[00:01] <TheTopBloke> I guess the new way of doing things made me start thinking again about su vs sudo and other fun security related stuff.
[00:32] <Jabo> what compatible software is most similar to creo/pro engineer?
[00:32] <Jabo> FreeCAD?
[00:34] <fakam> Everytime i start ubuntu I get 5 unexpected errors and the errors are all random..    Also the laptop wont come out of suspend mode.. Anyone help pls?
[00:34] <blackangelpr> guys i have a friend whos ubuntu 14.04 xchat icon dissapear on the left bar when he minimize it and under preference -> Chatting -> alerts he have check mark enable system tray icon and also libappindicator1 its up to date any suggestions?
[00:36] <daftykins> blackangelpr: try hexchat, xchat is ancient
[00:37] <blackangelpr> daftykins, will take it to consideration thank you
[00:37] <daftykins> can also disable minimise to tray, that'd be the obvious one
[00:37] <blackangelpr> roger
[00:37] <blackangelpr> thanks
[00:40] <_war10ck_> blackangelpr: you can also take a peek at irssi
[00:40] <blackangelpr> thanks _war10ck_
[00:40] <Platypus-Man> or weechat, better defaults and easier to configure imo
[00:48] <willwh_> irssi ftw
[00:49] <willwh_> /ctcp willwh version ;x
[00:49] <Platypus-Man> I thought that too, spent a long time configuring, then when I reinstalled Ubuntu last time, I decided to try weechat for fun, and ended up liking it much better..
[00:50] <Platypus-Man> ah well, I'm just glad I got away from that awful mIRC
[00:51] <Svetlana> Platypus-Man: if you miss its scripting, kvirc has something similar
[00:53] <Platypus-Man> meh, I missed the GUI the first week, but that's about it... I prefer to have it in a terminal now
[00:57] <Platypus-Man> my locale shows that language= and lc_all= are unset, the rest of the entries have *UTF-8, is this normal?
[00:58] <wad> Hi, guys. I've gathered together my entire digital collection of family photos and videos. Got them all on a (backed-up!) USB hard drive. I need to go through them all, remove dupes, and sort them into folders by year and month, mostly. What's a good tool to let me drag-and-drop for this sort of sorting out?
[00:59]  * wad <------ keyboard jockey, more familiar with a command prompt than a GUI. But this is no job for a command prompt!
[00:59] <SchrodingersScat> why is it no job for command prompt? are you sure?
[01:00] <SchrodingersScat> there's at least 2 for deduping files, then probably some I haven't heard about.
[01:00] <wad> SchrodingersScat, the deduping I'm not too concerned about. Actually, the location of some copies of some duped files might give me context about where to put them. I need to be able to select files and move them into folders.
[01:00] <wad> Visually!
[01:02] <AndChat|361524> r00tX: e
[01:10] <chocho> helo
[01:16] <adante> collizion: thanks (late reply from yesterday)
[01:18] <JoshH99> Anyone know of a way to get nginx to 403 before proxying to another service?
[01:21] <leeyaa> hello
[01:21] <leeyaa> what does the "virtual" mean after kernel name ?
[01:27] <RNeville> Any ideas why I can't play a DVD in my DVD drive using VLC under Ubuntu 14.04? I thought VLC played "everything".
[01:28] <Jordan_U> !dvd | RNeville
[01:29] <Joe_knock> Does anybody know how to copy a file from a remote server to local while being SSHed into the remote server??
[01:30] <RNeville> ubottu: I thought when I choose to install proprietary repositories on the install of Ubuntu 14.04 this would take care of this problem.
[01:31] <wafflej0ck> Joe_knock, check out scp
[01:31] <invertible> Joe_knock, use scp
[01:31] <Joe_knock> wafflej0ck, invertible: I am getting a Publickey error when running scp from the local machine. Can i use scp while i am in the remote machine?
[01:32] <invertible> Joe_knock, I usually use it from the local machine, so I have the public key on the server and private on mine
[01:32] <wafflej0ck> Joe_knock, running scp should be basically just like running SSH in terms of what you supply except instead of a destination host you specify the source path (can be remote or local) and destination path (can be remote or local)
[01:33] <wafflej0ck> same as invertible here
[01:33] <invertible> I guess you have to set it up inreverse if you want to do it the other way round
[01:33] <Joe_knock> So I need to change my public key then.
[01:33] <invertible> No
[01:33] <ObrienDave> RNeville, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:33] <invertible> You need a new key pair
[01:33] <wafflej0ck> you can scp in both directions so long as the public key is on the server and your private key is on the client machine (where you run the command from)
[01:34] <Joe_knock> invertible: "Permission denied (publickey)."
[01:34] <RNeville> ObrienDave: thx
[01:34] <NoOova_> Hello all!
[01:34] <wafflej0ck> Joe_knock, http://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php
[01:34] <invertible> Put the public on your local machine and the private on the server
[01:34] <NoOova_> I could not mount sdhc sd card
[01:34] <NoOova_> error is: error -110 sending stop command, original cmd response 0x900, card status 0x800b00
[01:34] <invertible> Oh and ssh server on our local I guess
[01:35] <wafflej0ck> Joe_knock, you should be running scp from within the local machine shell (not SSHed in)
[01:36] <Joe_knock> wafflej0ck: I understand that. I was just hoping that there might be a reverse way of taking a file from remote to local, but that is dangerous security-wise
[01:36] <wafflej0ck> Joe_knock, the same way you would run SSH to connect you can instead run scp and it will pick up your private key if you didn't rename it otherwise will need to use -i identity_file flag same as with ssh
[01:36] <invertible> wafflej0ck, I mean if he wants to scp into his local machine he needs to be running ssh server on it
[01:37] <invertible> And open port 22
[01:38] <wafflej0ck> yeah sorry this is a confusing conversation.... we should start calling them machine A and machine B probably so we aren't mixing up what is the "server" vs the "client" but you should be able to copy in both directions with scp so long as you have permissions on the remote account to read/write from the locations you specify
[01:42] <invertible> wafflej0ck, well I don't know if that would work. I thought scp opens a new ssh connection to the local, in which case the local would need to be set up to accept the connection.
[01:43] <Giwrgaras> hi, do you know how do i change the comma in ubuntu? i want to switch my decimal from comma to dot.
[01:43] <invertible> meaning ssh server to run and a key pair for that connection to be set up.
[01:43] <jon_92> how can i get help for linux mint?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> !mint | jon_92
[01:45] <Svetlana> ask at their support channel
[01:45] <Svetlana> i lag 17s :(
[01:47] <wafflej0ck> invertible, well I'm saying lets say machine A has the data on it we want to get, if machine B wants to connect to machine A, and machine A has the public key part of the pair from machine B's private key, inside the authorized_keys on machine A in some users folder, then using SCP with that user from machine B will let you copy things to machine B from machine A (based on remote user account being used) and will let you copy fr
[01:47] <wafflej0ck> om machine A to machine B assuming you run the scp command from machine B
[01:47] <jgcampbel> does anyone konw of a web based time tracking solution that is open source (free) that uses GPS and payrole
[01:47] <wafflej0ck> also assume here machine A is running SSHd
[01:48] <SchrodingersScat> jgcampbel: no, as soon as they add gps to it they close it down, from what I've seen.  You can use the apps for self-reporting, maybe make them take a picture of them doing work if you don't trust them :P
[01:49] <SchrodingersScat> jgcampbel: otherwise, if you find one, let me know.  Really we should both be donating to a project that hasn't strayed from the path yet, until they get gps support on the phone app.
[01:50] <chris349> Is it possible to disable the mouse cursor?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> RNeville: Proprietary is one thing, illegal to distribute in the U.S. because of silly laws is another.
[01:50] <nidal> Hello everyone
[01:50] <nidal> I need some help with Ubuntu
[01:51] <nidal> I have problem with hibernate mode
[01:51] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | nidal
[01:51] <RNeville> Jordan_U: are the codec for DVD playback illegal to download without permission in the US- I know we have some draconian laws through brought about by the Digital Millennium Act.
[01:52] <nidal> The computer comes out of sleep mode alone
[01:52] <nidal> I'm using Ubuntu 14.10, i don't know what to do...
[01:53] <wafflej0ck> invertible, shoot... think I may have said the from A to B twice there meant you can do it bidirectionally from the machine with the private key
[01:53] <socialpuzzle> hello
[01:53] <Jordan_U> RNeville: The codec for mpeg2 is distributed provided you've payed the relevant fees, but the libdvdcss that breaks the copy protection is a "circumvention tool" and is thus always illegal.
[01:53] <invertible> Joe_knock, wafflej0ck In your scenarios (scp from remote to local) the local acts like the server. Problem: so far only the remote server has the public key of the local in its authorized keys but the local does not have an authorized key for the remote server. I think that needs to be set up, i.e. generate a key pair as if the local is the server. Then run sshd on the local, and open port 22 to accept connections.
[01:54] <RNeville> Jordan_U: thx, so much
[01:54] <Jordan_U> RNeville: You're welcome.
[01:54] <invertible> Joe_knock, wafflej0ck then you should be able to scp from the remote to the local machine
[01:54] <XxionxX> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 successfully on a laptop and everything but the touchpad works fantastically. The mouse can be moved around the screen but it won't register the button presses. I have tried plugging in a usb mouse and those buttons presses work just fine. I have tried googling my issue but I seem to be missing something. The laptop is an HP 11-d010wm.
[01:54] <nidal> I really want to stay on Ubuntu, but it's problem after anoter and no one to help... :/
[01:55] <XxionxX> Is there any way to get some more info so I can search the issue better?
[01:55] <wafflej0ck> invertible, pretty sure you only need the public key on the side running SSHd and can transfer to/from it regardless though don't think you need to remote into the server then scp back to the client, instead can just scp data from the server to the client machine scp your_username@remotehost.edu:foobar.txt /some/local/directory
[01:56] <XxionxX> I am comfortable with command line so if someone had some handy commands to get info that would be awesome
[01:56] <wafflej0ck> Joe_knock, invertible, I only do this like once every 6 months or something mostly rely on Jenkins Continuous Integration lately and git for things to get transferred out
[01:57] <XxionxX> nidal: what do you mean by 'sleep mode alone'?
[01:57] <nidal> XxionxX, the computer left the sleep mode...
[01:57] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, you may want to look into xinput though I haven't heard of the buttons being disabled like that it does let you toggle properties of the devices
[01:58] <nidal> XxionxX, i'm bad in english so please try to understand what i mean
[01:58] <invertible> Joe_knock, wafflej0ck Maybe you are right wafflej0ck , I haven't tested it. But from my understanding that would be a possible explanation for the problem that occured. So it's up to the person who wants to scp from remote to local to test it.
[01:58] <Squabbler> is there a common reason for bluetooth to suddenly stop working altogether?
[01:58] <Jordan_U> XxionxX: If you run xev and click on the window that's created, are any events emitted to stdout at all?
[01:58] <Squabbler> 14.04
[01:59] <XxionxX> Jordan_U: one sec
[02:00] <wafflej0ck> nidal, you mean it woke itself up? also just for your information 14.04 is the LTS release which means it is more stable and will be supported for longer you should use it instead of 14.10 for a more stable system
[02:00] <XxionxX> Jordan_U: yeah but now I can't quit that process XD
[02:01] <nidal> wafflej0ck, i'm on Ubuntu 14.10
[02:01] <XxionxX> ctrl-c isn't working lol
[02:01] <XxionxX> got it
[02:02] <XxionxX> Ohh exciting, now the USB mouse is showing the same behavior as the touchpad
[02:02] <nidal> wafflej0ck, Ubuntu woke up itself, and after this sometimes the keybord/mouse didn't work, and i can't launch Windows...
[02:02] <nidal> A lot of problems...
[02:02] <wafflej0ck> nidal, right, saying you should use 14.04, the .10 versions (october releases) typically have more breaking changes in them and every two years (10.04, 12.04, 14.04) are LTS releases that are supported for longer (don't need to upgrade as often to get security fixes)
[02:02] <RNeville> I have too many toys to work on; trying to set up Eye-Fi on a windows box - no Linux support, :((
[02:02] <Jordan_U> XxionxX: What did it output when you clicked? (Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for more than one line of output).
[02:03] <XxionxX> That might be difficult to do considering I don't have a mouse to copy the output with...
[02:03] <nidal> wafflej0ck, so you suggest to downgrade to 14.04 ?
[02:03] <invertible> Joe_knock, I think you need to treat the scp from remote to local as a new ssh connection, wafflej0ck thinks you don't. You can test what works and what not.
[02:03] <wafflej0ck> nidal, should take your issues one at a time, the sleep problems are a matter of convenience and speed but not critical, should probably focus on fixing your Windows boot if you plan to still use it, but yeah would suggest sticking with 14.04 unless you have a good reason to go 14.10 (testing maybe)
[02:04] <nidal> wafflej0ck,  i have this problem since i have Ubuntu 13.04... always the some problem i don't understand.. :s
[02:06] <wafflej0ck> nidal, yeah sometimes it's hardware problems, personally I bough a System76 machine when I decided I wanted to make the switch to Ubuntu as my daily driver so I could get support from them and know the hardware was tested with Ubuntu it's been a good experience buying from them but it is pricey compared to rolling the dice :), depends on how much you need a stable system though, it's worth it for my work laptop
[02:06] <wafflej0ck> bought*
[02:06] <Joe_knock> invertible: I somehow miraculously got a new public key running on the remote server. Login to root worked and I scped the necessary data. Thank you wafflej0ck and invertible
[02:06] <wafflej0ck> np
[02:08] <nidal> wafflej0ck, so it's better to uninstall Ubuntu and go on another linux system ?
[02:08] <Yon> Hi, I did a dual install of 14.04 over a preinstallation of win 7. I followed the directions here http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/30/dual-boot-ubuntu-14-04-and-windows-7-on-a-pc-with-uefi-firmware/   Windows shows as an option in the grub menu but when selected, the screen blinks and reverts to ubuntu...the ntfs drives with windows are visable in gparted and weirdly the drive in the side panel of ubuntu has the windows files on it. Anywa
[02:09] <daftykins> Yon: that's just showing Ubuntu can see the partitions, nothing a big deal about that at all
[02:09] <wafflej0ck> nidal, thing is since lots of hardware drivers and things are proprietary (for competitive advantage or desire to just not support open sourcing a project etc.) sometimes it's just some faulty driver... there is not going to be a major difference insofar as driver/hardware support is concerned for other distros so Ubuntu is as good as any (better than most with regard to widespread adoption/testing) but saying having hardware th
[02:09] <wafflej0ck> at is tested for use with Linux helps significantly (saw Dell is selling an XPS one with Ubuntu again but also looks a little pricey)
[02:10] <nidal> Okey i'll try Debian then...
[02:11] <Yon> daftykins: That's what i hoped but i'm new to this and was hoping someone could direct me in how to fix windows boot?
[02:12] <daftykins> Yon: so, did you install windows 7 in EFI mode to begin with?
[02:13] <daftykins> you'd know because you would've had to place the EFI boot image in the correct folder to even get 7 booted
[02:14] <wafflej0ck> nidal, gotta kinda of think of it like if you bought a Mac then ran Windows on it and it didn't work perfectly or try running OS X on non-apple hardware and see how difficult it is to find kexts (kernel extensions, basically drivers on OS X) for your hardware, if you buy a piece of hardware tested with the software they ship it with you'll have a much better overall experience with the system rather than the experience you're cu
[02:14] <wafflej0ck> rrently having... I realize buy new hardware isn't always a viable option but good to keep your head straight about accepting some difficulties
[02:14] <Yon> daftykins:   it was preinstalled on the machine but in gparted nothing shows efi..the windows drives are shown only as ntfs..?
[02:15] <daftykins> Yon: what are you booted into right now?
[02:15] <Yon> daftykins: ubuntu...can't get windows to boot
[02:16] <nidal> wafflej0ck, i'll try Debian and i see if i have the same issues
[02:16] <daftykins> Yon: alright, i'm going to link you to a page which explains the difference between EFI and legacy booting Ubuntu, see if you can work out which it was you did
[02:16] <daftykins> !uefi | Yon
[02:16] <nidal> wafflej0ck, i have problems with Ubuntu since the day when i know it...
[02:16] <XxionxX> Jordan_U: So I restarted in hopes that the usb mouse would allow me to copy/paste the output and now when I run 'xev' there is no output except for when I move the mouse pointer.
[02:16] <XxionxX> *restarted the computer
[02:17] <Yon> daftykins: cheers!
[02:17] <XxionxX> So I click the box and there is no output at all :/
[02:17] <daftykins> Yon: it'd also be handy for you to run the terminal program and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and share the link it creates here
[02:18] <wafflej0ck> nidal, sure it's worth a shot just saying I wouldn't have super high hopes, you are typically better off using dmesg or /var/log to investigate the problem and figure it out rather than installing other distros but maybe you'll get lucky
[02:19] <nidal> wafflej0ck, i hope so thanks anyway
[02:19] <wafflej0ck> nidal, np good luck
[02:21] <nova-D> okay, so I'm using a Toshiba Satellite laptop with the latest Utopic, and since yesterday I haven't been able to connect to the internet.
[02:21] <daftykins> wireless or wired?
[02:21] <nova-D> Wireless, adapter is a Realtek RTL8188ee
[02:21] <daftykins> did you install any updates prior to it ceasing to work?
[02:21] <daftykins> such as a new kernel
[02:22] <nova-D> the only thing I installed prior was Spotify, and uninstalling that made no difference
[02:22] <Yon> daftykins: cool... http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662858/
[02:22] <Parallaxx> can anyone help me... i made a linux mint usb and want to reset the persistant image ,so it's like new.. how do i do that
[02:23] <daftykins> !mint | Parallaxx
[02:23] <Parallaxx> oops sorry
[02:23] <daftykins> Parallaxx: regardless of it being similar we cannot help anything but ubuntu
[02:23] <nova-D> nothing I connect to works, not even connecting to my router's settings
[02:23] <daftykins> nova-D: so what happens, does the tray icon show any networks?
[02:23] <nova-D> tray icon shows all nearby networks, and claims to have connected to my home wifi
[02:24] <daftykins> so you have signal strength bars?
[02:24] <nova-D> yes
[02:24] <daftykins> are you online from another computer right now?
[02:24] <drinkoo> hi everyone
[02:24] <nova-D> I dual boot Windows 7, so that's what I'm using now. I've got another computer, but I don't know if it's hooked up totally
[02:25] <drinkoo> do you know how to delete Skype chat history? I already deleted the .Skype directory but it keeps coming back... seems that it is not locally stored.
[02:25] <nova-D> no, other computer unavailabl
[02:25] <nova-D> unavailable*
[02:25] <daftykins> Yon: yeah that looks like a legacy Windows install, ok i went the wrong route there then. You might want to try out boot-repair
[02:26] <daftykins> !boot-repair
[02:26] <daftykins> oh that's not a thing. damn
[02:26] <wafflej0ck> no hyphen maybe daftykins
[02:26] <daftykins> Yon: here anywho https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:26] <drinkoo> someone to help me? I need to clear skype chat history but it keeps coming back even after deleting the .Skype directory
[02:26] <daftykins> !patience | drinkoo
[02:27] <daftykins> drinkoo: skype is by Microsoft, not really supported here
[02:27] <alex_______> what is the operating system using on bloody monday drama?
[02:27] <drinkoo> yeah but I have it installed on my ubuntu box
[02:27] <wafflej0ck> drinkoo, https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10893/how-do-i-delete-my-chat-history-in-skype-for-mac-os-x <--- they keep it in the cloud
[02:27] <daftykins> alex_______: on what? maybe go ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:27] <daftykins> drinkoo: that's nice.
[02:28] <drinkoo> lol motherfuckers (skype)
[02:28] <SchrodingersScat> !language | drinkoo
[02:28] <wafflej0ck> drinkoo, anything you can install on ubuntu isn't necessarily supported or related to ubuntu, can we get the source code? if not look to MS... also watch the language
[02:28] <daftykins> nova-D: i'd be interested to see a "ip a" command output when you're booted into ubuntu, you could save the output to a text file on a flash drive to get it online at http://paste.ubuntu.com perhaps
[02:29] <nova-D> I can access my Windows partition from within Ubuntu, that's how I've been moving and sharing things between the two installs
[02:29] <XxionxX> wafflej0ck: I tried using 'xinput test mydeviceidhere' and it output all my touchpad movements but not button presses
[02:29] <daftykins> nova-D: that's true, silly me :)
[02:29] <XxionxX> Is there a way to map those buttons?
[02:30] <nova-D> Be back in about 5-10 minutes
[02:30] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, sorry not sure I've just used xinput myself for tweaking my mousepad settings for palm detection and some other tweaks, not really sure about mapping the buttons though... I've used xbindkeys for mapping keyboard shortcuts but yeah nothing with xinput sorry
[02:31] <XxionxX> wafflej0ck: This is hardest thing I've ever had to do in linux @_@
[02:31] <XxionxX> I know what I want but my google fu is not helping
[02:31] <jmoiron> i've been reading about 802.11ac support for pcie cards and i've found a few that don't appear to have working drivers;  does anyone have any suggestions for a supported card?
[02:31] <Yon> daftykins: thanks..I was concerned that according to the dual boot installation instructions on that link i posted earlier, the ubuntu boot directory was directed to be installed on the same 100 mb drive that windows was on and i wondered if ubuntu overwrote it.....I wondered if it wasn't more ideal to have a seperate boot spot for ubuntu...don't quite know how it works yet?
[02:34] <daftykins> Yon: yeah that guide was for an EFI installation of both, which you don't have. bit misleading really
[02:34] <daftykins> well it kind of was, that guide was pretty bad in general :(
[02:35] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, yeah I mean best I think you can do is use, lspci in the command line to find the particular device or lspci -k to see the driver loaded for it too and search for related problems for that device if you can't find it using your laptop model
[02:35] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, does xev show you anything meaningful
[02:36] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, pretty sure you mentioned it was responding to input in some way right?
[02:36] <XxionxX> Yeah it did once
[02:36] <XxionxX> and then nothing after a reset
[02:37] <Yon> daftykins: yeah because the system is uefi enabled...and the option "install alongside" wasn't available...i read somewhere that this was because of uefi...?
[02:37] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, can you pastebin your xinput --list?
[02:37] <XxionxX> sure
[02:38] <daftykins> Yon: if you booted ubuntu in EFI mode (black screen white text) you've likely got a mixed install now
[02:38] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, also lspci -k would be good to get more info can try a bit of goolging too
[02:39] <Yon> daftykins: yeah well the first couple of times i booted, it was the efi menu actually but since then it's just the grub menu that comes up
[02:40] <daftykins> Yon: EFI menu?
[02:40] <ZIRiS> Hi., Anyone home?
[02:40] <ZIRiS> Hi., Anyone home?
[02:41] <Svetlana> yes
[02:41] <teward> ZIRiS: ask your actual question
[02:41] <ZIRiS> Awesome.
[02:41] <ZIRiS> I am trying to install Ubuntu, but my laptop shuts down before I can even get to the point where I might be able to install. Any suggestions?
[02:42] <daftykins> instant power off?
[02:42] <Yon> daftykins: well..i just called it that..it was the more elaborate interface with code-like boot options, different colour scheme ..like you said.
[02:42] <ZIRiS> Core i5 with AMD 6990M, I am trying to install proprietary drivers to see if that helps, but it shuts off before the drivers finish installing.
[02:42] <teward> ZIRiS: overheat?  Kernel panic?  Check the BIOS logs to see if there was any power loss?
[02:43] <ObrienDave> ZIRiS, is it running on battery?
[02:43] <ZIRiS> Not instant, more like an overheating thing...but it doesn't overheat in Windows at all.
[02:43] <ZIRiS> Nope, I"m plugged in.
[02:43] <ZIRiS> Yeah...about those BIOS logs....my bios sucks bawls, i don't have access to logs.
[02:44] <teward> ZIRiS: firstly, lets not compare Windows to Linux, mmkay?  They're different entities.
[02:44] <Yon> daftykins:  it had 2 code-like boot options, neither of which had ubuntu or windows implied but both options when selected resulted in ubuntu booting up
[02:44] <ZIRiS> It's a Sager 8170, and the bios is all but useless. I can switch boot options and that's about it. It doens't even have an area to view the proc...
[02:45] <XxionxX> wafflej0ck: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662915/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662932/
[02:45] <ZIRiS> And yeah, sorry, I know Ubuntu and WIndows are *very* different, just meant that, it doesn't normally overheat, ONLY when I'm in a linux environment.
[02:45] <nova-D> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662936/ here is the output from ip a
[02:45] <daftykins> Yon: ok yep, sounds like your EFI setup screen and the GRUB menu yeah. any luck with boot-repair? i'd also be interested by a "ls -al /boot | pastebinit"
[02:45] <ZIRiS> I might also add, I've tried xUbuntu, Ubuntu Studio and Ubunto Gnome....same result with all 3....overheat and power off.
[02:46] <daftykins> nova-D: ah 192.168.1.75, looks like it's getting an IP on your network fine. if that's your home network's IP range?
[02:47] <nova-D> it's getting an IP address but I'm not even getting my router's config page
[02:47] <daftykins> nova-D: is that at 1.1 or 1.254?
[02:47] <nova-D> 1.254
[02:47] <daftykins> nova-D: hmm, did it respond to ping?
[02:47] <Yon> daftykins: a bit distracted. still figuring out best way to do boot repair...http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662941/
[02:47] <nova-D> pinging localhost worked, pinging 192.168.1.254 got nothing
[02:47] <nova-D> 100% packet loss
[02:48] <ObrienDave> ZIRiS, i suspect *buntu is not allowing your fan controller to work
[02:48] <daftykins> Yon: can you remember whether you had the purple screen or the white text on black background ubuntu screen when first booting it to install it? looks like you might have a mixed setup now, follow the !uefi page for converting your ubuntu install to legacy from EFI
[02:49] <ZIRiS> ObrienDave: how do we make it do what we want it to?
[02:49] <ZIRiS> ObrienDave: I might also add that it shut down while trying to just "install" without trying it out first, ie, i did NOT go to the live desktop
[02:50] <ZIRiS> ObrienDave: We want it to work with the fan controller, how do we make them talk nice to each other?
[02:51] <daftykins> nova-D: ok, do you know which driver you installed for that realtek device? i would probably boot a live session and check it works there to rule out your connection. or try the guest account to be sure
[02:51] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, does this appear to be the same problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1394869
[02:52] <nova-D> I never installed a driver, it was working out of the box
[02:52] <ObrienDave> ZiRiS, i don't know about that. stick around. someone will know
[02:52] <XxionxX> YES!
[02:52] <daftykins> nova-D: ah, even better
[02:52] <XxionxX> A bug page!
[02:53] <daftykins> nova-D: i'd test a live session then?
[02:53] <XxionxX> definitely the same model laptop
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, unfortunately it looks like there's no resolution yet
[02:54] <XxionxX> well shucks
[02:56] <XxionxX> Should I add a 'me too' on the page?
[02:56] <RonWhoCares> Is there a way to kill a program
[02:56] <XxionxX> I've never run into a bug which didn't have a fix
[02:56] <RonWhoCares> that appears to have hung
[02:56] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: kill -9 $PID
[02:57] <RonWhoCares> what is $PID
[02:57] <RonWhoCares> do I have to use the ps #
[02:57] <daftykins> the process ID # of the capplication
[02:57] <daftykins> -c
[02:58] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, yeah I've never actually found one where there wasn't at least some workaround would be good to throw your name in the hat though and support bug report info if possible to help the devs who work on this stuff to debug
[02:58] <RonWhoCares> I am not seeing the program
[02:58] <Yon> daftykins: will try, thanks..not sure what you mean exactly...I used ubuntu live dvd to install it...? first couple of times it booted wasn't grub if that's what you mean?
[02:58] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: Just a thought...my fans spin up, gradually faster & faster, until they're at full speed, and then it does eventually shut off, but it doens't take long...are we certain it's a fan controller issue? I'm kind of thinking maybe possibly something to do with the GFX card drivers, however, proprietary drivers cause it shut off as the last step of installation...
[02:59] <daftykins> Yon: well there's a guide if you type !efi anyway, on converting
[02:59] <ObrienDave> ZiRiS, may i suggest a good cleaning of the fan vents?
[02:59] <XxionxX> wafflej0ck: I know a bit ruby but I have no experience with hardware issues and system programming
[02:59] <XxionxX> I would try and help but I have no idea where to start
[02:59] <Yon> !efi
[03:00] <XxionxX> The page says that button presses aren't even registered
[03:00] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: Not a bad idea. I can take it apart and clean it...however, if that were the case, would it not also overheat in other operating systems, not just Linux and Linux ONLY?
[03:00] <XxionxX> How can I fix something which has no output!?
[03:00] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, yeah I'm a web dev too (mostly front end and some Java and PHP server side) so not sure how to debug X input stuff further and since they are moving to Mir I believe might be a moot issue if it's solved there
[03:00] <ObrienDave> ZiRiS, not necessarily
[03:01] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: Have you heard of Yumi? It's only a little more than Unix....used to boot to other .iso's
[03:02] <XxionxX> wafflej0ck: this is such an odd error, it even freaks out more if you click the trackpad while the usb mouse is plugged in
[03:02] <anti-unix> hi
[03:02] <XxionxX> This was supposed to be a simple install for a friend ;_;
[03:02] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: I ask about Yumi because this is what i'm using to get to the Linux distro on a thunb drive...and I've not experienced it there, or in Hiren's miniXP, nor in the W7 I wish to replace with Ubuntu
[03:02] <wafflej0ck> XxionxX, yeah I mean you can check dmesg or tail -f /var/log/syslog and see if you can get any more info/errors from actual code but aside from that I'm not sure how you could collect more info
[03:03] <daftykins> ZiRiS: it's fine, there's also Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com (same site i believe)
[03:04] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: Do you think I mgiht get different results from a different flavor or distro of Ubuntu? As in perhaps the default flavor, as opposed to Xfce environment or GNome?
[03:05] <ObrienDave> ZiRiS, that is possible since Xubuntu uses XFCE. it's CPU requirements are not as high
[03:05]  * ObrienDave runs Xubuntu
[03:06] <wafflej0ck> RonWhoCares, you can ps aux | grep processnamehere to see the PID in the second column, then you can sudo kill -9 pid, alternatively you can sudo killall processname, or use top and hit k then type the process id (defaults to top process)
[03:07] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: Let me be clear...XUbuntu crashed, I have NOT tried the default flavor, Ubuntu Gnome also crashed. Is this what you were understanding? I just want to be sure I'm communicating clearly and there's no misunderstanding. :)
[03:07] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: Ubuntu Studio crashed, too, but since it's still in xfce, i guess it's not much difference from XUbuntu
[03:09] <ObrienDave> ZiRiS, my apologies. i am reluctant to offer more advice because i don't have enough experience in this field. i have looked at some things and suggest starting here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues
[03:10] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: THANK YOU. I will check it out. I really appreciate your assistance. :)
[03:10] <ObrienDave> ZiRiS, please do exhaustive research before trying any mentioned solutions
[03:10] <ObrienDave> ZiRiS, and also check with the users here BEFORE doing anything
[03:11] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: I am a Windows Tech by trade, trying to learn me some Linux...I've learned the hard way to do my research FIRST!
[03:11] <ObrienDave> as have I :))
[03:14] <ghostx562> does anyone know how to auto mount a secondary hdd as an external? i edited the fstab, but that put it into the /mnt location. im on 12.04.5
[03:14] <teward> ghostx562: you can always specify a differnet mount point
[03:15] <teward> ghostx562: such as /media/BLAHFOOBAR if you wanted
[03:15] <ghostx562> teward, how would i go upon changing it?
[03:15] <teward> ghostx562: but if it's an internal drive, I don't think it can be mounted as an "external drive"
[03:15] <clumsy_bot> ghostx562: sudo editor /etc/fstab
[03:15] <teward> ghostx562: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:15] <teward> ghostx562: find the line, replace /mnt/ with /path/of/choice
[03:15] <ghostx562> teward, idk if thats the way i can describe it lol, but i want it to show as a second drive and not in /mnt
[03:16] <ghostx562> ok
[03:16] <teward> ghostx562: i know what you want - it can show as a 'second drive' but not if it's in /mnt/
[03:16] <teward> ghostx562: you simply have to specify a different path in the fstab entry for that drive/partition
[03:16] <ghostx562> so how would i go upon doing that?
[03:16] <teward> ghostx562: and make sure the path exists at boot too - otherwise you might run into "It doesn't exist!"
[03:17] <teward> [15/01/02 22:15:32] <teward> ghostx562: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:17] <teward> [15/01/02 22:15:41] <teward> ghostx562: find the line, replace /mnt/ with /path/of/choice
[03:17] <teward> ghostx562: i suggest unmounting the drive first
[03:17] <clumsy_bot> Speaking of which, what are the options for fstab to disable auto mounting whilst retaining all other options under 'defaults'?
[03:18] <ObrienDave> if it's not in fstab, it will not automount
[03:19] <clumsy_bot> ObrienDave: I guess that means if I want to mount something I'd still require root/sudo permissions?
[03:19] <ghostx562> teward, ok let me unmount
[03:19] <ObrienDave> clumsy_bot, not sure about that
[03:19] <teward> clumsy_bot: there's probably an option but I don't remember it, time to dig in the manpages
[03:20] <ghostx562> obriendave: it is in fstab
[03:21] <clumsy_bot> Found this tidbit in the fstab man page. It says that defaults contain: "rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async"
[03:21] <ghostx562> teward: i want it to mount as if it were a usb drive, what would i set for location. if i use /media it mounts it there and i have to look for that folder to access the files
[03:21] <clumsy_bot> I wonder if I could just change auto to noauto and it'd work similarly.
[03:22] <teward> ghostx562: you can't - it's an internal drive and the system sees it as such.
[03:22] <clumsy_bot> nouser would mean I still require root/sudo permissions though.
[03:22] <teward> ghostx562: ideally you'd put the drive into an external enclosure that is USB connected - that'd get it recognized as external
[03:22] <teward> ghostx562: you still have to reboot to make the system see it in Files differently, I believe
[03:22] <ghostx562> teward, i had it mounted that way but i had to restore my system and i don't rememeber how i had it setup
[03:23] <utox> !load
[03:23] <utox> !load
[03:24] <utox> !load
[03:25] <ghostx562> !load
[03:25] <ghostx562> ill find out how later, i gotta put my brain back to work lol
[03:25] <ghostx562> exit
[03:26] <clumsy_bot> !load
[03:26] <ZiRiS> *ANYONE* Is thermald installed by default, in any flavor of Ubuntu?
[03:27] <daftykins> !info thermald
[03:27] <bazhang> !info thermald
[03:27] <ObrienDave> anyone figure out that !load does not do anything?
[03:27] <daftykins> optional. so nope, not installed
[03:27] <bazhang> ObrienDave, load what exactly
[03:27] <ObrienDave> that's what i'm wondering LOL
[03:28] <bazhang> the bot would PM them for a fake !
[03:28] <ObrienDave> bazhang, read ^
[03:28] <ObrienDave> !load
[03:28] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu to test those out
[03:28] <ZiRiS> daftykins: thanks! :)
[03:29] <ObrienDave> bazhang, sometimes, the simple explanations escape me LOL
[03:30] <cfhowlett> How do I restart graphics without rebooting??  http://fpaste.org/165142/
[03:30] <ZiRiS> ObrienDave: Thanks for the advice, I'm going to reboot & try to install it before it dies, and see if I get anywhere...with any luck I'll be back from linux to say thanks!
[03:30] <bazhang> ObrienDave, /msg ubottu brain gives a whole long rundown on which ! work
[03:32] <mgriffin27> no
[03:32] <ObrienDave> bazhang, good to know. tnx
[03:33] <bazhang> np
[03:33] <daftykins> cfhowlett: lightdm restart work?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> daftykins, full command please?
[03:33] <daftykins> sudo service lightdm restart
[03:33] <daftykins> assuming unity
[03:34] <cfhowlett> daftykins, no unity. ubuntustudio so ... xfce.  NOTE: trying to get the graphics driver so ....Inkscape, gimp types of usage.  xfce ... ain't that.
[03:34] <andlabs|2> oh boy I am this close to recovering everything
[03:35] <andlabs|2> what's the easiest way I can overwrite part of one binary file with another, if I have the destination location as a hex number?
[03:35] <Hilikus> how do i play audio on a specific pulseaudio sink?
[03:35] <andlabs|2> in bytes
[03:35] <Hilikus> i need to test a new sink
[03:35] <daftykins> cfhowlett: mm, whichever *dm it uses then :D
[03:36] <cfhowlett> cool...will try
[03:37] <andlabs|2> specifically
[03:37] <andlabs|2> I have manually recovered sectors that ddrescue could not
[03:37] <andlabs|2> from the ext4 journal
[03:37] <andlabs|2> and now I want to patch them back in
[03:37] <LogicalDash> Hey, I've got kvm installed and am trying to run the ubuntu livecd in it. But whenever I boot I get a kernel panic starting with "Starting init: /bin/sh exists but couldn't execute it (error -28)". This didn't happen when I installed onto real hardware, help?
[03:38] <zec0> hi there
[03:38] <daftykins> hello
[03:38] <LogicalDash> hi
[03:39] <daftykins> andlabs|2: 'dd' might be able to do something with an offset, i think that's an option it has
[03:39] <zec0> may i ask afew question pls
[03:39] <LogicalDash> !ask
[03:39] <daftykins> zec0: only if they relate to ubuntu support
[03:39] <zec0> i try to install nvidia driver but i cant install it
[03:40] <zec0> after installation nvidia driver and reboot, no more working there
[03:40] <andlabs> daftykins: I don't really feel comfortable with som many options to dd =P I'll probably ask in ##linux to keep things clean
[03:40] <andlabs> also to start over
[03:40] <LogicalDash> zec0: you mean you aren't seeing anything on your screen?
[03:41] <zec0> after install and reboot, then display appear but very low resoluton and no way for using
[03:41] <LogicalDash> no way for using what?
[03:42] <daftykins> zec0: what card do you have?
[03:42] <zec0> can not click,just hang
[03:43] <andlabs> well I guess so
[03:43] <zec0> nvidia GT 540M on my Asus notebook
[03:45] <daftykins> zec0: ah, then you needed to install nvidia-prime most likely. check that it's installed
[03:47] <zec0> i have not yet installed nvidia-prime bro
[03:47] <zec0> now i am using ubuntu 14.04
[03:49] <Bashing-om> zec0: In all likely hood your GT 540M card is optimus technology, and the better solution for 'hybrid grahics' is Nvidia-Prime .
[03:49] <andlabs> HA
[03:49] <andlabs> GOT IT RIGHT
[03:50] <andlabs> 4/5 sectors recovered
[03:50] <andlabs> unfortunately the last one is truly lost, but I have the inumbers so I hope ncheck can come to the rescue
[03:51] <zec0> how can i get running my nvidia card properly pls
[03:51] <bazhang> zec0, install nvidia prime as suggested
[03:53] <cryptodan> zec0: run lspci in a terminal  and http://dpaste.com the results then share the link
[03:53] <zec0> thanks let me try
[04:03] <paulosabino> hi!
[04:08] <hackerzone> hey what's up bazhang
[04:09] <ZiRiS> thermald didn't help, though, I thought it might have...so I tried to install...silly me...i got as far as removing old partitions....
[04:09] <Kaka> whenever i m running dmesg|grep b43 ; its giving error: b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode16_mimo.fw" not found
[04:10] <crazyhorse18> what's the fastest way of getting a hash of a file?
[04:10] <Svetlana> md5sum?
[04:10] <crazyhorse18> yeah, that's what i have been using
[04:10] <yourbeau> how to get xrandr on trisquel ?
[04:10] <crazyhorse18> i'm going to be doing it on 10 million files at a time though
[04:11] <ZiRiS> Now I'm on my server, seeking help...anyone have any other great ideas about why i might be suddenly turning off completely while in linux?
[04:11] <cfhowlett> !server | ZiRiS
[04:11] <Kaka> Any idea how to fix this error: b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode16_mimo.fw" not found
[04:12] <cfhowlett> ZiRiS, there are any number of things that could cause a shutdown.  start checking your hardware.
[04:12] <ZiRiS> lol, thank you ubottu, but I'm on a winders server, until i can get smart about Ubuntu...
[04:12] <ZiRiS> cfhowlett: thank you, but this happens during a live session, but not during a windows session.
[04:13] <ZiRiS> cfhowlett: live Ubuntu session*
[04:14] <ZiRiS> cfhowlett: if you've been in here for more than 10 minutes, scroll up and search for my name for more information concerning my issue.
[04:14] <ZiRiS> maybe 30 minutes...
[04:17] <wafflej0ck> ZiRiS, 21:09 on my system looks like about an hour ago actually was your last message but sorry to say no idea about your issue
[04:18] <ZiRiS> wafflej0ck thanks, i guess i lost track of time :/
[04:21] <tbw_> Is there a ubuntu-on-chromebooks subchannel or anything?
[04:22] <bazhang> is that arm?
[04:22] <tbw_> Some of them are
[04:22] <tbw_> this one is; i hear there are x86 versions
[04:22] <tbw_> I've got an older one and I just did the cruton deal and it's working really well
[04:22] <andlabs> well time to go I guess
[04:22] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-arm perhaps
[04:22] <tbw_> I'm kinda shocked
[04:22] <andlabs> if you want to read what I did then http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/177151/96727
[04:23] <tbw_> Is there a reason why it's so hard to remove things from the side bar in unity? I mean why can't i just right click remove?
[04:24] <bazhang> !info unity-tweak-tool
[04:26] <tbw_> bazhang: Ah, the side I found is having me do something with bzr etc
[04:26] <bazhang> ok
[04:26] <ZiRiS> bazhang: is that just "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool"?
[04:27] <bazhang> ZiRiS, thats how to install packages yes
[04:27] <ZiRiS> bazhang: what i meant was, is that the specific name of the package?
[04:27] <tbw_> bazhang: Is there a universe repo for arm?
[04:27] <tbw_> ZiRiS: I looked in the cache nothing called that in my repo's
[04:28] <bazhang> try the arm channel perhaps tbw_
[04:28] <bazhang> #ubuntu-arm
[04:29] <tbw_> Hrm.
[04:29] <tbw_> There are universe repos
[04:29] <tbw_> Which I"m already on. Hrmm.
[04:30] <captainfantastic> I installed xubuntu-desktop and now Unity login screen is changed. How to bring it back? I installed ubuntu-desktop. no change?
[04:30] <bazhang> selected it in the login window? captainfantastic
[04:31] <captainfantastic> bazhang: Xubuntu's login screen is appearing now, not Unity's default one
[04:34] <captainfantastic> Does unity use gdm as its default login screen?
[04:34] <xangua> captainfantastic: light dm
[04:34] <tbw> Ah
[04:34] <tbw> I'm going to sit through a do-release-upgrade
[04:35] <tbw> maybe i'll have better luck after that.
[04:36] <kav3li> Wanted to modify my kernel driver to support AP mode
[04:40] <jdzielny> hello everyone.  I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and I've just hooked up a new LG HDMI monitor, and can't get any sound out of it.  The previous HDMI monitor had sound without issue
[04:40] <jdzielny> I've tried changing all the sound settings, different output devices, etc., without success
[04:45] <daftykins> jdzielny: does it have speakers? :)
[04:45] <k4m3h4t3> hai
[04:46] <k4m3h4t3> can help anybody
[04:46] <mieayam> hai
[04:46] <k4m3h4t3> mieayam dimn
[04:46] <mieayam> ?
[04:47] <k4m3h4t3> mieayam indonesia?
[04:47] <daftykins> !in
[04:47] <mieayam> yup, situ juga dari indonesia?
[04:47] <daftykins> oops
[04:47] <k4m3h4t3> yup
[04:47] <mieayam> ok, let's speak english
[04:47] <jdzielny> daftykins, yes lol
[04:47] <mieayam> before someone kicks us
[04:47] <daftykins> !id
[04:47] <daftykins> or you could join your own channel!
[04:48] <mieayam> so, what's ur problem k4m3h4t3?
[04:49] <Yon> Ok, I dual installed a preinstalled windows 7 with ubuntu 14.04. now windows won't boot. [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "Installed in EFI mode" || echo "Installed in Legacy mode" returns legacy mode . Given Windows won't boot, what's the sure way to find out if windows was installed in uefi mode before i do anything else?
[04:49] <daftykins> Yon: it definitely wasn't
[04:50] <Yon> daftykins:  ok so given ubuntu wasn't either ...i should just run boot repair?
[04:51] <Yon> daftykins: interested to know how you know that too
[04:53] <daftykins> Yon: the first partition is FAT with EFI Windows
[04:57] <Yon> daftykins: you can tell that from the outputs http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662858 or http://paste.ubuntu.com/9662941?  Sorry..trying to understand...what lines tell you that which i'm overlooking?
[04:58] <claudio> ciao a tutti
[05:00] <daftykins> Yon: you have a legacy windows 7 installation because it's got a 100MB NTFS partition at the start before the C: volume
[05:00] <Baribal> Hi. I'm playing around with VMs. What do I have to do for new VMs to appear in my DNS under their hostname?
[05:01] <daftykins> "appear in my DNS" ?
[05:01] <daftykins> you should use IPs not hostnames
[05:03] <mieayam> Baribal: you've to use bridge mode in network setting
[05:06] <Yon> daftykins: yeah i'd read that was an indicator but wasn't sure how definitive it was...ok so that's sorted, thanks. Ok wondering what implications that has for why "install ubuntu alongside..." option was not available?
[05:06] <daftykins> maybe you had no free disk space at the time, not sure
[05:07] <Baribal> mieayam, looking into it, thanks. daftykins, why? I'd end up adding them to /etc/hosts under the same name anyway.
[05:07] <daftykins> so have you not even tried running boot-repair yet?
[05:07] <daftykins> !bootrepair
[05:07] <daftykins> Baribal: heh, up to you if you want to use things in such strange ways :)
[05:07] <mieayam> Baribal: welcome :)
[05:08] <Baribal> daftykins, what would you recommend for us people who like using names instead of IPs?
[05:08] <daftykins> i don't really cater for such usages
[05:09] <daftykins> and you've already been given a valid answer
[05:13] <bynarie> lol
[05:13] <jdzielny> does anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot HDMI audio issues/
[05:14] <mieayam> what issue?
[05:14] <jdzielny> mieayam, I'm not getting any audio at all.  It appears to be playing, but it's not working
[05:15] <mieayam> have you try another cable?
[05:15] <jdzielny> the cable works fine, it's brand new and works with the previous monitor
[05:15] <mieayam> have you tried another monitor/tv?
[05:16] <jdzielny> Yes.  Other monitors work, and this one works with other computers
[05:16] <daftykins> displays with speakers, madness!
[05:16] <jdzielny> daftykins, with respect, you're not helping, can you please refrain from wasting space?
[05:16] <mieayam> please go to #yourTVbrandHere channel
[05:17] <daftykins> jdzielny: i'm a regular volunteer in here, i will not be spoken to rudely.
[05:17] <daftykins> jdzielny: i'm sorry you're upset about not getting something to work, but don't act like that.
[05:18] <jdzielny> I wasn't being rude.  I asked if you could stop interrupting with unhelpful banter
[05:18] <daftykins> well don't comment again.
[05:18] <daftykins> lets get back on topic now
[05:19] <jdzielny> agreed
[05:19] <jdzielny> Now, here's the problem.  The monitor works with other computers, and this computer works with other monitors
[05:19] <jdzielny> Unfortunately, though, for some reason, THIS system with THIS monitor doesn't work
[05:20] <jdzielny> all the audio appears to be working, though
[05:20] <daftykins> looked at aplay -L and -l output i take it?
[05:21] <jdzielny> yes
[05:21] <ObrienDave> is the volume up on the monitor?
[05:21] <h3x0r> hey bazhang
[05:21] <jdzielny> ObrienDave, yeah
[05:22] <daftykins> i would bet there are multiple sinks and the wrong one is chosen
[05:22] <daftykins> pastebin would've been better than a 'yes'
[05:24] <jdzielny> aplay -L: http://pastebin.com/MViLUJ2J
[05:24] <jdzielny> aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/rvUEQWPC
[05:26] <daftykins> yeah, i see two devices then
[05:27] <daftykins> jdzielny: try out speaker-test
[05:27]  * h3x0r . /join #haxor.team
[05:28] <jdzielny> in pavucontrol, there appears to be sound (the meter jumps around when sound plays), but nothing
[05:28] <jdzielny> no sound at all
[05:28] <daftykins> right because it's probably on the wrong device of the two
[05:28] <Yon> daftykins: installed and am running root repair...answered no to removal of grub 2 from current location...was that right?
[05:29] <Yon> *boot
[05:29] <daftykins> Yon: yeah possibly :)
[05:29] <jdzielny> daftykins, can you explain what you mean by that? and what you mean by you see two devices?
[05:29] <daftykins> jdzielny: i don't really see how much plainer i can be. look at the aplay output, there is a device 3,0 HDMI and a device 7,1 HDMI
[05:32] <[gnubie]> i’m reading on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[05:33] <daftykins> yes?
[05:33] <[gnubie]> i’m wondering how am i going to retain the latest version and the previous version of the kernel automatically?
[05:33] <[gnubie]> dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[05:33] <daftykins> well don't run that for one.
[05:34] <daftykins> just look at your old versions in /boot versus "uname -r" then remove all but the most recent two
[05:34] <daftykins> simples
[05:34] <[gnubie]> the above command only retains the latest kernel. how about if i also would like to retain the previous kernel?
[05:34] <jdzielny> daftykins, I'm not sure I know what to look for here.  what would a proper aplay -D output be?
[05:34] <mieayam> [gnubie] cool! you must be master in regular expression and perl
[05:35] <daftykins> mieayam: you didn't read the link :P
[05:35] <mieayam> yeah, i didnt
[05:35] <daftykins> then you'd know it was a paste
[05:36] <jdzielny> daftykins, which lines are you looking at?  I'm pretty good with linux, but I've never had to delve into this part of it before
[05:36] <daftykins> jdzielny: no idea where you got -D from
[05:37] <eeee> ssh?
[05:37] <daftykins> nah, aplay
[05:37] <eeee> oh
[05:37] <daftykins> eeee: jdzielny has no audio with an HDMI connected monitor, aplay -l = http://pastebin.com/rvUEQWPC - i reckon the wrong device between lines 3 and 6 has been chosen by the system
[05:38] <daftykins> any good on that topic? :>
[05:38] <jdzielny> daftykins, aplay -D to test a specific device
[05:38] <eeee> daftykins: nope
[05:41] <daftykins> i don't know how to use that, the manpage isn't giving it away
[05:43] <eeee> jdzielny: sounds silly but did you try settings > sound?
[05:43] <jdzielny> eeee, yeah
[05:43] <jdzielny> I've changed the available devices
[05:44] <jdzielny> the bizarre thing is that the VU meters move when there's sound playing (e.g. a video is playing) even though there's no sound from the speakers
[05:44] <daftykins> that's pretty common actually
[05:44] <eeee> jdzielny: try clicking on a device
[05:44] <daftykins> it hints at what i've suggested
[05:47] <Yon> daftykins: seems to have worked :) Thanks!
[05:47] <daftykins> woohoo \o/
[06:03] <revo> hi all, just downloaded icon theme pack from http://xfce-look.org ... just woundering how do i install so it shows up in settings / appearance
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !theme | revo
[06:04] <frenda> What's the equvalent for this command in Ubuntu? 1. sudo nano /etc/vconsole.conf    2. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-keyboard.conf
[06:04] <revo> i already downloaded...i just want to know how do i install ???
[06:05] <Yon> daftykins: ok so now i just need to tidy things up a bit. namely, the drive which shows in ubuntu has the windows files on it and contrary wise for windows..any suggestions?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> revo: read that last url, ubuntu eyecandy
[06:05] <OerHeks> frenda, it is the same.
[06:05] <frenda> I mean is Ubuntu using those file like archlinux?
[06:05] <revo> ok, but im running xubuntu, does it make a diference ???
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> revo: i think xubuntu also uses gtk themes
[06:06] <frenda> OerHeks: `ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-keyboard.conf` ---> `No such file or directory`
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> revo: try #xubuntu to make sure
[06:06] <OerHeks> frenda, i guess you want the equevalent of /etc/vconsole.conf  ?
[06:06] <mieayam> xubuntu xfce
[06:06] <daftykins> Yon: don't follow you there i'm afraid.
[06:06] <wafflej0ck> Yon, typically windows can't read the linux filesystems like ext4 or reiserfs or any of the others instead it uses ntfs, typically I believe your /etc/fstab on the linux side may be configured to mount your windows partition which you could remove if it's in there, but you shouldn't be able to even see the linux partition from windows really
[06:06] <revo> lotuspsychje,  what does gtk1. gtk2. gtk3 standfor ???
[06:07] <wafflej0ck> revo, pretty sure they are gnome toolkit versions
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> !gtk | revo
[06:07] <frenda> OerHeks: `/etc/vconsole.conf` is empty for me?!
[06:07] <revo> mieayam,  yes..thats site wr i downloaded my theme, but i came in .zip file???
[06:08] <frenda> There's not any xorg.conf file in /etc?!
[06:08] <mieayam> revo: dunno, doncare - maybe someone else know
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> frenda: what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:10] <frenda> lotuspsychje: To enable X11 language switching
[06:10] <thedanyes> Hey guys.  I'm encountering bug #269904 in ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  A patch has been released, but apparently it's only for 14.10 and newer.
[06:10] <revo> lotuspsychje, ubottu  ...thx gents much appreciated for your time
[06:10] <thedanyes> Is there an easy way to load the utopic compiz package in 14.04?
[06:10] <frenda> I did it when I was on arch!
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> revo: check this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/07/a-list-of-best-15-ubuntu-1204-themes.html
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: what grafix card and driver loaded?
[06:12] <frenda> Arch linux had this file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf which I can not find it on Ubuntu!
[06:12] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: gtx 570, 340.65
[06:12] <jdzielny> daftykins, et al, I give up for the night.  thanks for your  help
[06:12] <jdzielny> later
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: is that an optimus card?
[06:13] <revo> lotuspsychje,  yeah i already had a look at that site, but was told not to install or follow instructions from sources such as that
[06:13] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: no
[06:13] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: desktop card, it has powermizer but no optimus
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: did you install 14.04 with cable on/updates enabled?
[06:13] <revo> lotuspsychje,  just onemore question...how do installfile after i download from website
[06:14] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: cable on?  I run updates regularly... not sure what you mean.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: during ubuntu install, did you have active internet + updates checked during setup
[06:15] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: it's been a long time, I don't recall. I upgraded from 13.10. I definitely had active Internet though.
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: i would re-install fresh mate 14.04 + updates + internet
[06:15] <OerHeks> frenda, edit /etc/default/keyboard. After that, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup to commit your settings
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: maybe its some weird grafix leftover from 13.10 troubleing your system
[06:16] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: I don't follow.  I posted the bug report and it seems legit, and it describes the problem I'm seeing.  Are you saying I should already have a fix on 14.04?
[06:16] <revo> thx all
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> revo: http://sourcedigit.com/8704-customize-ubuntu-install-ubuntu-14-04-themes/
[06:16] <daftykins> well that bug is from 2008
[06:17] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: as far as I can tell, a fix has only been released for 14.10, and I want to load that update on my LTS version.
[06:17] <revo> lotuspsychje,  thx once more :)
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: im saying, we can try everything we can to make your system work
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: installing 14.04 fresh can do miracles sometimes
[06:17] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje:  I don't think it makes logical sense to reload my OS in order to try to fix a bug known to affect this version...
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: bugs are very relative, issues can come from different points
[06:21] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: okay, well thanks for the advice.  The bug is annoying, but reinstalling would be a long process for me.   I guess my plan is to try to move back to the townsend repo where there were some unofficial compiz patches...
[06:21] <frenda> OerHeks: Thank you, It seems there's a little more problems! I'm following the below method which worked before on Archlinux/Manjaro. Now I have Install openbox on my Ubuntu server and that method does not work!
[06:21] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje:  I would have thought Canonical would take a 'high priority' bug in their LTS version more seriously.
[06:21] <frenda> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Openbox:_Switch_languages_using_the_keyboard_and_xxkb#Install_the_prefered_languages
[06:21] <frenda> Is there any different in above files with ubuntu?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: canonical isnt responsible to users upgrade issues
[06:22] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje:  it's a known issue with fresh installs as well as upgrades.   I'm not sure what you mean.
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: if you try 14.04.1 fresh and still have this bug, then maybe you can complain
[06:23] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje:  it's a confirmed bug.  I can complain whenever the fuck I feel like it.  Who the hell are you?
[06:23] <daftykins> thedanyes: this is the first i've heard of it. i'd think we'd have a fair few more users if this bug of yours was more widespread
[06:23] <daftykins> thedanyes: alright drop the attitude and don't use that kind of language in here.
[06:23] <daftykins> acting like this is a school playground isn't going to get you anywhere
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: im just saying we have alot of users with troubles on upgrades..
[06:23] <thedanyes> daftykins: are you saying the devs don't know what they're talking about?
[06:23] <thedanyes> there was no information that indicated this was an upgrade-specific bug.
[06:24] <daftykins> what devs?
[06:24] <thedanyes> daftykins: christopher townsend
[06:24] <thedanyes> daftykins: did you actually read the bug report?
[06:24] <daftykins> all i know is you linked to a 2008 bug which had posts at the end saying something else was going on so should be in a different bug
[06:25] <Yon> daftykins: sorry , made a poor assumption about the windows side ..wafflej0ck was right however, the drive that shows on the ubuntu side does have the windows files on it and if i group them into one folder with the boot loader can't find the files to boot windows so moving the others might interfere with other stuff in windows? Is my only option to hide them?
[06:26] <thedanyes> daftykins: there was one user who had a different issue and was referred to a different bug.  read update #346
[06:26] <thedanyes> "[ Chris Townsend ]
[06:26] <thedanyes>   * Added support for GL_EXT_x11_sync_object OpenGL extension for Nvidia
[06:26] <thedanyes>     based GPUs to avoid screen refresh issues. (LP: #269904)"
[06:26] <daftykins> Yon: i really don't follow you
[06:26] <daftykins> thedanyes: sorry already lost interest, bed time
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: do you know how much users come here with refresh issues in their grafix?
[06:27] <thedanyes> daftykins: lol good night
[06:27] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: I don't
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: dont be so stubborn, and install trusty fresh its supported till 2020
[06:27] <PolishPickers> anyone uses ssd drives?
[06:27] <Blue11> too expensive
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> PolishPickers: yes, whats your question?
[06:27] <wafflej0ck> PolishPickers, yup
[06:27] <daftykins> SSDs are great
[06:28] <wafflej0ck> Blue11, worth it
[06:28] <sgen_> are environment variables with '.' in them valid?
[06:28] <Blue11> i think a 1 t/b drive was $700
[06:28] <PolishPickers> i just got one 240gb for 80 bucks and my system feels on steroids
[06:28] <wafflej0ck> Blue11, don't need 1t/b just enough for your OS and programs
[06:28] <wafflej0ck> Blue11, can keep media on a spinning disk
[06:28] <Blue11> about 10x the cost of a hard drive ---- those will come down in price
[06:28] <Yon> daftykins: ok well in the side panel with icons in ubuntu, the hard drive is among them right? well when i open it it has files for the windows system on it and if i move them, windows is affected.
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> lets not discuss hardware guys
[06:29] <Blue11> k
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> PolishPickers: ask your ubuntu question mate
[06:29] <daftykins> Yon: yeah, i would recommend not messing with the Windows drive. just deal with the Ubuntu one
[06:29] <PolishPickers> the question is there a proper way to make them last under ubuntu
[06:29] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: I understand there are upgrade issues, I just don't see this as being related to an upgrade.  There are no problems when I use townsend's unofficial patches, and I was using that up until I saw the bug had been marked as fixed and allowed my compiz to be updated to the latest official version.  Unfortunately the fix doesn't seem to apply to LTS.
[06:30] <PolishPickers> is there a good software?
[06:30] <wafflej0ck> PolishPickers, you using 14.04 if so TRIM is enabled on drives that support it
[06:30] <wafflej0ck> PolishPickers, you shouldn't have to do anything extra
[06:30] <PolishPickers> yes i am 14.04.1
[06:30] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: Do a lot of users ask about refresh issues, or are you saying I'm one of the few?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> PolishPickers: you can tweak your ssd in alot of was in ubuntu
[06:30] <Yon> daftykins: cool but that's the only drive readily accessible, as though it was the ubuntu one..only it has windows files on it?
[06:30] <PolishPickers> ok i was worried about that
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: yes a lot of users having screen issues
[06:31] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: mainly laptops?
[06:31] <wafflej0ck> thedanyes, it's a mix, lots of gfx related issues though, especially right after install
[06:31] <Blue11> wafflej0ck private message ok?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: all kinds of systems
[06:31] <wafflej0ck> Blue11, sure I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic too if you want to get some other opinions
[06:31] <Blue11> wafflej0ck perfect
[06:31] <daftykins> Yon: open the file manager instead, you must just be new to it.
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> PolishPickers: check the ##linux-ssd guys
[06:32] <PolishPickers> thanks!
[06:33] <sgen_> Can I use '.' in environment variable names?
[06:34] <Yon> daftykins: and unmount the drive..sure doh..I am a a bit of a noob..cheers
[06:35] <mieayam> sgen_: you shouldn't
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: upgrades are tricky, but upgrades from non-lts to lts are even more tricky
[06:45] <thedanyes> lotuspsychje: okay.  well like I was just saying, the bug does not appear when I run the third-party compiz packages from the guy who created the patch for the bug I mentioned.  I think it's pretty likely that getting the ubuntu compiz 0.9.12 package installed on my system would fix the issue I'm seeing.  It just seems like it hasn't been released for LTS.
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> !info compiz trusty
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> thedanyes: ou can do what ou like, but i surely would try trusty fresh
[06:48] <thedanyes> is there an easy way to see what the most popular ubuntu bug reports are?
[06:51] <mieayam> guys, how to use alis command?
[06:51] <Laibsch> I anybody else seeing GPG verification errors after the New Year?  I have just returned from holiday and was going to update my two Trusty laptops and they are now both giving me errors on "sudo aptitude update" indicating that "the following signatures were invalid" 40976EAF437D05B5
[06:52] <daftykins> !alis | mieayam
[06:52] <thedanyes> lol!  it looks like the highest 'heat' bug for compiz is more-or-less the same one I'm encountering.
[06:52] <daftykins> mieayam: that's a network question. ask in #freenode for more ;) irrelevant here
[06:52] <mieayam> thanks daftykins
[06:52] <thedanyes> the fourth highest is the exact bug I'm encountering.
[06:53] <Laibsch> ubuntu-keyring is installed and I have already run apt-key to update the keys but that program tells me the keys are unchanged after importing them again from keyserver.ubuntu.com
[06:54] <thedanyes> and yet no LTS patch even when they've provided patches for 14.10 and 15.04
[06:55] <Laibsch> brb
[07:25] <iLoveJava> I switched from windows to ubuntu to learn programming in c++. I'm a newbie in c++. I am trying to build a simple command line tag editor for music files using taglib. My question is this: Is it possible to download header files required for incorporating taglib in my program using apt-get? after installing where are they located? Do I have to include the full path of the header files?
[07:28] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> making a cuppa
[07:28] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> brb
[07:29] <wafflej0ck> iLoveJava, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13216124/how-do-you-compile-taglib-on-ubuntu <-- this should answer how to get it, you can use dpkg -L packagename to see the paths for all the files in a given package
[07:29] <wafflej0ck> iLoveJava, regarding if you'll need to use full paths I'm really not sure as I haven't done any C++ in a while myself and really just used standard libraries in the past but don't recall ever using full paths
[07:32] <iLoveJava> wafflej0ck, I don't want to compile taglib itself. I just want to use them in my project. I thought like, first install libtaglib using apt-get, then install libtaglib-dev using apt-get, then straight away include the headers and compile. Is this correct?
[07:32] <wafflej0ck> iLoveJava, yeah typically you just need the -dev packages for whatever it is you're compiling
[07:43] <grumbel> Does anybody now how to enable HMAC for ecryptfs?
[07:44] <grumbel> see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+question/256277
[07:44] <user> hi all. i disabled my external monitor momentarily but after trying to reenable it it no longer becomes enabled. what can i do?
[07:44] <Seveas> user: reboot
[07:45] <grumbel> user: I have a few scripts that use xrandr to change monitor settings
[07:45] <syntroPi> how can I use the SUPER key in gnome3 for having the overview in ubuntu 14.10?
[07:45] <user> Seveas: rebooting not only doesn't work, but i now experience a graphics bug where the laptop's monitor goes crazy for about 30 seconds.
[07:46] <ubuntu-342345> grumbel: xrandr --addmode and such doesn't work
[07:46] <ubuntu-342345> do you know which xrandr commands are used to enable an external monitor?
[07:48] <wafflej0ck> syntroPi, works that way by default in 14.04, not sure about 14.10 though
[07:49] <grumbel> ubuntu-342345: xrandr \
[07:49] <grumbel>  --output DFP2 \
[07:49] <grumbel>    --mode "1680x1050" \
[07:49] <grumbel>    --panning "1680x1050+1280+0/0x0+0+0" \
[07:49] <grumbel>  --output CRT1 \
[07:49] <grumbel>    --mode "1280x1024"
[07:49] <unopaste> grumbel you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:49] <syntroPi> wafflej0ck, i suspect gnome remaps it somehow: everytime i do dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration from gnome terminal it works after that... but not after fresh login
[07:50] <grumbel> ubuntu-342345: Setting a --mode should make it switch back on, using --off should switch it off
[07:50] <shadowe989> grumbel, paste.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <shadowe989> oh didn't see the message above my bad.
[07:51] <Guest9995> Hi
[07:51] <Guest9995> Anybody there ?
[07:52] <Seveas> Guest9995: nope, we're all gone.
[07:52] <syntroPi> Guest9995, 1576 people are here
[07:54] <ubuntu-342345> grumbel: the laptop monitor goes a little weird and flickers and the external monitor looks like its turning on but nothing changes.
[07:54] <shadowe989> not a soul
[07:54] <Seveas> syntroPi: of those, 10% are bots, 50% are asleep, 13% are afk for eating, 18% are on the toilet and 7% are visiting the in-laws. There's maybe 10 people in here :)
[07:54] <grumbel> ubuntu-342345: maybe the monitor doesn't like the mode? Have you tried different modes?
[07:54] <shadowe989> !ask | Guest9995
[07:56] <ubuntu-342345> grumbel: yep.
[07:56] <ZAKhan> just a general question .. any idea how to download images from an rss feed?
[07:57] <syntroPi> disect it with xpath and feed it tu curl?
[07:57] <LTS14N00b> Hi All, I'm trying to transcode some video files into a compatible DIVX format that my PVR canplay on my TV. I have installed WinFF which looks pretty good, but fails with a "unknown error libxvid" error. i have checked their support forum  but the information is a few years old and doesn't work when I try it anyway. anyone with WinFF experience or can someone recommend another program?
[07:58] <syntroPi> Handbrake?
[08:00] <Guest9995> Does anyone know an LXLE irc channel ?
[08:00] <wafflej0ck> LTS14N00b, believe WinFF is just a frontend for ffmpeg command line tool, pretty sure avconv is the newer version of it though if you can't find or work with ffmpeg directly
[08:01] <syntroPi> maybe it needs some libavcodec-extra-54 or such?
[08:01] <LTS14N00b> syntroPi: Handbrake I have heard is also very good, but it crashes when I tell it the source file :( I have also tried Outreel which appears to work, but I can't do batch (not a big problem) but can't seem to find the right configuration for the PVR to play it.
[08:01] <LTS14N00b> wafflej0ck: This would account why the support board is so old...
[08:02] <ayer_> ...
[08:03] <wafflej0ck> LTS14N00b, yeah check out either https://libav.org/avconv.html or https://www.ffmpeg.org/
[08:03] <Guest9995> Wich account ?
[08:04] <LTS14N00b> wafflej0ck: Thanks, I'll have a look at them..
[08:04] <syntroPi> Guest9995, you dont mean #lxde right?
[08:05] <Guest9995> LXLE not LXDE
[08:05] <Guest9995> The distro based on lubuntu
[08:06] <syntroPi> Guest9995, there seems to be lxle on irc.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <Guest9995> I'll find it again, but I did not find
[08:12] <OY1R> q: just got a message saying i only have 4kb of free space on a drive with approx 66gb of free space, what's going on ?
[08:13] <Alphakarem> Hi Everyone
[08:14] <stewi1014024> I would Imagine that could be caused by many diferent things. Any more info (was it a popup, or did you get this while running a specific program)?
[08:14] <Alphakarem> newbie question ... my current kernel is 3.13.0-29-generic, I have updated to 3.13.0-43-generic but when I reboot and tun uname -r i still get the old version ... how can i fix that ?
[08:14] <OY1R> stewi1014024, was that for me ?
[08:15] <stewi1014024> yes
[08:15] <stewi1014024> I don't claim to be an ubuntu expert, but I run my own server and have used it for quite a few years now.
[08:15] <OY1R> stewi1014024, no i didnt run anything other than firefox, refused to download since i only have 4 kb left
[08:16] <OY1R> stewi1014024, disk usage analyzer says there is about 66gb free
[08:16] <OY1R> and df
[08:18] <stewi1014024> The only thing I can think of is if there is some kind of drive quota (per user).
[08:20] <kahrl> OY1R: have you run out of inodes? (df -i)
[08:23] <stewi> ping
[08:27] <Alphakarem> any ideas ?
[08:28] <Svetlana> Alphakarem: try "sudo update-grub" and reboot again
[08:28] <stewi> ^ what he said
[08:29] <stewi> should have thought of that
[08:29] <Svetlana> Alphakarem: also, «sudo dpkg -l *3.13.0*» should show you what actually is installed, using the 'ii' word at the beginning of the line.
[08:30] <OY1R> kahrl, /dev/sdb             61046784   47948 60998836    1% /media/1TB
[08:33] <OY1R> lot's of free inodes
[08:35] <wafflej0ck> OY1R, perhaps try with wget copy the URL see if maybe it's a browser related thing or actually some disk/OS problem
[08:37] <xchatter> Hi, anybody here who knows grub well?
[08:38] <OY1R> ubuntu refuses to copy anything to the disk
[08:39] <stewi> xchatter: Just fire away. If someone can anwser it they will. I know a little.
[08:39] <bazhang> xchatter, tried #grub ?
[08:39] <Alphakarem> I did the update-grub and still on the old version
[08:40] <Alphakarem> I did also dpkg-l *3.13.0* and it showed a whole list installed
[08:40] <stewi> Unless its OS specific, you probably want to try #grub
[08:40] <stewi> Unless it's OS specific, you probably want to try #grub
[08:40] <xchatter> Hi. I am running an encrypted LVM and corrupted by grub yesterday.
[08:41] <xchatter> Now I have booted from a live usb stick with Lubuntu
[08:41] <stewi> tried grub-install as root?
[08:41] <xchatter> I opened with cryptsetup and chrooted
[08:41] <stewi> with the appropriate options ofc
[08:41] <xchatter> i did grub-install /dev/sda as root
[08:42] <xchatter> I get the error: root@lubuntu:/# grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[08:42] <xchatter> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[08:42] <xchatter> grub-install: error: attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=1' in file `/etc/default/grub'..
[08:42] <xchatter> So I edited the /etc/default/grub and put that line in there saved it and then update-grub
[08:43] <xchatter> another try with grub-install but same error
[08:43] <xchatter> Any idea?
[08:43] <stewi> That sounds not very OS specific. You'll probalby find better anwsers on #grub
[08:45] <stewi> supergrub is a great tool, and might help you. It will also allow you to boot your original OS. (allthough I'm not sure how it would handle the encrypted LVM)
[08:46] <wafflej0ck> xchatter, just read through some forum (arch guys but talking about the crypto problem) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=177655 this may be helpful
[08:47] <wafflej0ck> xchatter, they indicate you may be accidentally telling it to install grub to the encrypted partition which will cause this error but is a red herring to some degree... they also discuss a bit more of detail about the configuration
[08:47] <xchatter> I already read that earlier today.
[08:47] <Lucax> Hello, how to change an image alt text in ubuntu? it doesn't appear as default
[08:47] <xchatter> Unfortunately there is not much on this topic.
[08:49] <wafflej0ck> xchatter, yeah don't have any encrypted partitions so not really sure, I don't have the need for local encryption really and would rather have a partition that's easy to read if I have system problems
[08:49] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, do you mean EXIF info?
[08:49] <Alphakarem> what would be my next step to make grub see the new kernel ?
[08:50] <xchatter> OK. But thank for the help anyway. Maybe someone has the same setup as me.
[08:50] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, alt tags are used in HTML markup like <img src="someimage.png" alt="It's some image"/>  whereas the EXIF info is a part of the image file itself and includes author date etc. etc. if you want EXIF believe Shotwell lets you modify those
[08:51] <Lucax> waffle: I dont know what EXIF info is. I am doing seo and uptimizing my website picture with good descriptions and it is adviced to add an Alt.text (a text that will be avaliable for text to speech robot to tell the name of the picture so hearing impaired can get to know the content).
[08:52] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, yeah someone else came in here in the last few days asking the same, must have seen the same YouTube video... it's talking about EXIF tags but they call them "alt tags" in the video which is just wrong
[08:52] <Lucax> ok
[08:52] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, you really want both things for SEO purposes and accessibility, the alt tags in HTML markup help web crawlers, screen readers, and show when the image isn't loaded
[08:52] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, the EXIF stuff you should be able to install Shotwell to edit those
[08:53] <Lucax> ok, great
[08:53] <Lucax> I have shotwell allready, so I guess that is my bu
[08:53] <Lucax> bus
[08:53] <Alphakarem> any suggestions guys ?
[08:55] <wafflej0ck> !grub | Alphakarem
[08:55] <wafflej0ck> Alphakarem, would take a look at the docs, pull up the man page, check out /etc/grub.d/README and see if you can manually do it perhaps if no one else has any better ideas
[08:57] <Cobalt> Hello. Happy new year. I just thought of a question: How do I convert my useless right super key into an additional control key?
[08:58] <wafflej0ck> Alphakarem, I'm pretty sure that update-grub uses a combination of your /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ files to make the /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:59] <wafflej0ck> Cobalt, you can check out, xev, and xbindkeys, might do the trick
[08:59] <Alphakarem> wafflej0ck, what do you need me to do to help diagnoise this issue ?
[08:59] <wafflej0ck> Cobalt, xev to see what the input is coming into the system as and xbindkeys to remap using a config file
[08:59] <Cobalt> wafflej0ck: Does this use ibus? Because ibus seems to override everything.
[09:00] <wafflej0ck> Alphakarem, well I'm not really familiar with installing extra kernels so I can't help in detail but just telling you what I do know about grub or what I can decipher from my own system
[09:00] <wafflej0ck> Cobalt, not sure about that I just used it when I was running Kubuntu/KDE so I could map some things I was having trouble mapping otherwise
[09:01] <Cobalt> I had a solution with xmodmap before; and that conflicts with and is overriden by ibus.
[09:01] <Cobalt> I'm having a look at xbindkeys at the moment though.
[09:01] <wafflej0ck> Alphakarem, but would check out the README in the /etc/grub.d and see if you can figure out how to write a custom entry
[09:01] <wafflej0ck> Alphakarem, perhaps can copy one of the existing configs in there and redo the update-grub, but like I said never done this myself so I can't really guide you
[09:02] <Alphakarem> ok ... how about this .... can I "apt-get remove linux-headers-3.13.0-29-generic linux-image-3.1.13.0-29-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0.29-generic" which in my mind will force the new kernel to be the only entry available ?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Alphakarem, ... and then update grub
[09:03] <Alphakarem> thank you .. I will give that a shot then
[09:03] <xchatter> When installing grub. Does it have to be grub-install /dev/sda or grub-install /dev/sda1?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> xchatter, you can put grub where you want but /dev/sda is the default
[09:04] <utsav> I want help with geany. Few days before, I accidentally open a file format with it that geany cant support. That file is still saved as a file which is opened first when I launch geany. This is preventing Geany from launching. Please help, how to remove the entry of wrong file format from Geany's Memory?
[09:06] <wafflej0ck> utsav, most programs that have user specific settings (like recent files list) store them in files that start with a . in your home folder (hidden files) typically you can just delete the . folder like .geany and on next start the program will recreate it with defaults, in this case since I'm not sure I'd just rename the .geany folder
[09:06] <wafflej0ck> utsav, worse case scenario sudo apt-get purge geany, then sudo apt-get install geany
[09:07] <wafflej0ck> utsav, believe Ctrl+H is to show/hide hidden files it might be Alt . though depending on your file browser
[09:08] <utsav> wafflej0ck, I tried reinstalling Geany but error remains there. Ctrl+H is not showing .geany or some similar folder...
[09:09] <wafflej0ck> utsav, did you try purging it?
[09:09] <wafflej0ck> utsav, just remove will leave config files around
[09:09] <wafflej0ck> utsav, purge should totally wipe it out
[09:09] <cfhowlett> utsav, dpgk -P geany
[09:09] <utsav> Oh, I see, I though t both are same... I will try it right away...
[09:16] <utsav> wafflej0ck, after purging and reinstalling error remains there. The error is "Geany tried to access the Unix Domain socket of another instance running as another user.
[09:16] <utsav> This is a fatal error and Geany will now quit."
[09:18] <ArcherReilly> what
[09:19] <feurd> For an obscure reason, since yesterday, when I press 'Ctrl-Space', it changes the layout of my keyboard. It's really annoying when working with emacs. Does anyone know how to change that?
[09:20] <feurd> (I'm using I3, not Unity)
[09:21] <utsav> cfhowlett, dpkg -P geany is also not working, can restarting resolve the issue?
[09:21] <cfhowlett> utsav, couldn't hurt ...
[09:23] <iLoveJava> how to compile a static build of a software package from its soruce tar.gz?
[09:24] <bazhang> what package iLoveJava
[09:24] <utsav> cfhowlett, Yesterday I found a way of starting Geany anyway with no recent files, by staring through terminal as geany -i . I think I will have to proceed with terminal command. Anyway thanks for your help
[09:25] <cfhowlett> utsav, good detective work, Lou!  happy2help!
[09:25] <ObrienDave> feurd, lmgtfy    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F243639%2Fctrlspace-has-been-bound-to-invoke-some-input-method-and-does-not-work-in-ema&ei=G7WnVMD1Oou2ogS6s4CoAg&usg=AFQjCNHn7COEWzVeBycQ1kILr6Hrb7_QpQ&sig2=rVfn6hv3ucV6o6-SGsa1Rg
[09:25] <iLoveJava> bazhang, rtorrent
[09:26] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, as much as I enjoy, we don't use LMGTFY in this channel.
[09:27] <feurd> ObrienDave: Thanks. I've seen this page, but it uses the Unity DE functionalities. I'm using I3, so I would need a solution command-line based.
[09:27] <iLoveJava> sorry, 2g internet dropped
[09:27] <bazhang> iLoveJava, its in the repos why not install from there
[09:28] <bazhang> !info rtorrent
[09:28] <Loshki> iLoveJava: and why must it be a static build?
[09:28] <iLoveJava> could someone please help me.. how to statically build rtorrent from source?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> iLoveJava, several people have asked you questions --- ignored questions >>> ignore your request
[09:30] <m1dnight_> guys, if I were to install a VM on my ubuntu of Windows
[09:30] <m1dnight_> How does one configure that? Initial RDP setup etc?
[09:30] <m1dnight_> A vanilla windows install has no way of being accessed, no?
[09:31] <Alphakarem> no .. you need to manually enable RDP on windows
[09:31] <Alphakarem> you can console into it though to enable that
[09:31] <Alphakarem> you can also install a VNC server on the windows VM
[09:32] <iLoveJava> I have a remote shell where apt-get or similar tools are not available. So it is a huge headache to get the dependencies right. Also, I cannot install libraries in standard locations. So the only way I have is build a self contained executable with all the dependencies
[09:32] <iLoveJava> cfhowlett, sorry that was because my connection dropped
[09:32] <cfhowlett> iLoveJava, got it.
[09:32] <wafflej0ck> m1dnight_, don't know what you mean, if you install in virtualbox you have the GUI what's the problem
[09:33] <m1dnight_> oh hold on, kvm has a remote GUI manager thingy
[09:33] <m1dnight_> that's what I needed
[09:33] <m1dnight_> I think I've got it
[09:33] <wafflej0ck> m1dnight_, ah okay kvm... yeah haven't used that
[09:33] <Alphakarem> KVM is what I use and yes it has a GUI app
[09:34] <wafflej0ck> iLoveJava, https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent/blob/master/README <-- pretty much probably follow this, typical steps to build are ./configure, make, make install, not sure about this autogen.sh script
[09:34] <Alphakarem> Virtual Machine Manager is the name
[09:34] <iLoveJava> wafflej0ck, but they donot build statically linked executables. do they?
[09:36] <Loshki> iLoveJava: if it's a fairly standard package, there *may* be a configure script and it *might* have a 'link statically' option. If those don't exist, then you will have to go into the Makefiles and change the compiler options to generate static libraries and then link them statically. If you're going to be doing a lot of this, you might as well get used to it.
[09:36] <iLoveJava> Loshki, do you mean ./configure ?
[09:37] <Loshki> iLoveJava: yes I do. What does ./configure --help say about libraries/linking?
[09:38] <wafflej0ck> yup will let Loshki take it from here since I've moved into web dev and had to google to get that answer
[09:38] <wafflej0ck> know you can use ldd to check the linked files but had completely forgotten about how to link them into the executable
[09:38] <Loshki> no problem
[09:43] <iLoveJava> thanks Loshki, I am trying enable static option now
[09:43] <m1dnight_> hrm, the virt-manager does not detect my ssh keys
[09:43] <m1dnight_> ssh u@host.com works fine, but when I try to use it in virt-manager it doesnt find my key
[09:43] <m1dnight_> any ideas?
[09:44] <m1dnight_> "Cannot recv data: Permission denied (publickey).: Connection reset by peer"
[09:46] <m1dnight_> oh, I had to to not run it as root and chown the .virt-manager directory in my home
[09:47] <lorenzo_> gg
[09:59] <yourbeau> do you know what to do if you volume drops to 50 percent after a while when you play a video ?
[10:03] <yourbeau> do you know what to do if you volume drops to 50 percent after a while when you play a video ?
[10:13] <vkkhurava> Hi, My wifi not working, its not getting detected & also not scanning any available wifi connection
[10:14] <vkkhurava> please help, I also tried to connect using hidden wifi connection but that also not working
[10:16] <jatt> vkkhurava: did you try with wicd?
[10:18] <heap> hi
[10:18] <heap> when i connect my harddrive inside enclosure over usb to my laptop i got error : http://pastie.org/9810726
[10:19] <heap> i run badblock, fsck, smartool and i havent got any error
[10:20] <heap> it still says end_request: critical target error, dev sdb, sector 1464076376
[10:20] <heap> any idea? thanks
[10:21] <vkkhurava> Jatt: its saying no command found
[10:22] <vkkhurava> I am seating on same machine using Lan.
[10:22] <ObrienDave> vkkhurava, that usually means you have to install the command. sudo apt-get install wicd
[10:24] <glenn_> why canb't i install swat sambatool
[10:25] <bekks> glenn_: We dont know. How do you try?
[10:25] <vkkhurava> I installed that and after running command its saying its seems like daemon running and if not remove some file in a location
[10:26] <glenn_> sudo apt-get instal samba smbfs samba-doc swat xinetd
[10:27] <vkkhurava> I am using deepin linux -- Linux VKKHPG6 3.13.0-43-generic #72-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 8 19:35:06 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:28] <ObrienDave> vkkhurava, ok, this is UBUNTU support. i'm not sure we can help you here
[10:29] <bekks> glenn_: And what happens?
[10:30] <glenn_> bekks o no install
[10:30] <bekks> glenn_: "o no install" is no error message I've seen yet. Pastebin the entire output of your command please and pastebin the URL.
[10:32] <glenn_> bekks what is the commando to start swat
[10:32] <bekks> glenn_: It should be automatically started, since it is a daemon.
[10:33] <jatt> vkkhurava: wicd is an alternative for network-manager. usually is more reliable
[10:33] <glenn_> how to open swat bekks
[10:34] <ronca> I am having serious trouble with Xubuntu software-center.
[10:35] <ObrienDave> ronca, okaaaaay, what kind of trouble?
[10:36] <ronca> Software-center and other update software would crash in Xubuntu. I tried re-installing Xubuntu and found that software-center would "fail" after I used it to install packages over 100 MB in size.
[10:36] <bekks> glenn_: Open http://localhost:901 in your browser.
[10:36] <glenn_> bekks wont start
[10:37] <bekks> glenn_: "wont start" is not a recognized error message. What happens?
[10:39] <glenn_> noting can't connect
[10:39] <ObrienDave> ronca, try, sudo apt-get install -reinstall software-center
[10:40] <vkkhurava> Jatt: then how can i run wicd
[10:41] <ObrienDave> vkkhurava, install and run wicd-gtk
[10:41] <ronca> When I try the reinstall as you said, I get "E: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall] is not known."
[10:42] <ObrienDave> ronca, try, sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center
[10:42] <Cord_> Hello everyone! I created live usb with latest ubuntu kylin on my 8 gb usb and used 2gb for persistence mode, the problem is it doesn't work.
[10:42] <ObrienDave> ronca, two dashes, sorry
[10:42] <Cord_> I found fix, to add "persistence" in grub.cfg but there's no such file in /boot/grub
[10:44] <jatt> vkkhurava: install it with apt-get wicd
[10:46] <vkkhurava> Jatt: I installed that GUI but still its not getting detect my wifi
[10:48] <jatt> pastebin the wicd.log
[10:48] <ronca> ObrienDave: That seems to have done something. I am trying to use software-center to install LibreOffice. So far it seems to be working. Thank you. The test will take some time to finish.
[10:48] <jatt> and ifconfig
[10:49] <vkkhurava> Jatt: what is the location of wicd.log
[10:49] <ObrienDave> ronca, in terminal type, sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[10:50] <jatt> vkkhurava: /var/log/wicd i think
[10:50] <ObrienDave> ronca, terminal commands can save a LOT of headaches with GUI programs
[10:51] <ronca> Software-center is still downloading LibreOffice packages. It may work. I may use apt-get directly if software-center fails. When I tried apt-get directly before re-installing Xubuntu, apt-get failed. Now it seems to work.
[10:52] <ObrienDave> ronca, things get borked all the time. glad it's working, so far :)
[10:54] <vkkhurava> Jatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664408/
[10:54] <ronca> ObrienDave: My main reason for using the GUI was its help in finding the right packages, alternatives and supplementary packages.
[10:55] <jatt> vkkhurava: can you try
[10:55] <jatt> sudo rfkill unblock all
[10:55] <jatt> ?
[10:55] <vkkhurava> ok
[10:56] <vkkhurava> Jatt: nothing happen
[10:56] <jatt> and then try to connect
[10:56] <jatt> and also pastebin sudo ifconfig
[10:56] <ronca> ObrienDave: Thank you. The GUI is taking a long time. Part of that is my Internet connection is through a cell-phone network, and part of the slowness is due to the supplemental packages the GUI added into the download by default.
[10:56] <ObrienDave> ronca, apt-get's job is to find the right packages and dependencies. as for supplements, that's a little tougher from CLI
[10:57] <vkkhurava> Jatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664423/
[10:57] <ronca> ObrienDave: Maybe I should be using apt-get directly most of the time.
[10:58] <ObrienDave> ronca, what you call supplementary, are known as dependencies
[10:58] <weecol> !latest
[10:59] <ronca> ObrienDave: Actually I was talking about the optional extras. Some of them are very useful. Some are not.
[10:59] <ObrienDave> true
[11:00] <Lucax> So if I get this right, is there nothing called img alt tag anymore?
[11:02] <ObrienDave> wrong channel???
[11:04] <ronca> ObrienDave: Well, I see another reason for using apt-get directly: the GUI is still running and doesn't show me enough messages to know details of its progress.
[11:05] <ObrienDave> ronca, you can also use synaptic package manager. it can show you the terminal output
[11:10] <vkkhurava> Can anyone please help me on wifi issue on my laptop
[11:12] <ronca> vkkhurava: Tell everyone what operating system you have.
[11:13] <ObrienDave> deepin IIRC
[11:13] <ronca> ObrienDave: I notice that I don't have synaptic package manager installed. I can use the GUI or apt-get to get it.
[11:13] <vkkhurava> its Deepin 2014.2
[11:14] <ObrienDave> ronca, both will do
[11:14] <ObrienDave> ronca, in terminal type, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:15] <ronca> ObrienDave: I guess I can do apt-get even while the GUI is still downloading LibreOffice.
[11:16] <ronin> what is this suppose to do seq $((2015/2))
[11:17] <ObrienDave> ronca, it's best not to
[11:17] <EriC^^> ronin: type it in a terminal and see
[11:17] <ObrienDave> ronca, you can only run one instance of apt-get at a time
[11:17] <ronin> EriC^^, the terminal doesnt tell you what it does
[11:17] <ronin> EriC^^, i know the output
[11:18] <ronin> it prints integers until 1007
[11:18] <EriC^^> ronin: yes
[11:18] <ronin> hmm
[11:18] <rypervenche> !flash
[11:18] <ronin> why does it need to be $(())
[11:18] <ronca> ObrienDave: That is right. The GUI is using apt-get and has a lock on resources it uses.
[11:18] <EriC^^> $$(()) evaluates the expression 2015/2
[11:19] <EriC^^> *$(())
[11:19] <ronin> ok
[11:19] <ronin> thanks
[11:19] <EriC^^> ronin: you can get the same with seq 1007
[11:19] <ObrienDave> ronca, :) you're learning :)
[11:20] <ObrienDave> ronca, the point is, the GUI programs still use apt-get to do the actual work of installing :)
[11:21] <war10ck> my phones is not getting recognized as file system in ubuntu ? any way to resolve this issue ?
[11:22] <ObrienDave> war10ck, what kind of phone?
[11:22] <war10ck> ObrienDave, android .
[11:22] <war10ck> ObrienDave, its actually motorola moto g
[11:22] <csrgxtu> test
[11:23] <war10ck> ObrienDave, any idea how to fix this issue ?
[11:23] <ObrienDave> war10ck, sudo apt-get install mtp-tools
[11:23] <war10ck> i cant connect it via my usb cable.its very annoying :(
[11:23] <war10ck> ObrienDave, what does it actually do ?
[11:24] <ObrienDave> you have to use MTP to tranfer files to android phones
[11:24] <ObrienDave> Media Transfer Protocol
[11:24] <war10ck> ObrienDave, ok. MTP stands for ?
[11:24] <ObrienDave> ^^
[11:25] <zxc98001> .
[11:25] <war10ck> ObrienDave, lemme try,
[11:26] <ObrienDave> war10ck, also try, sudo apt-get install mtpfs
[11:27] <war10ck> ObrienDave, not working.
[11:28] <war10ck> ObrienDave, tried both
[11:28] <ObrienDave> try a relog
[11:28] <war10ck> :-(
[11:28] <war10ck> ObrienDave, ok.
[11:29] <csrgxtu> i am starting using Arch Linux
[11:29] <csrgxtu> u guys dont have problem with that arnt u
[11:30] <war10ck> ObrienDave, still no change.
[11:30] <ObrienDave> war10ck, try disconnecting the phone and plugging back in
[11:30] <war10ck> ObrienDave, tried that already !
[11:31] <ObrienDave> hmmm, thinking (smell the wood burning??) ;P
[11:31] <war10ck> ObrienDave, ;)
[11:33] <ObrienDave> war10ck, i dunno, i just plug my SGS5 in and away I go
[11:33] <war10ck> ObrienDave, any suggestions ?
[11:34] <ObrienDave> reboot as a last resort
[11:34] <war10ck> ObrienDave, ok. thanks for the information mate ! cheers
[11:34] <ObrienDave> you sure your phone is in MTP mode?
[11:35] <ObrienDave> try a different cable,
[11:35] <war10ck> yeah. Its connected as MTP
[11:35] <ObrienDave> oh, it says it's connected as a media device?
[11:35] <war10ck> ObrienDave, yes.
[11:36] <ObrienDave> okay, then it should show up on the desktop as an unmounted device
[11:36] <war10ck> ObrienDave, it has only windows support? i tried it on windows and its woking.
[11:36] <ObrienDave> naw, i do both all the time
[11:37] <war10ck> ObrienDave, confused what is causing the problem.
[11:37] <ObrienDave> war10ck, check xda-developers, those forums are really good. probably the best
[11:38] <war10ck> ObrienDave, okay ! i will have a look then.
[11:38] <war10ck> ObrienDave, thank you for your time !
[11:38] <war10ck> ObrienDave, :)
[11:38] <ObrienDave> not a problem
[11:44] <flyme> hi
[11:45] <ronca> ObrienDave: Now I have tried software-center, synaptic and apt-get directly. Each has its nice features. Thank you. Everything seems to work now.
[11:47] <ObrienDave> ronca, most welcome
[11:53] <marian_> you tube
[11:53] <marian_> admin
[11:53] <ikonia> ?
[11:54] <ArcherReilly> you tube what
[11:55] <ObrienDave> admin ;P
[12:03] <kj_> I have installed many application which I myself don't know.... now I want to remove them all... please help me with this
[12:03] <kj_> I have installed many application which I myself don't know.... now I want to remove them all... please help me with this
[12:04] <ObrienDave> !patience | kj_
[12:04] <jatt> kj_: try debfoster
[12:04] <kj_> ubottu thanks for replying :)
[12:04] <ikonia> kj_: open the package manager, find the software you don't want and click "remove"
[12:12] <earl_> Hello
[12:12] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[12:12] <earl_> I have just reinstalled ubuntu, and I do not understand anything any more
[12:13] <earl_> Is there a way to get a taskbar with all my running applications?
[12:14] <kaste> Hey, ubuntu noob here. I seem to have issues with reconnecting to the network after a suspend. The network manager only gives me the option to enable the network but then doesn't show any wireless offers. What could be wrong here?
[12:15] <earl_> kaste, can you run iwconfig wlan0 and ifconfig wlan0 to see the state of your adapter?
[12:16] <kaste> I rebooted so they are working again
[12:17] <kaste> I could suspend now but then it'd take a full cycle to give you the result
[12:17] <mieayam> earl_: no you cant, some app run without gui
[12:17] <earl_> mieayam, ok, but how about the apps that run with gui. right now I have firefox, a couple of terminals and xchat open. The taskbar on top only show the current application
[12:18] <ObrienDave> are they all in the same workspace?
[12:18] <earl_> yup
[12:19] <mieayam> i believe latest ubuntu have sidebar/taskbar in left, not top
[12:19] <mieayam> checkout in the bottom of sidebar ...
[12:19] <kaste> is there an easy way to restart the wireless on ubuntu btw?
[12:19] <mieayam> usually opened app stay there
[12:20] <earl_> kaste, I usually flick the laptop wireless button on and off
[12:20] <earl_> mieayam, I only have a bar on the top
[12:20] <kaste> I'll try that
[12:21] <earl_> mieayam, I also see that the windows lack the minimize, and fullscreen buttons...
[12:21] <mieayam> earl_: you know, i hate the new ubuntu sidebar too ... it's slower
[12:21] <earl_> since everything is so different from what I am used with, I have no clue on how it is supposed to be
[12:21] <kostkon> earl_, that's gnome-shell not unity
[12:21] <mieayam> but if you want taskbar in top: maybe you should install gnome/kde
[12:22] <mieayam> or xubuntu
[12:22] <kostkon> earl_, you are using ubuntu-gnome not vanilla ubuntu
[12:22] <earl_> I installed the LTS standard ubuntu
[12:22] <earl_> I try to install gnome, and perhaps things get back to normal again :)
[12:23] <kostkon> earl_, more likely ubuntu-gnome for some reason
[12:23] <ikonia> gnome 3 behaves the same as unity in terms of task bar
[12:23] <ikonia> so that will not change anything
[12:24] <earl_> brb, trying gnome3, perhaps I will find a taskbar application that work with gnome
[12:24] <kostkon> earl_, click on Activities on the top left and it will show the launcher / dock
[12:25] <ikonia> nice job on not listening
[12:25] <ikonia> gnome 3 task bar works the same as unity....
[12:25] <ikonia> there is an extension for it, but that can also be used with unity
[12:25] <ikonia> why listen to a simple fix when you can go and change your whole desktop software for no reason
[12:26] <ObrienDave> you can lead a horse to water, but if you gat him to float on his back, you've really got something there! ;P
[12:27] <ObrienDave> *get
[12:28] <pa> hi
[12:28] <pa> i'd need some help to compile myself the packages for kernel 3.17 on 14.04.. i see that on kernel.ubuntu.com there are binaries, but where can i find the source pkgs?
[12:29] <ikonia> pa: why do you need 3.17 and why do you need to recompile it yourself
[12:29] <netcrash> Hello, how can I use the right click + ALT drag and resize in ubuntu like Mate and Xfce ?
[12:29] <pa> ikonia, because i want to patch it with nDPI and IMQ support
[12:29] <pa> and sadly it seems that for both of these, they skipped 3.16
[12:30] <ikonia> pa: but ubuntu is not using the 3.17 kernel
[12:30] <ikonia> 3.16 is the current lastest one it's supported with
[12:30] <pa> yes, that's why i'm here asking :) i found some resources online explaining how to install 3.17 on 14.04, but from binaries
[12:30] <pa> while i need to recompile it
[12:31] <ikonia> do you know how to recompile a kernel ?
[12:31] <pa> yes. however i'd prefer to use ubuntu source packages, and create .debs of the kernel
[12:31] <GBadWolf> Query - Ubuntu 14.10 install on Asus board - USB not working (3.0 ports will boot, but no HID)
[12:31] <ikonia> pa: are you sure you don't want the ndpi module ?
[12:31] <pa> to avoid using a vanilla kernel
[12:31] <ikonia> rather than the full kernel
[12:32] <pa> ikonia, well, no. i'm not sure.. i thought i have to patch the kernel to use the nDPI modue
[12:32] <pa> module
[12:32] <ikonia> I thought there was a drop in module for it, I could be wrong thoug
[12:32] <ikonia> though
[12:32] <pa> i found a russian howto here: http://a7lanov.blogspot.it/
[12:32] <ikonia> pa: apt-get source $package-name will get the source package you want though
[12:33] <pa> ikonia, yes. do you think i can use the 3.17.3 source in vivid with 14.04?
[12:33] <yourbeau> does someone knows about an issue where headphones is detected by pulseaudio where you have none plugged in ; it happens on and off and then breaks audio via speakers
[12:33] <ikonia> pa: well no, as there is no 3.17 kernel for ubuntu
[12:33] <ikonia> pa: so I don't know where you're planning to get these kernel sources form
[12:33] <ikonia> for
[12:33] <ikonia> from
[12:33] <pa> ikonia, ah so, these must be unofficial then: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.17.3-vivid/
[12:34] <ikonia> pa: they are mainline - unpatched vanilla sources
[12:34] <vivid> id say kernel.ubuntu.com is official
[12:34] <pa> ah i see
[12:34] <ikonia> hence "mainline"
[12:34] <yourbeau> are there any multi-touch or touch gesture options in Ubuntu ?
[12:34] <pa> hm..
[12:34] <pa> okay then, i'll stick to 3.13 for now
[12:35] <pa> ikonia, do you know whether 3.17 is going to be available for 14.04 too?
[12:35] <ikonia> pa: very much doubt it
[12:35] <ikonia> certainly not until a disto using it is released and it is backported as part of the HWE
[12:36] <pa> hm i see
[12:36] <pa> thanks
[12:38] <csrgxtu> who am i
[12:38] <cfhowlett> csrgxtu, do that in your terminal: whoami
[12:39] <cfhowlett> yourbeau, supported to an extent but not ready for primetime.  depends mostly on OEM support so ...
[12:40] <kostkon> pa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support   15.04 comes with 3.18  still alpha though
[12:41] <m1dnight_> guys, could anyone help me out with creating a bridge?
[12:41] <m1dnight_> I'm breaking things over and over again :p
[12:42] <m1dnight_> I ahve p5p1 as my host NIC which has ip 192.168.1.130
[12:42] <m1dnight_> I want to create a bridge for a KVM client to give it ip 192.168.1.131
[12:42] <m1dnight_> (Or atm, try and get one from the DHCP server)
[12:42] <yourbeau> cfhowlett, ok
[12:42] <m1dnight_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[12:42] <m1dnight_> I followed this tutorial but it doenst get me anywhere..
[12:42] <pa> kostkon, thanks, very informative. let's hope in .3 then :)
[12:43] <Kshjl> Question: Why does Apache starts as root-user and not www-data?
[12:43] <ikonia> it doesn't
[12:43] <m1dnight_> http://pastebin.com/F6MgQqZz This is my current network file
[12:43] <ikonia> it starts as root and forks child processes
[12:43] <kostkon> pa, yeah, it could easily happen
[12:45] <Kshjl> ikonia: Well, I am beginner and don't really understand this construction. Can you say me why Apache has to start as root etc.?
[12:45] <ikonia> Kshjl: because it needs to take a socket to the network interface
[12:45] <ikonia> Kshjl: it's not something you need to be really concerened about, the apache process actually does not run as root
[12:46] <Kshjl> ikonia: Thank you for your help. What means 'take a socket to the network interface'?
[12:46] <ikonia> it needs to bind a process to a network card
[12:48] <csrgxtu> oh, i got it, i am a orc
[12:48] <m1dnight_> anyone?
[12:48] <Kshjl> ikonia: Is there a possibility in Ubuntu to watch which daemons had been started as root?
[12:48] <ikonia> to watch them ?
[12:50] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
[12:50] <ObrienDave> waves
[12:50] <Kshjl> ikonia: Is there a command with I can see all daemons which had been started as root
[12:50] <ikonia> ps -ef | grep root
[12:51] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj_, tip of ye ole fedora to you
[12:51] <BluesKaj_> Hi cfhowlett , how goes it ?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj_, still in the rat race.  view has not improved
[12:53] <BluesKaj_> cfhowlett, keep up the good work :)
[12:54] <ObrienDave> it's called "the rat race" because the rats keep winning ;P
[13:01] <Lorthirk> hello. I think I need some help troubleshooting my ubuntu 14.10... from time to time the X server freezes, so I have to do a ctrl+f2 and then back with ctrl+f7 to unfreeze it. can I have some clue?
[13:06] <souliaq> Hi, I'm using standard Ubuntu 14.04, and I want some kind of menu that show me the apps in the traditional categories.
[13:08] <cfhowlett> souliaq, unity really doesn't work that.  xfce will give you a "traditional" menu
[13:08] <cfhowlett> as would lubuntu
[13:10] <kostkon> souliaq, in the dash you can click on the apps scope and then on filter results
[13:12] <kostkon> souliaq, there's also the classic menu indicator http://www.florian-diesch.de/software/classicmenu-indicator/
[13:16] <hariom> I have added an init script. Ran the update-rc.d command to run it after reboot (ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664927/) but after reboot it doesn't run. Manually it runs fine.
[13:16] <hariom> Here is my init script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664956/
[13:18] <xchatter> Anybody knows the meaning of the GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK= option in the /etc/default/grub file?
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | hariom
[13:18] <hariom> lotuspsychje: Yea, I know but lets solve the issue in hand
[13:19] <hariom> lotuspsychje: The init script comes from the package provider so I am going with it
[13:24] <hariom> lotuspsychje: Any idea why there is problem in the script (pls see the links shared)
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> hariom: maybe this can help mate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/388434/celeryd-not-running-at-startup
[13:29] <hariom> lotuspsychje: Already followed these but still the same problem. it runs manually but not after reboot
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> hmm thats weird
[13:30] <hariom> lotuspsychje: But the same script and same process works on another server
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> hariom: can you find any logs with error?
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> hariom: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:30] <hariom> lotuspsychje: no errors in log
[13:30] <hariom> 12.04
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> hariom: pstree doesnt show celeryd ?
[13:32] <hariom> lotuspsychje: no. pstree doesn't show celeryd
[13:33] <LogicalDash> apt-get is telling me "E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages". My first impulse is to try and delete the file in question, is it safe?
[13:33] <glenn> why will samba graphic tools won't start after giving the paswoord
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> hariom: not sure mate, im out of ideas
[13:37] <ursnation> is any1 alive here?
[13:38] <ObrienDave> nope, all dead
[13:38] <yourbeau> sup
[13:38] <yourbeau> is Ubuntu the most secure linux distro ever ?
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> LogicalDash: did you try apt-get clean and apt-get update?
[13:39] <LogicalDash> lotuspsychje: I moved that bad list out of the way and ran an update and now it's fine
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: security is very relevant, depens on the user really
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> !yay | LogicalDash
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> !security | yourbeau
[13:40] <yourbeau> lotuspsychje, ok, I am on Trisquel 7 and planning to switch
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: there are packages to install for ubuntu, to tighten your security
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: ubuntu 14.04 is very reccomended to install
[13:40] <yourbeau> lotuspsychje, ok but Ubuntu GNome or unity which one is better ?
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: thats your flavor to choose
[13:41] <yourbeau> I have no seen a single Ubuntu Gnome review or video
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: i find unity very intuitive to use, but thats personal
[13:41] <yourbeau> so I was asking
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: if you like the gnome style, go for ubuntu gnome
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: it all depends what your gonna be doing with your system
[13:45] <yourbeau> lotuspsychje, i like Trisquel so much
[13:45] <yourbeau> but graphics sucks
[13:46] <colbert> is trisquel from slackware?
[13:47] <yourbeau> ubuntu
[13:47] <cfhowlett> yourbeau, your system, your choice.  if you set your system based on the needs and preferences of others, you're gonna have a bad time;
[13:47] <colbert> why the bad graphics?
[13:48] <souliaq> thanks kostkon, apt-get install classicmenu-indicator, solved my problem.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> yourbeau, download ubuntu.  make a bootable USB.  boot USB and test for yourself.
[13:48] <yourbeau> colbert, no non-free user subjugating software in Trisquel complete free software
[13:48] <kostkon> souliaq, :)
[13:48] <yourbeau> cfhowlett, ok thanks
[13:50] <colbert> yourbeau: if you like ubuntu, find the right desktop for you
[13:51] <yourbeau> colbert, I like Trisquel's GNU so much too I wish we could install some graphics but it would actually ruin the whole concept of Trisquel
[13:51] <colbert> no graphics, as like video?
[13:52] <glenn> wy can't i see other linux desktops on the network
[13:53] <reaperblade> Hey guys, having some issues with recording on a mic the hardware works in windows so it isn't the hardware I'm running 14.04 it is connected via the optical port on my sound card
[13:53] <reaperblade> I can receive audio just fine though
[13:54] <BluesKaj_> what are you using to look on the network , glenn`
[14:00] <Alphakarem> I have aproblem with a new kernel i installed
[14:01] <Alphakarem> no matter what I do to install kernel 3.13.0-43-generic and after teh reboot I run uname -r and still get the older version
[14:02] <Alphakarem> what can i do to fix this ?
[14:03] <ObrienDave> try uname -a
[14:03] <Prezident> yes
[14:03] <Alphakarem> still shows the same old version
[14:03] <m1dnight_> guys, I've got my kvm up and running but when I enable KVM the internet is gone on my virtual machine
[14:03] <m1dnight_> any tips on what to do?
[14:04] <ObrienDave> then 0-43 is not running
[14:04] <geirha> Alphakarem: does   sudo update-grub    find it?
[14:04] <Alphakarem> how can i get it to run ?
[14:04] <ObrienDave> look up ^^
[14:05] <Alphakarem> yes it does ObrienDave
[14:06] <ObrienDave> you mean geirha ;p
[14:06] <Alphakarem> m1dnight_, when you load KVM, do you also lose internet on the host or just the VM ?
[14:07] <ObrienDave> ok, reboot for 0-43 kernel to load
[14:08] <Alphakarem> ObrienDave, I did reboot many many times ... I have tried apt-get install Linux-headers Linux-image Linux-image-extra as well
[14:08] <ObrienDave> ok, as a last resort look into grub-customizer. it's from a PPA and sort of unsupported here
[14:10] <geirha> Alphakarem: do you see it in the grub menu when you boot?
[14:10] <norinder99> Hi, rsync --link-dest=DIR doesn't seem to hard-link snapshots (DIR is left untouched).  What could be the problem?   I know that something is happening as rsync complains if an invalid directory is given as link-dest.  My script with full options: http://pastebin.com/F1419vRn
[14:10]  * h4x0r-hacker away #hacker.cafe Welcome l33t Hacker 
[14:11] <Alphakarem> i dunno how to get to the menu ? but when I cat grub.cfg it's there
[14:12] <feurd> Hi. I'm trying to connect my desktop top my laptop with ssh. But I have the message "ssh_exchange_identification: read: COnnection reset by peer". If I understood correctly, it seems that the server (my laptop) refuses the connection. How can I check what's wrong?
[14:12] <ObrienDave> Alphakarem, try shift when booting
[14:12] <Alphakarem> feurd, check if sshd is runnin ?
[14:13] <ObrienDave> Alphakarem, hold shift when booting
[14:13] <feurd> Alphakarem: How can I check that?
[14:13] <ObrienDave> Alphakarem, press shift when booting
[14:13] <ObrienDave> one of those lol
[14:13] <Alphakarem> I will reboot now ObrienDave and report back .. thank you
[14:14] <Alphakarem> feurd, service ssh status
[14:14] <feurd> Alphakarem: it's running
[14:14] <reaperblade> feurd, service ssh restart does that throw an error?
[14:14] <glenn> what is the best way to setup a network between 2 linux desktops
[14:15] <Alphakarem> then from the other machine run ssh username@hostname-or-IP and that should ask you to verify the connection
[14:15] <feurd> reaperblade: Yes it does
[14:15] <BluesKaj_> glenn, just to access shared files or...?
[14:16] <reaperblade> feurd, what error does it throw?
[14:16] <feurd> reaperblade: I'm trying to find a way to paste it here (its displayed on my other computer)
[14:19] <m1dnight_> -I FORWARD -m physdev --physdev-is-bridged -j ACCEPT
[14:20] <m1dnight_> is that no longer valid for ubuntu 14.04?
[14:22] <glenn> blueskaj yes
[14:23] <glenn> why see i only one linux en not my other
[14:25] <feurd> reaperblade: Here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9665282/
[14:25] <lackmann> #brasil
[14:25] <reaperblade> feurd, looking now
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !br | lackmann
[14:27] <leeyaa> hello
[14:27] <leeyaa> who on precise i cant start corosync with sudo service corosync start ( it produces no output or errors at all )
[14:28] <reaperblade> feurd, just to ask something silly mate you are doing this as sudo yeah? And have sudo access
[14:28] <feurd> reaperblade: I have sudo access, but I'm not creating the connection in sudo
[14:29] <reaperblade> yeah well looking up the error I found this it seems to indicate a permissions issue have a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112916 that said I'll keep looking if i can
[14:29] <feurd> reaperblade: It worked before, without sudo. Now, I just established a NFS connection, maybe it interferes
[14:30] <Alphakarem> feurd, firewall issue ?
[14:30] <feurd> Alphakarem: I don't know, I never touched the firewall (if I have one)
[14:31] <reaperblade> feurd, or even a port issue (unlikely) has anything changed or updated recently?
[14:31] <feurd> This connection worked perfectly until I set up a NFS connection as well.
[14:31] <reaperblade> ah are you using the default ports for ssh and NFS?
[14:32] <feurd> But I never changed anything (as far as I know) with port connections
[14:32] <feurd> reaperblade: Probably yes
[14:33] <reaperblade> feurd, if you kill the service that runs nfs does that allow sshd to restart and run correctly?
[14:34] <feurd> How can I stop nfs? I followed a tutorial to start a connection, but they don't explain how to close it...
[14:37] <reaperblade> what command was used to start NFS? service nfs start or something else? I'm not hugely familiar with nfs but shouldn't be too hard to figure out
[14:37] <keithclark> via command line, how do I copy the contents of one directory to another directory?
[14:37] <feurd> Could it be nfs-kernel-server stop ?
[14:37] <shuman> keithclark: man cp
[14:38] <keithclark> shuman, I tried that but then I get 'permission denied'
[14:38] <keithclark> shuman, I tried
[14:38] <shuman> keithclark: try with sudo
[14:38] <shuman> if you have such permissions ;)
[14:39] <keithclark> shuman, this does not seem to work.  Argument list too long
[14:39] <xchatter> Is it possible to reinstall ubuntu but use an existing encrypted LVM on sda2 ?
[14:39] <shuman> keithclark: sudo cp dir1/* dir2 ?
[14:40] <feurd> ohoh... I typed the command below, and now I can't see the content of the place my folder was.
[14:40] <shuman> keithclark: if you want to copy whole dir with content, then sudo cp dir1 dir2 -R
[14:41] <shuman> it will copy dir1 into dir2
[14:41] <shuman> and all its subdirectories as well
[14:41] <keithclark> shuman, no, I just cannot seem to be able to copy these files!
[14:41] <reaperblade> feurd, more than likely most software has very similar command structure (I come more from a centos background) eg to check restart stop or start a service it is almost always systemctl ssh status
[14:41] <reaperblade> etc etc
[14:42] <shuman> !paste keithclark
[14:42] <keithclark> shuman, nautilus locks up
[14:42] <reaperblade> systemctl sshd status
[14:42] <shuman> hehe
[14:42] <shuman> keithclark: you're trying to copy that from nautilus or cmd?
[14:43]  * h4x0r-hacker say hi all
[14:43] <keithclark> shuman, I tried nautilus but it locks up.  30 000 files.
[14:43] <shuman> if from command line, then maybe try to close nautilus window
[14:44] <keithclark> ok, i'm in the directory that I want the files to be copied from.  I want them to be copied to one directory above this one.  How to do this from the command line?
[14:45] <Styluss> alguem poderia me ajudar
[14:46] <DJones> !pt | Styluss
[14:47] <Styluss> me desculpe e que lah ninguem responde
[14:48] <zetheroo1> how would I troubleshoot this problem: Chrome and Chromium cause my screen to go black and my system to crash in both Ubuntu 14.04 and Mint 17.1
[14:48] <Styluss> someone could help me with the Linux partitions
[14:48] <shuman> keithclark: let's go prv, I'll try to guide you from there, ok?
[14:48] <Mosl> Who decides which packages will be in the next Ubuntu release and when will the decisions finalized?
[14:49] <Wulframn> Styluss: what issues are you having?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | Mos1
[14:49] <feurd> reaperblade: I see how to stop the nfs server, but I think I should umount the folder on my desktop first. And I don't know how to do that
[14:50] <Styluss> I am trying to create the partitions (`/` 100 GB / boot with 4GB, / tmp with 70GB, / srv with 90GB, / var with 70GB, / swap with 20gb and the / home with 350GB) and a partition for Linux and windows to save the FAT32 things 300GB so that after everything done and not linux installed it carries the HD [and 1TB
[14:51] <feurd> reaperblade: When I try, it says 'umount.nfs: device is busy'
[14:51] <reaperblade> feurd, sorry mate I'm not experienced with NFS so I wouldn't know
[14:51] <reaperblade> :(
[14:52] <feurd> reaperblade: Ok no problem
[14:53] <colbert> Styluss: 20gb of swap? that's a lot
[14:56] <Styluss> colbert: from what I read, should not be double and then some of the memory
[14:57] <Styluss> colbert: think and why not carry?
[15:00] <AA> Irc.oltreirc.net
[15:00] <EriC^^> Styluss: should be as big as the ram if you want hibernation, it depends on your use though as well
[15:01] <colbert> Styluss: ok, i may have to change mine, i have 8gb of ram and I did 1200M of swap
[15:02] <colbert> according to a guide i'm seeing now i should have the equal amount of swap
[15:03] <Styluss> colbert: will be that and why not carry? and the size of the partitions are good?
[15:06] <colbert> Styluss: i do it simple, /boot /swap / /home...never done srv var...
[15:08] <Styluss> colbert: plus not srv [and an important partition should be separated? how to make this division in a HD 1TB? remembering that I want to make a FAT32 partition to 300GB to be seen by linux and windows
[15:11] <colbert> you can have only have 5 primary partitions, or 4, you need to extend it, or you can use LVM, but as i told you, i do it the simple way, someone will help you better than I :)
[15:11] <bekks> 4.
[15:13] <EriC^^> Styluss: why fat32? why not ntfs?
[15:15] <feurd> reaperblade: Well, I finally closed the nfs connection. But my ssh issue remain.
[15:19] <wad> I'm confused why this command doesn't work. I'm trying to copy recursively from one directory to a new one, but only *.CR2 files.
[15:19] <wad> rsync -r --include '*\.CR2$' ./unsorted ./t
[15:19] <wad> But it's copying all the files, not honoring my --include directive.
[15:19] <wad> What am I doing wrong?
[15:20]  * wad asks in #linux
[15:20] <bekks> rsync -av *.CR2 targetpath/
[15:21] <bekks> And your command works as expected: "copy ./unsorted to ./t and include all *.CR2 as well".
[15:22] <excelsiora> hi, was about to install from a thumbdrive (14.04), backed out of normal installation to "try Ubuntu", and the letters were glitching on the desktop in some cases, and continued back to install, letters were still glitching. Do I possibly have a bad thumbdrive?
[15:22] <wad> bekks, oh, I assumed that if something wasn't in the --include directive, it would be excluded.
[15:23] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | excelsiora, possible but I'd worry more about the media. verify 1. the .iso       2. the USB
[15:23] <excelsiora> I know the image was originally good, I used it for a prior install, but I'm replacing the harddrive and want to reuse it.
[15:24] <Naughtalus> Hello I have been led to believe I may be able to find assistance here
[15:24] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, you "know" means you actually verified the media ...
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !details | Naughtalus,
[15:25] <excelsiora> Yes, hash and everything, and also used it
[15:26] <Naughtalus> Awesome, so I am running 14.04 with an nvidia gtx670.  I want full screen applications to launch in the right hand screen.
[15:28] <Naughtalus> Setting my primary display in nvidia x configure does nothing, ediitng monitors.xml does nothing and changing which screen has the unity bar does nothing. the only thing that affects it is the sacred and holy left hand position
[15:29] <Naughtalus> cfhowlett i gave details
[15:30] <cfhowlett> !patience | Naughtalus
[15:31] <darkdrgn2k3> hey all
[15:31] <darkdrgn2k3> is there a way to read the progress of the ubuntu boot (init scripts?)
[15:31] <excelsiora> should I select encrypt my home folder?
[15:31] <bekks> excelsiora: If you have to ask that question, the most likely answer is "no".
[15:31] <excelsiora> I think yes, isn't that where user data, docs are?
[15:32] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, check your paranoia level and decide for yourself
[15:32] <excelsiora> Trying to do a best practice installation
[15:33] <cfhowlett> excelsiora, you can always encrypt it later if you want
[15:33] <excelsiora> ah I'm just going to do it. It has all morning to install
[15:33] <compdoc> there were problems with encrypting my home folder. Programs that I installed would try to read my home folder during boot, and fail miserably.
[15:36] <nelsk> Hi there, is there a standard env var to add an additional `PREFIX` like path specifically for make builds? I have my include/lib dir in an alternate location to the standard and I need to add them both to the search path.
[15:37] <SrPx> Is there any way to install dualboot ubuntu on OSX, except that, if I decide to, I can make it the only OS with 100% of the disk space?
[15:37] <SrPx> on macbook pro*
[15:39] <cfhowlett> SrPx, not at the same time.
[15:39] <SrPx> so if I install dualboot and decide to go 100% I have to reinstall everything?
[15:39] <cfhowlett> SrPx, alternate suggestion.  don't dual.
[15:40] <cfhowlett> SrPx, install virtualbox to OSX.  install ubuntu to virtualbox.
[15:40] <EriC^^> SrPx: you can delete the partition and extend the other one
[15:40] <esklabo2>  #chueca_euskadi
[15:40] <SrPx> okay thanks
[15:40] <paradisebunny> one quick question, i have two harddrives, one ssd which is my system disk and one HD with 2TB. the HD somehow has an EFI boot partition, can i safely delete this partition or is it necessary?
[15:40] <neopsyche> why .. oh why.. does NTFS networking have to be so complex on linux?
[15:40] <SrPx> I just had an awful experience with virtualbox performanacewise
[15:41] <neopsyche> i get the idea that its possibly due to some proprietary issues in microsaft design.
[15:41] <EriC^^> neopsyche: you ask very difficult questions.. :P
[15:41] <neopsyche> but.. something like .. have to create path in fstab using command shell, chmod.. etc etc.. create samba share.. but in windows.. right click.. share?
[15:41] <neopsyche> :-)
[15:42] <bekks> neopsyche: Whats "NTFS networking" all about? You are mixing up different technologies.
[15:42] <MV48> Hi all, I just bought a new Asus laptop and the wireless doesn't work with Ubuntu (can confirm the wireless works on Win 8.1). It's a Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 and `rfkill list all` shows nothing blocked (which concludes that the classic fn+f2 problem with Asus laptops isn't the cause). How do I get a driver for this? Linux headers?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> !samba | neopsyche,
[15:42] <excelsiora> 14.04 auto-install will automatically handle setting up a swap for me, right?
[15:42] <EriC^^> excelsiora: yes
[15:42] <excelsiora> cool
[15:43] <excelsiora> fsck to check the disk when it's done installing?
[15:43] <bekks> Why?
[15:43] <neopsyche> bekks. you are the ruler of the politically correct ubuntu user universe.  kindly now take a dump on the washington monument :-)
[15:43] <neopsyche> thanks cfhowlett
[15:44] <bekks> neopsyche: Whatever you are trying to express.
[15:44] <cfhowlett> neopsyche, happy2help!
[15:44] <neopsyche> bekks. perhaps i am just mixing it up a little ;-)
[15:44] <bekks> neopsyche: Just a little...
[15:45] <neopsyche> thanks bekks have a good day
[15:48] <glenn> how can i check if mij networkcard is good installed
[15:49] <bekks> glenn: Do you have a working network connection?
[15:49] <glenn> bekks yes
[15:50] <viju> What kernel version does ubuntu ship with it?
[15:50] <glenn> bekks form my pc i can ping the other by ip
[15:51] <viju> For me it shows - 3.2 But there was someone who said he got higher version than that.
[15:51] <bekks> glenn: So your network card is "installed good".
[15:51] <glenn> bekks but why can't i see them when i go to file->network
[15:53] <bekks> glenn: you cant see what and where (and why do you expect to see something there)?
[15:53] <glenn> lik i say
[15:53] <glenn> file browser
[15:53] <bekks> glenn: What do you expect to see there?
[15:53] <glenn> and there network
[15:54] <glenn> all the pc's on the network
[15:54] <bekks> glenn: Why would they show up there? You will see computers offering shares AND advertising them, there.
[15:55] <bekks> glenn: Whats your actual end goal?
[15:55] <glenn> ?
[15:57] <glenn> yes bekks
[15:57] <rpluto> Hi
[15:58] <rpluto> Can some one help me, i cant figured it out what script or configuration opens a session xorg
[15:59] <excelsiora> how do I check for my swap?
[16:01] <bparker> excelsiora: free
[16:02] <nomic> swap is a volume
[16:02] <nomic> or should be
[16:03] <glenn> how can i access a share on other pc
[16:12] <notfadssss> eric^^: you there buddy?
[16:15] <glenn> why can't i install swat samba any more
[16:18] <jimmy51v> anyone here use dyndns.org?
[16:19] <compdoc> jimmy51v, I do
[16:20] <jimmy51v> compdoc:  do you know which service is needed to point something like home.jimmy.com to my home IP?
[16:20] <compdoc> althought they are no longer dyndns.org. now theyre dyn.com
[16:20] <jimmy51v> i just bought the standard DNS service but i'm thinking I need something in addition to that to do what i'm wanting.
[16:20] <jimmy51v> yeah... it changed to dyn.com
[16:21] <compdoc> all you need to do is create the right records.
[16:21] <jimmy51v> ah... A records and CNAME and all that?
[16:21] <compdoc> I have www, ftp, phone, mail, etc
[16:22] <compdoc> home would be just one more
[16:22] <compdoc> you have their client running to watch for ip changes?
[16:23] <jimmy51v> ok
[16:23] <jimmy51v> i don't yet
[16:23] <jimmy51v> i have a domain and host for my main site i don't want to affect.  i've got to make sure this is transparent for that first
[16:24] <jimmy51v> then i'll make the home.jimmyasdf.com, then i'll get the client going
[16:36] <nadimsite> Shall I upgrade to 14.10. Actually I am using 14.04
[16:36] <nadimsite> No one to answer.
[16:37] <skao> nadimsite: if 14.10 doesn't offer anything you actually need, stick with 14.04
[16:37] <kungr> no
[16:37] <kungr> if it aint broke
[16:37] <NeurOSick> hi all
[16:38] <skao> nadimsite: 14.04 offers support until 2019 as it is LTS, 14.10 only until July 2015
[16:39] <nadimsite> Thanks skao. I have a question: what 14.10 offer more than 14.10.
[16:39] <schiho_> hi guys, how can i install libavcodec?
[16:39] <schiho_> Package libavcodec was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[16:39] <schiho_> command i run: apt-get build-dep libav-tools
[16:41] <nadimsite> I repeat my question skao: what's new on 14.10
[16:42] <skao> nadimsite: nothing that new acutally - some small stuff, like new unity minor version
[16:42] <skao> nothing gamebreaking
[16:42] <bubbasaures> nadimsite, This is support that is a chat issue and we have a channel just for it #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:42] <teward> nadimsite: The release notes are your friend - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes
[16:42] <nadimsite> Thanks skao.
[16:43] <EriC^^> notfadssss: hey
[16:43] <EriC^^> notfadssss: what's up?
[16:43] <jimmy51v> thanks compdoc.  i found it all and got it set up
[16:44] <jimmy51v> i was looking in the wrong place in the web UI
[16:44] <notfadssss> eric^^: it was the sas/sata raid and drivers that do not have the correct drivers for ubuntu
[16:44] <notfadssss> eric^^: i figured youd like to know lol
[16:44] <EriC^^> notfadssss: oh ok
[16:45] <EriC^^> notfadssss: lol :D
[16:45] <notfadssss> eric^^: figured toud like to know after all your help wtf was actually wrong
[16:45] <notfadssss> eric^^: you'd
[16:46] <EriC^^> notfadssss: yeah
[16:46] <bubbasaures> notfadssss, Can you do it without swearing or acronyms of?
[16:46] <nadimsite> Thank you babbasaures
[16:46] <EriC^^> notfadssss: it's picking up the drive and everything now?
[16:46] <nadimsite> Thank you teward.
[16:47] <notfadssss> bubbasaures: I could but it would not illustrate the difficulties associated
[16:47] <notfadssss> eric^^: had to dump the raid card get new HDD
[16:47] <EriC^^> notfadssss: ouch
[16:47] <bubbasaures> notfadssss, Than you will end up banned this is a clean language channel. As a matter of fact any one wit the slightest intelligence would know this.
[16:48] <bubbasaures> you been on here for a couple of days now
[16:48] <Linxcat> I installed 14.04 on another laptop yesterday which had 12.02, but after upgrdage I am getting weird crashes randomly. How can i completely re-install 14.04 without creating a cd/usb?
[16:48] <notfadssss> bubbasaures: okay sorry It will not happen again, using acronyms i thought was acceptable.
[16:49] <bubbasaures> Linxcat, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[16:49] <bubbasaures> try grml
[16:51] <notfadssss> eric^^: nah I have not gone and boughten the drivers I want but its a simple removing of the old and swapping of the new gotta run to microcenter later today
[16:51] <bubbasaures> Linxcat, Having the install dvd/usb is your best tool in your kit however.
[16:51] <Linxcat> bubbasaures: page doesnt exist
[16:51] <notfadssss> eric^^: then just use LVM instead of hardware raid
[16:51] <Linxcat> why cant i just re-install from ternimal?
[16:51] <EriC^^> notfadssss: oh ok
[16:51] <NeurOSick> Hi guys.. I have a little problem with Ubuntu 14.04/Unity, All my indicators desapears..almost, I still have only : lang/mail/sound/hour
[16:51] <Linxcat> i did the distro update from ternimcal
[16:51] <Linxcat> "ternimal"
[16:51] <bubbasaures> Linxcat, What page does not exist?
[16:52] <EriC^^> NeurOSick: try restart indicator-application
[16:52] <Linxcat> bubbasaures: that url you gave me
[16:52] <EriC^^> NeurOSick: or indicator-session
[16:52] <bubbasaures> Linxcat, It exists your mistaken.
[16:56] <Linxcat> bubbasaures: wow, i just learned that URLs are case sensitive. sorry I didnt enter Grub with a capital "G"
[16:56] <NeurOSick> EriC^^ no, this command restart indicators but not the icons on the status bar
[17:01] <EriC^^> NeurOSick: try restart indicator<tab>
[17:01] <EriC^^> try one of the missing ones
[17:02] <NeurOSick> like guake
[17:03] <NeurOSick> but nothing..
[17:03] <NeurOSick> EriC^^, after reboot, after restart applications, restart indicator, nothing appear.. but the applications running
[17:04] <NeurOSick> EriC^^, I've tryed create a new user session, and always the same problem
[17:04] <kokut> is there a way to search in irc chat history?
[17:05] <bubbasaures> kokut, Histories on the web and not a ubuntu issue.
[17:06] <kokut> bubbasaures: mmh yea i know i meant to search within the irc channel chat history so i don't have to ask the same question that has already been asked
[17:07] <freeroute> hi, is there a pax ppa with prebuilt kernels?
[17:07] <supersobbie> good day.
[17:07] <bubbasaures> kokut, Good luck I think by now about any question possible has been asked. ;)
[17:07] <freeroute> or at least a .deb source package?
[17:07] <SchrodingersScat> !logs | kokut
[17:07] <bubbasaures> !ppa | freeroute
[17:07] <supersobbie> I have run into an issue.  I tried to install ubuntu dual boot with windows 8.1.... but it seems to have failed
[17:08] <SchrodingersScat> !details | supersobbie
[17:09] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: thanks man, but thats not exactly what i need, i was looking for a way of searching within all those logs
[17:09] <supersobbie> I didnt want to write an entire paragraph.  but I have a windows 8.1 dell xps.  I have one hard drive for windows.  I have another that has linux.... I tried to follow the instructions (UEFI CRAP) and booted to a usb drive
[17:09] <supersobbie> then clicked install on a different drive
[17:09] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: i figured there could be a command
[17:09] <supersobbie> it did but now it doesnt boot to anything
[17:10] <supersobbie> just gives the grub error (have to reboot to give you the exact error so it will be a second)
[17:10] <supersobbie> but windows 8 doesnt boot and linus doestn boot
[17:10] <supersobbie> kinda pissin me off
[17:10] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: some search sites let you narrow it down to a specific site.  so you can search "<search term or phrase> site:irclogs.ubuntu.com" to only return results from that site.  If you mean you want to check your own logs, then you can try using grep against whatever logs your irc client keeps.
[17:10] <Fredouille_> hello
[17:10] <supersobbie> why did they have to make it hard... dual booting should be easy
[17:11] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: exactly
[17:11] <Fredouille_> is there a way to duplicate a file when it changes
[17:11] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: so first i need to download the logs to use grep?
[17:11] <Linxcat> When i get "System program problem detected" in ubuntu which one of the logs would have more details?
[17:11] <jatt> /var/log/syslog
[17:11] <supersobbie> also I can not see the windows drive from ubuntu
[17:12] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: sure, if that's the way you want to do it.
[17:12] <supersobbie> sorry strike that last comment
[17:12] <supersobbie> I see PBR Image and WINRETOOLS
[17:13] <supersobbie> but I can not mount htem
[17:13] <Fredouille_> is there a way to duplicate a file when it changes please
[17:13] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: do you know if there is any bot that could do this without me having to get all the logs into my computer?
[17:15] <bubbasaures> Fredouille_, some context might help, it is a strange question the way asked.
[17:15] <supersobbie> ok after screwing around I get a grub> prompt but not sure what to do with it
[17:16] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, Did you do a full image of W8?
[17:16] <supersobbie> it was a dell xps with windows 8 on it.
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: can't think of one better than google
[17:16] <supersobbie> then I booted to a usb ubuntu drive and clicked install
[17:16] <supersobbie> now all I get is grub>
[17:16] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, That does  not answer my question, you have to do that here if you want help.
[17:17] <freeroute> bubbasaures: I've searched that already before asking here.
[17:17] <supersobbie> no I did not do a full image of windows 8.
[17:17] <supersobbie> if you are refering to a backup
[17:17] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, That weas your first mistake, had you done that you would be all right where you started to try this again.
[17:18] <bubbasaures> was*
[17:18] <supersobbie> I agree.
[17:18] <supersobbie> but to be honest at this point I was probably just going to put ubuntu on the entier thing
[17:18] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: awsum, ty
[17:19] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, W8 has a refresh and reset option, might be where you have to go to get a new option, UEFI issues are not really well known as of now by many.
[17:19] <supersobbie> why is grub not picking up hte ubuntu install?
[17:19] <supersobbie> yea I am finding that... so far I think UEFI is S#IT!!! :\
[17:20] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, No swearing here and I just put you in ignore, with an attitude and just posting garbage, I doubt I'm the only one.
[17:21] <supersobbie> sorry it has been a frustrating day
[17:21] <supersobbie> I understand
[17:21] <bubbasaures> see a counselor for the drama we are just free help.
[17:21] <supersobbie> WoW.  k sorry apparently no one has ever come in here in a bad mood.  I mean I agree.  I help all the time in different channels.
[17:22] <supersobbie> wasnt looking ot offend.
[17:41] <abhimanyu> ny one ?
[17:42] <Linxcat> ok so i fixed my error. :)
[17:42] <da2000> oi
[17:44] <Linxcat> in the ubuntu login screen, where you can select "lubuntu/openbox/ubuntu" are those JUST gui interfaces/desktops?
[17:45] <Linxcat> the reason i am asking is because i have a "lubuntu" option there, which when you select it and login nothing happens. i was trying to remove it and reinstall lubuntu desktop
[17:46] <Linxcat> but after removing lxde and lubuntu-desktop option is still there
[17:46] <cpt_yossarian> Linxcat: you probably have some lingering packages. try apt-get autoremove, maybe
[17:47] <Linxcat> cpt_yossarian: i tried, it says "0".
[17:48] <trism> Linxcat: the sessions are specified in /usr/share/xsessions/ so you could look there to see which .desktop file provides that session and: dpkg -S that path to find the package for it
[17:49] <cpt_yossarian> Linxcat: on trism's note, here's a SO answer for your problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[17:50] <Linxcat> trism: it says /usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE
[17:50] <captainfantastic> anyone know how to bring default Unity login screen back after installing Xubuntu-desktop?
[17:51] <trism> Linxcat: no I meant the path to the .desktop file, like: dpkg -S /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop;
[17:55] <Linxcat> trism: thanks, so the result came back as lubuntu-default-settings. should i try to remove that?
[17:55] <trism> Linxcat: if you want the session gone, yes
[17:56] <Linxcat> trism: in this context, session = gui desktop. right?
[17:58] <trism> Linxcat: yes but I'm sure you probably have other packages related to lubuntu lying around because removing lubuntu-desktop won't remove them, this will mostly just remove the entry from the greeter
[17:59] <Linxcat> trism: thats what i am thinking too. there should be a parent package which when is uninstalled  will remove the session item
[17:59] <Linxcat> trism: ok so i guess i gonna read up on completely uninstalling lubuntu
[17:59] <trism> captainfantastic: do you have a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ? you can change greeter-session=unity-greeter in that to revert to default, but recent versions don't really have one...otherwise it might have added a file to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ that used lightdm-gtk-greeter instead
[18:01] <Mdgde2e> Hey gang
[18:01] <SchrodingersScat> howdy
[18:01] <Mdgde2e> Is there any way to limit processor cycles for a specific process?
[18:01] <kaste> sure you don just want nice?
[18:02] <Mdgde2e> Like, I do not want to allow chrome to use more than 60% of the CPU resources at any time.
[18:02] <captainfantastic> trism: did the first one already, and I got to enter my password twice. thinking of doing former one manually.
[18:02] <Mdgde2e> Alternatively, restricting it to a specific core.
[18:02] <kaste> Mdgde2e: read up on nice, it is probably what you really want
[18:03] <stoogenmeyer> Hey anybody have success using tagsinput along with typeahead? can get each to work on its own but having some difficulty getting them to work together
[18:03] <Mdgde2e> I kinda want to play it safe.
[18:03] <ahmad>  HexChat: 2.10.0 ** OS: Linux 3.17.6-031706-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "utopic" 14.10 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.74GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.7GiB, 77.7% free ** Disk: Total: 485.9GiB, 17.8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit
[18:03] <ahmad> Ethernet ** Uptime: 10h 53m 19s **
[18:03] <Mdgde2e> If it ever gets to crowd the CPU it will go north of 100% and stay there
[18:04] <Mdgde2e> And just queue into infinity until I cut the power
[18:04] <Mdgde2e> If it were adhering to priority properly, I wouldn't be having this issue right?
[18:05] <Mdgde2e> But I get zero resources for anything else including basic system functions
[18:06] <kaste> sure you aren seeing swapping effects here? When I run out of ram and get into heavy swapping that is the only time I see stuff like that
[18:06] <Mdgde2e> Maybe..
[18:08] <okolo> hi
[18:09] <okolo> k
[18:39] <irth> what does ubuntu/xubuntu use to encrypt /home directory (in installer)
[18:39] <irth> ?
[18:47] <deone_> nrsnfnfhrthrthrthwrhwrhrthrhrhyhtyhhrhrhrhrhetrhrhasgeragehrgrwaenrerhrsthg
[18:47] <deone_> ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[18:48] <squeegily> I know that I can add host aliases in ~/.ssh/config, and then I can just go to sftp://<alias> in the file manager, but is there anything similar for FTP?
[18:49] <squeegily> Like if I've added a laptop alias, then when I access it in the file manager, it'll show up as "/ on laptop" instead of "/ on 192.168.0.1…"
[18:52] <irth> i don't know if there's an ubuntu-specific gui solution
[18:52] <cfrieler> I'm having trouble with a MDADM created RAID 5 array properly mounting and SAMBA sharing after a power glitch reboot..
[18:52] <cfrieler> Is this the correct place to ask a few noob questions?
[18:52] <irth> but generally on linux you can modify /etc/hosts
[18:53] <squeegily> Is there something that's not a drastic system-wide change?
[18:53] <squeegily> Like ~/.ssh/config, but for FTP?
[18:53] <irth> but that only allows you to specify custom hostnames for IPs
[18:53] <irth> i don't know
[18:53] <squeegily> Which cleans up the GUI perfectly since it says "/ on laptop"
[18:53] <squeegily> it would be handy to have the router's FTP show up as "/ on router" instead of "/ on 192.168.0.1"
[18:54] <irth> /etc/hosts will work like that i think
[18:54] <squeegily> But that's pretty drastic
[18:55] <irth> well if that's your computer it's not :v
[18:55] <irth> dunno, i come from arch linux :P
[19:00] <cfrieler> Anyone here know how to troubleshoot an MDADM RAID5 volume on 14.04?
[19:01] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | cfrieler
[19:01] <squeegily> irth: It's my computer, but using root to change system-wide things for a single user's FTP server falls under Drastic ;)
[19:02] <squeegily> I come from Arch as well.. I switched to Ubuntu because I was tired of maintaining my Arch installations
[19:03] <cfrieler> !ask
[19:06] <irth> squeegily: well, 192.168.0.1 will be router for everyone who uses that computer, unless they connect it somewhere else xP
[19:07] <squeegily> irth: yeah but it looks ugly
[19:07] <squeegily> And some day I might on a whim change the subnet and I don't want to have a bunch of things system-wide configured to count on that subnet
[19:07] <squeegily> This sort of thing is one of the reasons I bailed on Arch
[19:08] <cfrieler> !patience
[19:10] <SchrodingersScat> cfrieler: so I'm saying you may not be giving enough details, what is happening, what you've tried, etc., or no one is on that has any input.
[19:15] <cfrieler> ScrodingersScat:  Thanks - Old guy, first time on IRC  -   so I'm still unclear on controls and protocol.  I've got a home media server set up on 14.04, 28TB mdadm RAID5 volume on 8 4TB drives that is SAMBA shared to a collection of WIn7 systems.  We had a power glitch this AM and now the volume won't automount, and if I mount it, the SAMBA shares aren't working. I have spent 6 hours trying various things from the internet, but an no
[19:17] <cfrieler> Sorry, Character limit on a single line...   Where do I find a relevant troubleshooting guide? or What is the first thning to check?
[19:17] <joespeakeasy> cfieler have you tried accessing the data with another system? like a live os?
[19:18] <debarshi> Hi
[19:19] <debarshi> I was wondering, Ubuntu LTS releases such as 14.04 are less buggy than 14.10 or regular releases, right?
[19:20] <TheTopBloke> Uh, I don't think so. I believe 14.10 is stable but I could be wrong
[19:20] <cfrieler> debarhi: The stated difference is that thr LTS versions are supported longer, not that they  are necessarily less buggy.
[19:21] <joespeakeasy> I'm new to bash and I've hit a hurdle. I have a simple function that I use to wrap up a series of sed commands. when I pass parameters as strings, all is well. however when I pass $VARIABLES… the function behaves strangely. Can anyone point me to some docs that may help me sort this out?
[19:21] <bubbasaures> debarshi, all opinions is all
[19:22] <EriC^^> joespeakeasy: use sed 's@$var@$var@'
[19:23] <debarshi> So one of the thing that kinda bothers me a little with ubuntu (and opensource operating systems in general, even though I support the movement) is that it seems there are always little bugs.. like on 14.04 right now, sometimes, when I drag my mouse on the desktop and that orange square pops up, the orange square stays and doesn't just disappear like it's supposed to
[19:23] <debarshi> that's a small tiny bug... but it does kinda bother me
[19:24] <SchrodingersScat> joespeakeasy: the wooledge bash wiki is very nice, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/CompoundCommands#Functions
[19:24] <joespeakeasy> EriC, no luck… I'll post it to pastebin. I'm dumbfounded
[19:24] <XCVB> cleverbot test
[19:24] <bubbasaures> debarshi, All software has bugs, many times here we see bugs exclaimed on user errors is all.
[19:26] <debarshi> bubbasaures: Your correct, at least I don't use Windows anymore!!! LOL (haven't in like 4 years)
[19:26] <collizion> debarshi: Wish I could say the same.
[19:27] <bubbasaures> debarshi, Not a proclamation that flys for me but whatever.
[19:27] <joespeakeasy> SchrodingersScat (Alive I hope): that looks good. I wish I would have found that primer earlier.
[19:28] <SchrodingersScat> joespeakeasy: there is also a #bash here on freenode, has many knowledgeable people
[19:29] <joespeakeasy> I'll head there now, thanks so much.
[19:29] <TheTopBloke> anyone here use textmate?
[19:30] <debarshi> bubbasaure: So I was wondering.. for years I've been trying to learn how to help develop for the ubuntu operating system... I've joined IRC groups before, but no luck... I just don't know where I could learn the essentials.. I know how to use gcc and g++ for small things like command line programs.. but I have no idea how to do QT and GTK+ etc... I know Java too, but I'm not super good at the gui stuff either.. where can I learn?
[19:30] <debarshi> I also would love to help with the operating system (AKA the actual system development) in general
[19:31] <mike802> why do you refer to it is "developing for ubuntu"
[19:31] <mike802> it sounds like you've already found a program
[19:33] <bubbasaures> debarshi, You can tab complete nicks to get them correct. There is a support system to ubuntu not sure where to start myself.
[19:34] <debarshi> As in? I mean I know some simple stuff.. but learning gui graphics and also stuff like.. I wanna learn the networking apsects of Ubuntu, I want to learn how Ubuntu and linux works at it's core.. I know linux is a monolithic kernel... but I want to learn more... how does all this get developed??? System.out.println(); and cout<< is one thing.. but how do.. I really want to become more of a hacker (Ethical hacker of course) I want t
[19:34] <debarshi> o use the system to its full potential.. but to tell you the truth.. I'm only 16 and have little idea what I'm doing
[19:34] <TheTopBloke> is there perhaps a better ubuntu chat related to servers?
[19:35] <SchrodingersScat> !server | TheTopBloke
[19:35] <bubbasaures> debarshi, This is all offtopic, there is a channel just for that #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:35] <debarshi> bubbasaures: Thank you!!!! :D
[19:36] <Skyrider> back 2 windows it is
[19:38] <Siilwyn> Hi people, after using Ubuntu for a while what email app would you recommend instead of Thunderbird?
[19:38] <Siilwyn> Thunderbird has a bit too much clutter in my opinion.
[19:39] <dreamcat5> Siilwyn: i would gmail in a web brower for any platform
[19:39] <mike802> i can't believe mozilla dropped support for thunderbird
[19:39] <mike802> out of things to do, how lazy
[19:39] <Siilwyn> mike802, they did? ;0 I didn't know that.
[19:40] <dotut> hello, using 12.04LTS, remote/direct printers show up in cups (lpinfo -v) but not gtk print dialog...any ideas?
[19:40] <Siilwyn> dreamcat5, I do use gmail but it's handy if I can read recent email offline.
[19:40] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | mike802, I'm not sure what major improvements in thunderbird you are waiting for, but,
[19:43] <Siilwyn> Anybody knows in what order the wifi networks are sorted? (Seems random to me.)
[19:44] <m0h4wk> Hi there, I was wondering if someone could help me with a question I have
[19:45] <m0h4wk> I have 2 hard drives on my laptop right now, an SSD and an HDD. I dual installed Windows 8 and Ubuntu on the SSD. Is there any way to make it so that all my data/files are stored on my HDD? Such as Ubuntu apps, backups, etc.?
[19:45] <dreamcat5> Siilwyn: maybe look for a chrome or firefox plugin for offline gmail browsing
[19:46] <jatt> m0h4wk: put /home in a partition on your hdd
[19:46] <m0h4wk> jatt: what do you mean?
[19:47] <dreamcat5> Siilwyn: there is supposted to be one for Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ejidjjhkpiempkbhmpbfngldlkglhimk
[19:48] <SchrodingersScat> m0h4wk: during a manual partition setup you can tell ubuntu to place things where you like, so you could make a partition on you hdd and tell it to place /home/ there.  (Then all user files would be on the hdd rather than ssd)  You can do this for more than just home, but not sure what would be suggested in your setup.
[19:49] <elichai2> hey
[19:49] <elichai2> i have Ubuntu 14.10
[19:49] <elichai2> and I had no upgrades for more than a week
[19:49] <elichai2> any ideas why?
[19:49] <m0h4wk> jatt: I think I'm just going to save my all my physical files on my HDD manually by creating a shortcut to a folder there and keep the apps on the SSD. That would make more sense.
[19:51] <elichai2> here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/?C=M;O=A
[19:51] <jatt> m0h4wk: sure that's another approach that should work
[19:51] <elichai2> I can see that `utopic-changes` last change was in 22.12
[19:51] <elichai2> why?
[19:51] <m0h4wk> jatt: thanks!
[19:53] <elichai2> someone?
[19:54] <jatt> elichai2: maybe there are no changes since 22.12
[19:54] <elichai2> lol, i never saw so long time with no changes
[19:54] <SchrodingersScat> was really only a bit over a week ago
[19:55] <elichai2> I used Arch until a few months ago, So I'm used for updates every day...
[19:55] <elichai2> I'm thinking of upgrading to 15.04 :P
[19:56] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | elichai2
[19:56] <elichai2> kk lol
[19:58] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad on the ocean
[19:58] <Siilwyn> Thanks dreamcat5
[19:59] <dreamcat5> np
[20:00] <teward> network manager isn't scanning for wifi networks more than once every 5 minutes is there any way to change that?
[20:02] <jatt> teward: askubuntu is your friend:
[20:02] <jatt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53498/how-to-change-the-refresh-rate-at-which-the-network-manager-updates-the-wireless
[20:03] <Siilwyn> Something else about the network manager, does anybody know the order of the networks?
[20:03] <Siilwyn> It doesn't seem to be ordered at all, would be better if it got ordered by signal strength.
[20:04] <SchrodingersScat> mine seems to be alphabetical
[20:04] <BlueProtoman0> Help!  I'm on Ubuntu 14.10, and it won't boot!  When I try, it says "General error mounting filesystems" and dumps me to a root shell in maintenance mode.  I don't know how I can paste the exact error, as I'm writing this on my tablet.  Any tips?
[20:05] <Siilwyn> Mine isn't, I got: S, U, K, P, T, V.
[20:06] <Siilwyn> BlueProtoman0, have you tried booting with a installation usb or cd?
[20:07] <BlueProtoman0> Siilwyn: No.  However, I do have a Windows partition on this machine that runs fine.
[20:08] <BlueProtoman0> I don't have a means of installing a boot disk at tge moment.
[20:08] <Siilwyn> BlueProtoman0, I would try running it live just to test if it's related to Ubuntu not detecting it well or your current installation being wrong.
[20:08] <chrlsdrnt> f
[20:09] <Siilwyn> But I'm not an expert at all so maybe somebody else got some better troubleshooting tips. I do know installing Ubuntu on an usb stick is a pretty easy first step.
[20:10] <BlueProtoman0> Siilwyn: I've been running Ubuntu on this laptop for years, and 14.10 for weeks.  I didn't do anything fancy last night, I just woke up and bam, fuck me.
[20:11] <Siilwyn> BlueProtoman0, that's really odd.
[20:13] <jatt> BlueProtoman0: did you try to update/upgrade packages before it broke?
[20:14] <chrlsdrnt> BlueProtoman0: Check your fstab
[20:16] <chrlsdrnt> It's most likely an issue with fstab. Check the contents of it. you can 'cat' or 'nano' /etc/fstab. You can find out the UUID of your drives with 'blkid'
[20:17] <Siilwyn> chrlsdrnt, how could the contents of fstab be changed all the sudden?
[20:17] <chrlsdrnt> an upgrade? I dont know but its the first place i would check
[20:18] <Siilwyn> Just curious. Would be really bad if an upgrade 'broke it'.
[20:18] <chrlsdrnt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/199487/general-error-mounting-file-systems
[20:19] <chrlsdrnt> I have had all sorts of weird things happen over the years. nothing surprises me anymore
[20:19] <teward> jatt: thanks
[20:21] <Siilwyn> chrlsdrnt, that's a shame, I switched to Ubuntu for reliability too. Had no issues for two years now.
[20:21] <BlueProtoman0> jatt: No.
[20:21] <dreamcat5> i had major issues after adding a 3rd party apt source which was a Debian - that really screwed it all up
[20:22] <dreamcat5> apart from that, it's been mostly ok
[20:22] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdrnt: Okay, so what do I do with fstab?
[20:22] <chrlsdrnt> I've used it on and off since 8.04... Its been an interesting ride
[20:22] <chrlsdrnt> Have you opened it? vi /etc/fstab
[20:22] <chrlsdrnt> or nano
[20:22] <chrlsdrnt> whatever editor you want
[20:23] <BlueProtoman0> Ye
[20:23] <chrlsdrnt> ok so you should see UUID=NUMBERS/LETTERS followed by a '/'
[20:23] <BlueProtoman0> Yep
[20:23] <chrlsdrnt> should be 2 entries. one for root and one for swap
[20:24] <BlueProtoman0> I have three; got a separate home partition
[20:24] <chrlsdrnt> ah gotcha. if you cat /var/log/kern.log do you see anything about i/o errors
[20:24] <dreamcat5> BlueProtoman0: did you try booting into the 'Advanded' --> Recovery gub menu option ?
[20:25] <BlueProtoman0> dreamcat5: No
[20:25] <dreamcat5> there you can run fsck on your / partition, repair apt-get etc.
[20:25] <chrlsdrnt> can u reboot to a hardware diagnostic to check the smart status of the drive
[20:26] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdrnt: There are errors in the kernel log.
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> input output errors?
[20:26] <BlueProtoman0> One, yeah
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> sounds like a failing drive.
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> BUT
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> there should be mulitple
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> no just one
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> not*
[20:26] <BlueProtoman0> So why does my Windows parition still work?
[20:27] <dreamcat5> BlueProtoman0: you should think about backing up your /home/ folder too
[20:27] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: run "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[20:27] <chrlsdrnt> you can boot to windows?
[20:28] <daftykins> or download crystaldiskinfo in Windows
[20:28] <BlueProtoman0> Yep.  Just fine.
[20:29] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: go fetch crystaldiskinfo then.
[20:29] <chrlsdrnt> did any updates run before you rebooted?
[20:29] <BlueProtoman0> I can't install smartmontools, apt-get won't let me
[20:29] <BlueProtoman0> No, no updates
[20:29] <chrlsdrnt> download crystal disk info
[20:29] <chrlsdrnt> in windows
[20:29] <chrlsdrnt> http://sourceforge.jp/projects/crystaldiskinfo/downloads/58588/CrystalDiskInfo5_6_2.zip/
[20:30] <daftykins> oh look, an echo :)
[20:30] <chrlsdrnt> yeah
[20:30] <chrlsdrnt> haha
[20:30] <BlueProtoman0> My /home partition is encrypted, though
[20:30] <chrlsdrnt> sorry
[20:30] <daftykins> run it, point to: Function -> Advanced Feature -> Raw Values -> 10 [DEC] - then share a screenshot
[20:30] <BlueProtoman0> Gimme a few, then
[20:31] <dreamcat5> BlueProtoman0: well if it's a seperate partition, maybe you can still dd copy the whole thing (if it's not too big)
[20:31] <daftykins> you have 4 minutes, Mr. Bond
[20:31] <chrlsdrnt> sounds like just enough time for a vodka martini
[20:31] <chrlsdrnt> shaken... not stirred
[20:31] <BlueProtoman0> dreamcat5: ~200 GB
[20:32] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdrnt: With a slice of lemon peel
[20:32] <daftykins> i recommend the portable zip version btw, of crystaldiskinfo
[20:34] <chrlsdrnt> I wonder what you would get if you tried to manually mount the file systems from the command line
[20:34] <chrlsdrnt> with 'mount -a'
[20:34] <BlueProtoman0> When I boot back to Linux, I'll try that and let you know
[20:34] <daftykins> i think you should consider crossing bridges once you come to them, find out the disk's status first :P
[20:35] <daftykins> and really, live media would be the best next step. why can't you create a flash drive from Windows?
[20:35] <BlueProtoman0> I have Advanced System Care already
[20:35] <BlueProtoman0> Because I have no flash drive or CDs on me
[20:36] <daftykins> so you're not home?
[20:36] <daftykins> advanced what?
[20:36] <dreamcat5> BlueProtoman0: i have easy2boot permanmently installed on a FAT32 partition of my HDD. no external media required, just the .iso file ;)
[20:36] <dreamcat5> you would need a very particular partiton layout however
[20:36] <chrlsdrnt> brb
[20:37] <daftykins> dreamcat5: not much use locking the horse pen once the horse has already bolted
[20:39] <darkdrgn2k3> ok driving me nutz i have user-session=myth
[20:39] <darkdrgn2k3>  set but it STILLS loads blackbox
[20:47] <Turingi> hello, has youtube-dl been updated recently?
[20:47] <Turingi> it's stopped working for a few weeks
[20:48] <daftykins> if it doesn't work, likely youtube has changed things that prevent it for now
[20:48] <daftykins> you'll have to play the waiting game
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Turingi: 2014.12.16.2 was still working for me, there's 2015.01.03 now though.
[20:51] <SchrodingersScat> and that means it was updated today
[20:52] <akpatel> hi
[20:52] <cfrieler> joespeakeasy: Volume won't mount with a simple right click > mount. If I go in and mount it with GParted, I can see the data and all looks fine. GParted reports that the GPT table on each of the drives is "corrupted", but I've seen that since the volume was created and assumed it was an incompatibility between MDADM and GParted.
[20:52] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: it's been ages, what's the progress? ;)
[20:54] <BluesKaj> cfrieler, don't make that assumption , gparted created a gpt table for this laptoip without much fuss
[20:54] <jatt> Turingi: it works for me on utopic
[20:56] <cfrieler> BluesKaj:  But that is a simple underlying volume - mdadm add another layer of complexity. Can anyone confirm that GParted works without issue on mdadm RAID5 volumes?
[20:56] <chrlsdrnt> BlueProtoman0: did you run crystyal disk
[20:56] <BlueProtoman0> The hell?  I can't take a screenshot of CrystalDiskInfo; when I try, the window just doesn't show up.
[20:57] <chrlsdrnt> use snippit
[20:57] <ahop> Hi! I want to install 14.04 LTS on a VirtualBox with only 2GB of disk
[20:57] <ahop> Is there a light version?
[20:57] <ahop> without GUI
[20:57] <chrlsdrnt> ubuntu server?
[20:57] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdrnt: I'm using Gadwin
[20:57] <chrlsdrnt> still need more than 2gb
[20:57] <kostkon> !mini
[20:57] <dasjoe> ahop: get a text based installer like the Minimal CD, don't select a DE when asked
[20:58] <daftykins> ahop: why 2GB? server will use 900MB minimum
[20:58] <chrlsdrnt> if its win 7, search for snippit from the start menu. take ur shot and upload it to the web
[20:58] <ahop> Desktop / Server / Minimal CD / are there other versions ? (so I can pick the best for my purpose)
[20:58] <daftykins> "snipping tool" is what's it's called on 7 and 8
[20:58] <chrlsdrnt> yeah thats it
[20:59] <BlueProtoman0> Huh, thanks.
[20:59] <daftykins> ahop: no
[20:59] <kostkon> ahop, the various derivatives, xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-gnome etc.
[20:59] <ahop> how to choose between Server version and Minimal CD version ?
[20:59] <daftykins> ahop: you download a different file...
[20:59] <cfrieler> ahop: Look at LUbuntu or Mint.
[21:00] <BlueProtoman0> imgur.com/LgQBDQd
[21:00] <chrlsdrnt> boom.
[21:00] <chrlsdrnt> bad sectors
[21:00] <chrlsdrnt> time to shop for a new drive
[21:01] <ahop> what requirement for server ? 2 GB disk is enough
[21:01] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdnt: Mind elaborating...?
[21:02] <chrlsdrnt> sectors are the points in which the drive is marking 1's and 0's. As soon as a drive starts producing bad sectors its a sign of an immanent failure
[21:02] <chrlsdrnt> it could take weeks, it could take days
[21:02] <bekks> ahop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Server_.28CLI.29_Installation
[21:02] <BlueProtoman0> And the bad sector just happens to prevent me from booting into Ubuntu?
[21:03] <chrlsdrnt> could be sectors that ubuntu was using
[21:03] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: that disk is toast. Windows is ok because it's in the good area of the disk (right now) but that disk needs to be replaced so you need to back up your data and get a new one
[21:03] <BlueProtoman0> How can I access it?  My home partition is encrypted...
[21:03] <ahop> Let's go for 14.04 Server ! :)
[21:04] <chrlsdrnt> with a live cd. I believe you can mount it if you have the key
[21:04] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: you'll need to make up a live disc ASAP.
[21:04] <chrlsdrnt> did you save the encryption key
[21:04] <BlueProtoman0> I think so...
[21:05] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: is this drive in a new system, or old?
[21:05] <ggate> Can anyone suggest upgrade path for 11.10 install other then re-install ?
[21:05] <BlueProtoman0> daftykins: 2011 laptop
[21:05] <daftykins> ggate: no, it'd take way too long. backup and clean install
[21:05] <kostkon> ggate, upgrade to 12.04?
[21:06] <kostkon> ggate, still supported
[21:06] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Great, now I gotta freaking run to Best Buy
[21:06] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: get yourself a 4GB flash drive at the same time then
[21:07] <chrlsdrnt> also I would turn your computer off
[21:07] <daftykins> if you're buying a new hard disk
[21:07] <daftykins> lol no that's not a concern
[21:07] <ggate> @kostkon , dist-upgrade didnt work
[21:07] <BlueProtoman> daftykins, chrlsdrnt: Is there some quick workaround I can do to be able to get onto Linux and access my files?
[21:07] <chrlsdrnt> windows will run indexing and updates and just unnecessarily use the disk
[21:07] <chrlsdrnt> you can try an fsck
[21:07] <kostkon> ggate, you got 404 errors?
[21:07] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: yes it involves you buying a flash drive and putting ubuntu on it to make it bootable
[21:07] <theadmin> !eolupgrade | ggate
[21:08] <chrlsdrnt> like dafty said, the live disk is the better way
[21:08] <ggate> @daftykins , ok .. I think I know what that means .. I will check the link ubottu ave about EOL Upgrades
[21:08] <ggate> thanks alll ..
[21:09] <daftykins> ggate: wrong highlight
[21:09] <kostkon> ggate, it was theadmin
[21:09] <ggate> oh ok
[21:10] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Shit, then.  Think my disk will last another day?  I'm running some errands tomorrow and I'll get this while I'm out
[21:10] <daftykins> !language
[21:10] <chrlsdrnt> just keep the computer off until tomorrow
[21:10] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: depends how much you care about your data i guess :)
[21:11] <daftykins> yeah avoiding use would be wise
[21:11] <daftykins> if you already had a flash drive you could have disconnected it and been using a live session! :D
[21:11] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Man...so how much research will I have to do to get a new drive?  Is finding a new one gonna be a hellish ball of compatibility issues, or can I just get anything?
[21:12] <kostkon> BlueProtoman, as long as it's not a sony or apple laptop
[21:12] <BlueProtoman> kostkon: It's a Samsung QX411
[21:12] <kostkon> BlueProtoman, it should be easy
[21:12] <kostkon> BlueProtoman, ok
[21:13] <BlueProtoman> I need to decrypt the damned Linux partition...
[21:13] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: all the information required is already in your crystaldiskinfo screenshot. it's a 750GB SATA 300 (aka SATA II) hard disk right now. so 1TB+ would be nice, but i don't have a clue what type of computer this is?
[21:13] <daftykins> yes you've said 3 times now - and repeating that before having bootable media is NOT getting you any closer to a solution - so please apply some patience :)
[21:14] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388310,00.asp
[21:15] <daftykins> hmm, that's going to be fun. do you own any external hard disks right now?
[21:15] <chrlsdrnt> if you dont have it already, make sure u get a small phillips screw driver while your out
[21:15] <chrlsdrnt> unless its a torx
[21:15] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: No, I don't.  Is it "Good" fun or "shoot me" fun?
[21:16] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: well you're going to need a way to connect both the existing disk and the new disk at the same time, to copy data off it.
[21:16] <daftykins> so maybe you could invest in some kind of USB enclosure that allows laptop drives to be plugged in
[21:16] <BlueProtoman> Maybe Best Buy has one
[21:16] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: now we know it's a laptop, you want a 2.5" (inch) 1TB+ SATA hard disk
[21:17] <daftykins> yeah, i'm sure they have something appropriate
[21:17] <daftykins> you probably should have an external disk for backup purposes anyway though
[21:17] <BlueProtoman> How much will that run me?
[21:17] <BlueProtoman> Most of my stuff is either on DropBox or GitHub
[21:17] <daftykins> well believe it or not i'm not in the US, so i can't comment there
[21:18] <BlueProtoman> Hm...anything else I should know?
[21:19] <daftykins> ugh that thing has a non-removable battery
[21:19] <daftykins> depends, got any experience conducting surgery on laptops?
[21:19] <BlueProtoman> No.
[21:20] <BlueProtoman> All I know is that I need to turn it off and unplug it before I do so.
[21:20] <daftykins> indeed, normally i'd remove batteries too - but allegedly this one is sealed in. do you have any way of taking a picture of the underside? there aren't any pics on that pcmag page of the underneath
[21:21] <daftykins> i'm kind of leaning toward suggesting you ask them to do the drive swap really, at best buy
[21:21] <BlueProtoman> I might have them do that, actually
[21:21] <BlueProtoman> Hope it's not more expensive than just a new laptop of comparable quality...
[21:22] <daftykins> then you could reinstall windows + ubuntu yourself and you'd have your external disk ready to mess with to get your data back (if you buy a device to connect it via USB)
[21:22] <daftykins> nah they really shouldn't charge much at all for a drive swap, it's typically the simplest thing
[21:22] <daftykins> depends if your hard disk is directly behind an accessible panel on the underneath, as they typically are
[21:24] <daftykins> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236496
[21:24] <daftykins> something like that isn't too bad
[21:25] <daftykins> whereas this is a little fancier - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178340
[21:26] <BlueProtoman> I might just buy one at Best Buy.  My winter break only lasts so long, so if I'm gonna replace everything I've gotta do it before the semester starts
[21:26] <webflashing> Hi guys, quick question. Regarding Video Drivers, which option should I choose? http://i.imgur.com/8mmrfnt.png
[21:26] <webflashing> And if possible, why?
[21:27] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: So what can I do in the future to take better care of my next hard drive?
[21:27] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: yeah just an example. if you don't care about battery life, vibration or noise, go with a WD (Western Digital) 2.5" 7200rpm SATA disk if they sell one of that brand
[21:27] <theadmin> webflashing: I recommend using fglrx. It's the proprietary driver that comes directly from AMD and as such it usually performs better.
[21:27] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: I care primarily about capacity and speed
[21:27] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: nothing, they all die. you just need a backup device, because you can't just get by with an internal disk
[21:27] <webflashing> theadmin: I appreciate it, thank you
[21:27] <theadmin> webflashing: The one that comes with Ubuntu (xserver-xorg-video-ati) is open source but may perform much worse in games and stuff.
[21:27] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: ok, go for one of those hybrids then - they're part SSD part HDD so you get capacity and a speed boost
[21:28] <compdoc> webflashing, try the open source, and if it isnt fast enough or has some issue, try the propritory
[21:28] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: How big do they tend to be?  My current HDD is 500GB; I get along fine with that, but I don't want anything smaller.
[21:28] <webflashing> theadmin: yeah I was actually gonna try some games as Im new to linux and wanted to see how it performed, so im gonna test it out and see
[21:28] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: screenshot said 750GB :) so as above go for 1TB+
[21:29] <theadmin> webflashing: I recommend TF2 as a "benchmark" of sort. It runs well even on oldish machines, so if it lags something's way wrong.
[21:29] <theadmin> Is also free and fun.
[21:29] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Oops, 750GB, you're right.
[21:29] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Thank you very much for your help.
[21:29] <webflashing> yeah I have a lot of hours into tf2. gonna download it first with the open source driver that comes with the installation and if it doesnt run well I may try fglrx
[21:30] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: no problem, see how you get on at the shops :)
[21:30] <daftykins> or 'stores' in americanese
[21:30] <webflashing> Well, thank you very much guys!
[21:30] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: You da man.
[21:30] <webflashing> Gonna restart to apply updates
[21:31] <gueriLLaPunK> i did a command in putty to list a bunch of stuff, but i cant scroll up far enough to see the whole list. the command is speedtest-cli --list
[21:31] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i scroll up or pause it as it's listing?
[21:31] <daftykins> shift+page up?
[21:32] <theadmin> gueriLLaPunK: command | less
[21:32] <theadmin> gueriLLaPunK: That will make the output scrollable.
[21:32] <SchrodingersScat> gueriLLaPunK: also consider running the command in something like tmux or screen in the future.  I know screen has a 'copy' mode that lets you scroll up, think it was ctrl-a-esc, then esc cancels copy mode.
[21:32] <EriC^^> gueriLLaPunK: or shift+pageup
[21:33] <gueriLLaPunK> thjank you guys
[21:33] <gueriLLaPunK> thank*
[21:34] <Apachez> is it just me or is there no ubuntu updates for the past 2 weeks, the last one seems to be that ntpd fix
[21:34] <gueriLLaPunK> i did speedtest-cli --list | less
[21:35] <gueriLLaPunK> and now its like stuck? it says (END)
[21:35] <anybroad> hi
[21:35] <theadmin> gueriLLaPunK: Use the up/down arrows to scroll.
[21:35] <gueriLLaPunK> and i cant ctrl+q or ctrl+c
[21:35] <anybroad> How can I increase performance for my cifs smb _client_?
[21:35] <zol> How can I make ufw allow outgoing connections from my local network through my router/server where I am running ufw? It seems to block all connections.
[21:35] <theadmin> gueriLLaPunK: And use q to exit.
[21:35] <anybroad> samba server is windows 7
[21:35] <SchrodingersScat> gueriLLaPunK: how about just q
[21:35] <gueriLLaPunK> lol duh
[21:35] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks! haha
[21:35] <bekks> anybroad: Are you using a gigabit connection?
[21:36] <anybroad> bekks: no, localhost / virtual network
[21:36] <zol> I've enabled nat/masquerading, and I have set up a dhcp server, so IPs are being distributed correctly. Only outgoing connections from my server/router seem to work, not from behind it.
[21:36] <anybroad> bekks: so I hope to tweak some special stuff which normally makes only sense with physical networks
[21:37] <zol> I did a sudo ufw allow out from 10.0.0.0/24, but still no luck. Also sudo ufw default deny incoming.
[21:38] <bekks> anybroad: Can you be more specific? Like which speeds do you get, e.g.?
[21:39] <daftykins> anybroad: i've never had to 'tweak' things with samba to get good performance
[21:41] <anybroad> So it vmware workstation with nat.
[21:41] <anybroad> Windows 7 64bit is samba server, linux client with cifs+smb is client.
[21:42] <gueriLLaPunK> that speedtest cli is pretty cool
[21:52] <zol> How do I allow trafic to pass by my router that is running ufw?
[21:52] <zol> From my local network to the WAN?
[21:55] <daftykins> zol: got IP forwarding enabled to start with?
[21:58] <xdko> Hi everybody
[21:58] <daftykins> hi
[22:06] <zol> daftykins: As far as I can tell, yes
[22:06] <zol> daftykins: How can I verify?
[22:06] <Welshman> Hi everyone using this free chat room. I am new to ubuntu. But I do have a question. How do I install all the files from c2esp-27.tar.gz into Ubuntu?
[22:06] <jasper5> hi
[22:06] <daftykins> zol: so that means you're not sure? :) "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" i believe, should be 1 if it's enabled
[22:07] <daftykins> Welshman: well first up, downloading gzipped tar's is not the best way of installing software in Linux land. are you sure a package isn't available for whatever that is?
[22:07] <zol> daftykins: Oh, yeah, that I have enabled
[22:08] <zol> daftykins: I see "UFW AUDIT" logs comming up for packets coming from my LAN to the router, and vice versa.
[22:08] <Tutunak> tar.gz have into readmi
[22:08] <SchrodingersScat> !info printer-driver-c2esp | Welshman
[22:08] <zol> daftykins: However "UFW ALLOW" from router to WAN
[22:08] <daftykins> !ufw
[22:08] <daftykins> zol: i don't think you've done enough required reading for what you're trying to do. have a look at the above.
[22:09] <SchrodingersScat> Welshman: I would try to install that package first, if that fails you /then/ I would start to mess with the tar.gz.  If they didn't provide instructions on the website, then there may be a README within the tar.gz if there are specifics.
[22:09] <zol> daftykins: I have spent 4 hours reading at the moment. I can say that I don't understand the metaphor that is used in the documentation. From who's perspective is allow out/in?
[22:10] <Welshman> Also, a related question: can I include all the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz with all the files of the iso of Ubuntu to create a new iso using Img Burn?
[22:10] <daftykins> zol: from the perspective of your network as an entity. 'out' is to the untrusted (internet)
[22:11] <zol> daftykins: Then "sudo ufw allow out from 10.0.0.0/24" should work, but it doesn't. :/
[22:12] <bubbasaures> Welshman, To put in the iso you have to make a custom one, not for the beginner really.
[22:12] <Welshman> bubbasaures: Using Img Burn as I stated?
[22:13] <daftykins> zol: that doesn't sound right at all
[22:14] <zol> daftykins: I have two NICs, one configured for WAN, the other for a LAN with a subnet range of 10.0.0.0/24.
[22:14] <daftykins> zol: yeah, i already guessed that much from the above
[22:14] <bubbasaures> Welshman, not that I have seen, that is a burner right not a custom iso builder is there even a linux download?
[22:14] <zol> daftykins: I'm running dns and dhcp and the LAN clients are receiving their IPs correctly and they can ping the router.
[22:14] <zol> daftykins: nslookup is also looking good from the clients.
[22:15] <zol> daftykins: However, ping doesn't work for google.com for example.
[22:15] <bubbasaures> Welshman, Is this a situation for a specific install?
[22:15] <zol> Or any other remote IPs.
[22:15] <SchrodingersScat> Welshman: there's guides like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but like others have mentioned, it's normally something that only sounds like a good idea, all the same you're free to.
[22:15] <daftykins> zol: is NAT in place correctly?
[22:15] <theadmin> Welshman: You can make a custom Ubuntu image if you are already running Ubuntu.
[22:16] <theadmin> Welshman: To do so, make use of the Ubuntu Customisation Kit. Is the easiest way really.
[22:16] <theadmin> !info uck
[22:16] <SchrodingersScat> neat
[22:16] <daftykins> zol: why are you even using a computer as a router? seems unnecessarily complex ;)
[22:16] <zol> daftykins: Not sure, how can I verify? I have followed the guides I have found; modifying the nat table in before.rules etc.
[22:16] <theadmin> Welshman: Other than that, I know no reasonable way to customise the ISO.
[22:16] <zol> daftykins: My D-link router is too slow for my 1 Gbit bandwidth connection. :)
[22:16] <daftykins> so get a new one
[22:17] <zol> daftykins: I can't afford one. :(
[22:17] <Welshman> bubbasaures: If I can use Img Burn to create a new iso of Ubuntu (files of c2esp-27.tar.gz + files of Ubuntu) do I include all of the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz?
[22:17] <daftykins> zol: ok sorry, you clearly don't know the basics. you need a NAT setup in place to translate from one side to the other, assuming this ubuntu system is directly connected to the internet connection and solely so
[22:17] <daftykins> try #ubuntu-server for more, as this is out of the scope of this channel really.
[22:17] <zol> daftykins: Ok, thanks for trying! :)
[22:17] <theadmin> Welshman: You can't do that.
[22:17] <theadmin> Welshman: You can't just modify the image directly
[22:18] <theadmin> It will break stuff.
[22:18] <SchrodingersScat> theadmin: cool, thanks for showing me uck
[22:19] <kaste> Hello, I want to run a command after startup but before user login and would like to avoid writing a startup file for it
[22:19] <theadmin> SchrodingersScat: No problem. It's a very nice tool if you know how to use it
[22:19] <theadmin> kaste: Just put it in /etc/rc.local before the "exit 0" line
[22:19] <kaste> is @reboot in crontab the right approach or do I need to go with /etc/local
[22:19] <kaste> s/local/rc.local/
[22:19] <kaste> ok
[22:21] <Welshman> theadmin: Why can't I create a new iso of Ubuntu which includes some or all the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz using Img Burn? It would make life much easier rather than 'installing' files separately. Please explain why not.
[22:21] <bubbasaures> Welshman, Not sure how it's done, tried to make a custom iso years ago and found it to be problematic is all, installing a tar in the install if the dependencies are there is a no biggie.
[22:22] <bubbasaures> Welshman, You can make any iso you want, if you have the skills. ;)
[22:22] <Ben64> Welshman: your question doesn't make any sense
[22:22] <SchrodingersScat> Welshman: you have to work within how the livecd works.
[22:23] <theadmin> Welshman: Because, well, you won't see the contents of the ISO once you boot. You will see the root filesystem that's a compressed squashfs file on the ISO.
[22:23] <daftykins> imgburn isn't even capable of manipulating ISOs
[22:23] <dannymichel> if options to a linux command include -a -b -c, i sometimes see them combined. -av not sure why that makes sense for rsync http://ss64.com/bash/rsync_options.html http://mike-hostetler.com/blog/2007/12/08/rsync-non-standard-ssh-port/
[22:23] <Welshman> bubbasaures: Thanks for the info: "Not sure how it's done, tried to make a custom iso years ago and found it to be problematic is all, installing a tar in the install if the dependencies are there is a no biggie".
[22:23] <daftykins> why are you repasting what's above 0o
[22:23] <adunosine> hi any one here is a os developper ??
[22:23] <wad> Hey guys. So I've got a box full of digital video tapes, and my old digital camcorder. It connects to a computer with firewire. If I buy a firewire PCI adapter, what are the odds that it will actually let me get my videos off those tapes?
[22:24] <bubbasaures> adunosine, How is this related to ubuntu?
[22:24] <Ben64> wad: if the firewire card works, pretty likely
[22:24] <wad> Okay, cool.
[22:25] <adunosine> bubbasaures: i don't understand you ?
[22:25] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | adunosine
[22:25]  * wad goes to find a PCI firewire card then.
[22:25] <bubbasaures> adunosine, This is ubuntu support, not really seeming related to your question is all.
[22:25] <adunosine> bubbasaures: ah ok im sorry !
[22:26] <adunosine> it's my first time
[22:26] <imnichol> Hey, I've got a question about home directory encryption:
[22:26] <bubbasaures> !alis | adunosine, Cool, there is a bot search for channels
[22:27] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. Which scripts do I have to look into in order to have apache NOT start automatically? TIA!
[22:27] <Welshman> Thanks to those who answered my question. I am now leaving the room. So all the best for 2015 + bye for now.
[22:27] <theadmin> nimbiotics: Assuming Apache uses startup, check /etc/init/apache2.conf
[22:27] <theadmin> Err...
[22:27] <theadmin> Upstart.
[22:27] <imnichol> I've got / on one HDD and /home/ on another.  If I pull the drive with /home/ on it out of my computer and reinstall Ubuntu on /, can I then plug in /home and use my user password to decrypt it?
[22:27] <theadmin> nimbiotics: To have it start manually, just put "manual" there instead of "start on [whatever]"
[22:28] <fam_> Is it possible to open an onscreen keyboard without access to a keyboard?
[22:28] <bubbasaures> imnichol, Back it all up no matter what is your best insurance.
[22:28] <fam_> using a surface pro 3
[22:29] <imnichol> bubbasaures, yeah I'm aware.  I'm asking whether it's *possible*
[22:29] <theadmin> fam_: System Settings -> Universal Access -> Typing -> enable on-screen keyboard.
[22:29] <fam_> I did that
[22:29] <fam_> nothing happened
[22:29] <theadmin> Huh that's weird.
[22:30] <nimbiotics> theadmin: Thanks for your answer. I'm looking at my apache2.conf and there is no "start on [whatever]" line ... Where else should I look?
[22:30] <bubbasaures> imnichol, Yeah, we just never know if it's the can I do this without a backup thinking process, or their all backed up and now executing the process.
[22:30] <tonik> "Caja cannot handle "sftp" locations"?!!  Well, FUCK YOU
[22:30] <imnichol> hahah yeah bubbasaures that's good policy ;)
[22:30] <theadmin> nimbiotics: Can you paste the contents of the file to http://hastebin.com ?
[22:30] <theadmin> tonik: Use ssh://
[22:30] <theadmin> tonik: I think.
[22:30] <bubbasaures> !language | tonik
[22:31] <tonik> theadmin, that worked, thanks
[22:32] <nimbiotics> theadmin: http://hastebin.com/udutekaqif.vhdl
[22:32] <bennypr0fane> Hi, I keep getting a problem alert from Ubuntu when starting my server, but it won't tell me what the problem is - just "do you wanna report it?" or "cancel". How can I find out what's wrong?
[22:32] <theadmin> nimbiotics: That's not the right file.
[22:32] <theadmin> nimbiotics: It should be under /etc/init/
[22:34] <nimbiotics> theadmin: I cannot find any file related to apache at /etc/init/
[22:34] <theadmin> Oh, hm.
[22:35] <Ben64> init.d
[22:37] <nimbiotics> Why is user ratsbe bullying in me private about my issue??
[22:37] <alejandro_> alguien de cuba
[22:37] <alejandro_> ??
[22:37] <Ben64> nimbiotics: you can join #ubuntu-ops and bring that to their attention
[22:37] <mellamokb> i am rdp'ing into a computer with a virtualbox ubuntu install. it is really slow. is there a way i can ssh directly into the guest machine when only port 3389 is open?
[22:37] <alejandro_> someone of cuba
[22:37] <alejandro_> ??
[22:38] <nimbiotics> Ben64: will do, Thanks!
[22:39] <nimbiotics> ALEJANDRO: que necesitas??
[22:44] <fam_> I figured it out, you have to log out before it shows up
[22:44] <fam_> the on screen keyboard, that is
[22:45] <fam_> thanks for the help theadmin
[22:45] <jimmy51v10> i left myself logged in to IRC at work.  how can i boot myself so i can register from here?
[22:46] <xangua> !ghost | jimmy51v10
[22:47] <jimmy51v10> ok.  seems to have kicked it.  now it says nick is unavaialble.
[22:47] <jimmy51v10> maybe i'll wait a bit
[22:48] <daftykins> join #freenode it's their deal, not the OS you run ;)
[22:51] <lahwran> ikonia, collizion: it *was* a misconfiguration on my part. somehow, this change allowed traceroute -6 (without -I) to work: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/38d5ef363403e9b4c608/revisions
[22:51] <lahwran> still working on figuring out why
[22:52] <nimbiotics> FYI: In order to configure Apache web server not to start at boot you can use this command: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[22:53] <capsul> how can i start my_script.bash like : $my_script ? everywhere ? because , for the moment , i need to go in repository shell and write $bash my_script.bash
[22:53] <capsul> have u got a solution ? for run it as skype,irssi,xchat....
[22:54] <ratsbe> capsul: use linphone
[22:54] <bekks> Name your script like "myscript" and run "bash myscript".
[22:54] <daftykins> does your script have a shebang?
[22:54] <capsul> bekks , its only for example , not problem with name of script :p
[22:55] <bekks> capsul: It is the solution. ;)
[22:55] <capsul> thank(s ratsbe  , i will look for this
[22:55] <capsul> bekks:  i need to go in nice directory , for put bash myscript
[22:55] <ratsbe> capsul: use the ppa version if it crashes alot
[22:55] <capsul> i want start him everywhere
[22:56] <capsul> ratsbe: ok :)
[22:56] <bekks> capsul: Then put it in a directory in $PATH
[22:56] <capsul> minute , i will go check linphone , if it's my solution ^^
[22:57] <ratsbe> capsul: I thought u were looking for a communication program
[22:57] <capsul> ratsbe: totaly not for linphone -__-
[22:57] <daftykins> ratsbe: it's usually wise to read the questions
[22:58] <ratsbe> Blink
[22:58] <capsul> ôÔ
[22:58] <capsul> when i told skype,irssi,xchat
[22:58] <capsul> just example of script which can start everywhere
[22:58] <capsul> just if u call it
[22:59] <capsul> without way or $bash
[22:59] <bekks> capsul: Then put it in a directory in $PATH
[22:59] <capsul> hmm
[22:59] <ratsbe> Why does their always need to be a forum spell checking creep or a irc creeper
[22:59] <returnthis> I am looking for some guidance as to the right thing to look for. I would like a network daemon that maintains a permanent connection for a client that loses network a lot.   client -> (magic?) -- permanent --> daemon
[22:59] <capsul> i will go check $man path
[22:59] <capsul> :)
[23:00] <ratsbe> Why does their always need to be a forum spell checking creep or a irc creeper daftykins
[23:00] <daftykins> !ot | rays
[23:00] <daftykins> oops.
[23:00] <capsul> ratsbe: keep sarcasm and take happy new year in ur heart
[23:00] <daftykins> ratsbe: see the above.
[23:00]  * capsul smile :)
[23:01] <capsul> $man path = No manual entry for path
[23:01] <capsul> :'(
[23:02] <bekks> capsul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[23:02] <capsul> google , my false friend
[23:02] <capsul> thx you bekks ;D
[23:04] <capsul> bekks: if i put myscript in usr/bin/
[23:04] <capsul> that work if i call him like $myscript
[23:04] <capsul> or i need to make action with "PATH"
[23:05] <bekks> capsul: You dont need to do anything to $PATH, when putting a script into a directory already contained in $PATH
[23:05] <capsul> :)
[23:05] <capsul> lot of love
[23:05] <capsul> lot of luck
[23:05] <capsul> lot of healt
[23:05] <capsul> for you bekks
[23:05] <capsul> and your 2015 year
[23:05] <capsul> :)
[23:05] <bekks> capsul: you're welcome :)
[23:05] <capsul> ;)
[23:06] <capsul> see you
[23:06]  * capsul go out
[23:06]  * capsul will write /quit
[23:06] <capsul> -__-
[23:06]  * capsul smile :)
[23:07] <johnb003> Hi I setup my server to share my internet connection originally with just a wan, and now I have added a new wired nic, and I'm not sure how I need to change my dhcp server to make it work on the br0
[23:07] <bekks> johnb003: DHCP does not work on a bridge.
[23:08] <johnb003> oh
[23:08] <johnb003> so each interface needs it's own dhcp?
[23:08] <bekks> johnb003: Yes. Most likely, you need to setup a router, not a bridge.
[23:10] <johnb003> I see
[23:11] <johnb003> to be clear I have eth0 to connect with the WAN, wlan0 which i used to have my dhcp run on, and would masquerade to the wan, and now I also have eth1, which I'd like to have dhcp, and allow connections on the wired nic and wifi to see each other
[23:11] <bekks> johnb003: No.
[23:11] <bekks> johnb003: You setup a router between eth0, wlan0 and eth1.
[23:12] <johnb003> how do I do that?
[23:12] <daftykins> johnb003: should be NAT you set up, not bridging. that won't work
[23:12] <bekks> !router
[23:13] <bekks> johnb003: You could set it up like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[23:13] <johnb003> daftykins: Ok, yeah I mean it was nat masquerading between wlan0 and eth0, just trying to see how to make eth1 and wlan0 see each other and both be able to nat over the eth0
[23:13] <johnb003> bekks: I tried following this guide but for the wifi it doesn't allow me to set master via this network interfaces. I had to use hostapd
[23:14] <bekks> johnb003: That may happen, yes. But thats still a router then.
[23:14] <johnb003> ok
[23:14] <johnb003> maybe i desceribed it wrong...
[23:15] <johnb003> but that setup uses a bridge too
[23:15] <johnb003> # Set up the internal wired/wireless network bridge
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> hi
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> ok this is driving me nutz.. Using Nvidia binary(319) and it wrk sgreat
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> untill i do somethign liek run CRHOME.. and then i MAY get a cool light show on the screen, and this in my dmesg
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> http://pastebin.com/bymCKauR
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> any ideas?
[23:25] <designbybeck> Linux Wacom question... Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04, my Wacom 4 tablet isn't plug and play anymore. I have to restart my computer everytime. Has anyone seen anything like that?
[23:26] <ejuan> designbybeck, i would run dmesg after you plug it in to see if its loading the driver for the tablet
[23:26] <designbybeck> just type dmesg in the terminal ejuan ?
[23:26] <ejuan> yeah
[23:26] <ejuan> or lsusb
[23:27] <designbybeck> I looks like it sees it ejuan
[23:28] <thequietone> alright, I've been having issues with wlan not working
[23:28] <thequietone> ethernet works fine though, hence how I'm online now
[23:29] <thequietone> can anyone help me get wlan functioning again? this is soon to be a major production machine
[23:29] <daftykins> thequietone: identify what the wireless device is first, "lspci" if it's an internal card, or "lsusb" if it's USB
[23:29] <designbybeck> ejuan, http://www.pasteall.org/55965
[23:30] <thequietone> daftykins: done that already, it's a Realtek RTL8188ee
[23:30] <daftykins> are you the one from the other day?
[23:30] <daftykins> i think that should work out of the box on 14.04 and 14.10
[23:30] <thequietone> probably. tested the live DVD and it was working, and I haven't made any serious internal changes
[23:31] <ejuan> designbybeck, check in the settings menu under mouse and touchpad
[23:31] <thequietone> I didn't report back because my sleeping pill had taken hold of me :/
[23:31] <ejuan> see if it shows up there
[23:31] <designbybeck> yep it shows up there
[23:31] <designbybeck> and if i unplug it it goes away there ejuan
[23:32] <daftykins> thequietone: hmm, i would run a "lsmod | grep 802" on both the live session and the install and compare them to see what drivers are loaded
[23:34] <thequietone> daftykins, it seems like the drivers are loaded appropriately on install
[23:34] <ejuan> designbybeck, does the tablet  work when you select and  enable it?
[23:34] <designbybeck> no
[23:34] <ejuan> hmm
[23:34] <tonik> is there a way to disable the X RandR extension, or (even better) make a program think it is not present?
[23:34] <designbybeck> when i move the pen over the tablet it the mouse doesn't move
[23:34] <designbybeck> but when i restart with it plugged in, then  Ican use us it
[23:34] <designbybeck> use it
[23:35] <daftykins> thequietone: yes and the command above will let us see if a different driver is loaded in the install, compared with the live session.
[23:37] <ejuan> designbybeck,  check the xorg logs do   tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log in the terminal
[23:38] <designbybeck> ejuan, http://www.pasteall.org/55966
[23:39] <designbybeck> ejuan, I show to be running 1920x1080(16:9)
[23:39] <elex> Hi, after a fresh installation of 14.04.1 I got stuck on "Switching to clocksource tsc" The device worked well on an older Version. Any Ideas or hints?
[23:41] <retroispresto> what's the command to change the ownership of a volume and all of it's sub directories from root, to steven
[23:43] <nonplussed> chown -R steven /directory/name/  (i think)
[23:44] <retroispresto> yay thanks nonplussed !
[23:44] <retroispresto> i just had to add the sudo infront of the command
[23:44] <nonplussed> thanks to you.  I'm just glad someone is actually making some noise in here.
[23:47] <retroispresto> how come when i put a space before a command executed with sudo or as root, it keeps the history?
[23:48] <nonplussed> not sure what you mean.  most terminals do keep a history, but the history will be user specific so if you are root you will see the history or the root user's commands
[23:48] <retroispresto> when entering a non elevated privelage command with a space infront, it doesn't write it to .bash_history
[23:48] <bekks> The shells keep a history.
[23:49] <thequietone> http://imgur.com/lbOUsIw I feel like I should point this out, on wlan I get this odd network behavior even when nothing else is using the internet. (Firefox and XChat aren't doing anything.
[23:49] <nonplussed> thanks
[23:50] <retroispresto> thequietone: maybe the dash preloading online results?
[23:51] <ejuan> designbybeck, maybe do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom-lts-trusty
[23:51] <designbybeck> HHmmm, what might that do ejuan ?
[23:52] <designbybeck> Guess I'll still have to reboot after that ejuan ?
[23:52] <ejuan> it installs the - X.Org X server Wacom input driver
[23:52] <retroispresto> designbybeck: install wacom ...
[23:52] <retroispresto> ^^^^
[23:53] <designbybeck> even though it should have been there by default?
[23:53] <thequietone> retroispresto: it doesn't do that on ethernet, I'm suspecting something odd in software
[23:54] <nonplussed> gotta go.  have a good day everyone.
[23:56] <irish> does anyone know why audio doesn't work in simplescreenrecorder under Ubuntu but works under Arch
[23:57] <retroispresto> irish: is audio muted?
[23:58] <irish> nope all the settings are the same from each distro
[23:58] <irish> i've fooled around with this for an hour
[23:58] <biffbaxter> retroispresto: add the HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth to the .bashrc file for root its not there by default and when you elevate privs even with a space it will show in history