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TheTopBlokeI guess the new way of doing things made me start thinking again about su vs sudo and other fun security related stuff.00:01
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Jabowhat compatible software is most similar to creo/pro engineer?00:32
JaboFreeCAD?00:32
fakamEverytime i start ubuntu I get 5 unexpected errors and the errors are all random..    Also the laptop wont come out of suspend mode.. Anyone help pls?00:34
blackangelprguys i have a friend whos ubuntu 14.04 xchat icon dissapear on the left bar when he minimize it and under preference -> Chatting -> alerts he have check mark enable system tray icon and also libappindicator1 its up to date any suggestions?00:34
daftykinsblackangelpr: try hexchat, xchat is ancient00:36
blackangelprdaftykins, will take it to consideration thank you00:37
daftykinscan also disable minimise to tray, that'd be the obvious one00:37
blackangelprroger00:37
blackangelprthanks00:37
_war10ck_blackangelpr: you can also take a peek at irssi00:40
blackangelprthanks _war10ck_00:40
Platypus-Manor weechat, better defaults and easier to configure imo00:40
willwh_irssi ftw00:48
willwh_/ctcp willwh version ;x00:49
Platypus-ManI thought that too, spent a long time configuring, then when I reinstalled Ubuntu last time, I decided to try weechat for fun, and ended up liking it much better..00:49
Platypus-Manah well, I'm just glad I got away from that awful mIRC00:50
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SvetlanaPlatypus-Man: if you miss its scripting, kvirc has something similar00:51
Platypus-Manmeh, I missed the GUI the first week, but that's about it... I prefer to have it in a terminal now00:53
Platypus-Manmy locale shows that language= and lc_all= are unset, the rest of the entries have *UTF-8, is this normal?00:57
wadHi, guys. I've gathered together my entire digital collection of family photos and videos. Got them all on a (backed-up!) USB hard drive. I need to go through them all, remove dupes, and sort them into folders by year and month, mostly. What's a good tool to let me drag-and-drop for this sort of sorting out?00:58
* wad <------ keyboard jockey, more familiar with a command prompt than a GUI. But this is no job for a command prompt!00:59
SchrodingersScatwhy is it no job for command prompt? are you sure?00:59
SchrodingersScatthere's at least 2 for deduping files, then probably some I haven't heard about.01:00
wadSchrodingersScat, the deduping I'm not too concerned about. Actually, the location of some copies of some duped files might give me context about where to put them. I need to be able to select files and move them into folders.01:00
wadVisually!01:00
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adantecollizion: thanks (late reply from yesterday)01:16
JoshH99Anyone know of a way to get nginx to 403 before proxying to another service?01:18
leeyaahello01:21
leeyaawhat does the "virtual" mean after kernel name ?01:21
RNevilleAny ideas why I can't play a DVD in my DVD drive using VLC under Ubuntu 14.04? I thought VLC played "everything".01:27
Jordan_U!dvd | RNeville01:28
ubottuRNeville: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:28
Joe_knockDoes anybody know how to copy a file from a remote server to local while being SSHed into the remote server??01:29
RNevilleubottu: I thought when I choose to install proprietary repositories on the install of Ubuntu 14.04 this would take care of this problem.01:30
ubottuRNeville: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:30
wafflej0ckJoe_knock, check out scp01:31
invertibleJoe_knock, use scp01:31
Joe_knockwafflej0ck, invertible: I am getting a Publickey error when running scp from the local machine. Can i use scp while i am in the remote machine?01:31
invertibleJoe_knock, I usually use it from the local machine, so I have the public key on the server and private on mine01:32
wafflej0ckJoe_knock, running scp should be basically just like running SSH in terms of what you supply except instead of a destination host you specify the source path (can be remote or local) and destination path (can be remote or local)01:32
wafflej0cksame as invertible here01:33
invertibleI guess you have to set it up inreverse if you want to do it the other way round01:33
Joe_knockSo I need to change my public key then.01:33
invertibleNo01:33
ObrienDaveRNeville, install ubuntu-restricted-extras01:33
invertibleYou need a new key pair01:33
wafflej0ckyou can scp in both directions so long as the public key is on the server and your private key is on the client machine (where you run the command from)01:33
Joe_knockinvertible: "Permission denied (publickey)."01:34
RNevilleObrienDave: thx01:34
NoOova_Hello all!01:34
wafflej0ckJoe_knock, http://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php01:34
invertiblePut the public on your local machine and the private on the server01:34
NoOova_I could not mount sdhc sd card01:34
NoOova_error is: error -110 sending stop command, original cmd response 0x900, card status 0x800b0001:34
invertibleOh and ssh server on our local I guess01:34
wafflej0ckJoe_knock, you should be running scp from within the local machine shell (not SSHed in)01:35
Joe_knockwafflej0ck: I understand that. I was just hoping that there might be a reverse way of taking a file from remote to local, but that is dangerous security-wise01:36
wafflej0ckJoe_knock, the same way you would run SSH to connect you can instead run scp and it will pick up your private key if you didn't rename it otherwise will need to use -i identity_file flag same as with ssh01:36
invertiblewafflej0ck, I mean if he wants to scp into his local machine he needs to be running ssh server on it01:36
invertibleAnd open port 2201:37
wafflej0ckyeah sorry this is a confusing conversation.... we should start calling them machine A and machine B probably so we aren't mixing up what is the "server" vs the "client" but you should be able to copy in both directions with scp so long as you have permissions on the remote account to read/write from the locations you specify01:38
invertiblewafflej0ck, well I don't know if that would work. I thought scp opens a new ssh connection to the local, in which case the local would need to be set up to accept the connection.01:42
Giwrgarashi, do you know how do i change the comma in ubuntu? i want to switch my decimal from comma to dot.01:43
invertiblemeaning ssh server to run and a key pair for that connection to be set up.01:43
jon_92how can i get help for linux mint?01:43
Bashing-om!mint | jon_9201:44
ubottujon_92: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:44
Svetlanaask at their support channel01:45
Svetlanai lag 17s :(01:45
wafflej0ckinvertible, well I'm saying lets say machine A has the data on it we want to get, if machine B wants to connect to machine A, and machine A has the public key part of the pair from machine B's private key, inside the authorized_keys on machine A in some users folder, then using SCP with that user from machine B will let you copy things to machine B from machine A (based on remote user account being used) and will let you copy fr01:47
wafflej0ckom machine A to machine B assuming you run the scp command from machine B01:47
jgcampbeldoes anyone konw of a web based time tracking solution that is open source (free) that uses GPS and payrole01:47
wafflej0ckalso assume here machine A is running SSHd01:47
SchrodingersScatjgcampbel: no, as soon as they add gps to it they close it down, from what I've seen.  You can use the apps for self-reporting, maybe make them take a picture of them doing work if you don't trust them :P01:48
SchrodingersScatjgcampbel: otherwise, if you find one, let me know.  Really we should both be donating to a project that hasn't strayed from the path yet, until they get gps support on the phone app.01:49
chris349Is it possible to disable the mouse cursor?01:50
Jordan_URNeville: Proprietary is one thing, illegal to distribute in the U.S. because of silly laws is another.01:50
nidalHello everyone01:50
nidalI need some help with Ubuntu01:50
nidalI have problem with hibernate mode01:51
SchrodingersScat!ask | nidal01:51
ubottunidal: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:51
RNevilleJordan_U: are the codec for DVD playback illegal to download without permission in the US- I know we have some draconian laws through brought about by the Digital Millennium Act.01:51
nidalThe computer comes out of sleep mode alone01:52
nidalI'm using Ubuntu 14.10, i don't know what to do...01:52
wafflej0ckinvertible, shoot... think I may have said the from A to B twice there meant you can do it bidirectionally from the machine with the private key01:53
socialpuzzlehello01:53
Jordan_URNeville: The codec for mpeg2 is distributed provided you've payed the relevant fees, but the libdvdcss that breaks the copy protection is a "circumvention tool" and is thus always illegal.01:53
invertibleJoe_knock, wafflej0ck In your scenarios (scp from remote to local) the local acts like the server. Problem: so far only the remote server has the public key of the local in its authorized keys but the local does not have an authorized key for the remote server. I think that needs to be set up, i.e. generate a key pair as if the local is the server. Then run sshd on the local, and open port 22 to accept connections.01:53
RNevilleJordan_U: thx, so much01:54
Jordan_URNeville: You're welcome.01:54
invertibleJoe_knock, wafflej0ck then you should be able to scp from the remote to the local machine01:54
XxionxXHi, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 successfully on a laptop and everything but the touchpad works fantastically. The mouse can be moved around the screen but it won't register the button presses. I have tried plugging in a usb mouse and those buttons presses work just fine. I have tried googling my issue but I seem to be missing something. The laptop is an HP 11-d010wm.01:54
nidalI really want to stay on Ubuntu, but it's problem after anoter and no one to help... :/01:54
XxionxXIs there any way to get some more info so I can search the issue better?01:55
wafflej0ckinvertible, pretty sure you only need the public key on the side running SSHd and can transfer to/from it regardless though don't think you need to remote into the server then scp back to the client, instead can just scp data from the server to the client machine scp your_username@remotehost.edu:foobar.txt /some/local/directory01:55
XxionxXI am comfortable with command line so if someone had some handy commands to get info that would be awesome01:56
wafflej0ckJoe_knock, invertible, I only do this like once every 6 months or something mostly rely on Jenkins Continuous Integration lately and git for things to get transferred out01:56
XxionxXnidal: what do you mean by 'sleep mode alone'?01:57
nidalXxionxX, the computer left the sleep mode...01:57
wafflej0ckXxionxX, you may want to look into xinput though I haven't heard of the buttons being disabled like that it does let you toggle properties of the devices01:57
nidalXxionxX, i'm bad in english so please try to understand what i mean01:58
invertibleJoe_knock, wafflej0ck Maybe you are right wafflej0ck , I haven't tested it. But from my understanding that would be a possible explanation for the problem that occured. So it's up to the person who wants to scp from remote to local to test it.01:58
Squabbleris there a common reason for bluetooth to suddenly stop working altogether?01:58
Jordan_UXxionxX: If you run xev and click on the window that's created, are any events emitted to stdout at all?01:58
Squabbler14.0401:58
XxionxXJordan_U: one sec01:59
wafflej0cknidal, you mean it woke itself up? also just for your information 14.04 is the LTS release which means it is more stable and will be supported for longer you should use it instead of 14.10 for a more stable system02:00
XxionxXJordan_U: yeah but now I can't quit that process XD02:00
nidalwafflej0ck, i'm on Ubuntu 14.1002:01
XxionxXctrl-c isn't working lol02:01
XxionxXgot it02:01
XxionxXOhh exciting, now the USB mouse is showing the same behavior as the touchpad02:02
nidalwafflej0ck, Ubuntu woke up itself, and after this sometimes the keybord/mouse didn't work, and i can't launch Windows...02:02
nidalA lot of problems...02:02
wafflej0cknidal, right, saying you should use 14.04, the .10 versions (october releases) typically have more breaking changes in them and every two years (10.04, 12.04, 14.04) are LTS releases that are supported for longer (don't need to upgrade as often to get security fixes)02:02
RNevilleI have too many toys to work on; trying to set up Eye-Fi on a windows box - no Linux support, :((02:02
Jordan_UXxionxX: What did it output when you clicked? (Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for more than one line of output).02:02
XxionxXThat might be difficult to do considering I don't have a mouse to copy the output with...02:03
nidalwafflej0ck, so you suggest to downgrade to 14.04 ?02:03
invertibleJoe_knock, I think you need to treat the scp from remote to local as a new ssh connection, wafflej0ck thinks you don't. You can test what works and what not.02:03
wafflej0cknidal, should take your issues one at a time, the sleep problems are a matter of convenience and speed but not critical, should probably focus on fixing your Windows boot if you plan to still use it, but yeah would suggest sticking with 14.04 unless you have a good reason to go 14.10 (testing maybe)02:03
nidalwafflej0ck,  i have this problem since i have Ubuntu 13.04... always the some problem i don't understand.. :s02:04
wafflej0cknidal, yeah sometimes it's hardware problems, personally I bough a System76 machine when I decided I wanted to make the switch to Ubuntu as my daily driver so I could get support from them and know the hardware was tested with Ubuntu it's been a good experience buying from them but it is pricey compared to rolling the dice :), depends on how much you need a stable system though, it's worth it for my work laptop02:06
wafflej0ckbought*02:06
Joe_knockinvertible: I somehow miraculously got a new public key running on the remote server. Login to root worked and I scped the necessary data. Thank you wafflej0ck and invertible02:06
wafflej0cknp02:06
nidalwafflej0ck, so it's better to uninstall Ubuntu and go on another linux system ?02:08
YonHi, I did a dual install of 14.04 over a preinstallation of win 7. I followed the directions here http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/30/dual-boot-ubuntu-14-04-and-windows-7-on-a-pc-with-uefi-firmware/   Windows shows as an option in the grub menu but when selected, the screen blinks and reverts to ubuntu...the ntfs drives with windows are visable in gparted and weirdly the drive in the side panel of ubuntu has the windows files on it. Anywa02:08
daftykinsYon: that's just showing Ubuntu can see the partitions, nothing a big deal about that at all02:09
wafflej0cknidal, thing is since lots of hardware drivers and things are proprietary (for competitive advantage or desire to just not support open sourcing a project etc.) sometimes it's just some faulty driver... there is not going to be a major difference insofar as driver/hardware support is concerned for other distros so Ubuntu is as good as any (better than most with regard to widespread adoption/testing) but saying having hardware th02:09
wafflej0ckat is tested for use with Linux helps significantly (saw Dell is selling an XPS one with Ubuntu again but also looks a little pricey)02:09
nidalOkey i'll try Debian then...02:10
Yondaftykins: That's what i hoped but i'm new to this and was hoping someone could direct me in how to fix windows boot?02:11
daftykinsYon: so, did you install windows 7 in EFI mode to begin with?02:12
daftykinsyou'd know because you would've had to place the EFI boot image in the correct folder to even get 7 booted02:13
wafflej0cknidal, gotta kinda of think of it like if you bought a Mac then ran Windows on it and it didn't work perfectly or try running OS X on non-apple hardware and see how difficult it is to find kexts (kernel extensions, basically drivers on OS X) for your hardware, if you buy a piece of hardware tested with the software they ship it with you'll have a much better overall experience with the system rather than the experience you're cu02:14
wafflej0ckrrently having... I realize buy new hardware isn't always a viable option but good to keep your head straight about accepting some difficulties02:14
Yondaftykins:   it was preinstalled on the machine but in gparted nothing shows efi..the windows drives are shown only as ntfs..?02:14
daftykinsYon: what are you booted into right now?02:15
Yondaftykins: ubuntu...can't get windows to boot02:15
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nidalwafflej0ck, i'll try Debian and i see if i have the same issues02:16
daftykinsYon: alright, i'm going to link you to a page which explains the difference between EFI and legacy booting Ubuntu, see if you can work out which it was you did02:16
daftykins!uefi | Yon02:16
ubottuYon: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:16
nidalwafflej0ck, i have problems with Ubuntu since the day when i know it...02:16
XxionxXJordan_U: So I restarted in hopes that the usb mouse would allow me to copy/paste the output and now when I run 'xev' there is no output except for when I move the mouse pointer.02:16
XxionxX*restarted the computer02:16
Yondaftykins: cheers!02:17
XxionxXSo I click the box and there is no output at all :/02:17
daftykinsYon: it'd also be handy for you to run the terminal program and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and share the link it creates here02:17
wafflej0cknidal, sure it's worth a shot just saying I wouldn't have super high hopes, you are typically better off using dmesg or /var/log to investigate the problem and figure it out rather than installing other distros but maybe you'll get lucky02:18
nidalwafflej0ck, i hope so thanks anyway02:19
wafflej0cknidal, np good luck02:19
nova-Dokay, so I'm using a Toshiba Satellite laptop with the latest Utopic, and since yesterday I haven't been able to connect to the internet.02:21
daftykinswireless or wired?02:21
nova-DWireless, adapter is a Realtek RTL8188ee02:21
daftykinsdid you install any updates prior to it ceasing to work?02:21
daftykinssuch as a new kernel02:21
nova-Dthe only thing I installed prior was Spotify, and uninstalling that made no difference02:22
Yondaftykins: cool... http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662858/02:22
Parallaxxcan anyone help me... i made a linux mint usb and want to reset the persistant image ,so it's like new.. how do i do that02:22
daftykins!mint | Parallaxx02:23
ubottuParallaxx: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:23
Parallaxxoops sorry02:23
daftykinsParallaxx: regardless of it being similar we cannot help anything but ubuntu02:23
nova-Dnothing I connect to works, not even connecting to my router's settings02:23
daftykinsnova-D: so what happens, does the tray icon show any networks?02:23
nova-Dtray icon shows all nearby networks, and claims to have connected to my home wifi02:23
daftykinsso you have signal strength bars?02:24
nova-Dyes02:24
daftykinsare you online from another computer right now?02:24
drinkoohi everyone02:24
nova-DI dual boot Windows 7, so that's what I'm using now. I've got another computer, but I don't know if it's hooked up totally02:24
drinkoodo you know how to delete Skype chat history? I already deleted the .Skype directory but it keeps coming back... seems that it is not locally stored.02:25
nova-Dno, other computer unavailabl02:25
nova-Dunavailable*02:25
daftykinsYon: yeah that looks like a legacy Windows install, ok i went the wrong route there then. You might want to try out boot-repair02:25
daftykins!boot-repair02:26
daftykinsoh that's not a thing. damn02:26
wafflej0ckno hyphen maybe daftykins02:26
daftykinsYon: here anywho https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair02:26
drinkoosomeone to help me? I need to clear skype chat history but it keeps coming back even after deleting the .Skype directory02:26
daftykins!patience | drinkoo02:26
ubottudrinkoo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:26
daftykinsdrinkoo: skype is by Microsoft, not really supported here02:27
alex_______what is the operating system using on bloody monday drama?02:27
drinkooyeah but I have it installed on my ubuntu box02:27
wafflej0ckdrinkoo, https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10893/how-do-i-delete-my-chat-history-in-skype-for-mac-os-x <--- they keep it in the cloud02:27
daftykinsalex_______: on what? maybe go ask in #ubuntu-offtopic02:27
daftykinsdrinkoo: that's nice.02:27
drinkoolol motherfuckers (skype)02:28
SchrodingersScat!language | drinkoo02:28
wafflej0ckdrinkoo, anything you can install on ubuntu isn't necessarily supported or related to ubuntu, can we get the source code? if not look to MS... also watch the language02:28
ubottudrinkoo: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList02:28
daftykinsnova-D: i'd be interested to see a "ip a" command output when you're booted into ubuntu, you could save the output to a text file on a flash drive to get it online at http://paste.ubuntu.com perhaps02:28
nova-DI can access my Windows partition from within Ubuntu, that's how I've been moving and sharing things between the two installs02:29
XxionxXwafflej0ck: I tried using 'xinput test mydeviceidhere' and it output all my touchpad movements but not button presses02:29
daftykinsnova-D: that's true, silly me :)02:29
XxionxXIs there a way to map those buttons?02:29
nova-DBe back in about 5-10 minutes02:30
wafflej0ckXxionxX, sorry not sure I've just used xinput myself for tweaking my mousepad settings for palm detection and some other tweaks, not really sure about mapping the buttons though... I've used xbindkeys for mapping keyboard shortcuts but yeah nothing with xinput sorry02:30
XxionxXwafflej0ck: This is hardest thing I've ever had to do in linux @_@02:31
XxionxXI know what I want but my google fu is not helping02:31
jmoironi've been reading about 802.11ac support for pcie cards and i've found a few that don't appear to have working drivers;  does anyone have any suggestions for a supported card?02:31
Yondaftykins: thanks..I was concerned that according to the dual boot installation instructions on that link i posted earlier, the ubuntu boot directory was directed to be installed on the same 100 mb drive that windows was on and i wondered if ubuntu overwrote it.....I wondered if it wasn't more ideal to have a seperate boot spot for ubuntu...don't quite know how it works yet?02:31
daftykinsYon: yeah that guide was for an EFI installation of both, which you don't have. bit misleading really02:34
daftykinswell it kind of was, that guide was pretty bad in general :(02:34
wafflej0ckXxionxX, yeah I mean best I think you can do is use, lspci in the command line to find the particular device or lspci -k to see the driver loaded for it too and search for related problems for that device if you can't find it using your laptop model02:35
wafflej0ckXxionxX, does xev show you anything meaningful02:35
wafflej0ckXxionxX, pretty sure you mentioned it was responding to input in some way right?02:36
XxionxXYeah it did once02:36
XxionxXand then nothing after a reset02:36
Yondaftykins: yeah because the system is uefi enabled...and the option "install alongside" wasn't available...i read somewhere that this was because of uefi...?02:37
wafflej0ckXxionxX, can you pastebin your xinput --list?02:37
XxionxXsure02:37
daftykinsYon: if you booted ubuntu in EFI mode (black screen white text) you've likely got a mixed install now02:38
wafflej0ckXxionxX, also lspci -k would be good to get more info can try a bit of goolging too02:38
Yondaftykins: yeah well the first couple of times i booted, it was the efi menu actually but since then it's just the grub menu that comes up02:39
daftykinsYon: EFI menu?02:40
ZIRiSHi., Anyone home?02:40
ZIRiSHi., Anyone home?02:40
Svetlanayes02:41
tewardZIRiS: ask your actual question02:41
ZIRiSAwesome.02:41
ZIRiSI am trying to install Ubuntu, but my laptop shuts down before I can even get to the point where I might be able to install. Any suggestions?02:41
daftykinsinstant power off?02:42
Yondaftykins: well..i just called it that..it was the more elaborate interface with code-like boot options, different colour scheme ..like you said.02:42
ZIRiSCore i5 with AMD 6990M, I am trying to install proprietary drivers to see if that helps, but it shuts off before the drivers finish installing.02:42
tewardZIRiS: overheat?  Kernel panic?  Check the BIOS logs to see if there was any power loss?02:42
ObrienDaveZIRiS, is it running on battery?02:43
ZIRiSNot instant, more like an overheating thing...but it doesn't overheat in Windows at all.02:43
ZIRiSNope, I"m plugged in.02:43
ZIRiSYeah...about those BIOS logs....my bios sucks bawls, i don't have access to logs.02:43
tewardZIRiS: firstly, lets not compare Windows to Linux, mmkay?  They're different entities.02:44
Yondaftykins:  it had 2 code-like boot options, neither of which had ubuntu or windows implied but both options when selected resulted in ubuntu booting up02:44
ZIRiSIt's a Sager 8170, and the bios is all but useless. I can switch boot options and that's about it. It doens't even have an area to view the proc...02:44
XxionxXwafflej0ck: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662915/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662932/02:45
ZIRiSAnd yeah, sorry, I know Ubuntu and WIndows are *very* different, just meant that, it doesn't normally overheat, ONLY when I'm in a linux environment.02:45
nova-Dhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9662936/ here is the output from ip a02:45
daftykinsYon: ok yep, sounds like your EFI setup screen and the GRUB menu yeah. any luck with boot-repair? i'd also be interested by a "ls -al /boot | pastebinit"02:45
ZIRiSI might also add, I've tried xUbuntu, Ubuntu Studio and Ubunto Gnome....same result with all 3....overheat and power off.02:45
daftykinsnova-D: ah 192.168.1.75, looks like it's getting an IP on your network fine. if that's your home network's IP range?02:46
nova-Dit's getting an IP address but I'm not even getting my router's config page02:47
daftykinsnova-D: is that at 1.1 or 1.254?02:47
nova-D1.25402:47
daftykinsnova-D: hmm, did it respond to ping?02:47
Yondaftykins: a bit distracted. still figuring out best way to do boot repair...http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662941/02:47
nova-Dpinging localhost worked, pinging 192.168.1.254 got nothing02:47
nova-D100% packet loss02:47
ObrienDaveZIRiS, i suspect *buntu is not allowing your fan controller to work02:48
daftykinsYon: can you remember whether you had the purple screen or the white text on black background ubuntu screen when first booting it to install it? looks like you might have a mixed setup now, follow the !uefi page for converting your ubuntu install to legacy from EFI02:48
ZIRiSObrienDave: how do we make it do what we want it to?02:49
ZIRiSObrienDave: I might also add that it shut down while trying to just "install" without trying it out first, ie, i did NOT go to the live desktop02:49
ZIRiSObrienDave: We want it to work with the fan controller, how do we make them talk nice to each other?02:50
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daftykinsnova-D: ok, do you know which driver you installed for that realtek device? i would probably boot a live session and check it works there to rule out your connection. or try the guest account to be sure02:51
wafflej0ckXxionxX, does this appear to be the same problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/139486902:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1394869 in linux (Ubuntu) "[HP Stream Notebook - 11-d010nr] Trackpad click does not work" [High,Incomplete]02:51
nova-DI never installed a driver, it was working out of the box02:52
ObrienDaveZiRiS, i don't know about that. stick around. someone will know02:52
XxionxXYES!02:52
daftykinsnova-D: ah, even better02:52
XxionxXA bug page!02:52
daftykinsnova-D: i'd test a live session then?02:53
XxionxXdefinitely the same model laptop02:53
wafflej0ckXxionxX, unfortunately it looks like there's no resolution yet02:53
XxionxXwell shucks02:54
XxionxXShould I add a 'me too' on the page?02:56
RonWhoCaresIs there a way to kill a program02:56
XxionxXI've never run into a bug which didn't have a fix02:56
RonWhoCaresthat appears to have hung02:56
daftykinsRonWhoCares: kill -9 $PID02:56
RonWhoCareswhat is $PID02:57
RonWhoCaresdo I have to use the ps #02:57
daftykinsthe process ID # of the capplication02:57
daftykins-c02:57
wafflej0ckXxionxX, yeah I've never actually found one where there wasn't at least some workaround would be good to throw your name in the hat though and support bug report info if possible to help the devs who work on this stuff to debug02:58
RonWhoCaresI am not seeing the program02:58
Yondaftykins: will try, thanks..not sure what you mean exactly...I used ubuntu live dvd to install it...? first couple of times it booted wasn't grub if that's what you mean?02:58
ZiRiSObrienDave: Just a thought...my fans spin up, gradually faster & faster, until they're at full speed, and then it does eventually shut off, but it doens't take long...are we certain it's a fan controller issue? I'm kind of thinking maybe possibly something to do with the GFX card drivers, however, proprietary drivers cause it shut off as the last step of installation...02:58
daftykinsYon: well there's a guide if you type !efi anyway, on converting02:59
ObrienDaveZiRiS, may i suggest a good cleaning of the fan vents?02:59
XxionxXwafflej0ck: I know a bit ruby but I have no experience with hardware issues and system programming02:59
XxionxXI would try and help but I have no idea where to start02:59
Yon!efi02:59
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:59
XxionxXThe page says that button presses aren't even registered03:00
ZiRiSObrienDave: Not a bad idea. I can take it apart and clean it...however, if that were the case, would it not also overheat in other operating systems, not just Linux and Linux ONLY?03:00
XxionxXHow can I fix something which has no output!?03:00
wafflej0ckXxionxX, yeah I'm a web dev too (mostly front end and some Java and PHP server side) so not sure how to debug X input stuff further and since they are moving to Mir I believe might be a moot issue if it's solved there03:00
ObrienDaveZiRiS, not necessarily03:00
ZiRiSObrienDave: Have you heard of Yumi? It's only a little more than Unix....used to boot to other .iso's03:01
XxionxXwafflej0ck: this is such an odd error, it even freaks out more if you click the trackpad while the usb mouse is plugged in03:02
anti-unixhi03:02
XxionxXThis was supposed to be a simple install for a friend ;_;03:02
ZiRiSObrienDave: I ask about Yumi because this is what i'm using to get to the Linux distro on a thunb drive...and I've not experienced it there, or in Hiren's miniXP, nor in the W7 I wish to replace with Ubuntu03:02
wafflej0ckXxionxX, yeah I mean you can check dmesg or tail -f /var/log/syslog and see if you can get any more info/errors from actual code but aside from that I'm not sure how you could collect more info03:02
daftykinsZiRiS: it's fine, there's also Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com (same site i believe)03:03
ZiRiSObrienDave: Do you think I mgiht get different results from a different flavor or distro of Ubuntu? As in perhaps the default flavor, as opposed to Xfce environment or GNome?03:04
ObrienDaveZiRiS, that is possible since Xubuntu uses XFCE. it's CPU requirements are not as high03:05
* ObrienDave runs Xubuntu03:05
wafflej0ckRonWhoCares, you can ps aux | grep processnamehere to see the PID in the second column, then you can sudo kill -9 pid, alternatively you can sudo killall processname, or use top and hit k then type the process id (defaults to top process)03:06
ZiRiSObrienDave: Let me be clear...XUbuntu crashed, I have NOT tried the default flavor, Ubuntu Gnome also crashed. Is this what you were understanding? I just want to be sure I'm communicating clearly and there's no misunderstanding. :)03:07
ZiRiSObrienDave: Ubuntu Studio crashed, too, but since it's still in xfce, i guess it's not much difference from XUbuntu03:07
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ObrienDaveZiRiS, my apologies. i am reluctant to offer more advice because i don't have enough experience in this field. i have looked at some things and suggest starting here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues03:09
ZiRiSObrienDave: THANK YOU. I will check it out. I really appreciate your assistance. :)03:10
ObrienDaveZiRiS, please do exhaustive research before trying any mentioned solutions03:10
ObrienDaveZiRiS, and also check with the users here BEFORE doing anything03:10
ZiRiSObrienDave: I am a Windows Tech by trade, trying to learn me some Linux...I've learned the hard way to do my research FIRST!03:11
ObrienDaveas have I :))03:11
ghostx562does anyone know how to auto mount a secondary hdd as an external? i edited the fstab, but that put it into the /mnt location. im on 12.04.503:14
tewardghostx562: you can always specify a differnet mount point03:14
tewardghostx562: such as /media/BLAHFOOBAR if you wanted03:15
ghostx562teward, how would i go upon changing it?03:15
tewardghostx562: but if it's an internal drive, I don't think it can be mounted as an "external drive"03:15
clumsy_botghostx562: sudo editor /etc/fstab03:15
tewardghostx562: sudo nano /etc/fstab03:15
tewardghostx562: find the line, replace /mnt/ with /path/of/choice03:15
ghostx562teward, idk if thats the way i can describe it lol, but i want it to show as a second drive and not in /mnt03:15
ghostx562ok03:16
tewardghostx562: i know what you want - it can show as a 'second drive' but not if it's in /mnt/03:16
tewardghostx562: you simply have to specify a different path in the fstab entry for that drive/partition03:16
ghostx562so how would i go upon doing that?03:16
tewardghostx562: and make sure the path exists at boot too - otherwise you might run into "It doesn't exist!"03:16
teward[15/01/02 22:15:32] <teward> ghostx562: sudo nano /etc/fstab03:17
teward[15/01/02 22:15:41] <teward> ghostx562: find the line, replace /mnt/ with /path/of/choice03:17
tewardghostx562: i suggest unmounting the drive first03:17
clumsy_botSpeaking of which, what are the options for fstab to disable auto mounting whilst retaining all other options under 'defaults'?03:17
ObrienDaveif it's not in fstab, it will not automount03:18
clumsy_botObrienDave: I guess that means if I want to mount something I'd still require root/sudo permissions?03:19
ghostx562teward, ok let me unmount03:19
ObrienDaveclumsy_bot, not sure about that03:19
tewardclumsy_bot: there's probably an option but I don't remember it, time to dig in the manpages03:19
ghostx562obriendave: it is in fstab03:20
clumsy_botFound this tidbit in the fstab man page. It says that defaults contain: "rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async"03:21
ghostx562teward: i want it to mount as if it were a usb drive, what would i set for location. if i use /media it mounts it there and i have to look for that folder to access the files03:21
clumsy_botI wonder if I could just change auto to noauto and it'd work similarly.03:21
tewardghostx562: you can't - it's an internal drive and the system sees it as such.03:22
clumsy_botnouser would mean I still require root/sudo permissions though.03:22
tewardghostx562: ideally you'd put the drive into an external enclosure that is USB connected - that'd get it recognized as external03:22
tewardghostx562: you still have to reboot to make the system see it in Files differently, I believe03:22
ghostx562teward, i had it mounted that way but i had to restore my system and i don't rememeber how i had it setup03:22
utox!load03:23
utox!load03:23
utox!load03:24
ghostx562!load03:25
ghostx562ill find out how later, i gotta put my brain back to work lol03:25
ghostx562exit03:25
clumsy_bot!load03:26
ZiRiS*ANYONE* Is thermald installed by default, in any flavor of Ubuntu?03:26
daftykins!info thermald03:27
bazhang!info thermald03:27
ubottuthermald (source: thermald): Thermal monitoring and controlling daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3-6 (utopic), package size 176 kB, installed size 618 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)03:27
ObrienDaveanyone figure out that !load does not do anything?03:27
daftykinsoptional. so nope, not installed03:27
bazhangObrienDave, load what exactly03:27
ObrienDavethat's what i'm wondering LOL03:27
bazhangthe bot would PM them for a fake !03:28
ObrienDavebazhang, read ^03:28
ObrienDave!load03:28
bazhang /msg ubottu to test those out03:28
ZiRiSdaftykins: thanks! :)03:28
ObrienDavebazhang, sometimes, the simple explanations escape me LOL03:29
cfhowlettHow do I restart graphics without rebooting??  http://fpaste.org/165142/03:30
ZiRiSObrienDave: Thanks for the advice, I'm going to reboot & try to install it before it dies, and see if I get anywhere...with any luck I'll be back from linux to say thanks!03:30
bazhangObrienDave, /msg ubottu brain gives a whole long rundown on which ! work03:30
mgriffin27no03:32
ObrienDavebazhang, good to know. tnx03:32
bazhangnp03:33
daftykinscfhowlett: lightdm restart work?03:33
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cfhowlettdaftykins, full command please?03:33
daftykinssudo service lightdm restart03:33
daftykinsassuming unity03:33
cfhowlettdaftykins, no unity. ubuntustudio so ... xfce.  NOTE: trying to get the graphics driver so ....Inkscape, gimp types of usage.  xfce ... ain't that.03:34
andlabs|2oh boy I am this close to recovering everything03:34
andlabs|2what's the easiest way I can overwrite part of one binary file with another, if I have the destination location as a hex number?03:35
Hilikushow do i play audio on a specific pulseaudio sink?03:35
andlabs|2in bytes03:35
Hilikusi need to test a new sink03:35
daftykinscfhowlett: mm, whichever *dm it uses then :D03:35
cfhowlettcool...will try03:36
andlabs|2specifically03:37
andlabs|2I have manually recovered sectors that ddrescue could not03:37
andlabs|2from the ext4 journal03:37
andlabs|2and now I want to patch them back in03:37
LogicalDashHey, I've got kvm installed and am trying to run the ubuntu livecd in it. But whenever I boot I get a kernel panic starting with "Starting init: /bin/sh exists but couldn't execute it (error -28)". This didn't happen when I installed onto real hardware, help?03:37
zec0hi there03:38
daftykinshello03:38
LogicalDashhi03:38
daftykinsandlabs|2: 'dd' might be able to do something with an offset, i think that's an option it has03:39
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zec0may i ask afew question pls03:39
LogicalDash!ask03:39
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:39
daftykinszec0: only if they relate to ubuntu support03:39
zec0i try to install nvidia driver but i cant install it03:39
zec0after installation nvidia driver and reboot, no more working there03:40
andlabsdaftykins: I don't really feel comfortable with som many options to dd =P I'll probably ask in ##linux to keep things clean03:40
andlabsalso to start over03:40
LogicalDashzec0: you mean you aren't seeing anything on your screen?03:40
zec0after install and reboot, then display appear but very low resoluton and no way for using03:41
LogicalDashno way for using what?03:41
daftykinszec0: what card do you have?03:42
zec0can not click,just hang03:42
andlabswell I guess so03:43
zec0nvidia GT 540M on my Asus notebook03:43
daftykinszec0: ah, then you needed to install nvidia-prime most likely. check that it's installed03:45
zec0i have not yet installed nvidia-prime bro03:47
zec0now i am using ubuntu 14.0403:47
Bashing-omzec0: In all likely hood your GT 540M card is optimus technology, and the better solution for 'hybrid grahics' is Nvidia-Prime .03:49
andlabsHA03:49
andlabsGOT IT RIGHT03:49
andlabs4/5 sectors recovered03:50
andlabsunfortunately the last one is truly lost, but I have the inumbers so I hope ncheck can come to the rescue03:50
zec0how can i get running my nvidia card properly pls03:51
bazhangzec0, install nvidia prime as suggested03:51
cryptodanzec0: run lspci in a terminal  and http://dpaste.com the results then share the link03:53
zec0thanks let me try03:53
paulosabinohi!04:03
hackerzonehey what's up bazhang04:08
ZiRiSthermald didn't help, though, I thought it might have...so I tried to install...silly me...i got as far as removing old partitions....04:09
Kakawhenever i m running dmesg|grep b43 ; its giving error: b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode16_mimo.fw" not found04:09
crazyhorse18what's the fastest way of getting a hash of a file?04:10
Svetlanamd5sum?04:10
crazyhorse18yeah, that's what i have been using04:10
yourbeauhow to get xrandr on trisquel ?04:10
crazyhorse18i'm going to be doing it on 10 million files at a time though04:10
ZiRiSNow I'm on my server, seeking help...anyone have any other great ideas about why i might be suddenly turning off completely while in linux?04:11
cfhowlett!server | ZiRiS04:11
KakaAny idea how to fix this error: b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode16_mimo.fw" not found04:11
ubottuZiRiS: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server04:11
cfhowlettZiRiS, there are any number of things that could cause a shutdown.  start checking your hardware.04:12
ZiRiSlol, thank you ubottu, but I'm on a winders server, until i can get smart about Ubuntu...04:12
ZiRiScfhowlett: thank you, but this happens during a live session, but not during a windows session.04:12
ZiRiScfhowlett: live Ubuntu session*04:13
ZiRiScfhowlett: if you've been in here for more than 10 minutes, scroll up and search for my name for more information concerning my issue.04:14
ZiRiSmaybe 30 minutes...04:14
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wafflej0ckZiRiS, 21:09 on my system looks like about an hour ago actually was your last message but sorry to say no idea about your issue04:17
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ZiRiSwafflej0ck thanks, i guess i lost track of time :/04:18
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tbw_Is there a ubuntu-on-chromebooks subchannel or anything?04:21
bazhangis that arm?04:22
tbw_Some of them are04:22
tbw_this one is; i hear there are x86 versions04:22
tbw_I've got an older one and I just did the cruton deal and it's working really well04:22
andlabswell time to go I guess04:22
bazhangtry #ubuntu-arm perhaps04:22
tbw_I'm kinda shocked04:22
andlabsif you want to read what I did then http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/177151/9672704:22
tbw_Is there a reason why it's so hard to remove things from the side bar in unity? I mean why can't i just right click remove?04:23
bazhang!info unity-tweak-tool04:24
ubottuunity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration tool for the Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.6ubuntu2 (utopic), package size 325 kB, installed size 2550 kB04:24
tbw_bazhang: Ah, the side I found is having me do something with bzr etc04:26
bazhangok04:26
ZiRiSbazhang: is that just "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool"?04:26
bazhangZiRiS, thats how to install packages yes04:27
ZiRiSbazhang: what i meant was, is that the specific name of the package?04:27
tbw_bazhang: Is there a universe repo for arm?04:27
tbw_ZiRiS: I looked in the cache nothing called that in my repo's04:27
bazhangtry the arm channel perhaps tbw_04:28
bazhang#ubuntu-arm04:28
tbw_Hrm.04:29
tbw_There are universe repos04:29
tbw_Which I"m already on. Hrmm.04:29
captainfantasticI installed xubuntu-desktop and now Unity login screen is changed. How to bring it back? I installed ubuntu-desktop. no change?04:30
bazhangselected it in the login window? captainfantastic04:30
captainfantasticbazhang: Xubuntu's login screen is appearing now, not Unity's default one04:31
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captainfantasticDoes unity use gdm as its default login screen?04:34
xanguacaptainfantastic: light dm04:34
tbwAh04:34
tbwI'm going to sit through a do-release-upgrade04:34
tbwmaybe i'll have better luck after that.04:35
kav3liWanted to modify my kernel driver to support AP mode04:36
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jdzielnyhello everyone.  I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and I've just hooked up a new LG HDMI monitor, and can't get any sound out of it.  The previous HDMI monitor had sound without issue04:40
jdzielnyI've tried changing all the sound settings, different output devices, etc., without success04:40
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daftykinsjdzielny: does it have speakers? :)04:45
k4m3h4t3hai04:45
k4m3h4t3can help anybody04:46
mieayamhai04:46
k4m3h4t3mieayam dimn04:46
mieayam?04:46
k4m3h4t3mieayam indonesia?04:47
daftykins!in04:47
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India04:47
mieayamyup, situ juga dari indonesia?04:47
daftykinsoops04:47
k4m3h4t3yup04:47
mieayamok, let's speak english04:47
jdzielnydaftykins, yes lol04:47
mieayambefore someone kicks us04:47
daftykins!id04:47
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia04:47
daftykinsor you could join your own channel!04:47
mieayamso, what's ur problem k4m3h4t3?04:48
YonOk, I dual installed a preinstalled windows 7 with ubuntu 14.04. now windows won't boot. [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "Installed in EFI mode" || echo "Installed in Legacy mode" returns legacy mode . Given Windows won't boot, what's the sure way to find out if windows was installed in uefi mode before i do anything else?04:49
daftykinsYon: it definitely wasn't04:49
Yondaftykins:  ok so given ubuntu wasn't either ...i should just run boot repair?04:50
Yondaftykins: interested to know how you know that too04:51
daftykinsYon: the first partition is FAT with EFI Windows04:53
Yondaftykins: you can tell that from the outputs http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662858 or http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662941?  Sorry..trying to understand...what lines tell you that which i'm overlooking?04:57
claudiociao a tutti04:58
daftykinsYon: you have a legacy windows 7 installation because it's got a 100MB NTFS partition at the start before the C: volume05:00
BaribalHi. I'm playing around with VMs. What do I have to do for new VMs to appear in my DNS under their hostname?05:00
daftykins"appear in my DNS" ?05:01
daftykinsyou should use IPs not hostnames05:01
mieayamBaribal: you've to use bridge mode in network setting05:03
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Yondaftykins: yeah i'd read that was an indicator but wasn't sure how definitive it was...ok so that's sorted, thanks. Ok wondering what implications that has for why "install ubuntu alongside..." option was not available?05:06
daftykinsmaybe you had no free disk space at the time, not sure05:06
Baribalmieayam, looking into it, thanks. daftykins, why? I'd end up adding them to /etc/hosts under the same name anyway.05:07
daftykinsso have you not even tried running boot-repair yet?05:07
daftykins!bootrepair05:07
ubottuBoot-Repair is a simple tool to repair frequent boot issues you may encounter in Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for more info.05:07
daftykinsBaribal: heh, up to you if you want to use things in such strange ways :)05:07
mieayamBaribal: welcome :)05:07
Baribaldaftykins, what would you recommend for us people who like using names instead of IPs?05:08
daftykinsi don't really cater for such usages05:08
daftykinsand you've already been given a valid answer05:09
bynarielol05:13
jdzielnydoes anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot HDMI audio issues/05:13
mieayamwhat issue?05:14
jdzielnymieayam, I'm not getting any audio at all.  It appears to be playing, but it's not working05:14
mieayamhave you try another cable?05:15
jdzielnythe cable works fine, it's brand new and works with the previous monitor05:15
mieayamhave you tried another monitor/tv?05:15
jdzielnyYes.  Other monitors work, and this one works with other computers05:16
daftykinsdisplays with speakers, madness!05:16
jdzielnydaftykins, with respect, you're not helping, can you please refrain from wasting space?05:16
mieayamplease go to #yourTVbrandHere channel05:16
daftykinsjdzielny: i'm a regular volunteer in here, i will not be spoken to rudely.05:17
daftykinsjdzielny: i'm sorry you're upset about not getting something to work, but don't act like that.05:17
jdzielnyI wasn't being rude.  I asked if you could stop interrupting with unhelpful banter05:18
daftykinswell don't comment again.05:18
daftykinslets get back on topic now05:18
jdzielnyagreed05:19
jdzielnyNow, here's the problem.  The monitor works with other computers, and this computer works with other monitors05:19
jdzielnyUnfortunately, though, for some reason, THIS system with THIS monitor doesn't work05:19
jdzielnyall the audio appears to be working, though05:20
daftykinslooked at aplay -L and -l output i take it?05:20
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jdzielnyyes05:21
ObrienDaveis the volume up on the monitor?05:21
h3x0rhey bazhang05:21
jdzielnyObrienDave, yeah05:21
daftykinsi would bet there are multiple sinks and the wrong one is chosen05:22
daftykinspastebin would've been better than a 'yes'05:22
jdzielnyaplay -L: http://pastebin.com/MViLUJ2J05:24
jdzielnyaplay -l: http://pastebin.com/rvUEQWPC05:24
daftykinsyeah, i see two devices then05:26
daftykinsjdzielny: try out speaker-test05:27
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jdzielnyin pavucontrol, there appears to be sound (the meter jumps around when sound plays), but nothing05:28
jdzielnyno sound at all05:28
daftykinsright because it's probably on the wrong device of the two05:28
Yondaftykins: installed and am running root repair...answered no to removal of grub 2 from current location...was that right?05:28
Yon*boot05:29
daftykinsYon: yeah possibly :)05:29
jdzielnydaftykins, can you explain what you mean by that? and what you mean by you see two devices?05:29
daftykinsjdzielny: i don't really see how much plainer i can be. look at the aplay output, there is a device 3,0 HDMI and a device 7,1 HDMI05:29
[gnubie]i’m reading on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels05:32
daftykinsyes?05:33
[gnubie]i’m wondering how am i going to retain the latest version and the previous version of the kernel automatically?05:33
[gnubie]dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge05:33
daftykinswell don't run that for one.05:33
daftykinsjust look at your old versions in /boot versus "uname -r" then remove all but the most recent two05:34
daftykinssimples05:34
[gnubie]the above command only retains the latest kernel. how about if i also would like to retain the previous kernel?05:34
jdzielnydaftykins, I'm not sure I know what to look for here.  what would a proper aplay -D output be?05:34
mieayam[gnubie] cool! you must be master in regular expression and perl05:34
daftykinsmieayam: you didn't read the link :P05:35
mieayamyeah, i didnt05:35
daftykinsthen you'd know it was a paste05:35
jdzielnydaftykins, which lines are you looking at?  I'm pretty good with linux, but I've never had to delve into this part of it before05:36
daftykinsjdzielny: no idea where you got -D from05:36
eeeessh?05:37
daftykinsnah, aplay05:37
eeeeoh05:37
daftykinseeee: jdzielny has no audio with an HDMI connected monitor, aplay -l = http://pastebin.com/rvUEQWPC - i reckon the wrong device between lines 3 and 6 has been chosen by the system05:37
daftykinsany good on that topic? :>05:38
jdzielnydaftykins, aplay -D to test a specific device05:38
eeeedaftykins: nope05:38
daftykinsi don't know how to use that, the manpage isn't giving it away05:41
eeeejdzielny: sounds silly but did you try settings > sound?05:43
jdzielnyeeee, yeah05:43
jdzielnyI've changed the available devices05:43
jdzielnythe bizarre thing is that the VU meters move when there's sound playing (e.g. a video is playing) even though there's no sound from the speakers05:44
daftykinsthat's pretty common actually05:44
eeeejdzielny: try clicking on a device05:44
daftykinsit hints at what i've suggested05:44
Yondaftykins: seems to have worked :) Thanks!05:47
daftykinswoohoo \o/05:47
revohi all, just downloaded icon theme pack from http://xfce-look.org ... just woundering how do i install so it shows up in settings / appearance06:03
lotuspsychje!theme | revo06:04
ubotturevo: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:04
frendaWhat's the equvalent for this command in Ubuntu? 1. sudo nano /etc/vconsole.conf    2. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-keyboard.conf06:04
revoi already downloaded...i just want to know how do i install ???06:04
Yondaftykins: ok so now i just need to tidy things up a bit. namely, the drive which shows in ubuntu has the windows files on it and contrary wise for windows..any suggestions?06:05
lotuspsychjerevo: read that last url, ubuntu eyecandy06:05
OerHeksfrenda, it is the same.06:05
frendaI mean is Ubuntu using those file like archlinux?06:05
revook, but im running xubuntu, does it make a diference ???06:05
lotuspsychjerevo: i think xubuntu also uses gtk themes06:06
frendaOerHeks: `ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-keyboard.conf` ---> `No such file or directory`06:06
lotuspsychjerevo: try #xubuntu to make sure06:06
OerHeksfrenda, i guess you want the equevalent of /etc/vconsole.conf  ?06:06
mieayamxubuntu xfce06:06
daftykinsYon: don't follow you there i'm afraid.06:06
wafflej0ckYon, typically windows can't read the linux filesystems like ext4 or reiserfs or any of the others instead it uses ntfs, typically I believe your /etc/fstab on the linux side may be configured to mount your windows partition which you could remove if it's in there, but you shouldn't be able to even see the linux partition from windows really06:06
revolotuspsychje,  what does gtk1. gtk2. gtk3 standfor ???06:06
wafflej0ckrevo, pretty sure they are gnome toolkit versions06:07
lotuspsychje!gtk | revo06:07
ubotturevo: GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI06:07
frendaOerHeks: `/etc/vconsole.conf` is empty for me?!06:07
revomieayam,  yes..thats site wr i downloaded my theme, but i came in .zip file???06:07
frendaThere's not any xorg.conf file in /etc?!06:08
mieayamrevo: dunno, doncare - maybe someone else know06:08
lotuspsychjefrenda: what are you trying to do exactly?06:08
frendalotuspsychje: To enable X11 language switching06:10
thedanyesHey guys.  I'm encountering bug #269904 in ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  A patch has been released, but apparently it's only for 14.10 and newer.06:10
ubottubug 269904 in Compiz 0.9.11 "Screen refresh problems with nvidia cards" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26990406:10
revolotuspsychje, ubottu  ...thx gents much appreciated for your time06:10
thedanyesIs there an easy way to load the utopic compiz package in 14.04?06:10
frendaI did it when I was on arch!06:10
lotuspsychjerevo: check this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/07/a-list-of-best-15-ubuntu-1204-themes.html06:12
lotuspsychjethedanyes: what grafix card and driver loaded?06:12
frendaArch linux had this file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf which I can not find it on Ubuntu!06:12
thedanyeslotuspsychje: gtx 570, 340.6506:12
jdzielnydaftykins, et al, I give up for the night.  thanks for your  help06:12
jdzielnylater06:12
lotuspsychjethedanyes: is that an optimus card?06:13
revolotuspsychje,  yeah i already had a look at that site, but was told not to install or follow instructions from sources such as that06:13
thedanyeslotuspsychje: no06:13
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thedanyeslotuspsychje: desktop card, it has powermizer but no optimus06:13
lotuspsychjethedanyes: did you install 14.04 with cable on/updates enabled?06:13
revolotuspsychje,  just onemore question...how do installfile after i download from website06:13
thedanyeslotuspsychje: cable on?  I run updates regularly... not sure what you mean.06:14
lotuspsychjethedanyes: during ubuntu install, did you have active internet + updates checked during setup06:14
thedanyeslotuspsychje: it's been a long time, I don't recall. I upgraded from 13.10. I definitely had active Internet though.06:15
lotuspsychjethedanyes: i would re-install fresh mate 14.04 + updates + internet06:15
OerHeksfrenda, edit /etc/default/keyboard. After that, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup to commit your settings06:15
lotuspsychjethedanyes: maybe its some weird grafix leftover from 13.10 troubleing your system06:16
thedanyeslotuspsychje: I don't follow.  I posted the bug report and it seems legit, and it describes the problem I'm seeing.  Are you saying I should already have a fix on 14.04?06:16
revothx all06:16
lotuspsychjerevo: http://sourcedigit.com/8704-customize-ubuntu-install-ubuntu-14-04-themes/06:16
daftykinswell that bug is from 200806:16
thedanyeslotuspsychje: as far as I can tell, a fix has only been released for 14.10, and I want to load that update on my LTS version.06:17
revolotuspsychje,  thx once more :)06:17
lotuspsychjethedanyes: im saying, we can try everything we can to make your system work06:17
lotuspsychjethedanyes: installing 14.04 fresh can do miracles sometimes06:17
thedanyeslotuspsychje:  I don't think it makes logical sense to reload my OS in order to try to fix a bug known to affect this version...06:17
lotuspsychjethedanyes: bugs are very relative, issues can come from different points06:19
thedanyeslotuspsychje: okay, well thanks for the advice.  The bug is annoying, but reinstalling would be a long process for me.   I guess my plan is to try to move back to the townsend repo where there were some unofficial compiz patches...06:21
frendaOerHeks: Thank you, It seems there's a little more problems! I'm following the below method which worked before on Archlinux/Manjaro. Now I have Install openbox on my Ubuntu server and that method does not work!06:21
thedanyeslotuspsychje:  I would have thought Canonical would take a 'high priority' bug in their LTS version more seriously.06:21
frendahttps://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Openbox:_Switch_languages_using_the_keyboard_and_xxkb#Install_the_prefered_languages06:21
frendaIs there any different in above files with ubuntu?06:21
lotuspsychjethedanyes: canonical isnt responsible to users upgrade issues06:22
thedanyeslotuspsychje:  it's a known issue with fresh installs as well as upgrades.   I'm not sure what you mean.06:22
lotuspsychjethedanyes: if you try 14.04.1 fresh and still have this bug, then maybe you can complain06:22
thedanyeslotuspsychje:  it's a confirmed bug.  I can complain whenever the fuck I feel like it.  Who the hell are you?06:23
daftykinsthedanyes: this is the first i've heard of it. i'd think we'd have a fair few more users if this bug of yours was more widespread06:23
daftykinsthedanyes: alright drop the attitude and don't use that kind of language in here.06:23
daftykinsacting like this is a school playground isn't going to get you anywhere06:23
lotuspsychjethedanyes: im just saying we have alot of users with troubles on upgrades..06:23
thedanyesdaftykins: are you saying the devs don't know what they're talking about?06:23
thedanyesthere was no information that indicated this was an upgrade-specific bug.06:23
daftykinswhat devs?06:24
thedanyesdaftykins: christopher townsend06:24
thedanyesdaftykins: did you actually read the bug report?06:24
daftykinsall i know is you linked to a 2008 bug which had posts at the end saying something else was going on so should be in a different bug06:24
Yondaftykins: sorry , made a poor assumption about the windows side ..wafflej0ck was right however, the drive that shows on the ubuntu side does have the windows files on it and if i group them into one folder with the boot loader can't find the files to boot windows so moving the others might interfere with other stuff in windows? Is my only option to hide them?06:25
thedanyesdaftykins: there was one user who had a different issue and was referred to a different bug.  read update #34606:26
thedanyes"[ Chris Townsend ]06:26
thedanyes  * Added support for GL_EXT_x11_sync_object OpenGL extension for Nvidia06:26
thedanyes    based GPUs to avoid screen refresh issues. (LP: #269904)"06:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269904 in Compiz 0.9.11 "Screen refresh problems with nvidia cards" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26990406:26
daftykinsYon: i really don't follow you06:26
daftykinsthedanyes: sorry already lost interest, bed time06:26
lotuspsychjethedanyes: do you know how much users come here with refresh issues in their grafix?06:27
thedanyesdaftykins: lol good night06:27
thedanyeslotuspsychje: I don't06:27
lotuspsychjethedanyes: dont be so stubborn, and install trusty fresh its supported till 202006:27
PolishPickersanyone uses ssd drives?06:27
Blue11too expensive06:27
lotuspsychjePolishPickers: yes, whats your question?06:27
wafflej0ckPolishPickers, yup06:27
daftykinsSSDs are great06:27
wafflej0ckBlue11, worth it06:28
sgen_are environment variables with '.' in them valid?06:28
Blue11i think a 1 t/b drive was $70006:28
PolishPickersi just got one 240gb for 80 bucks and my system feels on steroids06:28
wafflej0ckBlue11, don't need 1t/b just enough for your OS and programs06:28
wafflej0ckBlue11, can keep media on a spinning disk06:28
Blue11about 10x the cost of a hard drive ---- those will come down in price06:28
Yondaftykins: ok well in the side panel with icons in ubuntu, the hard drive is among them right? well when i open it it has files for the windows system on it and if i move them, windows is affected.06:28
lotuspsychjelets not discuss hardware guys06:29
Blue11k06:29
lotuspsychjePolishPickers: ask your ubuntu question mate06:29
daftykinsYon: yeah, i would recommend not messing with the Windows drive. just deal with the Ubuntu one06:29
PolishPickersthe question is there a proper way to make them last under ubuntu06:29
thedanyeslotuspsychje: I understand there are upgrade issues, I just don't see this as being related to an upgrade.  There are no problems when I use townsend's unofficial patches, and I was using that up until I saw the bug had been marked as fixed and allowed my compiz to be updated to the latest official version.  Unfortunately the fix doesn't seem to apply to LTS.06:29
PolishPickersis there a good software?06:30
wafflej0ckPolishPickers, you using 14.04 if so TRIM is enabled on drives that support it06:30
wafflej0ckPolishPickers, you shouldn't have to do anything extra06:30
PolishPickersyes i am 14.04.106:30
thedanyeslotuspsychje: Do a lot of users ask about refresh issues, or are you saying I'm one of the few?06:30
lotuspsychjePolishPickers: you can tweak your ssd in alot of was in ubuntu06:30
Yondaftykins: cool but that's the only drive readily accessible, as though it was the ubuntu one..only it has windows files on it?06:30
PolishPickersok i was worried about that06:30
lotuspsychjethedanyes: yes a lot of users having screen issues06:30
thedanyeslotuspsychje: mainly laptops?06:31
wafflej0ckthedanyes, it's a mix, lots of gfx related issues though, especially right after install06:31
Blue11wafflej0ck private message ok?06:31
lotuspsychjethedanyes: all kinds of systems06:31
wafflej0ckBlue11, sure I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic too if you want to get some other opinions06:31
Blue11wafflej0ck perfect06:31
daftykinsYon: open the file manager instead, you must just be new to it.06:31
lotuspsychjePolishPickers: check the ##linux-ssd guys06:32
PolishPickersthanks!06:32
sgen_Can I use '.' in environment variable names?06:33
Yondaftykins: and unmount the drive..sure doh..I am a a bit of a noob..cheers06:34
mieayamsgen_: you shouldn't06:35
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lotuspsychjethedanyes: upgrades are tricky, but upgrades from non-lts to lts are even more tricky06:43
thedanyeslotuspsychje: okay.  well like I was just saying, the bug does not appear when I run the third-party compiz packages from the guy who created the patch for the bug I mentioned.  I think it's pretty likely that getting the ubuntu compiz 0.9.12 package installed on my system would fix the issue I'm seeing.  It just seems like it hasn't been released for LTS.06:45
lotuspsychje!info compiz trusty06:45
ubottucompiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.11.3+14.04.20141104-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 127 kB06:45
lotuspsychjethedanyes: ou can do what ou like, but i surely would try trusty fresh06:48
thedanyesis there an easy way to see what the most popular ubuntu bug reports are?06:48
mieayamguys, how to use alis command?06:51
LaibschI anybody else seeing GPG verification errors after the New Year?  I have just returned from holiday and was going to update my two Trusty laptops and they are now both giving me errors on "sudo aptitude update" indicating that "the following signatures were invalid" 40976EAF437D05B506:51
daftykins!alis | mieayam06:52
ubottumieayam: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*06:52
thedanyeslol!  it looks like the highest 'heat' bug for compiz is more-or-less the same one I'm encountering.06:52
daftykinsmieayam: that's a network question. ask in #freenode for more ;) irrelevant here06:52
mieayamthanks daftykins06:52
thedanyesthe fourth highest is the exact bug I'm encountering.06:52
Laibschubuntu-keyring is installed and I have already run apt-key to update the keys but that program tells me the keys are unchanged after importing them again from keyserver.ubuntu.com06:53
thedanyesand yet no LTS patch even when they've provided patches for 14.10 and 15.0406:54
Laibschbrb06:55
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iLoveJavaI switched from windows to ubuntu to learn programming in c++. I'm a newbie in c++. I am trying to build a simple command line tag editor for music files using taglib. My question is this: Is it possible to download header files required for incorporating taglib in my program using apt-get? after installing where are they located? Do I have to include the full path of the header files?07:25
Angel_Of_Sorrowmaking a cuppa07:28
Angel_Of_Sorrowbrb07:28
wafflej0ckiLoveJava, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13216124/how-do-you-compile-taglib-on-ubuntu <-- this should answer how to get it, you can use dpkg -L packagename to see the paths for all the files in a given package07:29
wafflej0ckiLoveJava, regarding if you'll need to use full paths I'm really not sure as I haven't done any C++ in a while myself and really just used standard libraries in the past but don't recall ever using full paths07:29
iLoveJavawafflej0ck, I don't want to compile taglib itself. I just want to use them in my project. I thought like, first install libtaglib using apt-get, then install libtaglib-dev using apt-get, then straight away include the headers and compile. Is this correct?07:32
wafflej0ckiLoveJava, yeah typically you just need the -dev packages for whatever it is you're compiling07:32
grumbelDoes anybody now how to enable HMAC for ecryptfs?07:43
grumbelsee https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+question/25627707:44
userhi all. i disabled my external monitor momentarily but after trying to reenable it it no longer becomes enabled. what can i do?07:44
Seveasuser: reboot07:44
grumbeluser: I have a few scripts that use xrandr to change monitor settings07:45
syntroPihow can I use the SUPER key in gnome3 for having the overview in ubuntu 14.10?07:45
userSeveas: rebooting not only doesn't work, but i now experience a graphics bug where the laptop's monitor goes crazy for about 30 seconds.07:45
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ubuntu-342345grumbel: xrandr --addmode and such doesn't work07:46
ubuntu-342345do you know which xrandr commands are used to enable an external monitor?07:46
wafflej0cksyntroPi, works that way by default in 14.04, not sure about 14.10 though07:48
grumbelubuntu-342345: xrandr \07:49
grumbel --output DFP2 \07:49
grumbel   --mode "1680x1050" \07:49
grumbel   --panning "1680x1050+1280+0/0x0+0+0" \07:49
grumbel --output CRT1 \07:49
grumbel   --mode "1280x1024"07:49
unopastegrumbel you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted07:49
syntroPiwafflej0ck, i suspect gnome remaps it somehow: everytime i do dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration from gnome terminal it works after that... but not after fresh login07:49
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grumbelubuntu-342345: Setting a --mode should make it switch back on, using --off should switch it off07:50
shadowe989grumbel, paste.ubuntu.com07:50
shadowe989oh didn't see the message above my bad.07:50
Guest9995Hi07:51
Guest9995Anybody there ?07:51
SeveasGuest9995: nope, we're all gone.07:52
syntroPiGuest9995, 1576 people are here07:52
ubuntu-342345grumbel: the laptop monitor goes a little weird and flickers and the external monitor looks like its turning on but nothing changes.07:54
shadowe989not a soul07:54
SeveassyntroPi: of those, 10% are bots, 50% are asleep, 13% are afk for eating, 18% are on the toilet and 7% are visiting the in-laws. There's maybe 10 people in here :)07:54
grumbelubuntu-342345: maybe the monitor doesn't like the mode? Have you tried different modes?07:54
shadowe989!ask | Guest999507:54
ubottuGuest9995: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:54
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ubuntu-342345grumbel: yep.07:56
ZAKhanjust a general question .. any idea how to download images from an rss feed?07:56
syntroPidisect it with xpath and feed it tu curl?07:57
LTS14N00bHi All, I'm trying to transcode some video files into a compatible DIVX format that my PVR canplay on my TV. I have installed WinFF which looks pretty good, but fails with a "unknown error libxvid" error. i have checked their support forum  but the information is a few years old and doesn't work when I try it anyway. anyone with WinFF experience or can someone recommend another program?07:57
syntroPiHandbrake?07:58
Guest9995Does anyone know an LXLE irc channel ?08:00
wafflej0ckLTS14N00b, believe WinFF is just a frontend for ffmpeg command line tool, pretty sure avconv is the newer version of it though if you can't find or work with ffmpeg directly08:00
syntroPimaybe it needs some libavcodec-extra-54 or such?08:01
LTS14N00bsyntroPi: Handbrake I have heard is also very good, but it crashes when I tell it the source file :( I have also tried Outreel which appears to work, but I can't do batch (not a big problem) but can't seem to find the right configuration for the PVR to play it.08:01
LTS14N00bwafflej0ck: This would account why the support board is so old...08:01
ayer_...08:02
wafflej0ckLTS14N00b, yeah check out either https://libav.org/avconv.html or https://www.ffmpeg.org/08:03
Guest9995Wich account ?08:03
LTS14N00bwafflej0ck: Thanks, I'll have a look at them..08:04
syntroPiGuest9995, you dont mean #lxde right?08:04
Guest9995LXLE not LXDE08:05
Guest9995The distro based on lubuntu08:05
syntroPiGuest9995, there seems to be lxle on irc.ubuntu.com08:06
Guest9995I'll find it again, but I did not find08:07
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OY1Rq: just got a message saying i only have 4kb of free space on a drive with approx 66gb of free space, what's going on ?08:12
AlphakaremHi Everyone08:13
stewi1014024I would Imagine that could be caused by many diferent things. Any more info (was it a popup, or did you get this while running a specific program)?08:14
Alphakaremnewbie question ... my current kernel is 3.13.0-29-generic, I have updated to 3.13.0-43-generic but when I reboot and tun uname -r i still get the old version ... how can i fix that ?08:14
OY1Rstewi1014024, was that for me ?08:14
stewi1014024yes08:15
stewi1014024I don't claim to be an ubuntu expert, but I run my own server and have used it for quite a few years now.08:15
OY1Rstewi1014024, no i didnt run anything other than firefox, refused to download since i only have 4 kb left08:15
OY1Rstewi1014024, disk usage analyzer says there is about 66gb free08:16
OY1Rand df08:16
stewi1014024The only thing I can think of is if there is some kind of drive quota (per user).08:18
kahrlOY1R: have you run out of inodes? (df -i)08:20
stewiping08:23
Alphakaremany ideas ?08:27
SvetlanaAlphakarem: try "sudo update-grub" and reboot again08:28
stewi^ what he said08:28
stewishould have thought of that08:29
SvetlanaAlphakarem: also, «sudo dpkg -l *3.13.0*» should show you what actually is installed, using the 'ii' word at the beginning of the line.08:29
OY1Rkahrl, /dev/sdb             61046784   47948 60998836    1% /media/1TB08:30
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OY1Rlot's of free inodes08:33
wafflej0ckOY1R, perhaps try with wget copy the URL see if maybe it's a browser related thing or actually some disk/OS problem08:35
xchatterHi, anybody here who knows grub well?08:37
OY1Rubuntu refuses to copy anything to the disk08:38
stewixchatter: Just fire away. If someone can anwser it they will. I know a little.08:39
bazhangxchatter, tried #grub ?08:39
AlphakaremI did the update-grub and still on the old version08:39
AlphakaremI did also dpkg-l *3.13.0* and it showed a whole list installed08:40
stewiUnless its OS specific, you probably want to try #grub08:40
stewiUnless it's OS specific, you probably want to try #grub08:40
xchatterHi. I am running an encrypted LVM and corrupted by grub yesterday.08:40
xchatterNow I have booted from a live usb stick with Lubuntu08:41
stewitried grub-install as root?08:41
xchatterI opened with cryptsetup and chrooted08:41
stewiwith the appropriate options ofc08:41
xchatteri did grub-install /dev/sda as root08:41
xchatterI get the error: root@lubuntu:/# grub-install --recheck /dev/sda08:42
xchatterInstalling for i386-pc platform.08:42
xchattergrub-install: error: attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=1' in file `/etc/default/grub'..08:42
xchatterSo I edited the /etc/default/grub and put that line in there saved it and then update-grub08:42
xchatteranother try with grub-install but same error08:43
xchatterAny idea?08:43
stewiThat sounds not very OS specific. You'll probalby find better anwsers on #grub08:43
stewisupergrub is a great tool, and might help you. It will also allow you to boot your original OS. (allthough I'm not sure how it would handle the encrypted LVM)08:45
wafflej0ckxchatter, just read through some forum (arch guys but talking about the crypto problem) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=177655 this may be helpful08:46
wafflej0ckxchatter, they indicate you may be accidentally telling it to install grub to the encrypted partition which will cause this error but is a red herring to some degree... they also discuss a bit more of detail about the configuration08:47
xchatterI already read that earlier today.08:47
LucaxHello, how to change an image alt text in ubuntu? it doesn't appear as default08:47
xchatterUnfortunately there is not much on this topic.08:47
wafflej0ckxchatter, yeah don't have any encrypted partitions so not really sure, I don't have the need for local encryption really and would rather have a partition that's easy to read if I have system problems08:49
wafflej0ckLucax, do you mean EXIF info?08:49
Alphakaremwhat would be my next step to make grub see the new kernel ?08:49
xchatterOK. But thank for the help anyway. Maybe someone has the same setup as me.08:50
wafflej0ckLucax, alt tags are used in HTML markup like <img src="someimage.png" alt="It's some image"/>  whereas the EXIF info is a part of the image file itself and includes author date etc. etc. if you want EXIF believe Shotwell lets you modify those08:50
Lucaxwaffle: I dont know what EXIF info is. I am doing seo and uptimizing my website picture with good descriptions and it is adviced to add an Alt.text (a text that will be avaliable for text to speech robot to tell the name of the picture so hearing impaired can get to know the content).08:51
wafflej0ckLucax, yeah someone else came in here in the last few days asking the same, must have seen the same YouTube video... it's talking about EXIF tags but they call them "alt tags" in the video which is just wrong08:52
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Lucaxok08:52
wafflej0ckLucax, you really want both things for SEO purposes and accessibility, the alt tags in HTML markup help web crawlers, screen readers, and show when the image isn't loaded08:52
wafflej0ckLucax, the EXIF stuff you should be able to install Shotwell to edit those08:52
Lucaxok, great08:53
LucaxI have shotwell allready, so I guess that is my bu08:53
Lucaxbus08:53
Alphakaremany suggestions guys ?08:53
wafflej0ck!grub | Alphakarem08:55
ubottuAlphakarem: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub208:55
wafflej0ckAlphakarem, would take a look at the docs, pull up the man page, check out /etc/grub.d/README and see if you can manually do it perhaps if no one else has any better ideas08:55
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CobaltHello. Happy new year. I just thought of a question: How do I convert my useless right super key into an additional control key?08:57
wafflej0ckAlphakarem, I'm pretty sure that update-grub uses a combination of your /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ files to make the /boot/grub/grub.cfg08:58
wafflej0ckCobalt, you can check out, xev, and xbindkeys, might do the trick08:59
Alphakaremwafflej0ck, what do you need me to do to help diagnoise this issue ?08:59
wafflej0ckCobalt, xev to see what the input is coming into the system as and xbindkeys to remap using a config file08:59
Cobaltwafflej0ck: Does this use ibus? Because ibus seems to override everything.08:59
wafflej0ckAlphakarem, well I'm not really familiar with installing extra kernels so I can't help in detail but just telling you what I do know about grub or what I can decipher from my own system09:00
wafflej0ckCobalt, not sure about that I just used it when I was running Kubuntu/KDE so I could map some things I was having trouble mapping otherwise09:00
CobaltI had a solution with xmodmap before; and that conflicts with and is overriden by ibus.09:01
CobaltI'm having a look at xbindkeys at the moment though.09:01
wafflej0ckAlphakarem, but would check out the README in the /etc/grub.d and see if you can figure out how to write a custom entry09:01
wafflej0ckAlphakarem, perhaps can copy one of the existing configs in there and redo the update-grub, but like I said never done this myself so I can't really guide you09:01
Alphakaremok ... how about this .... can I "apt-get remove linux-headers-3.13.0-29-generic linux-image-3.1.13.0-29-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0.29-generic" which in my mind will force the new kernel to be the only entry available ?09:02
cfhowlettAlphakarem, ... and then update grub09:02
Alphakaremthank you .. I will give that a shot then09:03
xchatterWhen installing grub. Does it have to be grub-install /dev/sda or grub-install /dev/sda1?09:03
cfhowlettxchatter, you can put grub where you want but /dev/sda is the default09:04
utsavI want help with geany. Few days before, I accidentally open a file format with it that geany cant support. That file is still saved as a file which is opened first when I launch geany. This is preventing Geany from launching. Please help, how to remove the entry of wrong file format from Geany's Memory?09:04
wafflej0ckutsav, most programs that have user specific settings (like recent files list) store them in files that start with a . in your home folder (hidden files) typically you can just delete the . folder like .geany and on next start the program will recreate it with defaults, in this case since I'm not sure I'd just rename the .geany folder09:06
wafflej0ckutsav, worse case scenario sudo apt-get purge geany, then sudo apt-get install geany09:06
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wafflej0ckutsav, believe Ctrl+H is to show/hide hidden files it might be Alt . though depending on your file browser09:07
utsavwafflej0ck, I tried reinstalling Geany but error remains there. Ctrl+H is not showing .geany or some similar folder...09:08
wafflej0ckutsav, did you try purging it?09:09
wafflej0ckutsav, just remove will leave config files around09:09
wafflej0ckutsav, purge should totally wipe it out09:09
cfhowlettutsav, dpgk -P geany09:09
utsavOh, I see, I though t both are same... I will try it right away...09:09
utsavwafflej0ck, after purging and reinstalling error remains there. The error is "Geany tried to access the Unix Domain socket of another instance running as another user.09:16
utsavThis is a fatal error and Geany will now quit."09:16
ArcherReillywhat09:18
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feurdFor an obscure reason, since yesterday, when I press 'Ctrl-Space', it changes the layout of my keyboard. It's really annoying when working with emacs. Does anyone know how to change that?09:19
feurd(I'm using I3, not Unity)09:20
utsavcfhowlett, dpkg -P geany is also not working, can restarting resolve the issue?09:21
cfhowlettutsav, couldn't hurt ...09:21
iLoveJavahow to compile a static build of a software package from its soruce tar.gz?09:23
bazhangwhat package iLoveJava09:24
utsavcfhowlett, Yesterday I found a way of starting Geany anyway with no recent files, by staring through terminal as geany -i . I think I will have to proceed with terminal command. Anyway thanks for your help09:24
cfhowlettutsav, good detective work, Lou!  happy2help!09:25
ObrienDavefeurd, lmgtfy    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F243639%2Fctrlspace-has-been-bound-to-invoke-some-input-method-and-does-not-work-in-ema&ei=G7WnVMD1Oou2ogS6s4CoAg&usg=AFQjCNHn7COEWzVeBycQ1kILr6Hrb7_QpQ&sig2=rVfn6hv3ucV6o6-SGsa1Rg09:25
iLoveJavabazhang, rtorrent09:25
cfhowlettObrienDave, as much as I enjoy, we don't use LMGTFY in this channel.09:26
feurdObrienDave: Thanks. I've seen this page, but it uses the Unity DE functionalities. I'm using I3, so I would need a solution command-line based.09:27
iLoveJavasorry, 2g internet dropped09:27
bazhangiLoveJava, its in the repos why not install from there09:27
bazhang!info rtorrent09:28
ubotturtorrent (source: rtorrent): ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent from rakshasa. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.2-1 (utopic), package size 553 kB, installed size 1482 kB09:28
LoshkiiLoveJava: and why must it be a static build?09:28
iLoveJavacould someone please help me.. how to statically build rtorrent from source?09:28
cfhowlettiLoveJava, several people have asked you questions --- ignored questions >>> ignore your request09:29
m1dnight_guys, if I were to install a VM on my ubuntu of Windows09:30
m1dnight_How does one configure that? Initial RDP setup etc?09:30
m1dnight_A vanilla windows install has no way of being accessed, no?09:30
Alphakaremno .. you need to manually enable RDP on windows09:31
Alphakaremyou can console into it though to enable that09:31
Alphakaremyou can also install a VNC server on the windows VM09:31
iLoveJavaI have a remote shell where apt-get or similar tools are not available. So it is a huge headache to get the dependencies right. Also, I cannot install libraries in standard locations. So the only way I have is build a self contained executable with all the dependencies09:32
iLoveJavacfhowlett, sorry that was because my connection dropped09:32
cfhowlettiLoveJava, got it.09:32
wafflej0ckm1dnight_, don't know what you mean, if you install in virtualbox you have the GUI what's the problem09:32
m1dnight_oh hold on, kvm has a remote GUI manager thingy09:33
m1dnight_that's what I needed09:33
m1dnight_I think I've got it09:33
wafflej0ckm1dnight_, ah okay kvm... yeah haven't used that09:33
AlphakaremKVM is what I use and yes it has a GUI app09:33
wafflej0ckiLoveJava, https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent/blob/master/README <-- pretty much probably follow this, typical steps to build are ./configure, make, make install, not sure about this autogen.sh script09:34
AlphakaremVirtual Machine Manager is the name09:34
iLoveJavawafflej0ck, but they donot build statically linked executables. do they?09:34
LoshkiiLoveJava: if it's a fairly standard package, there *may* be a configure script and it *might* have a 'link statically' option. If those don't exist, then you will have to go into the Makefiles and change the compiler options to generate static libraries and then link them statically. If you're going to be doing a lot of this, you might as well get used to it.09:36
iLoveJavaLoshki, do you mean ./configure ?09:36
LoshkiiLoveJava: yes I do. What does ./configure --help say about libraries/linking?09:37
wafflej0ckyup will let Loshki take it from here since I've moved into web dev and had to google to get that answer09:38
wafflej0ckknow you can use ldd to check the linked files but had completely forgotten about how to link them into the executable09:38
Loshkino problem09:38
iLoveJavathanks Loshki, I am trying enable static option now09:43
m1dnight_hrm, the virt-manager does not detect my ssh keys09:43
m1dnight_ssh u@host.com works fine, but when I try to use it in virt-manager it doesnt find my key09:43
m1dnight_any ideas?09:43
m1dnight_"Cannot recv data: Permission denied (publickey).: Connection reset by peer"09:44
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m1dnight_oh, I had to to not run it as root and chown the .virt-manager directory in my home09:46
lorenzo_gg09:47
yourbeaudo you know what to do if you volume drops to 50 percent after a while when you play a video ?09:59
yourbeaudo you know what to do if you volume drops to 50 percent after a while when you play a video ?10:03
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vkkhuravaHi, My wifi not working, its not getting detected & also not scanning any available wifi connection10:13
vkkhuravaplease help, I also tried to connect using hidden wifi connection but that also not working10:14
jattvkkhurava: did you try with wicd?10:16
heaphi10:18
heapwhen i connect my harddrive inside enclosure over usb to my laptop i got error : http://pastie.org/981072610:18
heapi run badblock, fsck, smartool and i havent got any error10:19
heapit still says end_request: critical target error, dev sdb, sector 146407637610:20
heapany idea? thanks10:20
vkkhuravaJatt: its saying no command found10:21
vkkhuravaI am seating on same machine using Lan.10:22
ObrienDavevkkhurava, that usually means you have to install the command. sudo apt-get install wicd10:22
glenn_why canb't i install swat sambatool10:24
bekksglenn_: We dont know. How do you try?10:25
vkkhuravaI installed that and after running command its saying its seems like daemon running and if not remove some file in a location10:25
glenn_sudo apt-get instal samba smbfs samba-doc swat xinetd10:26
vkkhuravaI am using deepin linux -- Linux VKKHPG6 3.13.0-43-generic #72-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 8 19:35:06 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux10:27
ObrienDavevkkhurava, ok, this is UBUNTU support. i'm not sure we can help you here10:28
bekksglenn_: And what happens?10:29
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glenn_bekks o no install10:30
bekksglenn_: "o no install" is no error message I've seen yet. Pastebin the entire output of your command please and pastebin the URL.10:30
glenn_bekks what is the commando to start swat10:32
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bekksglenn_: It should be automatically started, since it is a daemon.10:32
jattvkkhurava: wicd is an alternative for network-manager. usually is more reliable10:33
glenn_how to open swat bekks10:33
roncaI am having serious trouble with Xubuntu software-center.10:34
ObrienDaveronca, okaaaaay, what kind of trouble?10:35
roncaSoftware-center and other update software would crash in Xubuntu. I tried re-installing Xubuntu and found that software-center would "fail" after I used it to install packages over 100 MB in size.10:36
bekksglenn_: Open http://localhost:901 in your browser.10:36
glenn_bekks wont start10:36
bekksglenn_: "wont start" is not a recognized error message. What happens?10:37
glenn_noting can't connect10:39
ObrienDaveronca, try, sudo apt-get install -reinstall software-center10:39
vkkhuravaJatt: then how can i run wicd10:40
ObrienDavevkkhurava, install and run wicd-gtk10:41
roncaWhen I try the reinstall as you said, I get "E: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall] is not known."10:41
ObrienDaveronca, try, sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center10:42
Cord_Hello everyone! I created live usb with latest ubuntu kylin on my 8 gb usb and used 2gb for persistence mode, the problem is it doesn't work.10:42
ObrienDaveronca, two dashes, sorry10:42
Cord_I found fix, to add "persistence" in grub.cfg but there's no such file in /boot/grub10:42
jattvkkhurava: install it with apt-get wicd10:44
vkkhuravaJatt: I installed that GUI but still its not getting detect my wifi10:46
jattpastebin the wicd.log10:48
roncaObrienDave: That seems to have done something. I am trying to use software-center to install LibreOffice. So far it seems to be working. Thank you. The test will take some time to finish.10:48
jattand ifconfig10:48
vkkhuravaJatt: what is the location of wicd.log10:49
ObrienDaveronca, in terminal type, sudo apt-get install libreoffice10:49
jattvkkhurava: /var/log/wicd i think10:50
ObrienDaveronca, terminal commands can save a LOT of headaches with GUI programs10:50
roncaSoftware-center is still downloading LibreOffice packages. It may work. I may use apt-get directly if software-center fails. When I tried apt-get directly before re-installing Xubuntu, apt-get failed. Now it seems to work.10:51
ObrienDaveronca, things get borked all the time. glad it's working, so far :)10:52
vkkhuravaJatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664408/10:54
roncaObrienDave: My main reason for using the GUI was its help in finding the right packages, alternatives and supplementary packages.10:54
jattvkkhurava: can you try10:55
jattsudo rfkill unblock all10:55
jatt?10:55
vkkhuravaok10:55
vkkhuravaJatt: nothing happen10:56
jattand then try to connect10:56
jattand also pastebin sudo ifconfig10:56
roncaObrienDave: Thank you. The GUI is taking a long time. Part of that is my Internet connection is through a cell-phone network, and part of the slowness is due to the supplemental packages the GUI added into the download by default.10:56
ObrienDaveronca, apt-get's job is to find the right packages and dependencies. as for supplements, that's a little tougher from CLI10:56
vkkhuravaJatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664423/10:57
roncaObrienDave: Maybe I should be using apt-get directly most of the time.10:57
ObrienDaveronca, what you call supplementary, are known as dependencies10:58
weecol!latest10:58
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.10:58
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roncaObrienDave: Actually I was talking about the optional extras. Some of them are very useful. Some are not.10:59
ObrienDavetrue10:59
LucaxSo if I get this right, is there nothing called img alt tag anymore?11:00
ObrienDavewrong channel???11:02
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roncaObrienDave: Well, I see another reason for using apt-get directly: the GUI is still running and doesn't show me enough messages to know details of its progress.11:04
ObrienDaveronca, you can also use synaptic package manager. it can show you the terminal output11:05
vkkhuravaCan anyone please help me on wifi issue on my laptop11:10
roncavkkhurava: Tell everyone what operating system you have.11:12
ObrienDavedeepin IIRC11:13
roncaObrienDave: I notice that I don't have synaptic package manager installed. I can use the GUI or apt-get to get it.11:13
vkkhuravaits Deepin 2014.211:13
ObrienDaveronca, both will do11:14
ObrienDaveronca, in terminal type, sudo apt-get install synaptic11:14
roncaObrienDave: I guess I can do apt-get even while the GUI is still downloading LibreOffice.11:15
roninwhat is this suppose to do seq $((2015/2))11:16
ObrienDaveronca, it's best not to11:17
EriC^^ronin: type it in a terminal and see11:17
ObrienDaveronca, you can only run one instance of apt-get at a time11:17
roninEriC^^, the terminal doesnt tell you what it does11:17
roninEriC^^, i know the output11:17
roninit prints integers until 100711:18
EriC^^ronin: yes11:18
roninhmm11:18
rypervenche!flash11:18
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash11:18
roninwhy does it need to be $(())11:18
roncaObrienDave: That is right. The GUI is using apt-get and has a lock on resources it uses.11:18
EriC^^$$(()) evaluates the expression 2015/211:18
EriC^^*$(())11:19
roninok11:19
roninthanks11:19
EriC^^ronin: you can get the same with seq 100711:19
ObrienDaveronca, :) you're learning :)11:19
ObrienDaveronca, the point is, the GUI programs still use apt-get to do the actual work of installing :)11:20
war10ckmy phones is not getting recognized as file system in ubuntu ? any way to resolve this issue ?11:21
ObrienDavewar10ck, what kind of phone?11:22
war10ckObrienDave, android .11:22
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war10ckObrienDave, its actually motorola moto g11:22
csrgxtutest11:22
war10ckObrienDave, any idea how to fix this issue ?11:23
ObrienDavewar10ck, sudo apt-get install mtp-tools11:23
war10cki cant connect it via my usb cable.its very annoying :(11:23
war10ckObrienDave, what does it actually do ?11:23
ObrienDaveyou have to use MTP to tranfer files to android phones11:24
ObrienDaveMedia Transfer Protocol11:24
war10ckObrienDave, ok. MTP stands for ?11:24
ObrienDave^^11:24
zxc98001.11:25
war10ckObrienDave, lemme try,11:25
ObrienDavewar10ck, also try, sudo apt-get install mtpfs11:26
war10ckObrienDave, not working.11:27
war10ckObrienDave, tried both11:28
ObrienDavetry a relog11:28
war10ck:-(11:28
war10ckObrienDave, ok.11:28
csrgxtui am starting using Arch Linux11:29
csrgxtuu guys dont have problem with that arnt u11:29
war10ckObrienDave, still no change.11:30
ObrienDavewar10ck, try disconnecting the phone and plugging back in11:30
war10ckObrienDave, tried that already !11:30
ObrienDavehmmm, thinking (smell the wood burning??) ;P11:31
war10ckObrienDave, ;)11:31
ObrienDavewar10ck, i dunno, i just plug my SGS5 in and away I go11:33
war10ckObrienDave, any suggestions ?11:33
ObrienDavereboot as a last resort11:34
war10ckObrienDave, ok. thanks for the information mate ! cheers11:34
ObrienDaveyou sure your phone is in MTP mode?11:34
ObrienDavetry a different cable,11:35
war10ckyeah. Its connected as MTP11:35
ObrienDaveoh, it says it's connected as a media device?11:35
war10ckObrienDave, yes.11:35
ObrienDaveokay, then it should show up on the desktop as an unmounted device11:36
war10ckObrienDave, it has only windows support? i tried it on windows and its woking.11:36
ObrienDavenaw, i do both all the time11:36
war10ckObrienDave, confused what is causing the problem.11:37
ObrienDavewar10ck, check xda-developers, those forums are really good. probably the best11:37
war10ckObrienDave, okay ! i will have a look then.11:38
war10ckObrienDave, thank you for your time !11:38
war10ckObrienDave, :)11:38
ObrienDavenot a problem11:38
flymehi11:44
roncaObrienDave: Now I have tried software-center, synaptic and apt-get directly. Each has its nice features. Thank you. Everything seems to work now.11:45
ObrienDaveronca, most welcome11:47
marian_you tube11:53
marian_admin11:53
ikonia?11:53
ArcherReillyyou tube what11:54
ObrienDaveadmin ;P11:55
kj_I have installed many application which I myself don't know.... now I want to remove them all... please help me with this12:03
kj_I have installed many application which I myself don't know.... now I want to remove them all... please help me with this12:03
ObrienDave!patience | kj_12:04
ubottukj_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:04
jattkj_: try debfoster12:04
kj_ubottu thanks for replying :)12:04
ubottukj_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:04
ikoniakj_: open the package manager, find the software you don't want and click "remove"12:04
earl_Hello12:12
ObrienDaveGreetings & Welcome12:12
earl_I have just reinstalled ubuntu, and I do not understand anything any more12:12
earl_Is there a way to get a taskbar with all my running applications?12:13
kasteHey, ubuntu noob here. I seem to have issues with reconnecting to the network after a suspend. The network manager only gives me the option to enable the network but then doesn't show any wireless offers. What could be wrong here?12:14
earl_kaste, can you run iwconfig wlan0 and ifconfig wlan0 to see the state of your adapter?12:15
kasteI rebooted so they are working again12:16
kasteI could suspend now but then it'd take a full cycle to give you the result12:17
mieayamearl_: no you cant, some app run without gui12:17
earl_mieayam, ok, but how about the apps that run with gui. right now I have firefox, a couple of terminals and xchat open. The taskbar on top only show the current application12:17
ObrienDaveare they all in the same workspace?12:18
earl_yup12:18
mieayami believe latest ubuntu have sidebar/taskbar in left, not top12:19
mieayamcheckout in the bottom of sidebar ...12:19
kasteis there an easy way to restart the wireless on ubuntu btw?12:19
mieayamusually opened app stay there12:19
earl_kaste, I usually flick the laptop wireless button on and off12:20
earl_mieayam, I only have a bar on the top12:20
kasteI'll try that12:20
earl_mieayam, I also see that the windows lack the minimize, and fullscreen buttons...12:21
mieayamearl_: you know, i hate the new ubuntu sidebar too ... it's slower12:21
earl_since everything is so different from what I am used with, I have no clue on how it is supposed to be12:21
kostkonearl_, that's gnome-shell not unity12:21
mieayambut if you want taskbar in top: maybe you should install gnome/kde12:21
mieayamor xubuntu12:22
kostkonearl_, you are using ubuntu-gnome not vanilla ubuntu12:22
earl_I installed the LTS standard ubuntu12:22
earl_I try to install gnome, and perhaps things get back to normal again :)12:22
kostkonearl_, more likely ubuntu-gnome for some reason12:23
ikoniagnome 3 behaves the same as unity in terms of task bar12:23
ikoniaso that will not change anything12:23
earl_brb, trying gnome3, perhaps I will find a taskbar application that work with gnome12:24
kostkonearl_, click on Activities on the top left and it will show the launcher / dock12:24
ikonianice job on not listening12:25
ikoniagnome 3 task bar works the same as unity....12:25
ikoniathere is an extension for it, but that can also be used with unity12:25
ikoniawhy listen to a simple fix when you can go and change your whole desktop software for no reason12:25
ObrienDaveyou can lead a horse to water, but if you gat him to float on his back, you've really got something there! ;P12:26
ObrienDave*get12:27
pahi12:28
pai'd need some help to compile myself the packages for kernel 3.17 on 14.04.. i see that on kernel.ubuntu.com there are binaries, but where can i find the source pkgs?12:28
ikoniapa: why do you need 3.17 and why do you need to recompile it yourself12:29
netcrashHello, how can I use the right click + ALT drag and resize in ubuntu like Mate and Xfce ?12:29
paikonia, because i want to patch it with nDPI and IMQ support12:29
paand sadly it seems that for both of these, they skipped 3.1612:29
ikoniapa: but ubuntu is not using the 3.17 kernel12:30
ikonia3.16 is the current lastest one it's supported with12:30
payes, that's why i'm here asking :) i found some resources online explaining how to install 3.17 on 14.04, but from binaries12:30
pawhile i need to recompile it12:30
ikoniado you know how to recompile a kernel ?12:31
payes. however i'd prefer to use ubuntu source packages, and create .debs of the kernel12:31
GBadWolfQuery - Ubuntu 14.10 install on Asus board - USB not working (3.0 ports will boot, but no HID)12:31
ikoniapa: are you sure you don't want the ndpi module ?12:31
pato avoid using a vanilla kernel12:31
ikoniarather than the full kernel12:31
paikonia, well, no. i'm not sure.. i thought i have to patch the kernel to use the nDPI modue12:32
pamodule12:32
ikoniaI thought there was a drop in module for it, I could be wrong thoug12:32
ikoniathough12:32
pai found a russian howto here: http://a7lanov.blogspot.it/12:32
ikoniapa: apt-get source $package-name will get the source package you want though12:32
paikonia, yes. do you think i can use the 3.17.3 source in vivid with 14.04?12:33
yourbeaudoes someone knows about an issue where headphones is detected by pulseaudio where you have none plugged in ; it happens on and off and then breaks audio via speakers12:33
ikoniapa: well no, as there is no 3.17 kernel for ubuntu12:33
ikoniapa: so I don't know where you're planning to get these kernel sources form12:33
ikoniafor12:33
ikoniafrom12:33
paikonia, ah so, these must be unofficial then: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.17.3-vivid/12:33
ikoniapa: they are mainline - unpatched vanilla sources12:34
vividid say kernel.ubuntu.com is official12:34
paah i see12:34
ikoniahence "mainline"12:34
yourbeauare there any multi-touch or touch gesture options in Ubuntu ?12:34
pahm..12:34
paokay then, i'll stick to 3.13 for now12:34
paikonia, do you know whether 3.17 is going to be available for 14.04 too?12:35
ikoniapa: very much doubt it12:35
ikoniacertainly not until a disto using it is released and it is backported as part of the HWE12:35
pahm i see12:36
pathanks12:36
csrgxtuwho am i12:38
cfhowlettcsrgxtu, do that in your terminal: whoami12:38
cfhowlettyourbeau, supported to an extent but not ready for primetime.  depends mostly on OEM support so ...12:39
kostkonpa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support   15.04 comes with 3.18  still alpha though12:40
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m1dnight_guys, could anyone help me out with creating a bridge?12:41
m1dnight_I'm breaking things over and over again :p12:41
m1dnight_I ahve p5p1 as my host NIC which has ip 192.168.1.13012:42
m1dnight_I want to create a bridge for a KVM client to give it ip 192.168.1.13112:42
m1dnight_(Or atm, try and get one from the DHCP server)12:42
yourbeaucfhowlett, ok12:42
m1dnight_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking12:42
m1dnight_I followed this tutorial but it doenst get me anywhere..12:42
pakostkon, thanks, very informative. let's hope in .3 then :)12:42
KshjlQuestion: Why does Apache starts as root-user and not www-data?12:43
ikoniait doesn't12:43
m1dnight_http://pastebin.com/F6MgQqZz This is my current network file12:43
ikoniait starts as root and forks child processes12:43
kostkonpa, yeah, it could easily happen12:43
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Kshjlikonia: Well, I am beginner and don't really understand this construction. Can you say me why Apache has to start as root etc.?12:45
ikoniaKshjl: because it needs to take a socket to the network interface12:45
ikoniaKshjl: it's not something you need to be really concerened about, the apache process actually does not run as root12:45
Kshjlikonia: Thank you for your help. What means 'take a socket to the network interface'?12:46
ikoniait needs to bind a process to a network card12:46
csrgxtuoh, i got it, i am a orc12:48
m1dnight_anyone?12:48
Kshjlikonia: Is there a possibility in Ubuntu to watch which daemons had been started as root?12:48
ikoniato watch them ?12:48
BluesKaj_Howdy folks12:50
ObrienDavewaves12:50
Kshjlikonia: Is there a command with I can see all daemons which had been started as root12:50
ikoniaps -ef | grep root12:50
cfhowlettBluesKaj_, tip of ye ole fedora to you12:51
BluesKaj_Hi cfhowlett , how goes it ?12:51
cfhowlettBluesKaj_, still in the rat race.  view has not improved12:52
BluesKaj_cfhowlett, keep up the good work :)12:53
ObrienDaveit's called "the rat race" because the rats keep winning ;P12:54
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Lorthirkhello. I think I need some help troubleshooting my ubuntu 14.10... from time to time the X server freezes, so I have to do a ctrl+f2 and then back with ctrl+f7 to unfreeze it. can I have some clue?13:01
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souliaqHi, I'm using standard Ubuntu 14.04, and I want some kind of menu that show me the apps in the traditional categories.13:06
cfhowlettsouliaq, unity really doesn't work that.  xfce will give you a "traditional" menu13:08
cfhowlettas would lubuntu13:08
kostkonsouliaq, in the dash you can click on the apps scope and then on filter results13:10
kostkonsouliaq, there's also the classic menu indicator http://www.florian-diesch.de/software/classicmenu-indicator/13:12
hariomI have added an init script. Ran the update-rc.d command to run it after reboot (ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664927/) but after reboot it doesn't run. Manually it runs fine.13:16
hariomHere is my init script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664956/13:16
xchatterAnybody knows the meaning of the GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK= option in the /etc/default/grub file?13:18
lotuspsychje!upstart | hariom13:18
ubottuhariom: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/13:18
hariomlotuspsychje: Yea, I know but lets solve the issue in hand13:18
hariomlotuspsychje: The init script comes from the package provider so I am going with it13:19
hariomlotuspsychje: Any idea why there is problem in the script (pls see the links shared)13:24
lotuspsychjehariom: maybe this can help mate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/388434/celeryd-not-running-at-startup13:24
hariomlotuspsychje: Already followed these but still the same problem. it runs manually but not after reboot13:29
lotuspsychjehmm thats weird13:29
hariomlotuspsychje: But the same script and same process works on another server13:30
lotuspsychjehariom: can you find any logs with error?13:30
lotuspsychjehariom: wich ubuntu version are you on?13:30
hariomlotuspsychje: no errors in log13:30
hariom12.0413:30
lotuspsychjehariom: pstree doesnt show celeryd ?13:31
hariomlotuspsychje: no. pstree doesn't show celeryd13:32
LogicalDashapt-get is telling me "E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages". My first impulse is to try and delete the file in question, is it safe?13:33
glennwhy will samba graphic tools won't start after giving the paswoord13:33
lotuspsychjehariom: not sure mate, im out of ideas13:36
ursnationis any1 alive here?13:37
ObrienDavenope, all dead13:38
yourbeausup13:38
yourbeauis Ubuntu the most secure linux distro ever ?13:38
lotuspsychjeLogicalDash: did you try apt-get clean and apt-get update?13:38
LogicalDashlotuspsychje: I moved that bad list out of the way and ran an update and now it's fine13:39
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: security is very relevant, depens on the user really13:39
lotuspsychje!yay | LogicalDash13:39
ubottuLogicalDash: Glad you made it! :-)13:39
lotuspsychje!security | yourbeau13:39
ubottuyourbeau: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server13:39
yourbeaulotuspsychje, ok, I am on Trisquel 7 and planning to switch13:40
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: there are packages to install for ubuntu, to tighten your security13:40
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: ubuntu 14.04 is very reccomended to install13:40
yourbeaulotuspsychje, ok but Ubuntu GNome or unity which one is better ?13:40
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: thats your flavor to choose13:41
yourbeauI have no seen a single Ubuntu Gnome review or video13:41
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: i find unity very intuitive to use, but thats personal13:41
yourbeauso I was asking13:41
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: if you like the gnome style, go for ubuntu gnome13:42
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: it all depends what your gonna be doing with your system13:43
yourbeaulotuspsychje, i like Trisquel so much13:45
yourbeaubut graphics sucks13:45
colbertis trisquel from slackware?13:46
yourbeauubuntu13:47
cfhowlettyourbeau, your system, your choice.  if you set your system based on the needs and preferences of others, you're gonna have a bad time;13:47
colbertwhy the bad graphics?13:47
souliaqthanks kostkon, apt-get install classicmenu-indicator, solved my problem.13:48
cfhowlettyourbeau, download ubuntu.  make a bootable USB.  boot USB and test for yourself.13:48
yourbeaucolbert, no non-free user subjugating software in Trisquel complete free software13:48
kostkonsouliaq, :)13:48
yourbeaucfhowlett, ok thanks13:48
colbertyourbeau: if you like ubuntu, find the right desktop for you13:50
yourbeaucolbert, I like Trisquel's GNU so much too I wish we could install some graphics but it would actually ruin the whole concept of Trisquel13:51
colbertno graphics, as like video?13:51
glennwy can't i see other linux desktops on the network13:52
reaperbladeHey guys, having some issues with recording on a mic the hardware works in windows so it isn't the hardware I'm running 14.04 it is connected via the optical port on my sound card13:53
reaperbladeI can receive audio just fine though13:53
BluesKaj_what are you using to look on the network , glenn`13:54
AlphakaremI have aproblem with a new kernel i installed14:00
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Alphakaremno matter what I do to install kernel 3.13.0-43-generic and after teh reboot I run uname -r and still get the older version14:01
Alphakaremwhat can i do to fix this ?14:02
ObrienDavetry uname -a14:03
Prezidentyes14:03
Alphakaremstill shows the same old version14:03
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m1dnight_guys, I've got my kvm up and running but when I enable KVM the internet is gone on my virtual machine14:03
m1dnight_any tips on what to do?14:03
ObrienDavethen 0-43 is not running14:04
geirhaAlphakarem: does   sudo update-grub    find it?14:04
Alphakaremhow can i get it to run ?14:04
ObrienDavelook up ^^14:04
Alphakaremyes it does ObrienDave14:05
ObrienDaveyou mean geirha ;p14:06
Alphakaremm1dnight_, when you load KVM, do you also lose internet on the host or just the VM ?14:06
ObrienDaveok, reboot for 0-43 kernel to load14:07
AlphakaremObrienDave, I did reboot many many times ... I have tried apt-get install Linux-headers Linux-image Linux-image-extra as well14:08
ObrienDaveok, as a last resort look into grub-customizer. it's from a PPA and sort of unsupported here14:08
geirhaAlphakarem: do you see it in the grub menu when you boot?14:10
norinder99Hi, rsync --link-dest=DIR doesn't seem to hard-link snapshots (DIR is left untouched).  What could be the problem?   I know that something is happening as rsync complains if an invalid directory is given as link-dest.  My script with full options: http://pastebin.com/F1419vRn14:10
* h4x0r-hacker away #hacker.cafe Welcome l33t Hacker 14:10
Alphakaremi dunno how to get to the menu ? but when I cat grub.cfg it's there14:11
feurdHi. I'm trying to connect my desktop top my laptop with ssh. But I have the message "ssh_exchange_identification: read: COnnection reset by peer". If I understood correctly, it seems that the server (my laptop) refuses the connection. How can I check what's wrong?14:12
ObrienDaveAlphakarem, try shift when booting14:12
Alphakaremfeurd, check if sshd is runnin ?14:12
ObrienDaveAlphakarem, hold shift when booting14:13
feurdAlphakarem: How can I check that?14:13
ObrienDaveAlphakarem, press shift when booting14:13
ObrienDaveone of those lol14:13
AlphakaremI will reboot now ObrienDave and report back .. thank you14:13
Alphakaremfeurd, service ssh status14:14
feurdAlphakarem: it's running14:14
reaperbladefeurd, service ssh restart does that throw an error?14:14
glennwhat is the best way to setup a network between 2 linux desktops14:14
Alphakaremthen from the other machine run ssh username@hostname-or-IP and that should ask you to verify the connection14:15
feurdreaperblade: Yes it does14:15
BluesKaj_glenn, just to access shared files or...?14:15
reaperbladefeurd, what error does it throw?14:16
feurdreaperblade: I'm trying to find a way to paste it here (its displayed on my other computer)14:16
m1dnight_-I FORWARD -m physdev --physdev-is-bridged -j ACCEPT14:19
m1dnight_is that no longer valid for ubuntu 14.04?14:20
glennblueskaj yes14:22
glennwhy see i only one linux en not my other14:23
feurdreaperblade: Here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9665282/14:25
lackmann#brasil14:25
reaperbladefeurd, looking now14:25
cfhowlett!br | lackmann14:26
ubottulackmann: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.14:26
leeyaahello14:27
leeyaawho on precise i cant start corosync with sudo service corosync start ( it produces no output or errors at all )14:27
reaperbladefeurd, just to ask something silly mate you are doing this as sudo yeah? And have sudo access14:28
feurdreaperblade: I have sudo access, but I'm not creating the connection in sudo14:28
reaperbladeyeah well looking up the error I found this it seems to indicate a permissions issue have a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112916 that said I'll keep looking if i can14:29
feurdreaperblade: It worked before, without sudo. Now, I just established a NFS connection, maybe it interferes14:29
Alphakaremfeurd, firewall issue ?14:30
feurdAlphakarem: I don't know, I never touched the firewall (if I have one)14:30
reaperbladefeurd, or even a port issue (unlikely) has anything changed or updated recently?14:31
feurdThis connection worked perfectly until I set up a NFS connection as well.14:31
reaperbladeah are you using the default ports for ssh and NFS?14:31
feurdBut I never changed anything (as far as I know) with port connections14:32
feurdreaperblade: Probably yes14:32
reaperbladefeurd, if you kill the service that runs nfs does that allow sshd to restart and run correctly?14:33
feurdHow can I stop nfs? I followed a tutorial to start a connection, but they don't explain how to close it...14:34
reaperbladewhat command was used to start NFS? service nfs start or something else? I'm not hugely familiar with nfs but shouldn't be too hard to figure out14:37
keithclarkvia command line, how do I copy the contents of one directory to another directory?14:37
feurdCould it be nfs-kernel-server stop ?14:37
shumankeithclark: man cp14:37
keithclarkshuman, I tried that but then I get 'permission denied'14:38
keithclarkshuman, I tried14:38
shumankeithclark: try with sudo14:38
shumanif you have such permissions ;)14:38
keithclarkshuman, this does not seem to work.  Argument list too long14:39
xchatterIs it possible to reinstall ubuntu but use an existing encrypted LVM on sda2 ?14:39
shumankeithclark: sudo cp dir1/* dir2 ?14:39
feurdohoh... I typed the command below, and now I can't see the content of the place my folder was.14:40
shumankeithclark: if you want to copy whole dir with content, then sudo cp dir1 dir2 -R14:40
shumanit will copy dir1 into dir214:41
shumanand all its subdirectories as well14:41
keithclarkshuman, no, I just cannot seem to be able to copy these files!14:41
reaperbladefeurd, more than likely most software has very similar command structure (I come more from a centos background) eg to check restart stop or start a service it is almost always systemctl ssh status14:41
reaperbladeetc etc14:41
shuman!paste keithclark14:42
keithclarkshuman, nautilus locks up14:42
reaperbladesystemctl sshd status14:42
shumanhehe14:42
shumankeithclark: you're trying to copy that from nautilus or cmd?14:42
* h4x0r-hacker say hi all14:43
keithclarkshuman, I tried nautilus but it locks up.  30 000 files.14:43
shumanif from command line, then maybe try to close nautilus window14:43
keithclarkok, i'm in the directory that I want the files to be copied from.  I want them to be copied to one directory above this one.  How to do this from the command line?14:44
Stylussalguem poderia me ajudar14:45
DJones!pt | Styluss14:46
ubottuStyluss: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.14:46
Stylussme desculpe e que lah ninguem responde14:47
zetheroo1how would I troubleshoot this problem: Chrome and Chromium cause my screen to go black and my system to crash in both Ubuntu 14.04 and Mint 17.114:48
Stylusssomeone could help me with the Linux partitions14:48
shumankeithclark: let's go prv, I'll try to guide you from there, ok?14:48
MoslWho decides which packages will be in the next Ubuntu release and when will the decisions finalized?14:48
WulframnStyluss: what issues are you having?14:49
cfhowlett!ubuntu+1 | Mos114:49
ubottuMos1: Vivid Vervet is the codename for Ubuntu 15.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+114:49
feurdreaperblade: I see how to stop the nfs server, but I think I should umount the folder on my desktop first. And I don't know how to do that14:49
StylussI am trying to create the partitions (`/` 100 GB / boot with 4GB, / tmp with 70GB, / srv with 90GB, / var with 70GB, / swap with 20gb and the / home with 350GB) and a partition for Linux and windows to save the FAT32 things 300GB so that after everything done and not linux installed it carries the HD [and 1TB14:50
feurdreaperblade: When I try, it says 'umount.nfs: device is busy'14:51
reaperbladefeurd, sorry mate I'm not experienced with NFS so I wouldn't know14:51
reaperblade:(14:51
feurdreaperblade: Ok no problem14:52
colbertStyluss: 20gb of swap? that's a lot14:53
Stylusscolbert: from what I read, should not be double and then some of the memory14:56
Stylusscolbert: think and why not carry?14:57
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AAIrc.oltreirc.net15:00
EriC^^Styluss: should be as big as the ram if you want hibernation, it depends on your use though as well15:00
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colbertStyluss: ok, i may have to change mine, i have 8gb of ram and I did 1200M of swap15:01
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colbertaccording to a guide i'm seeing now i should have the equal amount of swap15:02
Stylusscolbert: will be that and why not carry? and the size of the partitions are good?15:03
colbertStyluss: i do it simple, /boot /swap / /home...never done srv var...15:06
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Stylusscolbert: plus not srv [and an important partition should be separated? how to make this division in a HD 1TB? remembering that I want to make a FAT32 partition to 300GB to be seen by linux and windows15:08
colbertyou can have only have 5 primary partitions, or 4, you need to extend it, or you can use LVM, but as i told you, i do it the simple way, someone will help you better than I :)15:11
bekks4.15:11
EriC^^Styluss: why fat32? why not ntfs?15:13
feurdreaperblade: Well, I finally closed the nfs connection. But my ssh issue remain.15:15
wadI'm confused why this command doesn't work. I'm trying to copy recursively from one directory to a new one, but only *.CR2 files.15:19
wadrsync -r --include '*\.CR2$' ./unsorted ./t15:19
wadBut it's copying all the files, not honoring my --include directive.15:19
wadWhat am I doing wrong?15:19
* wad asks in #linux15:20
bekksrsync -av *.CR2 targetpath/15:20
bekksAnd your command works as expected: "copy ./unsorted to ./t and include all *.CR2 as well".15:21
excelsiorahi, was about to install from a thumbdrive (14.04), backed out of normal installation to "try Ubuntu", and the letters were glitching on the desktop in some cases, and continued back to install, letters were still glitching. Do I possibly have a bad thumbdrive?15:22
wadbekks, oh, I assumed that if something wasn't in the --include directive, it would be excluded.15:22
cfhowlett!md5sum | excelsiora, possible but I'd worry more about the media. verify 1. the .iso       2. the USB15:23
ubottuexcelsiora, possible but I'd worry more about the media. verify 1. the .iso       2. the USB: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:23
excelsioraI know the image was originally good, I used it for a prior install, but I'm replacing the harddrive and want to reuse it.15:23
NaughtalusHello I have been led to believe I may be able to find assistance here15:24
cfhowlettexcelsiora, you "know" means you actually verified the media ...15:24
cfhowlett!details | Naughtalus,15:25
ubottuNaughtalus,: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)15:25
excelsioraYes, hash and everything, and also used it15:25
NaughtalusAwesome, so I am running 14.04 with an nvidia gtx670.  I want full screen applications to launch in the right hand screen.15:26
NaughtalusSetting my primary display in nvidia x configure does nothing, ediitng monitors.xml does nothing and changing which screen has the unity bar does nothing. the only thing that affects it is the sacred and holy left hand position15:28
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Naughtaluscfhowlett i gave details15:29
cfhowlett!patience | Naughtalus15:30
ubottuNaughtalus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:30
darkdrgn2k3hey all15:31
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darkdrgn2k3is there a way to read the progress of the ubuntu boot (init scripts?)15:31
excelsiorashould I select encrypt my home folder?15:31
bekksexcelsiora: If you have to ask that question, the most likely answer is "no".15:31
excelsioraI think yes, isn't that where user data, docs are?15:31
cfhowlettexcelsiora, check your paranoia level and decide for yourself15:32
excelsioraTrying to do a best practice installation15:32
cfhowlettexcelsiora, you can always encrypt it later if you want15:33
excelsioraah I'm just going to do it. It has all morning to install15:33
compdocthere were problems with encrypting my home folder. Programs that I installed would try to read my home folder during boot, and fail miserably.15:33
nelskHi there, is there a standard env var to add an additional `PREFIX` like path specifically for make builds? I have my include/lib dir in an alternate location to the standard and I need to add them both to the search path.15:36
SrPxIs there any way to install dualboot ubuntu on OSX, except that, if I decide to, I can make it the only OS with 100% of the disk space?15:37
SrPxon macbook pro*15:37
cfhowlettSrPx, not at the same time.15:39
SrPxso if I install dualboot and decide to go 100% I have to reinstall everything?15:39
cfhowlettSrPx, alternate suggestion.  don't dual.15:39
cfhowlettSrPx, install virtualbox to OSX.  install ubuntu to virtualbox.15:40
EriC^^SrPx: you can delete the partition and extend the other one15:40
esklabo2 #chueca_euskadi15:40
SrPxokay thanks15:40
paradisebunnyone quick question, i have two harddrives, one ssd which is my system disk and one HD with 2TB. the HD somehow has an EFI boot partition, can i safely delete this partition or is it necessary?15:40
neopsychewhy .. oh why.. does NTFS networking have to be so complex on linux?15:40
SrPxI just had an awful experience with virtualbox performanacewise15:40
neopsychei get the idea that its possibly due to some proprietary issues in microsaft design.15:41
EriC^^neopsyche: you ask very difficult questions.. :P15:41
neopsychebut.. something like .. have to create path in fstab using command shell, chmod.. etc etc.. create samba share.. but in windows.. right click.. share?15:41
neopsyche:-)15:41
bekksneopsyche: Whats "NTFS networking" all about? You are mixing up different technologies.15:42
MV48Hi all, I just bought a new Asus laptop and the wireless doesn't work with Ubuntu (can confirm the wireless works on Win 8.1). It's a Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 and `rfkill list all` shows nothing blocked (which concludes that the classic fn+f2 problem with Asus laptops isn't the cause). How do I get a driver for this? Linux headers?15:42
cfhowlett!samba | neopsyche,15:42
ubottuneopsyche,: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html15:42
excelsiora14.04 auto-install will automatically handle setting up a swap for me, right?15:42
EriC^^excelsiora: yes15:42
excelsioracool15:42
excelsiorafsck to check the disk when it's done installing?15:43
bekksWhy?15:43
neopsychebekks. you are the ruler of the politically correct ubuntu user universe.  kindly now take a dump on the washington monument :-)15:43
neopsychethanks cfhowlett15:43
bekksneopsyche: Whatever you are trying to express.15:44
cfhowlettneopsyche, happy2help!15:44
neopsychebekks. perhaps i am just mixing it up a little ;-)15:44
bekksneopsyche: Just a little...15:44
neopsychethanks bekks have a good day15:45
glennhow can i check if mij networkcard is good installed15:48
bekksglenn: Do you have a working network connection?15:49
glennbekks yes15:49
vijuWhat kernel version does ubuntu ship with it?15:50
glennbekks form my pc i can ping the other by ip15:50
vijuFor me it shows - 3.2 But there was someone who said he got higher version than that.15:51
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bekksglenn: So your network card is "installed good".15:51
glennbekks but why can't i see them when i go to file->network15:51
bekksglenn: you cant see what and where (and why do you expect to see something there)?15:53
glennlik i say15:53
glennfile browser15:53
bekksglenn: What do you expect to see there?15:53
glennand there network15:53
glennall the pc's on the network15:54
bekksglenn: Why would they show up there? You will see computers offering shares AND advertising them, there.15:54
bekksglenn: Whats your actual end goal?15:55
glenn?15:55
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glennyes bekks15:57
rplutoHi15:57
rplutoCan some one help me, i cant figured it out what script or configuration opens a session xorg15:58
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excelsiorahow do I check for my swap?15:59
bparkerexcelsiora: free16:01
nomicswap is a volume16:02
nomicor should be16:02
glennhow can i access a share on other pc16:03
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notfadsssseric^^: you there buddy?16:12
glennwhy can't i install swat samba any more16:15
jimmy51vanyone here use dyndns.org?16:18
compdocjimmy51v, I do16:19
jimmy51vcompdoc:  do you know which service is needed to point something like home.jimmy.com to my home IP?16:20
compdocalthought they are no longer dyndns.org. now theyre dyn.com16:20
jimmy51vi just bought the standard DNS service but i'm thinking I need something in addition to that to do what i'm wanting.16:20
jimmy51vyeah... it changed to dyn.com16:20
compdocall you need to do is create the right records.16:21
jimmy51vah... A records and CNAME and all that?16:21
compdocI have www, ftp, phone, mail, etc16:21
compdochome would be just one more16:22
compdocyou have their client running to watch for ip changes?16:22
jimmy51vok16:23
jimmy51vi don't yet16:23
jimmy51vi have a domain and host for my main site i don't want to affect.  i've got to make sure this is transparent for that first16:23
jimmy51vthen i'll make the home.jimmyasdf.com, then i'll get the client going16:24
nadimsiteShall I upgrade to 14.10. Actually I am using 14.0416:36
nadimsiteNo one to answer.16:36
skaonadimsite: if 14.10 doesn't offer anything you actually need, stick with 14.0416:37
kungrno16:37
kungrif it aint broke16:37
NeurOSickhi all16:37
skaonadimsite: 14.04 offers support until 2019 as it is LTS, 14.10 only until July 201516:38
nadimsiteThanks skao. I have a question: what 14.10 offer more than 14.10.16:39
schiho_hi guys, how can i install libavcodec?16:39
schiho_Package libavcodec was not found in the pkg-config search path.16:39
schiho_command i run: apt-get build-dep libav-tools16:39
nadimsiteI repeat my question skao: what's new on 14.1016:41
skaonadimsite: nothing that new acutally - some small stuff, like new unity minor version16:42
skaonothing gamebreaking16:42
bubbasauresnadimsite, This is support that is a chat issue and we have a channel just for it #ubuntu-offtopic16:42
tewardnadimsite: The release notes are your friend - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes16:42
nadimsiteThanks skao.16:42
EriC^^notfadssss: hey16:43
EriC^^notfadssss: what's up?16:43
jimmy51vthanks compdoc.  i found it all and got it set up16:43
jimmy51vi was looking in the wrong place in the web UI16:44
notfadsssseric^^: it was the sas/sata raid and drivers that do not have the correct drivers for ubuntu16:44
notfadsssseric^^: i figured youd like to know lol16:44
EriC^^notfadssss: oh ok16:44
EriC^^notfadssss: lol :D16:45
notfadsssseric^^: figured toud like to know after all your help wtf was actually wrong16:45
notfadsssseric^^: you'd16:45
EriC^^notfadssss: yeah16:46
bubbasauresnotfadssss, Can you do it without swearing or acronyms of?16:46
nadimsiteThank you babbasaures16:46
EriC^^notfadssss: it's picking up the drive and everything now?16:46
nadimsiteThank you teward.16:46
notfadssssbubbasaures: I could but it would not illustrate the difficulties associated16:47
notfadsssseric^^: had to dump the raid card get new HDD16:47
EriC^^notfadssss: ouch16:47
bubbasauresnotfadssss, Than you will end up banned this is a clean language channel. As a matter of fact any one wit the slightest intelligence would know this.16:47
bubbasauresyou been on here for a couple of days now16:48
LinxcatI installed 14.04 on another laptop yesterday which had 12.02, but after upgrdage I am getting weird crashes randomly. How can i completely re-install 14.04 without creating a cd/usb?16:48
notfadssssbubbasaures: okay sorry It will not happen again, using acronyms i thought was acceptable.16:48
bubbasauresLinxcat, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot16:49
bubbasaurestry grml16:49
notfadsssseric^^: nah I have not gone and boughten the drivers I want but its a simple removing of the old and swapping of the new gotta run to microcenter later today16:51
bubbasauresLinxcat, Having the install dvd/usb is your best tool in your kit however.16:51
Linxcatbubbasaures: page doesnt exist16:51
notfadsssseric^^: then just use LVM instead of hardware raid16:51
Linxcatwhy cant i just re-install from ternimal?16:51
EriC^^notfadssss: oh ok16:51
NeurOSickHi guys.. I have a little problem with Ubuntu 14.04/Unity, All my indicators desapears..almost, I still have only : lang/mail/sound/hour16:51
Linxcati did the distro update from ternimcal16:51
Linxcat"ternimal"16:51
bubbasauresLinxcat, What page does not exist?16:51
EriC^^NeurOSick: try restart indicator-application16:52
Linxcatbubbasaures: that url you gave me16:52
EriC^^NeurOSick: or indicator-session16:52
bubbasauresLinxcat, It exists your mistaken.16:52
Linxcatbubbasaures: wow, i just learned that URLs are case sensitive. sorry I didnt enter Grub with a capital "G"16:56
NeurOSickEriC^^ no, this command restart indicators but not the icons on the status bar16:56
EriC^^NeurOSick: try restart indicator<tab>17:01
EriC^^try one of the missing ones17:01
NeurOSicklike guake17:02
NeurOSickbut nothing..17:03
NeurOSickEriC^^, after reboot, after restart applications, restart indicator, nothing appear.. but the applications running17:03
NeurOSickEriC^^, I've tryed create a new user session, and always the same problem17:04
kokutis there a way to search in irc chat history?17:04
bubbasaureskokut, Histories on the web and not a ubuntu issue.17:05
kokutbubbasaures: mmh yea i know i meant to search within the irc channel chat history so i don't have to ask the same question that has already been asked17:06
freeroutehi, is there a pax ppa with prebuilt kernels?17:07
supersobbiegood day.17:07
bubbasaureskokut, Good luck I think by now about any question possible has been asked. ;)17:07
freerouteor at least a .deb source package?17:07
SchrodingersScat!logs | kokut17:07
ubottukokut: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.17:07
bubbasaures!ppa | freeroute17:07
supersobbieI have run into an issue.  I tried to install ubuntu dual boot with windows 8.1.... but it seems to have failed17:07
ubottufreeroute: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:07
SchrodingersScat!details | supersobbie17:08
ubottusupersobbie: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)17:08
kokutSchrodingersScat: thanks man, but thats not exactly what i need, i was looking for a way of searching within all those logs17:09
supersobbieI didnt want to write an entire paragraph.  but I have a windows 8.1 dell xps.  I have one hard drive for windows.  I have another that has linux.... I tried to follow the instructions (UEFI CRAP) and booted to a usb drive17:09
supersobbiethen clicked install on a different drive17:09
kokutSchrodingersScat: i figured there could be a command17:09
supersobbieit did but now it doesnt boot to anything17:09
supersobbiejust gives the grub error (have to reboot to give you the exact error so it will be a second)17:10
supersobbiebut windows 8 doesnt boot and linus doestn boot17:10
supersobbiekinda pissin me off17:10
SchrodingersScatkokut: some search sites let you narrow it down to a specific site.  so you can search "<search term or phrase> site:irclogs.ubuntu.com" to only return results from that site.  If you mean you want to check your own logs, then you can try using grep against whatever logs your irc client keeps.17:10
Fredouille_hello17:10
supersobbiewhy did they have to make it hard... dual booting should be easy17:10
kokutSchrodingersScat: exactly17:11
Fredouille_is there a way to duplicate a file when it changes17:11
kokutSchrodingersScat: so first i need to download the logs to use grep?17:11
LinxcatWhen i get "System program problem detected" in ubuntu which one of the logs would have more details?17:11
jatt/var/log/syslog17:11
supersobbiealso I can not see the windows drive from ubuntu17:11
SchrodingersScatkokut: sure, if that's the way you want to do it.17:12
supersobbiesorry strike that last comment17:12
supersobbieI see PBR Image and WINRETOOLS17:12
supersobbiebut I can not mount htem17:13
Fredouille_is there a way to duplicate a file when it changes please17:13
kokutSchrodingersScat: do you know if there is any bot that could do this without me having to get all the logs into my computer?17:13
bubbasauresFredouille_, some context might help, it is a strange question the way asked.17:15
supersobbieok after screwing around I get a grub> prompt but not sure what to do with it17:15
bubbasauressupersobbie, Did you do a full image of W8?17:16
supersobbieit was a dell xps with windows 8 on it.17:16
SchrodingersScatkokut: can't think of one better than google17:16
supersobbiethen I booted to a usb ubuntu drive and clicked install17:16
supersobbienow all I get is grub>17:16
bubbasauressupersobbie, That does  not answer my question, you have to do that here if you want help.17:16
freeroutebubbasaures: I've searched that already before asking here.17:17
supersobbieno I did not do a full image of windows 8.17:17
supersobbieif you are refering to a backup17:17
bubbasauressupersobbie, That weas your first mistake, had you done that you would be all right where you started to try this again.17:17
bubbasaureswas*17:18
supersobbieI agree.17:18
supersobbiebut to be honest at this point I was probably just going to put ubuntu on the entier thing17:18
kokutSchrodingersScat: awsum, ty17:18
bubbasauressupersobbie, W8 has a refresh and reset option, might be where you have to go to get a new option, UEFI issues are not really well known as of now by many.17:19
supersobbiewhy is grub not picking up hte ubuntu install?17:19
supersobbieyea I am finding that... so far I think UEFI is S#IT!!! :\17:19
bubbasauressupersobbie, No swearing here and I just put you in ignore, with an attitude and just posting garbage, I doubt I'm the only one.17:20
supersobbiesorry it has been a frustrating day17:21
supersobbieI understand17:21
bubbasauressee a counselor for the drama we are just free help.17:21
supersobbieWoW.  k sorry apparently no one has ever come in here in a bad mood.  I mean I agree.  I help all the time in different channels.17:21
supersobbiewasnt looking ot offend.17:22
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abhimanyuny one ?17:41
Linxcatok so i fixed my error. :)17:42
da2000oi17:42
Linxcatin the ubuntu login screen, where you can select "lubuntu/openbox/ubuntu" are those JUST gui interfaces/desktops?17:44
Linxcatthe reason i am asking is because i have a "lubuntu" option there, which when you select it and login nothing happens. i was trying to remove it and reinstall lubuntu desktop17:45
Linxcatbut after removing lxde and lubuntu-desktop option is still there17:46
cpt_yossarianLinxcat: you probably have some lingering packages. try apt-get autoremove, maybe17:46
Linxcatcpt_yossarian: i tried, it says "0".17:47
trismLinxcat: the sessions are specified in /usr/share/xsessions/ so you could look there to see which .desktop file provides that session and: dpkg -S that path to find the package for it17:48
cpt_yossarianLinxcat: on trism's note, here's a SO answer for your problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm17:49
Linxcattrism: it says /usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE17:50
captainfantasticanyone know how to bring default Unity login screen back after installing Xubuntu-desktop?17:50
trismLinxcat: no I meant the path to the .desktop file, like: dpkg -S /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop;17:51
Linxcattrism: thanks, so the result came back as lubuntu-default-settings. should i try to remove that?17:55
trismLinxcat: if you want the session gone, yes17:55
Linxcattrism: in this context, session = gui desktop. right?17:56
trismLinxcat: yes but I'm sure you probably have other packages related to lubuntu lying around because removing lubuntu-desktop won't remove them, this will mostly just remove the entry from the greeter17:58
Linxcattrism: thats what i am thinking too. there should be a parent package which when is uninstalled  will remove the session item17:59
Linxcattrism: ok so i guess i gonna read up on completely uninstalling lubuntu17:59
trismcaptainfantastic: do you have a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ? you can change greeter-session=unity-greeter in that to revert to default, but recent versions don't really have one...otherwise it might have added a file to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ that used lightdm-gtk-greeter instead17:59
Mdgde2eHey gang18:01
SchrodingersScathowdy18:01
Mdgde2eIs there any way to limit processor cycles for a specific process?18:01
kastesure you don just want nice?18:01
Mdgde2eLike, I do not want to allow chrome to use more than 60% of the CPU resources at any time.18:02
captainfantastictrism: did the first one already, and I got to enter my password twice. thinking of doing former one manually.18:02
Mdgde2eAlternatively, restricting it to a specific core.18:02
kasteMdgde2e: read up on nice, it is probably what you really want18:02
stoogenmeyerHey anybody have success using tagsinput along with typeahead? can get each to work on its own but having some difficulty getting them to work together18:03
Mdgde2eI kinda want to play it safe.18:03
ahmad HexChat: 2.10.0 ** OS: Linux 3.17.6-031706-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "utopic" 14.10 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.74GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.7GiB, 77.7% free ** Disk: Total: 485.9GiB, 17.8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit18:03
ahmadEthernet ** Uptime: 10h 53m 19s **18:03
Mdgde2eIf it ever gets to crowd the CPU it will go north of 100% and stay there18:03
Mdgde2eAnd just queue into infinity until I cut the power18:04
Mdgde2eIf it were adhering to priority properly, I wouldn't be having this issue right?18:04
Mdgde2eBut I get zero resources for anything else including basic system functions18:05
kastesure you aren seeing swapping effects here? When I run out of ram and get into heavy swapping that is the only time I see stuff like that18:06
Mdgde2eMaybe..18:06
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irthwhat does ubuntu/xubuntu use to encrypt /home directory (in installer)18:39
irth?18:39
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squeegilyI know that I can add host aliases in ~/.ssh/config, and then I can just go to sftp://<alias> in the file manager, but is there anything similar for FTP?18:48
squeegilyLike if I've added a laptop alias, then when I access it in the file manager, it'll show up as "/ on laptop" instead of "/ on 192.168.0.1…"18:49
irthi don't know if there's an ubuntu-specific gui solution18:52
cfrielerI'm having trouble with a MDADM created RAID 5 array properly mounting and SAMBA sharing after a power glitch reboot..18:52
cfrielerIs this the correct place to ask a few noob questions?18:52
irthbut generally on linux you can modify /etc/hosts18:52
squeegilyIs there something that's not a drastic system-wide change?18:53
squeegilyLike ~/.ssh/config, but for FTP?18:53
irthbut that only allows you to specify custom hostnames for IPs18:53
irthi don't know18:53
squeegilyWhich cleans up the GUI perfectly since it says "/ on laptop"18:53
squeegilyit would be handy to have the router's FTP show up as "/ on router" instead of "/ on 192.168.0.1"18:53
irth/etc/hosts will work like that i think18:54
squeegilyBut that's pretty drastic18:54
irthwell if that's your computer it's not :v18:55
irthdunno, i come from arch linux :P18:55
cfrielerAnyone here know how to troubleshoot an MDADM RAID5 volume on 14.04?19:00
SchrodingersScat!ask | cfrieler19:01
ubottucfrieler: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:01
squeegilyirth: It's my computer, but using root to change system-wide things for a single user's FTP server falls under Drastic ;)19:01
squeegilyI come from Arch as well.. I switched to Ubuntu because I was tired of maintaining my Arch installations19:02
cfrieler!ask19:03
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:03
irthsqueegily: well, 192.168.0.1 will be router for everyone who uses that computer, unless they connect it somewhere else xP19:06
squeegilyirth: yeah but it looks ugly19:07
squeegilyAnd some day I might on a whim change the subnet and I don't want to have a bunch of things system-wide configured to count on that subnet19:07
squeegilyThis sort of thing is one of the reasons I bailed on Arch19:07
cfrieler!patience19:08
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:08
SchrodingersScatcfrieler: so I'm saying you may not be giving enough details, what is happening, what you've tried, etc., or no one is on that has any input.19:10
cfrielerScrodingersScat:  Thanks - Old guy, first time on IRC  -   so I'm still unclear on controls and protocol.  I've got a home media server set up on 14.04, 28TB mdadm RAID5 volume on 8 4TB drives that is SAMBA shared to a collection of WIn7 systems.  We had a power glitch this AM and now the volume won't automount, and if I mount it, the SAMBA shares aren't working. I have spent 6 hours trying various things from the internet, but an no19:15
cfrielerSorry, Character limit on a single line...   Where do I find a relevant troubleshooting guide? or What is the first thning to check?19:17
joespeakeasycfieler have you tried accessing the data with another system? like a live os?19:17
debarshiHi19:18
debarshiI was wondering, Ubuntu LTS releases such as 14.04 are less buggy than 14.10 or regular releases, right?19:19
TheTopBlokeUh, I don't think so. I believe 14.10 is stable but I could be wrong19:20
cfrielerdebarhi: The stated difference is that thr LTS versions are supported longer, not that they  are necessarily less buggy.19:20
joespeakeasyI'm new to bash and I've hit a hurdle. I have a simple function that I use to wrap up a series of sed commands. when I pass parameters as strings, all is well. however when I pass $VARIABLES… the function behaves strangely. Can anyone point me to some docs that may help me sort this out?19:21
bubbasauresdebarshi, all opinions is all19:21
EriC^^joespeakeasy: use sed 's@$var@$var@'19:22
debarshiSo one of the thing that kinda bothers me a little with ubuntu (and opensource operating systems in general, even though I support the movement) is that it seems there are always little bugs.. like on 14.04 right now, sometimes, when I drag my mouse on the desktop and that orange square pops up, the orange square stays and doesn't just disappear like it's supposed to19:23
debarshithat's a small tiny bug... but it does kinda bother me19:23
SchrodingersScatjoespeakeasy: the wooledge bash wiki is very nice, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/CompoundCommands#Functions19:24
joespeakeasyEriC, no luck… I'll post it to pastebin. I'm dumbfounded19:24
XCVBcleverbot test19:24
bubbasauresdebarshi, All software has bugs, many times here we see bugs exclaimed on user errors is all.19:24
debarshibubbasaures: Your correct, at least I don't use Windows anymore!!! LOL (haven't in like 4 years)19:26
colliziondebarshi: Wish I could say the same.19:26
bubbasauresdebarshi, Not a proclamation that flys for me but whatever.19:27
joespeakeasySchrodingersScat (Alive I hope): that looks good. I wish I would have found that primer earlier.19:27
SchrodingersScatjoespeakeasy: there is also a #bash here on freenode, has many knowledgeable people19:28
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joespeakeasyI'll head there now, thanks so much.19:29
TheTopBlokeanyone here use textmate?19:29
debarshibubbasaure: So I was wondering.. for years I've been trying to learn how to help develop for the ubuntu operating system... I've joined IRC groups before, but no luck... I just don't know where I could learn the essentials.. I know how to use gcc and g++ for small things like command line programs.. but I have no idea how to do QT and GTK+ etc... I know Java too, but I'm not super good at the gui stuff either.. where can I learn?19:30
debarshiI also would love to help with the operating system (AKA the actual system development) in general19:30
mike802why do you refer to it is "developing for ubuntu"19:31
mike802it sounds like you've already found a program19:31
bubbasauresdebarshi, You can tab complete nicks to get them correct. There is a support system to ubuntu not sure where to start myself.19:33
debarshiAs in? I mean I know some simple stuff.. but learning gui graphics and also stuff like.. I wanna learn the networking apsects of Ubuntu, I want to learn how Ubuntu and linux works at it's core.. I know linux is a monolithic kernel... but I want to learn more... how does all this get developed??? System.out.println(); and cout<< is one thing.. but how do.. I really want to become more of a hacker (Ethical hacker of course) I want t19:34
debarshio use the system to its full potential.. but to tell you the truth.. I'm only 16 and have little idea what I'm doing19:34
TheTopBlokeis there perhaps a better ubuntu chat related to servers?19:34
SchrodingersScat!server | TheTopBloke19:35
ubottuTheTopBloke: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server19:35
bubbasauresdebarshi, This is all offtopic, there is a channel just for that #ubuntu-offtopic19:35
debarshibubbasaures: Thank you!!!! :D19:35
Skyriderback 2 windows it is19:36
SiilwynHi people, after using Ubuntu for a while what email app would you recommend instead of Thunderbird?19:38
SiilwynThunderbird has a bit too much clutter in my opinion.19:38
dreamcat5Siilwyn: i would gmail in a web brower for any platform19:39
mike802i can't believe mozilla dropped support for thunderbird19:39
mike802out of things to do, how lazy19:39
Siilwynmike802, they did? ;0 I didn't know that.19:39
dotuthello, using 12.04LTS, remote/direct printers show up in cups (lpinfo -v) but not gtk print dialog...any ideas?19:40
Siilwyndreamcat5, I do use gmail but it's handy if I can read recent email offline.19:40
SchrodingersScat!ot | mike802, I'm not sure what major improvements in thunderbird you are waiting for, but,19:40
ubottumike802, I'm not sure what major improvements in thunderbird you are waiting for, but,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:40
SiilwynAnybody knows in what order the wifi networks are sorted? (Seems random to me.)19:43
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m0h4wkHi there, I was wondering if someone could help me with a question I have19:44
m0h4wkI have 2 hard drives on my laptop right now, an SSD and an HDD. I dual installed Windows 8 and Ubuntu on the SSD. Is there any way to make it so that all my data/files are stored on my HDD? Such as Ubuntu apps, backups, etc.?19:45
dreamcat5Siilwyn: maybe look for a chrome or firefox plugin for offline gmail browsing19:45
jattm0h4wk: put /home in a partition on your hdd19:46
m0h4wkjatt: what do you mean?19:46
dreamcat5Siilwyn: there is supposted to be one for Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ejidjjhkpiempkbhmpbfngldlkglhimk19:47
SchrodingersScatm0h4wk: during a manual partition setup you can tell ubuntu to place things where you like, so you could make a partition on you hdd and tell it to place /home/ there.  (Then all user files would be on the hdd rather than ssd)  You can do this for more than just home, but not sure what would be suggested in your setup.19:48
elichai2hey19:49
elichai2i have Ubuntu 14.1019:49
elichai2and I had no upgrades for more than a week19:49
elichai2any ideas why?19:49
m0h4wkjatt: I think I'm just going to save my all my physical files on my HDD manually by creating a shortcut to a folder there and keep the apps on the SSD. That would make more sense.19:49
elichai2here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/?C=M;O=A19:51
jattm0h4wk: sure that's another approach that should work19:51
elichai2I can see that `utopic-changes` last change was in 22.1219:51
elichai2why?19:51
m0h4wkjatt: thanks!19:51
elichai2someone?19:53
jattelichai2: maybe there are no changes since 22.1219:54
elichai2lol, i never saw so long time with no changes19:54
SchrodingersScatwas really only a bit over a week ago19:54
elichai2I used Arch until a few months ago, So I'm used for updates every day...19:55
elichai2I'm thinking of upgrading to 15.04 :P19:55
SchrodingersScat!ubuntu+1 | elichai219:56
ubottuelichai2: Vivid Vervet is the codename for Ubuntu 15.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+119:56
elichai2kk lol19:56
alteregoadarmok and jalad on the ocean19:58
SiilwynThanks dreamcat519:58
dreamcat5np19:59
tewardnetwork manager isn't scanning for wifi networks more than once every 5 minutes is there any way to change that?20:00
jattteward: askubuntu is your friend:20:02
jatthttp://askubuntu.com/questions/53498/how-to-change-the-refresh-rate-at-which-the-network-manager-updates-the-wireless20:02
SiilwynSomething else about the network manager, does anybody know the order of the networks?20:03
SiilwynIt doesn't seem to be ordered at all, would be better if it got ordered by signal strength.20:03
SchrodingersScatmine seems to be alphabetical20:04
BlueProtoman0Help!  I'm on Ubuntu 14.10, and it won't boot!  When I try, it says "General error mounting filesystems" and dumps me to a root shell in maintenance mode.  I don't know how I can paste the exact error, as I'm writing this on my tablet.  Any tips?20:04
SiilwynMine isn't, I got: S, U, K, P, T, V.20:05
SiilwynBlueProtoman0, have you tried booting with a installation usb or cd?20:06
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BlueProtoman0Siilwyn: No.  However, I do have a Windows partition on this machine that runs fine.20:07
BlueProtoman0I don't have a means of installing a boot disk at tge moment.20:08
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SiilwynBlueProtoman0, I would try running it live just to test if it's related to Ubuntu not detecting it well or your current installation being wrong.20:08
chrlsdrntf20:08
SiilwynBut I'm not an expert at all so maybe somebody else got some better troubleshooting tips. I do know installing Ubuntu on an usb stick is a pretty easy first step.20:09
BlueProtoman0Siilwyn: I've been running Ubuntu on this laptop for years, and 14.10 for weeks.  I didn't do anything fancy last night, I just woke up and bam, fuck me.20:10
SiilwynBlueProtoman0, that's really odd.20:11
jattBlueProtoman0: did you try to update/upgrade packages before it broke?20:13
chrlsdrntBlueProtoman0: Check your fstab20:14
chrlsdrntIt's most likely an issue with fstab. Check the contents of it. you can 'cat' or 'nano' /etc/fstab. You can find out the UUID of your drives with 'blkid'20:16
Siilwynchrlsdrnt, how could the contents of fstab be changed all the sudden?20:17
chrlsdrntan upgrade? I dont know but its the first place i would check20:17
SiilwynJust curious. Would be really bad if an upgrade 'broke it'.20:18
chrlsdrnthttp://askubuntu.com/questions/199487/general-error-mounting-file-systems20:18
chrlsdrntI have had all sorts of weird things happen over the years. nothing surprises me anymore20:19
tewardjatt: thanks20:19
Siilwynchrlsdrnt, that's a shame, I switched to Ubuntu for reliability too. Had no issues for two years now.20:21
BlueProtoman0jatt: No.20:21
dreamcat5i had major issues after adding a 3rd party apt source which was a Debian - that really screwed it all up20:21
dreamcat5apart from that, it's been mostly ok20:22
BlueProtoman0chrlsdrnt: Okay, so what do I do with fstab?20:22
chrlsdrntI've used it on and off since 8.04... Its been an interesting ride20:22
chrlsdrntHave you opened it? vi /etc/fstab20:22
chrlsdrntor nano20:22
chrlsdrntwhatever editor you want20:22
BlueProtoman0Ye20:23
chrlsdrntok so you should see UUID=NUMBERS/LETTERS followed by a '/'20:23
BlueProtoman0Yep20:23
chrlsdrntshould be 2 entries. one for root and one for swap20:23
BlueProtoman0I have three; got a separate home partition20:24
chrlsdrntah gotcha. if you cat /var/log/kern.log do you see anything about i/o errors20:24
dreamcat5BlueProtoman0: did you try booting into the 'Advanded' --> Recovery gub menu option ?20:24
BlueProtoman0dreamcat5: No20:25
dreamcat5there you can run fsck on your / partition, repair apt-get etc.20:25
chrlsdrntcan u reboot to a hardware diagnostic to check the smart status of the drive20:25
BlueProtoman0chrlsdrnt: There are errors in the kernel log.20:26
chrlsdrntinput output errors?20:26
BlueProtoman0One, yeah20:26
chrlsdrntsounds like a failing drive.20:26
chrlsdrntBUT20:26
chrlsdrntthere should be mulitple20:26
chrlsdrntno just one20:26
chrlsdrntnot*20:26
BlueProtoman0So why does my Windows parition still work?20:26
dreamcat5BlueProtoman0: you should think about backing up your /home/ folder too20:27
daftykinsBlueProtoman0: run "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"20:27
chrlsdrntyou can boot to windows?20:27
daftykinsor download crystaldiskinfo in Windows20:28
BlueProtoman0Yep.  Just fine.20:28
daftykinsBlueProtoman0: go fetch crystaldiskinfo then.20:29
chrlsdrntdid any updates run before you rebooted?20:29
BlueProtoman0I can't install smartmontools, apt-get won't let me20:29
BlueProtoman0No, no updates20:29
chrlsdrntdownload crystal disk info20:29
chrlsdrntin windows20:29
chrlsdrnthttp://sourceforge.jp/projects/crystaldiskinfo/downloads/58588/CrystalDiskInfo5_6_2.zip/20:29
daftykinsoh look, an echo :)20:30
chrlsdrntyeah20:30
chrlsdrnthaha20:30
BlueProtoman0My /home partition is encrypted, though20:30
chrlsdrntsorry20:30
daftykinsrun it, point to: Function -> Advanced Feature -> Raw Values -> 10 [DEC] - then share a screenshot20:30
BlueProtoman0Gimme a few, then20:30
dreamcat5BlueProtoman0: well if it's a seperate partition, maybe you can still dd copy the whole thing (if it's not too big)20:31
daftykinsyou have 4 minutes, Mr. Bond20:31
chrlsdrntsounds like just enough time for a vodka martini20:31
chrlsdrntshaken... not stirred20:31
BlueProtoman0dreamcat5: ~200 GB20:31
BlueProtoman0chrlsdrnt: With a slice of lemon peel20:32
daftykinsi recommend the portable zip version btw, of crystaldiskinfo20:32
chrlsdrntI wonder what you would get if you tried to manually mount the file systems from the command line20:34
chrlsdrntwith 'mount -a'20:34
BlueProtoman0When I boot back to Linux, I'll try that and let you know20:34
daftykinsi think you should consider crossing bridges once you come to them, find out the disk's status first :P20:34
daftykinsand really, live media would be the best next step. why can't you create a flash drive from Windows?20:35
BlueProtoman0I have Advanced System Care already20:35
BlueProtoman0Because I have no flash drive or CDs on me20:35
daftykinsso you're not home?20:36
daftykinsadvanced what?20:36
dreamcat5BlueProtoman0: i have easy2boot permanmently installed on a FAT32 partition of my HDD. no external media required, just the .iso file ;)20:36
dreamcat5you would need a very particular partiton layout however20:36
chrlsdrntbrb20:36
daftykinsdreamcat5: not much use locking the horse pen once the horse has already bolted20:37
darkdrgn2k3ok driving me nutz i have user-session=myth20:39
darkdrgn2k3 set but it STILLS loads blackbox20:39
Turingihello, has youtube-dl been updated recently?20:47
Turingiit's stopped working for a few weeks20:47
daftykinsif it doesn't work, likely youtube has changed things that prevent it for now20:48
daftykinsyou'll have to play the waiting game20:48
SchrodingersScatTuringi: 2014.12.16.2 was still working for me, there's 2015.01.03 now though.20:50
SchrodingersScatand that means it was updated today20:51
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akpatelhi20:52
cfrielerjoespeakeasy: Volume won't mount with a simple right click > mount. If I go in and mount it with GParted, I can see the data and all looks fine. GParted reports that the GPT table on each of the drives is "corrupted", but I've seen that since the volume was created and assumed it was an incompatibility between MDADM and GParted.20:52
daftykinsBlueProtoman0: it's been ages, what's the progress? ;)20:52
BluesKajcfrieler, don't make that assumption , gparted created a gpt table for this laptoip without much fuss20:54
jattTuringi: it works for me on utopic20:54
cfrielerBluesKaj:  But that is a simple underlying volume - mdadm add another layer of complexity. Can anyone confirm that GParted works without issue on mdadm RAID5 volumes?20:56
chrlsdrntBlueProtoman0: did you run crystyal disk20:56
BlueProtoman0The hell?  I can't take a screenshot of CrystalDiskInfo; when I try, the window just doesn't show up.20:56
chrlsdrntuse snippit20:57
ahopHi! I want to install 14.04 LTS on a VirtualBox with only 2GB of disk20:57
ahopIs there a light version?20:57
ahopwithout GUI20:57
chrlsdrntubuntu server?20:57
BlueProtoman0chrlsdrnt: I'm using Gadwin20:57
chrlsdrntstill need more than 2gb20:57
kostkon!mini20:57
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:57
dasjoeahop: get a text based installer like the Minimal CD, don't select a DE when asked20:57
daftykinsahop: why 2GB? server will use 900MB minimum20:58
chrlsdrntif its win 7, search for snippit from the start menu. take ur shot and upload it to the web20:58
ahopDesktop / Server / Minimal CD / are there other versions ? (so I can pick the best for my purpose)20:58
daftykins"snipping tool" is what's it's called on 7 and 820:58
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chrlsdrntyeah thats it20:58
BlueProtoman0Huh, thanks.20:59
daftykinsahop: no20:59
kostkonahop, the various derivatives, xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-gnome etc.20:59
ahophow to choose between Server version and Minimal CD version ?20:59
daftykinsahop: you download a different file...20:59
cfrielerahop: Look at LUbuntu or Mint.20:59
BlueProtoman0imgur.com/LgQBDQd21:00
chrlsdrntboom.21:00
chrlsdrntbad sectors21:00
chrlsdrnttime to shop for a new drive21:00
ahopwhat requirement for server ? 2 GB disk is enough21:01
BlueProtoman0chrlsdnt: Mind elaborating...?21:01
chrlsdrntsectors are the points in which the drive is marking 1's and 0's. As soon as a drive starts producing bad sectors its a sign of an immanent failure21:02
chrlsdrntit could take weeks, it could take days21:02
bekksahop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Server_.28CLI.29_Installation21:02
BlueProtoman0And the bad sector just happens to prevent me from booting into Ubuntu?21:02
chrlsdrntcould be sectors that ubuntu was using21:03
daftykinsBlueProtoman0: that disk is toast. Windows is ok because it's in the good area of the disk (right now) but that disk needs to be replaced so you need to back up your data and get a new one21:03
BlueProtoman0How can I access it?  My home partition is encrypted...21:03
ahopLet's go for 14.04 Server ! :)21:03
chrlsdrntwith a live cd. I believe you can mount it if you have the key21:04
daftykinsBlueProtoman0: you'll need to make up a live disc ASAP.21:04
chrlsdrntdid you save the encryption key21:04
BlueProtoman0I think so...21:04
daftykinsBlueProtoman0: is this drive in a new system, or old?21:05
ggateCan anyone suggest upgrade path for 11.10 install other then re-install ?21:05
BlueProtoman0daftykins: 2011 laptop21:05
daftykinsggate: no, it'd take way too long. backup and clean install21:05
kostkonggate, upgrade to 12.04?21:05
kostkonggate, still supported21:06
BlueProtomandaftykins: Great, now I gotta freaking run to Best Buy21:06
daftykinsBlueProtoman: get yourself a 4GB flash drive at the same time then21:06
chrlsdrntalso I would turn your computer off21:07
daftykinsif you're buying a new hard disk21:07
daftykinslol no that's not a concern21:07
ggate@kostkon , dist-upgrade didnt work21:07
BlueProtomandaftykins, chrlsdrnt: Is there some quick workaround I can do to be able to get onto Linux and access my files?21:07
chrlsdrntwindows will run indexing and updates and just unnecessarily use the disk21:07
chrlsdrntyou can try an fsck21:07
kostkonggate, you got 404 errors?21:07
daftykinsBlueProtoman: yes it involves you buying a flash drive and putting ubuntu on it to make it bootable21:07
theadmin!eolupgrade | ggate21:07
ubottuggate: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades21:07
chrlsdrntlike dafty said, the live disk is the better way21:08
ggate@daftykins , ok .. I think I know what that means .. I will check the link ubottu ave about EOL Upgrades21:08
ggatethanks alll ..21:08
daftykinsggate: wrong highlight21:09
kostkonggate, it was theadmin21:09
ggateoh ok21:09
BlueProtomandaftykins: Shit, then.  Think my disk will last another day?  I'm running some errands tomorrow and I'll get this while I'm out21:10
daftykins!language21:10
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:10
chrlsdrntjust keep the computer off until tomorrow21:10
daftykinsBlueProtoman: depends how much you care about your data i guess :)21:10
daftykinsyeah avoiding use would be wise21:11
daftykinsif you already had a flash drive you could have disconnected it and been using a live session! :D21:11
BlueProtomandaftykins: Man...so how much research will I have to do to get a new drive?  Is finding a new one gonna be a hellish ball of compatibility issues, or can I just get anything?21:11
kostkonBlueProtoman, as long as it's not a sony or apple laptop21:12
BlueProtomankostkon: It's a Samsung QX41121:12
kostkonBlueProtoman, it should be easy21:12
kostkonBlueProtoman, ok21:12
BlueProtomanI need to decrypt the damned Linux partition...21:13
daftykinsBlueProtoman: all the information required is already in your crystaldiskinfo screenshot. it's a 750GB SATA 300 (aka SATA II) hard disk right now. so 1TB+ would be nice, but i don't have a clue what type of computer this is?21:13
daftykinsyes you've said 3 times now - and repeating that before having bootable media is NOT getting you any closer to a solution - so please apply some patience :)21:13
BlueProtomandaftykins: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388310,00.asp21:14
daftykinshmm, that's going to be fun. do you own any external hard disks right now?21:15
chrlsdrntif you dont have it already, make sure u get a small phillips screw driver while your out21:15
chrlsdrntunless its a torx21:15
BlueProtomandaftykins: No, I don't.  Is it "Good" fun or "shoot me" fun?21:15
daftykinsBlueProtoman: well you're going to need a way to connect both the existing disk and the new disk at the same time, to copy data off it.21:16
daftykinsso maybe you could invest in some kind of USB enclosure that allows laptop drives to be plugged in21:16
BlueProtomanMaybe Best Buy has one21:16
daftykinsBlueProtoman: now we know it's a laptop, you want a 2.5" (inch) 1TB+ SATA hard disk21:16
daftykinsyeah, i'm sure they have something appropriate21:17
daftykinsyou probably should have an external disk for backup purposes anyway though21:17
BlueProtomanHow much will that run me?21:17
BlueProtomanMost of my stuff is either on DropBox or GitHub21:17
daftykinswell believe it or not i'm not in the US, so i can't comment there21:17
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BlueProtomanHm...anything else I should know?21:18
daftykinsugh that thing has a non-removable battery21:19
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daftykinsdepends, got any experience conducting surgery on laptops?21:19
BlueProtomanNo.21:19
BlueProtomanAll I know is that I need to turn it off and unplug it before I do so.21:20
daftykinsindeed, normally i'd remove batteries too - but allegedly this one is sealed in. do you have any way of taking a picture of the underside? there aren't any pics on that pcmag page of the underneath21:20
daftykinsi'm kind of leaning toward suggesting you ask them to do the drive swap really, at best buy21:21
BlueProtomanI might have them do that, actually21:21
BlueProtomanHope it's not more expensive than just a new laptop of comparable quality...21:21
daftykinsthen you could reinstall windows + ubuntu yourself and you'd have your external disk ready to mess with to get your data back (if you buy a device to connect it via USB)21:22
daftykinsnah they really shouldn't charge much at all for a drive swap, it's typically the simplest thing21:22
daftykinsdepends if your hard disk is directly behind an accessible panel on the underneath, as they typically are21:22
daftykinshttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682223649621:24
daftykinssomething like that isn't too bad21:24
daftykinswhereas this is a little fancier - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682217834021:25
BlueProtomanI might just buy one at Best Buy.  My winter break only lasts so long, so if I'm gonna replace everything I've gotta do it before the semester starts21:26
webflashingHi guys, quick question. Regarding Video Drivers, which option should I choose? http://i.imgur.com/8mmrfnt.png21:26
webflashingAnd if possible, why?21:26
BlueProtomandaftykins: So what can I do in the future to take better care of my next hard drive?21:27
daftykinsBlueProtoman: yeah just an example. if you don't care about battery life, vibration or noise, go with a WD (Western Digital) 2.5" 7200rpm SATA disk if they sell one of that brand21:27
theadminwebflashing: I recommend using fglrx. It's the proprietary driver that comes directly from AMD and as such it usually performs better.21:27
BlueProtomandaftykins: I care primarily about capacity and speed21:27
daftykinsBlueProtoman: nothing, they all die. you just need a backup device, because you can't just get by with an internal disk21:27
webflashingtheadmin: I appreciate it, thank you21:27
theadminwebflashing: The one that comes with Ubuntu (xserver-xorg-video-ati) is open source but may perform much worse in games and stuff.21:27
daftykinsBlueProtoman: ok, go for one of those hybrids then - they're part SSD part HDD so you get capacity and a speed boost21:27
compdocwebflashing, try the open source, and if it isnt fast enough or has some issue, try the propritory21:28
BlueProtomandaftykins: How big do they tend to be?  My current HDD is 500GB; I get along fine with that, but I don't want anything smaller.21:28
webflashingtheadmin: yeah I was actually gonna try some games as Im new to linux and wanted to see how it performed, so im gonna test it out and see21:28
daftykinsBlueProtoman: screenshot said 750GB :) so as above go for 1TB+21:28
theadminwebflashing: I recommend TF2 as a "benchmark" of sort. It runs well even on oldish machines, so if it lags something's way wrong.21:29
theadminIs also free and fun.21:29
BlueProtomandaftykins: Oops, 750GB, you're right.21:29
BlueProtomandaftykins: Thank you very much for your help.21:29
webflashingyeah I have a lot of hours into tf2. gonna download it first with the open source driver that comes with the installation and if it doesnt run well I may try fglrx21:29
daftykinsBlueProtoman: no problem, see how you get on at the shops :)21:30
daftykinsor 'stores' in americanese21:30
webflashingWell, thank you very much guys!21:30
BlueProtomandaftykins: You da man.21:30
webflashingGonna restart to apply updates21:30
gueriLLaPunKi did a command in putty to list a bunch of stuff, but i cant scroll up far enough to see the whole list. the command is speedtest-cli --list21:31
gueriLLaPunKhow do i scroll up or pause it as it's listing?21:31
daftykinsshift+page up?21:31
theadmingueriLLaPunK: command | less21:32
theadmingueriLLaPunK: That will make the output scrollable.21:32
SchrodingersScatgueriLLaPunK: also consider running the command in something like tmux or screen in the future.  I know screen has a 'copy' mode that lets you scroll up, think it was ctrl-a-esc, then esc cancels copy mode.21:32
EriC^^gueriLLaPunK: or shift+pageup21:32
gueriLLaPunKthjank you guys21:33
gueriLLaPunKthank*21:33
Apachezis it just me or is there no ubuntu updates for the past 2 weeks, the last one seems to be that ntpd fix21:34
gueriLLaPunKi did speedtest-cli --list | less21:34
gueriLLaPunKand now its like stuck? it says (END)21:35
anybroadhi21:35
theadmingueriLLaPunK: Use the up/down arrows to scroll.21:35
gueriLLaPunKand i cant ctrl+q or ctrl+c21:35
anybroadHow can I increase performance for my cifs smb _client_?21:35
zolHow can I make ufw allow outgoing connections from my local network through my router/server where I am running ufw? It seems to block all connections.21:35
theadmingueriLLaPunK: And use q to exit.21:35
anybroadsamba server is windows 721:35
SchrodingersScatgueriLLaPunK: how about just q21:35
gueriLLaPunKlol duh21:35
gueriLLaPunKthanks! haha21:35
bekksanybroad: Are you using a gigabit connection?21:35
anybroadbekks: no, localhost / virtual network21:36
zolI've enabled nat/masquerading, and I have set up a dhcp server, so IPs are being distributed correctly. Only outgoing connections from my server/router seem to work, not from behind it.21:36
anybroadbekks: so I hope to tweak some special stuff which normally makes only sense with physical networks21:36
zolI did a sudo ufw allow out from 10.0.0.0/24, but still no luck. Also sudo ufw default deny incoming.21:37
bekksanybroad: Can you be more specific? Like which speeds do you get, e.g.?21:38
daftykinsanybroad: i've never had to 'tweak' things with samba to get good performance21:39
anybroadSo it vmware workstation with nat.21:41
anybroadWindows 7 64bit is samba server, linux client with cifs+smb is client.21:41
gueriLLaPunKthat speedtest cli is pretty cool21:42
zolHow do I allow trafic to pass by my router that is running ufw?21:52
zolFrom my local network to the WAN?21:52
daftykinszol: got IP forwarding enabled to start with?21:55
xdkoHi everybody21:58
daftykinshi21:58
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zoldaftykins: As far as I can tell, yes22:06
zoldaftykins: How can I verify?22:06
WelshmanHi everyone using this free chat room. I am new to ubuntu. But I do have a question. How do I install all the files from c2esp-27.tar.gz into Ubuntu?22:06
jasper5hi22:06
daftykinszol: so that means you're not sure? :) "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" i believe, should be 1 if it's enabled22:06
daftykinsWelshman: well first up, downloading gzipped tar's is not the best way of installing software in Linux land. are you sure a package isn't available for whatever that is?22:07
zoldaftykins: Oh, yeah, that I have enabled22:07
zoldaftykins: I see "UFW AUDIT" logs comming up for packets coming from my LAN to the router, and vice versa.22:08
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Tutunaktar.gz have into readmi22:08
SchrodingersScat!info printer-driver-c2esp | Welshman22:08
ubottuWelshman: printer-driver-c2esp (source: c2esp): printer driver for Kodak ESP AiO color inkjet Series. In component main, is optional. Version 27-2 (utopic), package size 31 kB, installed size 157 kB22:08
zoldaftykins: However "UFW ALLOW" from router to WAN22:08
daftykins!ufw22:08
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo22:08
daftykinszol: i don't think you've done enough required reading for what you're trying to do. have a look at the above.22:08
SchrodingersScatWelshman: I would try to install that package first, if that fails you /then/ I would start to mess with the tar.gz.  If they didn't provide instructions on the website, then there may be a README within the tar.gz if there are specifics.22:09
zoldaftykins: I have spent 4 hours reading at the moment. I can say that I don't understand the metaphor that is used in the documentation. From who's perspective is allow out/in?22:09
WelshmanAlso, a related question: can I include all the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz with all the files of the iso of Ubuntu to create a new iso using Img Burn?22:10
daftykinszol: from the perspective of your network as an entity. 'out' is to the untrusted (internet)22:10
zoldaftykins: Then "sudo ufw allow out from 10.0.0.0/24" should work, but it doesn't. :/22:11
bubbasauresWelshman, To put in the iso you have to make a custom one, not for the beginner really.22:12
Welshmanbubbasaures: Using Img Burn as I stated?22:12
daftykinszol: that doesn't sound right at all22:13
zoldaftykins: I have two NICs, one configured for WAN, the other for a LAN with a subnet range of 10.0.0.0/24.22:14
daftykinszol: yeah, i already guessed that much from the above22:14
bubbasauresWelshman, not that I have seen, that is a burner right not a custom iso builder is there even a linux download?22:14
zoldaftykins: I'm running dns and dhcp and the LAN clients are receiving their IPs correctly and they can ping the router.22:14
zoldaftykins: nslookup is also looking good from the clients.22:14
zoldaftykins: However, ping doesn't work for google.com for example.22:15
bubbasauresWelshman, Is this a situation for a specific install?22:15
zolOr any other remote IPs.22:15
SchrodingersScatWelshman: there's guides like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but like others have mentioned, it's normally something that only sounds like a good idea, all the same you're free to.22:15
daftykinszol: is NAT in place correctly?22:15
theadminWelshman: You can make a custom Ubuntu image if you are already running Ubuntu.22:15
theadminWelshman: To do so, make use of the Ubuntu Customisation Kit. Is the easiest way really.22:16
theadmin!info uck22:16
ubottuuck (source: uck): Tool to customize official Ubuntu Live CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 145 kB, installed size 441 kB22:16
SchrodingersScatneat22:16
daftykinszol: why are you even using a computer as a router? seems unnecessarily complex ;)22:16
zoldaftykins: Not sure, how can I verify? I have followed the guides I have found; modifying the nat table in before.rules etc.22:16
theadminWelshman: Other than that, I know no reasonable way to customise the ISO.22:16
zoldaftykins: My D-link router is too slow for my 1 Gbit bandwidth connection. :)22:16
daftykinsso get a new one22:16
zoldaftykins: I can't afford one. :(22:17
Welshmanbubbasaures: If I can use Img Burn to create a new iso of Ubuntu (files of c2esp-27.tar.gz + files of Ubuntu) do I include all of the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz?22:17
daftykinszol: ok sorry, you clearly don't know the basics. you need a NAT setup in place to translate from one side to the other, assuming this ubuntu system is directly connected to the internet connection and solely so22:17
daftykinstry #ubuntu-server for more, as this is out of the scope of this channel really.22:17
zoldaftykins: Ok, thanks for trying! :)22:17
theadminWelshman: You can't do that.22:17
theadminWelshman: You can't just modify the image directly22:17
theadminIt will break stuff.22:18
SchrodingersScattheadmin: cool, thanks for showing me uck22:18
kasteHello, I want to run a command after startup but before user login and would like to avoid writing a startup file for it22:19
theadminSchrodingersScat: No problem. It's a very nice tool if you know how to use it22:19
theadminkaste: Just put it in /etc/rc.local before the "exit 0" line22:19
kasteis @reboot in crontab the right approach or do I need to go with /etc/local22:19
kastes/local/rc.local/22:19
kasteok22:19
Welshmantheadmin: Why can't I create a new iso of Ubuntu which includes some or all the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz using Img Burn? It would make life much easier rather than 'installing' files separately. Please explain why not.22:21
bubbasauresWelshman, Not sure how it's done, tried to make a custom iso years ago and found it to be problematic is all, installing a tar in the install if the dependencies are there is a no biggie.22:21
bubbasauresWelshman, You can make any iso you want, if you have the skills. ;)22:22
Ben64Welshman: your question doesn't make any sense22:22
SchrodingersScatWelshman: you have to work within how the livecd works.22:22
theadminWelshman: Because, well, you won't see the contents of the ISO once you boot. You will see the root filesystem that's a compressed squashfs file on the ISO.22:23
daftykinsimgburn isn't even capable of manipulating ISOs22:23
dannymichelif options to a linux command include -a -b -c, i sometimes see them combined. -av not sure why that makes sense for rsync http://ss64.com/bash/rsync_options.html http://mike-hostetler.com/blog/2007/12/08/rsync-non-standard-ssh-port/22:23
Welshmanbubbasaures: Thanks for the info: "Not sure how it's done, tried to make a custom iso years ago and found it to be problematic is all, installing a tar in the install if the dependencies are there is a no biggie".22:23
daftykinswhy are you repasting what's above 0o22:23
adunosinehi any one here is a os developper ??22:23
wadHey guys. So I've got a box full of digital video tapes, and my old digital camcorder. It connects to a computer with firewire. If I buy a firewire PCI adapter, what are the odds that it will actually let me get my videos off those tapes?22:23
bubbasauresadunosine, How is this related to ubuntu?22:24
Ben64wad: if the firewire card works, pretty likely22:24
wadOkay, cool.22:24
adunosinebubbasaures: i don't understand you ?22:25
SchrodingersScat!ot | adunosine22:25
* wad goes to find a PCI firewire card then.22:25
ubottuadunosine: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:25
bubbasauresadunosine, This is ubuntu support, not really seeming related to your question is all.22:25
adunosinebubbasaures: ah ok im sorry !22:25
adunosineit's my first time22:26
imnicholHey, I've got a question about home directory encryption:22:26
bubbasaures!alis | adunosine, Cool, there is a bot search for channels22:26
ubottuadunosine, Cool, there is a bot search for channels: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*22:26
nimbioticsHello everyone. Which scripts do I have to look into in order to have apache NOT start automatically? TIA!22:27
WelshmanThanks to those who answered my question. I am now leaving the room. So all the best for 2015 + bye for now.22:27
theadminnimbiotics: Assuming Apache uses startup, check /etc/init/apache2.conf22:27
theadminErr...22:27
theadminUpstart.22:27
imnicholI've got / on one HDD and /home/ on another.  If I pull the drive with /home/ on it out of my computer and reinstall Ubuntu on /, can I then plug in /home and use my user password to decrypt it?22:27
theadminnimbiotics: To have it start manually, just put "manual" there instead of "start on [whatever]"22:27
fam_Is it possible to open an onscreen keyboard without access to a keyboard?22:28
bubbasauresimnichol, Back it all up no matter what is your best insurance.22:28
fam_using a surface pro 322:28
imnicholbubbasaures, yeah I'm aware.  I'm asking whether it's *possible*22:29
theadminfam_: System Settings -> Universal Access -> Typing -> enable on-screen keyboard.22:29
fam_I did that22:29
fam_nothing happened22:29
theadminHuh that's weird.22:29
nimbioticstheadmin: Thanks for your answer. I'm looking at my apache2.conf and there is no "start on [whatever]" line ... Where else should I look?22:30
bubbasauresimnichol, Yeah, we just never know if it's the can I do this without a backup thinking process, or their all backed up and now executing the process.22:30
tonik"Caja cannot handle "sftp" locations"?!!  Well, FUCK YOU22:30
imnicholhahah yeah bubbasaures that's good policy ;)22:30
theadminnimbiotics: Can you paste the contents of the file to http://hastebin.com ?22:30
theadmintonik: Use ssh://22:30
theadmintonik: I think.22:30
bubbasaures!language | tonik22:30
ubottutonik: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList22:31
toniktheadmin, that worked, thanks22:31
nimbioticstheadmin: http://hastebin.com/udutekaqif.vhdl22:32
bennypr0faneHi, I keep getting a problem alert from Ubuntu when starting my server, but it won't tell me what the problem is - just "do you wanna report it?" or "cancel". How can I find out what's wrong?22:32
theadminnimbiotics: That's not the right file.22:32
theadminnimbiotics: It should be under /etc/init/22:32
nimbioticstheadmin: I cannot find any file related to apache at /etc/init/22:34
theadminOh, hm.22:34
Ben64init.d22:35
nimbioticsWhy is user ratsbe bullying in me private about my issue??22:37
alejandro_alguien de cuba22:37
alejandro_??22:37
Ben64nimbiotics: you can join #ubuntu-ops and bring that to their attention22:37
mellamokbi am rdp'ing into a computer with a virtualbox ubuntu install. it is really slow. is there a way i can ssh directly into the guest machine when only port 3389 is open?22:37
alejandro_someone of cuba22:37
alejandro_??22:37
nimbioticsBen64: will do, Thanks!22:38
nimbioticsALEJANDRO: que necesitas??22:39
fam_I figured it out, you have to log out before it shows up22:44
fam_the on screen keyboard, that is22:44
fam_thanks for the help theadmin22:45
jimmy51v10i left myself logged in to IRC at work.  how can i boot myself so i can register from here?22:45
xangua!ghost | jimmy51v1022:46
ubottujimmy51v10: If you own an IRC nick that is currently being used, you can make it change nicks by typing: /msg nickserv release <nick> <password> | If you have a dead (ghost) connection, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password> | further help in #freenode22:46
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jimmy51v10ok.  seems to have kicked it.  now it says nick is unavaialble.22:47
jimmy51v10maybe i'll wait a bit22:47
daftykinsjoin #freenode it's their deal, not the OS you run ;)22:48
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lahwranikonia, collizion: it *was* a misconfiguration on my part. somehow, this change allowed traceroute -6 (without -I) to work: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/38d5ef363403e9b4c608/revisions22:51
lahwranstill working on figuring out why22:51
nimbioticsFYI: In order to configure Apache web server not to start at boot you can use this command: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove22:52
capsulhow can i start my_script.bash like : $my_script ? everywhere ? because , for the moment , i need to go in repository shell and write $bash my_script.bash22:53
capsulhave u got a solution ? for run it as skype,irssi,xchat....22:53
ratsbecapsul: use linphone22:54
bekksName your script like "myscript" and run "bash myscript".22:54
daftykinsdoes your script have a shebang?22:54
capsulbekks , its only for example , not problem with name of script :p22:54
bekkscapsul: It is the solution. ;)22:55
capsulthank(s ratsbe  , i will look for this22:55
capsulbekks:  i need to go in nice directory , for put bash myscript22:55
ratsbecapsul: use the ppa version if it crashes alot22:55
capsuli want start him everywhere22:55
capsulratsbe: ok :)22:56
bekkscapsul: Then put it in a directory in $PATH22:56
capsulminute , i will go check linphone , if it's my solution ^^22:56
ratsbecapsul: I thought u were looking for a communication program22:57
capsulratsbe: totaly not for linphone -__-22:57
daftykinsratsbe: it's usually wise to read the questions22:57
ratsbeBlink22:58
capsulôÔ22:58
capsulwhen i told skype,irssi,xchat22:58
capsuljust example of script which can start everywhere22:58
capsuljust if u call it22:58
capsulwithout way or $bash22:59
bekkscapsul: Then put it in a directory in $PATH22:59
capsulhmm22:59
ratsbeWhy does their always need to be a forum spell checking creep or a irc creeper22:59
returnthisI am looking for some guidance as to the right thing to look for. I would like a network daemon that maintains a permanent connection for a client that loses network a lot.   client -> (magic?) -- permanent --> daemon22:59
capsuli will go check $man path22:59
capsul:)22:59
ratsbeWhy does their always need to be a forum spell checking creep or a irc creeper daftykins23:00
daftykins!ot | rays23:00
ubotturays: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:00
daftykinsoops.23:00
capsulratsbe: keep sarcasm and take happy new year in ur heart23:00
daftykinsratsbe: see the above.23:00
* capsul smile :)23:00
capsul$man path = No manual entry for path23:01
capsul:'(23:01
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bekkscapsul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables23:02
capsulgoogle , my false friend23:02
capsulthx you bekks ;D23:02
capsulbekks: if i put myscript in usr/bin/23:04
capsulthat work if i call him like $myscript23:04
capsulor i need to make action with "PATH"23:04
bekkscapsul: You dont need to do anything to $PATH, when putting a script into a directory already contained in $PATH23:05
capsul:)23:05
capsullot of love23:05
capsullot of luck23:05
capsullot of healt23:05
capsulfor you bekks23:05
capsuland your 2015 year23:05
capsul:)23:05
bekkscapsul: you're welcome :)23:05
capsul;)23:05
capsulsee you23:06
* capsul go out23:06
* capsul will write /quit23:06
capsul-__-23:06
* capsul smile :)23:06
johnb003Hi I setup my server to share my internet connection originally with just a wan, and now I have added a new wired nic, and I'm not sure how I need to change my dhcp server to make it work on the br023:07
bekksjohnb003: DHCP does not work on a bridge.23:07
johnb003oh23:08
johnb003so each interface needs it's own dhcp?23:08
bekksjohnb003: Yes. Most likely, you need to setup a router, not a bridge.23:08
johnb003I see23:10
johnb003to be clear I have eth0 to connect with the WAN, wlan0 which i used to have my dhcp run on, and would masquerade to the wan, and now I also have eth1, which I'd like to have dhcp, and allow connections on the wired nic and wifi to see each other23:11
bekksjohnb003: No.23:11
bekksjohnb003: You setup a router between eth0, wlan0 and eth1.23:11
johnb003how do I do that?23:12
daftykinsjohnb003: should be NAT you set up, not bridging. that won't work23:12
bekks!router23:12
bekksjohnb003: You could set it up like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router23:13
johnb003daftykins: Ok, yeah I mean it was nat masquerading between wlan0 and eth0, just trying to see how to make eth1 and wlan0 see each other and both be able to nat over the eth023:13
johnb003bekks: I tried following this guide but for the wifi it doesn't allow me to set master via this network interfaces. I had to use hostapd23:13
bekksjohnb003: That may happen, yes. But thats still a router then.23:14
johnb003ok23:14
johnb003maybe i desceribed it wrong...23:14
johnb003but that setup uses a bridge too23:15
johnb003# Set up the internal wired/wireless network bridge23:15
darkdrgn2k3hi23:17
darkdrgn2k3ok this is driving me nutz.. Using Nvidia binary(319) and it wrk sgreat23:17
darkdrgn2k3untill i do somethign liek run CRHOME.. and then i MAY get a cool light show on the screen, and this in my dmesg23:17
darkdrgn2k3http://pastebin.com/bymCKauR23:17
darkdrgn2k3any ideas?23:17
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designbybeckLinux Wacom question... Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04, my Wacom 4 tablet isn't plug and play anymore. I have to restart my computer everytime. Has anyone seen anything like that?23:25
ejuandesignbybeck, i would run dmesg after you plug it in to see if its loading the driver for the tablet23:26
designbybeckjust type dmesg in the terminal ejuan ?23:26
ejuanyeah23:26
ejuanor lsusb23:26
designbybeckI looks like it sees it ejuan23:27
thequietonealright, I've been having issues with wlan not working23:28
thequietoneethernet works fine though, hence how I'm online now23:28
thequietonecan anyone help me get wlan functioning again? this is soon to be a major production machine23:29
daftykinsthequietone: identify what the wireless device is first, "lspci" if it's an internal card, or "lsusb" if it's USB23:29
designbybeckejuan, http://www.pasteall.org/5596523:29
thequietonedaftykins: done that already, it's a Realtek RTL8188ee23:30
daftykinsare you the one from the other day?23:30
daftykinsi think that should work out of the box on 14.04 and 14.1023:30
thequietoneprobably. tested the live DVD and it was working, and I haven't made any serious internal changes23:30
ejuandesignbybeck, check in the settings menu under mouse and touchpad23:31
thequietoneI didn't report back because my sleeping pill had taken hold of me :/23:31
ejuansee if it shows up there23:31
designbybeckyep it shows up there23:31
designbybeckand if i unplug it it goes away there ejuan23:31
daftykinsthequietone: hmm, i would run a "lsmod | grep 802" on both the live session and the install and compare them to see what drivers are loaded23:32
thequietonedaftykins, it seems like the drivers are loaded appropriately on install23:34
ejuandesignbybeck, does the tablet  work when you select and  enable it?23:34
designbybeckno23:34
ejuanhmm23:34
tonikis there a way to disable the X RandR extension, or (even better) make a program think it is not present?23:34
designbybeckwhen i move the pen over the tablet it the mouse doesn't move23:34
designbybeckbut when i restart with it plugged in, then  Ican use us it23:34
designbybeckuse it23:34
daftykinsthequietone: yes and the command above will let us see if a different driver is loaded in the install, compared with the live session.23:35
ejuandesignbybeck,  check the xorg logs do   tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log in the terminal23:37
designbybeckejuan, http://www.pasteall.org/5596623:38
designbybeckejuan, I show to be running 1920x1080(16:9)23:39
elexHi, after a fresh installation of 14.04.1 I got stuck on "Switching to clocksource tsc" The device worked well on an older Version. Any Ideas or hints?23:39
retroisprestowhat's the command to change the ownership of a volume and all of it's sub directories from root, to steven23:41
nonplussedchown -R steven /directory/name/  (i think)23:43
retroisprestoyay thanks nonplussed !23:44
retroisprestoi just had to add the sudo infront of the command23:44
nonplussedthanks to you.  I'm just glad someone is actually making some noise in here.23:44
retroisprestohow come when i put a space before a command executed with sudo or as root, it keeps the history?23:47
nonplussednot sure what you mean.  most terminals do keep a history, but the history will be user specific so if you are root you will see the history or the root user's commands23:48
retroisprestowhen entering a non elevated privelage command with a space infront, it doesn't write it to .bash_history23:48
bekksThe shells keep a history.23:48
thequietonehttp://imgur.com/lbOUsIw I feel like I should point this out, on wlan I get this odd network behavior even when nothing else is using the internet. (Firefox and XChat aren't doing anything.23:49
nonplussedthanks23:49
retroisprestothequietone: maybe the dash preloading online results?23:50
ejuandesignbybeck, maybe do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom-lts-trusty23:51
designbybeckHHmmm, what might that do ejuan ?23:51
designbybeckGuess I'll still have to reboot after that ejuan ?23:52
ejuanit installs the - X.Org X server Wacom input driver23:52
retroisprestodesignbybeck: install wacom ...23:52
retroispresto^^^^23:52
designbybeckeven though it should have been there by default?23:53
thequietoneretroispresto: it doesn't do that on ethernet, I'm suspecting something odd in software23:53
nonplussedgotta go.  have a good day everyone.23:54
irishdoes anyone know why audio doesn't work in simplescreenrecorder under Ubuntu but works under Arch23:56
retroisprestoirish: is audio muted?23:57
irishnope all the settings are the same from each distro23:58
irishi've fooled around with this for an hour23:58
biffbaxterretroispresto: add the HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth to the .bashrc file for root its not there by default and when you elevate privs even with a space it will show in history23:58

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