[02:25] <rich> Evening.  Anyone on for a question on menubars?
[02:26] <rich> My app menus now live in the dock or whatever that's called, no longer in the application itself.
[02:27] <rich> How can I put them back?  They were fine last week, today though they moved and I completely can't stand them there.
[02:30] <xangua> dock¿ xfce has no dock
[02:30] <xangua> you can set up a panel to look like a dock or use dockbarx
[02:38] <rich> Well then not the dock.  Menus.  Menus in say Firefox.  As of last week they were actually in firefox.  Now they're in a panel item called Indicator plug-in? or
[02:38] <rich> The indicator plug in shows up in the menu bar, task bar, whatever it's called where the notifications, time, all that stuff is.
[02:39] <rich> I want menus for Firefox to be in the firefox application, under the title bar where God intended them.  :)
[02:40] <rich> It's dead simple to remove them from the dock/tray/taskbar/whatever, just right-click and remove the indicator plugin for it.  Gone.  But... now they're not anywhere.
[02:42] <rich> I had a terrible install this time around - decided to try Ubuntu but it isn't to my taste so I just installed Xubuntu-desktop.  All seemed to totally work fine over the past few weeks, until this morning.
[02:42] <rich> (New laptop)
[02:46] <rich> Ah.
[02:46] <rich> May have the solution.  Firefox got an update, I think it lost my "always show the menu" setting.  THAT's the problem.  :)
[02:47] <rich> So, the problem with the menu showing up in the wrong spot was two, both easily resolved problems.
[03:09] <[JJ]Auburn> Anyone know if M.2 wireless cards are useable on desktop M.2 ports?
[03:11] <[JJ]Auburn> Admittedly, I know next to nothing about M.2 port specifications
[03:11] <[JJ]Auburn> or if its backwards compatible w/ msata
[03:13] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: if you have hardware sitting there, and you are wondering if its supported, i would just fire up a live iso, and see.. you can do it via USB
[03:14] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: I don't own any M.2 devices ATM
[03:14] <[JJ]Auburn> I was curious to see if maybe I could use my M.2 port for a wifi/bluetooth card for M.2 ports
[03:14] <[JJ]Auburn> but from what I can see, most of those are made w/ laptops in mind, not desktops
[03:15] <[JJ]Auburn> So maybe I'm misreading this stuff...
[03:16] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: i cant imagine it mattering if its a laptop or a desktop.. it'll be more about, if the hardware supports linux or not
[03:16] <[JJ]Auburn> hmm, okay
[03:17] <[JJ]Auburn> so I'd just have to get ahold of the type of chips I'm looking at and see if it is physically compatible
[03:17] <[JJ]Auburn> and from there, just hope linux drivers are available
[03:17] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: i would get a model number and search both "linux model #" and "ubuntu model #".. you can usually see what folks have to say about it in the community.. other than than, ask the creators of the device if they provide support for linux
[03:17] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: "hope" doesnt get a driver.. :/
[03:17] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: just remember, nothing about linux is preventing it from working, and keep an open mind, if they dont officially support linux
[03:18] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: Hope doesn't float either, but I'm finding little info about this, so I'm either charting unexplored territory, or nobody has thought to use a M.2 compliant wifi card in a desktop before
[03:18] <[JJ]Auburn> and also, such cards require a screw to be held down, and I don't see such a screw hole on my mobo, or most M.2 compliant mobos for that matter
[03:18] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: *anyone* is welcome to write a driver for any hardware for linux.. linux is all open.. all of xubuntu/ubuntu and linux are open, completely..
[03:18] <[JJ]Auburn> putting my theory in even murkier territory
[03:19] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: if the hardware you have has no way to accept the hardware, then, that is an additional barrier
[03:19] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: Oh certainly. At this moment though, my curiosity is less w/ drivers, and more w/ the hardware
[03:19] <[JJ]Auburn> the port type
[03:19] <[JJ]Auburn> I know little about M.2
[03:19] <[JJ]Auburn> just that there is a small stream of M.2 compliant SSDs out there ATM
[03:19] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: i say, check and see if your hardware can even use the device.. then, try one with linux, if possible.. try it live.. save the reciepts.. we cant, and dont gurantee hardware support
[03:19] <[JJ]Auburn> not to be confused w/ msata apparently
[03:20] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: if its literally a hard drive, just try it
[03:20] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: Alright, I understand
[03:20] <[JJ]Auburn> I will keep reading on this though, see if anyone has ever tried this
[03:20] <[JJ]Auburn> not linux specifically, but just the port compatability
[03:23] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: maybe a hardware channel is a better fit for you..
[03:23] <[JJ]Auburn> probably. I dunno many places around here.
[03:24] <[JJ]Auburn> I was just hoping maybe someone here knew a thing about M.2 or msata ports on desktop motherboards
[03:24] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: this is specifically the xubuntu support channel.. you might do better in the OT ubuntu channel. #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:24] <holstein> again, "hope" doesnt provide any drivers.. :/
[03:24] <[JJ]Auburn> yeah, probably. Sorry for bothering
[03:25] <holstein> though, as i said, if its literally a hard drive, just try it. but, it sounds like, you dont have the proper hardware.. which is why i suggest #hardware or ##hardware
[03:25] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: Yeah, I was primarily focused on the hardware compliancy first and foremost. Drivers would be my secondary focus there.
[03:25] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: if you dont have the physical port to connect it to, then you are not "compliant"
[03:25] <[JJ]Auburn> Speculation of hardware, as I don't have a device to use w/ my M.2 port
[03:25] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: I have a port, I meant a device I was curious about checking out
[03:26] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: go for it. check it out
[03:26] <[JJ]Auburn> but you're right, this is kinda the wrong channel for such a question; I was just hoping someone might know
[03:26] <[JJ]Auburn> thanks for your reply though, and sorry to bother
[03:26] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: you will be able to plug the thing in, and see if the bios sees it.. *then*, you can try the live iso for xubuntu/ubuntu, as i suggested, and see that it works with linux
[03:27] <[JJ]Auburn> that was my thought too. My only curiosity was just if the pinout on the sort of chips I was looking at is correct for an M.2 port
[03:27] <[JJ]Auburn> like, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2
[03:27] <[JJ]Auburn> this is the sorta port I've got
[03:28] <[JJ]Auburn> this was sorta the chip I was looking at: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oApWneAVL.jpg
[03:28] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: try a hardware channel
[03:28] <[JJ]Auburn> I've never dealt w/ such a thing before, and maybe I've got the wrong idea and it'd be stupid
[03:28] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein, yup, I was just giving you a reference there
[03:28] <[JJ]Auburn> I'll give the hardware channel a shot
[03:29] <holstein> or, just give the hardware a shot.. plug it in, see if the bios sees it
[03:30] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: My one problem would be all my options to purchase it, as far as I can tell, are limited in return policies
[03:30] <[JJ]Auburn> its not an expensive thing from what I can tell
[03:30] <[JJ]Auburn> but 30 bucks would be terrible to waste on something if it turns out it is not what I was looking for
[03:31] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: only the creators of the hardware can tell you..
[03:31] <holstein> i will buy locally, for more $$ with a return policy
[03:31] <[JJ]Auburn> Its a generic intel chip from what I can tell, so the creators are probably chinese
[03:32] <holstein> i'll even go to the big box stores, and try live iso's right there.. or, tell them im going to try something at home,and return it, regardless
[03:32] <[JJ]Auburn> bit of a shame I'm nowhere near a more comprehensive store for these kind of things
[03:32] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: what is the goal here, friend? just to plug something is a slot you have? i mean, if you want ssd, or ssd performance, you dont *have* to plug something in that port..
[03:33] <holstein> go with something you *know* works..
[03:33] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: No, I wanted to conserve PCI port space, by maybe using the M.2 port for a wifi card
[03:33] <holstein> or, you take the risk.. or ask the manufacturer..
[03:33] <[JJ]Auburn> and I've noticed that, for laptop cards anyways, there are ones that support both wifi and bluetooth
[03:33] <[JJ]Auburn> I keep thinking I'll want to save my PCI-E 1x port for something else
[03:34] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: i think you are assuming a larger different in the laptop hardware vs desktop.. the ports can be the same for many components..
[03:34] <holstein> difference*
[03:34] <[JJ]Auburn> I might be assuming a bigger difference than there actually is, but one thing is certain, manufactorers don't intend for this sorta thing, and it shows in the overall market for such chips
[03:34] <[JJ]Auburn> they are all designed w/ a laptop in mind. A small notch in the top to screw the chip in place.
[03:35] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: sure.. so *dont* expect to buy it and have it work, then
[03:35] <[JJ]Auburn> which laptops don't take into account. Now, maybe it'd sit flush w/ the port, but I dunno, I've never had it.
[03:35] <[JJ]Auburn> holstein: I'm not expecting anything, I'm trying to figure out if I can expect anything
[03:35] <[JJ]Auburn> er
[03:35] <[JJ]Auburn> I mean
[03:35] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: you cant
[03:35] <[JJ]Auburn> I am trying to figure out if there is anything to expect
[03:35] <[JJ]Auburn> the port standards anywats
[03:36] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: you literally cant, unless the manufacturer states you can.. so, you can
[03:36] <[JJ]Auburn> *anyways
[03:36] <holstein> cant*
[03:36] <[JJ]Auburn> well, unless someone else has explicitly thought the same thing I've thought and has tried it, then you are right
[03:37] <[JJ]Auburn> I'm kinda hoping someone else has thought of this as well, though... Not hoping too hard, just curious.
[03:37] <[JJ]Auburn> If this idea has any sort of definite dealbreaker to it, I'd just as soon go w/ a PCI-E 1x port, but it'd be great if I could use the M.2 port and conserve space
[03:37] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: sure.. try a channel, where folks are, that use hardware.. like #hardware
[03:37] <[JJ]Auburn> yup, I am on there right now and have asked
[03:37] <[JJ]Auburn> hoping for a reply
[03:38] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: or, try the larger channel #ubuntu.. this is just for xubuntu.. xfce and xubuntu.. small channel
[03:38] <[JJ]Auburn> true
[03:38] <holstein> !ot
[03:38] <holstein> and use the offtopic channels, since, you are not seeking support.. #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <[JJ]Auburn> yes, I have asked on ubuntu-offtopic but I've gotten no immediate reply
[03:38] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: the answer can be, no one has tried it..
[03:39] <[JJ]Auburn> that sounds very likely, as I've not found anything online approaching this line of logic
[03:39] <[JJ]Auburn> but if I could prove it viable, and linux drivers exist for the range of chip I'm looking at, then think of how great that'd be
[03:40] <[JJ]Auburn> I'd have a choice in possibly installing internal antennas in my case
[03:41] <[JJ]Auburn> or, something else. I dunno, but the possibility of conserving space but having the same functionality as wifi from a standard PCI/USB card, that interests me
[03:41] <holstein> [JJ]Auburn: plug it in, and see.. the choices are.. ask the creators. try it yourself...
[03:42] <holstein> *everything* else is speculation, and can actually be different chipsets
[03:42] <[JJ]Auburn> you're right, that might be my only real recourse
[03:42] <[JJ]Auburn> when I get a chance, I might find out if someplace nearby has such cards and give it a shot
[03:43] <holstein> make sure its ok that you completely ruin both the device and the computer you are testing..
[03:43] <[JJ]Auburn> yeah, I would know there's a risk based on the form factor and port type alone
[03:44] <[JJ]Auburn> know/assume
[03:56] <[JJ]Auburn> I am researching it some more though, holstein. I am noting that there is really only one type of chip out there ATM like what I'm wanting.
[03:56] <[JJ]Auburn> And it is probably only a year old, and development for drivers is still ongoing (I'm guessing).
[03:56] <[JJ]Auburn> Intel® Wireless 7260
[03:57] <[JJ]Auburn> There's a generic M.2 variation of this chip, with M.2-compatible laptops in mind.
[09:32] <roo79x> hi all I am trying to ssh to my raspberry pi using pi@serverpi but I get an error ssh: Could not resolve hostname serverpi: Name or service not known. I can access it if I use pi@ipaddress is there something I'm missing?
[09:32] <deshipu> a dns entry
[09:34] <roo79x> deshipu: ok I'll go look it up I don't know how to add a dns entry, thank you for your time
[09:46] <roo79x> ok just did a bit of googling but I'm confused, do I add serverpi <ipaddress> to /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:47] <irth> roo79x: you can make an alias in ssh config
[09:48] <irth> roo79x: google ssh host alias (i don't remember how to do that)
[09:48] <irth> (i mean, i remember how to google, i don't remember how to make aliases :D)
[09:48] <roo79x> ok thanks
[09:53] <roo79x> ok fixed it I just added <ipaddress>   serverpi to /etc/hosts thank you once angain guys for the great help and your time
[10:57] <fufese> Good morning. I have just installed ubuntu 14.10 on a brand new laptop, an asus p550L, everything seem to be working fine except for the internal microphone. I have adjusted all the volumes in alsa-mixer but so far I haven't been able to make it work
[11:07] <bazhang> try pavucontrol , padevchooser after making sure its not muted in alsamixer
[11:07] <bazhang> what is pcm set to in alsamixer
[11:07] <fufese> I have bazhag, it is not muted in alsamixer
[11:08] <bazhang> you're crossposting this in #ubuntu
[11:08] <fufese> and I have tried pavucontrol too, the internal mic shows no sign of life there either
[11:08] <bazhang> what is pcm set to
[11:09] <fufese> I am sorry, I am by no mean an expert what does pcm stand for?
[11:09] <bazhang> a setting in alsamixer
[11:10] <fufese> ah let me check
[11:10] <bazhang> dont set to 100
[11:11] <fufese> pcm is set to a 100 should I set it to a lower value or mute it completely?
[11:12] <bazhang> 80
[11:12] <fufese> done
[11:12] <bazhang> 100 will be all screechy noise or even nothing as it overloads
[11:14] <fufese> still nothing
[11:16] <fufese> if I go in pavucontrol under input devices I only see built in analog stereo and under port internal microphone and if I try talking the bar barely moves
[11:18] <fufese> under alsamixer it also sees a hda intel hdmi which have no capture control or any other setting
[11:21] <fufese> bazhang still there?
[11:21] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems <--- seen this?
[11:21] <bazhang> yes
[11:22] <fufese> well the problem is, it is not a sound issue, I hear all sounds from my speakers perfectly
[11:22] <fufese> it's a internal mic issue
[11:22] <bazhang> and that link has info on microphones
[11:22] <bazhang> so you have not checked it then
[11:23] <fufese> let me see, i have checked so many I honestly lost count
[11:26] <fufese> I am checking it now
[11:30] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture and here
[11:55] <bazhang> whats the outcome fufese
[12:13] <ponc> Hi friends! I have just upgraded to 14.10 release from 14.04
[12:14] <ponc> but i'm experiencing some problems
[12:14] <ponc> is there any way to come back to 14.04?
[12:15] <Unit193> No, you can't move backwards.
[12:17] <deshipu> actually, yes, just recover from the backup that you were asked to make before you upgraded
[12:19] <ponc> the problem is like with this new xubuntu, the applications doesn't load the gtk+ theme as default
[12:19] <ponc> and I don't know how to change it
[12:20] <ponc> its like gtk is broken after upgrade
[14:59] <xubuntu00w> UFEI boot with problemas, `booting in insecure mode`﻿
[14:59] <xubuntu00w> UFEI boot with problems, `booting in insecure mode`﻿
[15:00] <holstein> !uefi
[15:01] <holstein> xubuntu00w: if your hardware has something in place to prevent you from installing other operating systems, and disabling that "feature" causes a message, you may just need to live with that message..
[15:02] <xubuntu00w> I don`t think, i test with 14.04 and doesn`t have any error
[15:02] <holstein> xubuntu00w: i say, enjoy 14.04, then.. its still supported
[15:02] <xubuntu00w> Good i Will intall 14.04 and give distro-upgrade
[15:03] <holstein> xubuntu00w: you may not have enough information there to assume its an issue related to whatever other version you are using, that you dont mention the version # of.. or, you could have a bad iso download
[15:03] <holstein> xubuntu00w: i actually *dont* suggest that at all
[15:03] <xubuntu00w> thanks, going install 14.04 thanks all
[15:03] <holstein> xubuntu00w: if you cant get your hardware to support 14.10 live, then, i would think it safe to assume you could have the same issues with 14.10 upgraded
[15:03] <holstein> xubuntu00w: sure.. enjoy 14.04.. the lts..
[15:03] <holstein> !14.04
[15:16] <Fohlen> hey guys, how can I switch my default browser to chromium (entirely)
[15:16] <Fohlen> xubuntu 14.04
[15:17] <Fohlen> I tried to use the default-application setting in the menu but no success so far. I also changed mime.types in the console which (at least) oppens chromium by default now
[15:17] <Fohlen> for links
[15:27] <brainwash> Fohlen: which browser is launched if run the command "exo-open --launch WebBrowser"?
[15:30] <holstein> you can try sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[15:32] <Fohlen> holstein: did that.
[15:32] <holstein> Fohlen: are you just getting the popup from chromium? if so, i just tick the "dont show me this again" box..
[15:33] <Fohlen> holstein: when clicking on "Browser" in the menu tab it asks me what is the default browser every session
[15:33] <Fohlen> sometimes even twice a session
[15:33] <holstein> Fohlen: sure.. can you tick the "dont show me" box.. i set mine in the terminal, and then, i just ask not to be prompted..
[15:34] <Fohlen> well it doesn't open either than
[15:34] <Fohlen> :P
[15:35] <holstein> Fohlen: what doesnt open what?
[15:36] <Fohlen> when I (eg) press the internet button (which is a shortcut to the menu entry I believe) it neither opens the browser, ofcourse
[15:36] <Fohlen> :D
[15:36] <Fohlen> but I see the point
[15:37] <Fohlen> holstein: any idea how comes this "bug"? I use chromium on lubuntu and it works fine using the described methode
[15:37] <holstein> Fohlen: 10:27 < brainwash> Fohlen: which browser is launched if run the command "exo-open --launch WebBrowser"?
[15:38] <Fohlen> holstein: it asks me which browser to use
[15:39] <Fohlen> silly, it also doesn't show the symbol (like for firefox) in the list
[15:39] <Fohlen> I wonder if it's not propperly installed
[15:39] <Fohlen> I used the console apt-get and that causes problems with the menu sometimes
[15:39] <holstein> Fohlen: not here
[15:39] <Fohlen> as far as I can tell
[15:39] <holstein> !bug
[15:39] <Fohlen> holstein: it is missing integration or icons sometimes
[15:39] <holstein> Fohlen: see if you can qualify the steps you have taken, and get someone to reproduce. works fine here
[15:39] <Fohlen> using SoftwareCenter everything works, normally
[15:40] <Fohlen> kk
[15:40] <Fohlen> I'll do that
[15:40] <holstein> Fohlen: sure.. im just saying, for me, here, on xubuntu, it doesnt "sometimes not work"
[15:40] <Fohlen> agreed
[16:05] <Executioner> hi
[16:06] <Executioner> I'm getting a hang when using the alternative installer of 12.04, are there any logs to check?
[16:23] <Evil_Eric> ok its been a few days since ive installed ubuntu and i got a few weird things happening
[16:23] <Evil_Eric> xubuntu
[16:24] <Evil_Eric> sorry
[16:24] <Evil_Eric> im trying to figure out when after a few mins of logging on gzip runs hard in the background
[16:24] <Evil_Eric> for 2 or 3 mins
[16:26] <Evil_Eric> oooo im being retarded nm found the reason thanks for putting up with my stupidity
[16:28] <Deepak> Hi Team, I spent 2 hours connecting my xubuntu desktop to my wired internet but I could'nt. On my windows 7 machine it shows wan miniport pppoe. I tried connecting my same wire to laptop and chose DSL. It did not connect. I tried pppoe conf and did all setup but when i use plog command it shows bad authentication, connection failed. I don't know what to do no
[16:34] <Deepak> pls help guys
[16:34] <Deepak> Hi Team, I spent 2 hours connecting my xubuntu desktop to my wired internet but I could'nt. On my windows 7 machine it shows wan miniport pppoe. I tried connecting my same wire to laptop and chose DSL. It did not connect. I tried pppoe conf and did all setup but when i use plog command it shows bad authentication, connection failed. I don't know what to do no
[16:35] <Alexfrench> your hardware maybe isn't recognized ??
[16:37] <Deepak> well how should I proceed, when i was checking xubuntu before installation in live mode. It connected well
[16:38] <Alexfrench> maybe list your hardware to check if  your lan card is compatible ?
[16:40] <drc> " bad authentication, connection failed" should be a big hint.  Start with password(s) and then to encrryption (wpa, etc)
[16:41] <drc> OH, sorry, you said wired, not wireless.
[16:41] <Deepak> ok thanks guys...I will look into it soon
[16:42] <drc> I'd still look into the necessary driver for the lan card, like Alexfrench said.
[16:42]  * drc hasn't seen the word "ppoe" in a very long time :)
[20:41] <squeegily> Is there a way to get media button control for gmusicbrowser without making changes to the Window manager configuration?
[20:45] <Alexfrench> you mean use it as a lancer ??
[21:10] <rosaecaeruleae> is there any way i can blank the screen on demand, but all processess keep running?
[21:10] <rosaecaeruleae> imagine I want to listen to a song in total darkness and want to blank the screen
[21:13] <deshipu> rosaecaeruleae: just set the screensaver to disable the screen
[21:13] <deshipu> rosaecaeruleae: and then invoke the screensaver
[21:13] <rosaecaeruleae> how do I invoke hte scrreensaver?
[21:13] <brainwash> rosaecaeruleae: you can run "xset dpms force off" to trigger screen blanking
[21:14] <brainwash> rosaecaeruleae: do you use light-locker?
[21:15] <rosaecaeruleae> xset dpms force off logged me off , with a very bright log in screen
[21:15] <rosaecaeruleae> yes i have light locker
[21:15] <brainwash> ah, it locked your screen
[21:16] <brainwash> light-locker listens to certain events
[21:17] <brainwash> and it should actually blank the unlock screen initially :/
[21:18] <brainwash> rosaecaeruleae: you could disable automatic screen locking (light locker settings)
[21:18] <brainwash> unless you need it to lock automatically
[21:27] <gijoe3k> Has anyone had any success setting up multi monitors with having the 2nd monitor on the left of the main monitor under Xubuntu 14.10?
[21:27] <Hund> gijoe3k, Yes
[21:28] <Hund> I recomend Xrandr.
[21:28] <gijoe3k> Really! Ive been struggling to get it working under mine.
[21:29] <Hund> gijoe3k, xrandr --output HDMI-0 --auto --output DVI-I-1 --auto --left-of HDMI-0
[21:29] <gijoe3k> It works great having the 2nd monitor on the right but if I want to have it on the left XFCE panel moves to the left and wants to treat the 2nd monitor as the primary monitor :(
[21:29] <Hund> Thats how I do it.
[21:29] <gijoe3k> hhhmmm ill try it out
[21:29] <gijoe3k> thank you
[21:30] <Hund> gijoe3k, Dont forget to change the names though. :P
[21:30] <Hund> But Im not using Xfce atm.
[21:30] <gijoe3k> right, how do you scan names using xrandr?
[21:30] <Hund> xrandr
[21:30] <Hund> :P
[21:31] <gijoe3k> oh i'ts that easy
[21:31] <Hund> Almoust to easy. :P
[21:32] <Hund> gijoe3k, You might want to add "--primary" to.
[21:33] <gijoe3k> where should I put "--primary"
[21:33] <Hund> After --auto
[21:33] <gijoe3k> gotcha, thank you :)
[21:34] <Hund> gijoe3k, Did it work? :)
[21:34] <gijoe3k> going through it now...
[21:39] <gijoe3k> Well, it moved everything like it should of: VGA-1 ---> LVDS-1
[21:39] <gijoe3k> but it's treating my laptop screen(LVDS-1) has a secondary screen to the right of my VGA-1 screen :(
[21:40] <gijoe3k> and my VGA-1 screen as primary
[21:40] <gijoe3k> XFCE panel on the VGA-1 with desktop on the same screen
[21:40] <Hund> Let me see the command you used?
[21:40] <gijoe3k> xrandr --output LVDS-1 --auto --primary --output VGA-1 --auto --left-of LVDS-1
[21:40] <Hund> I dont think the panels move. You have to move them yourself.
[21:41] <gijoe3k> gotcha, move and see if it will work
[21:41] <gijoe3k> *ill
[21:41] <Hund> Are you able to move windows to the left or the right of your primary monitor? :P
[21:43] <rosaecaeruleae> that doidnt work, i still need a command to just blank the screen
[21:43] <rosaecaeruleae> no log off no lock
[21:44] <gijoe3k> I am able to move windows to the right VGA-1 -----> LVDS-1
[21:45] <Hund> gijoe3k, Hm
[21:47] <gijoe3k> I just move the xfce panel to LVDS-1 right clicking the panel and going to "panel" ---> "panel preferences"
[21:47] <gijoe3k> click on the button that says "Output"
[21:47] <gijoe3k> and choosing LVDS-1
[21:48] <gijoe3k> the strange thing is I can't move over desktop items from VGA-1 to LVDS-1(HOME, TRASH and File System)
[21:49] <Hund> gijoe3k, Not sure whats wrong.
[21:49] <gijoe3k> I can move them any where in the VGA-1 screen but can't move them into LVDS-1
[21:49] <gijoe3k> weird huh
[21:50] <Hund> Yeah. It always worked just fine when I used Xfce.
[21:51] <gijoe3k> ill try a reboot
[21:51] <Hund> gl