[00:01] <danishanish> hey guys
[00:04] <OmegaOne> !ops
[00:04] <wafflej0ck> OmegaOne, what's wrong?
[00:04] <OmegaOne> wafflej0ck, im a troll
[00:04] <OmegaOne> !ops
[00:06] <wafflej0ck> danishanish, for general chat join #ubuntu-offtopic if you have a support question about ubuntu feel free to just ask
[00:06] <NinjaCowboy> I think I just messed up things further. I ran "unity --reset" and "gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1". Now I have no launcher, panel, or window borders.
[00:08] <daswichtel> did anyone read may question 40 min ago?
[00:08] <Svetlana> didn't see it
[00:08] <daswichtel> shall i repost?
[00:09] <NinjaCowboy> Both of those commands froze my desktop afterwards and made me do a hard reset.
[00:09] <Svetlana> daswichtel: please
[00:09] <daswichtel> np mom
[00:10] <daswichtel> ok in short: 14.04, soundout stops working every time when i pause a youtubevid or it ends. any ideas? didnt find a way else then reboot to get it work again. im on a fresh (4days old) install.
[00:11] <danishanish> hm
[00:11] <danishanish> same thing happens to me
[00:11] <danishanish> idk y
[00:12] <Stmeter> Hi guys. Weird problem I'm having. I have created a python script that connects to a HTTPS site, and it works fine on my Mac, but not on ubuntu. So I assumed it was a dependency issue, so I ported the code to PHP and I'm still having a problem with it timing out.
[00:12] <Stmeter> I have tried multiple fresh Ubuntu installs.
[00:12] <daswichtel> in addition: firefox and it worked perfekt for 3 days. no updates happend. no configchanges relating to sound
[00:13] <danishanish> r
[00:13] <daswichtel> it woudnt be a surprise if its a fuccked up adobe plugin.
[00:15] <ikonia> daswichtel: tone down the language please
[00:15] <ikonia> there is no need to swear
[00:16] <daswichtel> sry emotions took over. because i like adobe so much ;-) will not happen again
[00:16] <ikonia> daswichtel: not a problem, don't worry
[00:21] <taterzz> hi, I'm having an initramfs issue. I've looked through a lot of threads and none address the issue in respect to my box. It's an hp pavilion ED895AA
[00:21] <taterzz> there's no option for switching from ide to acpi or anything like that
[00:21] <taterzz> in the bios
[00:22] <taterzz> I've tried 32 bit and 64 bit, and several older versions of ubuntu and the issue still persists
[00:26] <daftykins> taterzz: so explain what happens exactly?
[00:26] <taterzz> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[00:26] <taterzz> just hangs out there
[00:26] <taterzz> tried different usb sticks, slots
[00:26] <daftykins> so you're failing to boot live media, ok - did your ISO downloads hash ok?
[00:27] <daftykins> and how are you creating them?
[00:28] <taterzz> the hash worked out, tried start up creator and unetbootin
[00:28] <daftykins> ok, so the system you're creating from is a Linux host?
[00:29] <daftykins> can you plug the flash drive back in, identify the device name and run "sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.ISO of=/dev/sdX bs=2M" using USB ports on the motherboard directly? (if not a laptop)
[00:29] <taterzz> ok, sec
[00:29] <taterzz> yes linux
[00:32] <taterzz> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/NaqJE9zc
[00:33] <EriC^^> taterzz: you should dd to the drive not the partition i think
[00:34] <EriC^^> why are you installing 11.04 ?
[00:34] <taterzz> because some threads said it might work with an older version
[00:34] <taterzz> I thought that was the drive
[00:36] <EriC^^> nah sdb is the drive
[00:36] <daftykins> taterzz: yeah i said sdX, not sdX# :)
[00:36] <EriC^^> sdb1 is the first partition on that drive
[00:36] <taterzz> oohh
[00:36] <marie> bb
[00:36] <EriC^^> taterzz: id' try 12.04 lts though
[00:37] <taterzz> ok, i'll do that
[00:37] <taterzz> do i have to erase the drive or can i just use that command again?
[00:37] <EriC^^> no just use it again
[00:40] <bcm4318> I left my laptop running on battery for a long while and after i returned it was off. What is the command that will let know how long my computer was up before it switched itself off?
[00:41] <ObrienDave> there's a command for that?
[00:41] <taterzz> uptime ?
[00:42] <ObrienDave> learn something new everyday!
[00:43] <taterzz> daftykins, do i have to do anything else to make it bootable?
[00:43] <bcm4318> uptime will tell how long my laptop ha been running (meaning it is still up). Not how long it WAS up before it swictched off
[00:43] <EriC^^> actually uptime only shows how long the system has been up
[00:43] <daniel_> hello amigos =)
[00:43] <daswichtel> uptime can show how long the last uptime was? didnt know that
[00:44] <taterzz> oh i didn't know , i was just throwing it out there, daswichtel
[00:44] <EriC^^> you can probably get it from the reboot user
[00:44] <EriC^^> when the pc boots he logs in
[00:45] <EriC^^> type last reboot
[00:45] <daswichtel> look at the logs.
[00:45] <bcm4318> what logs?
[00:45] <EriC^^> but yeah, that'll only say when you last booted it, but not at what time it shut off by itself
[00:46] <EriC^^> bcm4318: look at /var/log/pm*.log
[00:46] <EriC^^> it probably mentions going to sleep or something
[00:46] <daswichtel> boah my brain... dont know the filename  but message.log or something
[00:47] <bcm4318> last reboot does not show  at what time my laptop  shut itself off when it ran out of battery power
[00:47] <daniel_> i am trying to reinstall my network-manager to ubuntu 12.04 -- i have no internet connection, so i downloaded the newest desktop version 14.10 and dd to a usb-stick, added to sources.list the line "deb file:/mnt utopic main restricted" (mounted the stick to /mnt before...), apt-get update is successfully, but when doing 'apt-get install network-manager', it's not found, only a reference (i think maybe the uncommented internet sources?)
[00:47] <daftykins> taterzz: nope, no extra steps
[00:48] <daniel_> lol, maybe too much in a row, but maybe someone can find the problematic spot, why the apt is not searching/finding the package from the stick.... or some diagnostic steps? i tried to inspect with dpkg-*-tools, but failed...
[00:49] <bcm4318> /var/log/pm-powersave.log does not show  at what time my laptop  shut itself off when it ran out of battery power
[00:49] <upyeclipse> so how do I copy everything in a folder including other folders to another folder?
[00:50] <daftykins> pretty sure you were told cp -R before
[00:50] <daftykins> but maybe rsync would be more relevant
[00:51] <pixelkat> is there any advantage in installing ubuntu 14.04 or 14.10 over elementary os luna?
[00:51] <taterzz> daftykins, the issue persists
[00:51] <pixelkat> also, if i were to install ubuntu, should i choose 14.04 or 14.10?
[00:52] <k1l> pixelkat: do you want to upgrade all 6 months?
[00:52] <pixelkat> what do you mean all 6 months?
[00:52] <daniel_> pixelkat, depends on what you prefer more: LTS (long term support) or the newest features...
[00:52] <pixelkat> oh
[00:52] <daftykins> taterzz: HP prioliant you say, get the latest BIOS installed and reload defaults
[00:53] <daftykins> well HP something or other
[00:53] <k1l> pixelkat: 14.04 is LTS and you can stay there for 5 years. on 14.10 you need to upgrade all 6 months to the next reelase.
[00:53] <pixelkat> i just want something solid and stable for recording, graphic and video editing
[00:53] <daniel_> nobody experienced in installing packages from local folders / usb-stick?
[00:53] <pixelkat> and to run snes, gba emulators
[00:53] <pixelkat> and minecraft
[00:53] <k1l> pixelkat: ok choose 14.04 and take a look at the ubuntu studio stuff
[00:54] <andlabs|2> two more data recovery questions
[00:54] <andlabs|2> 1) Is there a way I can find out what type of ext4 data structure (group header, indoe table, etc.) is at a given block with debugfs?
[00:54] <daswichtel> @pixelkat audio & stable..... hmmmm
[00:54] <andlabs|2> 2) only the first 10 blocks (40960 bytes) of the journal are lost - can I still use what's left to manually recover inode table entries?
[00:55] <taterzz> daftykins, that's a great idea thanks. Now it's just a matter of finding the bios update. HP not making it easy
[00:55] <pixelkat> ubuntu studio looks like it has way more than what i need
[00:55] <daftykins> taterzz: doh! maybe doing a reset now might help?
[00:55] <pixelkat> i will probably only use openshot , kazam, and gimp
[00:55] <andlabs|2> I already ran icheck on the block numbers and they don't seem to map to inode numbers so I'm guessing they're inode table entires but IDK how to find out
[00:55] <serventelite> just accidentally deleted windows 8.1 while trying to dual boot with ubuntu. So now i am just left with linux and i don't feel like reinstalling windows 8.1, its not worth it. Just linux now YAY.
[00:55] <k1l> pixelkat: then install plain 14.04
[00:56] <andlabs|2> serventelite: did you lose dta
[00:56] <k1l> pixelkat: and if you want support here dont install elementary
[00:56] <serventelite> most of it was backed up to a usb so nothing really
[00:56] <pixelkat> well, i like pantheon better than unity
[00:56] <RNeville> serventelite: great
[00:56] <pixelkat> is there a way to use pantheon instead of unity on 14.04
[00:56] <taterzz> daftykins, you mean loading the bios defaults?
[00:56] <ObrienDave> pixelkat, Studio uses XFCE
[00:56] <k1l> pixelkat: so you know to ask the elementary guys for help then
[00:57] <pixelkat> i like xfce
[00:57] <daswichtel> @Svetlana another 40 minutes shall i repost again or give up.... sry no offense
[00:57] <pixelkat> im in elementary but its crickets
[00:57] <ObrienDave> pixelkat, and you don't have to install ALL of Studio
[00:57] <daftykins> taterzz: yep
[00:57] <daniel_> pixelkat: you can install every pantheon on ubuntu, too...
[00:57] <pixelkat> oh
[00:57] <Svetlana> daswichtel: I may only suggest not using youtube web site. There is the youtube-dl package.
[00:57] <pixelkat> so i should install 14.04 and pantheon instead of unity?
[00:58] <taterzz> daftykins, already tried
[00:59] <pixelkat> looks like installing pantheon on 14.04 is a pain
[00:59] <daswichtel> @Svetlana you try to say not to use the "well designed" adobe plugin. and use any offlineplayer of my choice?
[00:59] <bufferloss> how do I run commands on startup?
[00:59] <Svetlana> daswichtel: vlc
[01:00] <daniel_> pixelkat: would be my solution...doesnt seem so painful to me, but never tried, only read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66757/how-to-install-the-pantheon-desktop-environment
[01:00] <daswichtel> sry im rofling......
[01:01] <k1l> pixelkat: take a look at xubuntu
[01:01] <pixelkat> ive used it
[01:01] <taterzz> daftykins, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?cc=us&lc=en&softwareitem=pv-56089-1 lol .exe file. Jebus
[01:01] <pixelkat> so far elementary luna has been my favorite but it still has bugs
[01:01] <pixelkat> maybe its user error i dont know
[01:01] <daniel_> k1l, it seems you have some experience gained, have you ever added a folder/usb-stick to your sources.list?
[01:02] <k1l> pixelkat: ok, so come back if you know if you want to use elementary or not. we cant help you on that decision
[01:02] <daswichtel> this ******* ***** ****** ******* *****player by this ****** and **** company named adobe is so great...
[01:02] <daftykins> taterzz: yeah, you might get away with win98 boot files on a disk if it's a DOS kinda prog
[01:02] <daftykins> taterzz: double check and triple check it's the right model though!
[01:02] <pixelkat> i just wnt the most solid and visually appealing OS to use for screen capture (kazam), bluetooth controlled music, openshot, and gimp
[01:02] <k1l> daniel_: no, and i would not do that.
[01:02] <pixelkat> elementary os uses a program called "music" thats bluetooth controlled
[01:02] <k1l> daniel_: if you want to install local stuff just use dpkg
[01:03] <daftykins> taterzz: oh, looks like XP - might be GUI :(
[01:03] <pixelkat> is there something like that for ubuntu 14.04?
[01:03] <taterzz> This is so stupid there isn't even an OS on the box.
[01:03] <daniel_> k1l: hmm,... but i have no internet connection on the netbook, no cat-cable.support and i need wifi-connection again... any tricks?
[01:04] <daswichtel> thx maybe they patch totally awesome in 2015. like the last years...... ok calm down. no further spam.
[01:04] <k1l> daniel_: get the .deb packages you need. put them on a usb, install them.
[01:05] <daniel_> haha, thanks - haven't thought about that ;)
[01:06] <taterzz> Alright. I'm gonna pirate WinXP then just so I can update the bios. God I have too much time on my hands
[01:06] <eury_> alguem tc português
[01:06] <daniel_> taterzz: +1 - pirating windows is always favorable xD
[01:07] <daftykins> daniel_: none of that childish attitude in here thanks
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> !piracy
[01:07] <taterzz> haha yeah I posted on facebook the other day: "I can't wait to pirate the newest version of Windows as soon as it comes out!"
[01:07] <daftykins> taterzz: fair enough but please don't hint at illegal activity in future
[01:07] <taterzz> oh sorry
[01:07] <daftykins> off topic, support only thanks :)
[01:07] <daniel_> daftykins: okay, sorry, thought it could be fun ;)
[01:07] <daftykins> comedy lives in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <daftykins> daniel_: in there it can be ^
[01:08] <daniel_> daftykins: hmkay - didn't know this channel - thanks for the support ;)
[01:08] <Stmeter> If anyones avaliable: I have a PHP script that works on my Mac that sends information to a https site. Although when I try it on multiple Ubuntu installs, the script hangs. Any ideas?
[01:09] <daftykins> Stmeter: try a PHP channel :P
[01:09] <daswichtel> ok thx for your help... not for me. but for all u can do something for. bb
[01:09] <Armadillos> Question:  Does anyone have a link to set up my linux box to be a Radius server for my wireless access point?
[01:09] <Stmeter> daftykins: Not a programming problem. It doesn't work with python either.
[01:09] <Svetlana> daswichtel: I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I'm assuming things are working then?
[01:09] <daftykins> Stmeter: well you clean installed the OS a few times, so maybe they have a clue on what you're trying to do being wrong / lacking something.
[01:10] <daftykins> Stmeter: either way it's a better bet than repeating in here to no avail ;)
[01:10] <Stmeter> I guess so. It's just odd that it works locally. Thanks daftykins
[01:10] <daftykins> np
[01:11] <daswichtel> @svetlana problems occurd since i us youtube. i follow the 31c3 because i coudnt get there this year. i normally do exactly what u metioned.
[01:12] <Svetlana> I see.
[01:12] <daswichtel> but this time i was hmm a lazy bone? dont know if its the right phrase
[01:13] <Svetlana> It is a valid word, hehe.
[01:13] <daswichtel> but nevertheless its a bug
[01:15] <daswichtel> my fingers eat characters.... time to get to sleep. bb and keep up. btw happy new fear
[01:16] <SchrodingersScat> happy new fear indeed
[01:16] <wafflej0ck> danishanish, stepped away for a bit there have you tried in Chrome as well they have the embedded Pepper Flash plugin that's typically kept more up to date I believe in terms of Flash versions
[01:17] <jonascj> Hi all. How do I right-click on the top-bar to add an applet/widget? If I just right click on the bar I get nothing, if I right click close to the watch, nm-applet etc. then I just get their settings. This is ubuntu 14.04
[01:18] <wafflej0ck> danishanish, that said just tried in Firefox and I can't reproduce, play a video has audio, I pause it I start it still has audio
[01:18] <alex> happy new year ubuntu world
[01:20] <wafflej0ck> jonascj, don't believe Unity has support for extra applets/widgets in the panel aside from the default ones for system tasks (someone may correct me here) KDE panels tend to give you the most in terms of customization or you may want to check out Mate (based on Gnome 2) or perhaps XFCE or some other desktop environment
[01:21] <alex> can anyone help me?  I just loaded Ubuntu Studio onto my pc which already had Windows 7 and Cinnomon Quiana.  For some reason GRUB does list Windows 7, which I still need for various programs.  I can access files through the file manager, but cannot Launch Windows anymore.
[01:22] <BigBawb> Hello friends, I can't seem to connect to wifi if theres a password on the network
[01:22] <BigBawb> Im using an adapter thats using ndiswrapper
[01:22] <wafflej0ck> alex what happens when you choose to boot windows? the long story short is you'll need to get your grub configuration right and run update-grub in the end but need to determine what your grub settings should be for getting windows booted
[01:23] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, is it for WPA as well as WEP wifi passwords? would just be good to narrow it down, also lsusb to get the device id and other info and Google about the particular issue (ubuntu version+device+problem)
[01:24] <squinty> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/08/useful-panel-indicators-collection-for.html
[01:24] <alex> Windows is not on the list .. only Cinnamon and Studio
[01:24] <BigBawb> wafflej0ck: Good thinking friend
[01:24] <BigBawb> Let me try
[01:25] <danishanish> hey guys, would you recommend python or shell when
[01:26] <rypervenche> danishanish: When what? :)
[01:28] <wafflej0ck> alex k you can try, sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX, where /dev/sdX is the target partition you can use lsblk to see all the mounted partitions and their mount points
[01:30] <Stmeter> daftykins: I hate to keep beating a dead horse here, but it works with a fresh centos install.
[01:30] <Stmeter> So I guess I'll be using that :/
[01:31] <wafflej0ck> alex if you see that it saw the windows partition then just, sudo update-grub, and after it's done give it a reboot, if you don't see windows in there (can output what it did from the grub configuration with, cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[01:33] <wafflej0ck> alex in the case it doesn't find it you can manually make the entry, cd /etc/grub and check the README there cat README you can see how the files work there but let me know if the grub-install doesn't work out
[01:34] <nmatrix9> How is everyone this New Years?
[01:35] <wafflej0ck> nmatrix9, good but for general chat join #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is just for support questions and answers, hope you're having a good New Years too though
[01:35] <jonascj> wafflej0ck: ah okay, I just searched for "ubuntu temperature monitor" and one suggestion was the "sensors-applet" which they say I can add to my "panel" by right clicking it
[01:36] <wafflej0ck> jonascj, yeah probably old instructions for Gnome 2 or maybe KDE instructions not sure
[01:36] <wafflej0ck> jonascj, make sure you search for the particular version you're on since the desktop environment has evolved over time
[01:37] <wafflej0ck> jonascj, personally I use Ubuntu Gnome edition that uses Gnome 3 and I use Conky to have some stats but I don't have temperature stuff in there (think it's possible though)
[01:38] <squinty> jonascj:  http://www.noobslab.com/2014/08/useful-panel-indicators-collection-for.html
[01:39] <wafflej0ck> squinty, wow nice list
[01:40] <wafflej0ck> squinty, too bad so many PPAs but nice that all that is available didn't realize all that stuff worked in Unity too
[01:41] <cogito> Hi, Is this the right channel for help related to a boot problem?
[01:42] <wafflej0ck> cogito, if you're running ubuntu then yeah probably
[01:42] <cogito> Excellent. Thanks.
[01:42] <squinty> wafflej0ck:  I just googled "how to install applets in ubuntu 14.04" and restricted the search to the last year.  lots of hits returned fwiw
[01:43] <wafflej0ck> squinty, yeah I only used Unity shortly before deciding to try out KDE and have since moved to Gnome 3 but good to know
[01:46] <cogito> I  have -- had -- a fully working dual boot (Ubuntu14.10 + Windows8) on my Acer Aspire S7 -- which was a little tricky to set up thanks to UEFI and RAID. However, I was messing with the bootloader, and stupidly ran `dmraid -dE` and now all has gone to hell.
[01:47] <cogito> I followed several guides to try to recover, but right now I have a non booting system, the partition tables are messed up, and I'm unable to unwind my way out of this.
[01:48] <cogito> On the plus side, I seem to be able to view all my files through Nautilus. Is there hope for me, or do I have to format and start over?
[01:49] <daftykins> i think i can guess which'd be quicker
[01:49] <daftykins> you hould backup now regardless
[01:49] <wafflej0ck> cogito, sorry no experience with dmraid directly but yeah think backup of data and restart with the Linux/bootloader config sounds easier than fixing it as is
[01:49] <cogito> I have backed up my important files
[01:50] <cogito> When you say "restart with the Linux/bootloader config", do you mean reformat and reinstall?
[01:51] <traekili> cogito, does your system have the option to boot in legacy mode within your BIOS options?
[01:51] <cogito> Yes, it has that option
[01:51] <traekili> after starting over it would be an idea to do that
[01:51] <traekili> on next install
[01:51] <daftykins> that's rubbish, legacy won't make any of that easier
[01:51] <traekili> he said it was no easy task to set up with uefi
[01:52] <traekili> legacy disables that
[01:52] <copsman> traekili: bull. Uefi is easy
[01:52] <daftykins> unlikely claim
[01:52] <traekili> is this ubuntu or a shouting match...
[01:52] <traekili> lol
[01:52] <traekili> chill guys
[01:52] <daftykins> shying away from doing things right doesn't make it easier
[01:53] <daftykins> traekili: no idea what you're talking about
[01:53] <traekili> i know i just thought id add the option in case that would indeed be his last option
[01:53] <traekili> 'bull' and 'rubbish' is not the language  i expected here.
[01:53] <traekili> i dont mind being wrong.
[01:53] <copsman> Uefi is easy traekili
[01:53] <traekili> to me it is
[01:53] <traekili> as well
[01:54] <Sveta> I am yet to see a shouting match hehe :)
[01:54] <copsman> Sveta: You won't
[01:55] <daftykins> lets get back on topic
[02:00] <ratsbag> Y
[02:01] <Sveta> can I help you ratsbag
[02:01] <BigBawb> Hi there, Im back. I can confirm the problem is with all password types
[02:02] <BigBawb> I tried wep wpa and wpa2 none work. Unsecuring the network it will work just fine
[02:03] <Dylan_> I'm trying to run Rosetta Stone using Virtualbox (Guest Windows XP 32 Bit). Running Ubuntu 14.04. I am using a headset for sound. As far as I can tell, my microphone is functioning correctly but I am not able to hear sound. Is anyone familiar enough with Virtualbox to help?
[02:03] <ratsbag> BigBawb: You know your password and type of e
[02:05] <Dylan_> Nada?
[02:05] <BigBawb> ratsbag: yes
[02:05] <SchrodingersScat> Dylan_: can try changing the sound device for the machine in the virtualbox settings
[02:05] <BigBawb> Im currently on my laptop about 3 feet from my desktop
[02:05] <Sveta> Dylan_: try to run something simpler that makes sounds, to rule out bugs in rosetta stone
[02:05] <BigBawb> changed to all different types of passwords the only connection I got was unsecured
[02:06] <Sveta> ratsbag: please stop messaging me with rude insults, thanks
[02:06] <Dylan_> Schrodinger: I'll try that as soon as I try Sveta's advice.
[02:07] <daftykins> Sveta: report any user in #ubuntu-ops please
[02:07] <Sveta> yup
[02:07] <Dylan_> Doh. I'm an idiot. I didn't have my Ubuntu audio settings right.
[02:07] <Sveta> yay :)
[02:07] <raveenz> Dylan_: did you install virtualbox guest additions too?
[02:07] <ratsbag> BigBawb: when encryption is on can your WiFi device locate your router.
[02:09] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, you check out lsusb and lsb_release info
[02:10] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, if it's a USB wifi adapter if it's built in use lspci to see the device info
[02:10] <ian__> How can I identify whether TRIM is enabled on my SSD?
[02:11] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, I've had some issues with USB ones using ndiswrapper with WPA2 encryption but it worked for other types of encryption but might be something specific to the drivers you're using perhaps can find an alternative or something
[02:11] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" while trying to connect and pastebin the output
[02:12] <wafflej0ck> ian__, SO has a post that seems to cover it http://askubuntu.com/questions/443761/how-is-trim-enabled
[02:12] <wafflej0ck> er askubuntu I guess :|
[02:13] <bubbasaures> ian__, trim is in 14.04 already but there are a number of tweaks and a million links saying more or less the same.
[02:14] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: kk its gonna take me a minute cuz I gotta switch between pcs
[02:14] <ian__> wafflej0ck, bubbasaures thanks for the help.  I see that /etc/cron.weekly has a file "fstrim" that runs the trim command so I think I'm good right?
[02:14] <BigBawb> Im also using ndiswrapper if that helps
[02:15] <BigBawb> I read during the whole tutorial I went through that people had password issues but the solutions suggested arent working
[02:15] <BigBawb> brb
[02:15] <wafflej0ck> ian__, yeah if it's a supported drive should be all good and if not you probably don't want to run it
[02:15] <bubbasaures> ian__, depends on what you want, I forget how mine is set up to be honest.
[02:17] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: It doesn't seem to give any output
[02:17] <smokeyd> hey all. The ~/Music, ~/Documents, ~/Videos folders aren't in /etc/skel. So how do they get created when I add a user, and how do I change it (substitute with a symlink for instance). I don't want to manually do it per user but do it in the default location like with /etc/skel
[02:19] <gr33n7007h> hmm... strange
[02:19] <chaotix> hey..  are unity lenses being phased out?  There dont seem to be any in the software center in 14.10, so i was just wondering..
[02:19] <Fuchs> smokeyd: .config/user-dirs.dirs
[02:20] <Fuchs> smokeyd: responsible for creating them is the desktop environment you are using
[02:20] <Fuchs> smokeyd: it's a freedesktop thingie
[02:21] <smokeyd> Fuchs, ok. And what if I want to add files to that folder when a user get's created. Like have a default "Documents" folders with a few files in it, but each user does have his/her own folder? That is not possible?
[02:21] <smokeyd> It really is too bad that the desktop environment doesn't just use /etc/skel
[02:22] <Fuchs> smokeyd: it technically is, you could have that created via skel, and then have the file I mentioned before point at it
[02:22] <Fuchs> smokeyd: the desktop environment shouldn't overwrite it if it already does exist
[02:22] <smokeyd> Fuchs: ah, ok
[02:22] <smokeyd> Good point
[02:22] <smokeyd> so I could create it there
[02:22] <smokeyd> thanks
[02:22] <smokeyd> that is a good idea actually
[02:22] <Fuchs> smokeyd: so the only thing you need to do is have that folder created with whatever means you wish (skel, as an example) and then make sure that the XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR (as an example) points to it
[02:22] <Fuchs> smokeyd: you're welcome :)
[02:22] <BigBawb> oops found it
[02:23] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: I looked in the wrong place I apologize
[02:23] <BigBawb> Im new to linux... havent even managed a web connection Im looking through now
[02:23] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, just out of curiousity why you using ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <xangua> chaotix: don't really know about the lenses, but there are a Lot of scopes and half of them I don't even use
[02:26] <devildog31415> can someone point me in the right direction (advise or different channel if necessary) rcv'ing "aborted (core dump)" everytime I  try and save a spreadsheet calculator file (sc command).  don't know how to troubleshoot
[02:26] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: I might not have a good reason at all
[02:26] <bparker> when I try to switch users under the desktop on 14.04, it asks me for a password, but /var/log/auth.log tells me it's trying to login as user 'lightdm' and not the user I'm trying to switch to. Any idea how to fix?
[02:26] <BigBawb> But from what I read the specific adapter I have needs to use it
[02:26] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, is it internal or usb?
[02:27] <bparker> so basically I cannot switch users, ever
[02:27] <BigBawb> usb
[02:27] <BigBawb> I tried first with the b43 thing
[02:27] <chaotix> xangua, i was just curious...  i am going to start using the dash more...  i mostly use synapse and classicmenu-indicator, but i am going to try to go without them for a little while
[02:27] <bparker> and now it's even locked me out of the original user's desktop
[02:27] <BigBawb> but I saw a few posts who said this specific one I have (linksys AE2500) said that ndiswrapper was the solution
[02:28] <BigBawb> followed the instructions and bam it springs to life
[02:28] <BigBawb> Im getting that pastebin right now
[02:29] <gr33n7007h> kk
[02:29] <devildog31415> what is the right channel for a core dump issue?
[02:30] <baos_> have a strange firewall issue where I suddenly can't connect to github.com.  I didn't touch any firewall settings.
[02:30] <baos_> can't get a ping response
[02:30] <baos_> other computer on the same network has no issues.
[02:31] <bparker> baos_: pastebin iptables -nvL
[02:34] <baos_> http://pastebin.com/9ukewJA0
[02:34] <baos_> it's rather empty
[02:34] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: http://hastebin.com/orerabavow.xml
[02:35] <daftykins> baos_: can you ping your router?
[02:35] <bparker> baos_: can you pate output of 'ifconfig'
[02:35] <bparker> paste*
[02:35] <daftykins> nm
[02:35]  * daftykins leaves it to bparker 
[02:35] <baos_> I can ping my router just fine and am online on the computer in question talking to you
[02:36] <baos_> http://pastebin.com/crwjteWi
[02:36] <terratoma> i blew away /boot/grub/grub.conf . what do i do ?
[02:36] <EriC^^> terratoma: sudo update-grub
[02:36] <bparker> terratoma: update-grub
[02:37] <terratoma> thanks
[02:37] <baos_> the gfs computer on the same network has no issues, so it leaves me to ponder whats wrong with this linux.
[02:37] <bparker> I'm assuming your router isn't doing anything special with that computer
[02:37] <CyberAce> HNY guys. =)
[02:37] <baos_> not at all.
[02:38] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, nm-tool | grep -A5 "wlan0"
[02:38] <CyberAce> Whats your IP address?
[02:38] <terratoma> grub.conf didnt get recreated.  maybe its not needed ?
[02:38] <EriC^^> terratoma: it's grub.cfg
[02:38] <wafflej0ck> baos_, you try it by IP 192.30.252.128
[02:39] <baos_> From 192.168.10.2 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
[02:40] <bparker> baos_: traceroute github.com
[02:40] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: along the lines of type:xx.xx. wifi Driver:ndiswrapper State:Disconnected Default: No HWAdress:xxx.xx.xxx
[02:40] <baos_> now the traceroute is interesting.
[02:41] <gr33n7007h> Which guide did you follow this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?
[02:41] <baos_> http://pastebin.com/RxGdMUku
[02:41] <daftykins> baos_: 10.2? but your network is 1.x
[02:41] <bparker> baos_: what is 192.168.10.2 since your ip is 192.168.1.166
[02:42] <bparker> and can you paste "ip route"
[02:43] <baos_> to the best of my knowledge, not an ip on my network.
[02:43] <bparker> daftykins: could be a broken router that responds to traceroute with exterior ip
[02:44] <bparker> you'd have to look at tcpdump of the response to see what MAC address it's from, and check interior IP that way
[02:44] <baos_> hmm, shall I try reconnecting?
[02:44] <bparker> baos_: can you paste 'ip route'
[02:44] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: for installing ndiswrapper or installing the driver?
[02:44] <bparker> if nothing is strange in dmesg, could just try rebooting.
[02:45] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, both
[02:46] <cryptodan> BigBawb: what wireless card do you have as it should have default kernel support
[02:46] <baos_> 192.0.0.0/8 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.10.2  metric 1
[02:46] <baos_> 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.166
[02:46] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: I believe the ndiswrapper was from the site you suggested there
[02:46] <bparker> uhhhh there's your problem
[02:46] <BigBawb> but I had to do offline instructions
[02:46] <bparker> baos_: ip r d 192.0.0.0/8
[02:46] <bparker> fixed.
[02:46] <BigBawb> as for the linksys driver I had trouble but found the solution here
[02:47] <BigBawb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805830&page=13&p=12623937#post12623937
[02:47] <baos_> 64 bytes from github.com (192.30.252.128): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=234 ms
[02:47] <bparker> yup
[02:47] <cryptodan> BigBawb: can you do an lspci and lsusb and dpaste.com the results
[02:47] <baos_> hmm, so.  what exactly happened?
[02:47] <daftykins> hmm funky phantom routes
[02:48] <BigBawb> cryptodan: Sure
[02:48] <BigBawb> one sec
[02:48] <BigBawb> If you're late to my issue its only with a password
[02:48] <bparker> baos_: you had a static route set that forced all connections to IP's starting with 192.x.x.x (including github) to be routed to some random IP that your computer has no idea how to reach.
[02:48] <baos_> very strange.
[02:48] <baos_> glad it's not some kind of malware or virus
[02:49] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: I had to edit the .inf as shown in step 4 of that guide and thats what finally got it working
[02:49] <baos_> thankyou very much for the help
[02:49] <BigBawb> but as you see he says he had password issues that were solved by simply changing the password. Not for me, only removing it
[02:49] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, That's an XP driver, I don't think it's possible to connect to WPA with that driver have you tried using win7/8 driver?
[02:50] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: Will win7 and 8 drivers work with ndiswrapper?
[02:50] <baos_> I'll have to take another look at the routers to see where it could have come from
[02:50] <cryptodan> question is why are you not using the kernel drivers for your card?
[02:51] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, should do
[02:51] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: Alrighty Ill try
[02:52] <baos_> going to reboot to see if it comes back.  thankyou very much for your assistance bparker
[02:52] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, good luck or just buy a cheap wireless usb stick with supported drivers for ubuntu realtek/ralink/atheros
[02:53] <cryptodan> dont forget intel
[02:53] <daftykins> intel went really bad.
[02:53] <daftykins> and in USB? nope
[02:53] <cryptodan> BigBawb: have ya done the lspci / lsusb
[02:54] <cryptodan> I have and will always use Intel Wireless NIC's in my lap tops
[02:54] <BigBawb> yes I just have to switch a flash drive back and forth
[02:54] <BigBawb> I dont think I have a wireless card
[02:55] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, no ethernet you can use in the meanwhile to be on the machine you're debugging and in the chat? would probably make it easier
[02:56] <daftykins> cryptodan: you know they went crap though right? 7xxx series specifically i think
[02:56] <BigBawb> wafflej0ck: This is as close as it gets short of moving my giant desktop around
[02:56] <BigBawb> which is less practical
[02:56] <BigBawb> I got it
[02:57] <cryptodan> Wireless AC is a new protocol so yeah I would expect companies to have issues with that
[02:57] <BigBawb> cryptodan: http://hastebin.com/ijatisuwoh.vhdl
[02:58] <smokeyd> is there a way to run a script for a new user upon first login? I would like to setup some things for a new user that aren't possible with just placing the correct files in /etc/skel
[02:58] <daftykins> cryptodan: no, not even anything to do with ac.
[02:59] <cryptodan> I would imagine that to be so
[02:59] <gr33n7007h> I only use ALFA wireless usb dongles though rather expensive but the best of the best :)
[02:59] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: trying to install the win7 one errored "Cannot find Module: Cisco"
[02:59] <BigBawb> yeah this is just one I use for windows
[02:59] <BigBawb> I wanted to dual boot but its not turning out so great
[03:01] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, I'd scrap ndiswrapper altogether and get a usb nic thats actually works on win/buntu
[03:02] <xangua> BigBawb: with ndiswrapper you need the windows xp drivers, as far as I know
[03:02] <BigBawb> xangua: Yeah thats what I got, the problem is using a password
[03:02] <BigBawb> But it looks like RIP not spending any money
[03:03] <baos> It wasn't the router.  it was something left behind in the wired network settings.  There was no mention of the ip in any tab I could find in the profile.  But a removal of the profile and creation of a new one, the ghost network disappeared.
[03:04] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, is your encryption WPA?
[03:04] <gansteed> how can i creating data structure diagrams in Ubuntu? is there any apps for it?
[03:06] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, have you tried putting your wpa password in as hex instead of ascii?
[03:06] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, there are quite a few apps for diagrams but depends on your exact needs, you may want to check out Dia or Draw in LibreOffice
[03:06] <cryptodan> BigBawb: if this is a desktop here is a card I Would recommend http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106135
[03:06] <gr33n7007h> because xp drivers are old as hell
[03:06] <cryptodan> XP Supports WPA
[03:06] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, if you're doing schema stuff and using MySQL the MySQL workbench is pretty nice and can forward engineer/reverse engineer to/from a diagram/DB
[03:08] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, LibreOffice Draw is nice for more visual stuff but with Dia there are also scripts to export to actual code from the diagrams which can be nice
[03:08] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, i want to represent a tree (data structure)
[03:09] <frankd> is there a replacement for scsi_id in ubuntu 14? or am i somehow missing a package?
[03:09] <frankd> i thought it was part of udev
[03:09] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, yeah really still not sure what the end result is you're looking for, perhaps you just want something like View Your Mind which is like a "tree" mind mapper, what's the goal?
[03:11] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, i wanna draw a diagram like this one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Trie_example.svg/250px-Trie_example.svg.png
[03:12] <bufferloss> how do I swap capslock in unity?
[03:14] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, i've found this one, http://www.graphviz.org/
[03:14] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, yeah was just looking at that too, looking for a GUI for it but not sure that one exists aside from this KDE based one for viewing
[03:16] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, :D
[03:17] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, looks pretty easy to use though really
[03:19] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, yeah, i'm looking for a tutorial
[03:20] <wafflej0ck> yeah would be nice if there was something like ReText (markdown editor with live preview) for this so you can just see the output in a GUI... I need to learn to write desktop GUI apps and not complain though I suppose
[03:20] <BigBawb> anyone got a good usb wifi adapter they could suggest?
[03:20] <BigBawb> cheap and one that works
[03:21] <bubbasaures> BigBawb, amazon...etc have gobs listed as linux and ubuntu friendly cheap.
[03:23] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, nothing, graphviz is easy enough
[03:23] <gansteed> live preview is not necessary for me
[03:25] <jrg> heh. i give up on ubuntu on this tf101
[03:25] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, yeah looks like the definition is simple enough to not mess it up in most cases but I like GUIs :D this should do the trick though, so happy diagramming
[03:25] <gansteed> :D
[03:25] <jrg> anybody know of a good arm based laptop that ubuntu can actually run on without issue?
[03:26] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, How much you willing to spend?
[03:26] <wafflej0ck> jrg, hmm think getting the packages all compiled for ARM that you'd want is the issue no? why the requirement for ARM architecture?
[03:27] <bparker> how do you install 14.04 on a laptop when it's running on battery? the installer refuses to continue and I cannot plug it in.
[03:27] <jrg> fanless and lasts longer than any x86 i know of
[03:27] <bparker> jrg: anything that runs android or chromeos will run ubuntu
[03:27] <bparker> they're all using Linux anyway
[03:27] <bparker> and same drivers
[03:28] <wafflej0ck> jrg, yeah not sure, was looking at some PBX systems but they were ARM based and saw it was hard to find some packages compiled for ARM processors and didn't want to fight it myself so didn't get it
[03:28] <jrg> bparker: doesn't seem to be the case with the tf101 ;)
[03:28] <jrg> but then again the tf101 was crap with android on it as well
[03:28] <jrg> not to mention there seems to always be closed blobs
[03:28] <jrg> especially when it comes to gps, cams, sensors, etc
[03:28] <jrg> so you always wind up with something not working
[03:29] <jrg> i was hoping to find something actually designed for it
[03:29] <wafflej0ck> jrg, yeah driver blobs :( unfortunately hardware manufacturers aren't the best about providing source or any info so things have to be reverse engineered
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> oh yeah it was the pro version of the fax extension module that didn't have ARM support... was trying to think because my RasPi runs FreePBX right now and is ARM based too
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> yeah so it's doable they had debian wheezy I think to make the RasPi raspbian images but I haven't tried a DIY approach to that was just flashing images
[03:33] <jrg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCUoxGTLgbE
[03:33] <jrg> i wonder if that works
[03:33] <jrg> i'm sure google probably found a way for that to not work nowadays
[03:33] <jrg> heh
[03:33] <jrg> oh that's kind of a totally lame way to do it
[03:34] <jrg> i wodner if you have to start chromeos and start it from the term all the time or if there is a way to start it by default
[03:35] <wafflej0ck> sorry for the ot but will leave it at this, downloaded ChromeOS to test it out the other day only to find I had downloaded a very large copy of Chrome :)
[03:35] <xangua> why not a 'regular' laptop? jrg
[03:36] <jrg> xangua: as i said earlier
[03:37] <jrg> i want fanless arm for no fan + battery longevity
[03:37] <jrg> "always on" would be neat too
[03:37] <jrg> vs suspend/hibernate usually used by x86 methods
[03:38] <jrg> too bad it is impossible to install ubuntu on a surface rt
[03:38] <jrg> that thing would be awesome to have ubuntu on
[03:38] <jrg> especially since windows rt was just so.... horrible
[03:39] <daftykins> bit off topic there, jrg
[03:42] <jrg> daftykins: well... it had GREAT battery life and the type version keyboard cover was great... the OS was just horrible. i wished i could install ubuntu or some other linux on it heh
[03:42] <SchrodingersScat> !ot
[03:42] <jrg> and i mean i don't hate windows for the sake of hating windows but omg. i hope they fired the entire division that came up with that 8/8.1
[03:42] <daftykins> jrg: yeah, still off topic. take it to the above channel please.
[04:08] <C1V0> Does Github Pages have built-in support for handlebars templates? If not is there a config or directive I can set that'll load handlebars?
[04:08] <gry> ask #github or their support email
[04:09] <C1V0> Oops. Wrong tab! Sorry.
[04:09] <gry> that's alright
[04:09] <Flynn|> Happy new Year :)
[04:09] <gry> likewise; enjoy
[04:24] <clumsy_bot> Is there a manual method for creating a LiveUSB whilst still being able to utilise any leftover space on the drive?
[04:25] <clumsy_bot> I found some old Ubuntu docs that seem to suggest you can create a #1 storage partition and then a #2 partition just large enough to hold the contents for LiveUSB.
[04:26] <daftykins> !persistence
[04:26] <daftykins> clumsy_bot: that one? ;) i would think persistence comes after the live boot image
[04:26] <Bashing-om> clumsy_bot: Persistence ? see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent .
[04:26] <clumsy_bot> Not persistence.
[04:26] <daftykins> oh sorry just for other space
[04:27] <daftykins> yeah swap it, live image at the start... storage after
[04:27] <daftykins> simples.
[04:27] <clumsy_bot> So do I dd the secondary partition on the said drive?
[04:27] <clumsy_bot> Or it is preferable to use cp instead of dd?
[04:30] <jaddison> Why do I get this error when I do apt-get update? "E: Method gave invalid 103 Redirect message
[04:30] <jaddison> It "breaks" aptitude too.
[04:31] <jaddison> (ie. a big red box shows up)
[04:36] <tekkbuzz> jaddison: are you using sudo?
[04:37] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ah the temporary use of an admin account
[04:40] <tekkbuzz> jaddison: looks like a sources.list mirror problem.
[04:47] <frankd> yurgh
[04:47] <frankd> how do i get multipath iSCSI working right?
[04:48] <frankd> http://pastebin.com/gCyiy09m
[04:49] <frankd> it looks like its just working in failover mode instead of striping
[04:49] <frankd> only one ethernet interface sees traffic
[05:00] <bparker> how in the **** do you change the mirror used during install
[05:02] <EriC^^> bparker: what for
[05:02] <EriC^^> bparker: i suppose if you choose a different timezone it will pick a different mirror
[05:03] <bparker> EriC^^: because the mirror it uses doesn't work
[05:03] <bparker> or if it does, it's so slow that it's pointless
[05:03] <bparker> it never asks me for a timezone
[05:03] <EriC^^> which country are you from
[05:03] <bparker> it seems to pick the mirror from the language you choose
[05:03] <EriC^^> bparker: sure it does
[05:03] <EriC^^> no
[05:03] <bparker> I'm in USA but the language is set to Japanese
[05:04] <bparker> so it tries to use mirror in japan and the install will never finish
[05:04] <EriC^^> not really
[05:04] <bparker> what do you mean not really
[05:04] <EriC^^> i mean it doesnt use that for the mirror
[05:05] <bparker> I guess the installer telling me that it uses "ja.archive.ubuntu.com" and netstat/tcpdump/etc. confirming that it's going to japan... is all a lie then?
[05:05] <EriC^^> yes
[05:05] <bparker> um no
[05:06] <bparker> I can clearly see that it's trying to download packages from a mirror in japan
[05:07] <EriC^^> clearly not
[05:07] <bparker> clearly so
[05:07] <EriC^^> it's jp.archive
[05:07] <bparker> ......
[05:07] <bparker> dude, what the fuck ever
[05:07] <bparker> it's not in the US, that's all that matters
[05:07] <EriC^^> i'm saying your lying
[05:07] <bparker> I can't believe you're hung up on a single letter typo that doesn't matter
[05:07] <EriC^^> it's not using your keyboard layout for the mirror
[05:07] <bparker> fine, it's jp.archive
[05:07] <EriC^^> whatever
[05:07] <bparker> EriC^^: yes I know this
[05:08] <bparker> it's using the UI language I selected at the beginning of the installer
[05:08] <EriC^^> it uses your timezone
[05:08] <bparker> I never set a timezone.
[05:08] <bparker> it never asked
[05:08] <bparker> so that's wrong
[05:08] <EriC^^> which ubuntu are you installing
[05:08] <bparker> 14.04 desktop
[05:08]  * EriC^^ humors you
[05:08] <EriC^^> ubuntu?
[05:09] <bparker> yes
[05:09] <bparker> I'm in #ubuntu aren't I
[05:09] <EriC^^> i meant lubuntu or...?
[05:09]  * bparker waits for 'no'
[05:09] <bparker> ubuntu
[05:09] <EriC^^> ok.
[05:09] <bparker> regular ubuntu
[05:09] <EriC^^> you never get a globe picture
[05:09] <bparker> no
[05:09] <EriC^^> where you select your timezone
[05:09] <bparker> negative
[05:09] <EriC^^> which iso did you download
[05:10] <bparker> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:12] <EriC^^> do you have a eye sight condition?
[05:12] <bparker> no?
[05:15] <EriC^^> bparker: it should be there
[05:17] <bparker> EriC^^: what should
[05:18] <EriC^^> http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Select-Installation-Timezone.jpeg
[05:21] <EriC^^> bparker: ring any bells?
[05:30] <bparker> EriC^^: that was never there during the install
[05:30] <bparker> I see it when trying to change the time zone after an install though
[05:30] <lickalott> gents, when I run a showmount -a I see mounts to my server from an internal class C address that doesn't currently exist on my network.  <-- that's 1.
[05:32] <lickalott> #2 is; I had to rebuild my windows box (reload OS) and now I can't access the NFS mounts from my ubuntu server without changing permissions for the world to 5.  it wasn't like this before the rebuild.  I don't want to leave all that stuff open like that.  Any ideas?
[05:38] <Bender|> I know this ain't the place to ask such questions, but sometimes (yes sometimes), when I exit my application I get errors like XIO Fatal Error 11, Bad Window, and [xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue [xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that. r3x_vm.out: ../../src/xcb_io.c:274: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' fa
[05:38] <Bender|> stuff like that.
[05:38] <Bender|> And yes, I'm running on ubuntu 14.04 lts
[05:38] <kuby64> same here
[05:39] <cfhowlett> Bender|> I know this ain't the place to ask such questions,  >>> then proceeds to ask anyway ...
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !server | lickalott, might ask the other channel
[05:41] <bparker> Bender|: do you call XInitThreads() before creating any windows?
[05:44] <lickalott> i'll try cfhowlett.  I've been in there in the past.  It seems to be a zombie channel.  Thanks though!
[05:44] <cfhowlett> lickalott, perhaps ##linux as well
[05:50] <michael__> hi
[05:50] <michael__> how can i download movie on ubuntu system
[05:51] <cfhowlett> michael__  legally?
[05:51] <Guest6480> how can i download movie on ubuntu?
[05:54] <kuby64> Guest6480> I do not know
[05:54] <kuby64> but from what i do know is that there is a site that i have found recently
[05:55] <lickalott> define "download movie"
[05:55] <LinuxGold> michael__: google search for it.
[05:55] <Seveas> Guest67293: wget http://url/to/movie.avi. Or with a browser (firefox comes by default, chromium is available)
[05:55] <cfhowlett> guest6480 go to www.archive.org        find a movie, dowload.  easy
[05:55] <kuby64> im not going to spoil it because i do not want to get banned or something
[05:55] <Seveas> kuby64: very good.
[05:55] <kuby64> thank you
[05:56] <Seveas> !warez
[05:56] <LinuxGold> wait, you can find it in /dev/null -- so many things in there.
[05:56] <kuby64> you think so, LinuxGold?
[05:56] <LinuxGold> why not? :D
[05:57] <lickalott> lol
[05:57] <LinuxGold> it's like a foundation of youth.
[05:58]  * LinuxGold gotta shut up and get back to subject.
[05:58] <kuby64> well, good luck with that
[06:02] <Guest35889> do you guys prefer panel on top of screen or bottom?
[06:03] <LinuxGold> I prefer CLI
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Guest35889, our preferences don't matter - set your system for YOU
[06:04] <kuby64> I would like to prefer both
[06:04] <kuby64> because it reminds me like a Nintendo DS
[06:05] <LinuxGold> Be a man, console all the way baby!
[06:05] <kuby64> yep
[06:05] <kuby64> :)
[06:20] <zero56> Is there any performance difference if i install ubuntu along side windows? or a partistion.
[06:20] <ram_> hi
[06:21] <cfhowlett> zero56, to install along side windows MEANS into a partition ... question is unclear
[06:21] <jamie_> hey can i ask y'all a question
[06:21] <glob> zero56: no it's the same
[06:21] <Seveas> cfhowlett: maybe he means in a VM?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !ask | jamie_,
[06:21] <Seveas> jamie_: sure!
[06:21] <Ameex> hi
[06:21] <Ameex> anyone there
[06:21] <zero56> ok
[06:21] <glob> zero56: he means the question in the installer
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !ask | Ameex,
[06:22] <zero56> Thanks
[06:22] <jamie_> im having a problem with java running when nothing is running on java at all at the time and running up my cpu temp
[06:22] <LinuxGold> "no question is a stupid question"
[06:22] <LinuxGold> :D
[06:22] <Seveas> jamie_: how do you know it's a java problem?
[06:24] <jamie_> Seveas: yes, i have checked with task manager, and for no apparent reason it starts to use 25% of my cpu, which for a i5 is unresonable
[06:24] <Seveas> jamie_: which java-based app is doing this?
[06:25] <jamie_> Seveas: it is not apparent, i am only running thunder bird, and firefox wed developer, and i only have bugzilla open
[06:26] <ram_> how to transfer files to a mobile device in ubuntu without using data cable
[06:27] <cfhowlett> ram_, mobile = android?  airdroid
[06:27] <ram_> androidd
[06:27] <jamie_> Seveas: in the task manager all it says is java, and im not sure if there is a way to track from there where it is being run
[06:31] <ram_> hw to get splashtop streamer free?
[06:32] <jamie_> ram_: have you tried team viewer?
[06:32] <Rijack> I'm having a problem where apt seems to be trusting everything regardless of authentication, how can I change this
[06:33] <cfhowlett> ram_, come on man.  A TINY bit of effort will answer most questions: http://www.splashtop.com/downloads
[06:36] <jamie_> Rijack: are you in superuser or root by any chance?
[06:36] <Rijack> no
[06:38] <jamie_> could you explain a little bit more in depth of what is happening?
[06:39] <jfr3> hey
[06:39] <jfr3> need help
[06:40] <jfr3> W:Failed to fetch http://debian.tagancha.org/debian/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  Undetermined Error
[06:40] <cfhowlett> jfr3, try a different mirro
[06:40] <Rijack> so I added a ppa from launchpad but forget to the key. then i went to install and it says the package cant be authenticated but continues to install like its no big deal
[06:40] <cfhowlett> *mirror
[06:41] <jfr3> how
[06:41] <Rijack> the only way i could stop it was to kill the task
[06:41] <jamie_> Rijack: take a look at this  https://lists.debian.org/deity/2014/05/msg00127.html
[06:44] <jfr3> so I ran apt-get update
[06:44] <jfr3> I get a whole bunch of errors
[06:44] <jfr3> root@FlashBox:~# apt-get update
[06:44] <jfr3> Ign http://debian.scribus.net trusty InRelease
[06:44] <jfr3> Ign http://debian.tagancha.org trusty InRelease
[06:44] <jfr3> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease
[06:44] <jfr3> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease
[06:44] <unopaste> jfr3 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:45] <jfr3>   
[06:45] <jfr3> Err http://debian.scribus.net trusty/main i386 Packages
[06:46] <jfr3>   
[06:46] <jfr3> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages
[06:46] <jfr3>   
[06:46] <jfr3> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe i386 Packages
[06:46] <jfr3>   
[06:46] <jfr3> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages
[06:46] <unopaste> jfr3 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:47] <jfr3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:47] <jfr3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:47] <blackyboy> I have a single network interface eth0, Now i have bridged to br0, We have two internet providers one ISP using modem IP 192.168.1.1 other ISP modem IP was 192.168.2.1 now when ever my internet goes down in any one of the ISP it was to access other one how can i configure ? DId i want to configure interface settings ?
[06:47] <jfr3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:47] <jfr3> my errors with apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:48] <jamie_> Rijack: did you make any changes to apt-utils at all?
[06:48] <Rijack> ok its doing that except with a binary
[06:48] <jfr3> any clues
[06:48] <Rijack> i dont know where to find apt utils
[06:49] <jamie_> Rijack: then that would be a no, what version are you using?
[06:49] <jfr3> I think I broke updates after installing kubuntu trusty 14.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:50] <Rijack> 14.10
[06:50] <jamie_> Rijack: same, I tried to do the same from what you said of downloading and installing a ppa: and it made me run it a sudo if it was not in SU mode in the terminal
[06:52] <Rijack> k i was running from software center  i will try in terminal
[06:53] <jamie_> let me try the software center to, if it happens on my end to a bug would need to be filed
[06:54] <jamie_> Rijack: what ppa: are you trying to install
[06:54] <jfr3> sribus
[06:54] <jfr3> scribus
[06:57] <jamie_> jfr3: what were you saying?
[06:57] <jfr3> my updates are not wroking
[06:57] <jfr3> working
[06:57] <jamie_> okay what is it saying? and what are you doing exactaly?
[06:57] <Rijack> Stefan Achatz from launchpad.  command line asked me to confirm the install, I would prefer it to return an error
[06:57] <jfr3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:58] <Rijack> the gui just went straight ahead
[06:58] <jamie_> Rijack: one sec
[06:59] <jfr3> eading package lists... Done
[06:59] <jfr3> Building dependency tree
[06:59] <jfr3> Reading state information... Done
[06:59] <jfr3> E: Unable to locate package scribus
[06:59] <jamie_> jfr3: first off that is most of the ubuntu repositories to start with, second what type of machine are you on?
[06:59] <jfr3> sudo apt-get install scribus
[06:59] <Rijack> here the actual url: http://ppa.launchpad.net/berfenger/roccat/ubuntu
[06:59] <jfr3> kubuntu running trusty 14.04
[07:00] <jamie_> jfr3: one sec
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !ppa | jfr3
[07:01] <jamie_> Rijack: are you doing it via a downloaded file of bz2 or gz?
[07:03] <jamie_> Rijack: is it libgaminggear?
[07:03] <jamie_> jef3: what type of computer do you have?
[07:04] <Rijack> no I added it to my sources and the used SC, and it is roccat-tools which depends on libgaminggear
[07:05] <jamie_> Rijack: when you went to add the source did it require the password?
[07:05] <Rijack> yes
[07:06] <jamie_> Okay, odd request, try to add a seperate ppa: via terminal?
[07:08] <jamie_> Rijack: try this one and tell me what it does without using sudo
[07:09] <jfr3> running Linux FlashBox 3.13.0-39-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28 13:31:23 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:10] <jfr3> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[07:10] <jamie_> i mean the actuall computer itself
[07:10] <jfr3> lenovo sl500 thinkpad
[07:11] <jfr3> running over wifi
[07:11] <sonicfan4562> hi
[07:13] <Rijack> jamie it returns "Error: must run as root"
[07:14] <jfr3> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> Hello, I've a bit of an issue
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> running kubuntu 14.10
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> Mouse doesn't work
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> can move it
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> Will sometimes click on things
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> other times won't
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> won't click outside of active apps
[07:15] <jamie_> Rijack: okay, then it is due to that you added it to the sources list probably, some of the ppa: if its on the source list i may not ask from my expirience. I would recomend doing your usual and if it ever happens again file a bug report
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> will only selectively click on things in browser
[07:16] <soee> whatisthisissue0: please try to write in 1-2 lines :)
[07:16] <whatisthisissue0> I am sorry!
[07:16] <whatisthisissue0> It should be told that I am new at linux
[07:17] <Mathis> hey
[07:17] <jfr3> hey jamie, looks like I entered right in the middle of you other discussion
[07:17] <jamie_> Rijack: **may not ask from my expiriences with 10 through 14.2
[07:17] <jamie_> jfr3: im good at multi tasking
[07:17] <jfr3> cool
[07:18] <Mathis> is there any way to put all currently available updates on a USB thumbdrive and install them unattended on a client having no network connection?
[07:18] <jamie_> jfr3: your computer probably cant handle that, it is a highes origional of vista for the newest one that was made
[07:18] <Rijack> where would i go if i want to see the trust settings. i assumed it was similar to pacman but i couldnt find a apt.conf or anything
[07:19] <jfr3> I have vista sticker on the laptop chassis
[07:19] <jamie_> Rijack: one sec let me doubble check before I give you an answer
[07:20] <jamie_> yea, i couldnt even get a vista based computer to run lubuntu 12.04 and that is a lot more light weight than kubuntu
[07:20] <whatisthisissue0> Does anyone know when a new update will be available?
[07:23] <jamie_> whatisthisissue0: so your mouse is being fuzzy? not working properly?
[07:23] <whatisthisissue0> I can move it around, it will work selectively in active apps. Computer won't register clicks, and will sometimes be stuck on right click or something to that effect.
[07:24] <whatisthisissue0> I tried switching drivers, updating drivers, running xev.
[07:24] <whatisthisissue0> This is not a hardware issue, as far as I'm aware. I'm like 90% sure.
[07:25] <traekili> it is
[07:25] <whatisthisissue0> How could I test this?
[07:26] <jamie_> take it and try it on another computer?
[07:26] <whatisthisissue0> The keyboard?
[07:26] <whatisthisissue0> I don't have a mouse, I use my touchpad/laptop clicker things
[07:27] <we6jbo> Hi
[07:27] <we6jbo> I have a question
[07:27] <jamie_> well it could be anything from a lose connection to something stuck under the actuall butto
[07:27] <whatisthisissue0> All three? The top buttons/touchpad and bottom buttons? Lenovo W510
[07:28] <jamie_> one sec let me do a search
[07:28] <jamie_> Rijack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[07:28] <whatisthisissue0> Kk
[07:28] <jamie_> Rijack: check that out, see if that helps
[07:28] <Rijack> k thx
[07:29] <we6jbo> I have a question
[07:29] <Poss_> Hi there, just wondering if there is anyway to figure out which applications are taking up Vram?
[07:29] <traekili> top Poss_
[07:30] <Poss_> oh sorry wrong acronym,  i meant video ram rather than virtual ram
[07:30] <jamie_> whatisthisissue0: what operating system did it have origionaly?
[07:31] <traekili> same applies, just top Poss_
[07:31] <whatisthisissue0> jamie_: Windows 7
[07:31] <whatisthisissue0> jame_: I think, I inherited it with Debian on it
[07:32] <jamie_> whatisthisissue0: you need to get a shorter name.....
[07:33] <jamie_> whatisthisissue0: okay, one other question, somewhere on that computer it should tell you what processor it has in it?
[07:34] <Poss_> thanks traekill, but i don't see anything relating to graphics card usage there or in the manual
[07:35] <Poss_> i am on ubuntu-gnome 14.04 using nvidia 346.22 and i am currently using 79% of my GTX570 with nothing running.
[07:35] <jamie_> Poss_: are you trying to see what is running the most % or just general percent used on average?
[07:36] <kylie667> intel core vpro i7-720QM
[07:36] <jamie_> Poss_: dissregard last message, if you want to see what is running  in % or your cpu power, use the application of task manager
[07:36] <jamie_> kylie667: did you change your name?
[07:37] <kylie667> jamie_: Yes
[07:37] <Poss_> jamie_  I'd like to see a run down of how much of my graphics card's dedicated memory is being used by each application.  Nvidia settings displays the total percentage use, but it doesn't break it down by application.
[07:37] <jamie_> kylie667: thanks, sorry that was getting hard to type
[07:38] <Poss_> top breaks down the memory and cpu usage of each application, but not the graphics card memory usage.
[07:38] <jamie_> Poss_: have you google it by any chance?
[07:38] <jamie_> okay one sec y'all I'll be right back need to do something
[07:38] <kylie667> jamie_: No obligation to us, you're a superhero
[07:39] <jamie_> kylie66: what lol??
[07:40] <Poss_> indeed I have jamie_ as far as i can tell there are very limited graphics card monitoring software on linux in general. there are things like im-sensors, but that again tells me total usage statistics and temperatures,  which gives me no more information than nvidia settings
[07:40] <kylie667> jamie_: You've no obligation to do this,  yet you still do! That is superhero patience and kidness.
[07:40] <jamie_> I love computers, and i have been using ubuntu since 9
[07:47] <jamie_> kylie667: do you have both a track point and touchpad?
[07:48] <kylie667> Yes
[07:48] <jamie_> Rijack: did that answer you question?
[07:48] <jamie_> kylie667: do both of them have the same problem?
[07:49] <kylie667> Yes
[07:49] <jamie_> kylie667: are you currently on it?
[07:50] <kylie667> jamie_: http://tinyurl.com/nbpm4vz and yes I am on stupid laptop
[07:51] <jamie_> Poss_: are you talking about the Nvidia x server?
[07:53] <Poss_> nvidia-settings is the application I'm referencing
[07:54] <jamie_> jfr3: some computers cant handle some of the actual drivers in the newer versions of the ubuntu distros, try using an older version of kubuntu if that is the one you are wanting to use, if not try lubuntu 12.04 or 10.04 i know for a fact it will run lubuntu 10.04
[07:57] <jamie_> Poss_: find somting called Nvidia x server settings and look through that and see if there is a monitor in there
[07:57] <jamie_> kylie667: one sec im still doing some research on the laptop
[07:58] <kylie667> jamie_: It's okay, I'm just happy that you're helping. I'm doing some crazy Googling atm as well
[07:58] <jamie_> kylie667: consulting the all mighty guru of google!!!
[07:59] <kylie667> jamie_: check it out https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/W-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/W510-Trackpoint-and-TouchPad-problems/td-p/1287363
[07:59] <kylie667> Everyone has such similar issues, and no answers
[08:00] <Tech> ???
[08:00] <Tech> What is this? LOL
[08:01] <jamie_> kylie667: have you tried the   fn f8   ?
[08:02] <jamie_> Tech: whats up?
[08:02] <kylie667> jamie_: Holy crap (is swearing bad on IRC?)
[08:02] <kylie667> So, the touchpad is screwing with my computer? What's up with that?
[08:03] <jamie_> Tech: not that i know of but people avoid it due to you have no clue what age some of the people are on
[08:03] <jamie_> Tech: why the holy crap?
[08:03] <kylie667> jamie_: That was me, the fn f8 worked
[08:04] <kylie667> no trackpad, but now my clicker functions perfectly
[08:04] <kylie667> so I'm wondering what sort of connection is there
[08:04] <jamie_> kylie667: well theres your solution!
[08:04] <kylie667> jamie_: Well, it's some kind of solution. I'm going to figure out what the underlying problem may be.
[08:05] <jamie_> kylie667: do you know much about internals at all?
[08:05] <kylie667> jamie_: Not a clue. :x But that's what Google is for
[08:06] <jamie_> kylie667: lol so true that is how i learned a lot about computers and through trial and error, I would sugest that you make sure you fully understand the directions/ steps to take apart and to reassemble before you do so that you dont damage anything
[08:08] <kylie667> jamie_: One thing I love about Lenovo is that they link extremely extensive take apart instructions for every model of laptop they sell
[08:09] <jamie_> kylie667: when you take off the keyboard there will be a flat wire for the touch pointer, you will want to check the connection, you will know that it is the touch pointer due to the flat wire for the keyboard itself is wider
[08:10] <kylie667> jamie_: Noted, thanks much
[08:11] <jamie_> kylie667: no problem any time, if you need anything see if im on, most of the time you will find me on moznet though
[08:12] <jamie_> Tech: by the way, did you need anything? and yet again what was with the holy crap?
[08:14] <jamie_> Poss_: did you find what you needed in there?
[08:14] <Tech> I was searching on how to configure remmina remote desktop xDD it got me here
[08:15] <Poss_> not yet jamie_, thankyou.
[08:15] <jamie_> Poss_: im still looking for something for you.
[08:16] <jamie_> Tech: remmina in particular??
[08:16] <Tech> Remmina Remote desktop: Bulit in for Ubuntu 14.14 LTS
[08:16] <Tech> *built in
[08:17] <jamie_> Tech: have you tried to just install team viewer? that is what i use all of the time, and it works wonders
[08:18] <Tech> Tried it but the remote client can terminate connection anytime he wants
[08:19] <jamie_> Tech: ????? if you dont mind me asking what are you using it for?
[08:19] <Tech> I need something that the remote client wont notice.. Thanks though =)
[08:19] <jamie_> Tech: there are ways to set it up so you always have access
[08:19] <Poss_> Thanks jamie_ I wouldn't worry too much, I don't think its actually a ubuntu problem, and I'm asking over in #gnome.   I only popped in to see if ubuntu had any tools for monitoring graphics usage on a per app basis.
[08:20] <Tech> It's for office xDD Im a Tech support.. But I'm much more specialized in hardware.. Not much ideas about software configurations
[08:21] <jamie_> Poss_: https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-system-management-interface
[08:22] <jamie_> Tech: well i can do some searching for you if you want?
[08:23] <Tech> Hmmm.. Thanks man, You can help me if you want but I dont wanna Bother someone I just met here xDD
[08:23] <jamie_> I have just about masted the art of google! hahahaha
[08:24] <wafflej0ck> Tech, what's the problem exactly?
[08:24] <jamie_> Tech: this is what i enjoy doing
[08:24] <wafflej0ck> Tech, Remmina works for RDP, have used it to remote into windows servers before
[08:24] <jamie_> between this and mozilla
[08:24] <Tech> Waffle: I cant connect Remmina here. Im Using Ubuntu LTS 14.04
[08:25] <tomhardy> i have about 20 backups of hard drives all from different times containing files at various points
[08:25] <Tech> It Says: Failed to star up SSH Session: Success
[08:25] <tomhardy> i'd like to sort it out and create a single collection.. what software can i get to analyze all the files, identify duplicate files and folders
[08:26] <wafflej0ck> Tech, not sure about that message you have RDP selected in the protocol?
[08:27] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, haven't used it but this appears to fit the bill http://rdiff-backup.nongnu.org/
, It says Keyboard Layout: Auto Detect
[08:27] <tomhardy> yeah not quite what i want.. more sort of something that will go through and say this folder is identical to that folder
[08:28] <tomhardy> that file is identical to that file kinda thing
[08:28] <jamie_> Tech: i found this http://www.7tutorials.com/connecting-windows-remote-desktop-ubuntu#main-content if it helps
[08:28] <Tech> Thanks man
[08:29] <jamie_> Tech: no problem, if that dosent help just say and Ill keep looking
[08:29] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, perhaps something like this http://www.scootersoftware.com/features.php
[08:29] <Poss_> Thanks jamie, I had tried the base command, looking through the advanced documentation, looks like there may be commands which will get what I'm after
[08:30] <tomhardy> wafflej0ck: thanks but wont' work either.. the folders dont' neccessaryly have the same structure
[08:30] <tomhardy> actually i might grab that anyway
[08:30] <tomhardy> just in case i have to do it manually
[08:31] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, hmm in the case of files being different places think you'd need something that runs a hash on the files and compares those to tell you what's different
[08:31] <jamie_> Poss_: no problem, glad to be of service, mozilla is rather dead right now
[08:31] <tomhardy> wafflej0ck: yeh
[08:31] <tomhardy> or mount the drive exteranlly and use some osx app to do it
[08:32] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, you know any programming?
[08:32] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, you could probably code this up without too much effort in quite a few things if there's nothing out there
[08:32] <tomhardy> yh, 20yrs+ :)
[08:32] <tomhardy> yeah i was thinking that
[08:32] <tomhardy> loop through the dirs.. get hashes
[08:32] <wafflej0ck> yeah just store a dictionary with paths or something
[08:32] <jamie_> odd question about this situation... how are you running an osx app on ubuntu????
[08:33] <tomhardy> although in my experience .. these projets usually take a few days :)
[08:33] <tomhardy> jamie_: mount the ubuntu drive over the network
[08:33] <jamie_> tomhardy: and a lot of processing power
[08:33] <tomhardy> using sshfs
[08:33] <wafflej0ck> I think I could roll it in Java pretty quick really, I used to have a few maven plugins that did the folder traversal part with that out of the way it's not much more work
[08:33] <jamie_> oh... i thought you meant on the ubuntu itself
[08:35] <tomhardy> cheers yeah you might be right
[08:35] <tomhardy> need to code something up
[08:37] <jamie_> that would be awesome to run a .dmg file directly on ubuntu though.. just not verry logical in my opnion
[08:38] <ram_> In windows it's possible to connect two laptops using homegroup & share data wen i try to do the same between two laptops with ubuntu os i can't access the hard drive of the second guy's laptop
[08:38] <jamie_> are you using eithernet?
[08:39] <Svetlana> "can't access" isn't very specific, please describe what happens and where you get stuck exactly
[08:39] <ram_> no wifi
[08:40] <Svetlana> more detail, do you see it in the list of computers on the network, what happens when you click it, etc
[08:41] <Poss_> ram_ have you tried samba?
[08:41] <ram_> i can see his laptop name in my network tab bt wen i choose his laptop it asks for credentials even though i give t right credentials i can't see any of his documents, videos,
[08:41] <jamie_> Poss_ that is what i was about to say
[08:42] <wafflej0ck> Tech, not sure what you're looking at really use imgur to share images or pastebin for text
[08:44] <ram_> i'm installing samba
[08:44] <Tech> My problem is identifying my SSH keys :/
[08:45] <Poss_> ram_ windows intentionally doesn't play well with other operating systems, and it often takes a bit of fiddling to get a network up and running.  Samba is the application used to set up shared directories between windows and linux.  While it works quickly sometimes, sometimes it takes a lot of configuration.  For one off sharing, unfortunately external drives can sometimes be a quicker solution.
[08:45] <ram_> does it also work for file transfer b/w  pc & laptop sharing ethernet?
[08:45] <jamie_> well, I almost forgot the reason I got on here earlier to start with
[08:46] <jamie_> ram_: if doing diriect you want a crossover cable instead of a eithernet cable
[08:47] <jamie_> e.g. one computer into another
[08:47] <ram_> thx guys let me try all ur ideas one by one
[08:48] <jamie_> oh and by the way, has there been any resolution found to the nvidia drivers not working on 14.10 yet, i can really find any current information
[08:48] <Poss_> ram_ good luck.
[08:49] <jamie_> its making my gpu go insane right now
[08:51] <jamie_> okay... thats odd, i went to do a manual check for updates and it returned with failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[08:51] <jamie_> I tripple checked
[08:52] <Poss_> jamie_ which driver version? the bug says its fixed for 331
[08:52] <jamie_> 3100m
[08:54] <Poss_> jamie_ is this the bug you're experiencing? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1363408
[08:56] <jamie_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates/+bug/1268257 but for 14.10 and when i go through the crash report and submit it it for some odd reason say that its a bug on 14.04
[08:57] <Poss_> jamie_ my general advice for fixing nvidia driver issues is to add the nvidia-edgers ppa and then update to the newer version, the ubuntu versions are often way behind.
[08:57] <ram_> unlock key ring wat does this mean? i often get a pop up stating this msg
[08:59] <Poss_> ram_ it means you've changed your login password since install, but not changed your other passwords.  look here http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/18/enter-password-to-unlock-your-keyring-prompt-in-ubuntu/
[09:00] <jamie_> Poss_: i use x.org x server one, it seems to do rendering better, but for some odd reason after switching to 14.10 about a month or two ago, it dosent seem to work the same and respond with crash reports and errors a lot
[09:01] <White_Cat> I get invalid arch-independent ELF magic when trying to boot
[09:02] <jamie_> well a lot of things for no good reason crash in general on 14.10, but a lot when it comes to rendering
[09:02] <White_Cat> I have been following http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:03] <Caleb--> is it possible to display some kind of a graphical messagebox from the shell?
[09:03] <Caleb--> i have a script that is run in the background, and upon an error i'd like a msgbox to be shown on screen, because otherwise i have no way of knowing
[09:04] <jamie_> well, im gonna try to figure this out tomorrow, I still have to finish and update bug reports for mozilla and its already 4 am
[09:04] <Poss_> White_Cat, that message usually indicates a corrupted grub install, have a look at this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18120835/debian-grub-rescue-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic
[09:05] <jamie_> well Poss_ i hope you found what you need, If not I'll be more than happy to help you some more tomorrow!
[09:06] <Poss_> Caleb--  is "echo" insufficient?  http://linuxcommand.org/wss0150.php
[09:06] <Poss_> jamie,  yes thank you :)
[09:06] <jamie_> i need to find a better bed time then 6 am......
[09:07] <Poss_> or just move to a better time zone? :)
[09:07] <jamie_> well, that might work to, but then the earliest would be 3 am.. still aint the best sleep habit
[09:07] <Poss_> only 8pm in australia mate, thats a fine bedtime
[09:08] <jamie_> like i said, i still have bug reports to file, and I have been up since 8 am, and i didnt get much help with anything on firefox os today with the dam reports... so this outta be fun
[09:10] <Poss_> I'm sure it'll look better after some sleep
[09:10] <jamie_> yea... i want to get them done before the rest of mozilla wakes up...
[09:12] <jamie_> at least i have fun with my computer work!!!!!!
[09:12] <White_Cat> Poss_ err I am strugling with that
[09:12] <ararob> work today? suckerz
[09:13] <White_Cat> I tried typing apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc-bin grub-pc
[09:13] <White_Cat> its telling me reinstallaiton is not possible
[09:13] <White_Cat> I botted with live cd
[09:13] <White_Cat> was this a mistake?
[09:13] <jamie_> ararob: when you work online you tend to work all year around, and anyways its working in development and testing of firefox OS
[09:16] <Poss_> White_Cat shouldn't be a problem, but you'll have to mount your install partition http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[09:17] <Poss_> jamie_ sounds like a dream job
[09:18] <White_Cat> Poss_ I see that
[09:18] <White_Cat> I used similar commands maybe
[09:18] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:18] <White_Cat> can you take a look at this?
[09:18] <jamie_> Poss_ it has it perks, Im getting the new build/ model of the flame when this round is distributed!!
[09:19] <jamie_> I spend most of my day working on what I love!!! and can chose when i work as long as its all done in a timely manor
[09:20] <EriC^^> White_Cat: that seems to be for an accidental install
[09:20] <EriC^^> White_Cat: paste sudo parted -l
[09:21] <Poss_> jamie_  i like the idea of an open source phone, but it seems pretty pointless on closed source hardware with built in backdoors, and then to plug the whole thing into a corporate mobile network.
[09:22] <jamie_> its not as closed as you think.... it is an openly availble os to flash if someone has taken the time to port it to that phone, and if you have the knolege you can just do it yourself, its all available right on the web openly
[09:22] <Poss_> White_Cat, I am afraid I can't offer much advice outside of starting from scratch, uninstalling and reinstalling following the official process
[09:22] <lucAsk> exit
[09:23] <White_Cat> sure
[09:23] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/tzge7LDk
[09:23] <White_Cat> I dont want to reinstall ubuntu as I dont want to loose the data I have
[09:23] <White_Cat> the entire reason why I went this route is o have the ability to backup
[09:24] <White_Cat> legacy bios wasnt detecting drives
[09:24] <Poss_> jamie_  I still doubt we'll be seeing RMS with one
[09:24] <jamie_> and its linux originated to make the hardware not need new firmware, and that is what is called gonk, and the rest is all smartly html!!!
[09:24] <White_Cat> I can get to grub unlike before so it should be a simple matter of setting grub efi up
[09:24] <unknow> 2
[09:24] <unknow> 2
[09:25] <jamie_> Poss_ you do mean risk management right?
[09:25] <White_Cat> EriC^^ the first partition was for bios maybe but this is a raid 5 so maybe its for raid related stuff
[09:25] <White_Cat> I am unsure
[09:25] <jamie_> well risk management solutions
[09:25] <EriC^^> White_Cat: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:25] <EriC^^> White_Cat: the first partition was cause you installed using a gpt partition with legacy
[09:25] <White_Cat> ah
[09:26] <unknow> quit
[09:26] <unknow> exit
[09:26] <EriC^^> White_Cat: it's not required for uefi but it's ok i guess to leave it
[09:26] <White_Cat> yeah its tiny
[09:26] <Poss_> jamie_ no i mean Stallman,  he hates mobile phones
[09:26] <White_Cat> I dont want to risk boot over such small space
[09:27] <Poss_> jamie_ i guess given the room we're in, the logic question is what does Firefox OS have over ubuntu phones?
[09:27] <White_Cat> EriC^^ I did type that command by the way
[09:27] <EriC^^> White_Cat: it should be ok, plus if you ever have to boot it on a bios pc you can still do that
[09:27] <Tahrpup> Do anyone knows which Copyright does "LINUX: Rute User’s Tutorial and Exposition" uses ?? Thanks.
[09:28] <unknow> EXEC cd $HOME/xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[09:28] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[09:28] <fafhnir> no clue
[09:28] <jamie_> Poss_ other than less hard ware requirements, and main orientation to general usability and phones that do come with it on there
[09:28] <unknow> EXEC cd $HOME/xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[09:28] <ram_> oh jeez can't even set up a simple software IM,Pidgin
[09:28] <jamie_> ubuntu is more of a power house than a daily user
[09:29] <White_Cat> no errors or anything so far
[09:29] <EriC^^> White_Cat: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:29] <White_Cat> with this I am mounting my linux installation and the directory efi within it, right?
[09:29] <Poss_> Tahrpup here is the licence http://rute.2038bug.com/copying.html.gz
[09:29] <EriC^^> White_Cat: yes
[09:30] <jamie_> Poss_ ubuntu is orientated to be used extraneously and for high end tasks, yet again one that i helped in the beta stage with testing
[09:30] <EriC^^> White_Cat: now you're mounting the virtual filesystems from the liveusb to the mounted installation
[09:30] <ram_> Account nt authorized in Pidgin IM
[09:30] <jamie_> but that one was a volunteer instead of working, but was still worth the time and was fun
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> Does anyone know what's wrong? root@PlayMCPENetwork:/home/playmcpe/final# wget -q -O - http://get.pocketmine.net/ | bash -r
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> bash: line 61: /dev/null: restricted: cannot redirect output
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> bash: line 69: /dev/null: restricted: cannot redirect output
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> error, curl or wget not found
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> Woops didn't know it was going to show on multiple lines soz
[09:32] <dts|pokeball> hey guys... ive got this weird issue. so im writing an irc eval bot, and obviously i need a sandbox for it
[09:32] <dts|pokeball> oops sorry didnt mean to hit enter
[09:32] <White_Cat> EriC^^ sort of like a boot transfusion?
[09:32] <EriC^^> in a way yes i guess
[09:32] <White_Cat> the command executed fairly quickly within seconds by the way
[09:32] <Codmadnesspro> But wget and curl is installed...
[09:32] <White_Cat> I recheck what I type to make sure its correct
[09:33] <Poss_> jamie_ it just seems like there is a lot of competition between ubuntu, firefox and sailfish, and it looks like there is a lot of duplication of effort going on for dubious benefit.
[09:33] <EriC^^> White_Cat: it executes quickly, if it returns nothing you're ok i guess
[09:33] <White_Cat> yeah it doesnt. :)
[09:33] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[09:33] <White_Cat> as in no output
[09:34] <Tahrpup> Poss_: Thanks.
[09:34] <White_Cat> its now using root
[09:34] <jamie_> Poss_ its all a step twards the next generation of technology and I love being a part of it, I was rather not supprised when they stated that the edge would not be relased and is being retracted
[09:34] <CryptoSiD> Hi, im doing apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade on ubuntu server and it try to install gnome-desktop and like 465 packages!?
[09:34] <CryptoSiD> how can i fix this!
[09:34] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, is it a 64bit machine?
[09:34] <AndroUser2> hi
[09:34] <White_Cat> yes
[09:35] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, type sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[09:35] <White_Cat> I type sudo even if it is root?
[09:35] <EriC^^> sorry, no sudo
[09:36] <wafflej0ck> EriC^^, doesn't hurt anyhow does it? if you do sudo as root?
[09:36] <jamie_> Poss_ due to what they were trying to do with it at the time was a little far fetched to be a daily affordable phone like they planed or an easily crowd sourced project for development. the concept is possible, but now with the limited crowd sourcing/ kickstarter they have sadfully
[09:36] <EriC^^> i'm not completely sure, i've heard it's not recommended
[09:37] <EriC^^> i can't think of why it would be harmful though
[09:37] <White_Cat> it aborted half way saying "Can't access efivars filesystem at /sys/firmware/efi/efivars, aborting"
[09:37] <dts|pokeball> hey guys... ive got this weird issue. so im writing an irc eval bot, and obviously i need a sandbox for it. someone suggested: http://www.ucw.cz/moe/ the only issue is i have to run it as root. someone in #nim told me to di setuid as root. how would i do this? also if someone has a good sandbox to suggest im down to hear it
[09:38] <White_Cat> I can pastebin the whole thing if you like
[09:38] <Poss_> jamie_ the specific problem I've seen with firefox OS is the way it handles apps is to assume everyone has a good enough internet connection to use all the apps not on the device, its like an OS built to be used on wifi.
[09:38] <White_Cat> pastebin
[09:39] <EriC^^> White_Cat: it's ok, type exit, then type modprobe efivars
[09:40] <White_Cat> typed
[09:40] <White_Cat> no output
[09:40] <EriC^^> ok, sudo chroot /mnt once again
[09:40] <White_Cat> yep
[09:40] <White_Cat> same command?
[09:41] <EriC^^> yup
[09:41] <jamie_> Poss_ it does hold the actual app on the phone itself, the only one that it does not is the ones that run off internet to start with to try to save space and make less for b2g to have to do and mostly a quick process throught Gaia and to avoid Jank
[09:42] <White_Cat> its saying it already is the latest and some packages can be removed
[09:42] <White_Cat> inclusing grub-pc-bin
[09:42] <EriC^^> White_Cat: try apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[09:43] <White_Cat> it  completed without an error
[09:43] <EriC^^> ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub
[09:44] <White_Cat> as root right?
[09:44] <Poss_> jamie_ thats what i mean, in lieu of having a dedicated app store, it relies largely on web based apps, which require continuous data use.   There are signed apps from a variety of sources, but that seems like a step backwards from linux and ios.  I don't know as much as you obviously, but it seems like a solution in search of a problem, im just not sure there is enough market demand there. Still, I wish you luck with it.
[09:44] <EriC^^> White_Cat: yes
[09:45] <White_Cat> grub install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an efi partition
[09:45] <jamie_> Poss_ thanks. If your interested in taking a closer look here is the architecture  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Architecture
[09:45] <EriC^^> White_Cat: type gdisk -l /dev/sda
[09:46] <EriC^^> does it have the EF00 code?
[09:46] <White_Cat> I think I need to install it
[09:46] <White_Cat> two packages are listed gdisk and gdisk-noicu
[09:47] <White_Cat> I can apt-get either
[09:47] <White_Cat> or both
[09:47] <EriC^^> install gdisk
[09:48] <jamie_> Poss_ have a good.... night for you probably..... that was fun, I hope to have anther conversation like that again!
[09:48] <White_Cat> let me pastebin the output
[09:48] <Poss_> jamie_ and you sleep well mate, talk again soon
[09:49] <jamie_> thanks
[09:49] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/f7EFXT7k
[09:49] <White_Cat> its listed only on the bios partition I think
[09:49] <White_Cat> EF00 code
[09:50] <White_Cat> 4 should be the efi partition
[09:50] <White_Cat> and it has code 0700
[09:51] <EriC^^> yes
[09:53] <EriC^^> White_Cat: type cgdisk /dev/sda
[09:54] <White_Cat> I have a text menu
[09:54] <EriC^^> ok use the arrow to select the efi partition, then click on type
[09:54] <EriC^^> and type ef00
[09:54] <White_Cat> efi partition is fat 32 btw
[09:55] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:55] <White_Cat> okay
[09:55] <White_Cat> now should I use write
[09:55] <EriC^^> yes
[09:55] <White_Cat> it made it EFI System
[09:55] <White_Cat> am I sure, its asking :/
[09:56] <White_Cat> I imagine it wont destroy data
[09:56] <EriC^^> no, it will just set the type
[09:57] <White_Cat> should I quit?
[09:57] <White_Cat> it returned to the previous menu
[09:57] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:57] <White_Cat> returned to terminal as root
[09:58] <EriC^^> ok, try the grub-install command again
[09:58] <White_Cat> I was just gonna ask that :)
[09:58] <White_Cat> same error :/
[09:58] <EriC^^> White_Cat: try typing exit
[09:58] <EriC^^> partprobe
[09:59] <EriC^^> then chroot again
[09:59] <White_Cat> gdisk -l /def/sda shows correct code though
[09:59] <White_Cat> okay
[09:59] <White_Cat> still the same grub install error
[10:00] <EriC^^> White_Cat: type ls -l /boot/efi
[10:01] <White_Cat> fairly long list
[10:01] <EriC^^> any EFI dir?
[10:01] <White_Cat> half a screen but then again this thing has a small screen
[10:02] <White_Cat> I dont think so
[10:02] <White_Cat> let me pastebin it
[10:02] <EriC^^> are you in the chroot?
[10:02] <White_Cat> yes
[10:02] <EriC^^> ok
[10:03] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/TxQnsLsi
[10:03] <White_Cat> an efi isnt mentioned in the list once
[10:04] <EriC^^> ok, pastebin mount
[10:05] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ah, i messed up
[10:05] <EriC^^> hold on
[10:05] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/PPQWGEaC
[10:06]  * White_Cat braces :D
[10:06] <EriC^^> type exit, then sudo umount /mnt/boot/efi
[10:07] <EriC^^> then type ls /mnt , if the installation is there
[10:07] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/boot/efi
[10:08] <schizdroid> Hey :3
[10:10] <White_Cat> exiinstallation? as in a directory or filename named that?
[10:12] <EriC^^> if the installation is there, boot etc home root lib ..
[10:12] <White_Cat> boot etc lib  and home are all listed
[10:13] <EriC^^> ok, did you mount the efi partition?
[10:13] <White_Cat> not yet
[10:13] <White_Cat> I have the command typed
[10:13] <White_Cat> but I havent hit enter yet
[10:13] <EriC^^> lol
[10:14] <White_Cat> :D I hesitate with boot issues
[10:14] <EriC^^> nothing bad is going to happen
[10:14] <White_Cat> should I run the command or should I perform something else?
[10:14] <White_Cat> okay :)
[10:14] <White_Cat> dealing with boot always terifies me
[10:15] <EriC^^> it shouldn't it's the easiest of issues if you have a live usb
[10:15] <White_Cat> oh okay
[10:16] <White_Cat> ls /mnt doesnt seem to list efi still
[10:16] <EriC^^> it should be listed in /mnt/boot/efi
[10:16] <White_Cat> probably
[10:17] <White_Cat> being a subdir and all :D
[10:17] <White_Cat> so should I chroot and run the grub command again?
[10:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:18] <EriC^^> White_Cat: actually
[10:18] <White_Cat> it seemingly is doing something
[10:18] <EriC^^> don't
[10:18] <White_Cat> it ended with done
[10:18] <EriC^^> it's ok if you did though
[10:18] <White_Cat> ack
[10:18] <White_Cat> you are gonna give me a heart attack :p
[10:19] <White_Cat> it mentioned a setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported
[10:19] <EriC^^> White_Cat: run apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[10:19] <White_Cat> its a warning though
[10:20] <White_Cat> installaiton finished no error
[10:20] <White_Cat> I imagine I should run the grub install a second time?
[10:20] <EriC^^> ok
[10:21] <EriC^^> it wont hurt
[10:21] <White_Cat> same output
[10:21] <White_Cat> ended with done
[10:22] <EriC^^> ok, type exit
[10:23] <EriC^^> restart and see if it works
[10:23] <White_Cat> reboot not from live cd I imagine
[10:24] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:27] <EriC^^> White_Cat: any luck?
[10:27] <White_Cat> it gave a general exception
[10:28] <White_Cat> so rebooted a second time
[10:28] <uyfguigio> can i speak chinese?
[10:28] <White_Cat> its taking forever
[10:28] <Svetlana> !zh
[10:28] <White_Cat> EriC^^ I get invalid environment block
[10:28] <White_Cat> then some red text
[10:29] <White_Cat> General Protection Exception
[10:29] <White_Cat> maybe efi is portected
[10:29] <White_Cat> thats the issue
[10:29] <EriC^^> when it boots, can you get to the boot manager?
[10:29] <White_Cat> sure
[10:30] <White_Cat> I can select boot device if you want me to
[10:30] <White_Cat> I let it boot on its own so far
[10:30] <EriC^^> there might be a button that lets you choose which efi entry to boot
[10:30] <EriC^^> press esc and see if there is something along the lines of boot options there
[10:31] <White_Cat> okay, I will try to choose a boot device first to see if it can boot at all
[10:31] <White_Cat> its an hp server so its quite annoying
[10:31] <EriC^^> oh crap
[10:32] <White_Cat> error: invalid environment block. pops up for a short while
[10:32] <marlo_> there is a command i stumbled across the other day, and have now forgotten what it was, that would continuously run a command on the console, wait a few second, run it again... for monitoring some process.
[10:32] <White_Cat> and then is replaced with red text which states "General Protection Exception" "X64 Exception Type 0D"
[10:33] <White_Cat> I think its from grub or soon after
[10:33] <EriC^^> marlo_: watch <command>
[10:33] <marlo_> EriC^^, yes... that's it!!! thank you!
[10:34] <White_Cat> EriC^^ should I go into the bios
[10:34] <White_Cat> I dont think boot order is the issue though
[10:34] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, i gtg but i'll be here later
[10:35] <EriC^^> White_Cat: not the boot order, there's a boot manager
[10:35] <White_Cat> okay
[10:35] <EriC^^> it could be that you need to have a EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi file present
[10:36] <White_Cat> going for lunch?
[10:36] <White_Cat> :)
[10:37] <EriC^^> nope, going for bed :D
[10:37] <White_Cat> oh no
[10:37] <EriC^^> it's 12;30pm here
[10:37] <White_Cat> :(
[10:37] <EriC^^> haven't slept yet
[10:37] <White_Cat> I understand
[10:38] <EriC^^> pm not am
[10:38] <White_Cat> I am badly stuck then :(
[10:43] <eman_> hello hello
[10:44] <Svetlana> hi eman_
[10:45] <Lorthirk> hello. i'm having troubles installing 14.10 on my laptop... here's my question on askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/567785/14-10-installation-stalls-on-santech-m68-laptop
[10:45] <Lorthirk> can anyone help?
[10:47] <LTS14N00b> Hi All, I need to convert some video files into DIVX, I have found outreel which works, but I have heard that DivX-Converter GUI teamed up with mencoder works well. I have installed Mencoder and downloaded the GZ of DivX Converter. How do I install it or do I need to run it via the terminal each time?
[10:48] <White_Cat> EriC^^ on the bright side I can boot from the bios partition
[10:49] <EriC^^> White_Cat: sorry, and yeah you can
[10:52] <EriC^^> White_Cat: did you try the esc button?
[10:52] <White_Cat> no
[10:52] <White_Cat> it was lots of red text
[10:52] <White_Cat> I cannot have server hang on every reboot :)
[10:53] <EriC^^> White_Cat: i know, it's just to get an idea of what's going on
[10:59] <przemek> hello. I have a problem. I'm getting error "error while loading shared libraries: libQtGui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but apt-get install libqtgui4 states that libqtgui4 is already installed. Where should I look?
[11:08] <White_Cat> EriC^^ well system booted and I have people that need to use the server
[11:08] <White_Cat> I suppose you are already asleap by now though :p
[11:17] <Rubel> hi
[11:18] <coin3d> hi there. i've got an external usb hard drive, which i can address, directly after booting of the computer, by using the symlink /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Seagate_Expansion_Desk_NA4JVZ3F-0:0
[11:18] <coin3d> however, after some time, e.g. 5 - 10 minutes
[11:18] <coin3d> this symlink disappears, and instead there is a new symlink ata-ST3000DM001-1CH166_W1F2KE65
[11:19] <coin3d> is there some way to debug this? i dont want to get symlinks deleted, since ive stuff which relies on that symlink
[11:47] <MAGGI> Hi Every Body I recently install ubuntu 14.04 desktop and created admin for root accesss and rec for standard user. Now the problem is i used admin user (root or sudo ) to mounted windows share to /mnt it is mounted but when i type ls to list the error msg Permission deny will come and another thing is with i try to edit /etc/fstab it also shows sa
[11:47] <MAGGI> me error. after that i seen ls -l /etc/fstab the user and group is root root and same to /mnt dir
[11:48] <mrbillgates> where can I check what all partitions use encryption ?
[11:48] <Lorthirk> hello. i'm having troubles installing 14.10 on my laptop... here's my question on askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/567785/14-10-installation-stalls-on-santech-m68-laptop
[11:48] <Lorthirk> can anyone help?
[11:54] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[11:55] <TvL2386> hi
[12:10] <MAGGI> Hi Every Body I recently install ubuntu 14.04 desktop and created admin for root accesss and rec for standard user. Now the problem is i used admin user (root or sudo ) to mounted windows share to /mnt it is mounted but when i type ls to list the error msg Permission deny will come and another thing is with i try to edit /etc/fstab it also shows sa
[12:10] <MAGGI> me error. after that i seen ls -l /etc/fstab the user and group is root root and same to /mnt dir
[12:15] <adante> hi, my /boot is full, what is the best procedure for cleaning out the old kernel images
[12:15] <adante> there's about 6 there at the moment, presumably from old upgrades
[12:16] <Lorthirk> is there a way to prevent nouveau driver loading during ubuntu installation?
[12:17] <collizion> adante: Use 'uname' to find your currently running kernel, and remove all the others. As a practice, I always keep the current one and one previous, just in case.
[12:18] <adante> collizion: thanks - poor google fu on my part before asking - just found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition
[12:18] <collizion> adante: No worries. :)
[12:19] <collizion> Lorthirk: You should be able to add "nouveau.blacklist=1" to your kernel line in GRUB.
[12:19] <adante> say, that guide asks me to run 'sudo apt-get autoremove', which prompts me to remove linux-image-generic -- this seems counterintuitive to me, what is going on here (i assume linux-image-generic is a versionless package)?
[12:19] <Lorthirk> ok, i'm going to try it now!
[12:20] <Lorthirk> it won't propogate to the installation, will it?
[12:20] <collizion> Lorthirk: If you manually enter it in GRUB when you boot, no. It'll only take effect for that single startup.
[12:20] <collizion> Lorthirk: I think.
[12:20] <Lorthirk> ok. i'm going to try :D
[12:21] <collizion> adante: I wouldn't worry about autoremove.
[12:21] <przemek> hello. I have a problem. I'm getting "error while loading shared libraries: libQtGui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but apt-get install libqtgui4 states that libqtgui4 is already installed. Ubuntu 14.04, Where should I look?
[12:21] <collizion> adante: Just go through and remove each old actual kernel package.
[12:22] <adante> collizion: cheers - just for my education what is it trying to do there?
[12:22] <kostkon> przemek, probably it's asking for the 32bit version of those libraries, if you are on a 64bit system
[12:22] <kostkon> !find libQtGui.so.4
[12:22] <collizion> adante: autoremove goes through and removes packages that were installed to satisfy dependencies, but are no longer needed.
[12:23] <kostkon> przemek, you could try sudo apt-get install libqtgui4:i386 and see if that changes anything
[12:23] <collizion> adante: Generally speaking, it's a safe operation, but not really necessary.
[12:23] <collizion> adante: Unless you have some particular reason to run it, of course.
[12:26] <przemek> kostkon: intalling 32bit package did the job. thanks
[12:26] <kostkon> przemek, np
[12:26] <collizion> kostkon: How did you figure that out, anyway? I didn't even think of that.
[12:28] <kostkon> collizion, usual problem on 64bit systems nowadays after the deprecation of ia32-libs
[12:28] <collizion> kostkon: Is that typically an issue seen on desktops? I deal mostly with servers, so I almost never run into anything needing 32-bit libraries.
[12:29] <kostkon> collizion, mostly when people try to run 3rd party 32bit apps
[12:29] <kostkon> collizion, on their 64bit installations*
[12:30] <BluesKaj_> usually games
[12:32] <Lorthirk> collizion, no way. nouveau still gets loaded
[12:33] <collizion> Lorthirk: Weird. That's how I know to shut the driver off. Then again, nouveau is a SPECIAL kind of ass-pain.
[12:34] <Lorthirk> from what i'm reading... blacklisting only works with external kernel modules (.ko). does nouveau works this way?
[12:34] <collizion> Lorthirk: OR... nouveau is included in the initramfs that you're booting from.
[12:35] <collizion> Lorthirk: Question, though. WHY are you disabling nouveau? NVIDIA card?
[12:35] <Lorthirk> yes
[12:35] <Lorthirk> please look at this question
[12:35] <collizion> BRB in 20.
[12:35] <Lorthirk> askubuntu.com/questions/567785/14-10-installation-stalls-on-santech-m68-laptop
[12:35] <Lorthirk> brb in 20 as well :D
[12:36] <dannymichel> Hi all. I know rutorrent has a channel, but was wondering if someone here could help me. I'm using rutorrent on a dedicated server and my user is chown to 3 different hard drives on the dedicated server. Right now, all rutorrent can see or add new torrents from is whatever is in ~/ . How do I add the other hard drives to that?
[12:37] <ikonia> add it to what ?
[12:40] <dannymichel> ikoniaadd add other hard drives to directories rutorrent has access to to add new torrents from or save torrents to.
[12:52] <veehem>   /away
[12:55] <utox> ya til un canale pours des iso
[12:57] <Lorthirk> collizion, i'm back whenever you want
[12:57] <collizion> Likewise.
[13:05] <Lorthirk> ok, so
[13:05] <Lorthirk> as i said, collizion, have a look at this question
[13:06] <Lorthirk> askubuntu.com/questions/567785/14-10-installation-stalls-on-santech-m68-laptop
[13:09] <collizion> Lorthirk: Looking over it now.
[13:09] <collizion> Lorthirk: Does it do the same thing if you boot with the nouveau.blacklist=1 line?
[13:09] <Lorthirk> yes
[13:10] <Lorthirk> that's why i asked if nouveau is an external module in the first place
[13:11] <Majdi> Hey there
[13:12] <collizion> Lorthirk: I don't think it is.
[13:13] <Lorthirk> so blacklisting won't work...
[13:13] <Lorthirk> any ideas? :\
[13:14] <Lorthirk> i guess that the problem is indeed in the kernel... as said in the question, both linux mint (3.13) and fedora 21 (3.18) works ok (but on feodora 21 i had to add nomodeset at boot)
[13:14] <Lorthirk> utopic is shipped with...?
[13:14] <collizion> I'm not sure. I haven't really touched utopic other than realizing it's a bit of a mess.
[13:14] <jbergler> Does anyone know where I can look to troubleshoot uploading packages to a ppa - the googles suggest that it can take several hours but its been more than 12 and still hasn’t shown up
[13:15] <Majdi> installed xorg-edgers ppa yesterday and updated the system (that's foolish, i just wanted to install nvidia-340, but didn't realize you don't have to update all packages for that)
[13:15] <Majdi> now I can't remove xorg-xedgers ppa with ppa-purge, gives me this output : http://pastebin.com/HyiZcnwh
[13:15] <Lorthirk> uhm... maybe i could try installing 14.04, installing nvidia drivers and then upgrading to 14.10
[13:16] <collizion> Lorthirk: Hey, there's an option.
[13:16] <Lorthirk> i will right now!
[13:16] <Majdi> (sorry for the french in the paste my system locale is french)
[13:16] <Lorthirk> thanks anyway :D
[13:17] <Majdi> my problem looks similar to that one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924041
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, just comment the deb line in the sources.list with a # or remove the deb line altogether, then update again
[13:19] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, ppa-purge does that automatically, but it doesn't downgrade the packages installed from xorg-edgers though
[13:20] <Majdi> which I need to do
[13:20] <Majdi> cause X server is broken with new packages
[13:21] <Majdi> because of that "libgtk2.0-0" dependency problem which you can see in the pastebin
[13:21] <BluesKaj_> yes, but purging the ppas doesn't remove the driver , Majdi
[13:22] <Majdi> in fact it seems to me it does, judging by the "packages to be removed" list given by ppa-purge
[13:22] <BluesKaj_> and to complicate matters you are running 2 gpus
[13:23] <Majdi> it just can't proceed to the package removal because of that dependency issue
[13:23] <Majdi> Yeah, I'm aware of that, but that's okay
[13:23] <BluesKaj_> best to just remove the nvidia-340 driver with apt-get if it's not working
[13:24] <Majdi> fine, but I also want to remove all the xorg packages from the ppa, which I installed by mistake doing a system upgrade
[13:24] <Majdi> after adding the ppa
[13:26] <Majdi> just couldn't figure how to solve this "libgtk2.0-0 requires libcairo2 but is to be installed and libgdk-pixbuf2 but is to be installed" and so on and so on
[13:26] <Majdi> so then I can safely remove the ppa with ppa-purge
[13:27] <Majdi> as adviced by the xorg-edgers ppa disclaimer
[13:27] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, open /etc/apt/sources.list .d with root permissions and remove said ppas there...see if that works , then sudo apt-get update and autoremove
[13:27] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, no.
[13:28] <Majdi> it will screw everything up even more
[13:28] <BluesKaj_> fine , have it your way
[13:28] <Majdi> because
[13:29] <kokut> hows the command to search on channels names?
[13:30] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, sudo apt-get autoremove will remove dependencies no longer needed
[13:31] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, look
[13:33] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:33] <Majdi> ** Please use ppa-purge to remove this PPA. It is *particularly* recommended to do this before upgrading to a new ubuntu release! **
[13:33] <arun> guys, anyone using centos?
[13:33] <Majdi> I need to downgrade everything safely with ppa-purge
[13:34] <Majdi> removing it the usual way like for others ppas doesn't work
[13:34] <Majdi> it just breaks everything even more
[13:34] <collizion> arun: Might ask on #centos.
[13:34] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, well you followed edgers advice and it mucked your system up, now I'm making suggestions to get out of that mess
[13:35] <Majdi> I need to figure that dependency issue which ppa-purge gives
[13:35] <collizion> Majdi: Can I see what happens when you try to ppa-purge?
[13:36] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, I didn't do it on purpose. installing only nvidia driver from xorg-edgers usually is fine, but I upgraded all system and then realized it was stupid
[13:36] <Majdi> collizion, http://pastebin.com/HyiZcnwh this is the output of the "sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers" command
[13:36] <Majdi> sorry for the parts in french
[13:37] <kokut> Anyone knows the command to search within channels names and topics?
[13:37] <Majdi> I can change my locale and run ppa-purge again if you want everything in english
[13:39] <collizion> Majdi: Honestly, that, to me, reads like "nuke and pave."
[13:39] <kostkon> !alis | kokut
[13:39] <Majdi> collizion, haha
[13:39] <kokut> kostkon: thanks man
[13:41] <collizion> Majdi: I wish I was kidding. I can summarize that as follows: Leave the following dependencies unresolved: Everything.
[13:41] <wjtaylor_> sorry for the OT. I shut down my system yesterday to swap out a dvdrom. Now my system is having issue with memory. Not sure why. If the set of ram is left in the system it shuts off after 3 secs and then restarts... looping like this. If I remove the ram it posts without error.... Any reason why this would happen? Is there a fix?
[13:42] <Majdi> collizion, I know. you shouldn't pay attention to the stuff which is written after the libgtk2.0 thing. it's just ppa-purge which tries to use aptitude instead of apt-get to solve the problem which it does even worse by advicing to remove everything.
[13:42] <collizion> Fair enough.
[13:43] <Majdi> collizion, I found that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924041 which is similar to my problem. the thing is, ppa-purge seems to handle multiarch packages not very well
[13:44] <collizion> Majdi: What you could try doing is disable the PPA, install the packages that libgtk wants, then ppa-purge.
[13:44] <collizion> That way it doesn't spaz out on dependencies.
[13:45] <Majdi> collizion, right, exactly. I tried that, no luck. even did apt-get purge --reinstall these packages, then did it with their :i386 counterparts, didn't help either
[13:45] <vifino> Hello. After a reboot, I don't have audio anymore, even though it worked with jack and everything. I changed nothing. Here is the output of the alsa info script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c9e4ca013629dcdd86a7e105183b2c54b1d93f67 (Jack is running, as jackdbus.)
[13:45] <Majdi> That's why I'm running out of ideas
[13:45] <collizion> Majdi: Nuke and pave? <:)
[13:47] <Majdi> I believe it wants me to remove libgtk2.0 to downgrade it with a version in the ubuntu repos. I tried to apt-get remove it, but then it says it needs to remove all dependencies which require libgtk2.0, so basically everything
[13:47] <vifino> I am running Utopic.
[13:47] <vifino> It worked a day before.
[13:49] <Majdi> so you guys need to tell me one thing, can I remove a package and force it to ignore the dependencies which require it, knowing that I'll install it back after ppa purge ? and collizion call me stubborn haha, but I want so much to solve this without nuke and pave, knowing that I got no backup of my data and I'm really lazy to reinstall everything :)
[13:50] <Bushmaster> hello, seeking some help, i cant convert mp4 to mp3 in my ubuntu, i looked into this forum http://askubuntu.com/questions/174287/how-do-i-convert-an-mp4-to-an-mp3 and followed all the instruction with no luck
[13:50] <collizion> Majdi: You can TRY to remove a package without doing anything about dependencies.
[13:51] <Majdi> collizion, I mean, is there an apt-get trick to force remove a package ignoring that it will break dependencies ?
[13:51] <collizion> Majdi: I'm looking now.
[13:51] <Majdi> collizion, thank you very much !
[13:51] <Majdi> it would be really helping
[13:52] <Bushmaster> this is what happening when i tried to install mp4 to mp3 related packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/9659482/
[13:52] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, you should always have separate partiitions for / (the OS) and your /home dir on separate partitions , then you can reinstall cleanly without affecting your data
[13:53] <xangua> Bushmaster: the question you mention is marked as duplicate, did you already check the "original" question¿ it seems to be better explained
[13:53] <Bushmaster> yes i checked xangua
[13:53] <Bushmaster> look at this xangua http://paste.ubuntu.com/9659482/
[13:53] <collizion> Majdi: You could try using dpkg to remove it manually.
[13:55] <xangua> Bushmaster: did you try what the message says¿
[13:56] <Bushmaster> xangua,  trying again this time with libav-tools
[13:59] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, I know, but this time Netrunner installer didn't let me do that.
[13:59] <Majdi> collizion, ok, I'll try that
[13:59] <Majdi> collizion, thanks
[13:59] <collizion> Majdi: Oh, don't thank me yet. :P
[14:00] <collizion> Majdi: What we're doing definitely falls into Bad Idea territory. But I don't have any good ideas left!
[14:00] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, ahh so you're on an unsupported OS\
[14:02] <srwood> join /ubuntu-touch
[14:03] <Majdi> collizion, yeah, I know I'm doing some yolo stuff right now haha
[14:03] <srwood> join #ubuntu-touch
[14:03] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, using ppas meant for ubuntu OSs and it's flavours are only supported here, not an ubuntu related OS which uses different sources, mixing those sources with your apps on and their dependencies can cause a lot of trouble as you can see
[14:04] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, this is basically kubuntu with a few things added in it
[14:04] <Skyrider> A few days ago, someone suggested I should be using kernel x.1.6 I believe.
[14:04] <Skyrider> rather than the 1.3 that I'm using now.
[14:04] <Skyrider> I can't find the logs though.
[14:04] <jatt> you are not using kernel 1.3
[14:05] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, this is not related at all, it would have done exactly the same thing on pure ubuntu
[14:05] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, and it has, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924041
[14:05] <wu__> hi new fish herer
[14:05] <collizion> Majdi: Let's just see what we can do to resolve this.
[14:06] <Skyrider> I honestly cant remember :(
[14:06] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, I know what netrunner is , I tried it ...recommend you use real kubuntu if want to use KDE DE
[14:07] <Smaroo_linux> Fuck her right in da pussy!
[14:08] <Yon> Hi, is there an ubuntu beginners? I just installed 14.04 intending to dual boot with windows. had win7 installed. followed instructions from http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/30/dual-boot-ubuntu-14-04-and-windows-7-on-a-pc-with-uefi-firmware/   exactly. Ubuntu installed but windows is no longer available in the boot menu .... ??
[14:11] <guite> Yon: did you installed ubuntu with a usb boot ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj_> Yon, are you on ubuntu now? if so open a terminal and do, sudo os-prober , then do, sudo update-grub
[14:11] <Skyrider> I am using...
[14:11] <Skyrider> Linux 3.13.0-37-generic on x86_64
[14:12] <Skyrider> I heard it should be 3.16 due to my HDMI issues.
[14:12] <guite> Yon: …or follow BluesKaj_, he probably knows more than me on this
[14:12] <Yon> made a dvd...will do
[14:12] <suggestor> when I want to select task -> lbuntu-desktop there is e.g. normalpkg and normalpkg:i386 then it tells me unable to resolve deps.. because it tries to somehow mix amd64 and i386? Any idea how to solve that (I am with ubuntu-server-14.04
[14:13] <BluesKaj_> Yon, are you running off a live dvd?
[14:14] <Yon> non installed from dvd...did you need the output from os-prober or run update anyway?
[14:15] <srwood_> #ubuntu-touch
[14:16] <nadimsite> HI
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> Yon, no run update-grub  then give us the out put in pastebin
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> !pastebin
[14:16] <bugtraq> yo guys
[14:17] <bugtraq> look me system
[14:17] <hira> hello
[14:17] <Webmills> Hi
[14:17] <bugtraq> hi
[14:18] <hira> Hi,  i am doing my final year project which is a python scripted application named blue proximity.Blue proximity is software that is used to secure your computer by using Bluetooth. It detects your presence with your mobile phone or a Bluetooth dongle near your computer and unlocks it and when you are away from your computer it locks it automatically.
[14:19] <hira> For this purpose, it uses raspberry pi a credit card size small computing device which is compatible to the Blue proximity as well, because the software called Blue proximity runs on the Linux operating system because that software is more compatible to the Linux operating system as it allow its user to directly interact with its kernel. To complete the purpose of Bluetooth we are using Bluetooth dongle or a mobile phone to connect with.
[14:20] <hira> is there anyone who can help me
[14:20] <hira> ??
[14:20] <bugtraq> question?
[14:21] <Yon> @ BluesKaj how do i direct a message at someone? http://pastebin.com/FtGb4NPe
[14:22] <mous_> hi
[14:23] <mous_> hallo
[14:23] <BluesKaj_> Yon, just use their nick, usually by typing the first few letters then completing with the tab key , @ isn't necessary in irc. I see you have windows listed in the grub menu , now you should be able to choose your OS at the grub menu when booting
[14:28] <Yon> BluesKaj_: Sorry, new to this..I did access the grub menu accidentally but windows didn't show on it then..the boot menu normally defaults to the foundation package..excuse me but how would I access the grub menu?
[14:32] <Yon> BluesKaj_: another weird thing is that the drive icon in the side panel of ubuntu isn't for the drive partitioned for ubuntu install. It has all the windows stuff on it
[14:33] <BluesKaj_> Yon, when booting the grub menu should show up after the page wih uefi/bios options
[14:34] <BluesKaj_> yon, let me rephrase: when booting, the grub menu should show up after the page wih uefi/bios options
[14:40] <Yon> BluesKaj_: hmm ok, got it. windows is on the menu but after selecting it, the screen just blinks and reverts back to ubuntu
[14:45] <BluesKaj_> Yon, ok you may need to disable secure and fast boot if they are enabled in the uefi bios and if all else fails try using legacy boot rather than uefi
[15:02] <invertible> if I run a bash script, will the commands executed within the script be visible via ps, or is just the script itself visible?
[15:02] <Zergling316> hi, is there a utility with which i can see the temperatures and control the fanspeed of my amd gpu?
[15:02] <Zergling316> (using open source drivers)
[15:05] <Nikihak> Zergling, I also have problem with temperature of my GPU it is getting overheated a lot
[15:05] <Nikihak> When I play some game it is above 85, and idle it is 70-75 which is high as well
[15:05] <Nikihak> Sorry I can't help about AMD, I have nVidia GPU
[15:09] <Champagne> Hello, I have an audio problem with my Ubuntu machine...
[15:09] <Skyrider> meh...
[15:09] <Champagne> aplay -L outputs: default     Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
[15:09] <Skyrider> HandleLidSwitch=ignore is not working
[15:10] <Champagne> So ALSA sends to Pulse Audio server
[15:10] <Champagne> Nothing is muted
[15:11] <Champagne> And through pavucontrol I've set my HDMI output (5.1 digital + analog input)
[15:13] <Champagne> speaker-test -c 6 -t wav does not yield any sound through the speakers
[15:16] <OrganTrouble> hi
[15:17] <nadimsite> Is ubuntu a free software or open source.
[15:17] <nadimsite> No one knows
[15:17] <compdoc> its open source thats free to use
[15:18] <compdoc> well, most of it is open source
[15:18] <Skyrider> it's either open source or it isn't :p
[15:18] <Skyrider> Most of it isn't defined as fully / completely open source :D
[15:18] <nadimsite> But  richard stallman. Reject ubuntu
[15:18] <ksbalaji> Im on acer aspire running 14.10(LiveUSB) My touchpad rightclick and middleclick doesnt work. Help please.
[15:18] <rberg-> it does include some non free blobs for convenience sake.
[15:18] <compdoc> being free to use makes that a mute point
[15:19] <rberg-> and thats probably why RMS doesnt approve..
[15:19] <collizion> The majority of Ubuntu is open source. Non-open source components are contained in different repositories. It's your choice to use them or not.
[15:19] <compdoc> millions use it. to heck with richard stallman
[15:20] <rberg-> much respect to RMS, but much of what he does is highly impractical. :)
[15:20] <rberg-> for me I mean anyways
[15:22] <ksbalaji> Touchpad rightclick not working in acer aspire laptop on 14.10 usbstick - help
[15:26] <rrr> how to get untar tar.bz2 file?
[15:27] <nadimsite> I installed 14.04. Do I have to move to 14.10. Or maybe still on 14.04.
[15:27] <rrr> how to untar tar.bz2 file?
[15:28] <nadimsite> Yalue what is your opinion?
[15:29] <yalue> nadimsite: Wrong person? My opinion on how to untar a .tar.bz2 would be "tar -xvjf <file.tar.bz2>"
[15:29] <compdoc> Im staying with 14.04
[15:29] <nadimsite> Thanks yalue
[15:30] <Skyrider> I was wondering if someone could help me.
[15:30] <Skyrider> I'm currently on linuxmint, and I'm having black screen issues when HDMI cable is attached to the laptop (for TV).
[15:30] <Skyrider> I'm using radeon.
[15:31] <Zergling316> then you might want to ask in the linuxmint channel
[15:31] <Zergling316> as this is #ubuntu
[15:31] <Skyrider> I'm aware
[15:31] <linuxmint> Skyrider: I had that issue. I think I needed a driver. Better move to linuxmint-help channel though :-)
[15:31] <Skyrider> Though linuxmint uses ubuntu :p
[15:31] <Skyrider> Plus, I'm having this issue on all ubuntu releases.
[15:32] <Skyrider> Including default ubuntu.
[15:34] <sebsebseb> hi
[15:34] <jusss> is anyone there ? can anyone paste the property of /dev/tty0 ?
[15:35] <ramchandra> I'm here. What do you mean by property?
[15:35] <ramchandra> Do you want to restore the permissions?
[15:35] <jusss> yes
[15:35] <jusss> mine is crw--w----
[15:35] <ramchandra> "crw--w----" I'll figure out the
[15:36] <ramchandra> Anyways no need to change it afaik the permissions are not retained (it's the virtual devfs)
[15:36] <jusss> when I open Xorg.bin as non-root, there is a error cannot open /dev/tty0
[15:36] <ramchandra> you need to run Xorg as root
[15:36] <Zergling316> really no one able to help me adjust my fanspeed with the amd open source gpu driver
[15:36] <Zergling316> ?
[15:36] <ramchandra> /dev/tty0 is just one issue
[15:37] <ramchandra> !ubottu patience|Zergling316
[15:37] <ramchandra> !ubottu patience
[15:37] <jusss> ramchandra: run Xorg must be root?
[15:37] <ramchandra> yes, you have to run it as root
[15:38] <jusss> ramchandra: but I can run Xorg as non-root last year
[15:38] <ramchandra> if you want to be able to run it without root every time change the setuid bit
[15:38] <ramchandra> hmm.. you might be right lemme check
[15:39] <ramchandra> I'm pretty sure you have to run it as root so that it can access the video drivers and stuff
[15:39] <guite> hi everyone, can anyone tell me why I need to be sudo so that I can use opencl ? the nvidia gpu is not detected without being sudo
[15:40] <guite> ok sorry, bad guess >_<
[15:40] <guite> there is something else
[15:47] <Skyrider> meh....
[15:47] <Skyrider> I might as well just install ubuntu and get support directly here..
[15:48] <sebsebseb> Skyrider: hi what do you want help with/
[15:48] <sebsebseb> ?
[15:48] <Skyrider> sebsebseb: Currently using linuxmint, so doubt I'll get support here :p
[15:48] <sebsebseb> oh right I see
[15:49] <Skyrider> But this problem is affecting all of my linux installations.
[15:49] <Skyrider> including xubuntu, xbmcbuntu, official ubuntu and linuxmint.
[15:54] <firebird1> hi all i learnt that directory doesnt contain files so come it know what all files are there in that directory for example dir1 has foo1,foo2
[15:54] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, is your audio chip an intel-hda ?
[15:55] <Mathis> hey, how do I install updates on 14.04.1 while being offline?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> Mathis: I don't think you can really or easilly
[15:55] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Yes...
 you must install  all packages who yoou need
[15:57] <teward> Mathis: with infinite difficulty.
[15:57] <teward> Mathis: the only reliable way is to be online - you can't easily install all the packages you'd need for updates without downloading each and every one individually and installing them manually
[15:57] <Mathis> nice...
[15:58] <teward> Mathis: probably better to just invest in networking hardware for the system if you're stuck in the "Not Online" situation.
[15:58] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, ok , in the terminal, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , it's a known bug that fails to load the driver after an upgrade , there should be no output from the modprobe command if the driver loads properly, then a reboot is probly necessary.
[15:58] <Mathis> teward: in that situation networking is not an option
[15:59] <teward> Mathis: then you're out of luck - you can't sanely update if you have no network connectivity, not without figuring out *manually* what packages have changed, which ones you need to download, then download, and manually install
[15:59] <teward> Mathis: if the system has 250 updates to run, for example, then you get to the 'extremely extremely difficult' area
[16:00] <Mathis> its not just about one system, its about 100 boxes
[16:00] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Do you have any input? :( I've isolated that on a fresh reboot I am able to use the speaker test from System settings>Sound. But if I start Firefox and starta a flash internet radio I am unable to do the testing
[16:00] <rberg-> take a look at apt-offline
[16:01] <teward> Mathis: and that ups it to the 'infinitely difficult' area
[16:01] <Mathis> and if I dont find a way to make sure that those UEFI boxes cleanly boot from USB thumbdrives, the only way is to send in the boxes and update them from a central position with internet access
[16:01] <teward> Mathis: but you're still stuck in the situation of downloading the updates manually and installing them
[16:02] <Mathis> I would then install the updates on one of the boxes and create an image of the harddisk, copying it over to the other boxes
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, which browser ?
[16:02] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Firefox (with Flash plugin installed)
[16:04] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: But it is not related to just Flash, because same is when I open XBMC
[16:04] <Mathis> thanks anyway
[16:04] <Champagne> I hear no sound from neither XBMC nor Flash - but what I've found is that as long as either one is running... I can't hear any output from the sound test
[16:05] <Champagne> The only sound that's ever been heard from this system is the speaker-test -t wave sounds
[16:05] <Champagne> It seems like it can only play 1 stream at the time
[16:06] <Champagne> But yet I don't hear the stream from anything other than the test sounds
[16:07] <Champagne> Anyway, I did the mod probe for the audio chip... I'll try rebooting now to see what happens
[16:09] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, what do you have connected to the speakers? HDMI uses the spdif output meant for an hdmi input on a DAC, not an analog out. Try a straight analog in pavucontrol
[16:10] <Champagne> The computer is connected to an AV Receiver (7.1 support but only 5.1 speakers connected)
[16:10] <Champagne> pavucontrol under "Output Devices" tab tells me Port: HDMI/DisplayPort (plugged in)
[16:11] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, ok , the just use the hdmi  or spdif on pavucontrol and the sound setup
[16:11] <BluesKaj_> then
[16:11] <Champagne> And the profile is Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output + Analog Stereo Input
[16:12] <BluesKaj_> yes Champagne there should be a spdif out, that's what I use for my audio receiver
[16:13] <BluesKaj_> you should choose that in alsamixer as well, Champagne
[16:13] <Champagne> Allright, even though I want the sound to go through the HDMI cable?
[16:13] <csabesz> Hello All! Anybody here professional with avconv binary?
[16:14] <BluesKaj_> yes Champagne , the hdmi on the graphics gets the spif from the soundcard
[16:15] <BluesKaj_> spdif that is
[16:15] <BluesKaj_> no analog needed
[16:15] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: I've now selected in System>Sound Play sound through Digital Output (S/PDIF)
[16:15] <BluesKaj_> yes
[16:16] <Champagne> That changes the Output Device in pavucontrol as well to the S/PDIF
[16:16] <BluesKaj_> yes
[16:16] <Champagne> And the test sound window only shows Right and Left, but I hear no sound
[16:16] <Champagne> S/PDIF - isn't that for TOSLINK/Optical cable?
[16:17] <BluesKaj_> coax and hdmi cable as well , Champagne
[16:17] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Allright, but it still gives me no sound... :(
[16:17] <BluesKaj_> reboot
[16:18] <Champagne> Allright, one moment :)
[16:20] <sheap> is there a way to show from which repository a package came from?
[16:21] <MartynKeigher> apt-cache policy <package name>
[16:21] <MartynKeigher> ^ sheap
[16:21] <BluesKaj_> sheap, yes look in the package manager component
[16:21] <MartynKeigher> if you are cli only then the cmd i put should do the trick
[16:22] <sheap> what if the result of a package that is installed says "/var/lib/dpkg/status"?
[16:22] <sheap> instead of a repo name/url
[16:23] <BluesKaj_> sheap, what package ?
[16:23] <sheap> BluesKaj_: libc6
[16:23] <sheap> I somehow have 6.4 installed and it breaks everything
[16:24] <sheap> since it's too high
[16:24] <sheap> I can't figure out where it came from
[16:24] <Majdi> yeah !!!! fixed it ! really happy now
[16:24] <Seveas> sheap: it means you have a version that is not currently in any of your repos
[16:24] <BluesKaj_> sheap, libc6 is from component main
[16:24] <Seveas> sheap: and there's no 6.4 version of libc6
[16:25] <sheap> Seveas: apparently there is: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libc6
[16:26] <Seveas> sheap: that's 2.19
[16:26] <sheap> Seveas: er, 2.19-0ubuntu6.4
[16:26] <Seveas> the -0ubuntu6.4 is the packaging version, not the package version
[16:27] <sheap> Seveas: ok
[16:27] <Seveas> sheap: what's the output of apt-cache policy libc6? And what's broken?
[16:27] <sheap> Seveas:  *** 2.19-0ubuntu6.4 0         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[16:27] <Seveas> that's not the full output.
[16:28] <Seveas> pastebin the full output
[16:28] <Majdi> collizion, I ended doing "cat packages.txt | xargs dpkg -p --force-depends", packages.txt being the list of packages from the ppa-purge output, then apt-get -f installl, then manually apt-get install some packages because for some reason apt-get -f install gave errors for them.  then apt-get install nvidia-331, reboot and HELL YEAH !
[16:28] <Majdi> so thank you all for your help !
[16:28] <collizion> Majdi: Nice! Good work.
[16:29] <Majdi> collizion, thanks again !
[16:29] <Seveas> Majdi: you just leveled up in Ubuntu :)
[16:29] <Majdi> see you ! good evening/afternoon, whatever :)
[16:29] <Majdi> Seveas, thanks ! :D
[16:29] <sheap> Seveas: http://paste.debian.net/138930/
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, I still recommend you use a well supported OS like kubuntu for proper kde package support
[16:31] <Seveas> sheap: don't redact output needlessly. You may be using a broken mirror and haven't given me a way to check...
[16:31] <sheap> Seveas: don't think /var/lib/dpkg/status is a mirror but okay..
[16:31] <Seveas> sheap: 'repo.url'...
[16:32] <BluesKaj_> heh
[16:32] <sheap> Seveas: nvm
[16:41] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, do you have audio ?
[16:42] <bttf> hello, I just added to my /etc/motd.tail but the content won't show up on login. I tried setting +rx permissions on the file and also rebooted the machine but still no go ... what could be wrong?
[16:43] <philip> hello problem on asterisk
[16:44] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Nope...
[16:44] <Champagne> Still only two channels after reboot
[16:44] <philip> experiencing an issue on asterisk
[16:44] <Champagne> And the test from System>Sound gives no output
[16:45] <Champagne> When I did speaker-test -D hdmi it produced sounds, but speaker-test (withough specifying output) gives no sound
[16:45] <Champagne> So my conclusion is that the problem lies with Pulse Audio
[16:45] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, what does the F6 show as the soundcard in alsamixer?
[16:47] <Champagne> As running speaker-test (ALSA) with no output uses default device (Pulse Audio), but when specifying output device (hdmi) it gives out sound
[16:48] <sebbie> Hi guys, trying to boot a live disk but it's hanging, is there a way to get a boot log so I can see what it's failing on?
[16:48] <sebbie> it get's as far as grub but I don't get a boot splash. It just hangs
[16:48] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, what is card0 in alsamixer F6 ?
[16:49] <Champagne> -  (default)
[16:49] <Champagne> 0  HDA Intel PCH
[16:50] <Champagne> That's also the only entries shown
[16:51] <BluesKaj_> ok lets solidify card0 driver, add this to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, options snd-hda-intel index=0 , Champagne
[16:53] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Then reboot or mod probe before?
[16:54] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, just reboot
[16:57] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Sound mixer still shows the same HDA Intel PCH and aplay -L lists Pulse Audio server as default audio
[16:59] <Champagne> When running speaker-test -t wav -c6  gives me: Using max buffer size 349524
[16:59] <Champagne> speaker-test -t wav -c6 -D hdmi gives me: Using max buffer size 5460
[17:00] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, with some intel audio setupd pulse audio isn't necessary, like my laptop ...I should have remembered , you might be able to run without pulse
[17:01] <superteece> Greetings. Is there a specific channel for Duplicity issues?
[17:01] <jazz> anyone here know about yowsup.cli ?
[17:02] <superteece> I have a bad volume in my Duplicity backup and would like to either override the hash check or skip the volume.
[17:03] <superteece> searching makes it appear that this is just a thing that happens and I'm out of luck but then why would Canonical include such an untrustworthy backup solution?
[17:04] <squeegily> This might not be the right channel to ask, but..
[17:04] <squeegily> I want to watch Netflix on my Linux computer, but I don't feel like installing Chrome, and extracting the DRM plugin looks like it's not feasible on Ubuntu just yet. My system does not support virtualization (processor is a Pentium 4), otherwise I would have just used a VM. Now, what would it take to get Google Chrome running in a fully untrusted way? Would a chroot be enough?
[17:04] <squeegily> But the suid sandbox code might let Chrome break out of the chroot.. so I'm not sure what I should do
[17:05] <squeegily> Would AppArmor be used for this?
[17:05] <jazz> just sudo install crome
[17:05] <jazz> chrome
[17:05] <squeegily> jazz: I want to install Google Chrome in a way that it cannot access my system
[17:06] <squeegily> I do not want that unholy closed-source Google code running in anything unsecured
[17:06] <squeegily> I want to run Chrome in an "untrusted" way, but my computer cannot handle a VM
[17:06] <SchrodingersScat> for netflix he probably still needs the chrome beta, at least last I heard.  which wouldn't be in repos.  But since the DRM is probably the part to be worried about, why would you opt to run it at all?
[17:06] <xangua> then don't run it
[17:07] <jazz> and there is no ppa available for it ?
[17:07] <SchrodingersScat> !ppa
[17:07] <squeegily> SchrodingersScat: Because 1. The DRM isn't the part I'm afraid of - it's the browser itself. and 2. I'm fine with DRM
[17:07] <kostkon> SchrodingersScat, even the stable works fine now
[17:07] <squeegily> I would have just put it in Chromium if that were supported at the moment
[17:07] <SchrodingersScat> kostkon: oh, neat.
[17:08] <jazz> anyone know how to get whatsapp running in sync on laptop/pc and phone ?
[17:08] <squeegily> So I'm looking for a way to "jail" the closed-source Chrome browser so I can watch Netflix while I wait for Chromium or Firefox to get around to adding DRM support
[17:09] <Seveas> squeegily: run it as a different user
[17:09] <squeegily> Seveas: The catch is
[17:09] <squeegily> There are setuid binaries
[17:09] <squeegily> It's used for the sandbox, since setting up privilege dropping needs root privileges
[17:09] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: I think solidifying the driver as well as changing output back to HDMI seems to have done it!
[17:10] <Champagne> MANY thanks! BluesKaj_
[17:10] <squeegily> But it's still a root-setuid closed-source binary
[17:10] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, glad to hear that :)
[17:10] <Seveas> squeegily: anything that's not a vm can break out to the 'real' system.
[17:11] <Seveas> You'll have to choose between trusting chrome and not watching netflix.
[17:11] <teward> Seveas: or he can launch it in a VM
[17:11] <teward> squeegily: ^
[17:11] <kostkon> squeegily, chromium will nevee add support. EME support in firefox is getting close. You can use pipelight instead. It will allow you to watch netflix in firefox http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[17:11] <squeegily> Seveas: Yeah, but it's a lot harder without root
[17:12] <Seveas> teward: read up, he can't :)
[17:12] <teward> Seveas: E: No Scrollback - glitch in hexchat cleared the scrollback
[17:12]  * teward apologizes
[17:12] <Seveas> squeegily: neh, all it takes is a root exploit. Certainly google knows a few that are not public :)
[17:12] <squeegily> Now that is a creepy thought.
[17:13] <kostkon> squeegily, also you could download firfox nightly and enable the eme support. But it is still pretty unstable afaik
[17:13] <Seveas> squeegily: paranoia ftw :)
[17:14] <Darknet> o/
[17:14] <___Axel> Can anyone convince me of why I should switch to Linux (Ubuntu preferably)
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> ___Axel: probably not.
[17:14] <kostkon> squeegily, i think the eme plugin in firefox is made by adobe if that makes you feel any safer
[17:14] <___Axel> I have a medium gaming PC and I don't know if it's worth 250W for just running ubuntu
[17:14] <Darknet> ___Axel, don't
[17:15] <Darknet> if you have no real usage for it, don't.
[17:15] <SchrodingersScat> ___Axel: more of a choice you have to make yourself, you're welcome to try it out.
[17:15] <squeegily> kostkon: It's not WHO made the code; it's the open-source sandbox Mozilla made to contain it
[17:15] <Seveas> ___Axel: depends on your needs. For gaming windows is definitely still better, though steam has quite a few linux games these days.
[17:15] <kostkon> squeegily, fair enough. you could give it a try at least
[17:15] <squeegily> kostkon: Yeah I'm going to try Pipelight
[17:15] <kostkon> squeegily, i mean it's still unstable
[17:15] <kostkon> squeegily, ok
[17:16] <Darknet> ___Axel Ubuntu is a technical operating system, its not for the new user, and if you have to come in here and ask that. it is really not for you. Stick with windows, but feel free to install ubuntu beside your windows, and just reboot when you want to try it, or run VMWare, and have linux in there.
[17:16] <squeegily> WAIT I just read that the Nightly has EME?
[17:16] <squeegily> That's awesome
[17:16] <kostkon> squeegily, y. you need to manually enable it though.
[17:16] <___Axel> In 1.5 years I'd have to work with Linux for school
[17:17] <squeegily> Do you know off the top of your head how to do that? Or do I have to Google it ;)
[17:17] <___Axel> (Not specified what distro)
[17:17] <Skyrider> Linux is pretty easy to work with, once it works.
[17:17] <Seveas> ___Axel: in that case, try Ubuntu now for a headstart. What kind of school?
[17:18] <___Axel> I'm not sure what it's called in English, but I guess college
[17:18] <Seveas> ___Axel: I mean what kind of education? Computer science, physics, maths?
[17:18] <kostkon> squeegily, better google it ;)
[17:19] <detjko> hello
[17:19] <detjko> i have issue
[17:19] <detjko> on ubuntu 14.04
[17:19] <___Axel> Applied information technology, but there are still 3 branches I'd have to pick from
[17:19] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | detjko
[17:20] <Seveas> ___Axel: once you know a few more details about subjects, we may be able to help you pick things to try on Ubuntu :)
[17:20] <detjko> i installed guitar pro on wine em. and i cant hear sound in it, i never used wine can someone help about that?
[17:21] <___Axel> Yea it's still a little vague... All it says is "You will work with Linux, a stable ......."
[17:28] <bubbasaures> ___Axel, This is support for chat #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:30] <Shellshock> is there a way to control the fanspeed of my graphics card (amd 280x / 7970) with the open source drivers?
[17:33] <LordDragon> hey all. how much swap do i need if i have 32gb of ram and only a 100gb ssd?
[17:34] <cfhowlett> LordDragon, if you don't suspend, you don't need /swap
[17:34] <teward> ^
[17:34] <LordDragon> i wont be
[17:34] <LordDragon> ok cool thanks
[17:34] <LordDragon> :)
[17:35] <ursnation> LordDragon you dont need swap if you have that much ram, but disabling it is usually a bad idea so 1-2g would be fine
[17:35] <ararob> what can i do about this? http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/aedb3b7e , i installed libjpeg62 because scorched3d needs it, but....
[17:37] <rberg-> no matter how much ram Linux will find something to swap out, I always have a few GB of swap for that
[17:38] <Seveas> ararob: how did you install scorched3d?
[17:39] <ararob> Seveas, from a .deb package, which i converted from an .rpm because i need the latest build, building it from source proved not easy.
[17:39] <Seveas> ararob: that's a recipe for disaster.
[17:39] <ararob> Seveas, i know, but, no choice.
[17:39] <Seveas> get rid of it, sudo apt-get build-dep scorched3d and build from source
[17:40] <cfhowlett> ararob, pretty sure we advised that "alien" was not reliable.  source if you must.
[17:40] <ararob> yeah, source code keeps complaining about deprecated functions wxgtk package
[17:40] <ararob> *in
[17:41] <collizion> ararob: In no way is converting an rpm to a deb a reliable or supported solution.
[17:41] <ararob> yeah, it was a shot in the dark.
[17:41] <ararob> thanks guys.
[17:42] <Seveas> ararob: deprecation warnings are warnings, not errors. What's the actual error you get when compiling?
[17:42] <ararob> Seveas, 1 min.
[17:43] <theblindghoulie1> hi
[17:48] <paradisebunny> hi, i am on ubuntu 14.04, installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop and tried it for a bit, and decided against it. uninstalled with apt-get remove, and since then unity is buggy... what is the easiest way to fix this?
[17:48] <Seveas> paradisebunny: did you do an apt-get autoremove as well?
[17:48] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu | paradisebunny,
[17:48] <Xsploit> anyone got a prasing website
[17:49] <squeegily> Okay
[17:49] <Seveas> !pm | paradisebunny
[17:49] <squeegily> I finally got EME enabled and the user agent spoofed
[17:49] <squeegily> Let's see if Ubuntu really can play Netflix
[17:49] <Seveas> *drumroll*
[17:49] <bubbasaures> paradisebunny, I would do a install reinstall of the ubuntu-desktop  we don't really know everything you have done, what you have described so far should not be happening.
[17:50] <cfhowlett> paradisebunny, easily done: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[17:50] <ararob> Seveas, you're right, it was just warning, the build fails at, "Makefile:944: recipe for target '../wxdialogs/DisplayDialog.o' failed" , and i have installed all the -dev packages, as far as i know.
[17:50] <bubbasaures> thanks cfhowlett
[17:50] <Seveas> ararob: did you do the apt-get build-dep thing?
[17:50] <ararob> Seveas, yes
[17:51] <cfhowlett> bubbasaures, happytohelp
[17:51] <ararob> Seveas, also, the warnings are in ../wxdialogs/DisplayDialog.cpp
[17:51] <ararob> Seveas, i guess the failure is somehow related?
[17:51] <Seveas> ararob: can you pastebin the entire build output?
[17:51] <ararob> sure
[17:51] <squeegily> Welp. It's not working. :/ Oh well
[17:52] <MesaKillsGPUs> hello, im an overheating witness, does anyone have time to talk about fan control for a minute?
[17:53] <ararob> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/ET43Uev0
[17:53] <khudher> hello guys :)
[17:53] <Seveas> ararob: looks like the ubuntu package has some wx compatibility patches. apt-get source scorched3d and apply the patches to the source you grabbed.
[17:53] <bubbasaures> MesaKillsGPUs, response here is based on issue descriptions.
[17:54] <che2000> does anyone use dm-crypt to encrypt their hard disks?
[17:55] <Seveas> che2000: the ubuntu standard is luks (if you choose full disk encryption when installing) and/or ecryptfs (when selecting 'encrypt homedir'), so I doubt you'll find dm-crypt users in here
[17:56] <ararob> Seveas, but apt-get gets the 43.3 version of scorched3d, and i'm trying to compiled .44
[17:56] <che2000> Hi Seveas, I think luks is basically the same as dm-crypt (at least one of hte options)
[17:56] <ararob> -d
[17:57] <Seveas> ararob: apt-get source gets you the source, so you can copy and apply the patches to your .44 version
[17:58] <Seveas> che2000: hmm, a quick glance at the wikipedia page suggests that you may be right. Maybe you'll be lucky then :)
[17:58] <haskeer> Does anyone know how to remove defective PPA repositories? They fail to update with apt-get update
[17:58] <Seveas> haskeer: ppa-purge
[17:58] <haskeer> Cheers seveas
[17:59] <haskeer> And is there a way to list all available apt-get applications or do I just need to blindly guess and hope its in the repository?
[17:59] <haskeer> Im not a fan of the ubuntu software centre
[17:59] <che2000> Seveas: I am pretty sure that the installer sets up dm-crypt for the full disk encryption (probably using the default options). I am just trying to do this configuration manually so that only my home directory is encrypted.
[18:00] <che2000> haskeer: apt-cache search --- searches the software database
[18:00] <bubbasaures> haskeer, Be careful just cruising the repos, chances are there is a linux version of what you want, I would just focus there.
[18:00] <che2000> haskeer: 'apt seach' works too in the newer versions of apt
[18:01] <Mathis> keryx isnt in the repository?
[18:01] <Seveas> che2000: dm-crypt/luks are for full volume encryptions. If you want just the homedir, ecryptfs is the way to go.
[18:01] <xchatter> With what command can I show the folder size of /home and all its subfolders and content? Want to see if /home fits on an USB stick
[18:01] <haskeer> Cheers, and I'm not after any external apps yet, just wanting to get my bearings. Last unix OS I used was BTr3
[18:02] <cryptopsy> what's the name of the kernel driver for charging a phone by usb?
[18:02] <Seveas> haskeer: there's synaptic, aptitude, or just less /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages :)
[18:02] <bubbasaures> haskeer, Cool, there is synaptic as a gui apt tool, I just use apt-get myself generally.
[18:02] <che2000> Seveas: that's true, but dm-crypt is much faster than encryptfs. My home directory is in a separate partition, so I think it should be possible to encrypt just that partition
[18:03] <Seveas> che2000: yes it shoud in that case
[18:03] <haskeer> Alright, cheers for the help
[18:04] <squinty> haskeer:  fwiw, in Software and Updates you can add/remove/disable ppa's simply by clicking.  for viewing the repo's (besides using the software center)you may want to install Synaptpic package manager
[18:05] <haskeer> squinty: Is Synaptpic another software centre client?
[18:06] <squinty> haskeer:  copy/paste into a terminal   apt-cache show synaptic  for details
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> !synaptic | haskeer
[18:07] <bubbasaures> haskeer, Synaptic precedes the software center by years.
[18:07] <squinty> or that  :P
[18:07] <haskeer> Sounds good, cheers guys
[18:08] <squeegily> 0o0 434MB of 9001 lib32 deps for Pipelight
[18:09] <squeegily> I'm not sure if this is worth it or if I should hold out for EME
[18:09] <haskeer> I've heard its pretty easy to access someones public IP over IRC. Any truth to it?
[18:09] <squeegily> haskeer: Yeah. poetazus's is 88.214.163.67
[18:09] <squeegily> hehehe
[18:09] <Seveas> haskeer: that's a but OT here, we stick to Ubuntu support.
[18:10] <haskeer> Fair enough, I'l look into it elsewhere. Thanks again
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !vhost | | haskeer
[18:10] <cryptopsy> bye for now
[18:11] <haskeer> ubottu: Cheers, got a few more questions but Il look into it elsewhere, don't want to flood the chat with OT conversation
[18:11] <haskeer> Well. It had me fooled
[18:12] <Seveas> it has more intelligence than some of our regulars...
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> haskeer: you can ask ip/vhost related issues in #freenode as the trigger shows
[18:12] <haskeer> lotuspsychje: Cheers
[18:13] <haskeer> Seveas: And wouldn’t surprise me hehe
[18:17] <ararob> Seveas, so i applied all the patches, the -wx patch was the last, and it warned me that some parts of the patch were already applied, but i patched the source anyway, and did sh ./autogen ,and make -j2 again, with same result.
[18:19] <mous_> hi
[18:25] <xubuntu-sol-bsas> Hello everyone, I'm new at xubuntu. It seems like there was a problem during the upgrades installation, and it was not completed. Now the system is running in a mode that looks like "safe mode", and I cannot connect to the internet. Also the screen looks like pixeled. What should I do? is there any way of unistalling these last updates?
[18:26] <cfhowlett> xubuntu-sol-bsas, now that I've seen the entire problem, I think reinstallation is the way to go.
[18:26] <jhutchins> xubuntu-sol-bsas: The best way to undo the upgrade is to restore the backup you made before you did it.
[18:27] <xubuntu-sol-bsas> Ok, thank you everyone!
[18:30] <ararob> Seveas, i had version 3.0 of everything with *wx* in it, uninstalled those packages, and installed 2.8, now it compiles. :)
[18:30] <Seveas> ararob: woo!
[18:31] <karthik_> hi guys here is problem while installing package gdb : Depends: libpython3.4 (>= 3.4~b1) but it is not going to be installed
[18:31] <karthik_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:33] <Seveas> karthik_: and what happens if you try to install libpython3.4?
[18:33] <karthik_> same error
[18:33] <Seveas> should at least be more informative. Pastebin the full output of both commands.
[18:36] <karthik_> Seveas: libpython3.4 : Depends: libpython3.4-stdlib (= 3.4.0-2ubuntu1) but 3.4.2-1+precise1 is to be installed
[18:36] <Seveas> karthik_: are you still on precise?
[18:38] <karthik_> Seveas: yes
[18:39] <Seveas> karthik_: looks like you have been mucking about with adding unsupported repos. Maybe backports. Clean that up and apt-get will be happier.
[18:40] <comp10> how to find unallocated partion use bash?
[18:40] <cfhowlett> comp10 sudo fdisk -l
[18:43] <sn4k3> buona sera a tutti
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> !it | sn4k3
[18:43] <comp10> cfhowlett, thx. in result after type that command, i can not see indicator allocated/unallocated.how to know(read)?
[18:43] <ararob> Seveas, not so fast. it reached a point where it says http://pastebin.com/rPUb8Mfp , include files not included?
[18:47] <comp10> cfhowlett, but when i'm login for my system use root account , in default gnome app for see partion, i can see it (unallocated partion).when i'm try to format, it was failed. cause that i want to solve it with bash (format unallocated partion)
[18:47] <cfhowlett> comp try sudo cfdisk
[18:47] <comp10> cfhowlett, ok,i will try
[18:48] <comp10> cfhowlett, it is cool.
[18:49] <cfhowlett> comp10, happy2help!
[18:51] <comp10> cfhowlett, yes.thx
[18:51] <comp10> cfhowlett, i see list of partions
[18:51] <comp10> cfhowlett, in 'fs type' column, is it mean 'unallocated'?
[18:52] <comp10> cfhowlett, that i mean i see "free space", it mean 'unallocated"?
[18:52] <blackyboy> btrfs now in production environment ? Can i use in production ?
[18:52] <cfhowlett> comp10, correct
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | blackyboy
[18:53] <blackyboy> oh cool
[18:54] <wxl> ok, i got a fun one for you chaps: logitech t630 bluetooth mouse. has keyboard events that i'd like to disable. how?
[18:54] <comp10> cfhowlett, is 'new' option=format?
[18:55] <wxl> i tried disabling the buttons with xinput, but that didn't really do much.
[18:55] <comp10> cfhowlett, which i choose, 'new' or 'write'?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> wxl: maybe gpointing-device-settings can help you
[18:55] <cfhowlett> comp10, I rarely use cfdisk ... fdisk fits me better :)  read the man cfdisk page.  new makes a new partition.  write actually makes the changes you've set
[18:56] <wxl> lotuspsychje: i'm in kubuntu but i'll give it a go
[18:57] <wxl> lotuspsychje: nope, segault
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> !info gpointing-device-settings | wxl
[18:57] <comp10> cfhowlett, ok, thx .. i will read it .thx
[18:57] <wxl> lotuspsychje: well ahead of you, but no workie.
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> wxl: what command did you type for install?
[18:58] <wxl> lotuspsychje: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install gpointing-device-settings
[18:59] <wxl> lotuspsychje: the issue is not installation, but the fact that it segfauls on run.
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> oh
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> wxl: well i never tested it on kubuntu myself
[19:00]  * wxl shrugs
[19:00] <wxl> of course we don't even know that it will actually work, so we might be chasing a red herring
[19:02] <wxl> i'll go see if they can find anything better i guess
[19:05] <Pukc> hello
[19:06] <MesaKillsGPUs> hello :)
[19:06] <Pukc> :)
[19:06] <Pukc> how are you?
[19:07] <MesaKillsGPUs> im fine but i still dont know how to control my gpus fans
[19:07] <MesaKillsGPUs> :D
[19:07] <squeegily> MesaKillsGPUs: I don't think it does though. My friend had a fried graphics card that could only be used in safe mode
[19:07] <squeegily> With the Mesa driver
[19:07] <MesaKillsGPUs> this name is grossly exaggregated
[19:08] <MesaKillsGPUs> i just searched the whole day for a solution to controling my fanspeed because i have an aftermarket cooler
[19:08] <MesaKillsGPUs> and still havent found it
[19:08] <MesaKillsGPUs> :D
[19:08] <squeegily> Make your own water cooling system
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> !info psensor | MesaKillsGPUs
[19:08] <jhutchins> MesaKillsGPUs: Fan Speed Control is a motherboard/BIOS function.  Some boards have an interface for control, but not all.
[19:09] <MesaKillsGPUs> i have found psensor, but im searching for a way to control the fans of my graphics card (amd 280x / 7970)
[19:10] <MesaKillsGPUs> which only worked with fglrx
[19:12] <Dulcin> Is there a way to see which file is keeping a specific port occupied (instead of the program/id, I want to see exactly what is running)?
[19:12] <Defunkt> netstat -atunp
[19:15] <Pukc> mumble
[19:21] <subterfugium> anyone know what's wrong with gnome-lirc-properties? missing dependency to HAL even if I'm using trusty which has ha lintegrated udev?
[19:21] <subterfugium> I found several bugs bot no workarounds
[19:22] <Dalvlad> Hello wrold :)
[19:27] <cristian_c> Hello
[19:27] <cristian_c> I'm using 14.04 trusty, but I can't make working wifi connection
[19:28] <cristian_c> Wifi chip is rtl8821ae, and I don't see my network in the network manager applet
[19:28] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:29] <jhutchins> cristian_c: First step is dmesg | less and look for relevant messages as it loads.
[19:29] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Also ifconfig /a to see if the interface shows up.
[19:30] <cristian_c> jhutchins, interface is shown, other networks are detected, but not mine
[19:31] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Interesting.  Are you not broadcasting the SSID perhaps?
[19:31] <nmatrix9> Hey guys just had something weird happen I installed 2 new plasma widgets veromo mix volume control and a load viewer on my top panel.  I logged out of the kdm session and logged back in and then all of a sudden this happened to the panel: http://picpaste.com/snapshot1-L0IGIcbW.png
[19:31] <jhutchins> cristian_c: If it detects other networks then we pretty much know it's working and it's something special about your network.
[19:31] <cristian_c> jhutchins, with stock kernel (3.13.x) dmesg shows some messages (from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz and from 5 GHz to 2.4 GHz), With 3.18.x kernel these messages disappear but I can't select my network anyway
[19:31] <nmatrix9> I removed those widgets did a reboot, fsck and nothing changed
[19:32] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, run iwconfig
[19:32] <basichash> How do I clear all notifications?
[19:32] <nmatrix9> Iam trying to figure out wtf happened and how can I restore normal color back to my desktop
[19:32] <basichash> the 'battery critically low' notification is stuck on my screen
[19:33] <basichash> there's no 'close' icon
[19:33] <cristian_c> jhutchins, no, I've set up the SSID properly
[19:33] <nmatrix9> There's an application called "active-settings" and all it's showing is a black screen
[19:33] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Do you have any other wireless devices that see it?
[19:33] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Is it on a compatible mode?
[19:33] <quidnunc> I have 2 disks, an SSD and a slower rotational disk. I want to divide my home directory among those disks so that directories with large files are on rotational storage and everything else is on the SSD. Right now I have /home on the SSD and am using symlinks on the directories with large files. But I don't like this solution, symlinks are treated differently than normal files and I have to constantly remember to accomodate them.
[19:33] <quidnunc> there a better solution?
[19:34] <nmatrix9> Is there a command or option to reset my plasma desktop to default?
[19:34] <nmatrix9> in Kubuntu
[19:34] <nmatrix9> The colors are all screwed up
[19:35] <compdoc> quidnunc, you can use fstab to mount directories on the various drives
[19:37] <quidnunc> compdoc: Messy with lots of directories
[19:38] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, try this link http://bit.ly/1Ajo6qX
[19:39] <subterfugium> anyone know what's wrong with gnome-lirc-properties? missing dependency to HAL even if I'm using trusty which has ha lintegrated udev?
[19:39] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak,  Iam worried I may have downloaded some sort of kde widget that somehow is a conflict with the the plasma workspace
[19:41] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, Try this one - http://bit.ly/1vRFKOw
[19:41] <cristian_c> jhutchins, yeah, usb wifi card
[19:41] <cristian_c> jhutchins, I think it's in automatic mode
[19:42] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, the command didn't work
[19:43] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, Try this one - http://bit.ly/1vRFKOw
[19:43] <glitch256> morning all i have a doozi of a question and wonderin if here or another chat is best for it
[19:43] <glitch256> im trying to play a bluray disk
[19:44] <MesaKillsGPUs> how can i mine buttcoins with ubuttu?
[19:44] <cristian_c> !paste
[19:44] <jhutchins> glitch256: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:46] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9661143/
[19:46] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, also something to note my All Applications -> Settings when I click on it just gives me a black screen, just something to note
[19:46] <BluesKaj> cristian_c,  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:47] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, then, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[19:47] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, but it's already up
[19:48] <cristian_c> :O
[19:48] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, the last command should show the essid
[19:48] <glitch256> jhutchins: i have installed makemkv libaacs libbluray  basically followed all the tutorials i have found online try running makemkv and stream to vlc or xbmc  nothing happens try to play with  vlc or xbmc nothing happens  cant even get any error codes  but i can rip the bluray and have the file
[19:49] <glitch256> jhutchins:  sorry for the long post  but i felt it was better than multi lines
[19:50] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, it returns only the prompt
[19:50] <cristian_c> ah, sorry '-i essid', I try
[19:50] <BluesKaj> what about network manager , have you checked it since, cristian_c ?
[19:51] <cristian_c> ok, it returns a list of essids
[19:51] <cristian_c> but my network it's not listed
[19:51] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, it worked!
[19:52] <cristian_c> four essids returned
[19:52] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, awesome!
[19:52] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, and I've narrowed the cause of the issue
[19:52] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, what was it?
 what about network manager , have you checked it since, cristian_c ?
[19:52] <cristian_c> can you explain the question better?
[19:53] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, I have a application in my kubuntu start menu called "settings" when I click on it, it brings up a window with title called "active-settings" I believe it is a kde desktop settings app, but it looks like it's borked
[19:53] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, because the moment I click on it, that's when the issue appears all over again.
[19:54] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, Iam wondering if there is a way to reinstall that kde-desktop settings app again
[19:54] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, Iam gonna try it with synaptic
[19:55] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, does network manager show your essid ?
[19:55] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, no
[19:55] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, I think I found it,  It's called plasma-active-settings  Iam gonna purge it.
[19:56] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, with this chip, no
[19:56] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, get at it
[19:56] <BluesKaj> if so click on it and enter your passwd and it should connect
 jhutchins, interface is shown, other networks are detected, but not mine
[19:56] <glitch256> nmatrix9:  thinking purge and reinstall  make sure you take config files with it
[19:56] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, no, it's not shown, I've tried to add it manually
[19:57] <cristian_c> typing the essid
[19:58] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, what router/ap brand/model are you trying to connect to?
[19:59] <Skyrider> What is plymouth ?
[19:59] <Skyrider> I get this on my laptop when HDMI is connected.
[19:59] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, it's provided from the ISP
[19:59] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, do you know if it is trying to do any speedboosting, like wireless-n 300 or something?
[19:59] <danishanish> What's a good task manager besides the vanilla one?
[20:00] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, I can access to configuration interface of the router, what have I to check about it?
[20:01] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, I don't know because I can use other wifi cards
[20:01] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, we just want to make sure it is running a vanilla version of any of the wireless specs - b,g,n
[20:01] <bubbasaures> danishanish, You might look at conkies tons of configs out there,
[20:01] <dts|pokeball> can anyone recommend good sandboxes for ubuntu?
[20:01] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, ok
[20:01] <bubbasaures> danishanish, app is conky
[20:02] <glitch256> ok any one have any ideas where i can find help with getting bluray to play on my computer
[20:02] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, what wireless chipset are you using?
[20:02] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, actually this computer is connected with 802.11g
[20:02] <glitch256> ubuntu 14.04
[20:03] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, the buggy chipset is rtl8821ae
[20:03] <cristian_c> this chipset is atheros, instead
[20:05] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, did you try sudo dhclient wlan0
[20:05] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:06] <danishanish> THANKS BUBBASAURUS
[20:06] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, no
[20:06] <BluesKaj> or are you using 2 different chipsets, cristian_c?
[20:06] <flipsidecreation> is anyone running a 4K setup with Ubuntu?  I don't play games, just looking for a reasonably prices 4k video card that works with Ubuntu
[20:07] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, usb wifi is disconnected
[20:07] <danishanish> can you signature a document through terminal?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, so thew internal chipset is the problem?
[20:08] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, if I type sudo dhclient wlan0, shell waits
[20:09] <dgarstang> I'm having a little trouble with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat8 ... how would I add that PPA?
[20:09] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, I think the internal chip is the problem, in 12.04 drivers don't exist
[20:09] <ikonia> dgarstang: I advise against that
[20:09] <dgarstang> ikonia: y?
[20:10] <ikonia> dgarstang: because it's not made by the team who build/maintain ubuntu
[20:10] <glitch256> flipsidecreation:  im liking my visiontec 900690
[20:10] <ikonia> dgarstang: and I suspect you probably don't 'need' tomcat 8
[20:10] <dgarstang> ikonia: I don't know. That's what the devs asked for. Evaluating
[20:11] <ikonia> dgarstang: if you can't work out how to add the PPA - then you should really consider not using it as it will have dependencies for core things, such as java
[20:11] <ikonia> dgarstang: I assume you're trying to do this on ubuntu 14.01 ?
[20:11] <flipsidecreation> glitch256: How does Ubuntu scale with the 4k resolution?
[20:11] <ikonia> 14.04 sorry
[20:12] <dgarstang> ikonia: The UI has changed and the doc which says to look for the 'add' section, well it doesn't appear to be there
[20:16] <xangua> dgarstang: that is not a PPA to begin with
[20:18] <edu> is there a command in the terminal to show all the commands that can be used in the terminal? also, is there a document that shows each command and what it does?
[20:18] <cristian_c> edu, man command
[20:19] <Troy^> where do i find transmission's config files i used the package manager to install it
[20:20] <jatt> edu: xman
[20:20] <edu> man, just says 'what manual page do you want?'
[20:20] <jatt> edu: xman then select section 1
[20:20] <xangua> ~/.config/transmission I guess Troy^
[20:20] <Troy^> xangua: it's not there
[20:20] <edu> ahh ty
[20:20] <gnubie> edu>   I find this helpful    http://www.tuxarena.com/intro/cheatsheet.html
[20:20] <Seveas> edu: to see all commands: ls ${PATH//:/ } -- to find a manual use the man command, like 'man ls'
[20:21] <EriC^^> !cookie | jatt , very nice
[20:21] <EriC^^> :)
[20:22] <edu> thx for the help guys
[20:23] <Bashing-om> edu: Also :: http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/r10735/unixcomm.html <-summary of useful Linux abbreviations, directories, files, and commands , http://linuxcommand.org/ .
[20:23] <Guest44254> coucou
[20:23] <Guest44254> comment faire pour changer ip sur ubuntu??
[20:23] <EriC^^> edu: the gnu cmdline summary is pretty cool too http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary.pdf
[20:25] <azbesht85_> list
[20:25] <edu> nice, thx all, ive bookmarked all those links for future reference
[20:26] <edu> i want to learn how to use the terminal in all its glory, not just copy and paste other people's commands
[20:29] <Bashing-om> edu: Then ^ :: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0060.php <-learnng the shell , http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz <=advanced command line tutorial .
[20:31] <glitch256> flipsidecreation: very well use the  proprietary drivers you may need to xrandr the overscan  but works very well using 4 monitors
[20:32] <flipsidecreation> glitch256: Thanks.  I am looking at that card and maybe the Samsung 4k monitor to go with it.
[20:35] <glitch256> i use 4 large screen lcd tvs that have been handed down lets just say the extra power behind it is worth it
[20:36] <flipsidecreation> I have dual screens now, perhaps I will just more screens until prices drop
[20:37] <flipsidecreation> 1920x1200 isn't bad, but when I am doing remote support with clients that also have high res its gets to be a pain
[20:38] <RNeville> I just started using dual monitors- I feel like I just rediscovered the power of the personal computer; would like at least three monitors, now!
[20:39] <mucus> hello!  i'm used to using notepad++ on my windows machine for text editing and whatnot, what's similar and available for ubu?
[20:40] <flipsidecreation> mucus: geany is what I use
[20:40] <flipsidecreation> I have not used Notepad++ but Geany has worked great for me for editing code and misc files
[20:41] <mucus> thank ya kindly
[20:41] <glitch256> mucus:  i like gedit for most of my simple work aka outlining term papers
[20:42] <mucus> oh yummy
[20:42] <mucus> geany is perfect!
[20:43] <flipsidecreation> :)
[20:48] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, did you look at this yet? - http://bit.ly/1D0glKd May not be directly associated with your router
[20:52] <knoedl> hi, I just freshly installed 14.10 and am having trouble booting, I get a "invalid magic number" error when grub tries to load the kernel
[20:52] <knoedl> (i did it manually and i got it on the "linux /boot/vmlinuz..." command in the grub prompt)
[20:52] <knoedl> anyone knows how to solve this?
[20:52] <alvarezp> Hi. How do I add a [<-] and [->] button to the scrollbars?
[20:53] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, Here's another one - http://bit.ly/1ygDaHG
[20:53] <alvarezp> Sorry, incomplete question: How do I add a [<-] and [->] button to the scrollbars *without using overlay scrollbars*?
[20:59] <rimad> hey guys, i want tomcat7 user to be able to read my home directory, i added tomcat7 to my group and have 770 chmod to the directory i want to make available to tomcat7
[20:59] <rimad> however i still get permission denied :/
[20:59] <rimad> any ideas what I could do?
[21:08] <lahwran> how do I temporarily shut off ipv6 on an interface?
[21:08] <lahwran> while keeping ipv4 on
[21:12] <jhutchins> rimad: That's sort of backwards.
[21:13] <jhutchins> rimad: You could make tomcat7 a member of the rimad group, which is probably the group owner of the files, or change group ownership of the files to tomcat7.
[21:13] <squinty> lahwran: network manager has options for that  Edit > ipv6
[21:13] <lahwran> let me rephrase. I'm on a vps, ubuntu server edition
[21:14] <lahwran> I need to do it from the commandline
[21:15] <pipi-> lahwran: http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
[21:16] <jhutchins> lahwran: This looks useful http://www.taylorbyte.com/smf/index.php?topic=2.0
[21:16] <lahwran> kay, thanks
[21:18] <levo> where can i find desktop sharing settings on lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS? also asked in #lubuntu but no answer
[21:19] <jhutchins> levo: You could also try #lxde - i don't know if it has an internal desktop sharing configuration.
[21:19] <jhutchins> levo: you can use VNC or RDP
[21:19] <Kartagis> levo: should be in Preferences
[21:21] <lahwran> anyone have any idea why icmp would work over ipv6, but tcp would get dropped? I flushed iptables, so that's not the problem
[21:22] <magicpat2010> Hello, I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu 14.04 Server where, if I execute a java .jar file, I lose my SSH connection and no logs are recorded. Any thoughts?
[21:22] <ikonia> magicpat2010: what are you launching ?
[21:22] <ikonia> lahwran: sounds interesting how do you verify the TCP connection is not working /
[21:22] <jatt> which jar file?
[21:23] <pipi-> "DisableNetworkConnectivty.jar"
[21:23] <magicpat2010> ikonia: It's Minecraft related, but one is jar to download and build spigot (server software) and the other jar actually runs the minecraft server
[21:23] <lahwran> netcat isn't able to connect to the irc servers I want to connect to, nor to google.com, when told to use ipv6. it works over ipv4. mtr -u6 doesn't work, mtr -6 does, to the irc server and to google. tcptraceroute6 gets no responses.
[21:23] <ikonia> magicpat2010: so what is the one thats causing the connection to drop ?
[21:24] <magicpat2010> ikonia: both
[21:24] <ikonia> magicpat2010: what happens if you do it on the console
[21:24] <ikonia> lahwran: what about if you just say telnet google.com 80 over your ipv6 address,
[21:24] <magicpat2010> ikonia: What do you mean?
[21:25] <lahwran> ikonia: okay, why is that different from netcat?
[21:25] <ikonia> magicpat2010: if you run the jar from the host console,
[21:25] <ikonia> lahwran: it shouldn't be - but it can be hence why I'm asking you to try
[21:25] <ikonia> to find out if netcat is the problem or not
[21:25] <lahwran> kay. it said "Trying 2607:f8b0:400d:c06::65..." and is now sitting.
[21:25] <lahwran> I typed in "GET / HTTP/1.0" for good measure
[21:26] <ikonia> lahwran: I'm going to make a common guess here, it's seen quiet often in this channel
[21:26] <ikonia> lahwran: your ISP does no have IPV6 transit
[21:26] <ikonia> lahwran: do an IPV6 traceroute
[21:26] <magicpat2010> ikonia: you mean from my computer? All of this is ran on a remote server through a terminal
[21:26] <ikonia> magicpat2010: get a remote console plugged in
[21:26] <lahwran> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/7ab80761739da0bef29a
[21:27] <ikonia> lahwran: no a trace route on your IPV6 network
[21:27] <ikonia> not a ping
[21:27] <lahwran> traceroute specifically? why? doing
[21:27] <ikonia> lahwran: do see where the route drops
[21:27] <lahwran> traceroute is coming back with nothing
[21:27] <techsuperfreak> lahwran: you didn't try to telnet to port 80
[21:27] <ikonia> lahwran: what is the exact command you are doing
[21:28] <lahwran> traceroute -6 2607:f8b0:4002:802::1005
[21:28] <ikonia> techsuperfreak: nope, nor is his other commands valid
[21:28] <lahwran> techsuperfreak: I didn't?
[21:28] <ikonia> lahwran: what is that to ?
[21:28] <lahwran> oops, you're right.
[21:28] <lahwran> ikonia: google's ipv6 address
[21:28] <lahwran> okay, telnet -6 google.com 80
[21:30] <magicpat2010> ikonia: When I run either jar file, it begins to start executing like normal but then it closes my SSH connection and I can't reconnect for a bit.
[21:31] <ikonia> lahwran: magicpat2010 right, thats why I told you to run it on the console
[21:31] <kajun> xsxxsssxxssxsxssxxs
[21:31] <magicpat2010> ikonia: sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "the console"
[21:31] <kajun> Changed some options, sorry about that
[21:32] <ikonia> magicpat2010: a console, as in the servers console
[21:32] <techsuperfreak> magicpat2010:  have you tried 2 ssh sessions and monitor one while launching the jar on the other?
[21:32] <David1965> I am trying to get BIGNUM.C to work as part of a random number generator all works except the fact that four digits don't get processed on the sixth block or am I doing something wrong also I am trying to use FOUR1.CPP as the basis for BIGNUM.C
[21:32] <lahwran> yes, that's where I'm running it
[21:32] <ikonia> lahwran: sorry, that wasn't meant for you, sorry
[21:32] <lahwran> oh
[21:33] <bahamat> Anybody know what’s up with this (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/releasesTable) having invalid json? Or better yet, where I can file a bug?
[21:33] <David1965> magicpat2010 I think ikonia means terminal is it not
[21:34] <ikonia> I don't mean the terminal
[21:34] <ikonia> I mean on the servers physical console
[21:34] <magicpat2010> techsuperfreak: I've ran My traceroute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR_%28software%29 while connected via ssh and it shows that it disconnects.
[21:35] <magicpat2010> ikonia: Can I do that when it's at a remote location?
[21:35] <David1965> I am bumbozeled
[21:35] <techsuperfreak> magicpat2010:  It disconnects all ssh connections or just the one that you are launching the jar from?
[21:35] <ikonia> magicpat2010: you ask the hosting provider to put a network/virtual console on it fo ryou
[21:35] <David1965> exit
[21:35] <magicpat2010> techsuperfreak: I'll try it now, it will take a couple seconds.
[21:36] <ikonia> its probably flooding the connection with java output, hence dropping the connection,
[21:36] <ikonia> his ISP is probably some badly setup virtual server
[21:36] <ikonia> hosting provider I mean
[21:37] <techsuperfreak> ikonia, distinct possibility
[21:37] <ikonia> seen it loads of times on badly configured host/guests
[21:37] <lahwran> so ikonia, to recap: `ping6 google.com` works. `telnet -6 google.com 80` does not. `traceroute -6 google.com` does not.
[21:37] <magicpat2010> techsuperfreak: it kills both ssh connections
[21:37] <lahwran> the latter two both fail with timeouts.
[21:38] <ikonia> lahwran can you post the output of the traceroute please in a pastebin
[21:38] <lahwran> magicpat2010: do it in tmux?
[21:38] <ikonia> that won't help the ssh session controlling the tmux session
[21:38] <lahwran> it will when you reconnect
[21:38] <ikonia> no it won't if the controlling session on the PTS dies
[21:38] <ikonia> who knows though
[21:38] <ararob> can i "disable" a package in the respiratory,  so it will never be considered as a dependency ?
[21:39] <ikonia> ararob: no
[21:39] <ikonia> ararob: it will just fail the dependency check
[21:39] <ararob> ugh
[21:39] <lahwran> you can make a package that claims to provide that package
[21:39] <magicpat2010> lahwran: I'll try tmux the session, but I've tried screen and the screen session disappears after it disconnects me
[21:39] <lahwran> why do you want to do this? it's difficult
[21:39] <lahwran> magicpat2010: wat
[21:39] <lahwran> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/9c576ed26fe5236d2744
[21:40] <leeyaa> hello
[21:40] <ararob> lahwran, because i want to install an old package, but, apt keeps trying to install the a newer one with it
[21:40] <leeyaa> does anyone know how to fix this on login : Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@0.service
[21:40] <ararob> -a
[21:40] <ikonia> lahwran: I bet your ISP doesn't have IPV6 transit
[21:40] <ikonia> lahwran: I would ask them
[21:40] <lahwran> ikonia: what does that mean? as I said, I can ping things over ipv6
[21:40] <magicpat2010> ikonia: This is a server through SoYouStart (OVH) is that something I would have to setup to not flood ssh?
[21:41] <ikonia> lahwran: yeah, that would still work
[21:41] <lahwran> so obviously *something* of ipv6 works
[21:41] <ikonia> magicpat2010: I hve no idea what "soyoustart" is
[21:41] <traekili> obv
[21:41] <lahwran> that doesn't make any sense. if ping works, why wouldn't tcp?
[21:41] <ikonia> lahwran: because ICMP is not TCP transit
[21:42] <magicpat2010> ikonia: It's a hosting service that provides dedicated servers.
[21:42] <ikonia> magicpat2010: ask them to put the virtual / network console on your guest then
[21:42] <bahamat> lahwran: Try traceroute -I to use ICMP
[21:42] <ubunted> Installing ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 fails with "'grub-install /dev/sda' failed" , no specific error given
[21:42] <lahwran> wait, what does traceroute normally use? I thought it used ICMP
[21:42] <bahamat> lahwran: Looks like your provider is blocking TTL Exceeded messages.
[21:42] <bahamat> lahwran: Normally it uses UDP
[21:42] <ikonia> bahamat: thats an interesing idea
[21:43] <magicpat2010> ikonia: Any thoughts as to why it worked before but not now. Also, I'll put in a request.
[21:43] <ararob> for example i want to install libwxgtk2.8-dev, but it keeps wanting to install libwxbase3.0 and wx-common(this one is okay)
[21:43] <ikonia> magicpat2010: no
[21:43] <lahwran> ah. traceroute -I6 works: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/9c576ed26fe5236d2744
[21:43] <ikonia> ararob: let it install the dependencies
[21:43] <ikonia> ararob: why do you not want to install the dependencies ?
[21:44] <lahwran> ararob: apt has version pinning
[21:44] <ikonia> that wo'nt fix broken dependencies
[21:44] <ubunted> any clue ?
[21:44] <bahamat> ikonia: I’ve seen a lot of providers that block TTL Exceeded as a “security” feature.
[21:44] <ikonia> bahamat: it's a good thought
[21:44] <ikonia> I'd not considered that
[21:44] <lman111> hi there, would this be an acceptable place to ask for support with ubuntu server 14.04 running on a HP ProLiant Microserver Gen8 ? having trouble with the Raid Controller in AHCI SATA Mode
[21:44] <ikonia> I normally see VPS providers not enabling transit on the IPV6 routers
[21:44] <ikonia> lman111: just ask
[21:45] <lahwran> ikonia: so what do I tell them to fix?
[21:45] <lahwran> what exactly is ipv6 transit?
[21:45] <ararob> ikonia, because it interferes with a compilation of a program. i want that program to run with the old package.
[21:45] <ikonia> lahwran: nothing, ask them why it's not working
[21:45] <lahwran> ikonia: this is the first time I've heard of "transit" as a separate thing from "tcp"
[21:45] <ikonia> ararob: then you need to manage your dependencies buy building packages built against the right libraries
[21:45] <ikonia> lahwran: it's basically connection
[21:46] <bahamat> lahwran: It’s the same thing as IPv4 transit, but a different protocol.
[21:46] <lahwran> can you link me to an article explaining this
[21:46] <ikonia> lahwran: you can google it
[21:46] <lman111> well I have the server set in AHCI SATA mode, and I have 4 HDDS in the front bays, slot 1 is SSD running ub serv 14.04, the other 3 are just blank 2TBs. When i attempt to mount any drive i get "fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy" i think its to do with the raid controller
[21:46] <lahwran> bahamat: ipv4 "transit"?
[21:46] <ikonia> lahwran: why do I need to google it for you
[21:46] <lahwran> because you aren't giving me enough information to google it, I already tried and got useless results
[21:46] <lahwran> what is "transit", and how does it differ from just using ipv4 and tcp together?
[21:46] <ikonia> lman111: I don't think it is
[21:47] <ikonia> lman111: how are you trying to mount
[21:47] <bahamat> lahwran: think of “public transit system” i.e., the city bus. Transit is something that takes something from one place to another
[21:48] <lman111> i have tried ntfs-3g and mount.ntfs
[21:48] <bahamat> lahwran: it’s the proper way to say “connectivity”. It’s not IPv6 connectivity, it’s IPv6 transit.
[21:48] <lahwran> okay, you're just giving me generic explanations of what the name "transit" means. it sounds like you're just calling ipv4 and ipv6 by the name "transit", which would be perfectly sensible except that it also sounds like you're referring to transit as a separate thing
[21:48] <ikonia> lman111: how exactly are you mounting hem
[21:48] <lman111> with the mount command
[21:48] <lahwran> we've established that *I can communicate with icmp over ipv6*, so why doesn't *tcp over ipv6* work?
[21:48] <ikonia> lahwran: please show me the exact command
[21:48] <lman111> mount.ntfs /dev/sdd1 /mnt/point
[21:48] <ikonia> lman111: what file system is on sdd1 ?
[21:48] <lman111> should i be doing it by uuid ?
[21:48] <lman111> ntfs
[21:48] <lahwran> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/9c576ed26fe5236d2744
[21:49] <ikonia> lman111: is this a desktop ?
[21:49] <lman111> hp proliant microserver gen8 running ubuntu server 14.04
[21:49] <bahamat> lahwran: No. Saying your ISP provides IPv6 transit means that the fully suppor the IPv6 protocol both on their network and to other peer networks.
[21:49] <ikonia> lahwran: you showed that earlier
[21:49] <lahwran> ikonia: yes, and it answers what you're asking for
[21:49] <ikonia> lman111: so you are actually running it as a server
[21:49] <lman111> yeah
[21:49] <ikonia> lahwran: I'm not asking for anything
[21:49] <bahamat> lahwran: “transit” means someone that will provide transit between networks on your behalf.
[21:49] <lahwran> I don't know why you're asking again, the exact ping command that worked is in that gist
[21:50] <ikonia> lahwran: sorry, miss-tabbed
[21:50] <lman111> should it make a difference? Its odd that they cant mount when they are not in use
[21:50] <ikonia> lahwran: meant lman111
[21:50] <lahwran> oh.
[21:50] <ikonia> didn't see my miss-tab
[21:50] <bahamat> lahwran: and yes, it’s exactly as generic a word that you think it is. There’s no magic meaning.
[21:50] <lahwran> well that explains it, then.
[21:50] <ikonia> lman111: it looks like it's already being mounted under the fuse file system, can you pastebin the output of the command mount please
[21:50] <lahwran> bahamat: oh. but again, *I can communicate over ipv6 using icmp*, I just can't communicate over ipv6 using *tcp*. which is really wat.
[21:51] <lman111> ok
[21:51] <ikonia> icmp/tcp 2 different things
[21:51] <ikonia> hence no transit = no connection/traffic
[21:51] <ikonia> would it not be easier to just ask your provider
[21:51] <ikonia> they can confirm their network for you
[21:51] <lahwran> yeah, I've sent them a message
[21:51] <ikonia> rather than us guess
[21:52] <lahwran> look I don't know what you mean by transit here, but without what I thought you meant a minute ago, I would not be able to communicate over icmp
[21:52] <ikonia> yes you would
[21:52] <lahwran> no ipv6 transit? no icmp communication. but I *can* communicate over icmp
[21:52] <bahamat> lahwran: Are you sure about that? You’ll need to run tcpdump alongside something else and evaluate the flow. Ping or traceroute can’t prove that to you.
[21:52] <lman111> ikonia: sent
[21:52] <Hilikus> if i have two users in a server and they each have their user-mode pulseaudio, can they share the sound card? can they both play something at the same time?
[21:52] <lahwran> ah, now there's an idea.
[21:52] <ubunted> Installing ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 fails with "'grub-install /dev/sda' failed" , no specific error given
[21:52] <bahamat> lahwran: Then you might have one of the broken providers that’s really holding up the IPv6 transition.
[21:53] <Hilikus> it doesn't work in my setup but i don't know if it is supposed to be like that or i've misconfigured something
[21:53] <imufeed> Hello guys, I worked on my ubuntu last night and turned it off. Today when I turned it on I found it VERY SLOW. I searched the internet and finally I came to the conclusion that last night I ran the command: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". I have ATI graphics card and it is working probably. Do you know how can I resolve this problem?
[21:53] <ikonia> lman111: interesting
[21:54] <ikonia> lman111: please do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 /mnt/wherever"
[21:54] <ikonia> lman111: that exact command, what is the output
[21:54] <lman111> ikonia: i did it as root before but ok
[21:54] <lahwran> ikonia: icmp operates on top of IP. I'm definitely able to send IP datagrams out of the network, as ping6 demonstrates. please explain further what you mean by "ipv6 transport" that somehow behaves differently from that
[21:55] <ikonia> lahwran: I've just lost interest, as you seem to be arguing with me,
[21:55] <Hanumaan> I have grub2 installed in debian 7 but my remote computer is right now in debian6(first priority) .. I want it to boot in debian 7.. how to do that?
[21:55] <ikonia> lahwran: just ask your ISP to explain their network usage to you
[21:55] <collizion> ikonia: Don't be a dick.
[21:55] <lahwran> ikonia: I want to understand, but what you're saying isn't making sense :<
[21:55] <ikonia> collizion: what ?
[21:55] <collizion> lahwran: What's the trouble? Maybe I can help.
[21:56] <ikonia> collizion: please tone down the attitude and language towards please
[21:56] <ikonia> people
[21:56] <ikonia> Hanumaan: the guys in #debian can help
[21:56] <lahwran> collizion: let me extract our conversation
[21:56] <collizion> ikonia: No. Don't be a dick. You're confusing him, and instead of clarifying, you tell him that you've lost interest and that he's arguing.
[21:56] <bahamat> lahwran: You first need to tcpdump a TCP connection. Based on what you’ve told me so far, I believe that your provider is filtering packets. So unless you can provide more information you’ll have to take the issue up with them.
[21:56] <lahwran> bahamat: ah!
[21:57] <bahamat> lahwran: Though you may want to check your own ip6tables first.
[21:57] <lman111> ikonia: i sent cmd and output to privm
[21:57] <lman111> ikonia: still same
[21:57] <lahwran> bahamat: I flushed those before starting the experimentation
[21:57] <ikonia> lman111: I just saw it, thank you
[21:58] <bahamat> lahwran: Then I don’t think there’s much anyone here can do for you. Ubuntu in and of itself (as well as pretty much any distribution of Linux) has a well functioning IPv6 stack.
[22:00] <imufeed> Hello guys, I worked on my ubuntu last night and turned it off. Today when I turned it on I found it VERY SLOW. I searched the internet and finally I came to the conclusion that last night I ran the command: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". I have ATI graphics card and it is working probably. Do you know how can I resolve this problem?
[22:00] <bubbasaures> imufeed, Install htop run htop in the terminal and see what's running.
[22:01] <bubbasaures> dist-upgrade is a kernel and security call from apt-get
[22:03] <basichash> anyone know how to clear notifications?
[22:03] <basichash> i've got one that's stuck and not disappearing
[22:04] <collizion> basichash: I'll admit that I've only ever taken the cheesy way out, and logged out and back in.
[22:04] <collizion> basichash: I won't be much help.
[22:04] <basichash> collizion: yeah i don't want to lose all my opens windows, pain to set up
[22:05] <collizion> basichash: Understandable.
[22:05] <lahwran> bahamat: kay. I thought maybe I had configured something wrong.
[22:05] <collizion> basichash: Which Ubuntu release?
[22:06] <basichash> 14.04
[22:06] <basichash> using Pantheon as well
[22:06] <basichash> don't know if that's relevent though
[22:07] <bahamat> lahwran: If you’ve got transit, as ICMP proves that you do, then there’s not a lot you can screw up to break UDP/TCP only.
[22:07] <collizion> basichash: I'm not familiar with Pantheon.
[22:07] <lahwran> bahamat: okay, that sounds more like what I expected/asked here to verify
[22:08] <lahwran> I was worried I'd somehow broken my kernel or something
[22:10] <ubunted> Installing ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 fails with "'grub-install /dev/sda' failed" , no specific error given ...anyone with a clue?
[22:13] <andlabs> Is there a program that lets me compare many identically sized binary files? Googling doesn't give me anything that compares many binary files... and I'm an idiot for not uploading the one I wrote ages ago before the disk it was on died :(
[22:13] <ikonia> andlabs: md5
[22:13] <andlabs> (then its backup drive died too >:( )
[22:13] <ikonia> if they are the same the sum will be the same
[22:13] <andlabs> I suppose
[22:13] <collizion> andlabs: Might not be what you want, but you can just sha1sum them and compare the outputs?
[22:14] <andlabs> ok I just did that
[22:14] <andlabs> now I'd like to see how they all differ :S
[22:14] <Chaser> andlabs: cmp -b
[22:14] <collizion> andlabs: Does diff have a binary mode? I've never encountered... There ya go.
[22:14] <andlabs> I need /many/ - more than two - files
[22:15] <andlabs> basically I'm comparing ext4 journal entry blocks to find the right one to manually replay
[22:15] <squeegily> How can I install the xwinfo command?
[22:15] <XCVB> I'm write a program
[22:15] <XCVB> that read the webcam
[22:16] <XCVB> when it crashes the light is still on
[22:16] <andlabs> "xwinfo"?
[22:16] <XCVB> I try using the webcam with Cheese
[22:17] <XCVB> It says there was an error playing from the webcam
[22:17] <andlabs> squeegily: what program are you looking for anyway
[22:17] <XCVB> How do restart the webcam driver/webcam
[22:17] <squeegily> I was trying to launch the xwininfo program
[22:17] <squeegily> I figured it out
[22:17] <andlabs> squeegily: x11-utils
[22:18] <squeegily> Yeah my problem was I accidentally typed xwinfo
[22:18] <XCVB> If I restart my computer the webcam works just fine
[22:18] <andlabs> also ubuntu comes with a package called command-nt-found which will tell you what package to install
[22:18] <andlabs> yeah
[22:18] <andlabs> the fun part is that x11-utils also comes with a different program called x*v*info
[22:19] <andlabs|2> in which I forget I'm still trying to get my IRC settings out
[22:20] <jhutchins> andlabs|2: Diff will compare binaries.
[22:21] <andlabs|2> it will compare /two/ binaries
[22:21] <andlabs|2> I need to compare /many/ binaries
[22:22] <andlabs|2> specifically 6, 10, and 206
[22:22] <collizion> Wow. Coworker left for lunch four hours ago. He's still at the bar.
[22:22] <Flannel> andlabs|2: What do you mean by "compare"? and to what?
[22:22] <andlabs|2> meh
[22:22] <andlabs|2> to each other
[22:22] <jhutchins> collizion: ex-coworker perhaps?
[22:22] <compdoc> ex-coworker
[22:22] <andlabs|2> these are all blocks in an ext4 journal dump
[22:22] <andlabs|2> I want to pick only the correct one
[22:22] <andlabs|2> meh
[22:22] <collizion> jhutchins: Today was his last day, actually. :P
[22:22] <andlabs|2> might as well go and parse the revocation data
[22:22] <andlabs|2> thanks anyway
[22:23] <Flannel> andlabs|2: So, you're comparing 6 of them to figure out which ones are the same? or what?
[22:23] <andlabs|2> to find out how they differ
[22:24] <collizion> Gonna go unwind, myself. Cheers.
[22:24] <Flannel> andlabs|2: That's not going to be fun, but just script up a diff for all of your combinations, I guess.  6 and 10 will be manageable, 206 won't be, because that's something like 2.7e386 comparisons.
[22:25] <collizion> ikonia: My apologies for earlier, by the way.
[22:25] <ikonia> collizion: already forgoton
[22:25] <andlabs|2> all right, thanks anyway
[22:25] <andlabs|2> I'll just figure out the extents data :/
[22:25] <andlabs|2> bbl
[22:26] <XCVB> how do I find the process that has my webcam open
[22:26] <jhutchins> XCVB: lsof /dev/webcam
[22:26] <jhutchins> XCVB: Er, I'm thinking of fuser /dev/webcam
[22:26] <Loshki> collizion: it's the day after new year. Anyone who *had* to go into work today is probably sulking.
[22:27] <herent> Hi! Does anyone know if it's possible to clone an existing 14.10 install on a single disk drive onto two new disks in a raid array? It's probably a bit more complicated because the existing one will need to be in an external bay while it's being done...
[22:29] <herent> Oh, and I was thinking raid 1, if that makes a difference. I just want extra speed, I don't need extra storage space.
[22:36] <jhutchins> herent: You won't see speed.
[22:37] <jhutchins> herent: We did a survey of our LUG and it's generally agreed that you'll only see speed if you have 5+ drives off a dedicated RAID controller with RAM and a price >~$350US.
[22:38] <jhutchins> herent: Less than that and you might be able to see some speed in a benchmark for a high-end setup, but you won't experience it.
[22:38] <r00tX> root
[22:38] <Guest98546> hello, anybody know the command to know if my system is 64 or 32 bits ? thank you
[22:39] <EriC^^> Guest98546: uname -m
[22:39] <Guest98546> thank you
[22:40] <herent> jhutchins,  I'm upgrading to two SSDs, if that makes a difference. It's an 8 core i7 with 16gb of ram. If it's not going to make a huge difference, I'll just install the OS on one and keep files on the other.
[22:40] <Guest98546> excuse me what mean x86_64?
[22:40] <EriC^^> 64bit
[22:40] <Guest98546> thank you again
[22:40] <herent> I do a lot of development in NetBeans with a ton of other stuff running, so even with what I have now it can be a bit slow sometimes. Like a minute or two to launch NB
[22:42] <Guest98546> other question, I wrote apt-get install flashplayer plugin... etc, but it doesn't work with chromium, anybody knows why ? thank you
[22:42] <EriC^^> Guest98546: you should install pepperflash i think
[22:43] <Guest98546> mmm i will try, thank you
[22:43] <EriC^^> Guest98546: pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[22:49] <jiffe> is there a way to disable the oom-killer?
[22:55] <matschaffer> Looking at “bzr branch lp:ubuntu/trusty-security/nginx” on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/nginx/trusty-security - I presume there’s some source I need to clone (more used to git than bzr). Where can I find the source?
[22:56] <ikonia> where do you mean where can you find the source ?
[22:56] <crops> hi channel
[22:56] <ikonia> it's a bzr repo
[22:56] <crops> join #hackers
[22:56] <ikonia> crops: no
[22:56] <ikonia> please don't spam
[22:56] <crops> how to join different channel
[22:56] <matschaffer> oh nm then. I presumed I neede some sort of code.launchpad.net in there
[22:57] <ikonia> crops: ask in #freenode
[22:57] <ikonia> crops: eg: /join #freenode
[22:57] <ikonia> matschaffer: no you need bzr
[22:57] <crops> ok ı remember :)
[22:57] <matschaffer> apparently. Asked too soon. Sorry for the noise
[22:57] <wafflej0ck> herent, don't know much about RAID but 0 striping is for performance 1 mirroring is for redundancy no? anyhow if you're upgrading from HDD to SSD that itself will be a huge performance gain
[22:57] <ikonia> matschaffer: not a problem
[22:58] <matschaffer> does bzr have “lp” built in? How does it know what to talk to?
[22:58] <ikonia> have what ?
[22:58] <Fauzruk> Hi guys, I'm running into a problem since I changed my graphic card from a GTX 570 to a GTX 970. I just can't reinstall ubuntu
[22:58] <daftykins> wafflej0ck: neither mode is a true RAID mode, only 5 and upwards actually give any true redundancy
[22:58] <crops> ubuntu is a love
[22:58] <daftykins> Fauzruk: what problem?
[22:59] <Fauzruk> When I start the installer I get an "Unknown chipset" error
[22:59] <daftykins> what installer?
[22:59] <matschaffer> ikonia: sorry like I said more familiar with git. But when I run a git clone I specify some sort of source on the internet. How does “bzr branch lp:ubuntu/trusty-security/nginx” know where to pull files from?
[22:59] <Fauzruk> When I choose my installer mode for ubuntu
[22:59] <ikonia> matschaffer: do you have bzr installed ?
[22:59] <matschaffer> yep
[22:59] <ikonia> matschaffer: the command is at the top of the page
[22:59] <daftykins> Fauzruk: 'installer mode' ?
[22:59] <matschaffer> it worked, I’m just curious _how_ it worked :)
[22:59] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: what kind of machine
[23:00] <ikonia> matschaffer: what do you mean how it it worked ?
[23:00] <Fauzruk> Try without install / Install / etc ...
[23:00] <ratsbe> And Fauzruk 32 or 64
[23:00] <Fauzruk> 64
[23:00] <daftykins> Fauzruk: so 'try' doesn't work?
[23:00] <matschaffer> so I ran ‘bzr branch lp:ubuntu/trusty-security/nginx’. Now I have an nginx dir with stuff in it. Where did that stuff come from? launchpad.net?
[23:00] <Fauzruk> Both of them doesn't work
[23:00] <daftykins> Fauzruk: you know you don't have to reinstall to change card, right?
[23:00] <ikonia> matschaffer: the bzr repos hosted on launchpad
[23:01] <ikonia> bzr branch = git clone
[23:01] <Fauzruk> It seems to be when it tries to initialize X or something
[23:01] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Fauzruk Read here, but know you don't need to reinstall to change card model
[23:01] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: are trying to install ubuntu on a Mac or netbook.
[23:01] <Fauzruk> I've read about the nomodeset
[23:02] <Fauzruk> I know I don't have to reinstall ubuntu to change card, I was on a different distribution
[23:02] <daftykins> oh i see.
[23:02] <daftykins> Fauzruk: so does nomodeset work?
[23:03] <Fauzruk> Nop it didn't work but I'm not 100% sure if I did it properly
[23:03] <Fauzruk> I pressed Tab and added nomodeset after the "--" where it was written behind the nospash etc
[23:04] <julian_> hello, anybody know how i can put by default one country to surf on internet in tor browser ?? :) thanks
[23:04] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: what machine are you using
[23:04] <daftykins> Fauzruk: you only have to hit F6 and enable it from the menu. go try again
[23:04] <Fauzruk> On the previous distribution I actually had to install the driver manually because the card is only supported by the nvidia beta drivers
[23:04] <daftykins> ratsbe: neither of the systems you guessed would allow graphics card swaps.
[23:04] <julian_> it is samsung intel core i3
[23:04] <ratsbe> julian_: a vpn is better suited
[23:05] <daftykins> Fauzruk: yes, likely... but you've got to get it installed first ;) so focus on the above.
[23:05] <Fauzruk> Yes I know, but that was just to let you know
[23:05] <daftykins> don't worry, it's not my first rodeo when it comes to graphics drivers.
[23:05] <Fauzruk> brb trying with F6
[23:05] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: remove card then install
[23:05] <julian_> i installed zenmate, but, it only have 5 country options
[23:06] <julian_> how i can install a vpn ?
[23:06] <yasine> heyyyyyyy
[23:06] <yasine> let me taaalk
[23:07] <ratsbe> julian_: zenmate is a vpn
[23:08] <julian_> tatsbe, do you know another option alternate to zenmate, with more options ?
[23:08] <julian_> ratsbe*
[23:09] <ikonia> more options ?
[23:09] <ikonia> what options are missing ?
[23:09] <julian_> option to select a country to surf on internet
[23:09] <yasine> hey zhat are you talking about
[23:10] <ikonia> thats not a vpn
[23:10] <ikonia> thats a proxy
[23:10] <ikonia> you don't set a country
[23:10] <julian_> what can you tell me about media hint ?
[23:11] <matschaffer> ikonia: oooh… I see. apt-get install bzr seems to include http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/plugins/en/launchpad-plugin.html
[23:11] <ikonia> julian_: whats the problem ?
[23:11] <ikonia> what do you need a solution for ?
[23:12] <julian_> ikonia, i need to navigate like if i was in colombia, but i am in argentina
[23:12] <ikonia> julian_: not something we are going to help you with in here
[23:13] <ikonia> you need someone with a colombia host to act as a proxy
[23:14] <julian_> that's becayse but i change the country my email accounts appear blocked and i need recover
[23:14] <Ryvius> Hello, I am getting screen tearing when playing videos (with Mplayer2). Any way to remove it?
[23:14] <ikonia> julian_: that doesn't change what was said
[23:14] <jim87> hello! I'm experiencing a weird freeze (kernel panic?) issue... thing is I tried to debug using netconsole, but the output is null (only few startup messages about conflicting device nodes). How may I debug these freezes? They're are random, but persistant. On Windows I don't experience this, so I'd exclude bad RAM banks. Thank you very much :)
[23:15] <ikonia> jim87: you can still have bad ram, OS's uses ram in different ways
[23:15] <ratsbe> Ryvius: it's a sync issue. If using proprietary driver. Change settings to always sync
[23:15] <jim87> ikonia: I used to compile Android, using all my 8 GB without any issue several time =\
[23:15] <jim87> times*
[23:16] <ikonia> jim87: that doesn't mean anything
[23:16] <Ryvius> ratsbe: I'm not, as it doesn't seem AMD's drivers works with 14.10
[23:16] <jim87> ikonia: so what do you suggest me to do?
[23:17] <Ryvius> jim87: I'm also getting random freezes which seems to be because of bad, old harddrives
[23:17] <julian_> ok, i understand, thank you
[23:17] <Fauzruk> Ok I'm back, so the F6 command doesn't work for me but I think that's because I'm not using unetbootin for the installation
[23:17] <jim87> Ryvius: I've got two WD Caviar Black in RAID (striped)... they're not that bad
[23:17] <jim87> (and old)
[23:18] <Fauzruk> Though I used the nomodeset and I actually don't have the "unknown chipset" error anymore
[23:18] <jim87> also, shouldn't the OS handle bad sectors? And shouldn't SMART detect imperfections in the hard drives?
[23:18] <Fauzruk> But I get error messages right after the BusyBox
[23:18] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: Are able to install
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Fauzruk: ? So waht are you using for the installation ? LiveDVD(USB) one should - as soon as bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shit key -> languahe screen, excape key to accept the default -> boot options screen -> F6 key .
[23:19] <Fauzruk> "Monting /dev/loop0 on on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device"
[23:19] <Bashing-om> shift**
[23:21] <Fauzruk> You mean that I have to press shift before I get the installation menu?
[23:21] <daftykins> Fauzruk: you should've read my link
[23:21] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Fauzruk here try again
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Fauzruk: Your last makes me question that you have a bad burn .. And yes to get to the boot options screen, as soon as biuos screen clears deptess the right shift key . ( for UEFI it is the escape key that grub will recognize) .
[23:24] <Fauzruk> Yeah the error message I got this time did look like a bad burn
[23:24] <Fauzruk> I will use my 14.04 iso this time with the nomodeset
[23:25] <Fauzruk> Damn I removed it recently ... I will try to burn the 14.10 again with unetbootin. I already checked the md5 on it so it should work
[23:28] <Ryvius> Is anyone else unable to log into steam?
[23:28] <XCVB> hello
[23:29] <ikonia> Ryvius: I'm logged into steam fine
[23:35] <jaddison> Ubuntu 14.04, I get this apt error (this is from aptitude): http://pastebin.com/1Wh94GyJ What can I do to fix this?
[23:36] <ikonia> jaddison: are you connected to the internet ?
[23:37] <dhci> I'm running 14.04.1 and I find myself running compiz --replace often, to get the mouse to pick up and move, resize windows again. Is there a good fix for this or perhaps by running metacity somehow permanently
[23:37] <jaddison> ikonia: Yes.
[23:37] <ikonia> jaddison: looks like either your dns or proxy is failing
[23:37] <ikonia> jaddison: thats too many repos from different sources to be a problem
[23:37] <ikonia> I noticed the 103 redirect failure, I'm wondering if you have a proxy
[23:38] <jaddison> No, I do not.
[23:38] <ikonia> jaddison: can you browse those URL's in a browser
[23:39] <jaddison> Yes, I just downloaded one of the bz2 files.
[23:39] <TheTopBloke> sudo, pointless?
[23:39] <ikonia> jaddison: so that looks like apt is using some sort of proxy then, as the web servers are clearly working and not redirecting
[23:40] <Marasgeon> youtube fails to start playing videos, I' ve noticed it the last 2 days after I cleared the cache, I have to refresh the video link to make it play, anyone with the same issue?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> TheTopBloke: Could you please rephrase your question?
[23:40] <jaddison> ikonia: Is this related, do you think? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685192
[23:41] <TheTopBloke> more of an argument, not that I'm right, just looking for some thoughts.
[23:41] <ikonia> jaddison: are you using aptitude ?
[23:41] <TheTopBloke> so, sudo, is pointless
[23:41] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: no
[23:41] <jaddison> Yes, ikonia.
[23:41] <jaddison> I get a similar error with apt-get
[23:41] <ikonia> jaddison: ok, whats the apt-get update error then please (pastebin)
[23:41] <jaddison> one sec, thx
[23:41] <TheTopBloke> or is sudo just more of a convenience?
[23:42] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: it's not really worth discussing
[23:42] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: it's the security model ubuntu uses
[23:42] <TheTopBloke> as opposed to say, su
[23:42] <TheTopBloke> maybe its for a security forum outside #ubuntu
[23:42] <ikonia> sounds a better place
[23:43] <jaddison> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/KnENv8fi - the error only appears at the bottom.
[23:43] <ikonia> jaddison: looks odd, as they are all getting hits
[23:44] <jaddison> Yes, curious, isn't it?
[23:44] <ikonia> jaddison: could you pastebin your sources.list
[23:44] <ikonia> lets have a look at it please.
[23:44] <jaddison> one sec
[23:46] <jaddison> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/BU2e6dqG
[23:47] <ikonia> jaddison: as a test comment out the ones that start with mirrors.ubuntu
[23:47] <ikonia> jaddison: then re-run sudo apt-get update
[23:47] <ratsbe> TheTopBloke: sudo May be useless if only you use the machine
[23:48] <TheTopBloke> good point
[23:48] <jaddison> ikonia: it works now.
[23:49] <ikonia> jaddison: looks like the mirrors are having a problem
[23:49] <jaddison> So I can understand, what do those lines do?
[23:49] <ikonia> they redirect you to one of the mirror servers
[23:49] <jaddison> I must have inserted them at some point, I guess.
[23:49] <ratsbe> TheTopBloke: or a download tries to auto install. The sudo command would prevent it from installing
[23:49] <ikonia> jaddison: no, they are standard
[23:49] <ikonia> jaddison: part of every install
[23:49] <jaddison> ikonia: oh, all right.
[23:50] <jaddison> Is this something that needs to be reported?
[23:50] <ikonia> jaddison: probably not.....but you could log a bug against it
[23:50] <TheTopBloke> So let's say, I'm using it, and only I'm using it, if someone gains access to my account, all they have to do is add sudo to they command.
[23:50] <ikonia> jaddison: uncomment those mirrors back
[23:50] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: they would need to know your password
[23:51] <TheTopBloke> right, my password, not root, that's what you mean right?
[23:51] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: correct, your password, there is no root password on ubuntu, the root account is locked
[23:52] <ratsbe> TheTopBloke: Linux don't have many Trojans.  But hopefully the sudo requirement would prevent one from automatically installing.
[23:52] <william1978> Does anyone know an irc channel for gufw, or may I ask my question here?
[23:53] <jaddison> ikonia: You won't believe it - after uncommenting them, everything works fine still.
[23:53] <jaddison> GAH
[23:53] <ikonia> jaddison: I would, you probably just had cache
[23:53] <ikonia> so updating the cache without them and re-fetching the cache made them work
[23:53] <jaddison> Thanks for your help, champ.
[23:53] <ikonia> jaddison: no problem
[23:54] <william1978> Can anyone here help me with Gufw?  I know it's not strictly OS based.  :/  I've looked for channels concerning this topic, and haven't been able to find any.
[23:55] <william1978> I've even used the forums and such, I think I'm just stupid.  All I'm trying to do is block one website.
[23:55] <ikonia> just put an entry in the hostfile
[23:55] <ikonia> easy way to cheat it
[23:56] <fauzruk> The installation worked!
[23:56] <fauzruk> The weird part is that I didn't even had to use the nomodeset this time
[23:57] <fauzruk> I guess I will stick to unetbootin now
[23:57] <TheTopBloke> Well really, on a server, it's for auditing. ie., who screwed up, Joe did. It was his acct that sudo'd the catstrophe we just experienced.
[23:58] <TheTopBloke> How did Joe get compromised.
[23:58] <TheTopBloke> At least we know who it was am I right?
[23:58] <ikonia> not realy
[23:58] <ikonia> really
[23:58] <TheTopBloke> lol
[23:58] <ikonia> sudo won't protect you from that
[23:58] <TheTopBloke> true.