[01:05] <brousch__> Planet killer!
[01:20] <rick_h_> brousch__: :P better than the SRT charger I saw while there. Costs about the same as well
[01:55] <cmaloney> We'll be starting in about 5 minutes
[01:57] <gamerchick02> woot!
[02:00] <cmaloney> OK, Downton Abbey is on
[02:00] <cmaloney> but we have our meeting at the moment
[02:00] <cmaloney> so please split your attentions and we'll make this brief
[02:00] <cmaloney> Since the first few moments are just underwriting and recap
[02:01] <cmaloney> First up: Penguicon approacheth
[02:01] <cmaloney> Thinking we'll have our release party there
[02:02] <brousch__> I'm here!
[02:02] <gamerchick02> that works
[02:02] <cmaloney> I'll see if I can coordinate particulars and what-not
[02:02] <gamerchick02> i'm here too but Downton is starting. you know what's important!!
[02:02] <cmaloney> Heh
[02:02] <cmaloney> Figured I'd get that bit out of the way
[02:02] <cmaloney> JoDee's in the other room watching
[02:02] <gamerchick02> :-P
[02:02] <brousch__> unrecorded tv? Barbaric
[02:02] <gamerchick02> JoDee is an awesome lady
[02:03] <cmaloney> She is. :)
[02:03] <cmaloney> Anywho, I think that's all we have coming up
[02:03] <gamerchick02> brousch__ i watch it on broadcast!
[02:03] <cmaloney> Save for global jams and what-not
[02:03] <brousch__> Ew
[02:03] <cmaloney> Which is Feb 6-8th
[02:03] <gamerchick02> global jam is February?
[02:04] <cmaloney> If anyone would like to coordinate an in-person meeting that would be awesome
[02:04] <cmaloney> Yep
[02:04] <gamerchick02> Penguicon is April, right?
[02:04] <cmaloney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[02:04] <cmaloney> Yep
[02:04] <gamerchick02> let's see where i'm gonna be during both of those.
[02:04] <cmaloney> kk
[02:05] <cmaloney> Regardless I think it might be cool to meet up in person
[02:05] <gamerchick02> it would be!
[02:06] <cmaloney> Since the IRC global jams have been less than attended. :)
[02:06] <cmaloney> Anywho, those are the items that I had to cover.
[02:06] <cmaloney> Anyone have anything they'd like to cover?
[02:06] <cmaloney> (More info on the above events on the mailing list)
[02:07] <gamerchick02> yay mailing list
[02:07] <gamerchick02> i should probably get a computer up and running with ubuntu then... ?  :-P
[02:07] <cmaloney> That might help. ;)
[02:08] <gamerchick02> will that super cheap HP Stream run it do you think?
[02:08] <cmaloney> nogt familar with it
[02:09] <gamerchick02> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-stream-11-6-laptop-intel-celeron-2gb-memory-32gb-emmc-solid-state-drive-horizon-blue/9195102.p?id=1219398344673&skuId=9195102
[02:09] <gamerchick02> le cheap
[02:10] <cmaloney> Anywho, food for thought. :)
[02:10] <cmaloney> Anything else?
[02:11] <gamerchick02> i think i'm good
[02:23] <cmaloney> OK, I think that's it then
[02:23] <cmaloney> Thank you everyone!
[02:25] <gamerchick02> you're welcome.
[02:26] <gamerchick02> i wonder if someone's tried that HP Stream and tried to put ubuntu on it?
[02:26] <gamerchick02> anyone
[02:26] <gamerchick02> ?
[02:26]  * gamerchick02 pokes channel
[02:29] <cmaloney> First I've hard of them so no idea.
[02:31] <gamerchick02> there's a note on the ubuntu forums. looks like wifi is a pain to get started and the trackpad doesn't work right
[02:47] <cmaloney> Ugh
[02:52] <gamerchick02> i know. i saw that and said the same thing
[03:02] <gamerchick02> ok Downton. see everyone tomorrow or something!
[03:02] <cmaloney> Have fun
[03:03] <cmaloney> Apparently it's a 2 hour episode
[13:37] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:39] <_stink_> yo
[13:39] <brousch__> werdup
[13:43] <_stink_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA
[13:53] <rick_h_> morning
[13:53] <rick_h_> back to the grind
[13:58] <brousch__> Do you also roast it yourself?
[14:28] <cmaloney> Heh
[14:29] <rick_h_> no, I buy pre-roasted shipped every 2weeks :)
[14:36] <jrwren> from where?
[14:37] <cmaloney> Dunkin Drone-uts
[14:38] <rick_h_> jrwren: petes
[14:38] <rick_h_> peets
[14:39] <rick_h_> a bag lasts just about 2wk so get a new bag every 2. Almost to the day so it's usually 1wk old or less when I get it
[14:39] <brousch__> Hm, they have decaf and half-caf
[14:40] <brousch__> oooh, decaf sumatra
[14:40] <jrwren> mmm... decaf, so that I can drink it all day long.
[14:40] <brousch__> And not get Angina!
[14:41] <rick_h_> I like the CAFE DOMINGO and get that
[14:42] <brousch__> I'll give this a try. I'm getting tired of Biggby French Roast decaf
[14:48] <rick_h_> I <3 it
[14:48] <rick_h_> the only issue is when I go to sprints for a week I don't use my bad and I end up with extra I try to pawn off on cmaloney and others
[15:00] <cmaloney> heh
[15:08] <rick_h_> man, wtf I need to get more bookie time
[15:08] <rick_h_> people offering to i18n it, patch this, do that
[15:09] <rick_h_> soon I'll have to figure out how to be a 'community manager' :P
[15:09] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's crazy
[15:09] <cmaloney> I think they're looking for GSoC 2015. ;)
[15:10] <rick_h_> yea, and we thought they were early last year
[15:10] <rick_h_> ugh
[15:10] <cmaloney> We didn't exist last year. ;)
[15:10] <rick_h_> we'll have to recruit brousch__ this year
[15:10] <rick_h_> get him off that django kivy stuff into a real community project :P
[15:10] <cmaloney> as far as they're concerned.
[15:10] <cmaloney> Now we have a track record. ;)
[15:10] <cmaloney> (last year around January)
[15:11] <cmaloney> Yeah, drag him off of kivy
[15:11] <cmaloney> they're going nowhere anyway.
[15:11] <cmaloney> Android is a fad
[15:11] <cmaloney> ;)
[15:13] <brousch__> I actually don't do much web stuff any more
[15:13] <rick_h_> we can fix that
[15:13] <cmaloney> heh
[15:13] <rick_h_> and besides, bookie isn't all web
[15:13] <rick_h_> someone wants to do a desktop client now
[15:14] <rick_h_> and then there's the android app
[15:14] <rick_h_> the back end, the front end, the side end, the no end
[15:14] <cmaloney> Can we have the website op up with a nag for downloading the app
[15:14]  * cmaloney makes a feature request
[15:14] <jrwren> bookie safari sync would be sweet.
[15:14] <jrwren> I should do that :p
[15:15] <cmaloney> It won't be complete until it reads newsgroups
[15:16] <brousch__> I've considered a bookie app in kivy. The stickiest part is kivy's lack of a web view
[15:16] <cmaloney> Doesn't need a web view
[15:17] <brousch__> Sending out to the external browser for stuff is lame
[15:18] <brousch__> I use a reddit app with a webview. It's really nice
[15:20] <cmaloney> That's kind of the point of Bookie though
[15:20] <cmaloney> You use it as a gateway to other things
[15:20] <cmaloney> not as the end itself.
[15:21] <brousch__> But bookie + webview of breadable version is what I would want
[15:24] <cmaloney> Ah, right
[15:25] <cmaloney> So you need to figure out how to get kivy to do a decent web view then
[15:25] <cmaloney> easy peasy.
[15:26] <brousch__> There are platform-specific attempts like embedding chromium, but they are clunky
[15:28] <brousch__> Actually phonegap might be a good base for a bookie app
[15:35] <rick_h_> yea, the lack of the readable view on the android app has been a sticking point myself
[15:35] <rick_h_> I wanted to pay someone to add it
[15:36] <rick_h_> that plus some general ui cleanup and I'd use it a lot more
[15:36] <jrwren> brousch__: can't you use UIWebView? :)
[15:37] <brousch__> I'm not familiar with Apple, but in general native views are painful to use
[16:50] <jcastro> rick_h_, man this new X1 dude
[16:52] <cmaloney> jcastro: Didnt' you hear? Thinkpad is dead.
[16:52] <jcastro> they were for me
[16:52] <jcastro> now let's hope they do the same for the X series
[16:53] <brousch__> Let's hope they kill it?
[16:53] <jrwren> did you see that phoronix compare of OSX to Ubuntu on MacBook Air, and Ubuntu was faster on every test, sometimes significantly so.
[16:53] <jcastro> the X240 deserves to be killed
[16:54] <cmaloney> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/ces2015/#index.html?0=6
[16:54] <cmaloney> Hey look, it's the Atari SIO bus all over again
[16:54] <jcastro> hah yeah
[16:55] <cmaloney> There's a curious lack of keyboard shots
[16:55] <jcastro> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/4/7491479/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-laptop-announced-ces-2015
[16:55] <jcastro> kb looks like they just reverted it to the older one
[16:55] <jcastro> (which is what I wanted)
[16:56] <cmaloney> Now I'm interested.
[16:56] <jcastro> well yeah that's the big news
[16:56] <jcastro> normal thinkpads are back
[16:56] <cmaloney> Nice: PrintSC next to alt and caps
[16:56] <cmaloney> what. the. fuck
[16:57] <jcastro> that's always been there iirc?
[16:58] <cmaloney> Not on my laptop
[16:58] <cmaloney> Seriously, it's bad enough that I accidentally hit "menu". Print-screen is even worse. :)
[16:58] <cmaloney> It's like taking a record that i'm a dumbass.
[16:59] <jcastro> you could unbind the key?
[17:00] <jcastro> or bind it to something else?
[17:00] <cmaloney> Yeah, i could
[17:00] <jcastro> another alt or something
[17:00] <cmaloney> Just seems every laptop has different ideas of where to put the keys
[17:00] <cmaloney> none of which are optimal
[17:01] <cmaloney> But seeing a return to form is a nice touch
[17:02] <jcastro> I know someone with the touchpad Fkeys version
[17:02] <jcastro> and it was so horrible
[17:04] <cmaloney> Oh you don't have to convince me
[17:04] <cmaloney> Just looking at it made me angry
[17:05] <cmaloney> It's like I wanted to head over to China and shove the designer's nose in it in the hopes they'd never dump that load of shit on the floor again.
[17:07] <brousch__> So much anger
[17:57] <cmaloney> http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/5/7492891/wrestlemania-pinball-machine-stern-linux
[17:58] <cmaloney> Don't care for the license but the tech impresses me
[18:42]  * DrDaemonEye peers in
[18:43] <cmaloney> peerless
[18:43] <DrDaemonEye> Of course not!
[18:43] <DrDaemonEye> You doing okay with the snow cmaloney?
[18:44] <brousch__> Too damn cold out
[18:46] <DrDaemonEye> brousch__: agreed.  I wonder who stuck our part of the world into the freezer...
[19:44] <rick_h_> jcastro: yep hiting refresh over and over to go back to TP
[19:46] <cmaloney> Says "Coming Soon"
[19:46] <cmaloney> not sure that's releasing today is it?
[20:00]  * cmaloney is listening to My Woshin Mashin - Killing In The Name (Rage Against The Machine Cover)
[20:15] <brousch__> cmaloney: I made a Go Calculator in Kivy, to help determine the current score of a game https://github.com/brousch/gocalc  http://feralrooster.com:8000/GoCalculator-0.0.2-debug.apk
[20:18] <cmaloney> brousch__: Nice!
[20:18] <brousch__> Hm, I haven't looked at persistence on Android yet
[20:21] <cmaloney> I'm really gettng irritated by Hangouts on my phone
[20:22] <cmaloney> Seems to get into this weird state where everything just starts not working
[20:22] <cmaloney> text area: gone
[20:22] <cmaloney> And the only solution seems to be resetting the phone
[20:23] <brousch__> I have not experienced that
[20:23] <cmaloney> And since this worthless piece of whale-snot decided to converge with my SMS it eats my SMS messages as well
[23:54] <rick_h_> cmaloney: no, the rumor is the new thinkpads will be out 'this month'