, the eternal problem | 12:41 |
| bushtech | my huawei is the first router I have come across that cant dish out fixed IP addresses to it's attached computers | 12:43 |
| bushtech | grrrr | 12:43 |
| magespawn | they do funny things | 12:43 |
| bushtech | the function does not exist | 12:43 |
| bushtech | I even asked huawei | 12:44 |
| inetpro | good evening | 16:15 |
| inetpro | bushtech: can't you set static IP addresses on the computers themselves? | 16:15 |
| bushtech | inetpro, yes thats what I had to do but even then you can only see the attached computers by their mac addresses | 16:22 |
| inetpro | see the attached computers from what point of view? | 16:23 |
| bushtech | on the router | 16:23 |
| bushtech | stupid router | 16:24 |
| inetpro | what router is this? | 16:24 |
| bushtech | B583, bought it because it was the only one I could find at short notice that has got an antenna out for a yagi | 16:26 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 16:29 |
| * inetpro has the B593s-601 | 16:30 | |
| bushtech | hope yours can do it? | 16:30 |
| inetpro | mine has the option to create a Bundled Address List which seems to be what you want | 16:31 |
| ambo_ | inetpro: I'm about to buy one of those - does it treat you well? | 16:32 |
| bushtech | can you tell me where it is in its webpage? | 16:32 |
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| inetpro | ambo: mine is still fairly new so I have not explored all the options, so far am quite happy | 16:33 |
| inetpro | only thing I would have expected in a new router like this is more options to limit bandwidth per device | 16:34 |
| bushtech | I revved Huawei about it so hopefully it helped | 16:34 |
| inetpro | perhaps better to teach the kids how to use bandwidth sparingly in the long run | 16:37 |
| bushtech | good luck:) | 16:38 |
| inetpro | nice thing is that the router has Wi-Fi Multi-SSID with up to four different access channels | 16:41 |
| inetpro | with this enabled I can connect different devices to different channels and effectively see the utilisation stats per channel | 16:43 |
| ambo | access channels? | 16:43 |
| inetpro | wifi access points | 16:43 |
| inetpro | effectively up to four different wifi networks | 16:44 |
| inetpro | unfortunately all in the same IP address range, but in my case that is all fine | 16:45 |
| ambo | have you tried the VoIP thing? | 16:46 |
| inetpro | not yet | 16:47 |
| inetpro | ahh... by forcing fixed IP addresses and with IP filtering I can perhaps limit specific devices to access only specific addresses if I really have to go that route | 16:56 |
| Kilos | guten abend you herren okes | 17:02 |
| ambo | inetpro: which network are you using that router on? | 17:04 |
| Kilos | hi my magespawn | 17:04 |
| Kilos | and ambo and inetpro | 17:04 |
| Kilos | oh and the fly | 17:05 |
| Kilos | Maaz: did you watch them? | 17:07 |
| Maaz | Yeah Kilos They kinda behaved themselves | 17:07 |
| Kilos | yay | 17:07 |
| Kilos | Maaz: ty | 17:07 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 17:07 |
| Kilos | Maaz: botsnack | 17:07 |
| Maaz | YAY someone cares about me too! | 17:08 |
| Kilos | hello kbmonkey hows you? | 17:25 |
| Kilos | you better say something, no one else is talking to me | 17:25 |
| Kilos | aw he gone afk again | 17:26 |
| bushtech | Kilos, jys die hele dag weg skaars 'n halfuur terug en nou moan jy | 17:28 |
| Kilos | hahaha naand oompie | 17:29 |
| bushtech | voorspoed vir die nuwe jaar | 17:31 |
| bushtech | jy moet net werk aan die attitude:) | 17:31 |
| Kilos | selle daar, wat is foud met my attitude? | 17:32 |
| Kilos | ek het vandag baie swaar gebry | 17:33 |
| Kilos | het probeer n i7 laptop boot van my pc-repair flash en kon nie die ding stel om te boot van usb nie | 17:34 |
| bushtech | die gemoanery | 17:34 |
| Kilos | man dis nie moan nie dis net ekke | 17:34 |
| bushtech | o ok dis anders | 17:34 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 17:35 |
| bushtech | kon jy in die bios inkom? | 17:35 |
| Kilos | ja | 17:35 |
| inetpro | ambo: am using Telkom Mobile 10GB + 10GB | 17:36 |
| inetpro | ambo: or what do you mean what network? | 17:36 |
| ambo | yeah - I meant mobile operator ;-) | 17:36 |
| Kilos | het probeer dit maak om usb hdd en key en n ander opsie maar dit wys die usb opsies as not relevant | 17:36 |
| Kilos | grrr | 17:36 |
| ambo | do you know if that unit works on MTN and Vodacom? | 17:36 |
| inetpro | wb Kilos | 17:36 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro | 17:37 |
| inetpro | ambo: it should work | 17:37 |
| ambo | they all run their LTE networks in different frequency bands so it can cause compatibility issues | 17:37 |
| inetpro | een CellC said I should just get a router from Telkom when I asked whether they have a wifi-router the other day | 17:38 |
| inetpro | even CellC* | 17:38 |
| bushtech | Kilos, Ek het dit al gehad dat ek eers iets anders in die bios moet stel, reboot en dan die boot order stel | 17:39 |
| inetpro | ambo: why, is VC or MTN cheaper these days? | 17:39 |
| inetpro | or you don't have TM coverage? | 17:39 |
| Kilos | aha ek sal probeer dankie bushtech | 17:39 |
| ambo | lol inetpro - no I just have existing SIMs on a Vodacom contract | 17:40 |
| Kilos | so eers stell om van dvd te boot en na die boot dit dan stel na usb? | 17:40 |
| bushtech | nee dit was iets andersop 'n andeer bladsy in die bios | 17:41 |
| Kilos | o | 17:41 |
| bushtech | as ek 'n gap kry sal ek daai computer reboot en kyk wat dit was | 17:42 |
| Kilos | dankie | 17:42 |
| Kilos | ek vou hier kom groet maar nie van win7 nie | 17:43 |
| Kilos | wou | 17:43 |
| inetpro | ambo: apparently this one supports FDD 1800/2600MHz & TDD 2300MHz | 17:50 |
| inetpro | so looks like VC and MTN should be fine | 17:50 |
| inetpro | not sure about CellC | 17:50 |
| inetpro | CellC uses 2100 FDD according to wikipedia | 17:52 |
| inetpro | VC and MTN use 1800 FDD | 17:52 |
| inetpro | and TM uses 2300MHz TDD | 17:53 |
| Kilos | whats the FDD and TDD inetpro ? | 17:53 |
| ambo | Frequency Division Duplexing vs Time Division Duplexing | 17:54 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 17:54 |
| Kilos | ty | 17:54 |
| Kilos | is one better than the other? | 17:54 |
| ambo | FDD uses two frequencies for send & receive | 17:55 |
| Kilos | ah i get it now | 17:55 |
| ambo | TDD shares the same frequency but each end sends in different time slots | 17:55 |
| Kilos | TDD splits send/receive on same frequency | 17:56 |
| Kilos | ah | 17:56 |
| Kilos | i type too slow | 17:56 |
| ambo | which is better... that's an endless debate ;-) | 17:56 |
| Kilos | just thinking about it ,FDD should be quicker because you can send receive simultaneously | 18:03 |
| Kilos | something they do must work with TDD because my tm modem flies | 18:04 |
| Kilos | but then again too many variables | 18:05 |
| ambo | there isn't any noticable difference in speeds | 18:06 |
| ambo | the TDD switches so fast that you don't notice a slowness | 18:06 |
| Kilos | i mean variables when trying to compare them because the net isnt stable anyway 1 minute from the next | 18:08 |
| Kilos | you would need 2 same pcs and download from same place at exactly the same time i think | 18:10 |
| ambo | to compare FDD and TDD ? | 18:10 |
| Kilos | ya | 18:10 |
| magespawn | good evening | 18:15 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 18:15 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:15 |
| magespawn | interesting reading about TDD and FDD | 18:15 |
| Kilos | yeah i should be able to understand it i thinks | 18:16 |
| Kilos | its basically same as radio | 18:16 |
| Kilos | just much higher frequency | 18:17 |
| Kilos | inetpro: you have a d-link router? | 18:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 18:19 |
| magespawn | indeed, same as wifi, all are using radio frequencies | 18:19 |
| Kilos | oh | 18:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: we were talking about lte frequency bands | 18:19 |
| Kilos | ian has one that doesnt work on 3g anymore, but i think i forgot to bring it back today | 18:20 |
| Kilos | was a very long day for me with no ubuntu | 18:21 |
| magespawn | http://electronicdesign.com/communications/what-s-difference-between-fdd-and-tdd | 18:22 |
| magespawn | those can very trying days | 18:22 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:22 |
| magespawn | be^ | 18:22 |
| Kilos | i was itching to come home but he had a meeting at 4pm | 18:22 |
| Kilos | the bakkie water pipe started leaking so we did the travel some, stop fill water bit | 18:23 |
| magespawn | ouch | 18:33 |
| Kilos | ya . but ill fix it tomorrow | 18:34 |
| Kilos | didntr take tools | 18:34 |
| magespawn | duct tape is an amazing product | 18:34 |
| magespawn | ahh they also help | 18:34 |
| Kilos | no duct tape either | 18:34 |
| Kilos | loose like on of those wire clamp things has cut through th rubber pipe | 18:35 |
| magespawn | sudo aptitude install tools | 18:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:35 |
| bushtech | duct tape is a complete toolbox | 18:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:36 |
| magespawn | that usually happens when the pipe expands too much because of age | 18:36 |
| bushtech | who put the clamp on? | 18:36 |
| magespawn | duct tape, cable ties and steel/super glue | 18:36 |
| Kilos | i think i did about a year ago | 18:37 |
| magespawn | fix almost anything | 18:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:37 |
| bushtech | Ah. I was going to suggest go and kick him in the nuts but that;s going to be difficult | 18:38 |
| Kilos | rofl | 18:38 |
| magespawn | hah | 18:42 |
| magespawn | Kilos: what was that monitor they were telling you to install the other day? | 19:11 |
| Kilos | monitor for what magespawn | 19:12 |
| Kilos | you mean munin | 19:12 |
| Kilos | is that a monitor | 19:12 |
| Kilos | very clever tool that | 19:12 |
| magespawn | thats it ty | 19:13 |
| Kilos | shows my cpu hardly working and the sata drive is whats making things slow | 19:13 |
| Kilos | and you see what is is doing by running /var/cache/munin/www/index.html in a browser | 19:14 |
| Kilos | from what i read it should be able to monitor a whole network | 19:15 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 19:17 |
| Kilos | magespawn: | 19:21 |
| Kilos | if you can read yeasterdays logs before 22.40 you will get the direct commands to see the results in the graphs | 19:22 |
| Kilos | 3 links from graeme | 19:23 |
| Kilos | i can never find where to read lost further than i can scroll back so you can give them to me when you find them | 19:24 |
| Kilos | please | 19:24 |
| Kilos | s/lost/logs | 19:25 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 19:25 |
| Kilos | we skinnering about you | 19:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ag shame | 19:29 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you have nothing better to do? :) | 19:29 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:31 |
| Kilos | no man we were calling you to come give those browser link to see the munin outputs | 19:32 |
| Kilos | i can scroll back that far | 19:32 |
| Kilos | cant | 19:32 |
| Kilos | hi samkelo | 19:47 |
| samkelo | i Kilos | 19:47 |
| Kilos | wbb checking something | 20:01 |
| magespawn | Kilos: i sure there are help and man pages | 20:07 |
| Kilos | the man page says min | 20:08 |
| magespawn | i cannot install it at the moment, there seems to be some problem getting to the archive | 20:08 |
| Kilos | imo anyway | 20:08 |
| magespawn | and quite often there are many websites with examples | 20:09 |
| magespawn | okay there we go, it is now installing | 20:09 |
| magespawn | i was also having a look at a tool called driftnet | 20:11 |
| Kilos | just tell me how to get last nights logs and ill go find them | 20:14 |
| magespawn | http://munin-monitoring.org/ | 20:14 |
| Kilos | he explained it all nicely for me | 20:14 |
| magespawn | here are some examples of live systems http://munin.ping.uio.no/ | 20:16 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:18 |
| Kilos | na i gotta find those he gave and save them | 20:18 |
| magespawn | they should be here http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | 20:20 |
| Kilos | ty | 20:21 |
| superfly | night all | 20:21 |
| magespawn | i am having a look now, from alst night? | 20:21 |
| magespawn | good night superfly | 20:22 |
| Kilos | night superfly | 20:22 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 20:22 |
| Kilos | i dunno how to open them there magespawn | 20:22 |
| Kilos | i see folders only | 20:22 |
| magespawn | if you click on the one with .html at the end it will open in your browser | 20:26 |
| magespawn | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/12/30/%23ubuntu-za.html | 20:26 |
| magespawn | the time does not seem to be local for the name of the file, so you might have to go the one marked for the 1st of jan | 20:27 |
| Kilos | sjoe so much to read, some oke looking where ssd be better or something | 20:32 |
| Kilos | just look for where graeme pokes miles | 20:32 |
| Kilos | or ill get it | 20:33 |
| magespawn | this one is from yesterday http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/12/31/%23ubuntu-za.html | 20:33 |
| magespawn | you can download it and save it locally, to read later | 20:34 |
| Kilos | it must be on the first | 20:36 |
| Kilos | do i just change date in the link? | 20:36 |
| magespawn | looks that way | 20:39 |
| Kilos | weird | 20:44 |
| Kilos | i can only see till 20.30 | 20:44 |
| Kilos | and the rest of the night doesnt show on the 1st either | 20:44 |
| Kilos | theblazehen: find it man | 20:44 |
| Kilos | that link should show all chats till midnight | 20:55 |
| Kilos | unless the pro turned it off when he said night at 20.27 | 20:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro: fix it | 20:56 |
| Kilos | i think we can mail this guy and ask him where the rest of the nights logs are | 21:02 |
| Kilos | ai! | 21:02 |
| Kilos | marius@pov.lt | 21:02 |
| Kilos | maybe his machine died | 21:03 |
| Kilos | there i mailed him | 21:07 |
| magespawn | i am sure ThatGraemeGuy will know them | 21:23 |
| magespawn | anyway i am off to bed, already way past my bed time | 21:25 |
| magespawn | good night | 21:25 |
| Kilos | sjoe its late | 21:36 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 21:36 |
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