[01:28] <Unit193> Did a test sync of cairo, seems to fix the segfault that I keep on hitting.  In Ubuntu it's stuck on an old git snapshot.
[01:31] <Unit193> !info libcairo2 vivid
[01:31] <Unit193> !info libcairo2 unstable
[01:38] <ari-tczew> Unit193: I think it should be processed by seb128.
[05:29] <Logan_> Unit193: note the changes from the last merge: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo/1.12.10-1ubuntu1
[05:30] <Logan_> but yeah, definitely talk to seb128
[05:33] <Unit193> Logan_: Right, one is a git commit and another is an additional dep that's been added since.
[07:55] <Noskcaj> Logan_, Is --parallel enough of a reason to not sync latexila?
[07:55] <Logan_> what about the recommends/suggests?
[07:56] <Noskcaj> I didn't see a need for them, but i think i should contact matttbe before syncing
[07:57] <Logan_> good call :)
[12:42] <dupondje> xnox: are you planning to merge/sync cryptsetup soon?
[12:43] <dupondje> seems like you included alot of ubuntu changes into debian yet :)
[17:39] <shadeslayer_> hi there, when running autopkgtests, do you reckon it would make sense to export some standard variables like HOME, XDG_* , etc so that tests that write files to those locations can proceed without issues? In a whole bunch of KF5 and Plasma 5 tests, I've had to manually export dirs in each of the tests which is super annoying ...
[18:29] <Bluefoxicy> is it appropriate to suggest a prerelease package for Inkscape for Vivid?
[18:29] <Bluefoxicy> the current version is 0.48, and there is a 0.91pre3 pre-release which is 3 years newer.
[18:30] <Bluefoxicy> It would be nice to have inkscape and inkscape0.91 (the same as there used to be multiple wine packages), but this may be out of taste for ubuntu
[18:30] <Bluefoxicy> there's a ppa that includes nightly builds, but that is ... well, nightly builds are different than having a development build.
[18:31] <Unit193> Experimental has 0.91.
[18:31] <Bluefoxicy> (similarly, why the hell does 14.10 have Wine 1.7?  1.7 is a development branch, and there is no wine 1.6 available))
[18:31] <Bluefoxicy> Unit193: there's an Experimental repo?
[18:31] <Unit193> Debian, upstream.
[18:31] <Bluefoxicy> ah
[20:56] <Noskcaj> Is there a way i can find out why UDD branches aren't in sync with the current version?
[20:57] <cjwatson> http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/
[21:02] <Noskcaj> bzrlib.plugins.builddeb.upstream.pristinetar.PristineTarError fails a number of xubuntu's packages, is there something xfce/bluesabre could do to help avoid that?
[21:10] <cjwatson> Give up on UDD? ;-)
[21:12] <teward> heh
[21:12] <cjwatson> Though in that case it's possible that an updated pristine-tar backport might help.  Not currently sure what the UDD host is running.
[21:16] <Noskcaj> cjwatson, Until i get some upload rights, UDD is by far the best way to package i've found. If you could backport pristine-tar, that would be great
[21:19] <cjwatson> UDD is all but unmaintained, I'm afraid, so major problems are unlikely to be fixed.
[21:20] <Noskcaj> cjwatson, I don't know much about coding, but is there anything i can do to help with it?
[21:21] <cjwatson> Looks like package-import == jubany is running precise, so that would be pristine-tar 1.20ubuntu1.
[21:21] <Noskcaj> How much would be fixed by updating the host to more current packages?
[21:21] <cjwatson> pristine-tar might be improved, but I doubt much else would change
[21:22] <cjwatson> Might be worth trying to isolate the particular pristine-tar failures in packages you care about (they may be isolatable by grabbing the bzr branch and trying to use pristine-tar directly) and working out whether they correspond to fixes that have been made since 1.20 that could be SRUed to precise
[21:24] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:25] <Noskcaj> How should i run pristine-tar? i've not used it before
[21:36] <Noskcaj> cjwatson, package-import can't just be upgraded to 14.04?
[21:37] <ari-tczew> Noskcaj: why don't you just upload debdiff instead creating enormous bazaar branches?
[21:37] <Noskcaj> ari-tczew, because it's easier to work with the vcs
[21:38] <ari-tczew> Noskcaj: IIRC you have internet connection, so I think it's easier to upload small debdiff debian -> ubuntu than gigantic branch
[21:39] <ari-tczew> (if example is merge from Debian)
[21:40] <Noskcaj> yeah, but with smaller sized packages (less than 10mb branch) it is IMO a beter workflow to use the bzr
[21:41] <ari-tczew> Noskcaj: ok, you say something about vcs. do you mean gnome packages, or every package?
[21:42] <Noskcaj> i was meaning the bzr vcs
[21:42] <Noskcaj> gnome stuff is often desktop team vcs, which is a bit different
[21:42] <Noskcaj> and ubuntu-gnome is going to be using git by the end of the cycle
[21:44] <cjwatson> Noskcaj: I expect the problem would be QAing it; I don't think it has a staging site
[21:44] <cjwatson> (but I know relatively little about it)
[21:51] <ari-tczew> Noskcaj: I don't know what would be easier to use bzr, at least on sponsoring site, but it's only IMHO.
[21:57] <ari-tczew> Noskcaj: what about your MOTU? is the discussion still going on mails?