| SonikkuAmerica | sandarce: You probably could, but (1) do it via terminal, and (2) watch what else gets removed. | 00:01 |
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| flankerr | fuck this shit | 07:57 |
| flankerr | fucking morons | 07:57 |
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| BluesKaj_ | 'Morning folks | 11:05 |
| tzukk | hi | 11:12 |
| tzukk | does kubuntu run on a macbook pro retina? is it easy to install? | 11:12 |
| tzukk | i would like to switch to a distro with kde (5 plasma in the end) | 11:13 |
| BluesKaj_ | tzukk, don't use plasma 5 if you're on a work machine..too buggy | 11:17 |
| tzukk | what a shame :/ | 11:18 |
| tzukk | i never liked the looks of kde so far | 11:18 |
| tzukk | but the new one looks nice | 11:18 |
| tzukk | also i was using a minimal setup for years, but now need one that "just works" for work | 11:19 |
| tzukk | automount, easy network discoverage, easy multiple monitors, easy wifi setup and such | 11:19 |
| soee | tzukk: not too buggy for me :) | 11:20 |
| soee | works fine here | 11:20 |
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| MoonUnit` | buggy for me, dual screen, try to rotate one and the screen messes itself, and in vmware try to resize the screen and it breaks up to. | 12:23 |
| soee | MoonUnit`: Plasma5 ? | 12:25 |
| MoonUnit` | yeah | 12:26 |
| soee | hmm ok that i can't verify, im not using rotations etc | 12:26 |
| soee | lets hope in Plasma 5.2 beta that should; be released this week we will see a lot of fixes :) | 12:26 |
| BluesKaj_ | soee, this week ? | 12:29 |
| soee | BluesKaj_: yes, Riddell said he will package them | 12:31 |
| soee | schedule https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 | 12:31 |
| soee | and teh final 27th | 12:31 |
| soee | i think teh packaging shouldnt be so hard now when using kubuntu-ci | 12:32 |
| tzukk | one thing | 12:36 |
| tzukk | what is the difference between ubuntu and debian, as a base for kubuntu i mean | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj_ | tzukk, that's a google question | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj_ | !core | 12:38 |
| tzukk | BluesKaj_: so far i havent found an answer | 12:40 |
| tzukk | thats why i decided to ask here | 12:40 |
| yossarianuk | tzukk: ubuntu is based on debian unstable but stabalised.... | 12:40 |
| yossarianuk | tzukk: http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Debian_vs_Ubuntu | 12:40 |
| tzukk | and why did people not help up with stabalizin debian unstable then? | 12:40 |
| yossarianuk | tzukk: ubuntu stable has far newer packages than debian stable - i think due to direction really. | 12:41 |
| yossarianuk | this is probably the wrong place to ask anyway........... | 12:41 |
| tzukk | hmm is ee | 12:42 |
| yossarianuk | also kubuntu stable often has newer KDE version than debian unstable. | 12:42 |
| yossarianuk | a good kde based distrobased on debian is NeptuneOS BTW | 12:42 |
| tzukk | oh never heard of it, thank you! i checkt it out! | 12:43 |
| BluesKaj_ | that's why google is your friend (ahem) , but one needs to know how to ask :) | 12:43 |
| andy123 | at the risk of starting a flame war: there's a reason there is hundreds of distros. Many are too egocentric to cooperate | 12:44 |
| yossarianuk | I use kubuntu as I love KDE - Ubuntu is also generally the most supported distro in term of software... | 12:45 |
| yossarianuk | although Neptune OS is probably faster - I think due to BFS scheduler and sysctl tweaks. | 12:45 |
| tzukk | i was thinking about switching to kubuntu | 12:46 |
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| yossarianuk | but kubuntu releases are solid enough to use for work+ home desktops | 12:46 |
| tzukk | but i dont think double-work needs to be done, thats why i think about rather supporting debian | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj_ | debian is a too conservative for my taste | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj_ | the stable version that is | 12:48 |
| yossarianuk | BluesKaj_: correct - this is why neptuneos is interesting | 12:49 |
| yossarianuk | its debian stable + later kernel (3.16.x) + later Nvidia driver + latest stable KDE 4.14.2 | 12:49 |
| yossarianuk | + BFS... | 12:49 |
| yossarianuk | but i still use kubuntu as main desktops.... | 12:49 |
| yossarianuk | they have even copied your design.... | 12:50 |
| yossarianuk | i.e | 12:50 |
| tzukk | sounds like neptuneos is nice | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj_ | yossarianuk, well, think I'll stick with an OS that has at least some support. Neptune does sound interesting, but merely as an experiment | 12:50 |
| yossarianuk | see technologies here - http://www.kubuntu.org/ | 12:51 |
| yossarianuk | and http://neptuneos.com/en/about-neptune.html | 12:51 |
| tzukk | is anyone of you contributing to kubuntu in some way? | 12:51 |
| yossarianuk | I'd sue them... | 12:51 |
| yossarianuk | tzukk: bug reports | 12:51 |
| yossarianuk | I make a PPA with latest stable Nvidia also. | 12:51 |
| yossarianuk | (the sue thing was a joke.....) | 12:51 |
| tzukk | interesting :) | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj_ | testing 15.04 here | 12:52 |
| yossarianuk | plasma 5 seem nice (tested with 14.10+PPA) | 12:53 |
| BluesKaj_ | not a plasma 5/KF5 fan yet ...it needs improvement | 12:53 |
| tzukk | i am only here because i want to use kde 5 plasma :) | 12:54 |
| tzukk | never liked (the standard) look of kde 4 | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj_ | heh, I don't like the simplistic flat default look that plsama 5 has | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj_ | icons are like cartoon images...worse than gtk in 2005 | 12:56 |
| tzukk | i think kde 4 can made to look nice. but i was not able to do that easily | 12:56 |
| tzukk | i found a tool which was supposed to download new themes (standard in kde). but some couldnt be downloaded. and on kde-looks there were more than the tool displayed. also searching dint work properly | 12:57 |
| soee | i like the current P5 theme http://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/04/p5.png | 13:01 |
| yossarianuk | looks good | 13:01 |
| yossarianuk | tzukk: here is a good example why to choose (k)ubuntu rather than debian - i.e you want to test plasma 5... | 13:02 |
| soee | with Plasma 5.2 the new decoration will be also usable | 13:02 |
| soee | *window decoration | 13:02 |
| yossarianuk | soee: what plasma version will 15.04 come with ? | 13:02 |
| soee | yossarianuk: 5.2 i think | 13:03 |
| soee | it will be releaed january 27th and Vivid in April | 13:03 |
| soee | so maybe 5.2.2 or something | 13:03 |
| tzukk | this means in january 27th i can download kubuntu with plasam 5? | 13:03 |
| soee | its already using Plasma 5.1 | 13:04 |
| soee | *Vivid Alpha1 | 13:04 |
| soee | the screen i posted is frm Vivid Alpah 1 | 13:04 |
| soee | *slpha | 13:04 |
| tzukk | soee: well i meant in a more or less stable way :) | 13:05 |
| tzukk | i am looking for a setup for work | 13:05 |
| yossarianuk | soee: cheers | 13:06 |
| yossarianuk | 5.1 seemed stable enough... | 13:06 |
| yossarianuk | few issues with system-settings | 13:06 |
| soee | tzukk: yeah Plasma 5.2 might be what you are looking | 13:06 |
| tzukk | but maybe i can just go with kde 4 for now. though some concepts of it i never understood. this strange area on the desktop that is there by default for example | 13:06 |
| tzukk | soee: 5.2 in current status or on januara 27th? | 13:07 |
| soee | in 27th :) | 13:07 |
| tzukk | okay, i can wait that long :) | 13:07 |
| tzukk | soee: i like your screenshot | 13:07 |
| tzukk | is it also possible to make kde 4 look like that? | 13:08 |
| soee | tzukk: there is some theme that makes it look liek a breeze | 13:08 |
| soee | but i never tried it as im on Plasma 5 since first releases | 13:09 |
| tzukk | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Kubuntu_jaunty.png <- i never liked the menu. and also the roundness of the bar | 13:10 |
| soee | ah im not using it in Plasma 5 | 13:11 |
| tzukk | maybe i should try this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Dynamo+Plasma?content=166475 | 13:12 |
| soee | im using kicker, here is some very old video of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2DIHGhJIeg | 13:12 |
| tzukk | Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 4 <- so i am going to download this and if i want plasma 5 i have to add a ppa right? | 13:14 |
| tzukk | and then apt-cache search plasma? | 13:15 |
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| andy123 | www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.10 | 13:15 |
| andy123 | see "Install Plasma 5 on 14.10" | 13:16 |
| tzukk | thanks andy123 | 13:16 |
| andy123 | tzukk: but more straight-forward is to directly download the plasma 5 tech preview | 13:17 |
| tzukk | i think i will go for the stable | 13:17 |
| tzukk | and then switch to plasma 5 on january 27th | 13:17 |
| tzukk | its not too long to wait | 13:17 |
| tzukk | one more thing: i have an uefi laptop. is this okay with kubuntu? or anything to know? | 13:18 |
| andy123 | what's going to happen on jan 27th? | 13:18 |
| yossarianuk | tzukk: UEFI is fine | 13:18 |
| yossarianuk | unless you are also using win8 I suggest disabling secure-boot though | 13:18 |
| tzukk | andy123: <soee> it will be releaed january 27th and Vivid in April | 13:19 |
| yossarianuk | also chech out rEFInd | 13:19 |
| tzukk | i would like to have two distros on that laptop. it wont be a problem with grub 2 right? | 13:19 |
| tzukk | no, windows here :) | 13:19 |
| yossarianuk | rEFInd = UEFI bootloader - auto adds all UEFI systems it detects | 13:19 |
| tzukk | and whats the difference in refind vs grub2? | 13:20 |
| yossarianuk | with UEFI you shouldn't use the grub menu from one distro to boot to another | 13:20 |
| yossarianuk | rEFInd can boot without grub.. | 13:20 |
| tzukk | so i should install refind instead of grub? | 13:20 |
| yossarianuk | it detects existing UEFI installs and gives you a graphical menu to chooe them | 13:20 |
| yossarianuk | no you should just install rEFInd | 13:20 |
| yossarianuk | (along side) | 13:21 |
| tzukk | yossarianuk: how do i go about this? first installing kubuntu as usal, and then install refind at last? | 13:21 |
| yossarianuk | yes | 13:21 |
| tzukk | yossarianuk: can it be installed with apt? | 13:22 |
| yossarianuk | tzukk: dpkg | 13:22 |
| tzukk | i see, so its not a hassle | 13:22 |
| tzukk | and then it will autodetect all OSs installed? | 13:22 |
| yossarianuk | should do - and give the correct icon (if known) | 13:22 |
| yossarianuk | you can still book via your bios's UEFI loader also. | 13:23 |
| yossarianuk | i.e rEFInd works with existing bootloaders (including windows) or via EFI stub | 13:23 |
| tzukk | wow this stuff is confusing | 13:23 |
| yossarianuk | http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/linux.html | 13:23 |
| yossarianuk | sort of... | 13:24 |
| yossarianuk | actualy there is a PPA for apt - https://launchpad.net/~rodsmith/+archive/ubuntu/refind | 13:25 |
| yossarianuk | the .deb file is @ http://sourceforge.net/projects/refind/files/0.8.4/refind_0.8.4-1_amd64.deb/download | 13:25 |
| yossarianuk | (ill use the PPA from now on..) | 13:25 |
| tzukk | great, thanks yossarianuk | 13:28 |
| tzukk | so no configuration just installing it | 13:28 |
| yossarianuk | no config in my experience - however you can edit the config if you want. | 13:29 |
| tzukk | but whats the difference to grub2, i thought it can boot uefi too? | 13:31 |
| yossarianuk | it can | 13:34 |
| yossarianuk | the difference if with rEFInd you can boot multiple UEFI OS's from the same menu | 13:35 |
| yossarianuk | grub + UEFI if you boot into another distro from another grub menu it probably will not work - it will work between various versions of ubunut+varients as they all use the same.EFI file to boot | 13:37 |
| yossarianuk | however if you say boot Fedora from an ubuntu UEFI-grub menu it will likely not boot | 13:37 |
| yossarianuk | as it uses a different .EFI file | 13:37 |
| yossarianuk | rEFInd can boot multiple UEFI OS's. | 13:38 |
| tzukk | oh | 13:38 |
| tzukk | i see | 13:38 |
| tzukk | well that sounds nice :) i will go for that | 13:38 |
| yossarianuk | (and its graphical + mouse support) | 13:38 |
| yossarianuk | if you only ever boot 1 OS though don't worry... | 13:38 |
| torrente | hi | 15:24 |
| soee | hiho | 15:24 |
| torrente | does the last version of kubuntu has ktorrent? | 15:25 |
| soee | application ? | 15:26 |
| torrente | yes | 15:26 |
| soee | yes | 15:26 |
| torrente | i dont have to install....... | 15:26 |
| torrente | is it embedded? | 15:26 |
| soee | yes | 15:27 |
| torrente | great | 15:27 |
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| m-t | Hello, sombody know howto get a list of selected appoinments out of korganizer? Like for example all appoinments of a year showing a list of it the start and endtime. | 15:58 |
| m-t | Reoccuring appoinments should show as several events in this list as well. | 15:58 |
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