[00:00] <m1b> hello there
[00:00] <retroispresto> thanks biffbaxter ;3
[00:01] <m1b> wow, i didn't hang in irc for years..
[00:01] <bubbasaures> !yay | m1b
[00:01] <m1b> it's like coming back to childhood :-)
[00:01] <olykwon> im currently trying to get fl studio setup to bridge using synths and loops and samples with bitwig-studio as the main DAW
[00:02] <olykwon> might even setup ableton using wineasio driver under pulse with jack2
[00:02] <mEck0> I’m trying the xmpp framework and got a local ejabberd server running. Now I want to connect a jabber client from a phone, what should I type as the host? Since localhost or local IP-address will not work.. I also tried with my IP-address out to the net but can’t get it work :/
[00:03] <olykwon> use external dns?
[00:03] <retroispresto> i am really really hoping planetary annihilation fits onto my 3.6 or so gb ssd
[00:03] <olykwon> and a proxy if using host on service provider doesnt like looping back to ip
[00:04] <olykwon> freedns is good
[00:04] <m1b> quit
[00:04] <olykwon> dyndns costs money now
[00:04] <SeekerOfTruth> Hello
[00:04] <panthere> hello
[00:05] <olykwon> hello
[00:05] <panthere> is there a french channel on the serv ?
[00:05] <SeekerOfTruth> Am New here and seek guidance
[00:05] <daftykins> SeekerOfTruth: ask away for ubuntu support questions
[00:05] <mEck0> olykwon: so I need to use a dns to make it work, to make the phone find my local server through the net?
[00:06] <SeekerOfTruth> my question is regarding using this site on ubuntu
[00:08] <pixelkat> dear elementary
[00:08] <pixelkat> please fix all the bugs in freya
[00:09] <daftykins> !elementary | pixelkat
[00:09] <kuygo> hi too all Linux users :)
[00:09] <pixelkat> hallo!
[00:09] <daftykins> pixelkat: i'm sure this isn't the first time you've been told that elementary OS isn't on topic here
[00:14] <pixelkat> its more lively in here
[00:14] <pixelkat> on a side note, gnome-disk-utility is awesome
[00:15] <Ben64> pixelkat: doesn't matter. use the proper channels
[00:15] <pixelkat> :(
[00:15] <pixelkat> where should i go for general ubuntu chat
[00:15] <bekks> pixelkat: Just because it is more lively in here, it doesnt make Elementary OS ontopic in here.
[00:15] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:15] <daftykins> pixelkat: you're not using ubuntu
[00:17] <retroispresto> be nice to pixelkat
[00:17] <m1b> hello there!
[00:18] <bekks> !rootirc | m1b
[00:18] <daftykins> retroispresto: there's nothing nicer than sharing channel policy.
[00:18] <m1b> oh yes, i am a damn noob..
[00:18] <bekks> m1b: So logout again, login as user and join IRC as user :)
[00:19] <retroispresto> puppy linux runs irc as root
[00:19] <m1b> technically i'm not logged in as root..
[00:19] <bekks> retroispresto: Puppy linux isnt supported in here ;)
[00:19] <m1b> brb
[00:20] <m1b> ahem.. ^^ hello again.
[00:23] <carina> Hi :) I have this problem that i can't enter bios at all. My friend gave me this linux computer and usb stick and told me that installing windows would be like 5 minute thing, but it seems to be bit harder... Has anyone had a similar problem?
[00:23] <daftykins> what kind of computer?
[00:23] <daftykins> what are you trying, to enter the BIOS?
[00:23] <carina> samsung series 5 ultra
[00:23] <daftykins> laptop?
[00:24] <carina> that's right
[00:24] <daftykins> some more modern systems have a dedicated button on the side to boot directly into setup instead of keys
[00:24] <daftykins> i'd recommend having a quick read of the manual or look online given the model
[00:24] <mieayam> carina: installing windows 5 minute? your friend must be damn fuk crayyyzee
[00:24] <carina> I watched some videos on youtube and they all were telling me to press f2 but does not work or esc or delete
[00:25] <daftykins> that's actually entirely truthful, mieayam - you shouldn't use that language in here.
[00:25] <daftykins> carina: has it got windows 8 already?
[00:25] <carina> daftykins: No, just linux ubuntu
[00:26] <carina> I would prefer to install windows 7
[00:26] <LemonSqueeze> hello guys, I just talked to an ATT rep, and it looks my internet is all good on the router end, could you guys give me trouble shooting tips for high ping on ubuntu?
[00:26] <daftykins> carina: try F10, 11 and 12 too
[00:27] <daftykins> carina: you might need to press it earlier than you expect
[00:27] <daftykins> carina: anyway you should really be in ##windows since this isn't really ubuntu support :>
[00:27] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: where are you seeing high pings?
[00:28] <carina> daftykins: tried all of those and f10 just puts me in this weird page that looks like bios but offers only ubuntu boot
[00:28] <LemonSqueeze> both on speedtest.net and in DOTA 2 which I am trying to play
[00:28] <carina> others just offer me boot or restore
[00:28] <daftykins> carina: sounds like a boot menu. tried restore?
[00:29] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: where in the world are you?
[00:29] <tomlinsonian>  /join #anonamouse.net
[00:29] <carina> daftykins: yes but did not really understad what to do there
[00:29] <SeekerOfTruth> How can i config my Ubuntu ip to a proxy of my choice?
[00:29] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: sacramento
[00:29] <daftykins> carina: ok, still not an ubuntu support question i'm afraid. type "/join ##windows" and ask those guys
[00:30] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: ok i guess from your hostname that means california, so what does opening a terminal and running "ping google.com" give? (use ctrl+C to stop after a few tries)
[00:30] <7JTABX700> anyone have citizenFour torrent ?
[00:30] <carina> daftykins: you're right, all join windows as soon as i get somehow this bios problem sorted out. Or am I looking it from the wrong angle or is it not weir that I can't enter bios even if I was not indtalling windows.
[00:30] <daftykins> 7JTABX700: that's against the rules of this entire network, illegal content. don't ask again.
[00:31] <daftykins> carina: BIOS is nothing to do with ubuntu either. i don't really know how to make this clearer :)
[00:31] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: Im getting 400-600 ms on everything
[00:32] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: are you wireless?
[00:32] <carina> Ok, that was clear enough. :D Even this  girl understands.
[00:32] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: I have tried both a wired and wireless connection, both are slow
[00:34] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: maybe you should restart your router / cable modem since the AT&T call, likely they were lying as support aren't always that bright.
[00:35] <pitoow> I set ctrl + 1 to my profile folder, but when i close the window and open it again, it didn't save the configuration.
[00:35] <pitoow> how to fix it?
[00:38] <tjdno> I am student and my major is Network and Security administration. My goal is to become a penetration tester. Any idea what kind of book that might help keep me ahead of my classes?
[00:38] <kokut> tjdno: might start by asking in #security
[00:38] <daftykins> i would ask your lecturers.
[00:39] <mieayam> tjdno: yeah, it's "hackers handbook"
[00:39] <kokut> tjdno: and #cryptography
[00:39] <mieayam> find it out, it's a good book
[00:39] <kuygo> Penetration Testing and Network Defense <== book from cisco its a nice read :)
[00:40] <kokut> tjdno: ##crypto
[00:40] <tonik> Hi! Is there a way to change what X RandR considers the preferred resolution+rate?
[00:40] <tjdno> Lecturers would help, but I needed help professionals who have grown alot in the field. Thanks Mieyam
[00:41] <tjdno> thanks kokut
[00:41] <kokut> there is so much hype about becoming a hacker right now, with all the attention that hacker groups and government survelliance is getting
[00:42] <tjdno> True kokut. Technology is my passion, and I hoping to contribute to the future
[00:43] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins Im back, i think I dc'd there
[00:43] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: did you give the router restart a try? and cable modem if it's separate, or whatever.
[00:43] <kuygo> tonik how much do you need to change it too.
[00:44] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: I have done that multiple times, unplugged it, let it sit for a min then powered it back up
[00:44] <aswesa> hola
[00:45] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: right but you've been on the phone with them now right? are you using ISP supplied DNS or custom?
[00:46] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: I do not know, but Ill tell you what... Ill call them up again before they close for the day.... besides what you just told me should there be anything else I should ask them?
[00:47] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: well, is it cable? what is the latency when pinging google over wired? (do it)
[00:47] <tonik> kuygo, why the question?
[00:47] <tonik> kuygo, I want 1920x1080@120 Hz
[00:48] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: I have uverse high speed internet, so cable... secondly I ping google and get a response of like 300 ms
[00:49] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: yeah but i want to hear what it is first hand on wired, by you running it now :)
[00:49] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: also, is it shared or are you the only one using it?
[00:49] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: I am wired right now and I am other only user
[00:50] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: "I am the only user"*
[00:51] <daftykins> LemonSqueeze: uh-huh, try a few other sites online, something local. try their own website (your ISP)
[00:53] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: I still think it is goddamn att's fault im having them run some more tests, and ill ask them what you asked me, Ill be back in a few
[00:53] <LemonSqueeze> daftykins: thanks btw
[00:54] <thequietone> okay, I have compared the lsmod with my install and a working live environment, the two have the same drivers loaded
[00:56] <thequietone> both have mac80211 rtl_pci,rtlwifi,rtl8188ee and cfg80211 mac80211,rtlwifi
[00:56] <daftykins> thequietone: so this was the issue of where it's refusing to connect to any network, still?
[00:57] <daftykins> tried a new user account?
[00:57] <thequietone> it connects to the network, but no connection actually goes through.
[00:57] <thequietone> pinging localhost works, pinging even 192.168.1.254 doesn't work
[01:00] <daftykins> thequietone: ah yeah i remember now. 14.10?
[01:00] <thequietone> yep
[01:00] <sgp667> hey guys is there a way to run "apt-get update" like from bashrc or in similar fashion just with out entering the password each time?
[01:00] <daftykins> thequietone: yeah create another user account, reboot (not log out) and try it out, see if it's any different
[01:01] <thequietone> could changing the wireless channel help?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> sgp667: you will need to set the command in sudoers to not need a password or set the sticky bit on the apt-get binary, either way is not secure
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> sgp667: you can tell software centre to check for updates manually, and flash up a warning when they are available
[01:02] <ActionParsnip>  sgp667 or, as I do, cron a task to run a script to check for updates
[01:02] <sgp667> ActionParnsnip: not secure says is all :(, thanks
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> sgp667: obviously cron as root, sudo doesn't work in crontabs
[01:03] <tonik> why the fuck can't I disable EDID and just use modelines?
[01:03] <SchrodingersScat> !profanity | tonik
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> tonik: you can, you just need a line in xorg.conf to ignore EDID
[01:03] <sgp667> well to be more secific I am hoping ot sue this with tmux but wont be ran as root I guess
[01:03] <tonik> [ 76074.950] (WW) RADEON(0): Option "UseEdid" is not used
[01:04] <tonik> ActionParsnip, ^  :(
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> tonik: http://askubuntu.com/questions/188060/force-video-mode-without-edid-information
[01:05] <kugo> tonik have you query xandr -q
[01:06] <kugo> tonik have you query xrandr -q *
[01:06] <thequietone> okay another user account didn't solve the problem
[01:07] <tonik> kugo, xrandr -q  what?
[01:08] <thequietone> I would really be happy if I could solve this without needing to reinstall totally, I have things that have taken hours to download
[01:08] <kugo> it will show current state of system tonik
[01:09] <tonik> kugo, and how does that help me?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: what is the issue?
[01:11] <thequietone> ActionParsnip, wlan connects to a network but doesn't ping anything besides localhost
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: can you ping the internal IP of your router?
[01:12] <thequietone> not even that
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: does the wifi interface get an IP via DHCP?
[01:12] <thequietone> yes
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: is there a route defined to shove all traffic down wlan0
[01:12] <kugo> tonik it will help with errors .
[01:13] <thequietone> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure, how can I find out?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: if you run: route
[01:13] <ki7rw> hmm, i've been reading articles that i can watch netflix with chrome but i keep getting some kind of error on any netflix stream - what am i missing? ubuntu 14.04
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: does the default gateway get set?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> ki7rw: use Chrome
[01:14] <ki7rw> that's what i'm using
[01:14] <thequietone> gateway is * for wlan0
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: then that's why
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> ki7rw: omgubuntu has a guide
[01:15] <thequietone> destination 192.168.1.0, gateway is *, genmask 255.255.255.0, U flag, 9 metric
[01:16] <thequietone> so ActionParsnip how do I adjust the gateway and destination of the routing tble?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: what is uour router's internal IP?
[01:16] <thequietone> 192.168.1.254
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.254 wlan0
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: can you now ping 192.168.1.254 ?
[01:19] <thequietone> I am still unable to ping my router's internal IP, 100% packet loss
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: have you tried rebooting your router, then your PC?
[01:20] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to page up in VNC? Is itr possible?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: as in, to scroll in an aplication's window?
[01:21] <cuddylier> Yeah, like scroll up past what you can normally see
[01:21] <cuddylier> Past what shows on the screen currently
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: is this in vim?
[01:22] <cuddylier> tigervnc
[01:22] <cuddylier> orQEMU
[01:22] <lickalott> gents, having an issue I can't seem to solve....   I have some NFS shares that are accessed by 3 different machines on my network.  It's worked in the past with 770 permissions (all three machines can access fine.  Same username and password, different UID's obviously).  I had to reload the OS on a windows box (one of the 3 machines) and now I have to have the permissions @ 777 to access the folders.   I'm wondering what changed and how to
[01:22] <lickalott>  I get it back?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: ok, I found this: http://shebang.brandonmintern.com/tips-for-remote-unix-work-ssh-screen-and-vnc/
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: is there not a sleeker solution to achieve your goal than VNC?
[01:23] <cuddylier> ActionParsnip: Doesn't say how to scroll up in VNC?
[01:23] <cuddylier> Well, it's a VPS panel so it has to use VNC
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: what do you do on the system once you connect via VNC?
[01:24] <cuddylier> Scroll up the screen to read more of the kernal panic
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: I see, does that not get writen to a text file too?
[01:24] <cuddylier> i don't think so normally
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: have you tried a different client that can send the keypresses using a soft button. I'm seeing this added as "features" in some clients
[01:26] <ratsbe> cuddylier: their is nothing secure. Microsft gave the USA all encryption keys. Open source is safer. But anything over the internet is unsafe.
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: possibly CTRL + PgUp
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: I assume you are using VNC through an SSH tunnel
[01:28] <cuddylier> I dunno, using Virtualizore
[01:28] <cuddylier> Virtualizor*
[01:28] <cuddylier> so whatever it does
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> ratsbe: unsafe is a bit of an embellishment
[01:29] <wad_> So I installed a firewire PCI card, rebooted, and I see it under lspci. But I have no /dev/raw1394. Any ideas?
[01:29] <ratsbe> ActionParsnip: secure from prying eyes is an uncertainty today.
[01:29] <wad_> (and dvgrab tells me it can't find a camera, either.)
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> ratsbe: and yet still people bank and teansfer money online...weird
[01:30] <ki7rw> no matter what i do, i can't stream netflix with chrome - looks like i have all the nss packages installed - i tried disabling the extensions also - nada
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: I'd ask the development team how you can send a PgUp signal to the server. They may be able to tell you
[01:31] <ratsbe> ActionParsnip: You can try to prevent it. But when companies like Microsoft gives up all encryption keys to the govt. Its pointless.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> ratsbe: it doesnt worry me any at all
[01:32] <ratsbe> ActionParsnip: it's just govts now like China or USA who can hack and get away with it.
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> ratsbe: I don't care
[01:33] <ki7rw> ratsbe: don't forget russia and hungary and......
[01:33] <UbuN2> hello linux community and a happy new year .
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> UbuN2: merry newyearmas to you :-)
[01:35] <wad_> When I do "modprobe raw1394" is says that raw1394 is not found. Hmm, what am I missing?
[01:35] <UbuN2> thanks :)
[01:35] <ratsbe> ki7rw: open source encryption is safer because the code can be inspected for back doors that Microsoft put in their soft ware.
[01:35] <wad_> Some sort of kernely thing.
[01:35] <ki7rw> of course
[01:35] <wad_> ratsbe, there is an easy way to communicate online that governments can't even hack into.
[01:36] <ki7rw> but openssl had a security issue that no one noticed for years
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> ki7rw: funny you should mention Russia ;)
[01:36] <rypervenche> How is any of this Ubuntu-related?
[01:36] <ki7rw> except for the NSA i'm sure
[01:36] <thequietone> finally it works~
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> wad_: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[01:36] <thequietone> thank you ActionParsnip
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: reboot all beter?
[01:37] <wad_> ratsbe, I wrote it up here: http://freedomgeek.quora.com/Secure-communication-Use-a-Raspberry-Pi
[01:37] <pitoow> everytime I set ctrl + 1 to my profile folder, but when i close the window and open it again, it didn't save the configuration. how to fix it?
[01:37] <ratsbe> wad_: govts can even form patterns of communication
[01:37] <wad_> ActionParsnip, let me look
[01:37] <thequietone> hell it's working just after I rebooted the gateway. needing to reboot the damn thing over and over more recently, should probably replace it soon :/
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> thequietone: believe it or not, your router is just like a PC. Reboots every now and again are good
[01:37] <wad_> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> ki7rw: ratsbe's IP shows s/he is from Russia
[01:38] <ratsbe> wad_: You forgot the fbi can kick your door in.
[01:38] <wad_> Actually, I'm on my router right now. I added a second NIC to a PC, and it's now a router.
[01:38] <ki7rw> any ideas as to why i can't get netflix to stream on ubuntu?
[01:38] <UbuN2> damn im still on natty what is the code name for 14.04
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ratsbe: not where I live
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> UbuN2: Trusty
[01:39] <asfswdgf> ubuntu still violating privcy with unity?
[01:39] <UbuN2> thanks ,, i will check it out
[01:39] <ratsbe> ActionParsnip: Yes vpn through a tor hides me from casual bums knowing my address.
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: it doesnt violate privacy
[01:39] <UbuN2> i didnt like gnome 3
[01:39] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: it does.
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> ratsbe: oh wow you are clever....
[01:40] <wad_> ratsbe, that's actually now a problem, with the method I describe in that blog post. Just encrypt your private key with a good passphrase, and have no swap partition. Even physical access to your hardware is futile, now.
[01:40] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: Automatically starts to send data to wikipedia, amazon, and gogle when you use the search option
[01:40] <wad_> s/now/not/
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: you are not uniquely identifiable by the services
[01:40] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: that is a lie.
[01:41] <asfswdgf> so unity still violates privacy.
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: it's well published and how Canonical "got around it"
[01:41]  * ki7rw wonders if customer support at netflix might be able to help
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: no, it doesnt
[01:41] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: you realize google can still track you.
[01:41] <wad_> ratsbe, I have a completely different approach to privacy. Try to figure out my real name and address, I dare you....
[01:41] <asfswdgf> I still have an Ubuntu 8.04 disk
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: I dont mind if google track me
[01:41] <asfswdgf> back before ubuntu went wrong.
[01:41] <ratsbe> ActionParsnip: where am I at now
[01:42] <asfswdgf> ratsbe: #ubuntu
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: you do realise that not only can you disable the suggestions, but if you don't use Unity the feature also isnt used
[01:42] <asfswdgf> le nsa
[01:42]  * ki7rw hates tor - complicates browsing too much for me
[01:42] <wad_> Yep, you've proably already figure out out: I don't try to hide.
[01:42] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: enabled by default
[01:42] <asfswdgf> not easily explained how to turn off.
[01:42] <asfswdgf> canacole threatened fixubuntu.com
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: nope, its only in Unity
[01:43] <asfswdgf> canacol has sold out.
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: so if like me, you install Ubuntu minimal then openbox, the search feature isnt installed or 'enabled by default'
[01:43] <AndChat|648704> Where am I now
[01:43] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: that defeats the point of ubuntu
[01:43] <asfswdgf> I might as well use CrunchBang
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: no because the crunchbang community is tiny
[01:44] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: it's not tiny
[01:44] <asfswdgf> O_o
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: compared to ubuntu's,..yes it is
[01:45] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: anything compared to something else can be made to look small
[01:45] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: take our sun and sirus
[01:45] <UbuN2> bad comparion .
[01:45] <UbuN2> bad comparison .
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: I like the Ubunu community and not only am I a huge contributor I am also an Ubutu member, so if it's ok with you I'll stick to Ubuntu, k?
[01:46] <Basketball> hey ActionParsnip
[01:46] <rebs> where can i ask questions relating to bash foo
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: hey dude
[01:46] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, do you remeber me
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> rebs: #bash is a good start
[01:46] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: I'm not forcing you to change.
[01:46] <rebs> oh good point
[01:46] <rebs> lol
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: its been time but yeah
[01:47] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: what do you contribute btw
[01:47] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, I am on fedora now
[01:48] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: what do you contribute btw?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActionParsnip
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: check the 'top contributors' link
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: how's it working out
[01:50] <UbuN2> i remember gusty lol
[01:50] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: so you just help people.
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: yes, here and on Launchpad. User support is a large part of any IT stuff
[01:50] <daftykins> it'd be nice to get back on topic now, everyone
[01:51] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: I've probably dealt with you in the past
[01:51] <daftykins> support queries with ubuntu only!
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: just educating :)
[01:51] <daftykins> Basketball: sounds like we won't be seeing you so often anymore then. enjoy fedora.
[01:51] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: remember the ubuntu usb bug that caused ubuntu to ignore usb's and try and get sources from a cd no matter wat?
[01:51] <asfswdgf> what*
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: yeah and there was a need for a symlink or remount....?
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: its not an issue now.
[01:52] <Basketball> daftykins, i still have ubuntu
[01:52] <daftykins> oh, goodie :)
[01:52] <Basketball> daftykins, seems like you were a little too happy
[01:52] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: I remember the day I got +q'd in here and called a troll
[01:52] <Basketball> that i was leaving
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: ok
[01:52] <asfswdgf> and also told that it's me fucking up not the installer as the guy ccouldn't reproduce it on a older copy of ubuntu but others could
[01:53] <asfswdgf> that was the day I stopped using Ubuntu
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: what's your point?
[01:53] <asfswdgf> that was the day I stopped using Ubuntu
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Ok.....
[01:53] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: here's to hoping that you never act like that guy :)
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: I'm not an op
[01:53] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: can Untiy put that stupid dock on the bottom of the screen yet?
[01:53] <BobTheSkull> Anyone here experimenting with Core?
[01:53] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: he wasn't either
[01:53] <asfswdgf> he had an op do it
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: yes if you can recode it. It's only software
[01:54] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: so it' still not supported out of the box.
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: my dock is on the bottom, but I use tint2
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: you cannot move the Unity launcher, no
[01:54] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: that's my only complaint against unity
[01:55] <daftykins> BobTheSkull: is that that rolling release thing? i think they made #ubuntu-core but it might be my memory
[01:55] <daftykins> !core
[01:55] <asfswdgf> I hate that
[01:55] <daftykins> yep nope
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: ok
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: why not tell us all the other things you hate....we are all dying to know
[01:55] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: if you don't mind, can I see a ss of your desktop?
[01:55] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: don't be sarcastic.
[01:56] <revo> hey all, can sum1 advise whats the next best thing in ubuntu similar todreamweaver ???
[01:56] <BobTheSkull> I'll look for that channel
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: I'm not on it ATM but I can get a simolar screenshot from my arhives
[01:56] <amn3zia> hi
[01:56] <asfswdgf> revo: you can use wine to run dream weaver
[01:57] <asfswdgf> revo: wine is in the ubuntu app center
[01:57] <revo> i have a crack version...will  it work ???
[01:57] <daftykins> revo: here's a tip, we don't want to know you're using illegal software.
[01:57] <asfswdgf> revo: Unfortunately I can't support you with that and that discussion is not condoned in this channel
[01:57] <daftykins> nor is it permitted on this entire network
[01:57] <asfswdgf> ^
[01:57] <revo> copy that, thx gents
[01:58] <asfswdgf> Discussing warez can get you +q +b or even glined.
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwrmbudrnej3w1t/raring.png?dl=0
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> revo: try bluefish. There are lots of wysiwyg html apps
[01:59] <revo> ActionParsnip,  i tried it, but i cant split the screen into 2 (code/web)
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: its basically that minus docky
[02:00] <revo> ActionParsnip,  do u knowhow is it done??
[02:00] <wlxmhls> hello, i mount an NTFS partition to /mnt directory. but some files/folders do not display by using thunar/ls . for example, I create a file named a.txt and write something in, then I ls /mnt, there is no a.txt listed. I can reopen a.txt and the content is there. but the 'a.txt' does not show up in linux box. I try Windows PE and can show the a.txt. I've no idea what's wrong. anyone knows?
[02:00] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: Archer + Ubuntu brown/orange theme?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> revo: not something I use, sorry
[02:00] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: will you marry me?
[02:00] <asfswdgf>  wlxmhls NTFS is poorly supported in Linux
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: I like wood based wallpapers.
[02:01] <asfswdgf> wlxmhls: I suggest if possible that you setup a ext4 file system and take advantage of Journaling
[02:01] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: the icons
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> wlxmhls: is the partition USB based?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: thats just the default Himanity theme
[02:02] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: lolwut
[02:02] <wlxmhls> asfswdgf: there are lots files in the NTFS partition. I cant switch to EXT4 in one day
[02:02] <asfswdgf> the usb thing
[02:02] <wlxmhls> ActionParsnip: It is SATA disk
[02:02] <BobTheSkull> daftykins: it was #snappy for their docker based layer that's on top of core.  Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[02:02] <asfswdgf> wlxmhls: I suggest that you backup the files you need into a FAT32 partition if possible
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: humanity theme in Ubuntu. It's the name of the orange icon set
[02:02] <asfswdgf> wlxmhls: you can then bring them over to your main drive and format that drive to be ext4
[02:02] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: the usb thing
[02:03] <asfswdgf> wlxmhls: NTFS is a horrible filesystem that is poorly supported in linux. When you can I suggest you switch to ext4.
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> wlxmhls: have you ran a chkdsk on the NTFS partition to make sure he data is consistent
[02:03] <wlxmhls> asfswdgf: FAT32 does NOT support a file bigger than 4G/2GB?
[02:03] <daftykins> BobTheSkull: np
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: NTFS is suported in the kernel now
[02:04] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: its poorly supported.
[02:04] <wlxmhls> ActionParsnip: Not chkdsk... Should I reboot to fulfill this?
[02:04] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: It's recomended against using for any daily use for anything requiring data security
[02:04] <asfswdgf> wlxmhls: 4gb
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: its fine as long as the NTFS is unmounted properly and so forth
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> wlxmhls: you will need a Windows OS to do the chkdsk
[02:04] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: data loss isn't worth the risk :/
[02:05] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: to do a chkdsk on windows for ntfs you require XP up iirc
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: some people have no issues with it. The partition may also be the Windows side of a dual / multiboot setup. Can't it
[02:06] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: that is a possibility
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: so NTFS will be needed in that situation, won't it? Unless suddenly youcan jnstall Windows on ext4
[02:06] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: why not add a third partition for sharing data? make it fat32
[02:06] <wlxmhls> ActionParsnip: I will try chkdsk. Windows PE can recognize the partition correctly
[02:06] <exslestonec> you should use  -o iocharset=utf8 when mounting
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: fat32 only goes to 4Gb which is quite restrictive
[02:07] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: I know
[02:07] <revo> asfswdgf,  which one is it...there are a few wine app ???
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: so to accommodate both OSes and the need for large files, NTFS is the omly solution
[02:07] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[02:07] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: :)
[02:08] <asfswdgf> revo: wine. it will specify that it is for running windows applications
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: so a 3rd party app... or just use Windows and Ubuntu as is and use NTFS without problem
[02:08] <revo> asfswdgf,  thx
[02:08] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: heh
[02:09] <revo> asfswdgf,  should i install additional add-ons as well ???
[02:09] <ki7rw> i just love it - netflix support says that i can't stream netflix on the ubuntu chrome browser while there are web sites that says it can - oh well
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> asfswdgf: makes sense doesnt it. Use he OS and let the do the tasks they can already do...or haul in some 3rd party app just cos....bit of a dumb idea
[02:09] <asfswdgf> revo: no.
[02:09] <asfswdgf> revo: well, what do you mean
[02:09] <andygraybeal> alright, i know i should install xubuntu or lubuntu, but i'm being stubborn a bit and the guy i'm doing this for wants unity.  i got an acer aspire netbook a0751h; it's got 2GB of memory.  it just runs unity very slow.  any recommendations to speed up unity?
[02:10] <asfswdgf> ActionParsnip: I wish you where gay :(
[02:10] <revo> asfswdgf,  it gives u on software centre at the botton additional installs
[02:10] <asfswdgf> andygraybeal: install video drivers
[02:10] <andygraybeal> asfswdgf, rock on thanks
[02:10] <asfswdgf> revo: no.
[02:10] <asfswdgf> andygraybeal: what are your specs?
[02:11] <revo> asfswdgf,  oki doki...so just keep to default
[02:11] <asfswdgf> ye
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> andygraybeal: what GPU do you use?
[02:11] <andygraybeal> asfswdgf, http://www.pcworld.com/product/128642/aspire-one-751h.html
[02:11] <asfswdgf> andygraybeal: your GPU isn't the fastest
[02:11] <asfswdgf> It's just a Intel one
[02:12] <asfswdgf> andygraybeal: Unity is a bit heavy due to it being built on Gnom3
[02:12] <asfswdgf> andygraybeal: Unity is a bit heavy due to it being built on Gnome3
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> andygraybeal: there is an intel driver installer,  omgubuntu has a guide
[02:12] <andygraybeal> rock on, i understand.
[02:12] <andygraybeal> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[02:12] <andygraybeal> omg to the rescue
[02:12] <revo> asfswdgf,  cani run simultanoius windows progras in wine ???
[02:13] <xangua> yes revo
[02:13] <xubuntu> xubuntu
[02:14] <asfswdgf> yes
[02:14] <asfswdgf> revo: yes
[02:14] <asfswdgf> revo: wine is just a win32 api wrapper for linux\
[02:14] <andygraybeal> ActionParsnip, this is exciting that intel did this!!!!!!!
[02:14] <asfswdgf> applications don't know they're not on windows.
[02:15] <revo> asfswdgf,  whats with the linux and the \ at the end
[02:15] <asfswdgf> It was an accident
[02:16] <revo> asfswdgf,  ahhh ..ok
[02:16] <asfswdgf> However Wine has been ported to phones, mac, and bsd
[02:16] <revo> asfswdgf,  like i mentioned there wr a few choices available on software centre
[02:16] <revo> just downloaded the one that says " wine windows loader"
[02:19] <asfswdgf> yea
[02:19] <daftykins> revo: you're a million times better off pursuing native solutions before messing around with wine :)
[02:19] <Guest45395> What application do you want via wine anyway?
[02:21] <designbybeck_> Plugged my GoPro Card into my new Ubuntu 14.04 setup and it gave me this error? ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/hexchat-stable
[02:21] <designbybeck_> doh not that
[02:21] <designbybeck_> this: http://www.pasteall.org/55967
[02:21] <designbybeck_> My GoPro card gave me this error: http://www.pasteall.org/55967
[02:22] <designbybeck_> anyone know why? It doesn't Mount
[02:23] <revo> daftykins,  come on guys, getting me confused now...
[02:23] <Poss> designbybeck, you need to install exfat:  sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[02:23] <designbybeck_> oh?
[02:24] <revo> daftykins,  so what the alternatives
[02:24] <Poss> designbybeck, look at the last part of the error, it is not recognising the filesystem. The exfat filesystem is not installed on ubuntu by default
[02:25] <designbybeck_> ..wow, that did it Poss thanks!
[02:25] <Poss> anytime :)
[02:25] <designbybeck_> as soon as I did that it worked
[02:25] <designbybeck_> good to know!
[02:25] <designbybeck_> cheers
[02:28] <amn3zia_> hi
[02:29] <daftykins> revo: http://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-dreamweaver/?platform=linux
[02:29] <daftykins> revo: bluefish was one you were suggested earlier
[02:29] <amn3zia_> q
[02:29] <revo> daftykins,  yeah, ha a look at aptana on youtube, seems more familiar/similar to dreamweaver
[02:30] <revo> daftykins,  cant find aptana on software centre, is this a pay app
[02:32] <revo> daftykins,  downloaded from their website, but it came in .zip folder, how do i get round to install this on os
[02:39] <lickalott> gents, having an issue I can't seem to solve....   I have some NFS shares that are accessed by 3 different machines on my network.  It's worked in the past with 770 permissions (all three machines can access fine.  Same username and password, different UID's obviously).  I had to reload the OS on a windows box (one of the 3 machines) and now I have to have the permissions @ 777 to access the folders.   I'm wondering what changed and how to
[02:39] <lickalott>  I get it back?
[02:42] <Basketball> daftykins, how do i turn on my cpu fan
[02:43] <daftykins> Basketball: should be handled by ACPI, that's not something you touch manually
[02:43] <Basketball> daftykins, how can i test to make sure it works
[02:43] <Basketball> i havent heard it run
[02:43] <daftykins> read lmsensors output coupled with inducing some CPU load
[02:44] <Basketball> daftykins, you know me what commands
[02:44] <daftykins> Basketball: again in english? :)
[02:44] <Basketball> daftykins, will you please tell me what commands to run
[02:45] <daftykins> no, sorry
[02:45] <Basketball> please
[02:45] <daftykins> !info lmsensors
[02:46] <daftykins> !info lm-sensors
[02:46] <daftykins> Basketball: install that.
[02:47] <Basketball> i did
[02:47] <daftykins> then run it - just "sensors" i think
[02:48] <Basketball> Adapter: Virtual device
[02:48] <Basketball> temp1:        +46.0°C  (crit = +120.0°C)
[02:48] <Basketball> coretemp-isa-0000
[02:48] <Basketball> Adapter: ISA adapter
[02:48] <Basketball> Core 0:       +44.0°C  (crit = +100.0°C)
[02:48] <Basketball> Core 1:       +46.0°C  (crit = +100.0°C)
[02:48] <unopaste> Basketball you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:48] <daftykins> Basketball: how long have you been coming in here and you don't know not to paste?
[02:54] <sim590> I have installed chromium on a fresh mint 17 installation. I can see that the option menu in chromium is not nicely decorated and integrated in the mint theme. I have gnome-icon-theme, gnome-icon-theme-full and symbolic packages installed. I thought it would be enough. Any idea ?
[02:55] <RNeville> Hello, when I plug a usb portable hd (ntfs file system) into my Ubuntu 14.04 system should nautilus immediate recognize this hd?
[02:55] <daftykins> !mint | sim590 not supported here i'm afraid
[02:55] <bubbasaures> sim590, mmmm minty sorry they have their own channel. ;)
[02:55] <TheTopBloke> Does anyone use rmate?
[02:55] <daftykins> RNeville: yes, if it's working.
[02:55] <RNeville> thx
[02:56] <RNeville> can I try to scan for the hd, or something - it is not being recognized by Nautilus ?
[02:56] <sim590> ubottu: thansk for the address.
[02:57] <sim590> daftykins: then.
[02:57] <daftykins> RNeville: yeah, open a terminal and run "dmesg | tail" and then paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com so we can see what's up
[02:57] <RNeville> k, just a moment, pls
[03:03] <RNeville> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9668944/
[03:03] <ChogyDan> is there a stripped down version of Ubuntu for a virtual machine install?
[03:04] <daftykins> ChogyDan: server? or grab mini.iso
[03:04] <ChogyDan> mk
[03:04] <daftykins> RNeville: it didn't need sudo, don't use sudo for all commands :)
[03:04] <daftykins> RNeville: no sign of the USB device being plugged in, try another port and re-run "dmesg | tail" until you see it
[03:04] <RNeville> k, thx, I guess that is a security breach, somewhat
[03:05] <RNeville> thx
[03:05] <RNeville> I'll try, my windows 10 machine recognized it, just now, no problem
[03:05] <daftykins> different physical computer = totally different story
[03:06] <RNeville> I realize that daftykins , thx though, I just meant I know that the drive is NTFS and is working, that is all.
[03:07] <daftykins> *nod*
[03:07] <daftykins> the above command shows what the kernel is seeing, so if it doesn't even notice it when plugged in, there must be something up with those USB ports
[03:07] <daftykins> you can also hold the drive / put your ear to it to see if the disk actually spun up or not
[03:08] <LanDi> have anyone tried Star Conflict  using a controller ?
[03:08] <Ben64> RNeville: you might also want to use the rear usb ports, especially if the drive doesn't have a separate power adapter
[03:08] <RNeville> I realize that daftykins , thx though, I just meant I know that the drive is NTFS and is working, that is all.
[03:09] <RNeville> thx, Ben64 , I hadn't realized that it might be a power problem to the drive!
[03:09] <daftykins> hmm wasn't any need to repeat that message
[03:10] <RNeville> sorry, daftykins , didn't realize I did
[03:10] <RNeville> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9668967/ The usb hd is now plug into rear of computer!
[03:12] <RNeville> I know this usb port was working as of yesterday.
[03:12] <Ben64> RNeville: the radeon stuff might be blocking the drive stuff we need to see
[03:12] <RNeville> k , Ben64
[03:12] <daftykins> RNeville: it's possible those graphics entries are spamming too fast to catch it, try running "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[03:12] <RNeville> k, daftykins
[03:15] <RNeville> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9668972/
[03:16] <daftykins> it's a truecrypt drive
[03:17] <smo_> hi
[03:17] <daftykins> i'm seeing two drives though, a passport and a My Book
[03:17] <RNeville> No, it was, but re-formated to NTFS; I do have truecrypt running on a larger usb drive now
[03:17] <RNeville> The passport drive is the one that I'm not seeing in Nautilus, as is NTFS
[03:17] <smo_> since few minutes i can t scrool down in page (all the system!) all session type scroll up works then down ok like two scrolls then nothing Oo, an idear :p
[03:17] <smo_> ?
[03:18] <daftykins> RNeville: try "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg1 /mnt"
[03:18] <monkeyofbrass> Hey guys, how do I go about getting Plex to read my 2nd hard drive?
[03:19] <daftykins> this isn't a plex support channel
[03:20] <RNeville> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9668996/
[03:20] <monkeyofbrass> so because this isn't a plex support channel you cant help me setup the hard drive to work with ubuntu correctly?
[03:21] <daftykins> monkeyofbrass: well, had you phrased it so... :)
[03:21] <intheguts> Hi
[03:21] <daftykins> RNeville: move it back to the Windows PC, chkdsk it then safely remove it then bring it back
[03:21] <daftykins> monkeyofbrass: so what's this disk? what file system?
[03:22] <RNeville> I didn't see the option to safely remove the disk - under Windows 10 ( I probably missed it)
[03:22] <monkeyofbrass> daftykins, let me take a look
[03:22] <daftykins> RNeville: hidden maybe, or right click in explorer
[03:24] <here4thegear> I'm working on a php (symfony) project using a virtualbox version of Trusty32 server. my local IDE pushes code to the server as a user (vagrant) but, the server will only properly serve the pages if I chown them to www-data what are my options here? How can I make it so that files owned by vagrant will be served?
[03:25] <here4thegear> files owned by vagrant:vagrant give me a 500 error in browser.
[03:25] <daftykins> here4thegear: add vagrant to the www-data group, or create a group that both www-data and vagrant are members of
[03:26] <here4thegear> daftykins: sweet. I can try that!
[03:26] <wad_> Hey guys. So I installed a firewire PCI card, and I see when with "lspci", but I have no /dev/raw1394 showing up. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[03:26] <daftykins> what even still uses firewire in this day and age 0o
[03:26] <monkeyofbrass> daftykins, the drive is NTFS
[03:27] <wad_> I've tried powering off and on my camcorder, plugging and unplugging the firewire cable... still nothing.
[03:27] <wad_> "modprobe raw1394" gives me an error
[03:27] <wad_> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.1
[03:27] <al_nz1> morning
[03:27] <wad_> 32-bit desktop edition.
[03:27] <al_nz1> How do I work out which gui I am running?
[03:27] <al_nz1> please
[03:27] <daftykins> monkeyofbrass: hmm, not ideal - "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[03:28] <bubbasaures> al_nz1, do you mean desktop?
[03:28] <daftykins> al_nz1: does it have the vertical icon bar on the left? that's unity
[03:28] <al_nz1> like gdm
[03:28] <monkeyofbrass> daftykins, is there a recommended partition to use for media files?
[03:28] <scatsear> wad_: 32 bit is slower
[03:28] <here4thegear> daftykins: your suggestion worked. thank you kindly
[03:28] <wad_> Oh, sorry. This is 64-bit, actually.
[03:28] <daftykins> here4thegear: no problemo!
[03:28] <al_nz1> daftykins: I need to stop the gdm/desktop service to install a nvidia driver
[03:29] <wad_> (I was thinking of a different computer for a moment.)
[03:29] <daftykins> al_nz1: what card is this? that's not always the best way to install drivers.
[03:29] <scatsear> monkeyofbrass: some say fat32
[03:29] <daftykins> monkeyofbrass: well for use directly with a Linux system, ext4
[03:29] <al_nz1> gtx470
[03:29] <daftykins> good lord no, not FAT32. not ever :P
[03:29] <al_nz1> I need 340.65 Nvidia
[03:30] <daftykins> al_nz1: why do you think you need v340?
[03:30] <scatsear> here4thegear: !
[03:30] <al_nz1> some other stuff I want to run wont work with the open source stuff
[03:31] <Basketball> can i have multiple workspace foer my dual monitors ie one for each monitor
[03:31] <al_nz1> so if gdm is a display manager, is unity also a display manager?
[03:31] <daftykins> al_nz1: no, i mean why do you think you need 340 vs say, 319
[03:32] <daftykins> al_nz1: sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 ; done - restart, happy ;)
[03:32] <al_nz1> ok
[03:32] <al_nz1> but just for knowledge sake
[03:32] <scatsear> al_nz1: usually unity installs lightdm display manager
[03:32] <al_nz1> scatsear: ta
[03:33] <daftykins> al_nz1: depending on what desktop you're using, you'd hit ctrl+alt+F1 to move to a TTY, login, run "sudo service lightdm stop" then chmod +x the file and sudo ./file
[03:33] <daftykins> but that's a mistake and you will be back here with problems in future :)
[03:34] <scatsear> al_nz1: You can toggle between both. Only difference I ever noticed is the login screen.
[03:34] <RNeville> daftykins: still no success, ran chkdsk ( had to turn Windows 10 machine off with this hd connected , in order to safely shutdown drive)
[03:34] <jimmyd> hi
[03:34] <RNeville> Reconnected to "rear" usb port, and Nautilus still doesn't see it
[03:34] <daftykins> RNeville: alright, re-run "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg1 /ext -o force" i think it is
[03:35] <RNeville> I'm not sure the drive is sdg1 , now, just a guess though
[03:35] <daftykins> RNeville: "sudo parted -l" to confirm then
[03:35] <RNeville> I think it is sdh, now, does that sound right
[03:37] <daftykins> RNeville: yep, keeps going down the alphabet
[03:37] <ki7rw> apparently, it turns out that chromium won't stream netflix but chrome will - now i'm happy again now that i installed chrome :-D
[03:37] <daftykins> yeah 'cause chromium doesn't have the DRM component i don't think
[03:37] <teward> ki7rw: known issue - problem is that Chromium and such don't have the DRM component
[03:38] <ki7rw> i thiought that they were the same thing - my mistake
[03:38] <daftykins> teward: ^5!
[03:40] <RNeville> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9669066/
[03:41] <teward> ki7rw: chrome is based off chromium, but is closed source and has some other things, so...
[03:41] <jimmyd> can i run voyager on the same hd with xubuntu 14.10
[03:41] <daftykins> RNeville: it needs to be 'sdh1'
[03:41] <daftykins> RNeville: and /mnt, not /ext
[03:41] <RNeville> thx daftykins
[03:41] <ki7rw> now, if only i can get the hdmi port to work
[03:42] <daftykins> RNeville: my bad, i must've had my attention diverted when i typed it wrong earlier
[03:42] <RNeville> no problem daftykins ; I appreciate any help, truly
[03:43] <wad_> Does anyone here have an idea what I can do to convince my firewire device to show up in /dev?
[03:44] <wad_> Google has stopped showing me useful things to try. :(
[03:45] <daftykins> wad_: "lsmod | grep 1394" ?
[03:45] <wad_> dmesg shows nothing when I plug or unplug.
[03:45]  * wad_ tries that
[03:45] <wad_> nothing
[03:45] <malimbar> does the firewire device show that it has power?
[03:45] <wad_> Yes, the camcorder is powered on.
[03:45] <wad_> I can see my PCI firewire card with lspci
[03:46] <wad_> But there is no /dev/raw1394 or /dev/fw0
[03:46] <wad_> And lsmod shows nothing.
[03:46] <daftykins> i don't even know if a driver module has '1394' in the name so i'm just guessing there
[03:46] <wad_> It's like the kernel needs me to tell it what driver to install.
[03:46] <daftykins> wad_: is the camera charged / mains powered?
[03:46] <wad_> Mains powered.
[03:46] <daftykins> 'cause firewire doesn't carry power of course
[03:46] <daftykins> cool
[03:46] <wad_> I can play video from the camera.
[03:46] <wad_> I've tried two different firewire cables.
[03:46] <wad_> I'm pretty sure it's a driver issue.
[03:47] <daftykins> no dmesg output when plugged in isn't encouraging, does it need to have a PC mode enabled or something?
[03:47] <daftykins> yeah seems like it
[03:47] <daftykins> i have no clue of firewire usage
[03:47] <wad_> I've gone through all menus on the camcorder.
[03:47] <wad_> Tried a variety of settings that seem to make sense.
[03:47] <mbff> Hello I have a ThinkPad L430 and can't find a linux bios update iso for my laptop, is it safe just to use the windows bios update iso?
[03:47] <RNeville> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9669090/ Still doesn't appear under Nautilus
[03:48] <daftykins> RNeville: did it actually mount now?
[03:49] <RNeville> I'm a newbie Linux user, but it looks like it when I run sudo parted -l
[03:50] <daftykins> RNeville: nah parted just shows the disk info, nothing to do with mounts. try "mount | pastebinit"
[03:50] <RNeville> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9669103/
[03:51] <daftykins> RNeville: do you see the data if you run "ls /mnt" ?
[03:51] <simova> hello
[03:51] <RNeville> yes daftykins
[03:52] <daftykins> RNeville: just use nautilus to browse to /mnt then :)
[03:52] <simova> hello
[03:52] <RNeville> I'll try
[03:53] <RNeville> Okay, is this a bug in Nautilus, pls?
[03:53] <daftykins> simova: yes, hi. do you have a support question?
[03:54] <daftykins> RNeville: no, your disk wasn't safely removed so it couldn't be auto mounted without a force... if you type "sudo umount /mnt" then unplug and replug it might come up auto now
[03:55] <RNeville> k , once I move the need files off this hd to my truecrypt volume, I'll try that, thx again
[03:55] <daftykins> np
[03:55] <l0rdn1x> Does anyone know why my bluetooth adapter would explode in dmesg ?
[03:59] <kaste> hello, I am linking a program and am getting error messages that I didn't get on gentoo and arch
[03:59] <kaste> undefined reference to symbol '__errno_location@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
[03:59] <kaste> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[03:59] <kaste> any idea why that is?
[04:01] <Poss> grrr mtp really grinds my gears, i can't believe how often gmtp fails
[04:01] <kaste> the libpthread has a reference to that function, glib2 provides it and it is in the linking line after the lib
[04:02] <andygraybeal> grrr... i got the bloody intel gma500 video card :(
[04:03] <Poss> i actually find mtp embarresing,  every time a friend connects their phone to my computer it fails to work, and then takes about an hour of transferring and billion gmtp errors to sync any files.  I really thought they would have got android working out of the box by this point.
[04:04] <daftykins> Poss: works for me.
[04:04] <daftykins> but it's a Microsoft technology, so bear that in mind
[04:04] <Poss> some devices work for me, the vast majority do not
[04:04] <daftykins> or rooted in, i think
[04:10] <RNeville> thx, again, daftykins
[04:11] <selv> hi there ! i have a problem in ubuntu start up ! it takes a lot of time to boot :(
[04:11] <selv> i checked dmesg and found  audit_printk_skb: 150 callbacks suppressed takes a lot of time
[04:12] <selv> can anyone help me fix this ?
[04:13] <Poss> daftykins, its a known bug with importance high, its been known about for months but its unassigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1314556
[04:13] <daftykins> selv: checked out - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2020528.html ?
[04:14] <selv> thanks and also this takes lot of time perf samples too long (2780 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000
[04:15] <Guest28403> How do I enable raid after installing ubuntu desktop? (I have two hard drives; one with the desktop install and another without any partitions)
[04:17] <daftykins> you had to do it earlier
[04:17] <Guest28403> daftykins, do you mean it can't be done with a re-partitioning?
[04:18] <daftykins> you're saying you want RAID-1 yes? mirroring? pretty sure you need to start with installation
[04:18] <daftykins> !raid
[04:19] <selv> daftykins : how to fix the other issue ? "perf samples too long (2780 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000"
[04:20] <daftykins> pass.
[04:21] <Guest28403> ok thanks
[04:23] <wad_> I found something in dmesg!
[04:23] <wad_> [    1.177867] firewire_ohci 0000:03:02.0: failed to reset ohci card
[04:29] <jm511> Hi
[04:31] <jm511> nobody here ?
[04:31] <daftykins> jm511: ask a question
[04:32] <jm511> Is this only for support ? or for chatting ? with others ppl ? 1337?
[04:34] <mieayam> it's 23.22 new york times
[04:34] <mieayam> no wonder, it's so quiet
[04:34] <jm511> yp mieayam
[04:34] <daftykins> jm511: support in here, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <jm511> so how can i go there ?
[04:35] <daftykins> join it ;)
[04:35] <teward> jm511: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <jm511> i never ever use IRC in my life
[04:35] <jm511> lol
[04:35] <wlxmhls> hi, is the Extrem Tux Racer the upgraded version of orignal Tux racer?
[04:38] <filipemanuelofs> Hi, I have some questions about what installation type should use in my notebook with 320GB HD and 120GB SSD, guys can help me? I see a lot of tutorials but most of them won't speaks some mount point like /tmp or /var.. what I choose for them?
[04:39] <bubbasaures> filipemanuelofs, Note how old the tutorials are.
[04:39] <Blue11> you could always make root the ssd and /home your hard drive
[04:40] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: and questions about write/performance?
[04:40] <mieayam> flipemanuelofs: i wonder how you put the additional hd to your notebook
[04:40] <filipemanuelofs> bubbasaures: hmmm
[04:40] <Blue11> well the ssd would be much faster - for your system -- /home probably doesn't need to speed
[04:41] <filipemanuelofs> mieayam: changed optical drive for new SSD
[04:41] <mieayam> ow
[04:41] <bubbasaures> filipemanuelofs, write and performance is nominal in changing here dramatically, just install, a separate home some prefer.
[04:41] <Blue11> this might better be a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:42] <rebs> so my alt tab popup just disappeared
[04:42] <rebs> wtf
[04:42] <al_nz1> can someone please explain to me how I can avoid having to go into a specific directory to execute my programs with "./program" - I know its something to do with PATHS
[04:42] <bubbasaures> rebs, no swearing or acronyms please.
[04:42] <rebs> kk sorry
[04:43] <rebs> al_nz1, http://www.funtoo.org/Linux_Fundamentals,_Part_2
[04:43] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: maybe, I got lost here.. I have on my screen 2GB for swap area, 6GB for /var, 50GB for /home all this on HD and 262GB free space
[04:44] <rebs> look at the path section
[04:44] <rebs> was just reading that last night ;]
[04:44] <filipemanuelofs> i dont know how get better
[04:44] <rebs> so what is the program that is running that popup that shows up when you alt-tab so i can restart it?
[04:45] <al_nz1> rebs: global PATH can also be defined in a file right?
[04:45] <geemili> Does anyone know how to make java through apt-get after I've installed it manually?
[04:46] <Blue11> better then what?
[04:46] <geemili> Opps. I meant: Does anyone know how to make apt-get stop installing java after I've installed it manually?
[04:47] <Blue11> the person having the paths issues this might help http://pkill-9.com/bash-aliases-work-ssh-connection/
[04:47] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: If I do not choose the / tmp and allocate a room for her, for example, where it is created? The system will ignore?
[04:47] <filipemanuelofs> allocate spaxe*
[04:47] <filipemanuelofs> c*
[04:48] <Blue11> how is you system partitioned?  you uefi or ms-dos?
[04:48] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: I think is uefi, how can I verify this?
[04:49] <al_nz1> rebs: its a .bin file I need to make executeable
[04:49] <al_nz1> i mean runnable from root
[04:49] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: how is your system partitioned?  uefi or ms-dos?
[04:50] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: at this moment I have none OS, free HD and SSD, just an live usb with ubuntu
[04:50] <al_nz1> is there anyway to make a .bin file executeable so that I dont always have to type ./program.bin
[04:51] <rebs> well to make a file executable its usually chmod +x file
[04:51] <EriC^^> al_nz1: add it to your $PATH or put it in your ~/bin
[04:51] <EriC^^> if ./ works it's already +x
[04:51] <rebs> this is true
[04:51] <al_nz1> EriC^^: yes its already +X
[04:51] <rebs> so then you just need to read the link i sent above al_nz1
[04:52] <EriC^^> put it in ~/bin
[04:52] <al_nz1> i just dont want to have to change directory and I need to copy to ~/bin ?
[04:52] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: for me -- I make swap area 1.5 times physical ram - so for a 2G system, I make swap 3G (God help you if you swap that much) == i'd make root (/) 50G and then create an lvm (logical volume) for /home
[04:52] <al_nz1> rebs: yes, but that didnt deal with bin files
[04:52] <al_nz1> EriC^^: just the bin file? in ~/bin ?
[04:52] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: that assumes an ms-dos scheme
[04:52] <EriC^^> al_nz1: that depends totally on how it's written, give it a shot though
[04:53] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: you can use gparted to make create the paritions, however the file system MUST be un-mounted -- so you'd need to boot off of a dvd or usb stick
[04:54] <al_nz1> EriC^^: so ~ refers to home - but I dont have a bin directory under home
[04:54] <Blue11> there's no place like ~
[04:54] <EriC^^> al_nz1: yeah it's not default
[04:54] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: I think my question is simple, but I've been read much tutorials that caused me confusion, I want to have speed in my operating system and some programs such as IDEs, some games and etc. Nothing too specific. I think my problem aggravated by my innocence about the partition issue.
[04:55] <ron__> #podcast
[04:55] <EriC^^> al_nz1: make a dir there manually
[04:56] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: remember that linux treats another hard drive or ssd as another folder -- so /home can be anywhere.   I guess that question is what do you want to do with your system?  gaming?  server?  desktop?
[05:00] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: desktop. I develop some things (Java EE / Java / Android) then I would that Eclipse was fast running. Soon I will try to climb a virtual machine with Mac to develop for iPhone, this requires performance and speed. But my notebook is primarily desktop. Two or three games (Counter Strike Source, etc), maybe, but nothing compared to a semi professional gamer.
[05:00] <ron__> exit
[05:00] <filipemanuelofs> sorry my bad english anyway Blue11
[05:02] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: no worries.   this is my recommendation - I'd make the root directory ( / ) and swap on the ssd, and put /home on your hard drive.
[05:04] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: Thanks for patience. Hmm.. root directory with 115GB and 5 for swap area? And, /home entire space of HD (320GB)?
[05:04] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: so sda1 might be your swap 1.5 times bigger then physical ram (so 2 G of ram, becomes 3G of swap) -- make root ( / ) sda2, the rest of your ssd -- and put /home on sdb1
[05:05] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: yeah something like that --
[05:06] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: your english is better then my portugeese
[05:07] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: haha, thank you, still learning .. is one of my promises for 2015
[05:08] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: keep asking -- don't be afraid to try.
[05:08] <terraformer> Hey guys, anybody knows a way how to stop the Unity dash remembering the search when I open it again? Every time I open the dash it shows me the last search and it's results and it's irritating. Thanks a lot :)
[05:09] <EriC^^> terraformer: click on settings > privacy
[05:09] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: I'm on the "Installation Type" where you choose the partitions, etc. I'll follow you recommended.
[05:10] <Blue11> filipemanuelofs: is a private message ok?
[05:11] <filipemanuelofs> Blue11: Ok ok.
[05:12] <terraformer_> EriC^^ sorry i got disconnected. You were saying.. (writing) :D
[05:12] <jimmy51v_> can someone ping home.nedburns.com and tell me what it resolves to for you?
[05:12] <EriC^^> terraformer_: no problem, go to settings > privacy
[05:14] <terraformer_> EriC^^ ok im there - then...
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> jimmy51v_: join ##networking for network problems
[05:15] <EriC^^> terraformer_: files & applications
[05:17] <ChogyDan> any advice on what to install to setup a minimal desktop environment from an Ubuntu-server install?  (this is for setting up a vm install)
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> !minimal | ChogyDan
[05:18] <terraformer_> EriC^^ it's not about the privacy and search history. The problem for me is that every time I search something for example 'Sound' the dash shows me the results, I select it and then the dash deactivates and when I opened it again the dash shows my previous search for 'Sound'. I need the dash to show up empty and ready for a new search. That's my issue
[05:19] <EriC^^> terraformer_: oh
[05:19] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: yes, but what should I install to get a minimal desktop, ie more than a terminal prompt?  I am thinking about lubuntu... but I'm not sure
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> ChogyDan: you want to install lubuntu from server to install virtualbox and run minimal? lol
[05:22] <Prantestor> Hi everyone. Is it possible to use a local gnupg key on a remote system over ssh?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> !windowmanagers | ChogyDan
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !gpg | Prantestor
[05:24] <Prantestor> ubottu: Thanks for the response, I'll take a look
[05:26] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: no :), I want to install minimal/server on virtualbox, then maybe lubuntu.  Ill look at the factoid
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> ChogyDan: kk good luck
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !info blackbox | ChogyDan also interesting
[05:33] <m1r0> Hello y'all-- I'm having a bit of an issue with my wireless connectivity with my Realtek 802.11n WLAN Adapter-- at random points over a short interval, I will be disconnected from wifi and will have to reconnect manually-- any idea what might cause that?
[05:33] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: probably fluxbox or openbox over blackbox, fwiw
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> m1r0: maybe a firmware or driver update can fix this, check realteks website for linux drivers
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | m1r0
[05:50] <sonicx>  ? is this the Ubuntu help room if not can some one help me get there
[05:50] <cfhowlett> sonicx, ask your ubuntu questions
[05:52] <omosoj> how do i know whether my system can handle 64-bit?
[05:52] <sonicx> can Xubunto run on a celeron D
[05:52] <cfhowlett> sonicx, yes.
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> omosoj: if you try to install 64bit ubuntu, and it works you have 64bit
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> omosoj: if not, you will get a warning wrong architecture
[05:54] <cfhowlett> omosoj, actually if your system can even BOOT the 64 bit version, you're good
[05:54] <sonicx> oo and did u guys ever find out what made that black line in firefox
[05:54] <cfhowlett> omosoj, so make that bootable USB and test!
[05:55] <omosoj> lotuspsychje, i have to download the iso to run it... each version is 1Gb. i'd rather not download 2 entire iso's to test it. is there any other way?
[05:55] <cfhowlett> sonicx, NO idea what you're talking about
[05:55] <cfhowlett> omosoj, 32 bit will run on 64 machine
[05:55] <daftykins> omosoj: what's your CPU make and model # ?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> omosoj: lookup your system online to check architecture
[05:55] <davethenoob> Hello all. Can someone point me in the right direction on issuing bash commands without a complete, interactive ssh login?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !bash | davethenoob
[05:56] <sonicx> in xubunto and Linux xfce on some computers u would have a black line it the text bar
[05:56] <omosoj> i just looked it up -- is says instruction set 64-bit. is that what i'm looking for?
[05:56] <davethenoob> lotuspsychje: Remote
[05:56] <cfhowlett> sonicx, sounds like a graphics issue.
[05:57] <cfhowlett> omosoj, that's it - 64 bit capable.
[05:57] <omosoj> awesome! thanks guys
[05:57] <sonicx> but only in fire fox
[05:57] <davethenoob> lotuspsychje: I'd like to issue, say, a service shutdown remotely without an interactive ssh connection to the remote device.
[05:58] <daftykins> omosoj: what kind of computer is it?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> davethenoob: you want a graphical remote?
[05:58] <sonicx>  me?
[05:59] <davethenoob> lotuspsychje: No. I *think* what I want is something like rpc over ssh. I just want to issue a command remotely, but not interactively. I suppose I could write a quick script to ssh into the remote machine, issue the command, and disconnect. I just assumed there was some rpc style mechanism for this that's more appropriate.
[06:00] <omosoj> daftykins, thinkpad
[06:01] <Xbowman> Hello
[06:01] <daftykins> hi
[06:01] <sonicx> I don't have it right now  but it is a laptop toshiba  old one
[06:01] <cfhowlett> sonicx, come back with details.  no data = no answers
[06:02] <Xbowman> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu. I have an amd radeon card and whenever the installer shows a GUI the screen goes crazy! Could anyone help me?
[06:02] <sonicx> lol ok
[06:02] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Xbowman
[06:02] <sonicx>  I will
[06:03] <cfhowlett> sonicx, note: lubuntu is optimized for older / lower specification hardware.
[06:03] <Xbowman> Ok, thanks :D
[06:03] <pixelkat> is ubuntu phone ever being released?
[06:03] <cfhowlett> !touch | pixelkat
[06:03] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, yes.  see reddit.com
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> pixelkat: in febraury
[06:03] <Xbowman> What!? there will be ubuntu for phones?
[06:03] <pixelkat> wooooooo
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Xbowman, old news ...
[06:03] <daftykins> as seen in the above message it's off topic in this channel
[06:06] <ayycuhhh> hello
[06:06] <ayycuhhh> anyone here
[06:06]  * omosoj is not here.
[06:06] <cfhowlett> !ask | ayycuhhh,
[06:07] <Xbowman> How do I enter a boot parameter?
[06:08] <cfhowlett> Xbowman, from grub?
[06:08] <Xbowman> ?
[06:08] <Xbowman> You can type commands in grub? wait, I'm confused
[06:08] <cfhowlett> Xbowman, of course.  read the message in grub ...
[06:09] <Xbowman> I've never actually read the message in grub. lol
[06:09] <cfhowlett> Xbowman,  ... yeah, well ...
[06:10] <Xbowman> Ok. So just to make sure I've got it right...
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> Xbowman: wich ubuntu version are you trying?
[06:10] <Xbowman> latest
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> Xbowman: try 14.04.1 first and see if you can bypass screen problems
[06:11] <Xbowman> Do I just navigate to "install ubuntu" and type "nomodeset"?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> Xbowman: 14.10 has a lot of screen issues
[06:11] <Xbowman> Really?
[06:11] <Xbowman> I didn't know that. I thought it was just my computer. lol
[06:11] <daftykins> Xbowman: follow the link and it shows you how. read the page.
[06:18] <nihalii> i used to have a boyfriend named "ubuntu once"
[06:18] <nihalii> he would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[06:18] <nihalii> i used to have a boyfriend named "ubuntu once"
[06:18] <nihalii> he would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[06:18] <nihalii> i used to have a boyfriend named "ubuntu once"
[06:18] <nihalii> he would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[06:18] <unopaste> nihalii you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:26] <TheTopBloke> With all the users on this channel, I'd like to see one tutorial/lesson/blog/what have you from as many members as possible that doesn't SUCK! Please submit something relevant that would teach a newbie with half a brain something beyond "hello world". Thank you.
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !language | TheTopBloke
[06:27] <TheTopBloke> This is an expirement, so participation is encouraged. Don't be shy.
[06:27] <daftykins> TheTopBloke: based on what?
[06:27] <TheTopBloke> Anything
[06:27] <daftykins> no, your comments, what 'gides' are they based on?
[06:28] <daftykins> *guides
[06:28] <TheTopBloke> well this is a ubuntu channel, so something relevant to ubuntu
[06:28] <Auv> If you don't like the Ubuntu community, there are many other distros.
[06:28] <daftykins> you've got it backwards. you're saying resources suck, so i'm asking you to tell me WHAT resources suck.
[06:28] <Auv> /part is the door.
[06:28] <dts|pokeball> so your comments are based on nothing?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> TheTopBloke: do you have an actual question?
[06:29] <TheTopBloke> I'm looking for tutorials, blogs, lessons, arguments, discussions, that have substance
[06:29] <daftykins> to learn what?
[06:29] <daftykins> you haven't asked a question
[06:29] <daftykins> !manual
[06:29] <daftykins> you can start there.
[06:29] <TheTopBloke> Don't be offended, at least not yet.
[06:29] <Xbowman> ???
[06:29] <Auv> TheTopBloke: Don't you have better stuff to do than troll a Linux channel? :p
[06:30] <TheTopBloke> It's a simple question, can anyone send me a link to something they've actually learned something from
[06:30] <EriC^^> TheTopBloke: your offer sounds a lot like http://xkcd.com/749/
[06:30] <EriC^^> TheTopBloke: should we be worried?
[06:30] <Xbowman> TheTopBloke. What kind of tutorials do you want?
[06:30] <TheTopBloke> LOL
[06:30] <Xbowman> You mentioned "Hello World". I assume something about programming?
[06:30] <daftykins> TheTopBloke: get lost.
[06:30] <TheTopBloke> I guess not
[06:30] <cryptodan> www.google.com
[06:31] <dts|pokeball> ^]
[06:31] <TheTopBloke> like I said, this is ubuntu, so sys admin would make sense
[06:31] <TheTopBloke> but I'm open to anything
[06:31] <dts|pokeball> where would Hello world! be involved in sys admining?
[06:31] <TheTopBloke> cryptodan: that's weak
[06:31] <Auv> !offtopic
[06:31] <dts|pokeball> TheTopBloke, so is your request
[06:31] <Xbowman> TheTopBloke. Are you trolling? Cause You're confusing the hell outa me
[06:31] <cryptodan> you said you were open to anything
[06:31] <daftykins> calm down everyone, engaging such attention needers is giving them what they want
[06:32] <TheTopBloke> No, I'm not trolling, just read what I am asking of you. It's not that hard. But what I'm find is that my conclusion are true
[06:32] <Auv> TheTopBloke: http://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntu
[06:32] <TheTopBloke> you're right crypto, but google, is waaaay too vague
[06:32] <daftykins> TheTopBloke: either phrase a support question or leave, thanks.
[06:32] <TheTopBloke> but thanks for playing
[06:32] <TheTopBloke> reddit is also too vague
[06:32] <rww> TheTopBloke: #ubuntu is for helping people with support questions. If you have an actual Ubuntu support question, please ask it. If not, please go elsewhere, such as #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there.
[06:32] <TheTopBloke> links to other links don't count.
[06:32] <Xbowman> Seriously, please kick this guy
[06:33] <TheTopBloke> therefore reddit, google, don't cut it
[06:33] <dts|pokeball> TheTopBloke, i did read what you asked. it is far to, as you say, vague and weak.
[06:33] <gagalicious> i would like to stack switches atop one another to increase the number of available ports for my dnsmasq server. is there a problem with that? overall i've tested stacking and "it works"
[06:33] <TheTopBloke> OK, yer right. Let me say, I'll give you a couple of topics
[06:33] <TheTopBloke> user permissions
[06:33] <Auv> TheTopBloke: Please ask a support question or go to offtopic.
[06:34] <Auv> Honestly there's someone trying to ask a real question here, so bugger off.
[06:34] <Auv> gagalicious: Honestly I'm not experienced at all with it but sometimes the best way is to try it on testing hardware and if it doesn't work it doesn't
[06:35] <gagalicious> does anyone have any issues with this? experience before?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: maybe the ##networking guys might also know
[06:35] <cryptodan> gagalicious: stack them how?
[06:36] <gagalicious> ...
[06:36] <gagalicious> is freenode the oldest irc there is?
[06:36] <gagalicious> also the most popular?
[06:36] <daftykins> that's not on topic. for freenode history, ask in #freenode
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: your in #ubuntu here
[06:37] <rww> gagalicious: no and yes in that order
[06:41] <proxybrain> in gnome-terminal non-ascii characters don't seem to be displayed with the same font as ascii characters, is there a way to fix that?
[06:41] <daftykins> switch to a font that has good UTF coverage perhaps?
[06:42] <proxybrain> daftykins: I'm using the same font (Andale Mono) as I do on my mac
[06:42] <proxybrain> on the latter, the font looks as expected in iterm2
[06:43] <daftykins> why would a font from a mac be ok on Linux? :)
[06:43] <proxybrain> I installed Andale Mono via the msttcorefonts package
[06:43] <proxybrain> as you say, it may not have the proper coverage
[06:44] <daftykins> mmm, microsoft font on Linux, even less chance :D
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> are there any obligations towards canonical if you want to start a computer store, selling hardware with ubuntu?
[06:51] <zero56> is there an alternative to jupiter for 14.04
[06:51] <daftykins> i think there's a whole page on that somewhere, lotuspsychje
[06:51] <XxOblivionxX> how to register name in chanserv?
[06:51] <daftykins> XxOblivionxX: join #freenode and ask them
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: you remember the link?
[06:51] <daftykins> no sir
[06:51] <XxOblivionxX> ok.
[06:53] <proxybrain> daftykins: all other monospaced fonts I tried have the same "problem"
[06:53] <daftykins> hmm, beats me then
[06:53] <zero56> Dont see it.... my pc is burning up
[06:54] <proxybrain> daftykins: alright, np, thanks for your suggestions in any case
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: found some interest here: http://partners.ubuntu.com/partner-programmes/retail
[06:54] <daftykins> no problemo
[06:54] <daftykins> ah-har
[06:54] <daftykins> zero56: see what?
[06:55] <daftykins> zero56: my crystal ball is in my other trousers, today
[06:55] <zero56> lol not that
[06:55] <gagalicious> i am using dnsmasq that's all
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-cpufreq | zero56
[06:56] <zero56>  its a just that i need a power saving mode.
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> zero56: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter
[07:03] <zero56> Thanks
[07:03] <Seannon_> Hi All
[07:06] <Seannon_> I'm having an issue with the SSO login to ubuntu forums, I can log into SSO, it shows that I have logged into the forums, but I cannot log in to the forums, and since I can't log in, I can't post in the resolution thread...
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Seannon_: did you read this before SSO login? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230004
[07:10] <Seannon_> yes, I did...
[07:11] <TheTopBloke> what?
[07:11] <EriC^^> blue
[07:11] <TheTopBloke> red
[07:12] <EriC^^> what?
[07:12] <Never_> heidiho sry dont know if right channel but MY HANDY IS BROKEN I NEED A NEW ONE NOW (i waited as long as i could ;-), but now I need one and i havent the time to look for hours (new job;-) .......so is there a handy with ubuntu on it or a handy which works with it for sure???
[07:12] <daftykins> Never_: not yet, it's being worked on.
[07:12] <daftykins> this isn't really a mobile phone shopping channel ;)
[07:12] <Never_> ;-((((
[07:13]  * andrew_46 is still wondering what a handy is....
[07:13] <daftykins> i wouldn't have known what you meant if i hadn't lived with Germans for a while
[07:13] <daftykins> German term for mobile.
[07:13] <Never_> i know and i didnt read terms ....
[07:13]  * daftykins sharpens the penguins
[07:13] <dts|pokeball> hehe
[07:14] <dts|pokeball> no man has ever survived more than 3 rounds with tux
[07:14] <TheTopBloke> what? don't be ridiculous
[07:14] <Seannon_> I unticked my name in the SSO login, and it still comes up to the vbulletin message...
[07:14] <dts|pokeball> i am never ridiculous
[07:15] <TheTopBloke> Is there an age limit here?
[07:15] <Never_> HANDY = MOBILE ^^
[07:15] <dts|pokeball> you cant really enforce an age limit in irc TheTopBloke ...
[07:16] <dts|pokeball> just a stupidity level, as you saw earlier ;)
[07:16] <Never_> and yes germen
[07:16] <Never_> *a
[07:16] <TheTopBloke> aye carumba
[07:16] <andrew_46> Don't mention the war....
[07:16] <Never_> and yes another chat with pimbas^^
[07:16] <daftykins> aaaaand let's get back onto the channel topic of ubuntu support.
[07:17] <Seannon_> for the SSO do I need to just start a completely new SSO login just to get to leave a message to ask for help?
[07:19] <Seannon_> lotuspsychje any ideas?
[07:21] <TheTopBloke> Can I possibly, possibly without reproach, without exile, get back to my original question, which although some dimwitted minds did not consider on topic is in fact in the top, might I possibly be allowed to purvey the question once more?
[07:22] <daftykins> ask a legitimate support question and someone might answer.
[07:22] <daftykins> carry on with the same drivel from before and you'll ellicit the same response.
[07:22] <TheTopBloke> legit, = relative
[07:22] <TheTopBloke> oh really
[07:22] <TheTopBloke> then forget it.
[07:22] <daftykins> cya
[07:22] <TheTopBloke> le duche
[07:23] <daftykins> hey, you're the one that can't form a question :)
[07:23] <TheTopBloke> what is wrong with you, seriously?
[07:24] <daftykins> too many penguins.
[07:24] <TheTopBloke> I would have thought, clowns, but ok.
[07:24] <Never_> bebe nonanswering and non helping imba-cocky-chat nr.x cya
[07:25] <impeldown> hi guys how can i fix ubuntu 12.04 boot up? i tried mv'ing /bin/sh into /bin/hs
[07:25] <daftykins> "fix" ? what's it doing?
[07:26] <impeldown> previous version of ubuntu i can do kernel panic
[07:26] <impeldown> ie. init=/bin/bash
[07:26] <impeldown> then mount -o remount,rw /
[07:26] <daftykins> what about recovery mode?
[07:27] <impeldown> now, editing grub with init=/bin/bash didn't do the trick
[07:27] <daftykins> that init method isn't standard i don't think
[07:27] <daftykins> !recovery
[07:28] <impeldown> recovery mode says Failed to spawn friendly-recovery pre-start process: unable to execute: no such file or directory
[07:29] <impeldown> i bet it searching for the /bin/sh
[07:29] <daftykins> yeah probably :P what made you rename that?
[07:29] <daftykins> you might want to make up some live boot media to fix this one further
[07:30] <impeldown> just, testing some irc client if i could change the shell eg. ./exec
[07:30] <impeldown> then i tried renaming bin/sh if ./exec will work
[07:30] <EriC^^> impeldown: it was working before you renamed /bin/sh ?
[07:30] <impeldown> anv suddenly rebooted the system without renaming back to /bin/sh
[07:31] <impeldown> yup EriC^^
[07:31] <EriC^^> use init=/bin/hs in your kernel line
[07:31] <impeldown> hmm,. lemme try it
[07:32] <ndut2-h4x0r> hey how are ya all
[07:35] <impeldown> doesn't work /bin/hs
[07:36] <daftykins> live session time
[07:36] <impeldown> yes. will try the live cd.
[07:37] <impeldown> kernel panic has changed the way it was
[07:38] <TheTopBloke> no it hasnt
[07:40] <dts|pokeball> pretty sure its evolved...
[07:45] <TheTopBloke> shh
[07:46] <modelengine> hello all, i'm wondering if it's fairly easy to install ubuntu, windows 7, and steam os, with linux being the default boot, on 1 pc?
[07:47] <TheTopBloke> Yes, anybody GOT A LINK?!?
[07:48] <cryptodan> modelengine: just install ubuntu and windows 7 no need for steamOS you can run Steam in Big Picture MOde
[07:49] <Gnudnik> So no new updates seem to be coming down the pipe to me for over a week with my normal apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade.  Is it just me?  Are the Ubuntu repository maintainers taking a Xmas break?  Is my primary repository too obscure to get updated? (http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/)
[07:50] <TheTopBloke> really? I just got 63 today!
[07:50] <modelengine> cryptodan: will running steam in big pic mode do the same as steam os? steam os insalled will give me barebones drain on sys resources so that I am able to have lots of juice to play high demand games
[07:50] <TheTopBloke> what version are u runnin?
[07:50] <Gnudnik> Mostly (almost exclusively) trusty, but I have a Utopic install as well, though I don't use it too often.
[07:50] <cryptodan> modelengine: what video card and cpu do you have?
[07:51] <TheTopBloke> Im trusty, no Utpoic
[07:51] <TheTopBloke> but it all depends on setup too, so
[07:51] <Gnudnik> I tend to update every day or two, and generally get a few packages, at least.  Nothing in over a week.
[07:52] <Gnudnik> The repos seem to be working for installing programs, though.
[07:52] <TheTopBloke> I dunno, I was surprised to log in today to find all the updates. I logged in yesterday, and day before and so on
[07:53] <bubbasaures> Gnudnik, what release is this?
[07:53] <Gnudnik> 14.04.1, trusty, mostly amd64
[07:54] <modelengine> cryptodan: vid card: nvidia gt 430 (1 gb onboard ram), can't remember what cpu. how do i find that out?
[07:54] <daftykins> something that spec, steamOS isn't going to give you any benefits
[07:54] <cryptodan> modelengine: your video card should be upgraded to at least a gtx version of the 480 or 580
[07:54] <bubbasaures> no big downloads of updates here either, just the way it goes on releases out for awhile even a LTS.
[07:55] <modelengine> cryptodan: 8 gig ram and quad core processor
[07:55] <Gnudnik> Alright, I won't worry about it for another week or two.
[07:55] <Gnudnik> thanks
[07:55] <cryptodan> modelengine: Id recommend more RAM for heavy gaming
[07:55] <modelengine> cryptodan: processor is intel sandy bridge i7
[07:55] <cryptodan> the CPU is fine, your video card and RAM is lacking for gaming
[07:56] <modelengine> cryptodan: oh yeah, not super heavy gaming but just enough so my wife can play hidden object games and so i can play defense grid 2 on steam
[07:57] <modelengine> cryptodan: yeah ik, what would you recommend for what i want to use it for? i would prefer nvidia cuz it has more support on linux than amd
[07:59] <jdzielny> hi there.  does anyone have some experience with making RAID 1 bootable?
[08:00] <GeekMan1222> hello
[08:01] <bakso> sup?
[08:01] <cryptodan> modelengine: at least a gtx 480
[08:01] <modelengine> cryptodan: for hog games and dg2, would you still recommend more ram
[08:02] <GeekMan1222> anyone know how to setup smartmontools smartd.conf for email upon failure of health check (or something around those lines) running ubuntu 12.04 server lts with postfix as the mtu
[08:02] <jdzielny> specifically,  I'm looking for some help converting a box with a single hdd over to bootable RAID 1.  It's currently hdd > LUKS > LVM
[08:02] <impeldown> filesystem.squashfs is really heavy.. 1st time using UNetbootin (for flash disk recovery)
[08:02] <GeekMan1222> the config file is kinda confusing not gonna lie
[08:02] <cryptodan> modelengine: yes
[08:03] <modelengine> cryptodan: so around 16gig ddr3?
[08:03] <GeekMan1222> im gonna have 4 other disks coming in as well that run on a raid controller that needs -d megaraid,N option or i assume ill need it in the config for checking all 4 server drives as well Thanks
[08:03] <cryptodan> modelengine: that should be plenty
[08:03] <modelengine> cryptodan: cool, thanks for the help
[08:09] <aeo1ack> Hello. Is it possible to have framebuffer console on nvidia ion? (asus 1201n)
[08:17] <thongbkvn> Hello :)
[08:17] <thongbkvn> anyone here?
[08:18] <dts|pokeball> no
[08:18] <thongbkvn> How can I use ibus in Emacs :)
[08:18] <GeekMan1222> finally did it
[08:18] <GeekMan1222> ignore my post XD
[08:19] <ocx> hello i am running ubuntu14.04  on arm and wantto install  apt-get install libfaac-dev : package not found any idea?
[08:20] <daftykins> probably hasn't been built for ARM
[08:20] <ocx> daftykins: how can i build it
[08:20] <daftykins> pass
[08:29] <llutz> ocx did you check multiverse repos?
[08:29] <ocx> they are not there
[08:31] <p0ss> ocx http://pkgs.org/download/libfaac-dev
[08:31] <ocx> p0ss: these are not for ARM
[08:33] <impeldown> lol unetbootin says bootmgr is missing. gonna try universal usb installer
[08:41] <impeldown> LoL, that was quick. it works now,, thanks daftykins
[08:41]  * Astara hi all 
[08:41]  * Astara good day
[08:41] <impeldown> Astara all is not around
[08:42]  * Astara how are ya
[08:42] <Seveas> Astara: stop abusing the /me thing...
[08:42] <Astara> really
[08:42] <Seveas> Do you have any Ubuntu support issues? :)
[08:42] <Kartagis> yes
[08:43] <Kartagis> yes, really
[08:43] <impeldown> whos really?
[08:44] <Seveas> impeldown: going all philosophical on us there :)
[08:44] <stewi> it he said "yes really" that would imply someone names really, but since he used a comma, it makes it an exclamation of truthfullness and legitimacy
[08:44] <stewi> if*
[08:44] <stewi> named*
[08:45] <EriC^^> you're all wrong, the r would have to be capital
[08:45] <EriC^^> go back and take the pedantic 101 course
[08:45] <stewi> this is an irc chat, I don't expect perfect capitalisation
[08:45] <p0ss>  i propose we fork, those who use a comma to implies truthfulness can have their own branch
[08:45] <stewi> HAHA
[08:45] <impeldown> wouldn't it be called name, nick or handle?
[08:46] <bazhang> !ot
[08:46] <Astara> so any ubuntu user wanna setup hacker toy discussion with me in #Astara.Hacker
[08:46] <Seveas> g'morning bazhang
[08:46] <Astara> nah i am not debian user
[08:47] <Astara> hey bazhang
[08:47] <Astara> join me
[08:47] <impeldown> omg hax0r
[08:47] <bazhang> hi Seveas
[08:47] <Seveas> we're trying to pump some life into a silent channel :)
[08:47] <theadmin> Astara: Please refrain from discussing illegal matters on Freenode.
[08:47] <theadmin> Also, this is still offtopic.
[08:48] <Seveas> got any ontopic things theadmin?
[08:48] <Astara> is boring
[08:48] <Astara> to use backdoored kernel
[08:48] <Astara> wanna proof
[08:48] <Astara> ?
[08:48] <Seveas> Astara: you're in the wrong place mate. Here we do Ubuntu support.
[08:49] <Seveas> oh.
[08:49] <impeldown> oh you 0hday?
[08:49] <impeldown> ohnoes ban him already
[08:50] <stewi> How do you guys modify your routing tables? (nogui)
[08:51] <Seveas> stewi: the 'route' command. Thoush it's more modern to use the 'ip' command, which replaces a whole bunch of old-school network config commands.
[08:52] <stewi> coolies
[09:14] <rayamimai> exit
[09:21] <wafflejock> general question if I want to add a .desktop file should I just add it in /usr/share/applications or can I add it to my user folder somewhere so I don't have to sudo
[09:24] <An0nWarlord> Meow Hello
[09:25] <omosoj> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu 14.04. how do i remove all the spyware?
[09:27] <bazhang> omosoj, there is none, so nothing to do
[09:30] <omosoj> bazhang, when i'm at the search screen there are unwanted results from all over the internet. how do i remove that?
[09:30] <EriC^^> omosoj: go to settings > privacy > search
[09:31] <bazhang> !adlens
[09:31] <bazhang> is that still current ^
[09:32] <DJones> bazhang: Yep
[09:32] <bazhang> thanks DJones
[09:32] <Guest22276> hi folks
[09:32] <Guest22276> anyone here notice fan spins more on ubuntu?
[09:32] <Guest22276> my fan never shuts up
[09:32] <omosoj> EriC^^, thanks. is there any other sneaky stuff i should be worried about?
[09:32] <Guest22276> I tried thermald install ...nothing
[09:33] <omosoj> hm, it seems that there is still stuff here. wtf
[09:33] <EriC^^> omosoj: no, you could read the legal notice in settings > details if you'd like
[09:33] <Siilwyn> Guest22276, I never got that problem. Not really helpful I know...
[09:33] <wafflejock> Guest22276, yeah don't have the issue either but after installing thermald I believe it requires configuration
[09:33] <omosoj> EriC^^, why would i do that?
[09:34] <EriC^^> Guest22276: maybe the gpu is causing this? which driver are you using?
[09:34] <omosoj> EriC^^, eh, nm. na i don't like reading that stuff
[09:34] <Guest22276> well..I am not sure
[09:34] <Guest22276> but I have amd
[09:34] <EriC^^> omosoj: it's pretty short
[09:35] <EriC^^> Guest22276: when i use the fglrx-updates the ps runs a lot hotter
[09:35] <wafflejock> found the location I was looking for ~/.local/share/applications works for user specific desktop entries
[09:35] <EriC^^> Guest22276: go to the dash and type drivers and see which one you're using
[09:35] <EriC^^> *pc
[09:43] <omosoj> bazhang, these links are clearly partisan towards ubuntu. i'm just looking for an impartial explanation of how to disable all these creepy things (ie, any unnecessary or involuntary communication with other parties)
[09:52] <wafflejock> omosoj, you can use another desktop environment if you don't want all the bells and whistles in Unity or things reaching out to give you search results, none of the alternative desktop environments have this built in
[09:53] <omosoj> i understand that but i have ubuntu now and just want to disable all that stuff. i'm pretty sure i can just type a string into the terminal to remove all of it. just looking for that
[09:53] <wafflejock> omosoj, check out gnome-desktop, or kde-desktop or xfce-desktop if you aren't interested in using Unity
[09:54] <wafflejock> omosoj, aside from what you've already been told there should really be nothing more to do, did you logout/login or reboot after making the change? you shouldn't be seeing internet results in the dash anymore
[09:54] <p0ss> omosoj, you used to be able to remove the shopping scope, but thats not the case any more.  here is a longer guide that isn't "ubuntu biased" http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/how-to-disable-amazon-shopping.html
[09:55] <VimFleed> quick help, how can I setup system wide proxy sittings from terminal?
[09:55] <Fredrik26> im best
[09:56] <p0ss> omosoj, you're probably better off changing from unity.  I use ubuntu-gnome, without all the trouble unity brings.
[09:57] <wafflejock> also a gnome fan myself, used kde too though they each have their positives and negatives, overall really like gnome 3 though
[09:59] <lapion> anyone else having problems shutting down whilst in recovery mode ?
[09:59] <wafflejock> VimFleed, appears it's just an environment variable you can set http://askubuntu.com/questions/556601/how-to-set-proxy-server-to-work-from-the-command-line
[10:00] <wafflejock> VimFleed, export http_proxy="http://user:password@proxy_server:port"
[10:01] <lapion> systemd plainly refuses to halt shutdown reboot or any other from of shutting down except for forcing with sysrq-key combinations.
[10:02] <omosoj> p0ss, thank you! i just removed all that awful stuff. i hate seeing dollar signs jumping up at me when concentrating and trying to find a program
[10:03] <omosoj> p0ss, is that easy to switch to?
[10:04] <VimFleed> wafflejock, thanks :)
[10:07] <p0ss> omosoj, its not that hard to add gnome to ubuntu, but its a bit fiddly, so its usually easier to just install ubuntu-gnome instead of ubuntu.  I recomend you burn a live cd and try it out before commiting to it http://ubuntugnome.org/
[10:11] <omosoj> p0ss, i see. thank you for your help
[10:12] <Lockzi> Hello, with an Lenovo Q-190 running Ubuntu 14.04 x64 I have sound problems through HDMI…
[10:13] <EriC^^> Lockzi: sound problems?
[10:13] <Siilwyn> Lockzi, sound problems?
[10:13] <Siilwyn> Haha, EriC^^
[10:14] <Lockzi> From a clean boot of the system I have sound from the System>Sounds>Test Sound clicking left, right center etc. but if I start any application (XBMC or Firefox and starts a Flash video) no sounds anymore at all - neither from XBMC, Flash or System test sounds
[10:14] <EriC^^> Siilwyn: :D
[10:14] <Lockzi> Good! People seem to be eager to help! :D
[10:15] <Lockzi> I’ve reinstalled about 4-5 times now so that is simply not the solution unfortunately...
[10:15] <EriC^^> Lockzi: did you try pavucontrol?
[10:16] <Lockzi> EriC^^: I have installed pavucontrol
[10:16] <p0ss> What is your sound set up? Onboard or dedicated? how many exit devices? your run through a preamp?
[10:16] <Lockzi> I can confirm that I see that audio is beeing passed to PA as I see the “noise meter” moving - yet there is no output
[10:17] <Lockzi> Sound setup. Lenovo Q-190 HDMI out to an AV Reciever
[10:18] <Lockzi> aplay -l give me http://pastebin.com/B6PpDZ1s
[10:18] <Lockzi> p0ss: did that answer your question?
[10:19] <p0ss> indeed Lockzi, have you tried isolating the output?  For instance plugging in a set of headphones and seeing if the problem remains.
[10:20] <Lockzi> p0ss: at the System>Sounds I only have digital outputs (S/PDIF and HDMI), can try headset and see if something else shows up when plugged in. One moment please
[10:24] <Lockzi> p0ss: I can now confirm
[10:25] <Lockzi> Plugging in a headset gives me another output option (Headphones)
[10:25] <Lockzi> Yet, when having firefox with youtube started I get no sound from either firefox, nor speaker testing
[10:25] <Lockzi> When closing firefox after a while I get sounds from speaker testing again
[10:26] <Lockzi> It seems like applications are “locking” pulseaudio because when I use “pasuspender — speaker-test -t wav” I do get test sounds immideately
[10:26] <p0ss> we can check that.  try:  sudo lsof | grep snd
[10:28] <ink3> hello
[10:28] <m1dnight_> guys, when I try tar -tf 01.01.2015T00.15.tar.gz root/backup to extract a file in the tar (located at /root/backup), how come it takes so long?
[10:29] <m1dnight_> Does it read in the *entire* tar file, before taking out a file?
[10:30] <Lockzi> p0ss: http://pastebin.com/pJa63r3D when test output is working
[10:30] <ink3> It's a addon for firefox - right click = open link (only text, not picture)?
[10:30] <Lockzi> Weirdly enough on occasion, I sometimes get the sound working from applications
[10:30] <Lockzi> I’ll reboot to try to get it into a state where it is not working again
[10:33] <Lockzi> p0ss: http://pastebin.com/uiMA63E8 here’s output of when it’s not working again (running flash video and speaker-test) giving me no sound at all
[10:33] <Lockzi> No reboot was necissary, just switched the output device back and forth gave the same result
[10:36] <p0ss> I don't see an obvious locked program there.  you say a known good sound works, does this command work?:    aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[10:36] <Lockzi> The outputs looks the same except for that when there is no sound output (when running youtube) we see a couple of plugin-co running
[10:37] <p0ss> Lockzi, yeah a locked app often looks like  series of failed commands in that log.
[10:38] <Lockzi> p0ss: Yes that aplay command works when I am not running any application (i.e. only desktop) but if I start youtube I get no sound
[10:39] <Lockzi> That command is essentially the same as the System>Sound>Test sound I am talking about :)
[10:39] <p0ss> so the aplay command stops functioning when a youtube clip is playing?
[10:40] <Lockzi> Yes
[10:40] <Lockzi> Exactly
[10:40] <p0ss> Lockzi, next question is, does restarting pulse audio also reset the problem as a restart would?
[10:40] <Lockzi> Not only youtube/flash/firefox - same for XBMC
[10:41] <Lockzi> It seems like I am stuck on: Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[10:41] <Lockzi> It’s not “finishing”
[10:42] <p0ss> and if you shutdown pulseaudio?  "pulseaudio -k" or "killall pulseaudio && pulseaudio --check" depending on how thorough you want to be
[10:42] <Lockzi> administrator@administrator-IdeaCentre-Q190:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[10:42] <Lockzi> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Access denied
[10:42] <Lockzi> aplay: main:722: audio open error: Connection refused
[10:43] <Lockzi> The default device listed when running aplay -L is that it outputs to PulseAudio server… so when it’s killed I get no sound. I’ll start it again?
[10:45] <Lockzi> p0ss: Weird! sudo service pulseaudio says it’s already started. Yet aplay now gives me that Connection refused error!
[10:46] <Lockzi> Ah, service pulseaudio stop than start now plays the sound without connection error :)
[10:50] <Lockzi> What are you thinking p0ss? Such a weird problem… I am almost certain it has to do with PulseAudio
[10:51] <p0ss> Lockzi, what do you get from pulseaudio --check
[10:52] <Lockzi> Nothing at all :(
[10:53] <Lockzi> $sudo pulseaudio —check gives me: E: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Home directory not accessible: Permission denied - but that is OK
[10:53] <p0ss> Lockzi, it is sounding to me like a permissions error.  you're getting different responses depending on which user runs the command
[10:54] <Lockzi> I am guessing it is because there is no home folder for root
[10:56] <Lockzi> Bare in mind also - this problem occurs on a fresh ubuntu install with just Firefox and Flash plugin installed.
[10:56] <p0ss> Lockzi, is your user a member of the audio group?
[10:57] <Lockzi> I am not 100% but I’ve now noticed twice that the default output has been changed to the S/PDIF output from the HDMI
[10:57] <Lockzi> administrator@administrator-IdeaCentre-Q190:~$ groups administrator
[10:57] <Lockzi> administrator : administrator adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[10:57] <Lockzi> So no
[10:58] <Lockzi> the user pulse is though
[10:58] <Lockzi> Which PA runs under
[10:59] <p0ss> if you look at  /etc/pulse/default.pa  you should be able to set your default output under:  add set-card-profile 0
[11:01] <lenovo> difference between  bash and shell
[11:01] <lenovo> shell is command prompt
[11:01] <fufese> good morning everyone
[11:01] <lenovo> what is bash
[11:02] <lenovo> good morning
[11:02] <fufese> I have a problem with my internal microphone
[11:02] <fufese> I was wondering if someone could help
[11:04] <lenovo> same problem ... skype micromphone(internal) not working on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:05] <Lockzi> p0ss: set-default-sink?
[11:05] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning folks
[11:06] <fufese> good morning
[11:06] <fufese> does anyone else know a fix for an internal microphone not working?
[11:07] <p0ss> That'll do it Lockzi, you can see your sinks with: pacmd list-sinks
[11:07] <p0ss> Lockzi i am being called away sorry mate, good luck
[11:14] <amn3zia> who can help em?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> amn3zia, no help for em
[11:27] <ips|malc_> how does "erase disk and install ubuntu" create the partition sizes?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ips|malc_, automatically
[11:38] <aeo1ack> Hello. Is it possible to use framebuffer console on NVidia Ion? (Asus 1201n)
[11:47] <okotoio> älö
[11:48] <yourbeau> is Ubuntu the most secure linux distro ?
[11:48] <okotoio> ufi
[11:48] <okotoio> ohoh
[11:49] <k1l_> yourbeau: security depends on the users behaviour. if you install malicious 3rd party programs ubuntu cant do anything against that
[11:50] <okotoio> ufenpink hat die verbindung gemopt
[11:50] <okotoio> kikhhmhjgzg
[11:50] <okotoio> ghhgjgzhg
[11:50] <okotoio> hjhttztzr
[11:50] <yourbeau> k1l_, what about non-free firmwares ?
[11:51] <yourbeau> can are sure backdoored and exploited
[11:51] <moza> Hello, i am having problems with my graphical interface. I recently installed a GTX750 NVidia graphic card with the drivers from the website, and it worked, until a reboot when it all stopped working :/
[11:51] <k1l_> yourbeau: if its not open source you cant be sure since you dont know whats in there.
[11:52] <k1l_> yourbeau: but in that case i would start to use hardware that is open source first. and not buy closed hardware and blame the OS to not do something there.
[11:53] <justelex> Hi,
[11:53] <yourbeau> k1l_, but don't ubuntu load all the non-free wifi firmwares even if I am using free wifi hardware ?
[11:54] <k1l_> yourbeau: no
[11:54] <cfhowlett> yourbeau, you can specify the "no non-free" at install and .. no non-free will install
[11:55] <Siilwyn> moza, that's strange Nvidia's closed drivers are supposed to work very good. What version do you use of Ubuntu?
[11:55] <BluesKaj_> moza, the drivers available in ubuntu should work for your card ...the proprietary nvidia driver recommend on the nvidia site id probly unsuitable.
[11:55] <moza> I use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:55] <justelex> After installing 14.04 or 14.10 the system hangs on "switching clocksource tsc". A previous Instalation on the same system worked well. Any Ideas how to solve this?
[11:55] <k1l_> moza: when you run the website drivers you need to reinstall after every kernel upgrade.
[11:55] <moza> installed with 10.04 LTS alternate install CD and upgraded since then
[11:55] <k1l_> moza: you dont need that if you use the ubuntu nvidia drivers
[11:56] <moza> oh
[11:56] <moza> k1l_, so it might be that
[11:56] <moza> are the "nouveau" packages what you call the ubuntu nvidia drivers?
[11:56] <k1l_> moza: no
[11:56] <moza> ok.
[11:56] <k1l_> !find nvidia
[11:57] <moza> Thank you k1l_
[11:57] <moza> :)
[11:57] <k1l_> nouveau is the open source driver. ubuntu offers some versions of the nvidia drier already made comfortable with ubuntu.
[11:57] <Siilwyn> moza, k1l_ though the closed drivers do run faster right?
[11:57] <k1l_> moza: but completly remove the website driver first to not get caughted with mixed driver
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> moza, so use the recovery kernwl then update and upgrade. most likely the proprietary driver will be removed, if not find the driver number and remove it
[11:58] <Siilwyn> Your games will get an higher FPS with the proprietary drivers I think.
[11:58] <k1l_> Siilwyn: most times the closed driver offers better support for new cards. for old cards the open driver is equal or even better, since nvidia drops old cards
[11:59] <Siilwyn> k1l_, that's good to know. Thanks for your useful information. =)
[11:59] <moza> I will try to find and uninstall the proprietary driver i installed by hand
[11:59] <moza> and then install the ubuntu ones
[12:00] <moza> I prefer lower fps to having to fix it at every kernel upgrade :)
[12:00] <moza> and if needed i can always try it again :)
[12:00] <moza> Thank you a lot
[12:02] <k1l_> the website driver doesnt guarantee better fps. ubuntu offers closed nvidia drivers, too. only reason to use the website driver is because the card is that new or a bug is just fixed in the newer version on the website.
[12:04] <moza> ok k1l_
[12:04] <moza> i guess i didn't know better when installing first
[12:05] <moza> Thanks a lot for the clarification :)
[12:05] <k1l_> yeah, people get excited to the higher verison number and are used to install from website from their windows experience. but that is another setup on ubuntu.
[12:07] <moza> I wasn't used to that anymore, but i guess i felt lost with my first graphic card :)
[12:07] <moza> Now i wonder how to find that name without access to the graphical software manager :P
[12:08] <BluesKaj_> moza, do remember the nvidia driver number?
[12:08] <BluesKaj_> you
[12:09] <Curiosity4tech> Hello everybody and Happy New Year!
[12:10] <bhcewe> sup
[12:10] <aggthegreat> .16041973@
[12:10] <BluesKaj_> Curiosity4tech, same to you
[12:11] <moza> BluesKaj_, I do have the file i used that says NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.65.run
[12:12] <moza> so probably 340.65
[12:13] <BluesKaj_> moza, run sudo apt-get remove nvidia-340
[12:13] <intheguts> tight it worked without a hitch
[12:13] <moza> BluesKaj_, i did and it tells me it can't find it
[12:14] <bhcewe> apt-cache search nvidia
[12:14] <BluesKaj_> moza, ok , sudo dpkg -r nvidia-340
[12:15] <moza> It's not installed so it can't be removed...
[12:15] <moza> I guess i'll just try installing the nvidia-331 that i see in the apt-cache search?
[12:15] <BluesKaj_> moza, ok dkms status should rtell you the driver in use
[12:16] <moza> I already launched the install of 331 and it seems it needed to uninstall 304.
[12:17] <Chip_> Hello, is there anyone available to help me with compiling some software?
[12:17] <moza> I'll do the dkms after it finishes, thanks for that
[12:22] <moza> dkms status now tells me it has bbswitch and nvidia-331 installed
[12:23] <moza> as well as nvidia-331-uvm
[12:23] <moza> I'll try a reboot then.
[12:26] <moza> It seems to work now :)
[12:26] <moza> Thanks a lot!
[12:27] <lenovo> hy
[12:27] <lenovo> microphone not working in ubuntu
[12:28] <lenovo> ubuntu 14.04
[12:35] <Paddy_NI> Is there any solution to the Plymouth boot splash screen not showing until the last possible minute?
[12:35] <Paddy_NI> This bug is around quite a long time
[12:37] <k1l_> did you file a bug or contribute to the bug on launchpad.net ?
[12:37] <moza> k1l_, : are you asking me?
[12:38] <k1l_> moza: no. i meat Paddy_NI
[12:38] <moza> ok
[12:38] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I cannot find the specific bug, it's a little difficult to define
[12:38] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, There are an overwhelming list of bugs for plymouth
[12:38] <Paddy_NI> *is
[12:38] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: so how can we know its "the bug"? or even solve it
[12:39] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, Well ever since plymouth has been used it is hit and miss as to whether or not it will display or not as intended
[12:40] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: cant acknowledge that
[12:40] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, How many different systems have you installed linux (w/plymouth) on?
[12:41] <Paddy_NI> I would say around 20% of the systems I have installed it on have this problem
[12:41] <Paddy_NI> actually don't
[12:41] <Paddy_NI> I just expect it now
[12:41] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: file bug reports or contribute to the bugs that are already reported.
[12:41] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I need to be able to clearly define it
[12:42] <k1l_> just talking/ranting about it will help nothing.
[12:42] <Paddy_NI> Do I not?
[12:42] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I'm not ranting and this is the first time I have mentioned it here so reel your neck in
[12:43] <Paddy_NI> Okay I'll try and be a little more proactive
[12:43] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, Thank you for your time :-)
[12:44] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: just imagine alle devs dont experience that bug because the have the 80% of working out of the box machines. how could they ever fix something that they dont see? so file bugs or contribute to the existing bugs to get the problems solved. maybe the need logs or exact setups or patched versions to be tested.
[12:46] <k1l_> we all benefit form users who report bugs in a constructive manner :)
[12:46] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I am totally onside
[12:46] <Paddy_NI> I guess I was being lazy and hoping for instant gratification or something
[12:52] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, A few potential bugs with no real leads
[12:52] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I guess ticking the "this effects me too" button there is sweet nothing I can do :-(
[12:53] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: you can provide logs or more exact explainations.
[12:53] <Paddy_NI> I would actually like to have the old linux verbose text boot back
[12:53] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, I can provide no further explanation, which logs?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> Paddy_NI, configurable from the grub command line ...
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> Paddy_NI: edit your grub quiet splash to ""
[12:53] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: you can. just erase quiet and splash/plymouth form the kernel boot line in grub
[12:53] <Paddy_NI> Do I need to do that each time?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> Paddy_NI, sudo edit grub and make it a permanent change
[12:54] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: if you set the grub default to it it will be permanent for every grub entry
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> Paddy_NI: no, one time and sudo update-grub after
[12:54] <Paddy_NI> cool
[12:54] <yourbeau>  Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[12:54] <k1l_> Paddy_NI: /etc/default/grub
[12:55] <yourbeau> who is familiar with this bug ?
[12:55] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, :-)
[12:55] <bhcewe> anyone familiar with google?
[12:56] <streulma> has anyone tried Ubuntu on a Macbook Air ?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | bhcewe thank you
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20854/how-to-enable-user-sharing-per-instructions
[12:56] <cfhowlett> !mac | streulma, I've tested 14.04 and it does run on the most recent air
[12:57] <Paddy_NI> k1l_, reboot time :-)
[12:59] <TimeVirus> is there anyone that knows how casper-rw works?
[12:59] <TimeVirus> anyone here...
[12:59] <streulma> cfhowlett I've tested also, but don't know if I must enable 99macbookair6 and tlp
[13:00] <cfhowlett> streulma, ask the mac forums ... I don't have enough experience to advise
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> !info casper | TimeVirus is this the package you mean?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !details | TimeVirus
[13:02] <TimeVirus> whoever is activating that bot yes
[13:02] <TimeVirus> lol
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> streulma: omgubuntu shows an article about installing ubuntu MATE on mac also
[13:02] <TimeVirus> but USB flash memory is not read only
[13:02] <cfhowlett> TimeVirus, what exactly are you trying to achieve
[13:04] <TimeVirus> I want to install a linux on flash drive as if it were hdd...so that when I make changes like install something it is saved and will be available after reboot
[13:05] <k1l_> TimeVirus: why not using the persistence setting from the live system?
[13:05] <TimeVirus> and so that if I uninstall said things that drive space is useable again
[13:05] <TimeVirus> persistence can only go as large as 5 GB if I'm not mistaken
[13:06] <TimeVirus> but I have 32 GB flash drive I would like to use
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> TimeVirus: you can try multisystem, its very neat to use, just drag n drop your linux iso
[13:07] <Lockzi> What service should I use to upload a log file to something like pastebin?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Lockzi, pastebinit
[13:07] <TimeVirus> seems to me everything runs SO much faster on USB flash than from my internal hdd
[13:08] <TimeVirus> 'multisystem' huh
[13:08] <TimeVirus> hmmm
[13:08] <TimeVirus> my internal hdd is IDE and USB 2 flash is faster
[13:08] <TimeVirus> maybe that squash has something to do with it
[13:09] <TimeVirus> i'
[13:09] <Lockzi> cfhowlett: Thanks! :)
[13:09] <TimeVirus> I'm no expert
[13:09] <cfhowlett> Lockzi, happy2help!
[13:09] <feurd> I've changed the hostname of my computer, but realised that my ssh key
[13:09] <feurd> 	ends with feurd@old_hostname. Should I change it or does it make no
[13:09] <feurd> 	difference?
[13:09] <TimeVirus> squashfs that is
[13:09] <k1l_> TimeVirus: what cpu is that?
[13:09] <TimeVirus> U2500
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> TimeVirus: wich distro are you trying to get to usb?
[13:10] <TimeVirus> doesnt really matter I guess which distro I guess though I think debian base is for me at this time
[13:10] <TimeVirus> I'm running Knoppix right now
[13:11] <TimeVirus> problem with Knoppix is none of the logout options work
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> TimeVirus: this channel is for ubuntu support only mate
[13:11] <TimeVirus> I have to use cli to 'poweroff'
[13:11] <k1l_> TimeVirus: ok, so please ask knoppix or debian support for their best settings in that case
[13:11] <TimeVirus> cop-out
[13:11] <TimeVirus> this is ubuntu
[13:11] <TimeVirus> ubuntu is debian based
[13:11] <TimeVirus> it may well be ubuntu is for me
[13:11] <cfhowlett> TimeVirus, we know.
[13:11] <k1l_> TimeVirus: stop that please. ask the support from that OS you actually want to use.
[13:12] <TimeVirus> probably is
[13:12] <TimeVirus> lol@ kill
[13:12] <cfhowlett> TimeVirus, it's a matter of expertise and respect.  ask the experts about their product.
[13:12] <TimeVirus> agreed cfhowlett
[13:13] <TimeVirus> again i said debian based is probably for me and that is what ubuntu is
[13:13] <TimeVirus> I'm thinking Xubuntu
[13:14] <TimeVirus> but Xubuntu isnt for me if I cant use it from flash
[13:14] <cfhowlett> TimeVirus, xubuntu is quite nice.  please come here for support after you install ... or see #xubuntu
[13:14] <dreamcat4> speaking of debian, is there any way ubuntu apt can identify and warn / refuse to add debian repos to apt-list ?
[13:14] <xS1mple> I'm having trouble with getting a shell script to run from a cron job, does this syntax look okay: * 2 * * 5 /var/backups/backup.sh > /home/<user>/logs/backup.log ?? I also have the backup.sh marked as executable
[13:14] <TimeVirus> I came here to find out if ubuntu can run flash as well as it does hd
[13:14] <dreamcat4> i say that because it can really mess up your ubuntu installation (happened to me recently with SteamOS repos)
[13:14] <cfhowlett> TimeVirus, generally flash is slower than HD.
[13:15] <TimeVirus> ok but not from what I"ve seen
[13:15] <cfhowlett> dreamcat4, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list     just comment out the repos you don't want
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> !repo | dreamcat4
[13:15] <TimeVirus> seems much faster
[13:15] <dreamcat4> cfhowlett, ubottu that's not a solution to what i'm asking for
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !persistence | TimeVirus there you go
[13:16] <xS1mple> if this is the wrong channel for cron support, could someone please point me in the right direction?
[13:16] <dreamcat4> let be put it another way: is there any wat apt-repo maintainers can label their repos as debian-only or ubuntu-only (or both_
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> !cron | xS1mple
[13:16] <dreamcat4> wat/way
[13:16] <TimeVirus> cfhowlett, would my perception be because a live distro uses squashfs?
[13:16] <TimeVirus> thanks for the link
[13:16] <TimeVirus> cfhowlett, ^
[13:16] <xS1mple> I understand how to create them, I listed my problem before though, I feel like I've tried all I can
[13:17] <bhcewe> xS1mple: lack of username syntax
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> dreamcat4: if you run ubuntu, why would you add debian repos
[13:17] <xS1mple> bhcewe:  so I need to specify which user will run it even though I set it up with crontab -e under root
[13:18] <bhcewe> it means, what user the script will run as
[13:19] <TimeVirus> ok I've used Ubuntu of a few types and when I install iceweasel it doenst run nearly as nicely as it does in Kali or Knoppix.  Why is that?
[13:19] <dreamcat4> lotuspsychje: again, you don't seem to understand the big problem. it is in identifying 3rd party repos as being either debian or ubuntu, and having the apt-tool warn the user about it
[13:19] <dreamcat4> and some repos will work on both platforms, so ditto
[13:19] <TimeVirus> is it because iceweasel has been integrated better somehow?
[13:20] <TimeVirus> well. thanks for the help provided anyway--youz have a good day
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> dreamcat4: the user is responsible for adding other ppa's right, why would the system warn you?
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> !ppa
[13:22] <xS1mple> bhcewe: the syntax on the how to page does not specify a user when using the crontab -e command, instead it says to do that through /etc/crontab, correct?
[13:22] <bhcewe> yup
[13:22] <dreamcat4> lotuspsychje: ahem. to protect the user from copy-pasting some instrucitons from the internet and bricking their own system, beyond repair, when it could have been very easily avoided ?
[13:22] <Lockzi> p0ss: I am still having audio problems… http://paste.ubuntu.com/9670837/ That’s the run log from an attempt. At line #1132 I open up Systems>Sounds at #1212 I send Test sound “Front Center”.
[13:23] <xS1mple> so why does my cronjob not run if I create it using crontab -e while logged in to root?
[13:23] <k1l_> !find iceweasel
[13:23] <xS1mple> I'd prefer to leave /etc/crontab alone
[13:24] <cfhowlett> dreamcat4, a user who is sophisticated enough to edit the default source list with non-standard sources assumes responsibility.  We assume no adult supervision is required.
[13:24] <Lockzi> p0ss: At line #1329 I start Firefox and play a video stream
[13:24] <dreamcat4> cfhowlett: then that is a very poor assuption, on your part
[13:25] <Lockzi> Then at line #1431 I try again to play Front Center
[13:25] <cfhowlett> dreamcat4, agree to disagree
[13:25] <Lockzi> So something happens between 1212 and 1431 that causes loss of sound…
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> dreamcat4: there are ways to create secure ppa's and use keys to add them..
[13:25] <Lockzi> Anyone else might be able to have a look as well please?
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Lockzi
[13:27] <Lockzi> lotuspsychje: The problem is that I have sound - unless I start a flash video in Firefox or something in XBMC then I loose everything…
[13:27] <xS1mple> this alternative syntax (run every minute) also doesn't work: 1 * * * * /var/backups/backup.sh > /home/<user>/logs/backup.log, any ideas?
[13:27] <bhcewe> it should be */1
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> Lockzi: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? drivers installed?
[13:28] <xS1mple> bhcewe: will try that, sec
[13:29] <Lockzi> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-restricted-extras is not installed. I have not installed any specific drivers
[13:30] <Lockzi> Should I install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[13:31] <xS1mple> okay so /var/log/syslog shows that the cron is running, but the script generates no files (i've tested it multiple times)
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> Lockzi: yes try plz
[13:31] <bhcewe> xs1mple: check permission
[13:31] <bhcewe> maybe no write permission
[13:32] <xS1mple> if the cron was created under the root account, what would stop it?
[13:32] <xS1mple> it has rwx under root
[13:33] <bhcewe> try to write in /tmp
[13:34] <xS1mple> bhcewe: okay, also are you sure there is nothing wrong with this syntax (every Friday @ 2am): * 2 * * 5 /var/backups/backup.sh > /home/<user>/logs/backup.log
[13:38] <xS1mple> bhcewe: doesn't write to /tmp
[13:39] <xS1mple> syslog still says it's running though
[13:39] <Lockzi> lotuspsychje: It did not help.. :( Also - it works intermittently, so if it was a codec issue or something it would never work if the needed codec was not installed?
[13:39] <xS1mple> the script runs fine if I call it manually
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> Lockzi: you got sound on vlc?
[13:40] <Lockzi> lotuspsychje: I can download and check
[13:41] <bhcewe> add 2>&1
[13:41] <bhcewe> in the end of line
[13:42] <xS1mple> which does what?
[13:42] <Onion> Hello. I am running arch linux linux and I would like to switch to any of the *buntus. I also have a separate home partition with my files in it. To prevent compatibility issues, would it be ok to simply delete all configuration files and hoidden folders from the home partition leaving only my personal files on it and performa a clean install of another linux distro while using the existing home partition without formatting?
[13:43] <Onion> *hidden
[13:43] <xS1mple> bhcewe: still not writing anything
[13:44] <bhcewe> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/07/crontab-log/
[13:44] <Guest11517> hi all
[13:44] <Guest11517> i am getting this error msg "sudo: account validation failure, is your account locked?"
[13:44] <Guest11517> can someone help on the above issue
[13:44] <xS1mple> bhcewe: "No MTA installed, discarding output"
[13:44] <k1l_> Guest11517: what command with sudo?
[13:45] <k1l_> Onion: imho that should work. but backups are better for the worst case
[13:46] <Onion> I have backups, it's just that I'm not in the mood of copying over gigabytes of data back to my hom partition after installation...
[13:46] <Guest11517> if  iam editing some file , the above error showing
[13:46] <k1l_> Onion: you can choose manual partitioning and can set the old home to be the new home and uncheck the formating
[13:46] <Onion> *home
[13:46] <Onion> @k1l_ Yes, I know. I just don't want to use any of the old configs to prevent compatibility issues.
[13:47] <Guest11517> Hi KLl , can you please help on this issue
[13:47] <Onion> @k1l_ The only folder I'm not going to delete is the that belongs to the Steam client, as I don't want to redownload all of my games
[13:47] <xS1mple> bhcewe: I understand MTA is something to send an email of the output, I have specified that all output goes to a log file, which isn't created….
[13:47] <Onion> *the one
[13:47] <chemist^> Hello everyone. Can anyone please tell me how to make a bootable windoz XP USB installation with ubuntu? I've tried winusb, startup disk creator and unetbootin...with no success :( ... when i try to boot it from USB it says "Boot MBR missing". Any ideas anyone? (Using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS)
[13:48] <k1l_> Onion: i think that should work, yes.
[13:48] <bhcewe> xs1mple have u read the link
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Onion, in theory ... yes that will work.  note: ext4 is the default ubuntu filesystem
[13:48] <Onion> Yea, I know
[13:48] <Onion> I used the same fs in arch
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> chemist^: winusb should do the trick
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Onion, well, then.  Are you a gambling man?
[13:49] <xS1mple> bhcewe: I have, it says all output should be sent to that file I specified, do I need to touch it?
[13:49] <bhcewe> no you dont
[13:49] <chemist^> lotuspsychje it should...but it doesn't ... and i've also read on a few forums that it DOES NOT work with XP...only 7,8,vista
[13:49] <Onion> @cfhowlett Sorry, I didn't get your question.
[13:49] <xS1mple> well it's not being created
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Onion, go for it
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> chemist^: oh right xp, yes doesnt work on winusb
[13:50] <chemist^> lotuspsychje :D lol ... any ideas on how to make it work? another tool perhaps?
[13:50] <Lockzi> lotuspsychje: VLC does not give any sound either...
[13:50] <Onion> I suppose I can also leave out the ./local/share/Steam directory, it should work on Ubuntu
[13:50] <realloc1> hoi..     i'm not sure if this is the right channel for questions like this, but: Got someone here ubuntu 14.04/14.10 working on a M$ surface? (pro 2) I already tried but it did not work very well (WiFi problems etc)
[13:50] <vifino> realloc1: Actually, I run it right now :P
[13:51] <realloc1> oh cool
[13:51] <realloc1> Are you using a type cover?
[13:51] <vifino> Ubuntu 14.10 + btrfs is nice.
[13:51] <vifino> Nope, didn't buy that.
[13:52] <vifino> And yes, you will probably have wifi issues.
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> chemist^: forget xp, its a danger to use :p install ubuntu instead
[13:52] <chemist^> lotuspsychje i remember doing this once a while ago, but can't remember what i did in order to make it work :( my CD-unit is busted dus i can't install from cd
[13:52] <Apachez> anyone in here who experience freeze/hangs when running steam games in full screen mode in ubuntu 14.10 using intel hd graphics (in this case i5-4250U in intel nuc)?  But when runned in windowed mode there are no freezes/hangs?
[13:53] <chemist^> lotuspsychje that does not answer my question... it's not a danger to use offline... i have an old laptop which i need for LAN gaming...ubuntu doesn't do the trick, bad gaming support and compatibility
[13:53] <realloc1> vifino: ok... and you are online with a LAN->USB adapter?
[13:53] <vifino> realloc1: Do you have wifi at all? aka, do you have the wifi drivers installed?
[13:53] <vifino> No, i am online via wifi.
[13:53] <realloc1> how did you install the drivers/where did you find them?
[13:53] <chemist^> lol
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> chemist^: maybe universal usb installer, or multisystem
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: you have same issues on 14.04?
[13:55] <vifino> realloc1: Put that file in '/lib/firmware/mrvl': http://git.marvell.com/?p=mwifiex-firmware.git;a=blob;f=mrvl/usb8797_uapsta.bin
[13:55] <vifino> You should be able to wget it.
[13:56] <vifino> Like that: sudo wget -O /lib/firmware/usb8797_uapsta.bin http://git.marvell.com/?p=mwifiex-firmware.git;a=blob;f=mrvl/usb8797_uapsta.bin
[13:56] <realloc1> currently im on windows again, but i will try it out soon
[13:56] <vifino> realloc1: Copy that line somewhere.
[13:57] <vifino> The wifi driver is buggy, but it gets way better with a newer kernel.
[13:57] <realloc1> i also have no lan->usb adapter, so i need to copy everything from a extern drive
[13:57] <vifino> That's fine.
[13:58] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: dunno, currently using 14.10 on this box and isnt to happy to be forced to reinstall into 14.04
[13:58] <yourbeau> SpeedEvil, the screw head of wifi card's screw on mobo of laptop is worn out ? How to take it out ?
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: check this mate: http://www.howtogeek.com/132549/6-tips-for-improving-game-performance-with-steam-on-linux/
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: i would test same on 14.04, just to make sure
[13:59] <vifino> realloc1: Get kernel 3.17.6, that one works for me.
[14:00] <realloc1> vifino: Thank you a lot! Windows is driving me crazy
[14:00] <vifino> Wifi is MUCH more stable than 3.16.
[14:00] <vifino> No problem, realloc1.
[14:00] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: thanks, found it earlier when googling on the subject and it seems that im not alone however no working solutions provided yet
[14:00] <Apachez> I will however try the big picture mode and see if that makes anything different
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Apachez maybe this can help also
[14:01] <jarnos> If you are using a i386 kernel in amd64 based ubuntu, does "uname -r" give something like *:i386. (Or what are the *:i386 packages exposed by "aptitude search  linux-image"?)
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: try to tweak your overall system speed, preload, bleachbit clean your system, turn off eyecandy in ccsm
[14:01] <Apachez> jarnos: no idea but alternative way is to use  dpkg -l | grep -i kernel-image
[14:02] <vifino> realloc1: Actually, let me make a gist of .deb's you need to download for the new kernel, so you don't have to do the work.
[14:02] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: im using as many standardsettings as possible
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:02] <Apachez> only thing I have tweaked is to remove the win key and alt key actions in unity
[14:02] <Apachez> because they always bails out from full screen when playing =)
[14:02] <Apachez> and the freeze/hang occured even with those enabled
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: what driver + grafix chipset plz?
[14:03] <Apachez> the one in ubuntu 14.10
[14:03] <Apachez> how can I verify?
[14:03] <Apachez> lspci ?
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: sudo lshw -C video
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: check after driver=
[14:03] <Apachez> product: Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
[14:04] <Apachez> configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> ok
[14:04] <chemist^> lotuspsychje i found a curious "already tested" solution ... formatting the usb with gparted to NTFS with bootable flag, mounting the usb, simply copying all the files from the ISO on to the usb....and it should work... i'm really curious if this is true or not :)
[14:04] <A1Recon> Is there a way to use Serviio on one PC (or say a DLNA enabled phone) to send media files(audio, images, videos) to play on my Ubuntu desktop?
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: any other drivers show your additional drivers list?
[14:04] <Apachez> nop
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | chemist^
[14:04] <Apachez> when running additional driver no extra drivers shows up
[14:05] <jarnos> Apachez, Did you mean  dpkg -l | grep -i linux-image? it shows the installed packages, not all available ones. Even "apt-cache search --names-only linux-image" does not show the :i386 ones, that aptitude does in amd64 system.
[14:05] <Apachez> jarnos: sorry, thought you wanted to find out which package was being used
[14:05] <realloc1> vifino: i really appreciate it, thank you very much indeed.
[14:06] <Apachez> its linux-image also and not my incorrectly syntax of kernel-image
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: i would surely try 14.04 fresh with cable on/updates on
[14:06] <Apachez> cable on = ?
[14:06] <jarnos> Apachez, no, I need to know, if it is possible, that "uname -r"  displays something that ends by :i386
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> internet enabled
[14:07] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: dunno if that would help, I think its some "feature" in unity or such which bugs this
[14:08] <Apachez> because with 14.04 you have even older gfx drivers (in case they are involved in this)
[14:08] <Apachez> while intel drivers are updated in 3.19 kernel
[14:08] <Apachez> but I guess we wont see those until 15.04 is out?
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: ive seen many issues on 14.10 screens already
[14:08] <Apachez> bah!
[14:09] <A1Recon>  Is there a way to use Serviio on one PC (or say a DLNA enabled phone) to send media files(audio, images, videos) to play on my Ubuntu desktop?
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: ubuntu desktop 14.04 or a xubuntu 14.04 maybe test in live to check?
[14:10] <Apachez> ahh yes that might a way
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> just install steam on it, and test out
[14:11] <Apachez> I got 16GB of ram so it shold fit :P
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> lol yes
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: you can also try a tail -f /var/log/dmesg during your gameplay
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: or /var/log/syslog to check what kind of errors you getting
[14:12] <vifino> realloc1: https://gist.github.com/vifino/1f9081ec500c791274f1
[14:12] <vifino> Here you go.
[14:14] <mcnesium> on osx lion i am trying to create a bootable ubuntu usb drive following this howto http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx but after step three i am unable to even mount the ubuntu.img.dmg image. any help?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> !mac | mcnesium,
[14:16] <realloc1> vifino: Whoa... really cool! I will report here in this channel later. Maybe you should make this public
[14:17] <Lockzi> lotuspsychje: I have found my problem
[14:17] <vifino> realloc1: Well, sure thing.
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> Lockzi: what was it?
[14:17] <wiky> /etc/X11/xorg.conf keeps deleted every system booting, so I cannot switch to AMD GPU. Any idea?
[14:17] <realloc1> ...it will take a while until ubuntu is reinstalled
[14:17] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: yeah tried looking in dmesg, but no messages in there when the game freezes during fullscreen
[14:17] <vifino> realloc1: My recommendation: btrfs. Some people say it isn't stable, but it is really fast and I use it on my surface.
[14:18] <Lockzi> lotuspsychje: The sink goes into the suspended state and can’t wake up (with anything else than using aplay command)
[14:18] <Lockzi> state: SUSPENDED
[14:18] <Lockzi> 	suspend cause: IDLE
[14:18] <Apachez> however chrome is segfaulting all the time
[14:18] <vifino> Well, on the partitioning thing, just select btrfs instead of ext4.
[14:18] <vifino> If you want to.
[14:18] <Apachez> Jan  4 14:32:22 nuc kernel: [127135.553402] chrome[26566]: segfault at 1f8 ip 00007f18e23db63f sp 00007fff61c19a80 error 4 in i965_dri.so[7f18e2088000+51c000]
[14:18] <Lockzi> Which is why, if I use aplay, and then start VLC or Flash I hear the sounds
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: maybe its compiz freezing on you during heavy grafix
[14:18] <realloc1> hmm i've no experience with btrfs, anything i should be aware of?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Lockzi
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | realloc1
[14:19] <Lockzi> If I close flash and let the sink go into suspended… No luck getting it to wake up again
[14:19] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: yeah so I will try big picture and see if thats any different
[14:19] <vifino> lotuspsychje: :P
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: ok good luck mate
[14:19] <Lockzi> So the question is - should I just unload the “module-suspend-on-idle” or can I trim this somehow?
[14:19] <vifino> I was looking for that article by hand
[14:19] <Apachez> but again the funny note is that when runned in windowed mode there are no freezes/hangs of the game
[14:20] <Apachez> are there perhaps some other command I could run when the freeze occurs to see what steam is actually doing ?
[14:20] <Apachez> because when the freeze occurs the sound loops aswell
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: try running steam from terminal
[14:21] <Apachez> the full game syntax or just steam itself?
[14:21] <vifino> realloc1: It probably does not really bring much new and fancy stuff for you, but it nice to have. Only do that if you feel like having an adventure.
[14:21] <realloc1> hmm i maybe should stick to ext4, it will be my main system and i will have to store some important data
[14:21] <vifino> Yeah, good call.
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: steam itself, so we can check the steam errors
[14:21] <Apachez> realloc1: I know this might sound like im a pussy, but.... backup? :)
[14:21] <Apachez> ahh ill try that
[14:21] <vifino> realloc1: How far have you been with the install on your surface before?
[14:22] <vifino> Did it run?
[14:22] <realloc1> yes
[14:22] <vifino> Good.
[14:22] <realloc1> even the touchpad worked out of the box, but only sometimes. Wifi did not work at all
[14:23] <realloc1> i installed from a micro sd... i'm preparing a new one at the moment
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: i really would try 14.10 vs 14.04 for steam perfromance
[14:25] <vifino> realloc1: I installed it from a micro sd too. Did not boot off of my usb 3 stick.
[14:25] <vifino> Also, refresh that gist, added more information.
[14:27] <g0th> hi
[14:27] <realloc1> hm ok
[14:27] <vifino> My markdown is cruel, forgive me on that part realloc1.
[14:27] <realloc1> ^^
[14:28] <g0th> After an update I get a lot of graphical errors (I had to switch ctrl + alt + f1 and back to get something something useful but still not good)
[14:28] <g0th> when I log in I don't have anything (no desktop)
[14:29] <g0th> and my keyboard seems then to become unresponsive
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> g0th: ubuntu version plz?
[14:29] <vifino> realloc1: Also: Do not use 3.18, it causes the device to be unbootable, and you have to switch to the older kernel.
[14:29] <Apachez> great
[14:29] <g0th> lotuspsychje: what's the command again?
[14:29] <torrente> hi, who speak german?
[14:29] <Apachez> now it really locked up
[14:29] <vifino> torrente: I do.
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: :p
[14:29] <g0th> 14.10
[14:29] <Apachez> last entry when loop occured
[14:29] <g0th> lsb_release -a
[14:29] <Apachez> m_face->glyph->bitmap.width is 0 for ch:32 Verdana
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> g0th: try 14.04 fresh mate
[14:30] <Apachez> and when pressing ctrl+c in that terminal window
[14:30] <Apachez> Requested Force create but SharedObjectMutex already created
[14:30] <g0th> how do I easily do that?
[14:30] <g0th> also it is not a switch issue
[14:30] <Apachez> Forced create but already created for SharedObject Event
[14:30] <g0th> I used 14.10 before
[14:30] <Apachez> that last line is shown 3 times
[14:31] <g0th> something must have happened inbetween
[14:31] <g0th> how do I reset my desktop
[14:31] <g0th> ?
[14:31] <Apachez> any hints on how to restart unity without losing running windows? :)
[14:31] <g0th> and my x-system?
[14:31] <Apachez> finally got control back
[14:31] <g0th> anyone?
[14:32] <g0th> at the moment I'm only using the console
[14:32] <EriC^^> Apachez: setsid unity
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> g0th: try grub into recoverymode
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | g0th
[14:34] <carbonkey> hello, i'm kind of new to ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone could help me with installing some packages for a printer driver
[14:34] <g0th> sigh all right
[14:34] <g0th> brb
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> carbonkey: printer type?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !printer | carbonkey,
[14:34] <carbonkey> epson xp-410
[14:35] <carbonkey> epson has a driver for it, but it requires i install lsb as a depenency before I can use gdebi to install it
[14:35] <carbonkey> and for the life of me i can't figure out how to do that, apt-get install lsb failed right off the bat
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> carbonkey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/401867/epson-xp-410-drivers
[14:39] <realloc1> vifino: Ive problems downloading... usb8797_uapsta.bin just getting a html page
[14:39] <vifino> Oh.
[14:39] <g0th> re
[14:39] <g0th> recovery was completely buggy
[14:39] <vifino> realloc1: Let me host my version on my server.
[14:39] <vifino> Just a quick mirror.
[14:39] <g0th> it just didn't do anything so I tried varies key combinations
[14:40] <g0th> e.g. ctrl + alt + delete
[14:40] <g0th> then it did something and freezed again
[14:40] <g0th> after hitting again several keys I finally got some menu for recovery graphics mode/etc but that didn't work either
[14:40] <g0th> I was forced to pull the power cord
[14:40] <g0th> it didn't respond
[14:40] <g0th> I get a much more stable behavior without recovery mode
[14:41] <jiohdi> ctl-alt-f1 gives you a terminal
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> g0th: did you try fix broken packages
[14:41] <g0th> I am in ctrl + alt + f1
[14:41] <g0th> it didn't work at the recovery mode
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> thats bad news
[14:41] <g0th> lotuspsychje: I have no broken packages
[14:41] <vifino> realloc1: Open the url with a browser
[14:41] <realloc1> ok, i did this in my git bash on windows: curl -o usb8797_uapsta.bin http://git.marvell.com/?p=mwifiex-firmware.git;a=blob;f=mrvl
[14:41] <realloc1> /usb8797_uapsta.bin
[14:41] <g0th> everything is installed fine
[14:41] <realloc1> trying with browser now..
[14:42] <g0th> it's just that my xorg system is not working properly
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> g0th: well you said you got this after updates
[14:42] <g0th> how do I reset it?
[14:42] <g0th> small updates I assume
[14:42] <g0th> and after I used windows
[14:42] <g0th> maybe windows somehow modified my bios/graphics card?
[14:42] <g0th> but I was able to boot
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> g0th: i rest my case, if you want stable use 14.04
[14:43] <g0th> so how do I do that?
[14:43] <g0th> now that I'm at 14.10?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> g0th: download the iso, make usb and install fresh
[14:43] <g0th> forget it
[14:43] <g0th> I don't have the time for all that
[14:43] <g0th> also I don't have a cd drive anymore
[14:43] <g0th> thats just silly advice
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> g0th: 14.10 is for 9 months..
[14:44] <realloc1> got it!
[14:44] <g0th> if I restart from scratch I would not use an old system
[14:44] <g0th> that has no future?
[14:44] <carbonkey> lotuspsychje, I checked your links and the ones from ubottu in case they could help
[14:44] <g0th> am I supposed to spend weeks installing a system which I can't ever update?
[14:44] <g0th> no thanks
[14:44] <carbonkey> they either pointed to a solution that is not viable in my setup or to the driver i already have downloaded
[14:44] <g0th> also 14.10 was working fine
[14:45] <g0th> I just want to know how I can reset the xorg system + desktop
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> g0th: updates on a non-lts version can give problems sometimes
[14:45] <g0th> as if I did a new installation
[14:45] <g0th> great
[14:45] <g0th> I'm on my own again
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> !xorg | g0th
[14:45] <carbonkey> i would just like to know how to install the lsb package from the tar.xz i alredy have
[14:46] <g0th> my graphics settings are wrong
[14:46] <g0th> and I got no desktop at all
[14:46] <g0th> no panel, no wm
[14:46] <g0th> nothing
[14:47] <g0th> just a background image + a mouse pointer
[14:47] <vifino> realloc1: Nice.
[14:47] <carbonkey> sorry to interrupt, you can finish talking to goth first :P
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> !tarball | carbonkey
[14:48] <carbonkey> !compile
[14:49] <g0th> how do I debug why no desktop is loaded?
[14:49] <g0th> I can login
[14:49] <g0th> but I get nothing
[14:49] <g0th> I'll create a new user, sigh
[14:50] <g0th> the same issue for the new user
[14:50] <g0th> so it can't be a user configuration issue
[14:50] <g0th> anyone?
[14:51] <vifino> realloc1: Is it installed by now?
[14:52] <g0th> Failed to start unit@1001.service: Unknown unit ....
[14:52] <realloc1> ah no sry, im doing a backup first
[14:52] <g0th> does that mean anything?
[14:52] <g0th> sigh, I think I'll switch back to debian
[14:52] <vifino> realloc1: Don't wipe windows, it is very useful for firmware updates.
[14:52] <jiohdi> g0th, a reinstall takes under half an hour, probably the fastest fix
[14:52] <cfhowlett> g0th, use what works.  best of luck to you.
[14:52] <g0th> reinstall takes several months
[14:53] <g0th> until I have my system where I want it
[14:53] <vifino> A recent one improved wifi stability too.
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> lol?
[14:53] <g0th> also I don't want to reinstall to an old version
[14:53] <g0th> that's just stupid
[14:53] <cfhowlett> g0th, oh, then you should definitely go with debian!
[14:53] <g0th> it's not a server system though
[14:54] <g0th> I don't have time for this now
[14:54] <g0th> sigh
[14:54] <g0th> I will be forced to use windows :(((
[14:54] <g0th> it's just some xorg settings
[14:54] <g0th> the rest is fine?
[14:54] <g0th> is there no way to reset it completely?
[14:55] <vifino> On servers, ubuntu > debian in my opinion. Ubuntu is stable enough and has more recent software, which is what I need.
[14:55] <cfhowlett> g0th, please stop flooding the channel.
[14:55] <g0th> ok, I'll try to purge as much as possible and then reinstall
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> !lts | g0th
[14:55] <g0th> is it possible to remember the current packages?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> g0th: aptoncd
[14:55] <g0th> cd?
[14:56] <g0th> I don't want to remove anything
[14:56] <g0th> just save the package list
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> i need coffee :p
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> laterz guys
[14:56] <g0th> sigh, this channel is frustrating
[14:56] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: care to paste that 6 tips url again?
[14:56] <g0th> I somehow always have the feeling that I'm just wasting time, but sometimes I get real help
[14:58] <Apachez> found it
[15:00] <g0th> how do I reconfigure my xorg system?
[15:00] <g0th> some package is responsible for creating the configuration file
[15:00] <g0th> which package?
[15:01] <g0th> it complains about glx missing
[15:01] <g0th> and drm2 missing
[15:01] <g0th> etc
[15:01] <g0th> something is very wrong
[15:01] <g0th> might be my display drivers
[15:01] <g0th> but I upgraded them and I still get exactly the same behavior
[15:02] <Apachez> so lets see how full screen in steam works when booted straight into big picture mode...
[15:05] <g0th> I removed all nvidia packages, trying to reboot now
[15:06] <AA>  Irc.oltreirc.net
[15:10] <feurd> I always see configurations that involve the .xsession file (especially to launch scripts at startup). But I don't have one. I only have .xsessoin.errors. Where is it?
[15:15] <Apachez> ok so some more tests... running in big picture mode natively will also bring me these freeze/hang... it seems related to font rendering, hangs when chat window is to be displayed
[15:15] <Mathis> I created a script and made an entry in Autostart programs
[15:15] <Mathis> why is it not showing up in a terminal when booting the system?
[15:16] <carbonkey> can anyone think of a reason why "apt-get install lsb" would do nothing? I have no idea how to compile from source and if i could get apt-get to work it would solve all my problems
[15:18] <Apachez> carbonkey: same with    sudo apt-get install lsb     ?
[15:18] <Apachez> also is lsb available?
[15:18] <Apachez> sudo apt-cache search lsb
[15:19] <realloc11> vifino: im switching now to my phone, so im leaving irc for a moment
[15:19] <vifino> realloc11: Okay.
[15:19] <carbonkey> i omitted sudo because i was assuming it's use, i will try to check cache
[15:19] <g0th> hi
[15:19] <carbonkey> *its
[15:20] <Lockzi> Guys, Ubuntu 14.04 x64 Desktop. I have a problem getting my Asus BT-211 Bluetooth USB Dongle to work… It seems like it can’t initiate itself and therefore reconnects http://pastebin.com/TUzVdzE8
[15:20] <g0th> after removing nvidia* I am now able to use my desktop
[15:20] <g0th> but it's a completely new one
[15:20] <Lockzi> lsusb gives me nothing about it
[15:20] <g0th> how do I reset it?
[15:20] <g0th> it's unity
[15:21] <g0th> ok, unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity
[15:22] <carbonkey> i don't see "lsb" in the list as a discrete unit, only lsb-base and lsb-release, this I assume means that the package is unavailable?
[15:22] <g0th> hmm it only works while unity-tweak-tool is running
[15:22] <g0th> how do I make it permanent?
[15:22] <akfoss> سلام
[15:23] <IsNotMyIP> Hi, i want to know some tool for making 3d games on ubuntu... I know c++ c java python js... Thanks!
[15:24] <g0th> anyone?
[15:24] <g0th> man this chat is useless
[15:24] <IsNotMyIP> g0th: Sometimes i agree with you
[15:24] <vifino> realloc1: Welcome back.
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> g0th: wassup?
[15:24] <francesco_> !list
[15:26] <g0th> ActionParsnip: I want to reset my unity
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> g0th: in what way?
[15:27] <g0th> ActionParsnip: unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity seems to work
[15:27] <g0th> but the changes go away
[15:27] <g0th> how do I make it permanent?
[15:27] <francesco_>  !list
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> g0th: you mean set Unity back to default settings?
[15:27] <g0th> my desktop looks nothing like before
[15:27] <g0th> for some reason
[15:27] <g0th> I want my old unity based desktop back
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> francesco_: it wont change in 60 seconds, trust me
[15:28] <g0th> preferably with hardware support (which doesn't seem to be an option)
[15:28] <g0th> the nvidia drivers no longer work at all
[15:28] <g0th> I had to remove them all
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> g0th: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:28] <g0th> but my main issue is to get my desktop back
[15:29] <g0th> 14.10
[15:29] <giggilatrottola> Hi, someone can explain me the steps how commerce for D7  works with a payment method? I need to integrate a new one
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> g0th: thats not the output of the command
[15:29] <g0th> Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> g0th: better. Thank you
[15:29] <g0th>  
[15:29] <g0th> I can't copy & paste
[15:30] <francesco_> 3
[15:31] <ActionParsnip>  g0th: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[15:31] <CarsonRuns> Morning. Anyone aroud that can help me with a bind server issue?
[15:31] <centime> Hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu on a friend's computer, but i'm having troubles facing UEFI/windows8. It is installed, but the bios settings still keep 2 boot order lists, one which is UEFI and one which is Legacy. and I can't make Legacy the first, so the only way I currently have to start ubuntu is to manually select my localdisk,and grub, bypassing their "OS boot manager"
[15:31] <centime> Anyone has any idea ?
[15:31] <g0th> ActionParsnip: as what should I login?
[15:32] <g0th> I'll try "Gnome"
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> g0th: your user, as usual
[15:32] <g0th> it didn't work :(
[15:32] <g0th> hmm
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> g0th: then you will need to run: setsid unity
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> g0th: then run: unity --reset-icons
[15:33] <g0th> setsid unity worked!
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> g0th: you will then have reset your Compiz settings to defaults
[15:33] <g0th> apparently also my keyboard settings
[15:33] <g0th> thanks
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> g0th: yes! It "didn't work" because the process wasn't finished
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> g0th: you cant judge a process til it's completed, can you?
[15:34] <g0th> I waited like 3 minutes
[15:34] <g0th> ah
[15:34] <g0th> your process
[15:34] <g0th> I assumed it was just one command yes
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> g0th: it's one I found online. Searhing the same Internet you can seafch
[15:34] <CarsonRuns> I have bind server installed to do name resolution for my local domain. For all the client computers, it's working fine, resolving local hosts and also relaying requests for remote hosts. The only server that can't resolve any local hosts is the ubuntu server hosting bind.
[15:34] <_root_> I need a ufi enabled .img or .iso to dd into my usb stick. do we have anything like that in linux world?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> g0th: assume nothing
[15:35] <g0th> the command unity --reset-icons never finnishes
[15:35] <g0th> hmm and it didn't save the previous settings from dconf
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> g0th: see how it goes.  This sort of crap is why I don't use compiz / unity. Too much heartache
[15:35] <g0th> and setsid
[15:36] <g0th> what do you use?
[15:36] <g0th> xfce?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> g0th: openbox
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> g0th: no DE for me
[15:36] <g0th> how can I make changes like setsid unity stick?
[15:37] <g0th> after logout and login they all vannish
[15:37] <EriC^^> _root_: the .iso 's in releases.ubuntu.com can be uefi booted
[15:37] <EriC^^> g0th: try to reinstall unity
[15:37] <g0th> I already did that
[15:38] <feurd> Is it nornal that the command 'echo $DISPLAY' returns nothing?
[15:38] <g0th> my session is messed up
[15:38] <EriC^^> g0th: really reinstall it
[15:38] <g0th> how can I tell it to use unity for my session?
[15:38] <g0th> I did that eric
[15:38] <EriC^^> g0th: apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depends/ {print $2}' | xargs sudo apt-get install --reinstall -y
[15:38] <g0th> also I don't see how that helps
[15:38] <EriC^^> did you run something like that?
[15:38] <g0th> I purged it and reinstalled it
[15:38] <EriC^^> you only reinstalled the metapackage i think
[15:38] <g0th> hmm
[15:38] <EriC^^> try the above
[15:38] <g0th> but that is a nice line
[15:39] <g0th> it reinstalls quite a lot
[15:39] <_root_> EriC^^: can be or it is? I mean if I dd the iso to my usb stick then go to uefi menu on my box. do I have ubuntu usb-stick uefi menu?
[15:39] <EriC^^> _root_: yes, it'll be there
[15:40] <EriC^^> it should
[15:40] <g0th> hmm the line does nothing ^^
[15:40] <g0th> how do I tell the session to use unity?
[15:40] <EriC^^> g0th: line should work
[15:40] <EriC^^> what's it say?
[15:40] <_root_> EriC^^: I hope it does. the ubuntu is like this . or lubuntu and xubuntu are the same?
[15:40] <g0th> it doesn't install anything
[15:41] <EriC^^> g0th: are you typing install --reinstall -y ?
[15:41] <g0th> yes
[15:41] <g0th> oh
[15:41] <g0th> found a mistake
[15:41] <Lockzi> What should you do when you are trying to get an Bluetooth dongle working and the system just disconnects and reconnects it? http://pastebin.com/TUzVdzE8
[15:42] <EriC^^> _root_: yes, i think so
[15:42] <g0th> it does something now eric
[15:44] <EriC^^> is it reinstalling everything?
[15:44] <g0th> it did
[15:44] <g0th> but still I don't have unity
[15:44]  * CarsonRuns eats rice chex while waiting for someone to help with bind issue... :)
[15:44] <feurd> I would like to use xbindkeys, but I've got an error saying that it cannot open display. And indeed the environment varialbe DISPLAY seems empty. How can I solve that?
[15:44] <EriC^^> g0th: try to log out then back in maybe
[15:44] <g0th> I tried that before
[15:44] <g0th> it doesn't work
[15:44] <g0th> tried it agai
[15:45] <EriC^^> feurd: DISPLAY=:0
[15:45] <g0th> I see "Activities" on the upper left
[15:45] <g0th> instaed of my unity panel
[15:45] <EriC^^> feurd: not sure if there's a better way though
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> g0th: their should be a session in /etc/xdg (I think its that) to give the options in LightDM
[15:45] <feurd> EriC^^: But have you got an idea about why it is empty in the first place?
[15:46] <vifino> realloc1: Hows it going?
[15:46] <vifino> Progress?
[15:46] <realloc1> installing
[15:46] <g0th> I don't see anything I understand or would help
[15:46] <g0th> that would help*
[15:47] <EriC^^> feurd: no idea
[15:47] <realloc1> i know im slow.. had issues with the sd card.. i'll report
[15:48] <EriC^^> g0th: do you use ubuntu-gnome?
[15:48] <g0th> how can I check?
[15:48] <g0th> hmm, also my desktop is unusable slow
[15:48] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-gnome
[15:48] <g0th> maybe because I don't use any graphics drivers
[15:49] <EriC^^> or dpkg -l | grep gnome-shell
[15:49] <g0th> I'll install ubuntu-gnome-desktip
[15:49] <EriC^^> no
[15:50] <EriC^^> i  meant if you have it installed and dont use it, you could try to purge it and reinstall unity
[15:50] <EriC^^> the activities bar is from gnome
[15:50] <g0th> I already spent hours on the issue now
[15:50] <g0th> I don't feel I got any step further
[15:51] <CarsonRuns> Bind issue: I have bind server installed to do name resolution for my local domain. For all the client computers, it's working fine, resolving local hosts and also relaying requests for remote hosts. The only server that can't resolve any local hosts is the ubuntu server hosting bind.
[15:51] <g0th> sigh
[15:51] <g0th> I don't have the time
[15:51] <EriC^^> g0th: try the dpkg commands
[15:52] <g0th> gnome-shell is installed
[15:52] <EriC^^> ok, if you dont use it purge it
[15:52] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell
[15:52] <Gtrfiend> Heyyyyyyyyyyy !!!!! I'm a genius ! He,he.I actually got connected with you guys ! He,he.Okay...now that we've established that,I have a few questions.....first,a while back I burned a copy of Ubuntu but for some reason none of the programs on it will work ????Anybody hve an answer for that one ??
[15:52] <g0th> purge what?
[15:52] <g0th> only gnome-shell?
[15:53] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: did you MD5 test the ISO you burned?
[15:53] <g0th> ok thanks
[15:54] <Gtrfiend> Wow....probably no,my friend
[15:54] <g0th> that seems to have done something useful
[15:54] <EriC^^> g0th: reinstall unity using the command from before
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: then how did you know it was complete and consistent?
[15:54] <g0th> any ideas why my nvidia drivers no longer work?
[15:54] <g0th> I tried 304 version and the latest
[15:55] <Gtrfiend> It's actually been so long since I burnt that copy I think I remember reading somethinmg about that but I remember that as being something slightly difficuklt and I couldn't get into it at the time
[15:55] <g0th> before I always used the 304 I think
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: I'd redownload the Trusty ISO, MD5 test it then burn it to disk as slowly as possible
[15:56] <realloc1> installation finished... rebooting
[15:56] <Gtrfiend> I'm sorry....I just threw it into the drive of the pc I wanted to try it in & tried it and up poped the desktop but nothing would repond when I tried it
[15:56] <EriC^^> g0th: no idea
[15:56] <yourbeau> ** (nautilus:4888): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-CXHg0zJkgd: Connection refused
[15:56] <yourbeau> I am getting this error a lot
[15:56] <Gtrfiend> okie dokie parsnip can i ask you something els ?
[15:57] <g0th> EriC^^: thanks
[15:57] <EriC^^> g0th: did you run the command to reinstall unity? apt-cache depends .... ?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: wassup
[15:57] <Gtrfiend> I'm reading about dual booting...............
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: ok
[15:58] <Gtrfiend> Because Wubi needs Windows and Ubuntu to co-operate, you have to deal with all the problems of both systems. For example, it's not easy to completely uninstall Wubi. An experienced linux user or someone with considerable technical knowledge about Windows might find it better to try Wubi in some certain circumstances where dual-booting is infeasible or inadvisable. See the Wubi guide for more information about Wubi, particularly how to
[15:58] <Gtrfiend> this is kind of scaring me away
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: wubi hasnt been developed for over 2 years and is abandoned
[15:59] <Gtrfiend> I'm not THAT "technical" what do you think of this statement ?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: dont use wubi. It was awful even when it was a thing
[15:59] <m-t> Hello, sombody know howto get a list of selected appointments out of korganizer? Like for example all appointments of a year showing a list of it the start and end time.
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: wubi is dead, mooting everything
[15:59] <m-t> Reoccurring appointments should show as several events in this list as well.
[15:59] <realloc1> system is running... type cover does not work, wifi does not work... im going to install the wifi package
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: what version of Windows are you wanting to dual boot with?
[15:59] <EriC^^> i just noticed something i think wubi = windows + ubuntu in the middle = wubi
[16:00] <Artemisf1> does anybody have good sources for informations about free software ? I have to give a talk about this topic at school. Ofc i found a lot of stuff on the internet but maybe some of you have different views or ideas about this topic. its for an ethics lesson
[16:00] <EriC^^> clever name, terrible idea though
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Artemisf1: that is offtopic here try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <vifino> realloc1: The newer kernel might help you with that cover.
[16:01] <Gtrfiend> Well,thank you very much for you help parsnip.Much apreciated !
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: dual boot is nearly always possible
[16:01] <Gtrfiend> Well Win 7 my freind
[16:01] <CarsonRuns> Bind issue: I have bind server installed to do name resolution for my local domain. For all the client computers, it's working fine, resolving local hosts and also relaying requests for remote hosts. The only server that can't resolve any local hosts is the ubuntu server hosting bind.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Gtrfiend: in win7 you can shrink your NTFS partition amd leave unpartitioned space. You can then install Ubuntu to the freed space
[16:02] <g0th> after I install nvidia-packages my desktop is messed up again
[16:02] <g0th> any idea how to fix that?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> g0th: are you planning to play 3D games in linux on the sytem?
[16:02] <g0th> no
[16:03] <g0th> but my desktop is extremely slow without it
[16:03] <g0th> I need "some" driver
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> g0th: tried a non compositing session using opensource driver?
[16:03] <g0th> I tried it several years ago
[16:03] <g0th> right now I just try to get my system working
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> g0th: rhe default Ubunu comes with nouveau which will drive the hardware
[16:03] <g0th> the fastest possible way
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> g0th: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> g0th:
[16:04] <g0th> I'll use the slow system for now
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> g0th: remove proprietary video dricers and log into xfce
[16:04] <g0th> before everything worked perfectly
[16:04] <g0th> and now it's very very reduced
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> g0th: before what?
[16:04] <g0th> one day ago
[16:05] <g0th> then I rebooted did some windows stuf
[16:05] <g0th> and now it doesn't work
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> g0th: ok, what happened then?
[16:05] <g0th> what I described befre
[16:05] <g0th> my graphics weren't right
[16:05] <g0th> my unity was gone
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> g0th: did you suspend or hinernate Windows?
[16:05] <g0th> I don't know
[16:05] <g0th> maybe it did on its own
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> g0th: reboot to windows, shutdown then reboot to Ubuntu
[16:06] <g0th> ok I'll try
[16:07] <realloc1> installing kernel...
[16:08]  * CarsonRuns wonders if he needs to have +v...
[16:08] <Onion> Hello. Could someone explain to me how does a developer specify the package's dependencies? For example, if I write a program in C or Vala and wishto create a deb package, how do I do it?
[16:09] <g0th> I think windows somehow made everything fail
[16:09] <g0th> how can that be?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> g0th: possible bios bug
[16:10] <g0th> sigh
[16:10] <g0th> now my desktop is gone again
[16:10] <g0th> and my graphics settings are wrong
[16:10] <g0th> Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded
[16:10] <g0th> from compiz
[16:10] <Onion> Does this contain the necessary information regarding the building of packages?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Onion: I believe you define what is needed in the makefile
[16:10] <m-t> g0th: Do you know search machines? --> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/
[16:10] <Onion> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[16:11] <carbonkey> well, something in some tutorial you linked me to earlier helped me fix my problem so thanks Apachez and lotuspsychje :D
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Onion: rhe guys jn #c may be able to advise
[16:12] <Apachez> carbonkey: and that was? :P
[16:12] <maeryo> 1
[16:13] <intheguts> Anyone here use spark for work?
[16:13] <Logus> Hallo miteinander. Habe eine Frage zu Webserver-Logs. Habe bei mir (Lubuntu 14.04) einen zur Probe installiert und die Access-Logs angeguckt. Wenn der Browser den Browser-Cache nutzt, wird bei mir trotzdem was in den Logs angezeigt, dass ein paar Bytes übertragen wurden. Was ist das?
[16:13] <EriC^^> !de | Logus
[16:13] <Espen__> Hi, could anyone please help me out? Im having trouble with a hard drive not mounting after shutdown. It fails at startup every boot.
[16:14] <realloc1> ok kernel and wifi installed... hmmm wifi still does not work
[16:14] <Espen__> Not sure if the drive is faulty, or my partitioning being wrong.
[16:14] <CarsonRuns> Bind issue: I have bind server installed to do name resolution for my local domain. For all the client computers, it's working fine, resolving local hosts and also relaying requests for remote hosts. The only server that can't resolve any local hosts is the ubuntu server hosting bind.
[16:14] <carbonkey> uhh, the compilingsoftware tutorial, although it basically just pointed me to launchpad and i installed all the dependencies for the package individually x_x
[16:14] <carbonkey> anyway, thanks, i'm off now
[16:15] <g0th> now I get a black screen after a reboot
[16:15] <g0th> :(
[16:17] <g0th> ActionParsnip: how do I get back the desktop?
[16:17] <g0th> I didn't do anything besides rebooting on windows, shutdown and then reboot on ubuntu
[16:17] <g0th> and now I don't have a desktop
[16:17] <g0th> it complains about "plugin opengl not loaded"
[16:17] <g0th> when I try to start unity
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> g0th: press CTRL + ALT + F1 and run: killall -u $USER
[16:18] <tonyt> reinstall your video card driver
[16:18] <kza> Hello. How do I add a extra "workspace" or "tab" when using Ubunu in non gui-mode?
[16:18] <g0th> tonyt: my nvidia driver doesn't work anymore somehow
[16:18] <EriC^^> kza: you mean you want another tty?
[16:18] <g0th> tonyt: so I removed it but before it worked
[16:18] <tonyt> k
[16:19] <g0th> EriC^^: everything we did got somehow reset back to something even worse after rebooting on windows and booting back on ubuntu
[16:19] <g0th> now I can't even start unity
[16:19] <kza> EriC^^: I'm new, so my terminology is quite limited. But yes? If tty means another "tab" in the non-gui mode where I can do other things. :)
[16:19] <g0th> and my graphics are messed up even without any nvidia drivers
[16:19] <EriC^^> g0th: i think it has to do with booting into windows
[16:19] <g0th> I can't use it as a dual boot system?
[16:19] <EriC^^> g0th: i personally removed lubuntu a few days ago after installing it, and i used the same method to get unity back
[16:19] <g0th> hmm, how do I get my ubuntu system back?
[16:19] <realloc1> vifino: could it be that i have to configure wifi manually?
[16:20] <CarsonRuns> kza: Try using "screen". type man screen to get the man pages for it.
[16:20] <vifino> realloc1: Rebooted?
[16:20] <vifino> Probably, right?
[16:20] <EriC^^> kza: by non-gui mode do you mean a terminal in unity?
[16:20] <Espen__> Anyone got time to help me out troubleshooting why a drive of mine won´t mount up? UUID is right, and i can't find anything in dmesg | tail
[16:20] <realloc1> yes
[16:20] <EriC^^> kza: tty is the ctrl+alt+f1
[16:20] <realloc1> p.s. type cover works now, even touchpad
[16:20] <kza> EriC^^: yeah, then tty it is. :)
[16:21] <EriC^^> kza: ok, you can press ctrl+alt+f2-f6 to get other tty's
[16:21] <kza> oh! much appreciated
[16:21] <EriC^^> kza: if you want to run multiple commands in the same tty you can use screen
[16:22] <EriC^^> or background the commands
[16:22] <realloc1> maybe the wifi file is damaged... is there a md5 sum available for the file?
[16:23] <kza> EriC^^: Alright, thanks! I assume alt+<F key> will switch between tty's?
[16:23] <vifino> realloc1: Okay, cover works. Now I will probably give you my firmware file, because that download seems to be not working.
[16:23] <EriC^^> kza: yup
[16:24] <CJKay> Hi guys, I can't seem to add an IPv6 address to eth0:0, but I can add IPv6 addresses to eth0 and IPv4 addresses to eth0:0
[16:24] <CJKay> Any ideas why that might be?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: what file system is the partition? (You don't mount drives)
[16:25] <Espen__> ext4
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: is it USB based?
[16:26] <Espen__> nah SATA
[16:26] <CarsonRuns> bind issue: I have bind server installed to do name resolution for my local domain. For all the client computers, it's working fine, resolving local hosts and also relaying requests for remote hosts. The only server that can't resolve any local hosts is the ubuntu server hosting bind.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: bit easier, does the filesytem fsck as ok?
[16:26] <Espen__> not sure how do i check?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: what is the file system raw ID name? (Eg /dev/sh1)
[16:27] <Espen__>  /dev/sda1
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: ok then with sda1 unmounted, run: sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[16:28] <Espen__> e2fsck 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014) /dev/sda1: clean, 64/183148544 files, 16691071/732566272 blocks
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: it will make sure the filesystem is clean and ok
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: ok, can you mow mount it manually?
[16:29] <Espen__> still not working
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: what does the terminal output when you try?
[16:29] <Espen__> root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount /dev/sda1 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[16:30] <vifino> realloc1: Try http://chrono.i0i0.me/firmware/usb8797_uapsta.bin
[16:30] <vifino> Directly scp'd from my tablet
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: try: sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -t ext4
[16:31] <Espen__> that works, no errors
[16:31] <realloc1> ok mom
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: ok, and can you see the data in /media/sda1
[16:32] <Espen__> the content of my previous mounting is in it
[16:32] <Espen__> mount*
[16:32] <vifino> realloc1: Just replace that file you downloaded with the new one. If it isn't working, tell me. You might have to have more or different mrvl drivers.
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: ok cool. did you add the file system in /etc/fstab ?
[16:33] <Espen__> ye, my fstab has this for the 3TB drive
[16:33] <Espen__> UUID=f2b0c0be-0bb7-473b-9188-a3745ae15159 /greenstorage ext4    defaults,umask=000              0       1
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: ok and the output of: sudo blkid | grep sda1
[16:34] <Espen__>  /dev/sda1: UUID="f2b0c0be-0bb7-473b-9188-a3745ae15159" TYPE="ext4"
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: right, looks good. Did you make the /greenstorage folder
[16:35] <shiv_> how to install ubuntu software package on boss
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> shiv_: what is "boss"?
[16:36] <realloc1> vifino: WORKS!
[16:36] <vifino> Bastard open source  software :P
[16:36] <vifino> realloc1: \o/
[16:36] <Espen__> yeah, sudo mkdir green storage and chmod 777. it has content different from media folder i just made though
[16:36] <Espen__> might be leftovers from a failed attempt
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: why chmod 777 ?
[16:37] <Espen__> deluge seems to have trouble saving files sometimes
[16:37] <Espen__> so i just went with 777
[16:37] <CarsonRuns> bind issue: I have bind server installed to do name resolution for my local domain. For all the client computers, it's working fine, resolving local hosts and also relaying requests for remote hosts. The only server that can't resolve any local hosts is the ubuntu server hosting bind.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: thats really unsecure. Ext4 can store effective linux ACLs. So 777 isnt needed
[16:38] <vifino> realloc1: Okay, now a quick tip: install tlp and tlp-rdw ( or something like that, don't remember)
[16:38] <vifino> Improves battery life.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: have you tried remobing the umask=000 bit from the fstab emtry?
[16:39] <Espen__> your kidding me.. that made it work
[16:40] <realloc1> vifino: Power management application?
[16:40] <realloc1> i see
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: yeah, because you are using Ext4 which is a Linux filesytem...in Linux. It works. You dont need to mess with it as the ACL amd such is managed
[16:41] <vifino> realloc1: Yes.
[16:41] <Espen__> deluge seems to have trouble writing to it though, if i don't set chmod 777
[16:41] <vifino> Look at the gist again, updated it.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: so (for some reason) you started messing with the access in fstab and 777 nonesene when the folders will be accessible as long as the folders containing the data are writable as you user, which iss the userna,me your applicatio will run as
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: chown the mount point and subfolders to your user and it will have all the access it needs
[16:43] <vifino> realloc1: Look at the gist again, updated it.
[16:45] <realloc1> vifino: Hmm just some question.. i have a custom kernel now... can this cause problems with updates?
[16:45] <vifino> realloc1: No, probably not.
[16:46] <realloc1> so that ubuntu wants to override it with the default one
[16:46] <realloc1> ok
[16:46] <vifino> Unless there is a new official one, which then replaces it.
[16:46] <vifino> But that means it is fixed.
[16:46] <realloc1> ah ok
[16:46] <vifino> Or stable/etc..
[16:46] <Espen__> Thanks for the help ActionParsnip
[16:46] <Espen__> :)
[16:47] <realloc1> Thx a lot again! What do i owe you? ;-)
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Espen__: no worries, easy when you understand ACLs
[16:48] <vifino> realloc1: Nothing, but I do have a request to you: Please share that gist to anyone who wants to do that.
[16:50] <CarsonRuns> Ubuntu server configured with bind. Bind is doing name resolution for all local clients and functioning properly for all clients in the local network; however, the server running bind is not able to resolve any names on the local network. dig @localhost home.local returns "connection timed out; no servers could be reached" I can resolve external host names from that same ubuntu server running bind.
[16:50] <gnychis> I extracted the Ubuntu Server iso to a flash drive to use.  I want to setup a preseed.  I see the "preseed/" directory with a bunch of files in it (e.g., 'cloud.seed', 'ubuntu-server.seed').  Which one is run so I know which to modify?
[16:53] <realloc1> vifino: of course i will
[16:53] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: have you built the zone files for the local network?
[16:53] <vifino> realloc1: Good, and check that gist from time to time, I might update it.
[16:54] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins: yes. name resolution is working for all clients on my network except for the server itself.
[16:54] <cgt> Is it possible to get/install a man page without installing the software?
[16:55] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, for instance I can ping nas1.home.local from my desktop and it resolves. I do the same from the server that is running bind and it can't resolve the name.
[16:55] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: Possibly check your nsswitch file; see if the server is listening on 127.0.0.1.  Bind logs pretty well, you can increase the verbosity.
[16:56] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: You could try dig @<ipaddress>
[16:56] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, what IP address? That of the server?
[16:58] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9671898/
[16:58] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: Yes.
[17:00] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: I meant dig@192.168.1.10 somelocal.host
[17:01] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9671914/
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> CarsonRuns: resolves to 192.168.1.111
[17:02] <CarsonRuns> ActionParsnip, that's the correct IP for laserjet, yes. But if I ping it from the server console, I get unknown host.
[17:02] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: Looks pretty functional to me.  Make sure bind is listinging to localhost or that resolv.conf points at the 198 address.
[17:03] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, yeah, it's working for ever other host except the server. So, I guess my have DNS incorrectly configured on the server??
[17:03] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, I'm not sure how to make sure that bind is listing to localhost...
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> CarsonRuns: yes, set the DNS in /etc/resolv.conf and you should be ok
[17:05] <CarsonRuns> ActionParsnip: that file already contains: nameserver 192.168.1.10
[17:05] <CarsonRuns> That's the correct IP of the server.
[17:06] <bubbasaures> cgt, be real specific here.
[17:10] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: I'd just point resolv.conf at the 198 address, that should take care of it.
[17:10] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: Well, that's a bit odd.
[17:10] <vitimiti> Can somebody help me with this .desktop file I have? It doesn't appear in the Unity dash but I can execute it through the command ./.local/share/applications/WoW\ CoRe.desktop. I know it's not an official issue, but I'd swear that the .desktop files work like this but this one does not appear: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9671963/
[17:11] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: You could try commenting out the "files" key in nsswitch.
[17:12] <cgt> bubbasaures: I'm wondering if it is possible to "install" a package's man page without installing the entire package (i.e., the software)
[17:12] <bubbasaures> cgt, What package, and are you sure it has a man?
[17:13] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins: do I need "listen-on {127.0.0.1}..." in the named.conf.options file?
[17:13] <cgt> openssh-server
[17:13] <cgt> I don't want to install openssh-server on my desktop, I just want the sshd_config man page
[17:13] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, I dont' know what the nsswitch file is.
[17:13] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: Server should default to that, unless you have a listen-on directive for the 198 address... http://forum.ivorde.ro/configure-bind-named-server-to-listen-on-localhost-on-debian-t95.html
[17:13] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: /etc/nsswitch.conf
[17:14] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: Determines order of resolution for various lookups.
[17:14] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, I was just looking at that page. I dont' have that line in my config file.
[17:14] <john_247> holy shit man
[17:14] <CarsonRuns> Let me check out the nsswitch file, stand by.
[17:15] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: You shouldn't need that line, unless you have another line that tells it to listen (only) on 192.168.1.10 address.
[17:16] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins: have  listen-on { 192.168.1.10; }; in the named.conf.options
[17:17] <jhutchins> CarsonRuns: That's what's causing it then.
[17:17] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, so remove that or add the listen on local hosts directive?
[17:24] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins: added listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; to my named.conf.options files. Restarted bind. Ran lsof -Pni :53 and it shows that the server is listening on the loopback address: named   30443            bind   20u  IPv4 784459      0t0  TCP 127.0.0.1:53 (LISTEN)
[17:24] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, still can't resolve local hosts from the server. Ping fails with unknown host
[17:28] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins: interesting. The local host now resolves using nslookup, but still unknown host when I try to ping it.
[17:32] <Cobalt> Hallo there. Happy new year. My problem is two-fold. I visited a site and inadvertently clicked on install (for better integration and whatnot). I can't for the world of me see what has changed in Ubuntu or Firefox. Where is this integration thing please?
[17:32] <Cobalt> My second problem is this - how do I get rid of it now?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Cobalt, look in the broeser history for the site so we know what you're talking about
[17:34] <BluesKaj> browser
[17:34] <Cobalt> BluesKaj: Oh. http://www.youtube.com
[17:36] <BluesKaj> that doesn't tell us much, what kind of integration do you mean, with the browser perhaps?
[17:37] <Cobalt> BluesKaj: It seems to be a feature of Ubuntu/Firefox in 14.10. When I visit certain sites (and that is very arbitrary), it will occasionally ask me if I want to install the site for better integration. I usually click no. But this time I accidentally clicked install.
[17:37] <Cobalt> BluesKaj: I thought this was a very well-documented feature of Ubuntu. I'm perplexed nobody seems to know anything of it.
[17:37] <kostkon> Cobalt, it is
[17:37] <kostkon> Cobalt, search for youtube in the dash
[17:37] <BluesKaj> Cobalt, sorry no idea, I use chrome
[17:37] <Cobalt> kostkon: Nothing comes up.
[17:38] <fabio_>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[17:38] <Cobalt> BluesKaj: I think Chrome does the same too. But I haven't used that in a while.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> probly meant for windows
[17:38] <Cobalt> No this is a Ubuntu thing.
[17:39] <Lugal> Hello
[17:39] <kostkon> Cobalt, i guess you are fine.
[17:40] <Cobalt> kostkon: I sort of remember turning app tracking off; but integration is still on. Doesn't seem to have done anything, which is a bit strange.
[17:40] <Lugal> if I use WireShark on my computer, does it show me only the traffic that is sent to my computer or also the internet traffic from other computers?
[17:40] <Lugal> (having many computer using the same router)
[17:40] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins: I found the problem, multicast dns. Here is the article that addresses it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81797/nslookup-finds-ip-but-ping-doesnt
[17:41] <CarsonRuns> jhutchins, I removed the mdns entries from the nsswitch.conf file and it works perfectly now. Thanks for steering me in the right direction.
[17:47] <realloc1> vifino: i don't want to get on your nerves again, but ubuntu offers me updates, which also include kernel updates for 3.16, can i savely install them, or could it mess up the installed 3.17 kernel?
[17:48] <vifino> realloc1: Should be fine, since the latest kernel is used.
[17:48] <realloc1> ty
[17:48] <vifino> But keep the deb's handy.
[17:52] <_Opj> need help regarding tor
[17:52] <_Opj> hello zima
[17:54] <Lugal> does Canonical as a company has the duty to cooperate with the NSA?
[17:55] <_Opj> how to go to #tor   ?????
[17:55] <_Opj> first time using IRC  :/
[17:56] <Mathis> try entering /join #<yourchannelname>
[17:56] <_Opj> I am using Xchat
[17:56] <Mathis> into your textfield
[17:56] <_Opj> ok thanx Mathis
[17:57] <deepak> hello
[17:58] <deepak> i need help in windows 7 and ubuntu dual boot
[17:58] <_Opj> I entered  /join #tor . Its says welcome to ##notter @Mathis
[17:59] <_Opj> it says #tor is at irc.ofc.net
[17:59] <_Opj> I am stuck :(
[17:59] <bubbasaures> deepak, Details for help.
[17:59] <_Opj> I wanna go to #tor
[17:59] <bubbasaures> your details that is on the problem ;)
[18:00] <_Opj> hey bubbasaures, I wanna go to #otr
[18:00] <_Opj> #tor
[18:00] <_Opj> how to go over there
[18:00] <xangua> _Opj: /join #freenode for freenode help
[18:01] <_Opj> thanx xangua
[18:01] <deepak> hi i am new to this chat and taking a little time to get it. i will explain my prob now
[18:02] <_Opj> deepak and I are alike   :P
[18:02] <deepak> in my hp pressario v 600 lap top i have installed windows 7 in ntfs partition
[18:03] <_Opj> ok then what  @deepak
[18:04] <deepak> my dvd drive is not working. also usb boot is not supported. so i va tried to install ubuntu along side with windows with a usb cd rom
[18:05] <deepak> after installing wubi and when try to restart the system it stuck with an error msg
[18:06] <deepak> the msg isTry hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr, Try(hd0, 0): ntfs5: error: "prefix is not set"
[18:07] <bubbasaures> deepak, Wubi is not supported why did you choose that install?
[18:07] <deepak> in this situation i dont know mush more options. sorry
[18:08] <bubbasaures> !dualboot | deepak
[18:08] <_Opj> deepak you should go from the beginning
[18:08] <bubbasaures> deepak, You could use a virtual or dual boot it the wubi is a waste of time and not stable is all.
[18:10] <_Opj> i'll go with bubbasaures :)
[18:10] <deepak> am using a customised ubuntu for education purpose in keala india. it contains a lot in our local language
[18:10] <jym> @deepak, you can install it on a usb bootable and then install it from the usb ;)
[18:11] <deepak> can i make a bootable pen drive to install it from the dvd rom, because my dvd rom is not working
[18:11] <_Opj> deepak why don't you learn Ubuntu by using live boot without installing
[18:12] <deepak> sorry my dvd rom is not working
[18:12] <_Opj> deepak if you have an  .iso file then you can make bootable from usb
[18:12] <jym> you don't need a dvd rom, just a plug usb
[18:13] <bubbasaures> deepak, What ubuntu release is this, I'm a little concerned your installing a release not supported here by whom released it or the version.
[18:13] <deepak> how it is possible
[18:13] <deepak> any tool for that
[18:14] <jym> this one for example http://www.linuxliveusb.com/fr/
[18:14] <deepak> it is based on ubuntu 14.04 lts
[18:14] <_Opj> deepak try this link   http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[18:14] <_Opj> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[18:15] <_Opj> or if you have windows installed then wait
[18:15] <theadmin> deepak: Use the LinuxLiveUSB tool jym linked above. I have used it for a long time now and it never failed on me.
[18:15] <bubbasaures> deepak, Cool, however custom releases beyond canonical are not supported here, mainly I would hate to have you get installed than have less support that you would with a legit release.
[18:15] <theadmin> deepak: Just remove the /fr/ from the URL because that's the french wobsite.
[18:16] <jym> yes, sorry, I pasted it too fast ^^
[18:16] <_Opj> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:16] <_Opj> deepak try new link
[18:17] <_Opj> can anyone help me out with TOr ?
[18:17] <_Opj> I am stuck in its tutorial :/
[18:17] <theadmin> _Opj: yes?
[18:17] <_Opj> thanx threadmin
[18:17] <theadmin> _Opj: beh, is simple really
[18:17] <_Opj> I am trying the hello world tutorial
[18:17] <theadmin> _Opj: Are you on 32-bit or 64-bit?
[18:17] <_Opj> but python shell is giving error
[18:17] <Kosse> Do you know a tool with I can see how the browser works (how many requests to if I go to a website, how many HTTP-connections, ...)?
[18:17] <_Opj> I guess 64 bit  :P
[18:18] <_Opj> not sure
[18:18] <theadmin> _Opj: And, do you intend to use it only for browsing, or for proxying other applications?
[18:18] <theadmin> _Opj: uname -m will tell you
[18:18] <_Opj> I wanna master the application
[18:18] <_Opj> whatever it takes
[18:18] <_Opj> I can set a proxy
[18:19] <theadmin> I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you just want to browse the web via Tor, the browser bundle is seriously the best option. It's preconfigured and stuffs.
[18:19] <_Opj> No, I want to write scripts to talk to TOr relay  @theadmin
[18:19] <_Opj> I am using ubuntu 14.04
[18:19] <theadmin> _Opj: Oh. Alright then.
[18:19] <_Opj> :)
[18:20] <deepak> ok thanks for your immediate great support. actually am new to ubuntu and just started loving it. i will try with the tools as per your instruction and will be back soon . thanks. see u later
[18:20] <_Opj> https://stem.torproject.org/tutorials/the_little_relay_that_could.html
[18:20] <_Opj> I am here
[18:20] <_Opj> I tried but getting error from python shell
[18:21] <_Opj> deepak anyttime help
[18:21] <bubbasaures> deepak, You want to be aware that this channel is a limited ubuntu support has to be canonical based basically
[18:21] <_Opj> I love doing that
[18:21] <theadmin> _Opj: Well, what is the error?
[18:21] <bubbasaures> lots of derivatives not supported here
[18:21] <_Opj> wait  @theadmin
[18:22] <_Opj> >>> import stem
[18:22] <_Opj> >>> from stem.control import Controller
[18:22] <_Opj> >>> with Controller.from_port ( port = 9051 ) as controller:
[18:22] <_Opj> 	controller.authenticate ( )
[18:22] <_Opj> 	
[18:22] <_Opj> Traceback (most recent call last):
[18:22] <unopaste> _Opj you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:22] <k1l_> Lugal: what do you mean?
[18:23] <Lugal> Has NSA the possibility to include backdoor in Ubuntu?
[18:23] <theadmin> Lugal: Since everything Ubuntu comes with is open-source, the answer is no. Anyone can check for one easily.
[18:23] <kostkon> _Opj, do you know how to program in Python?
[18:23] <_Opj> a little bit
[18:23] <_Opj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9672358/
[18:24] <k1l_> Lugal: canonical as company said they will not cooperate with nsa or similar in building backdoors. since its all open source you could invistigate if you dont trust their word
[18:24] <Lugal> but how can I know that the binaries that I install are the same as in the code?
[18:24] <_Opj> follow the link to get the error msg  @theadmin
[18:24] <k1l_> Lugal: that is the problem of binaries and not a problem for canonical.
[18:24] <Lugal> or if I update the packages
[18:24] <kostkon> _Opj, try a different port? probably one that is higher than 1024
[18:24] <theadmin> _Opj: Yeah okay, "connection refused" means Tor isn't accepting your connection. You did not supply a password to authenticate(), though.
[18:24] <k1l_> Lugal: if you install a nvidia binary you need to talk to nvidia for that, not canonical
[18:24] <Lugal> but is it not forced by the law, that every company has to cooperate?
[18:25] <ki7rw> hmm, anyone aware of a problem with freenode? i can't connect to it anymore
[18:25] <_Opj> how to supply a password ???
[18:25] <Lugal> I am not from the US, but I think I have heard so
[18:25] <_Opj> where to add passoword ???
[18:25] <k1l_> Lugal: canonical is not a US company
[18:25] <theadmin> _Opj: Read the documentation, but I assume you want to just do controller.authenticate("mypassword")
[18:25] <Lugal> not?
[18:25] <Lugal> its where?
[18:25] <k1l_> Lugal: england
[18:26] <k1l_> ki7rw: you are actually at freenode
[18:26] <_Opj> ok let me try   @theadmin
[18:26] <Lugal> ok
[18:26] <_Opj> by the way thanx "theadmin "  & "kostkon"
[18:26] <Lugal> and in england its not forced to cooperate with secret services?
[18:26] <Lugal> I mean by law
[18:27] <k1l_> not that i am aware of.
[18:27] <Lugal> Does Ubuntu use Systemd?
[18:27] <theadmin> Lugal: Yes, from what I know, it does use systemd currently.
[18:27] <k1l_> Lugal: it will siwtch to systemd. target is 16.04
[18:28] <Lugal> is not systemd made by a US company and so cooperating with NSA, I've read it in "techrights" recently
[18:28] <Lugal> can you not take another init instead?
[18:28] <k1l_> Lugal: if you do illegal stuff and the services can prrof that any company got to hand out the informations if a judge says so. but that is another case then building in a backdoor. which ubuntu/canonical does not.
[18:29] <_Opj> kostkon:   changing the port didn't help   :P   here is the error msg       http://paste.ubuntu.com/9672387/
[18:29] <k1l_> Lugal: not everything form the US is evil.
[18:29] <Lugal> of course not :D
[18:29] <k1l_> Lugal: and not every "opinion" is based on facts. please keep to the facts and not "someone said ...."
[18:30] <ki7rw> k1l_: well, i must have a problem with my other pc cause i can't get in with the laptop - don't know what has changed - i tried re-installing quassel with no luck
[18:30] <kostkon> _Opj, https://stem.torproject.org/api/control.html#stem.control.Controller.authenticate that redirects to https://stem.torproject.org/api/connection.html#stem.connection.authenticate  you can provide a password
[18:31] <Lugal> keep to facts = get access to canonical master server, and check everything out myself? ;D
[18:31] <k1l_> ki7rw: what is the error message?
[18:31] <k1l_> Lugal: lets start with: what do you want to check?
[18:31] <_Opj> kostkon,  :   ok let me see   :)
[18:31] <Lugal> I cant check all code myself for backdoor, so I have to keep to what xsomeone said^
[18:31] <Lugal> ^^
[18:32] <Lugal> and does canonical audit all code from third parties, before including it to update server?
[18:32] <theadmin> Lugal: Most certainly yes.
[18:32] <ki7rw> k1l_: http://pastebin.com:NwQy311S
[18:32] <theadmin> Lugal: There's a complicated process to even get packages from Debian upstream, as far as I understand.
[18:32] <k1l_> Lugal: so. we already said that you can see all code if you want to since its open source. if you cant understand the code you need to trust someone who does. but someone who just says "its from us and all us is evil" has nothing to do with that.
[18:34] <ki7rw> k1l_: that's all i get after identifying myself
[18:35] <evangeline_> hi, how can I add this repository: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man3/lua-oocairo.3.html to ubuntu 14.04 in order to be able to install oocairo ?
[18:35] <kostkon> _Opj, in your case, that would be controller.authenticate (password="mypass")  in case you haven't tried that already
[18:35] <evangeline_> from the description of the package I'm not seeing in which repository the oocairo is ?
[18:35] <theadmin> evangeline_: Eh, it's from the built-in repos, you just "sudo apt-get install lua-oocairo"
[18:35] <k1l_> ki7rw: rename the config folder (.quassel ?) and try with a clean profile
[18:36] <evangeline_> theadmin, yeah I know, but the package is not there, also the apt-cache search doesn't find it
[18:36] <Lugal> btw, whats the difference between Unix and Linux? would it be possible to play Mac OS games nativly on Ubuntu? and how?
[18:36] <hakim> hello all.. so i attached my monitor to the laptop via VGA and i cant get the resolution to 1366x766 unless i modify it via xrandr .. But a reboot causes the settings to go back to something i dont want.. Any ideas on how to get the resolution to stay at 1366x766 on the monitor.
[18:36] <theadmin> Lugal: No, you can't run OS X apps.
[18:36] <k1l_> Lugal: linux is about the linux kernel
[18:37] <theadmin> Lugal: UNIX is the parent system, the first one, created by AT&T ages ago. Linux is a kernel. GNU/Linux is a base UNIX-like operating system.
[18:37] <k1l_> Lugal: and if you dont like open source code from a trustworthy distributer like canonical you want to play binary games form mac os? o_O
[18:38] <Lugal> I like playing league of legends
[18:38] <Lugal> but i would like to get rid of Windows
[18:38] <theadmin> Lugal: You can use Wine to run Windows apps on Linux.
[18:39] <theadmin> Lugal: It won't always work, but quite often you'll have a decent result.
[18:39] <Lugal> is wine free software?
[18:39] <Lugal> and open source?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:39] <Buntunub> you can run STEAM games on Linux if they have Linux ports available -- currently over 700 games
[18:39] <Apachez> about 20 or so worth naming
[18:39] <Apachez> the other 680 of them are just like... meh :)
[18:39] <k1l_> Lugal: sorry please stop worrying about backdoors in ubuntu if you want to run "games" made in adobe air and flash
[18:39] <hakim> hello all.. so i attached my monitor to the laptop via VGA and i cant get the resolution to 1366x766 unless i modify it via xrandr .. But a reboot causes the settings to go back to something i dont want.. Any ideas on how to get the resolution to stay at 1366x766 on the monitor.
[18:40] <Siilwyn> Lugal, Buntunub: Don't expect miracles, I tried running CS:GO. Even Valve fails at porting.
[18:40] <k1l_> Lugal: really. you are worring if there is a scratch in a window when on the other side the whole wall is missing.
[18:40] <SchrodingersScat> GO worked fine on mine.
[18:41] <theadmin> Siilwyn: Say what now? TF2 works better on Linux than it ever did on Windows. You probably have issues with your graphics driver or something...
[18:41] <Buntunub> every game I have purchased on STEAM had no trouble playing for me on Debian Wheezy
[18:41] <evangeline_> hakim, ideas?
[18:41] <whoever> hi all, is there  a ppa for crunch-wordlist
[18:41] <neckutrek> anyone knows how I can copy a file from my HD into the filesystem of an OS (win7) that I installed on a virtual machine (virtualbox)?
[18:42] <xangua> !ppa | have you searched¿ whoever
[18:42] <pipi-> neckutrek: shared folders
[18:42] <neckutrek> so that I can run those files under the "virtual" OS
[18:42] <hakim> @evangeline_ what do you mean
[18:42] <mtien> hello. i have encountered a problem. when i connect an external hard drive via usb 3 extension cord, it wouldn't unmount. anyone ever have this problem?
[18:42] <Siilwyn> SchrodingersScat, theadmin: mine just keeps crashing. I filed a bug and more users are affected but no response from Valve.https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive/issues/229
[18:42] <qq_> hi
[18:42] <qq_> hello
[18:42] <kostkon> qq_, hi
[18:42] <Siilwyn> hey
[18:42] <evangeline_> hakim, the lua-oocairo is not present in my repositories, do you have any idea how to add the appropriate repository?
[18:42] <qq_> can somebody teach me how to install application
[18:42] <SchrodingersScat> neckutrek: virtualbox has a setting for folders that pass through to the guest os, when you place a file in that directory the windows guest should be able access it.
[18:42] <hakim> sorry i do not
[18:43] <k1l_> qq_: open softwarecenter
[18:43] <neckutrek> schrodinger, thanks!
[18:43] <qq_> ok, thanks kil
[18:43] <whoever> xangua: ya
[18:43] <qq_> i amnew to ubuntu
[18:43] <whoever> neckutrek: did you get an awser yet
[18:43] <whoever> neckutrek:  is it dual boot or do we have vm's
[18:44] <neckutrek> whoever: vm's, virtualbox
[18:44] <whoever> !stupid
[18:44] <mtien> anyone here use usb 3 devices via usb 3 extension cord?
[18:44] <hakim> hello all.. so i attached my monitor to the laptop via VGA and i cant get the resolution to 1366x766 unless i modify it via xrandr .. But a reboot causes the settings to go back to something i dont want.. Any ideas on how to get the resolution to stay at 1366x766 on the monitor.
[18:44] <whoever> neckutrek: you want to go into your vm with file or from the vm to the native os
[18:44] <torrente> why it dont need to register in this channel?
[18:44] <mtien> in ubuntu?
[18:45] <k1l_> torrente: its a beginners channel
[18:45] <whoever> neckutrek: do you have a share dir from your native os to the vm
[18:45] <m-t> hakim: This might help you with xrandr ... and I used arandr but not sure anymore if it set the settings permanently or if it was something else I did. But the manual should give you a idea of what you need to do to setup your monitor properly.
[18:46] <whoever> neckutrek: that would be the easiest way
[18:46] <mtien> guess my problem is too new?
[18:46] <neckutrek> whoever: i just added a shared folder, the one that contains the files I want to run
[18:46] <neckutrek> now just, how do I find them in on my vm's OS...
[18:46] <k1l_> torrente: support not in pm please. for other channels please ask in #freenode or the operators from that channels
[18:46] <torrente> ok
[18:47] <whoever> neckutrek: in the vm browse network
[18:47] <mah454> Hello
[18:47] <whoever> you should see something ie vm shae
[18:47] <whoever> mah454: hello
[18:47] <neckutrek> whoever: on windows on the vm you mean?
[18:47] <hakim> is arandr an app? m-t
[18:48] <whoever> neckutrek: the vm
[18:48] <whoever> neckutrek: what is the vm
[18:48] <neckutrek> win7
[18:48] <neckutrek> virtualbox with win7
[18:48] <m-t> right hakim
[18:48] <ki7rw> k1l_: well, it sucks but i did recreate the config file and now i'm back on the lappy
[18:49] <m-t> Hakim: Its a frontend for xrandr.
[18:49] <whoever> neckutrek: ok under network you will probably see something that looks like vbox/<share folder name>
[18:49] <hakim> m-t: is it a GUI
[18:49] <neckutrek> whoever: do I need to restart my vm after adding the shared folder?
[18:49] <mah454> I want to install fglrx on laptop dell vostro 3350 (HD 6400M/7400M Series) , I downloaded amd-catalyst-omega-14.12-linux-run-installers.zip , but can not install this driver !!! receive "Adapter not supported"
[18:49] <m-t> GUI frontend ;) ...
[18:49] <mah454> How can fix this ?
[18:49] <whoever> neckutrek: if you do not see it try to refresh the search, if you still don't see it then restart it
[18:49] <k1l_> mah454: please pastebin a "lspci"
[18:50] <Siilwyn> theadmin, so I guess it's not a graphics driver problem.
[18:50] <hakim> will give it a try
[18:50] <hakim> thanks
[18:50] <whoever> neckutrek: i assumed you have guest additions installed, if not you should
[18:50] <mah454> k1l_:  http://pastebin.com/e4GWscgm
[18:51] <k1l_> mah454: did the fglrx form ubuntu work?
[18:51] <neckutrek> whoever, whats a guest addition?...
[18:52] <mah454> k1l_: I use ubuntu 14.10 , I installed fglrx driver on 13.04 and work without ony problem ...
[18:52] <mah454> k1l_: but in 14.10 can not install it !
[18:52] <k1l_> neckutrek: you install that on the guest OS to make it work better with virtualboy
[18:52] <k1l_> *box
[18:52] <whoever> neckutrek: virtualbox, how did you install it apt-get or software center
[18:52] <k1l_> mah454: the one form ubuntu repo? not the one from website
[18:53] <neckutrek> to be honest, I'm running mac os x currently, usually i run ubuntu but I just wanted to try one thing out on win7 so I dl'd a vm for it...
[18:53] <mah454> k1l_: i downloaded driver from amd.com not ubuntu repository .
[18:53] <tdannecy> !ping
[18:53] <k1l_> neckutrek: :/ so please check the apple support on that
[18:54] <k1l_> mah454: yes, i asked if you did try the ubuntu driver. its already made comfortable with ubuntu so that is the one to use in first place
[18:54] <whoever> neckutrek: ok , so  still did you use a pakage manager to install it
[18:54] <neckutrek> whoever, no, just a .pkg file
[18:54] <mah454> k1l_: this : "fglrx : Depends: fglrx-core but it is not going to be installed"
[18:55] <k1l_> mah454: what if you want to insatll fglrx-core?
[18:55] <whoever> neckutrek: ok, i think this can be done without guest additions , I assumed you wanted to keep the vm around for awhile
[18:55] <neckutrek> whoever, for now I only need this though...
[18:56] <whoever> so under network in windows do you see your host box, then  do you see the share folder
[18:56] <neckutrek> I restarted the vm but the shared folder can't be found under networks...
[18:56] <neckutrek> no host box there
[18:56] <whoever> neckutrek: check your permissions for the share under share folder in vbox setting
[18:57] <whoever> can you ping your native os frm your vm , if so what is the ip, and for that matter, what is the ip of the vm
[18:59] <cryptodan> Bridged or Nat selected in Vbox?
[19:00] <neckutrek> whoever, pingping my native os was successfull
[19:01] <Kuwanger> I had a GPF registered in khub on a usb device disconnect, and I'd like to debug the problem (if I could) by getting a backtrace of the function involved.
[19:01] <Kuwanger> So, how I convert "... [<ffffffffa000fc40>] hid_device_release+0x80/0xf0 [hid]" into a view of the hid_device_release function's source?
[19:02] <whoever> neckutrek: so what are both ips
[19:02] <Peace-> hi is there a way to see hulu.com ?
[19:02] <mah454> k1l_: Ok , I installed fglrx and try this command "aticonfig --initial" receive this message "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[19:02] <Peace-> i get this on hulu.com Hulu requires Flash Player 10.1.53.64 or higher. Please download and install the latest version of Flash Player before continuing.
[19:04] <cryptodan> Peace-: seems like you are using an unupdated system
[19:04] <theadmin> Peace-: Use Chrome.
[19:05] <theadmin> Or, actually, hm.
[19:05] <theadmin> The flashplugin-installer package should provide at least version 11...
[19:05] <Peace-> theadmin: i am using chromiun
[19:05] <bekks> Peace-: Which Ubuntu release do you use?
[19:06] <theadmin> Peace-: Chrome is not Chromium. Chrome has built-in Flash. And it's the only Flash on Linux that's up-to-date.
[19:06] <deathknight_> What does "interfacing a linux computer" mean?
[19:06] <Peace-> bekks: Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[19:06] <Peace-> theadmin: ok
[19:07] <MrAristo> Incredibly Stupid Question: Is there anyway the ability to login to linux after locking the screen would be compromised (disabled) if a significant amount of CPU or RAM resources were being used by the user?
[19:07] <cryptodan> Peace-: I just tried in Firefox and CHrome and Hulu does not give me that message so your system is out of date and I doubt you are using 14.04
[19:07] <Apachez> MrAristo: there have been exploits previously for this
[19:07] <Peace-> cryptodan: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/04/plasma-desktope28232.png
[19:08] <Apachez> like race condititions where the login prompt in the gui would fail
[19:08] <bekks> MrAristo: Why would you loc the screen if system resources are used, instead of being wasted?
[19:08] <Apachez> during a locked screen
[19:08] <theadmin> MrAristo: The screen lock runs gnome-screensaver, basically. Now, if there would be not enough RAM to run that it wouldn't lock. But once it's locked, you're good -- other apps may fail to start but this one will sit there just fine.
[19:08] <theadmin> Is the way I see it at least.
[19:09] <cryptodan> Peace-: take a screenshot of firefox's abbout:addons and with plugins selected then take a screenshot of chromium with chrome://plugins and flashplayer shown
[19:09] <MrAristo> bekks, I forgot about the 60 minute inactivity time-out on the computer, and the screen locked automatically.
[19:11] <bekks> MrAristo: So it is locked now - how does the problem described above arises now?
[19:11] <Peace-> cryptodan: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/04/plasma-desktopP28232.png
[19:12] <theadmin> Peace-: You don't have Flash.
[19:12] <Peace-> mmm
[19:12] <Apachez> theadmin: what if gnome-screensaver gets killed by the kernel?
[19:12] <cryptodan> Peace-: download chrome via www.google.com/chrome and select the 64bit Debian Package
[19:12] <tomreyn> Peace-: that's chromium, not firefox
[19:12] <theadmin> Peace-: Note that Chrome/Chromium have dropped the NPAPI support, so you need to install Flash for Chromium separately now.
[19:12] <theadmin> Peace-: Or just use Chrome.
[19:12] <Peace-> ahhhh
[19:12] <Peace-> downloading chrome
[19:12] <tomreyn> or just use firefox and the flash plugin
[19:13] <Apachez> not really needed
[19:13] <Apachez> pepper flash is included with chrome
[19:13] <MrAristo> bekks, Long story short, I was using the heat exhaust from my computer to heat tea, and ran 'calc 9^9^9' in terminal.  12+hours later it was still running, but after the screen locked (no screensaver) I couldn't log back in.  And no, I wasn't mistyping the password.
[19:13] <Apachez> dunno about chromium
[19:13] <tomreyn> well installing chrome means more proprietary software
[19:13] <theadmin> Apachez: No Flash in Chromium.
[19:13] <theadmin> Apachez: Flash is closed-source software and Chromium is purely open-source.
[19:13] <Apachez> well if you are about to run any propertiary stuff and is not afraid of nsa and shit like that then chrome is probably your best option
[19:14] <Peace-> theadmin: well i compile ffmpeg with every codecs :D
[19:14] <Apachez> other option is to use virtualbox which you load webconverger within
[19:14] <bubbasaures> Apachez, please keep the language clean and drama free.
[19:14] <FanonG> hi there where i can find the mint channel
[19:14] <Apachez> virtualbox is drama in here?
[19:14] <bubbasaures> !mint
[19:15] <theadmin> FanonG: Different network.
[19:15] <cryptodan> Peace-: just install the adobe flash installer and you should be good with firefox and you can see if chromiumflashplugin is availabe to you in your package manager of choice
[19:15] <theadmin> FanonG: irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help - click
[19:15] <MrAristo> bekks, My explanation make sense?
[19:15] <FanonG> ok thanks guys
[19:16] <bekks> MrAristo: Yeah - did you try login in using ssh?
[19:17] <MrAristo> bekks, I did not.  I plan on setting it up on another computer so I can do that, and testing this whole thing again.
[19:17] <bev> hi do any of u know how to fix the black line in firefox text bar on Xubunto
[19:19] <moza> Hello, I am using Rhythmbox for my music listening, and it currently reads one song and then declares the next one as a stream error. It's not something happening if i decide to start the song manually, it only happens in a list. Is this a known bug?
[19:22] <Peace-> cryptodan:  theadmin thank you i was missin  pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[19:22] <blackyboy> I want to do one project web application any ideas ?
[19:22] <Peace-> that is not coming with restricted-extras
[19:22] <cryptodan> Peace-: you are welcome
[19:23] <Peace-> btw that package should be in *ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:23] <raf97> ciao!
[19:23] <cryptodan> Peace-: do you have it enabled?
[19:24] <Peace-> cryptodan: i had that package yes
[19:24] <Peace-> cryptodan: ii  kubuntu-restricted-addons
[19:25] <Peace-> cryptodan: ii  kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:26] <raf97>      ciao!
[19:26] <softballs> Hi all, im trying to compile a old software that uses the "gcc32" command, which i don't have, is that something i can install?
[19:26] <softballs> im running 14.10 32bit ubuntu server
[19:30] <tomreyn> softballs: gcc32 is probably just a substitute for a 32-bit gcc compiler (on a 32-bit platform), which is what you'd have on your 32-bit system (after installing gcc)
[19:31] <tomreyn> so you could edit those references to gcc32 to point to gcc instead.
[19:31] <tomreyn> which software are you trying to build there if you don't mind telling
[19:32] <softballs> tomreyn: ok, ill just switch it out to gcc like normal then, thank you
[19:33] <tomreyn> Peace-: if you still want to make flash work on firefox, please run this in a temrinal and report the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com, then paste the url you end up on here.
[19:33] <jatt> or make a symbolic link from gcc32 to gcc (or better cross compile with the 64bit compiler)
[19:34] <tomreyn> softballs: i think gcc32 is what redhat like distros used (maybe still use) so make sure what you have there isn't actually a redhat source page, since this can be more pain to get to build than working with the original one.
[19:35] <vidas> Hello. I'm having an issue with Tor on ubunut. When I launch it is not able to bind to port 9050. I have nothing running on that port to my knowledge. Is there a way I can see what is using it? Perhaps a cli program or something?
[19:35] <whoever> anyone with experence with crunch wordlist , I am creating a wordlist max 64 using lapha-numeric-symbol14   , should this take hours or minutes
[19:35] <whoever> to complete
[19:36] <tomreyn> vidas: sudo lsof -i:9050
[19:36] <bev> hi do any of u know how to fix the black line in firefox text bar on Xubunto
[19:37] <tomreyn> bev can you upload a screenshot somewhere?
[19:37] <vidas> tomreyn: Thank you. That was awesome. What is lsof? I know the command ls
[19:37] <vidas> tomreyn: What is the -i command?
[19:37] <bubbasaures> bev, Try #firefox   not sure it's a xubuntu issue.
[19:38] <teward> vidas: run `man lsof`
[19:38] <teward> vidas: that will answer what the program does
[19:38] <teward> as well as explain the -i flag
[19:38] <filippo> Hi guys, how many gigabytes of system space does Ubuntu 14.10 require in a fresh install?
[19:38] <tomreyn> vidas: what teward says. for a short summary: ls = list of = open files / file descriptors, -i internet address
[19:39] <vidas> teward: Thanks! It looks like tor is already running on that port. Maybe it launched when I booted. What is the equiv of msconfig so I can see what processes are launching on boot?
[19:39] <LiohAu> I have shared libraries (.so) in /usr/local/lib/ but they are not found by binaries, how do I configure the paths of the shared libraries ?
[19:39] <bev> where would u like me to upload it at
[19:39] <teward> vidas: there's no such utility - but if you want to disable tor edit /etc/default/tor and disable it
[19:39] <Peace-> tomreyn: i guess i have it http://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/04/plasma-desktopk28232.png
[19:40] <tomreyn> bev: i have no preference. anywhere where it's easily viewed without having to enable javascript, confirm stuff etc.
[19:40] <Peace-> btw we are in audio chat from shell with a nice program  encrypted :D
[19:40] <vidas> teward: Oh, so there is no like config file in /etc for Linux that can be used to set processes to launch on boot? I feel like it is strange that tor it's self would have that option in torrc. It seems like something the OS should handle and not individual programs
[19:40] <Peace-> if someone wants came
[19:41] <Peace-> #seren-it voip terminal program for linux :D
[19:41] <tomreyn> bev: imgur.com is an option
[19:42] <tomreyn> Peace-: yes looks like you have flash nistaleld and working in firefox
[19:42] <tomreyn> *installed
[19:43] <cryptodan> Peace-: good way to test flash is going to hulu.com and see if it works there
[19:43] <vidas> tomreyn: I fixed it thanks to you. I just had to sudo pkill tor and then I ran lsof again and it showed that it was free and when I launnched tor again it worked
[19:43] <tomreyn> LiohAu: this often happens when you are trying to use an application which was compiled for a different platform. if you trust the application you are trying to run, use "ldd" on the executable binary file which does not find the libs in the right place. it will show which ones it looks for.
[19:44] <bev> ok http://imgur.com/ObjYVn9
[19:44] <Peace-> tomreyn: woould like test our voip program ?
[19:45] <vidas> How can I remap capslock to control and vice versa?
[19:45] <Peace-> tomreyn: :) http://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/04/plasma-desktopF28232.png
[19:45] <tomreyn> Peace-: thanks for the offer, but i'm not interested at this time.
[19:45] <LiohAu> tomreyn: I know which lib it is looking for, I compiled the executable and the libraries myself, and I know that doing "make install" was enough on raspbian, but on this ubuntu this does not work
[19:45] <Peace-> tomreyn: no problem
[19:45] <Peace-> :D
[19:45] <bubbasaures> bev, posting an image will help, here is a link on a possible issue with hardware acceleration and the url bars color, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/999333  That address bar has a config and the color can be changed there to.
[19:47] <tomreyn> LiohAu: either specify the proper library locations when compiling, compile statically, or create symbolic links to the libs in the directory the library resides in.
[19:47] <torrente> hi
[19:47] <bubbasaures> bev, keep that image handy, I would of thought the whole box was filled, that is different than I have seen.
[19:47] <LiohAu> but why isn't /usr/local/lib a scanned folder?
[19:48] <tomreyn> LiohAu: just in case that's not obvious, if you built this very executable on raspian (running on armel architecture) it will not work on your x86 / x86_64 ubuntu system (if that's what you have there)
[19:49] <LiohAu> no I build it on the current system
[19:49] <TheBlackRussian> I have Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 with 2gb ram. Can i run 64 bit Ubuntu?
[19:50] <TheBlackRussian> i already have ubuntu 32 bit but its a bit slow
[19:50] <bekks> TheBlackRussian: Yes.
[19:50] <bev> ok tk u
[19:50] <bubbasaures> TheBlackRussian, 64 bit wont fix that and use more resources
[19:50] <LiohAu> hm, now that works..
[19:50] <bekks> TheBlackRussian: It is slow because of that 7 year old CPU.
[19:51] <TheBlackRussian> so i should stick to Ubuntu 32 bit?
[19:51] <nichlas> 64bit does not use more resources.
[19:51] <bekks> TheBlackRussian: Using 64bit it not magically speed up your system.
[19:51] <cryptodan> TheBlackRussian: do you plan on upgrading to more ram?
[19:51] <tomreyn> TheBlackRussian: it hardly matters what you run, unless you add more RAM, which you should.
[19:51] <bubbasaures> TheBlackRussian, You might try a lighter desktop
[19:51] <bekks> s/it/will/
[19:51] <teward> TheBlackRussian: your older processor is one of the problems - 2GB RAM is also another problem.  I'd suggest trying Xubuntu or Lubuntu - it'll help a bit
[19:51] <cryptodan> TheBlackRussian: try Xubuntu
[19:52] <TheBlackRussian> well, i wont be using my computer for the next 9 months... does that matter?
[19:52] <tomreyn> you're installing a computer which yo are not going to use for the next 9 months?
[19:53] <TheBlackRussian> yes
[19:53] <tomreyn> this doesn't really matter regarding whether you should choose 32 or 64 bit
[19:54] <tomreyn> it might be a better idea to wait those 9 months and install it then, but that's an entirely different aspect.
[19:54] <TheBlackRussian> fair enough, back to the point... should i stick on Ubuntu 14 32 bit
[19:54] <cryptodan> TheBlackRussian: On your machine I would stick to Ubuntu 12.04 as its older and may support more of your hardware
[19:54] <Seven_Six_Two> TheBlackRussian, You should be using 64 bit
[19:55] <Seven_Six_Two> ??
[19:55] <Seven_Six_Two> oh sorry. I misread.
[19:55] <TheBlackRussian> okay, now im being told to use 64 bit
[19:55] <tomreyn> TheBlackRussian: if you have a working installation of an x86 32 bit ubuntu now, i'd just keep it.
[19:55] <thegrid> Hello, I am getting security.debian.org can not be resolved during and apt-get install
[19:56] <TheBlackRussian> okay, and one for thing can i move the taskbar to the button?
[19:56] <tomreyn> TheBlackRussian: there can be conflicting opinions here, we're (almost) all speaking for ourselves, this is not official support.
[19:57] <tomreyn> thegrid: you seem to be lacking a word before "and" there
[19:57] <TheBlackRussian> so asking if i could move my taskbar to the buttom is not support however asking if i could install 64 bit is support?
[19:58] <tomreyn> TheBlackRussian: i'm just saying if you want an official statement by canonical on how to do stuff then this is not the place.
[19:58] <thegrid> tomreyn: yes
[19:59] <thegrid> tomreyn: "Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
[19:59] <tomreyn> thegrid: maybe you meant to write "an", not "and"?
[20:00] <tomreyn> thegrid: this message suggests that your dns lookups fail
[20:00] <thegrid> let me post the ful line
[20:00] <FanonG> hi all where is the linuxmint channel
[20:00] <cfhowlett> !mint | FanonG
[20:00] <tomreyn> usually that's the case when you lack internet access, your resolver is not configured or is configured incorrectly.
[20:01] <thegrid> tomreyn: yeah, its a problem. got any suggestions?
[20:02] <FanonG> how to enter here irc.spotchat.org
[20:02] <tomreyn> thegrid: please run "sudo apt-get update" and post the output to a pastebin, then copy and paste the internet address you ended up on after pasting here
[20:02] <bubbasaures> FanonG, The link will open in an irc app
[20:03] <FanonG> ok
[20:05] <tomreyn> FanonG: press ctrl-t and type: /server irc.spotchat.org
[20:05] <bubbasaures> FanonG, You made hope that helps. ;)
[20:05] <bubbasaures> made it*
[20:07] <thegrid> tomreyn: the error message pastebin.com/gwfmJfq5
[20:08] <thegrid> also it had trouble finding pastebin, i found by using iceweasel search bar, strange
[20:08] <HaCkErZ> hi friends im a new ubuntu user
[20:08] <HaCkErZ> some tips plz
[20:08] <bekks> HaCkErZ: Tips on what?
[20:08] <cfhowlett> HaCkErZ, 1.  decide what exactly you want to do.
[20:09] <jm511> Hi guys
[20:09] <HaCkErZ> jus some kool apps
[20:09] <HaCkErZ> any one on facebook
[20:09] <jm511> I have question about BB4 ?
[20:10] <nichlas> HaCkErZ: libreoffice is pretty cool
[20:10] <bekks> jm511: Whats "BB4"?
[20:10] <cfhowlett> !ot | HaCkErZ,
[20:10] <jm511> backbox4
[20:10] <revo>  hi all . . .how can i get round this message “Windows cannot be installed to this disk. The selected disk is not of the GPT partition style” trying to install windows 8 on 2nd partition on my disk
[20:10] <bekks> jm511: What is that?
[20:10] <jm511> on Terminal
[20:10] <jm511> i can't use " CTRL + V
[20:10] <cfhowlett> jm511, not ubuntu so not supported here
[20:10] <HaCkErZ> kool guys later
[20:11] <jm511> to paste  or copy ;(
[20:11] <bubbasaures> revo, windows issue ##windows
[20:11] <jm511> hahaha man old one is perfect
[20:11] <jm511> backbox 3
[20:11] <revo> bubbasaures,  ok thx
[20:11] <FanonG> use CTRL + V + SHIFT
[20:11] <jm511> FanonG
[20:11] <jm511> I love u man
[20:11] <jm511> :) it's work
[20:11] <jm511> hhhhhhh Thank u
[20:11] <FanonG> no problem
[20:12] <jm511> FanonG
[20:12] <tomreyn> thegrid: thanks for the paste. btw. there is a pastebin URL in the channel topic
[20:12] <FanonG> ;)
[20:12] <jm511> can i just use CTRL + V ? withour SHIFT?
[20:12] <FanonG> yes jm511
[20:12] <cfhowlett> jm511, try
[20:12] <jm511> I try 4949494times guys
[20:12] <jm511> on Terminal i mean
[20:12] <tomreyn> thegrid: what you pasted is just the error message, not the (entire) output of the command i asked you to post
[20:13] <cfhowlett> jm511, so the answer is ... ?
[20:13] <FanonG> in terminal no you can't
[20:13] <tomreyn> thegrid: when you post command output, always include the command you ran (on top), too
[20:13] <jm511> GanonG + cthowlett tnx
[20:13] <jm511> FanonG *
[20:14] <Nice_hell> ciao belli
[20:14] <cfhowlett> !it | Nice_hell,
[20:14] <nichlas> jm511: CTRL + SHIFT + <letter> are used to control the terminal, instead of the stuff running in terminal.
[20:15] <Nice_hell> !list
[20:15] <jm511> yp nichlas , i got it
[20:15] <jm511> tnx alot
[20:15] <jm511> so anyone in twitter , keep in touch www.twitter.com/JM511
[20:16] <jm511> bye
[20:16] <seizo> is there a way to list network devices (by name preferably) in terminal?
[20:17] <thegrid> what the heck tomreyn : it worked without any  fix
[20:17] <EriC^^> seizo: ifconfig -a, maybe
[20:17] <FanonG> how to connect to irc.spotchat.org with xchat
[20:17] <EriC^^> FanonG: /server irc.sportchat.org
[20:17] <theadmin> FanonG: Just click on the link you just posted.
[20:18] <theadmin> FanonG: Double-click on irc.spotchat.org
[20:18] <tomreyn> thegrid: name resolution failing can be a temporary issue
[20:18] <EriC^^> *spotchat
[20:18] <theadmin> Oh, it just opens it in Chrome. Well that's dumb.
[20:18] <theadmin> FanonG: Never mind, just do what EriC^^ said
[20:18] <FanonG> it's not working
[20:18] <tomreyn> thegrid: you should consider setting a different nameserver in your network configuration or on your router, though
[20:18] <tomreyn> since it should not ever fail.
[20:19] <EriC^^> FanonG: /server irc.spotchat.org
[20:19] <EriC^^> had a typo there
 FanonG: press ctrl-t and type: /server irc.spotchat.org
[20:19] <tomreyn> and consider switching to hexchat, it's better than xchat (which you are running now)
[20:20] <FanonG> ahhh ok thank you all]
[20:20] <seizo> EricC^^: i'm looking for something that will show the things normally shown under 'network' in a file browser like nautilus, specifically a windows machine
[20:21] <tomreyn> seizo: lspci | grep -i net
[20:21] <tomreyn> oh wait that's not what you want
[20:22] <Nice_hell> !list
[20:22] <Nice_hell> list
[20:22] <thegrid> tomreyn: its working by a mystery now
[20:24] <tomreyn> Nice_hell: do you need help?
[20:24] <tomreyn> thegrid: you should still check it since it can happen again
[20:24] <tomreyn> thegrid: if you are occasionally having trouble accessing web sites you know exist, this would be the same cause
[20:25] <seizo> towreyn: yeah that just lists my controller x.x, so far i've found nmap might do it, but seems like there should be something easier
[20:26] <tomreyn> seizo: your controller? so your network interface cards? then the command i provided was correct
[20:26] <Smokey> Does anyone know why  Ubuntu 14.10  Would not give me the install along side of windows  on my Desktop PC?    The only option I am getting is to Erase and Install?
[20:26] <tomreyn> seizo: but that's not what you'd see in the "networks" list in nautilus
[20:26] <tomreyn> that'd rather be something like "gvfs-ls network://"
[20:27] <tomreyn> seizo: nmap would not list NICs, though
[20:27] <seizo> towreyn: excellent, thats what I needed. thanks
[20:28] <tomreyn> welcome :)
[20:28] <tomreyn> Smokey: i think it will not offer this installation alongside windows if insufficient space is available
[20:29] <tomreyn> that is insufficient unpartitioned space
[20:29] <ahop> Hi! Can I run Ubuntu 14.04 "Server" from a Live CD / USB ?  like the Dekstop verison?
[20:29] <tomreyn> i.e. if your windows installtion is already set to occupy the entire disk space you have available then it will likely not work.
[20:30] <daftykins> ahop: can't
[20:30] <daftykins> ahop: pretty sure you've been told this for days now :)
[20:30] <tomreyn> ahop: no, but you could install it on the usb key and boot from there instead of the HDD.
[20:30] <danielle31> Hello all. What's the easiest way, in ubuntu, to switch together multiple images into a larger one? I've asked teh internets but all I can find is autostitching for panoramas. I don't want to do that; I just want an easy way to align 4 images along two axis into an image with the same aspect ratio as the originals.
[20:31] <tomreyn> ahop: alternatively you could start it as a desktop and sop some services. but that's not the same, the kernel will differ.
[20:31] <tomreyn> *stop
[20:31] <ahop> daftykins: no no I had asked something else, and I have succesffully installed Ubuntu Server, but here it's for another purpose on another machine :)
[20:31] <todd__> quit
[20:32] <tomreyn> danielle31: i'm not sure it's the easiest way but it should be fairly easy using the gimp
[20:32] <ahop> I can't find a good solution for wiping a disk...
[20:32] <danielle31> using a GUI or non-automated process sounds faffy when you have several to do. I had considered the gimp, but that and libreoffice draw both seem too heavy-weight for my needs. Perhaps there's a way of doing it simply in the terminal..? :-)
[20:33] <ahop> dd if=/dev/zero (or random)   of=/dev/sdb bs=1M works,   but no progress bar :(
[20:33] <ahop> then I tried the trick with sudo dd if = ... | pv | sudo dd of = ...
[20:33] <ahop> but it's slower...
[20:33] <theadmin> ahop: killall -SIGUSR1 dd
[20:33] <theadmin> ahop: That will make dd output current progress
[20:33] <Nice_hell> Hi
[20:33] <Nice_hell> !list
[20:34] <ahop> theadmin: won't this kill all dd process ??
[20:34] <theadmin> ahop: Nope.
[20:34] <streulma> who has used Broadcom BCM43142 wifi? Sometimes the signal is not good while on Windows it is OK. Should I install bcmwl-kernel-source 248 ? is it better?
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> ahop: different signals do different things, USR1 has dd do that.
[20:34] <ahop> theadmin: why the name killall ? ;)
[20:34] <daftykins> !broadcom
[20:34] <theadmin> ahop: "kill" and "killall" are used to send signals to processes. Those signals, apart from KILL and SEGV, may or may not cause the processes to exit.
[20:34] <theadmin> It defaults to TERM, which normally causes the process to finish up whatever it's doing and exit.
[20:35] <theadmin> But other signals may have different meanings. The USR signals, in particular, can do any action whatsoever
[20:35] <Volney> list
[20:35] <theadmin> Depends on the app
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> ahop: so you're right to be careful of which one you send.
[20:36] <Nice_hell> hi
[20:36] <Nice_hell> !list
[20:36] <daftykins> Nice_hell: stop doing that and leave.
[20:38] <ahop> theadmin thanks it works with killall -SIGUSR1 dd !
[20:38] <Bashing-om> ahop: see man dd ; for an explanation how/why to see a progress status .
[20:38] <ahop> Bashing-om I can't see an easy option directly in dd to show progress status every second
[20:39] <tomreyn> ahop: by the way, zeroing is not wiping
[20:39] <SchrodingersScat> ahop: you can loop the command, while sleep 1 ; do killall -SIGUSR1 dd ; done
[20:39] <tomreyn> if you are trying to prevent data recovery, then zeroing can be (and likely is) insufficient, depending on your threat model.
[20:39] <ahop> I see the USR1 trick, but nothing ready like   dd --progress  that would show directly the status every second ... feature request for dd ;)
[20:40] <daftykins> tomreyn: that seems doubtful
[20:40] <daftykins> if we're talking mechanical HDD
[20:40] <SchrodingersScat> hmm, while killall -SIGUSR1 dd ; do sleep 1 ; done # is better
[20:40] <tomreyn> daftykins: why?
[20:41] <ahop> tomreyn: I just want to sell my old 2.5"  500GB hard disk... the risk of some very very skiller ingeneer who would be able to open the disk and recover the data "under the zeros" is 0.000000000000000001 %
[20:41] <Bashing-om> ahop: I know of no automated way .. from that other started terminal the command will give you an updatd status.
[20:42] <tomreyn> ahop: some data can be very easy to restore with software. but i guess you're adversary there is not very skilled so it can be sufficient. i'd rather use the wipe or shred commands, though.
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> pipe a random into it?
[20:42] <tomreyn> (surely this will take a lot longer)
[20:42] <Ben64> dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero | pv | sudo dd bs=1M of=/dev/<drive>
[20:42] <jhutchins> ahop: There's a bootable image called Dan's boot 'n' nuke which will do DOD grade erasure.  It'll give you time/progress estimates, but the basic scenario is to launch it and come back tomorrow.
[20:42] <daftykins> i'd like to see you get data back from a zero'd HDD
[20:42] <tomreyn> SchrodingersScat: works, too, if you have enough entropy
[20:43] <jhutchins> ahop: It'll also do lighter grade erasure.
[20:43] <Ben64> zero is the best and fastest, nobody will ever get the data from it, ever
[20:43] <Ben64> and if you use my command above, you get live stats from dd :)
[20:43] <ahop> tomreyn: I don't think there are easy to use tools that can recover data after a wipe with zero... I think the solutions exist but there are electronical (needs opening the disk) rather than software
[20:43] <EriC^^> ahop: you can do watch -n <secs> killall -USR1 dd
[20:44] <EriC^^> it'll show it every secs
[20:44] <ahop> Already tried Dan's tool but then my computer is used for 3 hours and I cannot use it :
[20:44] <ahop> :)
[20:44] <daftykins> i used to run "watch -n 60 'kill -USR1 $PID_of_dd' "
[20:45] <bekks> You could just use dd_rescue, which has a lot of advantages compared to dd - and a progress indicator.
[20:45] <ahop> daftykins oh thanks, this would work :)
[20:45] <EriC^^> ahop: watch -n <secs> killall -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd) , probably better :D
[20:46] <EriC^^> *kill
[20:46] <tomreyn> ahop: try to also do a "hdparm --security-erase" at least
[20:46] <ahop> btw, something else :   "killall  -USR1"   is a very bad name
[20:46] <SwashBuckla> !ffmpeg
[20:46] <ahop> for sending signals
[20:46] <SwashBuckla> how do you install ffmpeg with apt-get Ubuntu repositories?
[20:46] <ahop> in terms of "better implicit than explicit"
[20:46] <Ben64> SwashBuckla: its "avconv" now
[20:47] <ahop> naming "killall" a tool that can send lots of signals (and not only kill signals) is bad, don't you think so ?
[20:47] <SwashBuckla> Ben64: unable to locate package aconv
[20:47] <cfhowlett> SwashBuckla, libavtools
[20:47] <ahop> on't you think so daftykins ?
[20:47] <Ben64> SwashBuckla: read again
[20:47] <SwashBuckla> Ben64: read what again?
[20:47] <SwashBuckla> Ben64: 20:46 < Ben64> SwashBuckla: its "avconv" now?
[20:47] <Ben64> SwashBuckla: what i said
[20:48] <cfhowlett> SwashBuckla, avconv is in libavtools
[20:48]  * SwashBuckla reads
 Ben64: unable to locate package aconv
[20:48] <Ben64> aconv is not avconv
[20:48] <SwashBuckla> ah
[20:48] <Nice_hell> hi
[20:48] <Nice_hell> !list
[20:48] <cfhowlett> SwashBuckla, sorry libav-tools
[20:49] <SwashBuckla> maybe create a !ubottu thing for ffmpeg -> libav-tools
[20:49] <theadmin> Nice_hell: This is the third time you do this. THIS IS NOT A WAREZ CHANNEL. Please ask Ubuntu questions or leave.
[20:49] <theadmin> SwashBuckla: Meh no need. FFMpeg is coming back to Ubuntu in the next release.
[20:49] <SwashBuckla> I see
[20:49] <SwashBuckla> makes perfect sence
[20:49] <SwashBuckla> sense*
[20:50] <Ben64> theadmin: it is?
[20:50] <theadmin> Ben64: I heard so, yes. http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/ffmpeg
[20:50] <cfhowlett> Ben64, there's talk that the fork will be ... de-forked and the projects merged
[20:50] <Ben64> interesting
[20:51] <theadmin> cfhowlett: De-forked? Spooned?
[20:51] <cfhowlett> theadmin, :)
[20:52] <ahop> from Ubuntu Server, how to create a usb stick bootable of Ubuntu Desktop ISO  (CLI) ?
[20:52] <cfhowlett> ahop, dd command
[20:52] <zr0> ahop: use mkusb
[20:53] <Apachez> and get the img.gz and not iso for dd into usbdrive
[20:53] <theadmin> ahop: sudo dd if=/path/to/your/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb
[20:53] <theadmin> Apachez: Ubuntu ISOs can be ddd.
[20:53] <ahop> cfhowlett and theadmin: i tried, but the usb stick was non bootable if I just dd
[20:53] <zr0> ahop: and be very sure that /dev/sdb is your usb stick
[20:53] <daftykins> i would add bs=2M to theadmin's dd example
[20:53] <theadmin> ahop: It should be. Are you sure you dd to the whole drive and not to a partition?
[20:54] <daftykins> ahop: you probably chose the wrong device, or used a partition e.g. sdb1 instead of the disk device, sdb
[20:54] <Apachez> theadmin: ahh nice, have seen issues previously
[20:54] <ahop> daftykins: does writing on /dev/sdb  instead of /dev/sdb1 also writes the MBR ?
[20:54] <daftykins> yes
[20:54] <SwashBuckla> to de-fork or not to de-fork
[20:54] <ahop> I never understood if /dev/sdb is the WHOLE think, MBR included?
[20:54] <theadmin> ahop: Yes.
[20:54] <zr0> so i just installed ubuntu server and the console is only a portion of the display -- how do i get the Console to use the entire display. inteldrmfb is the driver
[20:55] <SwashBuckla> anyhow, thanks Ben64, thanks theadmin, cfhowlett
[20:55] <cfhowlett> SwashBuckla, happy2help!
[20:55] <daftykins> ahop: it's pretty simple, the main device writes to every bit available on the disk, whereas the partition cannot be
[20:55] <ahop> daftykins so the MBR is nothing special (hidden space outside of the disk, but included in the harddisk's ROM?), it's just the first bits of the disk ?
[20:56] <daftykins> you need to go and do some research about the MBR :)
[20:56] <ahop> daftykins I did lots of time in the past since I used Windows 3.11 for Workgroups :)
[20:56] <ahop> but I always forget about this , I don't know why lol
[20:57] <daftykins> but you're still asking, so obviously not enough
[20:57] <daftykins> making notes is the best way to avoid forgetting things
[20:57] <ahop> true :)
[20:57] <Nice_hell> !list
[20:57] <ahop> just out of curiosity, where do you note such things daftykins ? I tend to loose my notes lol
[20:57] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[20:57] <ahop> (where do you store? paper? computer file?)
[20:57] <ahop> lol ;)
[20:58] <ahop> that's a *real* question :)
[20:58] <cfhowlett> !ops | nice_hell multiple warez/list requests
[20:59] <Bashing-om> ahop: IF you keep your 'notes' as a file on your system, then your 'notes' become "searchable". What a thought .
[21:01] <David1965> I have been trying to get bigmul to work but without success but have decided to get rid of FOUR1(long double[],long double[],int,int)
[21:01] <ahop> Bashing-om I have hundreds of files of notes in various subjects
[21:02] <ahop> but having a good classification of personal notes is a real problem
[21:02] <bekks> ahop: I just use Evernote.
[21:03] <Bashing-om> ahop: Granted, I run a relational database to keep track of file names/contents.
[21:03] <daftykins> David1965: looks more like a developer question than an OS question
[21:03] <hanshenrik> how can i drop to a shell from login screen?
[21:03] <David1965> Cryptodan_Android you there
[21:03] <daftykins> hanshenrik: why? ctrl+alt+F1, login, "sudo service lightdm stop" would stop X
[21:04] <David1965> as I wanted to use as part of random number generator
[21:04] <teward> hanshenrik: from GUI logon screen - ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 or f3...
[21:04] <teward> hanshenrik: you can also disable lightdm's startup procedures too if you always want to drop to a shell by default
[21:04] <hanshenrik> thanks
[21:04] <David1965> don't stop XServer otherwise you will be staring as a blank screen
[21:05] <daftykins> David1965: that's rubbish.
[21:05] <hanshenrik> i wanted to use cute asian girl for cuddels
[21:06] <daftykins> that's inappropriate
[21:06] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | hanshenrik, stop. immediately..
[21:06] <steffenp> I need help setting up me touchscreen on my Asus.  Can anyone help?
[21:06] <UbuN2> gotta Love ubuntu :)
[21:07] <steffenp> yup i just installed 14.04 and love it but the touchscreen is the only thing that will not work
[21:08] <David1965> you will be dumped back to terminal I should know that as I tried to install  Knoppix using knx-hdinstall as I didn't have XServer it would not install
[21:08] <daftykins> David1965: that's still rubbish, please stop spreading FUD.
[21:08] <khaya> my ubuntu startup is slow what can I do? 14.04 4GB Ram
[21:09] <David1965> have you ever tried to install Knoppix
[21:09] <daftykins> !ot | David1965
[21:09] <k1l_> David1965: we are in the ubuntu support channel. so what is your ubuntu issue there?
[21:10] <David1965> alright that was until I discovered UBUNTU Linux
[21:10] <steffenp> Are you running just Ubuntu or you running two OS
[21:10] <k1l_> David1965: and the user asked to get to a tty, that was answered. your answer was not right.
[21:10] <khaya> just ubunu
[21:11] <k1l_> khaya: what means slow?
[21:11] <steffenp> have you updated?
[21:11] <David1965> well I have since ditched UBUNTU for Linux Mint 17 MATE (Qiana) 64bit built upon UBUNTU 14.04
[21:12] <cfhowlett> !mint | David1965, mint aint' ubuntu.
[21:12] <k1l_> David1965: this is not the chitchat channel. please focus on actual technical ubuntu support
[21:12] <daftykins> steffenp: please use nicknames so we know who you're talking to
[21:12] <khaya> i wait too long before I get to the login screen, it was not like this at first
[21:13] <k1l_> khaya: 1second? 10 seconds? 2 minutes? 10 minutes? what was it first? what is it now? do you see something? do you get errors?
[21:13] <daftykins> khaya: were you in here yesterday with the same question? run "dmesg > ~/file" then "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit ~/file" and share the link
[21:13] <Cobalt> Hello. Does anyone know what ibus-ui-gtk3 is?
[21:13] <daftykins> !info ibus-ui-gtk3
[21:13] <David1965> actually is based on Trusty
[21:14] <khaya> no I was not here.
[21:14] <daftykins> David1965: still not supported in here, believe me you're not the first to try. please go to the indicating network + channel to talk about Mint. it is OFF topic here.
[21:14] <daftykins> *indicated
[21:15] <cfhowlett> !flavors | David1965, these are the *only* official ubuntu flavors.  Notice that mint is not on the list.  not supported here.
[21:15] <Cobalt> daftykins: At any rate, the reason I ask is that it creates a small window at logon, the size of an underscore, which lives randomly on the screen somewhere, and stays there the whole time unless you kill it.
[21:15] <khaya> It's like 5 minutes wait now
[21:15] <jeroth> My audio is only coming out one side of my headphones. I checked to make sure they work on another device, I checked to make sure the balance was set properly in ubuntu. I checked another pair of headphones. Any one else have this issue? (Ubuntu 14.01)
[21:16] <steffenp> I have tryed many things to try to get my Asus laptop touch screen to work but nothing works.  Anyone got a idea?
[21:16] <daftykins> Cobalt: no idea
[21:16] <k1l_> khaya: please pastebin the output of "dmesg" in a pastebin
[21:17] <steffenp>  I have tried many things to try to get my Asus laptop touch screen to work but nothing works.  Anyone got a idea?
[21:17] <cfhowlett> !patience | steffenp
[21:18] <agough> Evening all, can anyone tell me the difference between 14.04.1 and 14.04.5? I can't find the changelog anywhere.
[21:19] <daftykins> there's no such thing as 14.04.5
[21:19] <daftykins> i think you mean 12.04.5
[21:19] <cfhowlett> agough, sure.  for one thing .... there is not 14.04.5
[21:19] <k1l_> agough: there is no 14.04.5 so far.
[21:19] <teward> agough: no such thing for 14.04.5.  Do you mean the difference between 12.04.5 and 14.04.1?
[21:19] <k1l_> !dotreleases
[21:20] <agough> Oh my word, I'm and idiot and can't read numbers. Thanks guys! :-D
[21:23] <ahop> Have you been able to use Ubuntu Server in VirtualBox  with SharedFolders?
[21:23] <ahop> I have found this but only with GUI... : http://askubuntu.com/questions/366742/how-to-share-the-files-from-host-to-guest-in-virtual-box-host-ubunutu-guest-ubu
[21:23] <daftykins> why bother? just use SCP
[21:23] <ahop> SCP ?
[21:24] <daftykins> !scp
[21:24] <daftykins> or make a samba share
[21:25] <theadmin> ahop: To mount a virtualbox shared folder from a command line, do: mount -t vboxsf SHARED_FOLDER_NAME MOUNT_LOCATION
[21:25] <ahop> theadmin do I need to have VBOX HOST extension installed?  if so, is there specific verison for Ub server?
[21:26] <theadmin> ahop: No, you can just do "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms"
[21:26] <theadmin> ahop: That will give you the Virtualbox guest additions.
[21:26] <ahop> thanks!
[21:29] <pip__> someone keeps saying that if I check "install 3rd party software" during an Ubuntu install it installs proprietary video drivers.  This has NEVER happened on any of my installs & I'd like to know if it is the case or not
[21:29] <pip__> yes, I always tick the box
[21:30] <pip__> by the way
[21:30] <theadmin> pip__: Nah. It installs Flash and stuff.
[21:30] <theadmin> pip__: MP3 codecs, so on. But not video drivers.
[21:31] <pip__> that's what I thought, thanks for that
[21:31] <theadmin> Proprietary video drivers are broken quite often, you wouldn't want the system to be ded right after you finish installing it
[21:31] <pip__> it's really beginning to annoy me :)
[21:32] <pip__> yeah, I just think he should know better
[21:32] <pip__> & stop saying it.....
[21:32] <mbff> I am running Ubuntu 14.04, when I open a file from a program besides nautilus (Chrome downloads for example), nautilus will just wiggle and not switch to the window
[21:32] <pip__> good grief, how petty am I
[21:32] <mbff> Why?
[21:33] <pip__> thanks people
[21:33] <theadmin> mbff: Ubuntu has strong focus-stealing prevention. Meaning that windows will only switch if you switch to them yourself.
[21:33] <mbff> can I change this?
[21:33] <theadmin> It's a bit annoying sometimes but I think it's a rather good philosophy in general.
[21:33] <theadmin> mbff: I think you can using CompizConfig.
[21:33] <alias_neo> Anybody help me with PXEbooting ubuntu please? I'm mostly set up but I'm not sure the menu APPEND option I need to point the client at the correct server dir for the files it needs. It loads kernel and initrd ok, but I don't know how to tell it where to go to http://192.168.0.x/pxe.gif/ubuntu14.10 (contains the contents of the iso)
[21:37] <hakim> so if i open up Gmail in chrome browser and want to attach a picture to an email. HOw do i zoom in on the thumbnail in the file explorer to see which image i am selecting without having to scroll through Every single picture??
[21:39] <OerHeks> hakim, ctrl + mousewheel
[21:39] <rosaecaeruleae> how do I blank the screen on demand?
[21:39] <EriC^^> rosaecaeruleae: blanl?
[21:39] <EriC^^> blank the screen?
[21:40] <guntbert> rosaecaeruleae: <ctrl><alt>L
[21:40] <k1l_> rosaecaeruleae: log out?
[21:40] <EriC^^> you can lock it with ctrl+alt+L
[21:40] <rosaecaeruleae> not log out, just blank
[21:40] <rosaecaeruleae> ctrl alt l does nothing here
[21:40] <EriC^^> you can lock it with that shortcut, if you have anything else in mind you can turn the screen off with a terminal command
[21:40] <EriC^^> rosaecaeruleae: try super+l
[21:41] <rosaecaeruleae> nothing
[21:41] <EriC^^> rosaecaeruleae: are you using unity?
[21:41] <rosaecaeruleae> x
[21:41] <rosaecaeruleae> xfce
[21:41] <EriC^^> ok check the shortcuts
[21:42] <rosaecaeruleae> where
[21:42] <EriC^^> menu > preferences > keyboard shortcuts ( or something similar )
[21:43] <xfce> herro
[21:43] <hakim> Oerheks: it doesnt work
[21:43] <EriC^^> xfce: pop quiz, how do you lock the screen in xfce?
[21:43] <EriC^^> 10secs remaining ..
[21:43] <xfce> what lol
[21:43] <EriC^^> j/k :)
[21:44] <xfce> umm im sure everyone tht has xfce kows how
[21:44] <hakim> that only works when i open up the file manager from unity. but when the browser opens the file manager it lacks the zoom feature. Anyway to fix that?
[21:44] <EriC^^> xfce: yeah somebody was just asking how and we dont know as we dont use it
[21:44] <xfce> lol ok then....
[21:45] <k1l_> hakim: what desktop are you running and what filemanager?
[21:46] <hakim> 14.04 whatever it came with.. fresh install @k1l_
[21:46] <k1l_> hakim: so unity and nautilus, which is standard
[21:46] <hakim> yes
[21:46] <xfce> damn upgrade to 14.10 its better
[21:47] <k1l_> xfce: no. its not a reason to upgrade from a LTS to a non lts because "its better"
[21:47] <hakim> lots of pics on an SD card.. long list and the thumbs are very small when opened via the Gmail web app
[21:47] <xfce> so what lol
[21:47] <k1l_> hakim: hmm, iirc the browser can launch its own window for that
[21:47] <hakim> it does
[21:48] <hakim> but it lacks the feature to make thumbnails bigger
[21:48] <hakim> trying ti find a way around this
[21:48] <alias_neo> Anyone that can help me with pxe boot please?
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[21:49] <teward> FuruDora: do you have a support question?
[21:49] <xfce> linux beats microsoft by a long shot
[21:50] <teward> FuruDora: xfce: Non-support discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[21:50] <hakim> xfce: i prefer linux but MS is easier for somethings
[21:50] <xfce> well yea somethings but not everything
[21:51] <xfce> i pefer linux over ms
[21:51] <hakim> mainly driver support
[21:51] <teward> guys, take the non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic - that's where non-support discussions should be
[21:51] <hakim> keeping my printer working on ubuntu is a PITA
[21:51] <hakim> ok ok
[21:52] <hakim> anyway... So how can i get larger thumbnails when attaching pics via Gmail in chrome.. Not very ideal to scroll through a very long list of pics and select each one for a preview
[21:53] <EriC^^> hakim: OerHeks told you earlier, ctrl+mouse wheel
[21:53] <xangua> just open your file browser and drag them¿
[21:53] <k1l_> xfce: we have #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat. this is support only
[21:53] <hakim> Eric^^: it doesnt work
[21:53] <hakim> that only works when you open a file manager from the desktop
[21:54] <xfce> kil_ whats the channel bout
[21:54] <EriC^^> oh ok didn't see that
[21:54] <k1l_> !ot | xfce
[21:54] <xfce> is it somewhat like ##chat
[21:57] <TheHighestFive> Hey guys, I'm having bluetooth problems. I have a dongle that is both paired and connected to my onkyo receiver, but the only options in my sound settings are the laptops' speakers. Anyone know how to fix this? How to make it recognize the bluetooth?
[21:58] <l0rdn1x> TheHighestFive, I have been having bluetooth issues also, it explodes my dmesg with tons of errors.
[22:03] <nf> Hey, I'm thinking about switching from Arch to Ubuntu because it apparently requires a lot less maintenance to use on a day to day basis? I don't know much else about it, am I on the right track?
[22:03] <cfhowlett> nf, make a bootable USB, test it for yourself
[22:03] <TheHighestFive> l0rd1x, so there's no fix? Just have to keep using the AUX wire?
[22:04] <nf> cfhowlett: Ok, what version should I go for, 14.04 or 14.10?
[22:04] <cfhowlett> nf, personally I only use LTS ... YMMV
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[22:05] <k1l_> nf:  do you want to upgrade all 6 months?
[22:05] <nf> k1l_: Is it every 6 months that a new one comes out? That sounds very unappealing.
[22:05] <TheHighestFive> So...nothing on the bluetooth front?
[22:06] <xangua> nf: LTS releases comes out every 2 years but you'll have to stick to the same software versions + security updates
[22:06] <theadmin> nf: There are LTS releases which tend to be more stable and come out every 2 years.
[22:06] <EriC^^> ^^ they are supposed for 5 years though
[22:06] <k1l_> nf: yes. LTS versions got 5 years support and you can upgrade  from 14.04 to 16.04 then. if you install 14.10 you need to upgrade to 15.04, 15.10 and 16.04 at least 3 months after they are released
[22:06] <EriC^^> *supported
[22:06] <theadmin> nf: I recommend you stay with those. However, if you want to be on the "bleeding edge", then yes, there's a new release every six months.
[22:07] <EriC^^> nf: not that unappealing, considering arch has a 300mb update every week
[22:07] <nf> Hmmm. Ok, the LTS is probably the better bet. How arduous is the upgrade going to be? Will it disrupt my whole day when it comes around every few years or is it more of an hour sort of thing?
[22:07] <EriC^^> it's basically as upgrading ubuntu every 6months
[22:07] <EriC^^> lts is recommended though
[22:08] <theadmin> nf: An upgrade from one release to another may take a long time, but you can use your system while it's being done so eh.
[22:08] <nf> Oh I didn't know that
[22:08] <k1l_> nf: upgrades are automated tested. if you dont leave the ubunut way too much that should work. most times its 1-2 hours depending on connection speed and system speed
[22:08] <nf> that's neat
[22:08] <TheHighestFive> Hey guys, I'm having bluetooth problems. I have a dongle that is both paired and connected to my onkyo receiver, but the only options in my sound settings are the laptops' speakers. Anyone know how to fix this? How to make it recognize the bluetooth?
[22:08] <theadmin> nf: Also, Ubuntu makes LTS -> LTS upgrades possible. So if you hamster 14.04 now, you will be able to upgrade to 16.04 when that's out.
[22:09] <nf> ok this all sounds good
[22:09] <nf> one more question, I'm reading that a bunch of people use GNOME and Ubuntu... Is that going to be a transplanted experience or is it well supported?
[22:09] <theadmin> nf: You should also know that there's nothing quite like the AUR in Ubuntu. Instead, there are PPA's.
[22:10] <theadmin> nf: There's an official version of Ubuntu with GNOME: http://ubuntugnome.org
[22:10] <k1l_> nf: the special gnome flavour is more vanilla gnome
[22:10] <nf> theadmin: Yeah I do know that, the AUR is pretty much a one of a kind and the best thing about Arch Linux. But the daily manual upgrades and careful double checking after a year is weighing me down. I've been using OSX for the last 2 weeks and it just seems like such a chore now going back to Arch, though it is an excellent OS
[22:11] <theadmin> nf: There's also Ubuntu Mate, Xubuntu (Xfce), Kubuntu (KDE), Lubuntu (LXDE).
[22:11] <bubbasaures>  nf:
[22:11] <bubbasaures> and it's all free are you sold yet
[22:11] <nf> yes I'm sold, I'll probably go for the regular LTS Ubuntu before I try any of the alts
[22:12] <k1l_> nf: for stuff that is not in the official ubuntu repos ubuntu got PPAs. but keep in mind that the PPA maintainer is responsible for that packages then
[22:12] <theadmin> nf: Is a good choice. Unity may feel a bit weird coming from another desktop, but it's nice nevertheless.
[22:13] <nf> thanks for all the information
[22:13] <nf> it's hard to believe that this is a channel full of Linux people...
[22:14] <theadmin> nf: Heh well... Most people are usually idle.
[22:14] <bubbasaures> like ants and bees we cluster
[22:15] <theadmin> nf: Also! There's the Ubuntu Customisation Kit which allows you to build your own Ubuntu flavor to your liking. It's in the official repos. You do need to know your way around the command-line to use it, and you have to be running Ubuntu, but it's still awesome.
[22:22] <fermulator> has anyone got the new Catalyst/AMD Omega 14.12 drivers working on Ubuntu 14.04?
[22:27] <nopf> mmmm. on lubuntu, i started "keyboard settings" and now the whole desktop hangs (with that program 's  window still open)... i can move the mouse. the clock moves. any tip on howto recover? i don't like to restart the machine
[22:28] <EriC^^> nopf: can you open a terminal? ctrl+alt+t
[22:28] <nopf> what i'd like: xkill from a text console. only it says: unable to grab  cursor
[22:28] <nopf> EriC^^: nope, not on the gui
[22:29] <EriC^^> type DISPLAY=:0 xkill
[22:29] <nopf> that's exactly the problem
[22:29] <EriC^^> and then alt+f7
[22:29] <nopf> EriC^^: same
[22:29] <EriC^^> it should work
[22:29] <EriC^^> odd
[22:29] <nopf> i even tried sleep 10 ; xkill to switch to f7 before the kill... will try agein....
[22:30] <nopf> EriC^^: yah, still the same... somehow all gui events are routed somewhere else or so
[22:31] <nopf> if only i knew wich programm/proc to kill!
[22:32] <Tesla> When I install Ubuntu 14 an extended partition is created,what is it used for?
[22:33] <ahop> Hi! Now Ubuntu Desktop works on my USB stick, i could boot on it, and do "Try"
[22:33] <ahop> Now is it possible to have it persistant (not "try") on a USB stick?
[22:33] <ahop> ie it wouldn't ask "Try" every time on startup, etc.
[22:33] <EriC^^> nopf: type ps aux | less
[22:33] <kaste>  ahop just install it to the stick
[22:33] <EriC^^> and try to find it
[22:33] <kaste> I did just that a couple of days ago
[22:33] <EriC^^> nopf: in unity it's called unity-control-center
[22:34] <ahop> daftykins any idea?
[22:34] <kaste> ahop: the only tricky thing you need to do is boot it into ram at bootup and then reformatting it
[22:35] <ahop> isn't there a "ready installed ISO" that I could dd on the USB key?
[22:36] <nopf> EriC^^: not on lubuntu obviously.and ps afx show *nothing* with 'control' in it...
[22:37] <k1l_> Tesla: you can only create 4 primary partitions. so if there are already some you need to make a extended one to put the ubuntu partitions inside that
[22:38] <omosoj> when i do open localhost:[port number] the response is Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
[22:39] <EriC^^> nopf: which window did you enter
[22:39] <EriC^^> the one for the keyboard and mouse?
[22:39] <kaste> omosoj: try man open, it opens a program on a new vt
[22:39] <kaste> I don't think that is what you want
[22:40] <nopf> EriC^^: the freeze happend exactly as i clicked 'add' for another keyboard layout
[22:40] <curious2000> hello. i have a basic question to ask. when i'm at the desktop and start typing, there'd be a little command line area at lower right corner of the desktop. what does it do?
[22:41] <k1l_> curious2000: its a search field from nautilus. but its useless on the desktop
[22:41] <nopf> EriC^^: the window's name is 'Keyboard Layout Handler', still on the screen and presumed to swallow all my input events... :/
[22:41] <omosoj> kaste, hmm. what is a virtual terminal?
[22:41] <curious2000> kll, ah thanks. i thought i could start the program by simply typing and press enter.
[22:42] <EriC^^> nopf: try pkill python3 if you want
[22:42] <EriC^^> it'll kill it dont know if it'll kill other stuff too though
[22:42] <EriC^^> hold on
[22:43] <k1l_> curious2000: press super (or super +a) for that
[22:43] <kaste> omosoj: it gives you a command prompt to enter stuff in, similar to the terminal emulator you are probably using, but without needing X11, usually X11 runs in vt7, to switch them you use ctrl-alt-Fx
[22:43] <curious2000> kll, super is what kind in windows?
[22:43] <curious2000> key, rather
[22:43] <k1l_> curious2000: yes. its the windows labled button
[22:43] <nopf> EriC^^: no such process. i'm not sure if the process is really still running. i had that once that i could find nothing, but xkill could remove the window, then everything was normal...
[22:44] <curious2000> kll, suppose i want to open mozilla, what would i type on the desktop?
[22:44] <curious2000> firefox
[22:45] <k1l_> curious2000: press "super" and then start typing firefox or browser
[22:45] <curious2000> ah, i see. i'll try now.
[22:45] <omosoj> kaste, this sounds complicated.
[22:46] <kaste> omosoj: you dont need to use them
[22:46] <k1l_> curious2000: just give it a go and see. with "super + a" you get to the apps search where only apps are listed. and keep in mind that tags work too, not only exact names
[22:46] <kaste> they just exist
[22:46] <omosoj> what does the error refer to? "Coudn't get a file descriptor referring to the console"?
[22:46] <omosoj> kaste, i'm following directions to set up a development environment
[22:46] <kaste> got a link to them?
[22:47] <omosoj> don't think i can share, but they're pretty simple. i'm developing a rails app. just set up dependencies, then "foreman start", then "open localhost:5000"
[22:48] <omosoj> foreman is a library that simulates processes that happen on the production server
[22:48] <kaste> ah, then they were probably written for mac
[22:48] <wilh> Hi everyone - a quicky... I don't suppose anyone can help me with this? - http://askubuntu.com/questions/568934/aptitude-is-unmarking-packages-as-auto-is-this-a-bug-or-feature
[22:48] <curious2000> kll, it works. thanks.
[22:48] <kaste> open on mac does something like xdg-open
[22:48] <kaste> but just open that adress in the browser
[22:48] <kaste> that is all it does
[22:49] <EriC^^> nopf: try DISPLAY=:0 setsid lxde
[22:50] <omosoj> kaste, hmm, yeah i think the guy who wrote this uses a mac.
[22:50] <curious2000> one more question is i'm using kensington trackball and whenever i boot up, it takes a long time for the device to be recognized. the keyboard would work, but the trackball, it seems that i'd have to wait for the screen to refresh first which it does after a minute after boots up.
[22:50] <omosoj> kaste, if i do xdg-open localhost:5000, i get the following error: gvfs-open: localhost:5000: error opening location: The specified location is not supported
[22:51] <kaste> just copy paste it into your browser
[22:52] <teward> is there a way to specifically figure out which release you're on programmatically in a Bash script?
[22:52] <teward> (such that 12.04 or 14.04 are specifically output?)
[22:52] <adunosine> ubuntu 14.04 is fucking bad!!!
[22:53] <curious2000> another issue that i encounter today is that when i have a usb 3 device attached to the usb 3 extension cable, the device wouldn't unmount.
[22:53] <adunosine> many problems
[22:53] <teward> adunosine: watch your language, please, and don't swear - your opinions are better suited for other channels
[22:53] <k1l_> teward: lsb_release -d
[22:53] <omosoj> kaste, oh, so the command only opens a page in the browser?
[22:54] <kaste> teward: yeah
[22:54] <OerHeks> teward, cat /etc/issue
[22:54] <kaste> teward: cat /etc/lsb-release
[22:55] <petepiano1960> kaste: Heh - I never knew that! Neat.
[22:57] <kaste> well issue is more portable to be honest
[22:57] <Bundesnachrichte> Hello
[22:58] <Bundesnachrichte> is there a tutorial for the installation process in order to use i3 window manager?
[23:01] <TheHighestFive> Anyone in here know anything about why bluetooth devices don't appear in the sound settings?
[23:01] <nopf> EriC^^: no such file. btw i think the client program is gone, only leaving a hollow window frame with an XGrab...
[23:01] <Bundesnachrichte> how can i switch between window managers?
[23:02] <EriC^^> nopf: do you have important stuff you need to save? you can always restart lightdm
[23:02] <EriC^^> you will lose any unsaved changes though
[23:03] <nopf> EriC^^: i don't want to drop the session. i have not that much unsaved changes, but maybe there are :)
[23:05] <nopf> EriC^^: hm, even xdotool key XF86Ungrab didn't work although support for that seems to be compiled in (at least the key sym is recognized)...
[23:09] <nopf> EriC^^: [solved] ok,  so 1) xdotool key XF86LogGrabInfo told me (in the Xorg.0.log) that openbox held a log and 2) kill -9 did the job, now everything is fine. thanks for your advice and patience
[23:10] <nopf> a grab that is, not a lock though ...
[23:10] <EriC^^> nopf: great
[23:14] <lapion> I read somewhere that all I have to to to use the persistent file created when installing to a usb stick is add the option persistent to the kernel commandline is this correct?
[23:15] <bekks> lapion: No.
[23:16] <nopf> not?
[23:16] <lapion> bekks so what else ?
[23:16] <bekks> nopf: No, since how does the non-persistent USB magically knows where the persistent data is to be found?
[23:16] <bekks> lapion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[23:18] <ahop> I am running Ub Desktop (Try from USB stick) and am running a 3 hours long process on my laptop
[23:18] <ahop> the laptop is plugged to power (charging)
[23:18] <ahop> is there a risk of laptop going to sleep ?
[23:18] <ahop> (during the task)   if I don't move mouse?
[23:19] <lapion> bekks nowhere in there is written how to point the system to the persistent file
[23:20] <nopf> bekks: i used it with 2 special partitions sucessfully. i only assumed that 'the persistent file created when installing to a usb' meant that ubuntu would have created some canonical (^^) filename and would know how to use that again
[23:21] <bekks> nopf: And that file needs to be there, so it not just an issue of adding a kernel command line parameter.
[23:22] <ablest1980> hi
[23:22] <jhutchins> nopf: You may also find useful advice at http://pendrivelinux.com
[23:22] <Laputa> hi, anyone using gnu screen knows how to check current option value like `set option?` in vim ?
[23:23] <nopf> bekks: yes, i only read lapion question in some way meaning 'file created when installing' that there was some file there already somehow, only the 'persistent' option was deleted somehow and had to be restored somehow. may have been misunderstanding that
[23:26] <kaste> Laputa: I don't think that feature exists there, mainly because I don't think you can change options on the fly. Try tmux
[23:27] <Tam5> Snowden, The NSA and Free Software   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Sc6pUR1mA
[23:27] <teward> Tam5: that's offtopic here
[23:27] <Tam5> oops sorry
[23:27] <cryptodan> yay another misinformed troll Tam5
[23:27] <Tam5> misinformed?
[23:28] <Tam5> misinformed in what way?
[23:28] <nopf> kaste: you can change nearly all options with ^:
[23:28] <bubbasaures> Tam5
[23:28] <bubbasaures> sorry
[23:28] <ahop> no "go to sleep" by default on Ubuntu Desktop running on laptop cmoputers?
[23:28] <ahop> or is there one?
[23:28] <nopf> Laputa: i also think you cannot find the value, because it's not like some kind of environment variable
[23:29] <kaste> nopf: what command does that map to?
[23:29] <nopf> kaste: https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html#Colon
[23:30] <cwheeler> I upgraded ubuntu and have 2 versions of postgresql install, how do I choose which one is used?
[23:30] <jhutchins> cwheeler: Uninstall the older version.
[23:30] <kaste> nopf: ah, problem is probably my keyboard layout.
[23:31] <cwheeler> thanks that's easy
[23:31] <cwheeler> I see they are both running
[23:31] <jhutchins> cwheeler: There may be notest about this in /usr/share/doc/posggresql*
[23:31] <jhutchins> notes.
[23:31] <Laputa> nopf: kaste thanks!
[23:31] <Montag42> how can i choose the window manager in lightdm?
[23:32] <kaste> How do I change the alt-tab behaviour in unity?
[23:32] <Montag42> (ubuntu 14.10)
[23:34] <eligrey> are there any dotfiles that auto-run no matter what folder they are in?
[23:35] <kaste> probably no, not exactly sure what you mean though
[23:35] <owen1> xdg-open uses firefox instead of chromium despite the fact that 'update-alternatives --get-selections |grep x-www-browser' is chromium. any ideas?
[23:35] <eligrey> kaste: like the autorun.sh stuff when you mount a drive
[23:36] <eligrey> kaste: for example, ~/.bashrc is autorun on login
[23:36] <kaste> then thank god no
[23:36] <eligrey> but what about something not in ~
[23:36] <eligrey> are there any areas under ~ (but not directly in the top of ~) where dotfiles might get auto executed?
[23:38] <kaste> technically in .profile .bashrc or similar you can call other stuff so yes
[23:38] <kaste> but not by default
[23:38] <nopf> owen1: maybe it uses gnome-www-browser entry?
[23:38] <kaste> what is your acutal problem?
[23:39] <eligrey> kaste: no problem, i'm just pentesting to expand a vuln i found
[23:39] <eligrey> i guess this path is a dead end
[23:43] <krokkk> hello, how to search my files with video resolution as parameter?
[23:43] <krokkk> is possible use nautilus or nemo for this?
[23:44] <EriC^^> krokkk: i doubt
[23:44] <EriC^^> krokkk: you can use find or the file extension, and run it through the file command to check the res
[23:44] <EriC^^> *for the
[23:44] <owen1> nopf: nice idea but it didn't help ):
[23:45] <Montag42> please how can i switch between window managers?
[23:46] <owen1> Montag42: logout
[23:46] <Montag42> O.o am i that stupid, thank you
[23:46] <owen1> and you should have a 'sessions' dropdown or something similar
[23:50] <nopf> owen1: you could strace xdg-open. here it strangly seems to look into that property and then still goes looking for /usr/local/sbin/x-www-browser and some other binaries
[23:51] <zohaib> hi
[23:57] <owen1> nopf: great idea. i'll do that
[23:58] <Yon> Hi guys/girls...I'm kinda new and I've been trying to set up file sharing between user accounts .. is there an easy way to do this?
[23:59] <ikonia> Yon: between accounts ?
[23:59] <Yon> ikonia: yeah..between admin and standard users