[09:20] <marxjohn1on> is anyone else having trouble with APT this morning? I get a load of 404s when trying to run apt-get update, although I can access the URLs fine in a browser
[09:24] <zmoylan-pi> apt-get update running fine in other terminal window
[09:26] <marxjohn1on> damn, looks like like an issue with sudo rather than with apt :/
[09:30] <marxjohn1on> hmm, seems to have fixed itself after a reboot!
[09:40] <popey> \o/
[09:40] <popey> yay, now my laptop has longest uptime its ever had (in this install)
[09:40] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658563/
[09:40] <popey> 17 days!
[09:42] <zmoylan-pi> my rasp pi laughs at your puny 17 days human :-)
[09:43] <zmoylan-pi> i recently had to reboot it after a network outage.  first reboot in about 3 months
[10:24] <foobarry>  10:24:40 up 1167 days, 21:17,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.03
[10:36] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:41] <zmoylan-pi> morning mammals
[10:45] <awilkins> Urrgh, it's 2015
[10:45] <zmoylan-pi> but you'll be writing dates down as 2014 for a few days weeks yet :-)
[10:47] <brobostigon> months
[12:11]  * Azelphur facedesks
[12:12] <Azelphur> I saw a nice clip-on gamepad on Amazon and it states it'll only work with 82mm phones but the Nexus 6 is 83mm, so I asked a question on Amazon to see if anyone knew if it fits on the N6
[12:12] <Azelphur> some guy replies "I've got an N4 and its fine" ... -.-
[12:17]  * xnox ponders about buying N6
[12:17] <Azelphur> xnox: I'm pondering too which is why I wanna make sure it fits ;)
[12:25]  * brobostigon is happy with his nexus4, not too big, not too small.
[12:38]  * awilkins is another happy Nexus 4 person, not even unhappy with the battery life
[12:39] <awilkins> Android L seems to have really perked it up.
[12:39] <brobostigon> last about a day i would say, average.
[12:39]  * brobostigon agrees
[12:40] <awilkins> If it was an easy matter to replace the battery I would probably consider doing it just to refresh it, but since it's a fiddle, I'll probably wait until it actually annoys me.
[15:29] <cocoa117> does preseeding have option to use NFS as option to install Ubuntu?
[15:29] <cocoa117> kickstart have this optin in the kickstart file e.g. nfs --server 10.2.3.4 --dir /srv/dfds
[15:34] <sebsebseb> hi
[15:46] <popey> hello sebsebseb
[15:46] <sebsebseb> popey: hi
[15:47] <sebsebseb> popey: are you back at work today?
[15:55] <popey> sebsebseb: nope
[15:55] <popey> Monday
[15:56] <sebsebseb> Ubuntu BQ Phone
[15:56] <sebsebseb> next month then?
[15:56] <sebsebseb> popey: I am about to get my Jolla,  waiting for parcel to come, I shoud have put the code in for that before Christmas really since had paid etc
[15:56] <sebsebseb> ,but might get a BQ Ubuntu Phone to
[15:58] <popey> yeah, mid feb i believe
[15:58] <penguin42> popey: How's the headware ?
[15:58] <sebsebseb> yeah accordingg to omgubuntu, but your the expert on that realy not htem :d
[15:58] <popey> friend of mine just got a jolla, he likes phones with real keyboards.
[15:58] <sebsebseb> oh  jolla has a real keyboard?
[15:58] <sebsebseb> yeah I'll get tablet in May to
[15:58] <popey> well, actually omgubuntu Joey is one of the Ubuntu Insiders
[15:58] <popey> who get news before us
[15:59] <sebsebseb> really?
[15:59] <sebsebseb> even though the site is unoffial
[15:59] <popey> sebsebseb: yes, there was an indiegogo campaign
[15:59] <popey> yes
[15:59] <sebsebseb> yep that's what I contributed to
[15:59] <popey> he's one of a whole bunch
[15:59] <sebsebseb> the indiego compain for Jolla
[15:59] <popey> Jordan Keyes is too
[15:59] <popey> no, a separate indiegogo for a keyboard
[15:59] <sebsebseb> also the edge before actaully I think, but that never happended so
[15:59] <popey> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla
[15:59] <popey> good if you like real keyboards
[15:59] <foobarry> spotify app works for non premium accoints now..
[15:59] <sebsebseb> oh another one
[16:00] <sebsebseb> yes that's what annoys me about my Andoird phone trying to type on there is so slow uh
[16:00] <sebsebseb> I am a touch typist :)
[16:00] <foobarry> also, i don't seem to get any ads on the web player anymore ;S
[16:00] <sebsebseb> for 15 years or so
[16:00] <sebsebseb> so if you mean real keyboard as in like computer keyboard, well :)
[16:02] <sebsebseb> popey: yes that's good, is that for the tablet to hm
[16:02] <sebsebseb> that looks good I mean above
[16:03] <popey> penguin42: it's http://store.bqreaders.com/es/smartphones/aquaris-e-4-5 - not high end
[16:03] <sebsebseb> yeah so what will the price be of it
[16:03] <sebsebseb> in pounds or proabably hmm
[16:03] <popey> dunno, but should be similar to that price linked above
[16:05] <penguin42> popey: No, I meant your promise to wear unusual headgear
[16:05] <sebsebseb> about 117 pounds it seems then
[16:06] <popey> penguin42: haha, i thought you meant hardware :D
[16:06] <sebsebseb> I guess shoudn't be to much more than £100  since aparnatly the hardware is about a year old to on that phone
[16:07] <sebsebseb> popey: then the high end  phone is for USA and such mainly isn't it, from the other company? that comes out later
[16:08] <popey> Meizu is chi
[16:08] <popey> *China
[16:08] <sebsebseb> popey: I am listening to the new years show,  now starting to listen to you
[16:08] <popey> hehe
[16:09] <sebsebseb> I will do the whole thing
[16:09] <sebsebseb> it isn't really 26 hours though, since  white space
[16:09] <ali1234> if I get a BQ phone, can I put android on it if/when ubuntu totally sucks?
[16:09] <sebsebseb> ali1234: probably
[16:10] <sebsebseb> try it might be a bit sucky I guess,  someties anyway,  but  it wil still be intresitng to have the first one :)
[16:11]  * sebsebseb will have a Jolla as well :d  and  my old two years old Android phone
[16:12] <ali1234> i might be able to get a freebie but it depends if they actually bother to send them out
[16:12] <ali1234> if not i'll have to buy one
[16:12] <sebsebseb> freeibie from where?
[16:12] <ali1234> but pretty much i only want to try it out
[16:12] <sebsebseb> ali1234: no I think BQ will sel them and that's that
[16:12] <ali1234> you know, from people :)
[16:12] <sebsebseb> if it's about £100 that's reasonable
[16:12] <sebsebseb> I think
[16:13] <sebsebseb> ,but not to much over that, hardware is old aparnatly
[16:13] <ali1234> they always send out review devices when they make a new phone
[16:13] <sebsebseb> hmm true to media
[16:13] <ali1234> and by "they" i mean all mobile phone manufacturers
[16:13] <sebsebseb> some bloggers
[16:13] <ali1234> however this isn't really a new phone so who know
[16:13]  * sebsebseb probably woudn't get one free anyway
[16:17] <sebsebseb> popey: so apparnatly ubuntu uk podcast might be stopping?
[16:19] <popey> is it?
[16:20] <sebsebseb> popey: no just something some were saying on the thing
[16:20] <popey> the thing?
[16:20] <sebsebseb> apparnatly Tony is leaveing I should probably say?
[16:20] <popey> ali1234: yeah, we're sending some out to some people
[16:20] <popey> yeah, he is
[16:21] <sebsebseb> ,but you  lot going to carry on without him?
[16:21] <ali1234> canonical is? normally BQ would do that :)
[16:21] <popey> we are.
[16:21] <popey> google send out nexus devices, not lg
[16:21] <sebsebseb> ok that's what I wanted to know :)
[16:21] <ali1234> nexus devices are google branded tho
[16:21] <sebsebseb> why's he leaving?  someone mentioend on podcast that's all
[16:21] <popey> sebsebseb: hang on, my "we are" was in reply to ali1234
[16:21] <sebsebseb> oh
[16:21] <popey> sebsebseb: he said on uupc
[16:22] <popey> and the bq is ubuntu branded (I think)
[16:22] <ali1234> i guess they have the manufacturer logo on them too
[16:22] <popey> nexus devices are co-branded.
[16:22] <sebsebseb> oh ok well I haven't heard that
[16:22] <ali1234> yeah, interesting, that :)
[16:22] <popey> heh
[16:22] <ali1234> you sure you're allowed to tell us this? ;)
[16:22] <popey> heh
[16:22] <popey> I'm only telling you what I've seen reported elsewhere :D
[16:22] <popey> (publicly)
[16:22] <sebsebseb> omgubuntu guy gets a free one I guess joey :d
[16:22] <popey> yes
[16:23] <ali1234> i expected it would be more of a "canonical makes the OS, manufacturer takes it and brands it" type of thing
[16:23] <sebsebseb> popey gets a free one I guess, but you  helped make it etc
[16:23] <sebsebseb> so that makes sense
[16:23] <popey> i already have one
[16:23] <sebsebseb> the BQ one?
[16:23] <popey> ali1234: i think that can happen too
[16:23] <popey> sebsebseb: yes
[16:23] <sebsebseb> oh I see just the last bits on the OS, and  company stuff
[16:24] <sebsebseb> henceFebrurary relaes
[16:24] <sebsebseb> I guess
[17:10] <gavyam> helllo UK!
[17:10] <gavyam> i love your country.
[17:11] <gavyam> but i have an issue with my linux.
[17:42] <sebsebseb>  
[18:38] <awilkins> Anyone know a way of buying Google Play credit for your child's account without associating your paypal / credit card with their account?
[18:39] <brobostigon> how about one of those google play cards/tokens?
[18:39] <brobostigon> credit*
[18:39] <awilkins> Yeah. It just seems redonkulous that you have to go a physical shop and buy a printed piece of plastic
[18:40] <awilkins> And no, I'm not trusting one of those unapproved retailers who'll email you the code
[18:40] <brobostigon> i dont know if there is a way, to topup someones elses account.
[18:40] <awilkins> Not an obvious one
[18:42] <penguin42> brobostigon: Can you buy an electronic version of those google play cards
[18:42] <zmoylan-pi> a prepay credit card?
[18:43] <brobostigon> no idea penguin42
[18:43] <awilkins> Prepaid credit cards are not available in the UK AFAIK but I've not researched it
[18:43] <awilkins> Can't seem to buy electronic versions of the play gift cards
[18:44] <awilkins> Well, not from the approved source
[18:44] <awilkins> THere are guys who will mail you a code but I'd rather not give them my money
[18:44] <awilkins> Although you can buy them for Bitcoin...
[18:45] <zmoylan-pi> odd, they have prepay cards in ireland.  i thought the banks here would only risk them after the uk had done all the software writing :-)
[18:48]  * awilkins wonders if there's anything left on my Post Office Travel Card
[18:48] <awilkins> You can get prepaids
[18:48] <awilkins> Just never considered it
[18:48] <awilkins> Still a total PITA to get a £3.99 app to please my daughter
[18:49] <popey> stop bitching and go to the shop like a good dad
[18:50] <awilkins> :P
[18:51] <zmoylan-pi> can you gift apps on your account to her?
[18:52] <popey> no
[18:52] <popey> and if your child is under 13 they (or you) are in breach of the ToS anyway
[18:52] <popey> so trying to get Google to "fix" this is a non-starter
[18:53] <popey> the quick fix is logon to google play with your account on their device and install the app that way.
[18:53] <popey> or see if it's in the amazon store, and use that
[18:53] <awilkins> Yeah, even buying her a card and getting her to redeem it is outside the ToS
[18:53] <zmoylan-pi> it's a bit sad that it works so badly
[18:54] <awilkins> The quick fix is not really acceptable because the point is that I want to AVOID exposing my account to her tablet because it's a cesspool of free/evil apps
[18:54] <popey> you dont need to
[18:54] <popey> login as you, logout again
[18:56] <popey> i have found a number of paid apps are free in the amazon store
[18:56] <popey> also, there's a free app each day
[19:02] <awilkins> Blimey. Her tablet is sick.
[19:02] <awilkins> She went to the loo with it while we chatted
[19:03] <awilkins> It's dropped 80% of it's charge in that time
[19:03] <awilkins> She must have utterly thrashed the battery
[19:03] <penguin42> awilkins: Battery management seems to be complete black art; I've got a Nook that does that
[19:08] <popey> awilkins: what tablet?
[19:29] <awilkins> popey, hudl 1
[19:30] <popey> ah
[19:37] <czajkowski> popey: you about ?
[19:42] <popey> czajkowski: yo
[19:44] <czajkowski> popey: any idea what I'm doing or not doing here
[19:44] <czajkowski> I've a clean install
[19:44] <czajkowski> installed flash
[19:44] <czajkowski> on chromium most work like youtube no issues
[19:44] <czajkowski> but on some pages keeps saying please install flash
[19:45] <czajkowski> and also some drop memus do not work on chromium they appear blank but if you arrow down them they show
[19:50] <zmoylan-pi> don't a lot of youtube pages not use html5 and not flash?
[19:51] <zmoylan-pi> *now use
[19:52] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Only if you configure for it
[20:04] <mapp> what to wathc hm
[20:04] <mapp> watch
[20:53] <mapp> well that was rubbish crispy chilli chicken ..for 2  ..pah 2 5yr olds maybe
[20:55] <popey> czajkowski: dunno, i dont have flash installed anymore, gave up on it. you may need pepper flash installing though
[20:55] <popey> for chromium
[20:56] <popey> oops   http://download.cyanogenmod.org/
[21:01] <czajkowski> popey: okie cheers
[21:35] <foobarry> mouse just wandered out in the lounge
[21:35] <foobarry> and dog was sleeping on my lap
[21:35] <foobarry> think it escaped down a wobbly antenna socket that goes under floorboards
[21:36] <foobarry> wife wtching another adwul film
[21:37] <foobarry> afwul
[21:37] <foobarry> snow twilight and the hunstman
[21:47] <mapp> never even heard of it
[21:47] <mapp> im watching gone girl..bit long tho 2hr26 pfft