[05:16] Hi Kilos [05:17] hi theblazehen and others [05:17] happy new years to you all [05:17] Same to you Kilos [06:11] theblazehen: only drawback i see with the ssd is because of its size one cant do data recoveries from large drives [06:15] otherwise its all go [06:15] hi bduk en bduk1 [06:16] alles wat mal is vir julle [06:49] Kilos: get a bigger SSD ;) [06:49] up to 3TB [06:49] rofl [06:50] They're expensive enough, that if you have to ask for the price, then it's too much [06:50] im not rockafella im the other fella [06:50] lol [06:50] hi AndChat|99281 [06:55] haha its barry on his tablet [06:57] ah [06:58] but tablet got same bad connection as his pc there where he is [06:58] ah [07:11] Morning everyone, hope you all have a real good year [07:18] you too bduk1 [07:19] i go to rustenburg now. see you all this evening [07:19] Maaz: watch them [07:19] OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you [12:05] good afternoon [12:11] good afternoon magespawn [12:14] how has the new year been so far? [12:15] hanging in there [12:15] yup i think i will be taking a nap ina little bit [12:16] heh heh [12:21] greetings [12:24] network still up to old year tricks [12:28] dont put a huawei router in there unless you're feeling really adventurous [12:40] agg no this was just cell-c [12:41] i have huawei adsl router that i have never been able to get working properly [12:41] Oh Ah, the eternal problem [12:43] my huawei is the first router I have come across that cant dish out fixed IP addresses to it's attached computers [12:43] grrrr [12:43] they do funny things [12:43] the function does not exist [12:44] I even asked huawei [16:15] good evening [16:15] bushtech: can't you set static IP addresses on the computers themselves? [16:22] inetpro, yes thats what I had to do but even then you can only see the attached computers by their mac addresses [16:23] see the attached computers from what point of view? [16:23] on the router [16:24] stupid router [16:24] what router is this? [16:26] B583, bought it because it was the only one I could find at short notice that has got an antenna out for a yagi [16:29] hmm... [16:30] * inetpro has the B593s-601 [16:30] hope yours can do it? [16:31] mine has the option to create a Bundled Address List which seems to be what you want [16:32] inetpro: I'm about to buy one of those - does it treat you well? [16:32] can you tell me where it is in its webpage? === ambo_ is now known as ambo [16:33] ambo: mine is still fairly new so I have not explored all the options, so far am quite happy [16:34] only thing I would have expected in a new router like this is more options to limit bandwidth per device [16:34] I revved Huawei about it so hopefully it helped [16:37] perhaps better to teach the kids how to use bandwidth sparingly in the long run [16:38] good luck:) [16:41] nice thing is that the router has Wi-Fi Multi-SSID with up to four different access channels [16:43] with this enabled I can connect different devices to different channels and effectively see the utilisation stats per channel [16:43] access channels? [16:43] wifi access points [16:44] effectively up to four different wifi networks [16:45] unfortunately all in the same IP address range, but in my case that is all fine [16:46] have you tried the VoIP thing? [16:47] not yet [16:56] ahh... by forcing fixed IP addresses and with IP filtering I can perhaps limit specific devices to access only specific addresses if I really have to go that route [17:02] guten abend you herren okes [17:04] inetpro: which network are you using that router on? [17:04] hi my magespawn [17:04] and ambo and inetpro [17:05] oh and the fly [17:07] Maaz: did you watch them? [17:07] Yeah Kilos They kinda behaved themselves [17:07] yay [17:07] Maaz: ty [17:07] You are welcome Kilos [17:07] Maaz: botsnack [17:08] YAY someone cares about me too! [17:25] hello kbmonkey hows you? [17:25] you better say something, no one else is talking to me [17:26] aw he gone afk again [17:28] Kilos, jys die hele dag weg skaars 'n halfuur terug en nou moan jy [17:29] hahaha naand oompie [17:31] voorspoed vir die nuwe jaar [17:31] jy moet net werk aan die attitude:) [17:32] selle daar, wat is foud met my attitude? [17:33] ek het vandag baie swaar gebry [17:34] het probeer n i7 laptop boot van my pc-repair flash en kon nie die ding stel om te boot van usb nie [17:34] die gemoanery [17:34] man dis nie moan nie dis net ekke [17:34] o ok dis anders [17:35] hahaha [17:35] kon jy in die bios inkom? [17:35] ja [17:36] ambo: am using Telkom Mobile 10GB + 10GB [17:36] ambo: or what do you mean what network? [17:36] yeah - I meant mobile operator ;-) [17:36] het probeer dit maak om usb hdd en key en n ander opsie maar dit wys die usb opsies as not relevant [17:36] grrr [17:36] do you know if that unit works on MTN and Vodacom? [17:36] wb Kilos [17:37] ty inetpro [17:37] ambo: it should work [17:37] they all run their LTE networks in different frequency bands so it can cause compatibility issues [17:38] een CellC said I should just get a router from Telkom when I asked whether they have a wifi-router the other day [17:38] even CellC* [17:39] Kilos, Ek het dit al gehad dat ek eers iets anders in die bios moet stel, reboot en dan die boot order stel [17:39] ambo: why, is VC or MTN cheaper these days? [17:39] or you don't have TM coverage? [17:39] aha ek sal probeer dankie bushtech [17:40] lol inetpro - no I just have existing SIMs on a Vodacom contract [17:40] so eers stell om van dvd te boot en na die boot dit dan stel na usb? [17:41] nee dit was iets andersop 'n andeer bladsy in die bios [17:41] o [17:42] as ek 'n gap kry sal ek daai computer reboot en kyk wat dit was [17:42] dankie [17:43] ek vou hier kom groet maar nie van win7 nie [17:43] wou [17:50] ambo: apparently this one supports FDD 1800/2600MHz & TDD 2300MHz [17:50] so looks like VC and MTN should be fine [17:50] not sure about CellC [17:52] CellC uses 2100 FDD according to wikipedia [17:52] VC and MTN use 1800 FDD [17:53] and TM uses 2300MHz TDD [17:53] whats the FDD and TDD inetpro ? [17:54] Frequency Division Duplexing vs Time Division Duplexing [17:54] sjoe [17:54] ty [17:54] is one better than the other? [17:55] FDD uses two frequencies for send & receive [17:55] ah i get it now [17:55] TDD shares the same frequency but each end sends in different time slots [17:56] TDD splits send/receive on same frequency [17:56] ah [17:56] i type too slow [17:56] which is better... that's an endless debate ;-) [18:03] just thinking about it ,FDD should be quicker because you can send receive simultaneously [18:04] something they do must work with TDD because my tm modem flies [18:05] but then again too many variables [18:06] there isn't any noticable difference in speeds [18:06] the TDD switches so fast that you don't notice a slowness [18:08] i mean variables when trying to compare them because the net isnt stable anyway 1 minute from the next [18:10] you would need 2 same pcs and download from same place at exactly the same time i think [18:10] to compare FDD and TDD ? [18:10] ya [18:15] good evening [18:15] hi Kilos [18:15] hi magespawn [18:15] interesting reading about TDD and FDD [18:16] yeah i should be able to understand it i thinks [18:16] its basically same as radio [18:17] just much higher frequency [18:19] inetpro: you have a d-link router? [18:19] Kilos: no [18:19] indeed, same as wifi, all are using radio frequencies [18:19] oh [18:19] Kilos: we were talking about lte frequency bands [18:20] ian has one that doesnt work on 3g anymore, but i think i forgot to bring it back today [18:21] was a very long day for me with no ubuntu [18:22] http://electronicdesign.com/communications/what-s-difference-between-fdd-and-tdd [18:22] those can very trying days [18:22] yeah [18:22] be^ [18:22] i was itching to come home but he had a meeting at 4pm [18:23] the bakkie water pipe started leaking so we did the travel some, stop fill water bit [18:33] ouch [18:34] ya . but ill fix it tomorrow [18:34] didntr take tools [18:34] duct tape is an amazing product [18:34] ahh they also help [18:34] no duct tape either [18:35] loose like on of those wire clamp things has cut through th rubber pipe [18:35] sudo aptitude install tools [18:35] lol [18:35] duct tape is a complete toolbox [18:36] lol [18:36] that usually happens when the pipe expands too much because of age [18:36] who put the clamp on? [18:36] duct tape, cable ties and steel/super glue [18:37] i think i did about a year ago [18:37] fix almost anything [18:37] hehe [18:38] Ah. I was going to suggest go and kick him in the nuts but that;s going to be difficult [18:38] rofl [18:42] hah [19:11] Kilos: what was that monitor they were telling you to install the other day? [19:12] monitor for what magespawn [19:12] you mean munin [19:12] is that a monitor [19:12] very clever tool that [19:13] thats it ty [19:13] shows my cpu hardly working and the sata drive is whats making things slow [19:14] and you see what is is doing by running /var/cache/munin/www/index.html in a browser [19:15] from what i read it should be able to monitor a whole network [19:17] cool beans [19:21] magespawn: [19:22] if you can read yeasterdays logs before 22.40 you will get the direct commands to see the results in the graphs [19:23] 3 links from graeme [19:24] i can never find where to read lost further than i can scroll back so you can give them to me when you find them [19:24] please [19:25] s/lost/logs [19:25] hi ThatGraemeGuy [19:26] we skinnering about you [19:29] ag shame [19:29] you have nothing better to do? :) [19:31] hahaha [19:32] no man we were calling you to come give those browser link to see the munin outputs [19:32] i can scroll back that far [19:32] cant [19:47] hi samkelo [19:47] i Kilos [20:01] wbb checking something [20:07] Kilos: i sure there are help and man pages [20:08] the man page says min [20:08] i cannot install it at the moment, there seems to be some problem getting to the archive [20:08] imo anyway [20:09] and quite often there are many websites with examples [20:09] okay there we go, it is now installing [20:11] i was also having a look at a tool called driftnet [20:14] just tell me how to get last nights logs and ill go find them [20:14] http://munin-monitoring.org/ [20:14] he explained it all nicely for me [20:16] here are some examples of live systems http://munin.ping.uio.no/ [20:18] sjoe [20:18] na i gotta find those he gave and save them [20:20] they should be here http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [20:21] ty [20:21] night all [20:21] i am having a look now, from alst night? [20:22] good night superfly [20:22] night superfly [20:22] sleep tight [20:22] i dunno how to open them there magespawn [20:22] i see folders only [20:26] if you click on the one with .html at the end it will open in your browser [20:26] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/12/30/%23ubuntu-za.html [20:27] the time does not seem to be local for the name of the file, so you might have to go the one marked for the 1st of jan [20:32] sjoe so much to read, some oke looking where ssd be better or something [20:32] just look for where graeme pokes miles [20:33] or ill get it [20:33] this one is from yesterday http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/12/31/%23ubuntu-za.html [20:34] you can download it and save it locally, to read later [20:36] it must be on the first [20:36] do i just change date in the link? [20:39] looks that way [20:44] weird [20:44] i can only see till 20.30 [20:44] and the rest of the night doesnt show on the 1st either [20:44] theblazehen: find it man [20:55] that link should show all chats till midnight [20:56] unless the pro turned it off when he said night at 20.27 [20:56] inetpro: fix it [21:02] i think we can mail this guy and ask him where the rest of the nights logs are [21:02] ai! [21:02] marius@pov.lt [21:03] maybe his machine died [21:07] there i mailed him [21:23] i am sure ThatGraemeGuy will know them [21:25] anyway i am off to bed, already way past my bed time [21:25] good night [21:36] sjoe its late [21:36] night all. sleep tight