[00:00] <ikonia> Yon: just put files in a directory they can both access
[00:00] <ikonia> that simple
[00:00] <Yon> ikonia: been trying to create such a directory sorry ..new
[00:01] <ikonia> Yon: how have you been trying to do this ?
[00:03] <Yon> ikonia:  right click on folder..tried 'local network share' altered permissions etc but ...
[00:03] <ikonia> Yon: thats a network share
[00:03] <ikonia> Yon: nothing to do with shareing files between users
[00:03] <ikonia> Yon: hence the words "local NETWORK share"
[00:04] <ikonia> Yon: just create a directorys on the file system, you'll find the default permissions will probably allow both users to at least read it, add the write permissions mode to it, and you're done
[00:06] <Yon> ikonia: ok but thought presumably it would be accessible   ..that simple huh..thanks
[00:06] <batsazz> I heard suse was buying ubuntu
[00:06] <ikonia> batsazz: you heard wrong
[00:06] <zebba_de> After upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 earlier today I am not able to connect to IRC, FTP or SSH servers. I get connection refused (and similar messages)
[00:06] <ikonia> Yon: it really is that simple,
[00:06] <ikonia> Yon: if you're new https://help.ubuntu.com have a read
[00:09] <TunnelBlick> Hi there :-)
[00:12] <HaCkErZ> hey
[00:12] <HaCkErZ> u guys know some costomization like screenlets
[00:12] <TunnelBlick> hi :-)
[00:12] <TunnelBlick> screenlets ?
[00:13] <HaCkErZ> yea bro
[00:13] <vlt> Hello. I'm running the latest Ubuntu 14.10 but my mplayer doesn't know any -udp-* options. How to fix this?
[00:13] <ikonia> doesn't know any udp options ?
[00:13] <ikonia> what do you mean ?
[00:14] <vlt> ikonia: Running "mplayer -udp-master" for example I get "Unknown option on the command line: --udp-master"
[00:14] <k1l> HaCkErZ: take a look at conky
[00:15] <ikonia> vlt: you have two different options there one with - and one with -- are either of them valid options ?
[00:17] <vlt> ikonia: I get the same error both with --udp... and -udp...
[00:17] <ikonia> vlt: right, are they valid option s?
[00:17] <ikonia> options
[00:17] <ikonia> I don't see anything in the documentation to suggest they are valid
[00:19] <vlt> ikonia: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/networksync.html
[00:19] <bev> how do I get to options in Firefox
[00:20] <k1l> bev: click on the 3 stapled lines icon on the right side.
[00:20] <ikonia> vlt: is that valid in the version you're using ?
[00:21] <bev> ok
[00:21] <vlt> ikonia: That's my question. Or, if not, why not?
[00:22] <ikonia> vlt: maybe worth asking the maplayer guys what versions thats applicable to, and also checking if thats a compile option that has to be enabled
[00:23] <k1l> check the needed compile flags and if that is a standard flag used by ubuntu.
[00:23] <zebba_de> Evening
[00:24] <SchrodingersScat> vlt: syncplay is an option, if you're trying to sync playback.  I've found it more reliable than the built-in of other tools
[00:24] <krokkk> thanks EriC^^, downlaoded mediainfo and i'm checking with a script now :)
[00:24] <krokkk> sadly, i have 193 videos in a folder..
[00:24] <krokkk> o/
[00:25] <vlt> ikonia: Thank you. I found out from the sources that the -udp-* options were added in r32066 2010-09-08.
[00:25] <ikonia> vlt: is your version older than that ?
[00:25] <zebba_de> I upgraded to 14.04 from 12.04 earlier today. While I can browse the web or connect to ICQ I am not able to establish a FTP connection from FileZilla, ssh connections to a remote server nor can I connect Pidgin to Freenode (and probably other networks too): I'm not sure how I can fix this. Ideas?
[00:26] <k1l> !info mplayer
[00:26] <ikonia> zebba_de: where are you trying to make an ftp connection to
[00:26] <zebba_de> ikonia: An FTP-server where I'm pretty sure it's up and running
[00:26] <zebba_de> But it's on the net
[00:26] <SchrodingersScat> !info mplayer2
[00:27] <zebba_de> ufw returns status: inactive
[00:28] <vlt> SchrodingersScat: That'S exactly my version on my system.
[00:28] <vlt> SchrodingersScat: Don't know if this is older than the version from 2010.
[00:29] <SchrodingersScat> vlt: same here.  what's your end goal?
[00:30] <vlt> SchrodingersScat: Control (several) mplayer from a jack transport.
[00:33] <SchrodingersScat> vlt: what's a jack transport?
[00:37] <k1l> vlt: buildlog at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/184059826/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.mplayer2_2.0-728-g2c378c7-2ubuntu3_UPLOADING.txt.gz says it was compiled with "./configure --prefix=/usr --confdir=/etc/mplayer --enable-translation --enable-debug=3  --enable-runtime-cpudetection"
[00:37] <HaCkErZ> Kool K1k
[00:38] <Yon> Hmm..still struggling with setting up a share folder between admin and standard users...sorry new...can anyone spell this out for me?
[00:38] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: depends on how you want it to work.
[00:38] <HaCkErZ> u guys know how to make ubuntu faster
[00:38] <SchrodingersScat> Use it on a train?
[00:38] <anti-unix> hi
[00:39] <HaCkErZ> answer my question
[00:39] <Yon> I've created a group and have relaxed permissions on a folder but then not sure how to access it from standard user account
[00:40] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: what other ways are there?
[00:40] <HaCkErZ> any one on facebook
[00:40] <vlt> SchrodingersScat: http://jackaudio.org/files/docs/html/transport-design.html
[00:41] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: I've created a group and have relaxed permissions on a folder but then not sure how to access it from standard user account
[00:41] <HaCkErZ> halla guys anyone on fb
[00:42] <ikonia> HaCkErZ: whats the issue ?
[00:42] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: cd to the directory?  you could also symlink with ln -s to somewhere in their /home/ to make it easier to find.
[00:42] <HaCkErZ> want some kool apps
[00:42] <HaCkErZ> for like coustomize
[00:43] <ikonia> HaCkErZ: for what purpose ?
[00:43] <ikonia> HaCkErZ: what is it you actually need/want
[00:43] <owen1> nopf: i solved the xdg-open issue - :%s/firefox.desktop/chromium-browser.desktop/g  in .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[00:43] <HaCkErZ> apps to enhance the look on my pc
[00:44] <ikonia> HaCkErZ: have a search and find some you like,
[00:45] <HaCkErZ> here it has tons of ppl tell me some plz
[00:45] <ikonia> depends what you need/want
[00:45] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: Still gotta learn how bash works exactly..is there a gnome method for now ?
[00:46] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: not sure
[00:46] <athene_noctua> hi, I'm on ubuntu 14.04. I am curious about why I don't see my wlan0 int in /etc/network/interfaces but it is active. any help or pointing in the right direction to figure that out?
[00:46] <ikonia> athene_noctua: the network should not be configured through the interfaces file, it's controlled by network manager
[00:47] <athene_noctua> ikonia: makes sense, is the loopback int still handled by interfaces file?
[00:47] <athene_noctua> ikonia: I see it as the only line in there, why I'm asking.
[00:47] <ikonia> athene_noctua: yes as it's not a real interface file
[00:47] <ikonia> athene_noctua: sorry, not a real interface
[00:47] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: ok so what would a complete commend line look like?...sorry
[00:47] <athene_noctua> right, a pseudo interface
[00:47] <Yon> *command
[00:48] <athene_noctua> ikonia: so, I could view my active interfaces within the Network Managers configuration files? in /etc or some such?
[00:48] <ikonia> athene_noctua: it's not a file - it's in the network managers interface
[00:48] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: ln -s /foo/bar /home/user/bar
[00:49] <andrej_> I have two servers that were iniitally installed from LTS 12.04.1 server ... they always get patched at the same time
[00:49] <athene_noctua> ikonia: ok, thanks much for the info.
[00:49] <andrej_> One deciuded to start showing You have packages from the Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) installed that
[00:49] <andrej_> are going out of support on 2014-08-07.
[00:49] <andrej_> which package would be causing that?
[00:50] <k1l> andrej_: which kernel in use?
[00:50] <Yon> SchrodingersScat:  so foo and bar are substitutions aswell as user?
[00:50] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: correct.
[00:51] <skweek> hey yon, do you know how to configure a usb to ethernet adaptor that displays as being connected in lsusb but doesn't show up as eth0 after ifconfig?
[00:51] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: location of the real directory followed by where you want the new link.
[00:51] <EriC^^> skweek: ifconfig eth0 down , maybe?
[00:52] <skweek> EriC^^, Iduno, would you think there wouldn't be automatic detection?
[00:52] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: foo=real bar=new link location?
[00:53] <EriC^^> skweek: if you ifconfig down it, it won't show up in ifconfig -a, i think
[00:53] <EriC^^> skweek: i'm not so sure about this stuff, that's all i know
[00:54] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: not sure what you're asking, give it a try though.
[00:54] <EriC^^> skweek: nevermind, it still shows
[00:54] <andrej_> 3.2.0-70-generic
[00:54] <EriC^^> skweek: it shows in ifconfig -a, but not in ifconfig
[00:54] <k1l> andrej_: on botj?
[00:54] <k1l> *both
[00:54] <andrej_> Sorry for delayed response, got sidetracked
[00:55] <andrej_> k11 yes
[00:55] <EriC^^> skweek: what are you trying to achieve?
[00:55] <anti-unix> witch is better mate xfce?
[00:55] <andrej_>  3.2.0-70-generic #105-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 24 19:49:16 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ... both machines
[00:55] <k1l> anti-unix: try both and decide yourselv. other people have oher opinions what is needed
[00:56] <rypervenche> anti-unix: There is no "better". Each has its pros and cons.
[00:56] <skweek> load ethernet adaptor by usb
[00:56] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: just confirming that 'foo' was the substitution for the real directory to be shared and that 'bar' was the substitution for the new link location where a standard user has access?
[00:56] <anti-unix> k1l, what is the difference between mate and xfce?
[00:57] <EriC^^> skweek: oh ok
[00:57] <EriC^^> skweek: try ifconfig -a
[00:57] <k1l> anti-unix: they are different desktop enviroments with differen bases
[00:57] <EriC^^> is it there?
[00:57] <anti-unix> k1l, fine
[00:57] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: bar was also real, you can change what the link is called, but I made it the same to show that you can link between two locations.
[00:57] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: then there would be the real /foo/bar/ and a /home/user/bar/
[00:58] <skweek> ifconfig -a only lists lo and wlan0, I see the device information from lsusb
[00:58] <EriC^^> skweek: maybe it needs a driver?
[01:00] <k1l> andrej_: please show a "dpkg -l | grep lts | grep ii"
[01:00] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: ok..now confused sorry.. so I have an existing folder i want to share..is that folder  foo or bar?
[01:01] <EriC^^> skweek: check dmesg maybe
[01:01] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: bar
[01:02] <skweek> if it does I think that I'll need to make one, I just couldn't locate one online
[01:03] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: and then foo is ..?
[01:03] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: a parent directory
[01:05] <andrej_> ii  libcommon-sense-perl               3.4-1                                                  module that implements some sane defaults for Perl programs
[01:05] <andrej_> ii  libsigsegv2                        2.9-4ubuntu2                                           Library for handling page faults in a portable way
[01:05] <andrej_> Just those two lines
[01:07] <zebba_de> Any idea why I can browse the web and connect to ICQ using Pidgin but why I would be unable to connect to IRC servers (like freenode), SSH servers or FTP servers? I upgraded to 14.04 from 12.04 earlier today and just realized that I can't connect. I ran ufw status (inactive) and iptables (6 lines, nothing that would suggest it could cause a problem). I'd be glad if somebody had another idea on what to look for.
[01:08] <rypervenche> zebba_de: And it was working before on that machine?
[01:08] <zebba_de> Yes rypervenche
[01:08] <cryptodan> what servers?
[01:08] <rypervenche> zebba_de: What client are you using, what server, and what error/s are you getting?
[01:09] <zebba_de> I'm trying to connect to my VPS and get connection refused. That is roughly the same message I recieve from FileZilla and Pidgin too
[01:09] <k1l> andrej_: see this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL
[01:09] <cryptodan> zebba_de: was a full wipe or did you save stuff from /home?
[01:10] <k1l> andrej_: my guess was some non lts kernel but that is fine. see if hwe-support-status shows some more.
[01:10] <rypervenche> zebba_de: Try to telnet the IP and port of your IRC client from that machine and see if that works.
[01:10] <zebba_de> rypervenche: Tried that, didn't work
[01:10] <zebba_de> cryptodan: The upgrade did not wipe out the hdd
[01:11] <cryptodan> zebba_de: could be a corrupted upgrade
[01:11] <rypervenche> zebba_de: Sounds like a problem with your VPS then. You need to make sure nothing changed on it or you're not being blocked by either the VPS or your provider.
[01:11] <cryptodan> zebba_de: all I can say is use a livecd and see if you can ssh to those servers
[01:12] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: home is a parent directory?
[01:12] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: yep
[01:13] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: yet the home folder is different for each user....hmm
[01:14] <zebba_de> rypervenche: I can rule that out since I can connect from the laptop just fine
[01:14] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: right, /home/ contains the homes for all the users
[01:16] <skweek> so I'm wondering if anyone can point me towards troubleshooting ethernet and usb to ethernet
[01:17] <hakim> does anyone know why i dont have the option to zoom in the file manager that opens when attaching pictures to an email using Gmail in a browser (no ctrl + or ctrl scroll doesnt work there)
[01:17] <wilh> Can anyone help me quick with aptitude? Not sure if I am doing something wrong or if it is a bug - http://askubuntu.com/questions/568934/aptitude-is-unmarking-packages-as-auto-is-this-a-bug-or-feature
[01:18] <bubbasaures> skweek, Describe the issue for help including hardware.
[01:20] <hakim> does anyone know why i dont have the option to zoom in the file manager that opens when attaching pictures to an email using Gmail in a browser (no ctrl + or ctrl scroll doesnt work there)
[01:21] <andrej_> thanks k11
[01:21] <skweek> usb 2.0 10/100m ethernet adaptor idvendor=0fe6 idproduct=9702 gigaware ethernet adaptor Kontron (Industrial Computer Source / ICS Advent), I just want to plug it in and see it listed as eth0 ifconfig or ifconfig -a on my lenovo miix 2 11 which doesn't have an ethernet port
[01:23] <skweek> is that enough information? lsusub lists it present dmesg shows its connection details, I couldn't locate a linux driver...
[01:23] <bubbasaures> wilh, Packages have dependencies and they are attached, as you address them you link them.
[01:23] <obXiDeJSFQ> Quick question guys:- Where do I find WiFi-related logs on Ubuntu?
[01:24] <wilh> bubbasaures: Thanks, but, I get that - what I don't get is that the ones marked as automatic are automatically getting unmarked... so, autoremove doesn't work and I have a bunch of things installed I don't need...
[01:24] <bubbasaures> skweek, So it does not plug and work in ubuntu, does it in another OS?
[01:26] <bubbasaures> wilh, You canceled pending this unhitches the package links, had you run a remove than autoremove would work, better yet run purge to remove most of it.
[01:26] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: dmesg
[01:27] <bubbasaures> skweek, You are imagining what might happen it seems to me not an actual event.
[01:27] <owen1> what is a good screencast app? (i am ok with no audio. i'll record the audio separately)
[01:27] <skweek> I have to assume it will since it's off the shelf and lights up as all is well brand new and such... I suppose testing it out on someone elses computer is an option.... but it seams like it would be superfluous
[01:28] <bubbasaures> skweek, superfluous, really, let me see you have a not working usb unit and you don't know enough to get just working and come here.
[01:29] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: ok, so getting the idea...maybe..so that would give anyone who has access to the parent directory (say /home/) access to that file ..correct?
[01:29] <skweek> so would you like me to reconnect it again and check the devices on each end of the ethernet cable for connectivity?
[01:30] <SchrodingersScat> Yon: no, it doesn't change the permissions of the directory, you're just creating a link for a directory.
[01:30] <skweek> I can do it again but it does seam superfluous
[01:31] <daftykins> skweek: pastebin "dmesg | tail" after plugging it in.
[01:34] <skweek> would the 'dmesg | tail' plugged into an access point on one end and a computer on the other be better than just 'dmesg | tail' with it connected only usb ethernet adaptor to computer?
[01:35] <skweek> http://pastebin.com/index/dGhq39Eh
[01:41] <skweek> would adding the NIC's MAC to /ect/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules using nano and rebooted?
[01:42] <squeegily_> I have an Acer Aspire One 751h.. Trying to play MP3s with VLC, MPlayer, or Parole on Ubuntu doesn't work (it's extremely scratchy and laggy), but the same MP3 plays without a hiccup on the included Windows XP installation
[01:50] <bubbasaures> squeegily_, Have you tried any lighter desktops?
[01:51] <squeegily_> bubbasaures: I tried it from the VT without a DE running and still got the same results
[01:52] <jef_> hello everyone
[01:52] <daftykins> hi
[01:52] <skweek> hey yon, would you happen to know a way around detecting ethernet from a usb device?
[01:53] <bubbasaures> squeegily_, I have one of those, even with 2 gigs ram it is a slow little beast, not sure on the audio, might be related not sure.
[01:53] <daftykins> squeegily_: there's no way a Linux installation would be THAT bad, are you running a live session to test this? netbooks really should just be buried at this point. they were terrible on release, now it's 2015.
[01:53] <bubbasaures> squeegily_, I put a ssd in and it was still slow, heh
[01:54] <squeegily_> daftykins: I can't even play xvid-encoded video on the framebuffer with mplayer
[01:54] <daftykins> bubbasaures: probably multiplied its' value by 10 ;)
[01:54] <squeegily_> I am suspecting serious problems
[01:54] <bubbasaures> daftykins, True, it's a backup, "gotta support the team"
[01:54] <daftykins> squeegily_: err, that's a lot different than just mp3. so will you answer whether it's live or not? also, which flavour OS?
[01:55] <Yon> SchrodingersScat: Ok so did ln -s /home/Share Folder /home/ethan/Share Folder  and got ln: target ‘Folder’ is not a directory ....target being the original file location?
[01:55] <retroispresto> are ubuntu alpha's and beta's officially supported, because i know ubuntu daily images aren't supported officially
[01:55] <squeegily_> daftykins: Oh, forgot to mention. It's a real installation of Xubuntu
[01:55] <Ben64> retroispresto: only released releases are supported here
[01:55] <squeegily_> It's a dual-boot
[01:55] <retroispresto> Ben64: i mean by ubuntu
[01:56] <daftykins> squeegily_: 14.04? does a live session do the same? wonder if the NAND is going funny, if it has an old SSD
[01:56] <retroispresto> on canchoial is supporting daily images. ubuntu doesn't
[01:56] <k1l> retroispresto: what do you mean exactly?
[01:56] <Ben64> retroispresto: i don't think ubuntu supports anything unless you pay
[01:57] <squeegily_> daftykins: The thing has an HDD (non-SSD) and I had the same results on 14.04 and 14.10
[01:57] <retroispresto> makes sense, thanks
[01:57] <daftykins> squeegily_: right and what's there now?
[01:57] <squeegily_> daftykins: Right now there's a dual-boot Xubuntu 14.04 LTS and Windows XP
[01:58] <PistonHondo> I'm using Clonezilla on Parted Magic to back up a /home partition...but I keep getting the error "Illegal block number passed to ext2fs_test_block_bitmap #3553371641 for multiply claimed block map" over and over.  I think Clonezilla might be in an infinite loop.  What do I do?
[01:58] <daftykins> squeegily_: i think i've read of a few regressions in the kernel with reference to the nasty chipset in those netbooks, so it might just be a sign of the times. 12.04.5 is still good for a couple more years, though
[01:58] <BigBawb> hello friends :P my linux wifi adapter has finally arrived!
[01:58] <PistonHondo> (Oh, that /home partition is for Ubuntu)
[01:58] <daftykins> BigBawb: nice, come back when you have a question
[01:59] <skweeke3> does anyone know how to load an ethernet device
[01:59] <BigBawb> ok...
[01:59] <bazhang> sudo ifup eth0 skweeke3
[01:59] <skweeke3> no ethernet found
[02:00] <squeegily_> daftykins: Is there any way to put the 12.04 kernel on 14.04?
[02:00] <bazhang> what does ifconfig show skweeke3
[02:00] <daftykins> squeegily_: pretty sure bad stuff would happen
[02:02] <squeegily_> What's the expiration date on 12.04?
[02:02] <squeegily_> 2016?
[02:02] <skweeke3> lo and wlan
[02:02] <k1l> squeegily_: 5 years
[02:02] <Yon> Hi everyone, trying set up a share folder between admin and standard users and on the advice of  SchrodingersScat -who seems to have left the building- I did ln -s /home/Share Folder /home/ethan/Share Folder  and got ln: target ‘Folder’ is not a directory ...I'm new to this so leaning on Gnome at this stage and the folder is under home in gnome...so ..can anyone give me a steer?
[02:03] <daftykins> Yon: pretty bad place to put it, read "man ln" for what you're doing wrong with that symlink attempt.
[02:03] <daftykins> Yon: also, never use capitals or spaces in Linux paths, it's simply a terrible idea
[02:04] <daftykins> you're not in Windows anymore, Dorothy :)
[02:04] <squeegily_> Yay 12.04 lasts till 2017
[02:04] <squeegily_> I'll try that then
[02:04] <squeegily_> Thanks for the suggestion
[02:04] <Stanley00> Yon: you for got the quote (") there, it should be ln -s "/home/Share Folder" "...."
[02:04]  * zykotick9 hands daftykins some "double quotes" or\ another\ alternative\ ;)
[02:05] <Yon> daftykins: right..clearly have a lot to learn..cheers
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[02:05] <Yon> Stanley00: thanks
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[02:07] <obXiDeJSFQ> Okay, so, I just installed Ubuntu, but now it's throwing GPG errors whenever I try to install VIM. I googled the errors and people's solutions are basically "Oh, just run this command as root which will download a GPG key and trust it"... no. Is there any reason why the official Ubuntu installer didn't install "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing key"?
[02:08] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: pastebin of the scenario or we can't do anything
[02:08] <zacarias> Hi. I want to burn subtitles (using ffmpeg) onto a mpeg file, which has a birate of around 2200 kbps. But if I just use the default options (ffmpeg -i video.avi -vf subtitles=subtitle.srt out.avi) I get a low-quality video with a bitrate of around 900 kbps. How should I do this?
[02:08] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: >W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:08] <obXiDeJSFQ> from `apt-get update`
[02:08] <daftykins> you realise dapper is...
[02:08] <daftykins> !dapper
[02:09] <daftykins> 6 years dead? :)
[02:09] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: give us a "cat /etc/issue"
[02:09] <Quoexl> my mailserver is still dapper
[02:09] <obXiDeJSFQ> Yeah, my mistake, I pulled that off a '08 post because the actual computer I'm running doesn't have perfect networking yet (See:- WiFi issues)
[02:09] <Quoexl> it still works
[02:09] <obXiDeJSFQ> It's trusty.
[02:09] <obXiDeJSFQ> Give me a minute and I'll physically pull it off the machine via USB
[02:09] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: i see, so you deliberately misled me. nice :)
[02:10] <daftykins> Quoexl: i'm not even going to start on how idiotic that is
[02:10] <ki7rw> anything like this available for linux? http://www.usatoday.com/videos/tech/2015/01/04/21268479/
[02:10] <Quoexl> its got 3 addresses on it, so wat?
[02:10] <k1l> Quoexl: dont advise to run EOL version. that is malicious
[02:10] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/2af89d46
[02:12] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: so you're saying you refuse to follow the advice in say; http://askubuntu.com/questions/1877/what-is-the-easiest-way-to-resolve-apt-get-badsig-gpg-errors ?
[02:14] <cryptodan> ki7rw: http://mattterrabyte.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/log-in-using-your-webcam-linux/
[02:16] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: First off, that would do nothing because that'd be pulling 0x54422A4B98AB5139, not 0x40976EAF437D05B5, which is what I'm having issues with, two, I'm a little skeptical of why my brand new Ubuntu installation has already, in less than a few minutes, lost track of one of Cononical's master signing keys.
[02:17] <cryptodan> you copy and replace the example with your bad key obXiDeJSFQ
[02:17] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: maybe give it another read
[02:19] <obXiDeJSFQ> Side note:- Found a blog that recommended I wipe out my /var/lib/apt/lists directory, then it worked fine, my assumption is that apt will still be verifying those package's signatures.
[02:19] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: I just did, nothing about _why_, only _what_ to do.
[02:20] <blackangelpr> cryptodan, the same thing happened to me i solved with YPPA Manager
[02:20] <obXiDeJSFQ> Unless I'm blind, which, may be a possibility, in which case, I'm legitimately sorry.
[02:20] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: oh, is a solution not sufficient?
[02:21] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: When the solution is importing GPG keys to be ultimately trusted by my computer, not really. If it was adjusting the volume, yes.
[02:22] <daftykins> ah ok, well i don't know enough about the topic to explain i'm afraid - i just would feel fine with getting updated keys from a keyserver under the control of Canonical.
[02:22] <obXiDeJSFQ> But you know, I want to make sure what I'm doing isn't malicious, so, what the hell, I'm the asshole here. Just run all the commands as root!
[02:22] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: The keyserver is public, literally anyone can upload a key to that server.
[02:22] <daftykins> right but you're picking a specific one...
[02:23] <WillW> Hey all! Like an idiot, I installed gnome-desktop over ubuntu-desktop a few months ago, and while i fixed most of the problems, not everything is resolved. When I click shutdown, it doesn't bring up the shutdown menu. When i open the laptop lid, and log in, i get logged out once and have to log in again.
[02:23] <WillW> Any advice on how to fix these?
[02:23] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: maybe your install went funny because you weren't properly online when you put it on? can't say i've ever had an issue of that kind
[02:23] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: Possibly that.
[02:24] <daftykins> so you could just re-do it, if it's clean? up to you really
[02:25] <HaCkErZ> TBH Which Is The Best Linux Distro And Is Linux Mint Far Better Than Ubuntu
[02:25] <daftykins> !best
[02:25] <daftykins> gah, deletions left right and centre
[02:25] <daftykins> there is no such thing as best, there's only what works for you - try something out, see if you like it
[02:25] <WillW> ^
[02:25] <k1l> HaCkErZ: its ubuntu (since you ask in #ubuntu)
[02:25] <bazhang> HaCkErZ, ubuntu is supported here MINT Is not
[02:26] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: I doubt it'll stay online again, having issues with my wireless card ('14e4:4727') which apparently isn't supported under Linux.
[02:26] <cryptodan> obXiDeJSFQ: try using wired when performing a fresh install
[02:26] <daftykins> got a chipset rather than a device ID? :)
[02:27] <HaCkErZ> kool draftykins and bazang thank for the reply so far my fave is ubuntu but now downloading mint 17.1
[02:27] <obXiDeJSFQ> cryptodan: I would, but I see no obvious signs of corruption, if you _really_ think it'd help, I would, but, eh...
[02:27] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: BCM4313, but there are two cards with apparently the same name.
[02:27] <WillW> I just got here, but has the guy with wifi card problems turned off power saver mode in some text file somewhere?
[02:27] <WillW> cause thats a thing in ubuntu
[02:28] <HaCkErZ> is it alright to use indecent laungage here
[02:28] <obXiDeJSFQ> WillW: Only configuration file I touched was to re-enable hibernation, but, I was having issues with the WiFi card during the installation again (Mass logging of 'invalid MAC').
[02:29] <WillW> HaCkErZ: Not really, sparingly at best
[02:29] <HaCkErZ> any good docks
[02:29] <WillW> obXiDeJSFQ: OK, that's not the wifi issue i'm more familiar with, can't help
[02:31] <squeegily_> Wow it was a lot harder than I expected, finding a 12.04.1 ISO
[02:32] <teward> squeegily_: have you considered just checking on the cd images mirror
[02:32] <squeegily_> It turns out that versions higher than 12.04.1 automatically come with the newer kernel
[02:32] <squeegily_> teward: I ended up finding http://hex1a4.net/mirror/xubuntu/releases/12.04/release/
[02:32] <WillW> squeegily_: that doesnt seem legit
[02:32] <squeegily_> The outdated images aren't on the cdimage.ubuntu.com
[02:32] <WillW> squeegily_: wait no nvm
[02:32] <daftykins> only 12.04.5 would come with POSSIBLY the trusty kernel 3.13 as default, seems suspicious
[02:33] <squeegily_> WillW: I couldn't find any more legitimate looking mirrors
[02:33] <squeegily_> daftykins: From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack "anyone installing and wishing to remain on the original 12.04 stack to please install from the 12.04.0 or 12.04.1 media"
[02:34] <daftykins> fair enough, not seen that before
[02:34] <squeegily_> The newer stack is included by default in the installer from 12.04.2+
[02:34] <squeegily_> I just really hope this fixes it
[02:34] <rww> squeegily_: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/
[02:35] <daftykins> squeegily_: if not, friends don't let friends netbook ;)
[02:35] <squeegily_> That's funny because I got this from a friend for free
[02:35] <daftykins> he/she wanted rid :(
[02:36] <squeegily_> daftykins: Tis the case
[02:36] <daftykins> squeegily_: oh before you go to that effort though, it'd be handy to just check the SMART info - "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then "sudo smarctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[02:36] <squeegily_> When I'm booting it it gives a warning about unknown BIOS version and tells me to report it
[02:37] <squeegily_> daftykins: Wait so pastebinit is actually a real command??
[02:37] <squeegily_> I thought it was just a funny way to tell people to pastebin the output
[02:37] <k1l> !pastebinit | squeegily_
[02:37] <squeegily_> What should I check the hard drive for?
[02:38] <daftykins> squeegily_: hehe
[02:38] <squeegily_> What I mean to say is why am I checking the hard drive?
[02:38] <daftykins> squeegily_: running what i shared will do what i want to see
[02:38] <daftykins> squeegily_: well, it's just a total guess - but i have a habit of sniffing out failed ones. Doesn't hurt for how easy the above commands are, to check
[02:39] <daftykins> i'm sure it's fine but at least it'd save you going to too much more effort if it were a waste of time
[02:41] <WillW> Aside from my earlier problem I have a new challenge: I want to synchronize select folders on my laptop and desktop, whenever both are connected to the network and the folders are accessible. One of the folders is also a porn folder and I don't want that publically accessible on the network. What sync programs does #ubuntu recommend?
[02:41] <daftykins> !rsync
[02:41] <squeegily_> WillW: I'd say probably Dropbox
[02:41] <squeegily_> Dropbox + eCryptFS if you're really worried
[02:41] <WillW> ty dafty
[02:41] <squeegily_> Symlinks are your friend in this case
[02:42] <WillW> squeeg, dropbox isnt p2p, i'm really just looking for local syncing
[02:42] <squeegily_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9674513
[02:42] <squeegily_> daftykins: Whoops http://paste.ubuntu.com/9674517
[02:45] <daftykins> squeegily_: ok nope, that disk looks fine. was worth a look though :)
[02:50] <squeegily_> Where can I find Xubuntu old releases?
[02:51] <daftykins> squeegily_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/ ?
[02:52] <daftykins> hmm only .4 by the looks
[02:52] <daftykins> ho-hum
[02:52] <squeegily_> daftykins: They don't have 12.04.1
[02:52] <squeegily_> Hmm
[02:52] <andy__> hi
[02:52] <daftykins> well, thing is it really isn't that hard to revert
[02:52] <squeegily_> I'm probably safe with a Torrent but I'm still a tiny bit suspicious of hex1a4.net
[02:53] <andy__> I just tried icewm
[02:53] <andy__> It does not work so well
[02:53] <squeegily_> Only 2 people are seeding it though.. I'm not sure if it's because it's a fake release or just old
[02:53] <daftykins> i would certainly get off of old releases
[02:54] <squeegily_> I found an official md5sum at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/12.04/release/xubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.metalink so I'll probably just check the torrented ISO
[02:54] <squeegily_> I will die if this doesn't fix it
[02:55] <squeegily_> Because then my 2 options will be: 1) no media on the laptop on all or 2) use Windows
[02:55] <squeegily_> Both of which are relatively horrifying
[02:56] <andy__> You can use Windows if you want.
[02:56] <andy__> It will not kill you.
[02:56] <daftykins> not XP no, it's dead.
[02:57] <daftykins> nothing newer works on netbooks that old
[02:57] <squeegily_> XP is best Windows though
[02:57] <daftykins> s/that old//
[02:57] <daftykins> no it's really not, lets not talk off topic too, please :)
[02:58] <squeegily_> What search terms should I start with to look up information on this regression?
[02:58] <andy__> which regression?
[02:58] <daftykins> it's not official by any means, just a hunch i had when a lot of peeps were coming in with poulsbo issues
[02:59] <daftykins> mostly graphical
[02:59] <squeegily_> andy__: The video and audio not working on Linux
[02:59] <andy__> It works fine for me in Xubuntu.
[02:59] <daftykins> well you gotta caveat a statement like that squeegily_ ;) on a crappy acer netbook, is what is meant there.
[02:59] <daftykins> andy__: you're kinda coming in late on this one y'see :)
[02:59] <squeegily_> The most powerful computer I've ever owned was a Pentium 4
[03:00] <squeegily_> So I'm just happy to get what I can
[03:00] <daftykins> that's... horrible
[03:00] <andy__> I am testing icewm, and only a few programs work under it without a lot of configuration.
[03:00] <squeegily_> If I can ever make it work
[03:01] <andy__> xeyes and this chat program work, so far.
[03:01] <andy__> This is my first time on this chat network.
[03:01] <andy__> So, sorry for coming in late.
[03:02] <daftykins> andy__: probably a good time i mention that this is a support only channel then, for questions - #ubuntu-offtopic for the chat aspect
[03:02] <Yon> anyone know what the executable for supertux in  /usr/bin/ is called?
[03:02] <curiousx> andy__: Welcome to this chat network, i'll be your guide
[03:03] <daftykins> Yon: "find /usr/bin/ -name super"  ?
[03:04] <squeegily_> LOL http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook now redirects to http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[03:05] <squeegily_> I guess their claims of the newer versions being "faster than ever" can't fix the bloat
[03:05] <Yon> daftykins: yeah..i have it installed but the executable must have a different name....find /usr/bin/ -name super: No such file or directory....?
[03:06] <daftykins> hmm, not sure on how to check what files are in a package
[03:06] <daftykins> squeegily_: well, bloat factored in... you're still polishing a turd - if you'll excuse my language ;)
[03:07] <Stanley00> Yon: try "dpkg -L supertux | grep bin" or supertux
[03:07] <squeegily_> daftykins: Wait are you saying that improvements on Ubuntu are polishing a turd or that trying to get this thing running is the turd polishing?
[03:08] <andy__> I just found this chatroom by clicking on a menu on icewm.
[03:08] <daftykins> squeegily_: the latter :D
[03:08] <daftykins> !ot | andy__ ok, but as warned please bear in mind...
[03:09] <Webflashing> Hi! Is it possible to disable the menu that appears on Ubuntu Gnome when you take the mouse to the bottom? That kind of message tray or something (Im new here )
[03:09] <Webflashing> I just want to disable the hotspot but still be able to access it by pressing Win + M
[03:10] <Yon> Stanley00: dpkg -L supertux | grep bin: command not found
[03:11] <daychilde> Halp. I'm running xubuntu... was advised to try xmonad, which I did. Not for me, so I uninstalled. Now I have.... no window manager? everything opens at top left of desktop and I can't move them - no window bar at the top. :(
[03:11] <daftykins> daychilde: log out and pick the xfce session from the login screen?
[03:11] <daychilde> I backed up ~/.config and restored
[03:11] <andy__> But I do have a question.
[03:11] <daychilde> Lemme do it again to make sure I have, but I think I have daftykins
[03:12] <Stanley00> Yon: you should try run supertux first. If it not work, try run "dpkg -L supertux | grep bin" without the quote (") :3
[03:13] <squeegily_> If the 12.04.1 kernel doesn't work.. would you guys have any recommendations?
[03:14] <Yon> Stanley00: yeah, sorry dude...it does run it but supertux doesn't seem to be in bin?
[03:14] <daychilde> daftykins: I think I may have borked it from being new at Linux. Logging into either session causes problem, so I might not have properly saved a good one..... :::::::::::::::/
[03:14] <daychilde> ;oops, sorry, bluetooth keyboard and hit enter instead of backspace
[03:15] <daftykins> daychilde: try making a new user
[03:15] <daychilde> k, thanks
[03:15] <daftykins> or test the guest session
[03:15] <Stanley00> Yon: your find command earlier actually wrong. it should be "find /usr/bin -name 'super*'", but if you can run supertux, run command "which supertux" would be faster
[03:16] <daychilde> daftykins: guest works - can I copy that config somehow without losing all my user stuff?
[03:16] <daftykins> Stanley00: good call, silly me didn't remember the *
[03:16] <daftykins> daychilde: it'd be more about removing your own, one sec
[03:17] <daychilde> I'm patient, thanks :)
[03:18] <daftykins> daychilde: the "nuke it from orbit" approach would be to "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" and then log out and in, but if you can google where xfce keeps its' config, it might be easier to just move that folder
[03:18] <daychilde> daftykins: thanks, that gives me a direction in which to head :)
[03:18] <Yon> Stanley00: find /usr/bin -name 'supertux*': No such file or directory
[03:19] <daftykins> daychilde: no problemo, i'd do more but i've just fired up a TV episode \o/
[03:19] <Stanley00> Yon: how about "which supertux" ?
[03:19] <oeri> anyone here gifted in opcode/assembly that could help me out with debugging a binary?
[03:19] <Yon> Stanley00: which supertux: command not found
[03:20] <Stanley00> Yon: without the quote please :3
[03:20] <squeegily_> .join #lxle
[03:20] <squeegily_> oops
[03:21] <Yon> Stanley00: Thank You! found it.
[03:21] <Stanley00> oeri: is that relate to ubuntu? I think no :3 there's ##asm here :3
[03:21] <oeri> nice! thx
[03:21] <Stanley00> Yon: np :3
[03:22] <daychilde> daftykins: nuking from orbit worked. heh. Thanks. Not that it matters, but is at ~/.config/xfce4, logically enough. :)
[03:22] <Bashing-om> daychilde: The directory where Xfce stores the configurations of the panel is " /home/user/.config/xfce4/panel/ " Just erasing it and loging out and in will restore the defaults configurations that your distro ships in.
[03:22] <daychilde> Ah, shit, correction, it reset xfce, but still no window controls
[03:24] <daychilde> Maybe... maybe I should try unisntallng and reinstalling xfce? Part of my problem is I don't understand very well the various levels of the OS. heh
[03:25] <daychilde> Or maybe nuke my user?
[03:25] <daychilde> meh. Sucks either way, but obviously have to fix the problem...
[03:25] <bubbasaures> daychilde, You could install say lubuntu while you figure it out than remove it, save the install list.
[03:26] <daychilde> bubbasaures: thanks, will give it a go.
[03:26] <bubbasaures> daychilde, Most of it is already there just a few more apps will load
[03:29] <Bashing-om> daychilde: Try: xfce4-panel --quit , pkill xfconfd , rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel , rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml , run xfce4-panel . This clears it for the running session, regenerates the files, and sets up the default for future sessions.
[03:31] <guest-XfHIxt> I did something to my Ubuntu setup.
[03:34] <teward> guest-XfHIxt: no details or information means we can't help - we aren't psychic.  what exactly are you seeing, what are you expecting to happen, etc.
[03:34] <guest-XfHIxt> I typed in service lightdm stop.
[03:34] <guest-XfHIxt> Then I typed startx icewm
[03:37] <ksmutthu> hey all
[03:37] <ksmutthu> Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
[03:37] <daychilde> Bashing-om: just saw, thanks will try
[03:38] <ksmutthu> Any clue on that
[03:38] <FSK405C> so it turns out installing 14.x on a macbook pro 2010  without a working dvd  is about one week’s worth of work easier than I thought it was =p
[03:38] <ksmutthu> sudo find /run/lock
[03:38] <ksmutthu> /run/lock
[03:38] <ksmutthu> /run/lock/apache2
[03:38] <ksmutthu> /run/lock/lvm
[03:39] <ksmutthu> I see the folder is there and is owned by www-data
[03:39] <daychilde> WTF. All I did was create two new users and my original broken one just started working after I istalled xfswitch-panel which quick-switches users.... doh
[03:39] <guest-XfHIxt> That allowed me to test icewm.
[03:39] <guest-XfHIxt> Once I was done I typed sudo /usr/sbin/lightdm stop, and xubuntu came up again.
[03:39] <guest-XfHIxt> I tried the same thing a second time, and messed up my settings.
[03:40] <FSK405C> brittle, imo
[03:40] <ksmutthu> have anyone faced this and can give a hand?
[03:42] <guest-XfHIxt> FSK405C, were you answering my question, or commenting on something else?
[03:42] <FSK405C> guest-XfHIxt: A little bit of both, actually.
[03:42] <guest-XfHIxt> FSK405C, (Is this a PM in this chat program?)
[03:43] <FSK405C> no sir
[03:43] <FSK405C> still a public comment
[03:45] <guest-XfHIxt> FSK405C, (Oh well.)
[03:46] <FSK405C> try something along the lines of /msg username message for a private message, if needs be. its the generic irc syntax, but most clients support it :)
[03:46] <FSK405C> well most I’ve used anyways
[03:51] <xS1mple> Hi all, I'm still having trouble with getting a shell script to run with cron under root crontab -e, syntax: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9674736/, the job is running according to /var/log/syslog but it does not write any files like the script is supposed to. Script has been tested and working if called manually under root user.
[03:53] <guest-XfHIxt> Is this chatroom for technical questions, or is it for general questions about Ubuntu?
[03:53] <daychilde> Looks like my user isn'lt launching xfwm4 by default, so I guess I need to add that to startup...
[03:53] <NegativeFlare> guest-XfHIxt: Depends on the question.
[03:53] <FSK405C> O
[03:53] <FSK405C> I’ve seen both
[03:54] <NegativeFlare> Just ask, and find out ;)
[03:54] <michael_j_p> Anyone use Snes9x emulator on 14.04 ?  I can only get it to work on 12.04,x
[03:54] <FSK405C> re: questions of a general and technical nature, mostly technical but - what one man’s idea of technical is, etc
[03:54] <xS1mple> anyone have any thoughts on my crontab question?
[03:54] <NegativeFlare> michael_j_p: no, but ZSNES works like a breeze
[03:55] <somsip> xS1mple: probably environmentl variables not being picked up by cron. Can you paste the backup.sh script?
[03:55] <guest-XfHIxt> xS1mple, sorry it seems to advanced for me right now.
[03:55] <michael_j_p> NegativeFlare - have they ironed out the problem with ZSNES where it freezes around 35 minutes
[03:55] <xS1mple> somsip: yep, sec
[03:56] <NegativeFlare> michael_j_p: you shouldn't have had that problem to begin with. I've worked on the code for ZSNES, and I've never seen that problem.
[03:56] <FSK405C> egads
[03:56] <FSK405C> emulator programmers
[03:57] <xS1mple> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9674758/ (removed sensitive info)
[03:57] <michael_j_p> Thanks NegativeFlare.  I will give it another try.  I wonder why SNES doesn't have the download option in the software center for a few weeks now
[03:57] <guest-XfHIxt> Is there a log file I should check, to see what happened with my settings?
[03:58] <NegativeFlare> michael_j_p: try using apt-get ;)
[03:58] <NegativeFlare> Some people, (like myself) don't like using GUI's all the time
[03:58] <michael_j_p> oh I can do apt-get.  I just thought it odd that SNES can no longer be fetched from the S. Center
[03:59] <NegativeFlare> michael_j_p: sudo apt-get install zsnes:i386
[03:59] <NegativeFlare> it'll work just fine ;)
[03:59] <NegativeFlare> !info zsnes
[03:59] <somsip> xS1mple: add a full path to mysqldump maybe?
[03:59] <michael_j_p> NegativeFlare - I am surprised you haven't heard of the freeze problem with it after 30 mins - it's a common complaint in the emulation section of ubuntuforums
[04:00] <xS1mple> someone: I could, but how about tar? That should still write files right?
[04:00] <NegativeFlare> michael_j_p: I don't check the forums that much anymore. Honestly, I've recently gotten back into helping people as a Ubuntu Support person :p
[04:01] <somsip> xS1mple: maybe best to use absolute path for them all except the builtins.
[04:02] <xS1mple> somsip: builtins being cd, rm?
[04:02] <somsip> xS1mple: yep
[04:02] <NegativeFlare> /bin
[04:02] <xS1mple> mk, will give that a shot
[04:02] <michael_j_p> NegativeFlare - thanks for your work as an Ubuntu Support person.  But if you get time, chec out the emulation section and you'll see what I'm talking about
[04:02] <NegativeFlare> michael_j_p: Will do man.
[04:05] <guest-XfHIxt> I will try rebooting again, to try to get my window manager to work.  He is taking a break right now.
[04:06] <xS1mple> somsip: nope, not working
[04:07] <michael_j_p> NegativeFlare - thanks.
[04:07] <NegativeFlare> michael_j_p: no problem.
[04:08] <obXiDeJSFQ> Yeah, I give up, I need help. I was running Arch on this laptop before Ubuntu, and I switched over to Ubuntu because I couldn't solve the issue on Arch, but on Ubuntu it's _a lot_ worse. It's 100% what this guy is having:-
[04:08] <obXiDeJSFQ> http://askubuntu.com/questions/561338/how-can-i-get-my-broadcom-wifi-card-to-work
[04:09] <obXiDeJSFQ> tl;dr wifi cuts out every minute, when it does work, it has like 200MS+ latency to the access point.
[04:09] <vasanth> My ubuntu drop to shell mode but it is working good if i choose previous linux versions
[04:09] <obXiDeJSFQ> On Arch, it'd work fine for a good ten or twenty minutes, I have no idea what driver Arch was using and I'm honestly about to reinstall Arch to check
[04:10] <vasanth> why it is not booting with default image automatically rather it is expecting me to choose the image from linux previuos versions??
[04:10] <vasanth> can anyone help me on this??
[04:11] <icloud> how do i run xbmc on a separate tty so i can switch between it and my main desktop?
[04:11] <obXiDeJSFQ> icloud: Rerun X on a new TTY?
[04:12] <icloud> i tried xinit /usr/bin/xbmc:-1  on tty0 and it didn't work
[04:12] <obXiDeJSFQ> icloud: Switch to that TTY, login to the user you want to run as, launch X, run xbmc.
[04:12] <obXiDeJSFQ> icloud: What do you mean 'didn\'t work'?
[04:12] <daftykins> icloud: i bet your query is answered on the Kodi forums
[04:12] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: It's really not.
[04:13] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: This has nothing to do with XMBC, this is to do with TTYs and X.
[04:13] <obXiDeJSFQ> Also, I don't believe you can just add the command you want to run after the xinit, icloud, make a dedicated user for XBMC then in their ~/.xinitrc add the command you want to run.
[04:13] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: right but given i am in the kodi channels and people ask of this often and find threads on how to do it, why is it a problem for me to direct someone somewhere helpful?
[04:13] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: You think this is a common request? I was just thinking about how abnormal it is.
[04:14] <daftykins> we get some really quirky users ;)
[04:14] <daftykins> so please don't denounce my comments in future
[04:16] <vasanth> can anyone help me out??
[04:17] <daftykins> vasanth: GRUB sits on the menu when the last booted kernel fails
[04:17] <daftykins> maybe you had an issue *shrug*
[04:17] <vasanth> what should i do now??
[04:17] <daftykins> so you say it works with an older kernel?
[04:18] <vasanth> yes but i need to choose the image when system boots by pressing shift key
[04:18] <daftykins> oh, modifying the boot line? maybe you need to run an update-grub
[04:18] <vasanth> i have experience this problem before but i were reinstall that time..But this time i want to know what is the problem and why it happens?
[04:19] <vasanth> yes i have run that also
[04:19] <vasanth> update-grub
[04:19] <vasanth> i will show my error pls wait
[04:19] <icloud> obXiDeJSFQ, ok thanks for the help
[04:20] <icloud> obXiDeJSFQ, i got it to work i need to run xbmc-standalone so its xinit /usr/bin/xbmc-standalone -- :1
[04:21] <vasanth> Gave up waiting for root device.common problems-Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) -Check root delay =(did the system wait long enough?) -check root=(did the system wait for right device?) -missing modules (cat /proc/module;ls /dev) ALERT! /dev/mapper/LTSP--vg-root does not exist.Dropping to shell !
[04:22] <vasanth> Busy box v1.18.5(ubuntu 1:1.18.5-1 ubuntu 2.1)built in shell /ash) Enter help for a list of commands (initramfs)
[04:22] <vasanth> the above error am getting when the system boots defaults
[04:24] <vasanth> daftykins??
[04:26] <guest-X> hi
[04:27] <daftykins> vasanth: boot and check the UUIDs in /etc/fstab against the real ones with "blkid" (might need sudo, but i forget)
[04:28] <anti-unix> when does firefoxhello address invalided?
[04:28] <vasanth> boot with the previous linux version and check right??
[04:28] <obXiDeJSFQ> vasanth: Any version of Linux will do.
[04:28] <guest-X> It says that the file .Xauthority in my home directory is locked, even though that file is empty?
[04:29] <daftykins> guest-X: probably owned by root, delete it
[04:29] <guest-X> That is why I can't log back into my account in xubuntu?
[04:29] <obXiDeJSFQ> guest-X: What says it's locked?
[04:29] <daftykins> anti-unix: can you try again in English?
[04:30] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: He asked when the "FireFox Hello" URL provided to him by Firefox is invalidated. Not an Ubuntu question.
[04:30] <anti-unix> yes
[04:31] <daftykins> obXiDeJSFQ: i'd greatly appreciate if you wouldn't involve yourself in my queries, being in here is not my first rodeo...
[04:31] <guest-X> obXiDeJSFQ, sorry for the delay
[04:32] <obXiDeJSFQ> daftykins: Excuse me for replying to something you couldn't understand in clearer language.
[04:32] <guest-X> obXiDeJSFQ, The terminal says that it is locked when I try to do startx
[04:32] <obXiDeJSFQ> guest-X: Apparently I'm not allowed to help you because daftykins is helping you.
[04:32] <daftykins> actually my request for clarification is a device to highlight one being off topic or not
[04:33] <daftykins> and you can jump in just fine, just don't act like a go-between.
[04:34] <guest-X> obXiDeJSFQ, Thanks anyways.
[04:35] <guest-X> obXiDeJSFQ, Don't worry about all of the fuss.
[04:35] <daftykins> guest-X: "ls -l ~/" to see if it's owned by root, if it is - remove it or change ownership. simple.
[04:35] <anti-unix> help me please :(
[04:35] <guest-X> daftykins, I have deleted a couple of the .Xauthority files.  I think that is where the probem is.
[04:36] <daftykins> couple? i was only aware of one in the user's /home
[04:38] <guest-X> There are some that are not visible unless I am using the terminal without the window manager, because I am logged in as a guest.
[04:38] <anti-unix> -_-!
[04:38] <guest-X> They seem to be backup files.
[04:38] <anti-unix> when the "FireFox Hello" URL provided to me by Firefox is invalidated?
[04:39] <daftykins> guest-X: just switch user, (in a terminal) or use the TTY to log in (ctrl+alt+F1)
[04:40] <guest-X> That is what I just did.
[04:40] <guest-X> But I could not cut and paste the names of the files that I saw into this window.
[04:40] <Finetundra> why would the command ifconfig not display the correct broadcast ip?
[04:40] <guest-X> Thanks I will reboot now.
[04:41] <daftykins> Finetundra: how-so incorrect?
[04:41] <daftykins> also how about "ip a" ?
[04:42] <Finetundra> daftykins, i mean that, if the ip is 10.0.0.1 it will display 10.0.0.255
[04:43] <daftykins> yeah but what are you seeing?
[04:43] <Finetundra> ip a does the same thing. what do you mean?
[04:43] <daftykins> that's a correct broadcast IP if that's a /24
[04:43] <teward> Finetundra: i think what daftykins is asking is the full output of what's being seen...
[04:43] <daftykins> ^
[04:44] <daftykins> to illustrate the example
[04:44] <teward> Finetundra: if the IP is 10.0.0.1 but the netmask is 255.255.255.0 (or /24 in CIDR), then that's the accurate broadcast IP
[04:44] <Finetundra> teward, i got that; daftykins, do you want a pastebin?
[04:44] <teward> Finetundra: yes, we want a pastebin
[04:44] <teward> both of us do
[04:44]  * teward is now curious what you're seeing
[04:44] <daftykins> consider it a late Christmas present
[04:44] <daftykins> ;)
[04:44] <teward> daftykins: i'll take $25 instead :P
[04:46] <Finetundra> http://pastebin.com/mUWtm9Gs
[04:46] <andy__> daftykins, Thanks.  This is guest-x
[04:46] <Finetundra> http://pastebin.com/XCAeH7E0
[04:46] <daftykins> andy__: worked?
[04:46] <teward> Finetundra: well, guess what - that's the correct broadcast IP for that CIDR and mask
[04:47] <Trfsrfr> I have a seagate hd that my system sees as an error. its not mine, and a friend just wants it formatted, but my pc doesnt see it. any help here?
[04:47] <teward> Finetundra: evidenced by the Mask and CIDR:       inet addr:10.0.0.22  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0     and     inet 10.0.0.22/24 brd 10.0.0.255
[04:47] <daftykins> Finetundra: yep looks fine. check out www.jodies.de/ipcalc to confirm
[04:47] <andy__> daftykins, yes.  Now, I just have to see whether I have to remove the requirement to enter the password everytime I log on to my local machine.
[04:49] <andy__> daftykins, I think having multiple window managers might make it more compllicated when logging in.
[04:50] <Finetundra> teward,but that doesn't make sense. would the broadcast ip not be the same as the one used to access the router?
[04:50] <teward> Finetundra: no, that'd be the gateway address.
[04:50] <teward> Finetundra: broadcast is usually .255 on a /24
[04:50] <daftykins> a broadcast IP is network layer
[04:50] <teward> ^ that
[04:50] <daftykins> teward: sorry to parrot you on this one :)
[04:51] <teward> Finetundra: I would look at the IPCalc link from daftykins to confirm this information :)
[04:51] <teward> daftykins: no problem :)
[04:51] <teward> daftykins: just means the information is accurate because 2 sources :)
[04:51] <daftykins> \o/
[04:51] <daftykins> go, team volunteer
[04:51] <teward> Finetundra: http://www.jodies.de/ipcalc?host=10.0.0.1&mask1=24&mask2= is definitely informative here
[04:52] <daftykins> what's scary is i had that URL memorised 0o
[04:52] <teward> Finetundra: the gateway can have any of the IPs in the HostMin-HostMax range - broadcast is a network layer ip and in a /24 it's always the last IP
[04:52] <teward> (which in this case is 10.0.0.255)
[04:52] <teward> Finetundra: Typically, though, the gateway gets .1 in most autoconfig setups of routers and such
[04:52] <rypervenche> There's a program "ipcalc" that you can install that shows the same information :)
[04:53] <teward> indeed
[04:53] <Finetundra> well this has been informative. thanks all
[04:54] <daftykins> Finetundra: just for info, my local telco likes to put out routers by Thomson/Technicolor that operate as 192.168.1.254 - whereas of course consumer netgears like 192.168.0.1 - it's all a bit funny
[04:55] <daftykins> 10.x.x.x addresses tend to only be used in a /16 setup so that you can go from 10.0.0.x to 10.0.255.x without routing - i think that's correct
[04:57] <teward> daftykins: i use 10.x.x.x on my network - granted I have about 15 VLANs and 4 wireless networks (also VLAN'd), but I have a mix of 10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x, and 172.16-32.x.x on my net xD
[04:57]  * teward was bored :P
[04:57] <daftykins> :D
[05:00] <teward> Finetundra: if in doubt in the future, I strongly suggest using an ip calculator like the one me and daftykins linked to, or use the ipcalc program
[05:03] <galup> bonjour
[05:03] <teward> daftykins: ipcalc is what that site uses xD
[05:03]  * teward just realized :)
[05:03] <daftykins> \o/
[05:05] <galup> c
[05:05] <toytoy> Hi guys, any idea how would I stop the cloud-init during system boot? It’s very frustrating I cannot find a way to stop this
[05:09] <wafflejock> toytoy, is this for a VPS on AWS?
[05:10] <wafflejock> !details | toytoy
[05:10] <toytoy> wafflejock: sorry, i’m checking this out -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/405442/how-can-i-disable-cloud-init
[05:11] <toytoy> wafflejock: it’s supposedly to be an openstack setup but i just installed the cloud  at first then didn’t continue
[05:11] <toytoy> wafflejock: what i don’t like is that during boot up time, it takes a while coz it tries to locate instances based on a URL which doesn’t exist so my boot up time takes a while. i want to disable this
[05:12] <toytoy> it’s ubuntu utopic
[05:13] <_Opj> j
[05:14] <wafflejock> toytoy, hmm yea not sure really docs here may be helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit could also dpkg -L cloud-init to see all the files the package installs and see if you can just modify the config, haven't tried myself though
[05:18] <toytoy> wafflejock: thank you on that
[05:19] <toytoy> copy...
[05:29] <vasanth> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass> proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0 /dev/mapper/LTSP--vg-root /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1 # /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation UUID=8ee1f390-d1c8-4e83-a2bd-7f853693738c /boot           ext2    defaults        0       2 /dev/mapper/LTSP--vg-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0  /
[05:29] <vasanth> This is my fstab conf
[05:30] <vasanth> i dont find any UUID for /root
[05:30] <vasanth> is that a problem??
[05:30] <vasanth> for my ubuntu dropping to shell??
[05:31] <daftykins> !paste | vasanth
[05:31] <daftykins> vasanth: 'root device' = /
[05:32] <daftykins> ah i think i might know what's up
[05:32] <daftykins> vasanth: are you booted into this system right now?
[05:32] <vasanth> yes
[05:33] <vasanth> daftykins:yes
[05:33] <daftykins> vasanth: can you run "uname -r" and "ls /boot" ? first can be pasted here, second in a pastebin please
[05:34] <toytoy> wafflejock: nah i just chmod -x for /usr/bin/cloud-init* files and it works fine
[05:34] <AndChat228864> Hi I want to install Ubuntu without using flash drive inside windows.can I do that?
[05:34] <daftykins> AndChat228864: yep you can burn a DVD instead
[05:35] <daftykins> no other option i'm afraid
[05:35] <AndChat228864> Without DVD also
[05:35] <vasanth> Daftykins:3.13.0-40-generic
[05:35] <daftykins> then nope
[05:35] <AndChat228864> I have ubuntu 14.04 but wubi is not working
[05:36] <daftykins> AndChat228864: WUBI is both a terrible idea and not supported. run like the plague it is, trust me
[05:36] <rypervenche> AndChat228864: Wubi is not a real installation.
[05:36] <daftykins> AndChat228864: you can always install virtualbox if you want to just play with ubuntu
[05:36] <vasanth> root@LTSP:/home/administrator# ls /boot abi-3.13.0-32-generic         lost+found abi-3.13.0-40-generic         memtest86+.bin abi-3.13.0-43-generic         memtest86+_multiboot.bin config-3.13.0-32-generic      pxelinux.0 config-3.13.0-40-generic      pxelinux.cfg config-3.13.0-43-generic      System.map-3.13.0-32-generic gpxelinux.0                   System.map-3.13.0-40-generic grub                          System.map-3.13.0-43-ge
[05:36] <daftykins> vasanth: what did i tell you about not pasting into here?
[05:36] <vasanth> sorry sorry wrongly pasted
[05:37] <daftykins> vasanth: ok and "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "mount | pastebinit"
[05:37] <wafflejock> ^
[05:37] <AndChat228864> No no man my system infected with virus I can't copy Iso all files copied to flash drive are changed as shortcuts so I can't install via usb
[05:38] <wafflejock> AndChat228864, just download on another computer, get a friend to do it, or you can buy a preinstalled media
[05:38] <AndChat|228864> So I need a alternative please suggest me any other is which can be installed inside windows
[05:38] <vasanth> daftykins:i have done that
[05:39] <daftykins> AndChat228864: you know you don't copy an ISO onto a flash drive, you have to make it up properly using something like Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com ?
[05:39] <AndChat|228864> So I need a alternative so please suggest me any other os that can be installed inside windows
[05:39] <daftykins> no, that's not an option
[05:39] <daftykins> can't be done.
[05:40] <vasanth> yes but it posted on pastebin
[05:40] <daftykins> vasanth: yeah so share the link here
[05:40] <AndChat|228864> No no man I am just saying all files copied to USB are turned to shortcuts
[05:40] <vasanth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9675014/
[05:40] <p0ss> AndChat|228864  If you're that infected, your computer is screwed,  nuke it from orbit, format the entire drive and install a new OS
[05:41] <wafflejock> AndChat228864, you have a rooted phone?
[05:41] <daftykins> p0ss: that's some bad advice
[05:41] <AndChat|228864> Ya I have
[05:41] <vasanth> daftykins:you got that??
[05:41] <wafflejock> AndChat|228864, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid&hl=en <-- never used it but figured this must exist and it does
[05:42] <daftykins> vasanth: yes, thinking it over right now, standby.
[05:42] <vasanth> ok
[05:43] <andy__> daftykins, I think my setup is back to normal again.  I still want to try out other window managers, though.
[05:43] <daftykins> vasanth: "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "ls /boot | pastebinit"
[05:43] <vasanth> if i unmount that any changes will happen??Because this is the server for LTSP am using
[05:43] <AndChat|228864> Thanks @wafflejock
[05:44] <wafflejock> AndChat|228864, np if it works out come back and let me know I'm curious how that goes
[05:44] <p0ss> daftykins:  if  their computer is infected enough that they can't copy files from one place to another, they've got serious problems and a deep infection, if one virus got that far in, there are likely to be others.  Its not bad advice, just drastic.
[05:44] <daftykins> vasanth: all safe
[05:44] <vasanth> clients are connected to this computer through ssh
[05:44] <vasanth> ok then
[05:44] <daftykins> p0ss: i disagree, but windows help is off topic regardless :>
[05:45] <daftykins> vasanth: i see it must be an install that's been upgraded a lot over the years
[05:45] <vasanth> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[05:45] <andy__> how do I switch channels?
[05:45] <vasanth> no i am updating and upgrading daily
[05:46] <vasanth> This ubuntu version is ubuntu 12.04 alternate
[05:46] <daftykins> vasanth: alright, wasn't what i thought it was. i don't use LVM so i won't be able to help any further unfortunately
[05:47] <daftykins> andy__: what client are you using? join another with "/join #channelname" and then it'll be another tab or so
[05:47] <vasanth> Is this problem is because of LVM??
[05:47] <daftykins> no i just don't know how to deal with LVM :)
[05:47] <vasanth> i need to mount /boot ??
[05:47] <vasanth> because i unmounted right??
[05:48] <p0ss> daftykins, given their purpose for installing ubuntu within windows is to remove windows viruses, I'd say they're in for a pretty complex operation and will end up asking *someone* for a blend of windows and ubuntu support.  Given how hard it can be to pull the roots of a virus out of windows from a ubuntu installation within windows, and given they can't even copy files, nuking just seems like a shortcut.  I'm happy to let someone els
[05:48] <daftykins> vasanth: you can if you like, won't matter much until reboot :)
[05:49] <vasanth> how to mount??
[05:50] <daftykins> "sudo mount -a"
[05:50] <vasanth> then can you please say to whom i have to ask this doubt??
[05:51] <andy__> daftykins, I am using xchat.  The command that you gave me works pretty well, but it does not generate tabs.
[05:51] <daftykins> vasanth: what?
[05:51] <daftykins> andy__: does it not have a .kst
[05:51] <vasanth> For this problem i want solution daftkins??
[05:51] <daftykins> ll;s
[05:51] <daftykins> oops, sorry my cat was in my face :D
[05:52] <daftykins> andy__: normally xchat has channels to the left in a separate view, i don't know what else to say
[05:52] <daftykins> vasanth: nobody else seems to be around, so it's game over i think. but you're dealing with a 'live' system so experimenting can't be great either
[05:53] <vasanth> No other go daftykins i need to reinstall or using by previous linux version right??
[05:54] <daftykins> well the LVM setup and the presence of an ext2 /boot is pretty old school
[05:54] <daftykins> (LVM isn't, but the latter bit is old style)
[05:54] <vasanth> daftykins:so?
[05:54] <andy__> daftykins, I don't know about any .kst.  I can see the channels that I logged into on the left.  What chat program do you recommend that uses the tabs that you are talking about.
[05:54] <andy__> >
[05:54] <andy__> ?
[05:55] <daftykins> vasanth: nevermind
[05:55] <andy__> (sorry, I had a typo.  meant to end that last comment as a question.
[05:55] <andy__> )
[05:56] <daftykins> andy__: oh yeah i do just mean the channel list on the left, tabs are just another way to represent that
[05:58] <andy__> daftykins, That's okay. I will keep on using xchat then.  It seems like a great program.
[05:59] <daftykins> i think hexchat is a lot newer if you can get it
[06:08] <andy__> daftykins, Thanks.  hexchat seems to work okay.
[06:08] <daftykins> np
[06:09] <ALI> HY
[06:10] <ALI> salam
[06:11] <andy__> salam ALI
[06:15] <jamie_> hey, im looking for a certain package of libenet2a and cant seem to find it anywhere
[06:21] <p0ss> jamie_ any additional details?
[06:23] <jamie_> p0ss: im looking for libenet2a 1.3.7 +ds
[06:24] <daftykins> !find libenet
[06:25] <daftykins> !info libenet-dev
[06:25] <daftykins> sound good?
[06:25] <jamie_> im looking for a specific one from trusty
[06:25] <daftykins> !find libenet trusty
[06:25] <daftykins> :D
[06:27] <jamie_> Depends: libenet2a (>= 1.3.7+ds) is what I am running into, and have installed the most recent one from utopic unicorn
[06:27] <daftykins> oh so you're mixing distro release, good luck with that :)
[06:28] <jamie_> if i can find it i can take care of the rest, i just need to find it first
[06:29] <p0ss> jamie_ here is the homepage with a more recent version.  http://enet.bespin.org/Downloads.html
[06:29] <jamie_> ill see if this one works, i hope it does
[06:31] <jamie_> okay... crap... i really suck at compileing
[06:32] <CamC> hi I tried to read a .svo file and now my console seems to be stuck in ascii or something, the font is all wrong, can someone help please
[06:34] <CamC> is there a simple way of resetting the font on the console please? ubuntu 14.10 remote
[06:57] <dfcnvt> How do I use hotkey to automatically move a window to another monitor? (Ctrl+Alt+Shift+LeftArrow/RightArrow) & (Crtl+Alt+NumPad) ain't the one.
[07:04] <BigBawb> Hi there, Im dual booting a windows / ubuntu device. On ubuntu my internet speeds drop a lot
[07:05] <BigBawb> Is there a common reason for this?
[07:06] <Stanley00> BigBawb: does it drop when you update ubuntu packages, or all the time?
[07:07] <p0ss> BigBawb, there shouldn't be a difference. However sometimes there are driver issues. What is your network adapter?
[07:09] <batsazz> It's needs to start during boot
[07:09] <slimpixel> Hello, I was hoping that someone could assist me. I do not seem to be having this issue in RedHat but am def having this issue in ubuntu only.
[07:10] <slimpixel> telnet -b 64.79.89.187 gmail-smtp-in.1.google.com 25
[07:10] <slimpixel> telnet: could not resolve gmail-smtp-in.1.google.com/25: Name or service not known
[07:10] <slimpixel> telnet -b 64.79.89.187 gmail-smtp-in.1.google.com 25
[07:10] <slimpixel> telnet: could not resolve gmail-smtp-in.1.google.com/25: Name or service not known
[07:10] <slimpixel> When using telnet as telnet host.tld 25 it works
[07:10] <CMDGY> hi
[07:10] <slimpixel> however when telling telnet to use another port it seems not to work
[07:10] <CMDGY> anybody could see my words?
[07:10] <batsazz> CMDGY: Hey
[07:10] <CMDGY> oh god thanks
[07:10] <slimpixel> CMDGY: Hi
[07:10] <BigBawb> Stanley00: All the time
[07:11] <BigBawb> It swings pretty wildly actually
[07:11] <BigBawb> p0ss: I got an Edimax Wireless 802.11b/g/n
[07:11] <BigBawb> usb adapter
[07:11] <Stanley00> BigBawb: then I don't know, maybe it's a driver problem as p0ss said.
[07:11] <aaazxc98001> ф
[07:12] <jamie_> I need some help ASAP!!
[07:12] <BigBawb> Its meant for linux
[07:12] <BigBawb> I didnt have to install any drivers for it
[07:12] <slimpixel> If I telnet to a remote host using the default interface it seems to work without an issue but when using a specif interface i cannot lookup any host
[07:12] <batsazz> jamie_: Hey
[07:12] <slimpixel> it seems like the resolver is not working
[07:12] <jamie_> i went to restart unity via terminal and it somehow failed!! I am currently in cinnamon desktop
[07:13] <BigBawb> The only difference is the boot Im doing. Not changing the usb slot or anything. I get 7 down 1 up on windows. 1 down .1 up on Ubuntu.
[07:13] <CMDGY> im a new user of linux , and have problems typing
[07:13] <jamie_> I would try again but dont want to screw it up even worse,
[07:14] <CMDGY> for instance .. the symbol between i and m
[07:14] <tarkan> I like ubuntu
[07:14] <daftykins> jamie_: works in a guest session?
[07:14] <BigBawb> 23:07] <batsazz> does it drop he asked. You bastard. [23:09] <batsazz> Faggot.
[07:14] <BigBawb> what was that for batsazz ?
[07:14] <jamie_> I have removed guest from lightem dm
[07:14] <rypervenche> CMDGY: Are you using a Chinese IME to type or the normal keyboard layout?
[07:15] <jamie_> i am in the cinnamon desktop on 14.10
[07:15] <cfhowlett> igBawb, batsazz LANGUAGE!  verbal abuse will get you banned
[07:15] <CMDGY> i have no idea ,but i install the system in english
[07:15] <daftykins> ugh, ruined your diagnosis method
[07:15] <daftykins> jamie_: tried temporarily renaming ~/.config to ~/.configold ?
[07:16] <batsazz> BigBawb: You vulgar mouth
[07:16] <rypervenche> CMDGY: What symbol are you talking about? Between the i and m keys are the j and k keys. What symbol are you trying to type? What does the symbol mean?
[07:16] <p0ss> BigBawb, there are a couple of things that could be causing this.  could you run through these steps? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108
[07:16] <jamie_> no, and not sure how to do that or what it will do
[07:17] <jamie_> i have way to much work on the line right now
[07:17] <CMDGY> I AM  -> I(symble)m
[07:17] <cfhowlett> CMDGY, post a picture
[07:17] <daftykins> jamie_: it's easily undone, just run "mv ~/.config ~/.configold"
[07:18] <tarkan> My guess is that he means "I'm"
[07:18] <rypervenche> CMDGY: And what happens when you press the ' key?
[07:18] <jamie_> in the terminal
[07:18] <CMDGY> ill show you
[07:18] <CMDGY> like this ̍
[07:18] <cfhowlett> CMDGY, do you have these symbols on your physical keyboard??
[07:18] <CMDGY> s̍̍̍
[07:18] <daftykins> jamie_: correct, then logout + in to try a unity session again
[07:18] <CMDGY> yes, it works on windows
[07:19] <cfhowlett> CMDGY, right, your system may be in english but your keyboard is not
[07:19] <CMDGY> what can i do to fix it?
[07:19] <rypervenche> CMDGY: That may be the International English keyboard. You will want to change your keyboard layout.
[07:19] <CMDGY> thanks , i will try
[07:21] <jamie_> I dont if there is a certain way to enter text on the cinnamon terminal or things are screwed up really bad
[07:21] <bubbasaures> jamie_, You enter desktops from the login area.
[07:22] <daftykins> jamie_: hit ctrl+alt+F1 and do it there, alt+F7 to come back
[07:22] <jamie_> i know, the cinnamon terminal when trying to enter what you said there is nothing showing up
[07:22] <daftykins> so don't use it, or run another terminal 0o
[07:26] <BigBawb> p0ss: Didnt seem to make a difference
[07:27] <jamie_> sorry can you repeat that
[07:27] <BigBawb> my upload speed is actually beating my download speed in some cases
[07:27] <daftykins> jamie_: it's easily undone, just run "mv ~/.config ~/.configold"
[07:28] <peter100> xbmc crashes on ubuntu 12.10?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !12.10 | peter100,
[07:28] <peter100> what to do?
[07:28] <peter100> yes
[07:28] <peter100> 12.10
[07:28] <cfhowlett> peter100, upgrade to a supported version.  12.10 isn't supported here.
[07:29] <peter100> cfhowlett i am sorry, typing mistake, its 12.04
[07:29] <peter100> mine is 12.04
[07:29] <peter100> lts one
[07:30] <cfhowlett> peter100, better.  xmbc has IRC and forums ... best you ask the experts
[07:30] <peter100> nobody replies there?
[07:30] <peter100> that;s why i am asking here
[07:31] <daftykins> #kodi is XBMC's channel, pretty quiet at this time though
[07:31] <peter100> have already tried that
[07:32] <peter100> #xbmc-linux
[07:32] <peter100> no replies
[07:32] <daftykins> that channel isn't current anymore
[07:32] <cfhowlett> peter100, no instant answers.  maybe MAYBE someone here has enough experience to advise.  otherwise, use the forums
[07:32] <peter100> i see
[07:32] <daftykins> it's #kodi-linux
[07:32] <peter100> ok thanks daftykins
[07:32] <peter100> i will check
[07:35] <jamie_> okay,
[07:35] <daftykins> result?
[07:35] <jamie_> I ran it and it responded that it wasnt empty so it couldnt
[07:36] <daftykins> are you sure you typed "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" ?
[07:36] <daftykins> as your user
[07:36] <jamie_> yes
[07:37] <jamie_> mv: cannot move ‘/home/jamie/.config’ to ‘/home/jamie/.configold/.config’: Directory not empty
[07:37] <jamie_> copied and pasted
[07:39] <zer> join Java
[07:39] <daftykins> jamie_: no, that's not correct as that's trying to move it to beneath configold
[07:39] <cfhowlett> jamie_, cd ~         mv .config .configOLD
[07:40] <jamie_> okay it returned nothing so im going to try to restart now
[07:42] <cfhowlett> jamie_, ls -a    should show .configOLD
[07:43] <homra> hi
[07:43] <jamie_> the bottom of the list?
[07:51] <linuxator> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64
[07:51] <linuxator> W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw for module r8169 ,how to fix this?
[07:56] <scotty^> Is there anyone here who can assist with a kernel SRU for a sound issue?
[07:57] <greves> how can i set up ubuntu running in vmware to be a server for my home network?
[07:57] <scotty^> I'll expand that slightly - is there anyone here who can assist with a kernel SRU for Trusty for a sound issue?
[07:59] <scotty^> A fix exists upstream for Ubuntu bug 1402588
[08:02] <jamie_> okay, sorry tried again... and my firefox closed, what was that last command you said to use to check
[08:03] <daftykins> just test unity already
[08:03] <GeekMan1222> hello
[08:06] <GeekMan1222> Im trying to setup apcupsd and im having some problems. So far i tried alot of things this is where im at so far. The UPS uses simple cabling aka ethernet --> usb, When i run apctest i get an error about linux-usb.c line 608. I have managed to find out i need to have the kernal compiled with hiddev also read possibly usbnet any help is appreciated about doing these things, Thanks
[08:06] <jamie_> i just ran it though x terminal, after tring through startx cinnamon and it didnt work so i used xterminal to try again
[08:07] <jamie_> i have... twice and it didnt work
[08:07] <daftykins> you shouldn't use startx, could well be part of why you have issues
[08:07] <daftykins> GeekMan1222: last 12.04 box i setup with apcupsd worked out of the box, no kernel issues.
[08:07] <GeekMan1222> sources http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/199586-apcupsd-ubuntu-13-0-fatal-error-linux-usb-c-line-609-a.html
[08:07] <jamie_> I tried with standard and the ctrl alt f1 and didnt work either so i just tried xterminal
[08:08] <jamie_> i went down the list
[08:08] <GeekMan1222> this is an old ups if you dont mind helping me set it up maybe im missing something
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[08:08] <daftykins> GeekMan1222: just see what you get from "dmesg | tail" when you plug it in
[08:08] <GeekMan1222> it recognizes the usb when i tail kernal.log
[08:09] <GeekMan1222> and run lsusb
[08:09] <GeekMan1222> do i need to specify something
[08:09] <GeekMan1222> ill try what you said though daftykins
[08:10] <daftykins> is that 14.10 you're using a UPS with?
[08:10] <GeekMan1222> yes sir 14.10LTS server edition
[08:10] <daftykins> only 14.04 is LTS
[08:10] <daftykins> i gotta sleep though i'm afraid, so can't hang around
[08:10] <GeekMan1222> and tailing dmesg gives hid-genric ...... apc model
[08:11] <GeekMan1222> can you point me in the right direction daftykins you seem to be familiar with this
[08:11] <GeekMan1222> since you have to leave
[08:12] <daftykins> well i have only set it up where it was working perfectly, so i don't really know what to say
[08:13] <GeekMan1222> i have upscable simple and upstype usb device blank
[08:13] <GeekMan1222> im thinking maybe the last two are wrong
[08:13] <GeekMan1222> i tried typing my cable model to it said it was bogus
[08:13] <GeekMan1222> lol
[08:14] <daftykins> hrmm i've got no SSH access to the box i have this on, so i can't check
[08:20] <GeekMan1222> alright daftykins thanks for the help though :/
[08:20] <GeekMan1222> hmm
[08:22] <jamie_> By the way, who ever was helping me, when i ran it through xterminal it worked thanks for the help and sorry i was kinds scared to death that i was gonna loose a lot of work
[08:22] <GeekMan1222> daftykins, im dumb
[08:23] <GeekMan1222> i didnt run the test as sudo
[08:23] <GeekMan1222> also i changed it from simple to smart .. not sure if mines really smart though
[08:38] <angs> I have a x86 laptop that does not have a hard driver. Can I set up Ubuntu on an external Hard disk and use it as inbuilt hard disk?
[08:38] <White_Cat> angs theoratically yes
[08:39] <White_Cat> provided the motherboard can boot from an external drive
[08:39] <White_Cat> some older laptops detected external drives only post-boot from the OS
[08:40] <White_Cat> And assuming your external drive has drivers in odoo - it would surprise me if it doesnt.
[08:40] <White_Cat> angs why not use an internal drive, they arent exctly expensive
[08:40] <angs> White_Cat: it is not a too old laptop, I have a usb stick that has ubuntu, it works fine on the boot
[08:41] <White_Cat> then it should work fine with a usb drive - if that is what you are asking
[08:41] <angs> Do you know if the performance will be too bad?
[08:41] <angs> or would be okay
[08:41] <angs> it has usb 2 port
[08:41] <White_Cat> I wouldnt expect the performance to be too degraded but you have the age of probem of accidentally unplugging the usb drive
[08:42] <White_Cat> a more practical problem
[08:42] <dionysus69> angs why dont u install haha
[08:42] <White_Cat> angs I too would suggest just trying
[08:43] <angs> I will try it now thank you.
[08:45] <dionysus69> angs i assume you want hard drive in your laptop so if you have external hard drive I would recommend taking out hard drive out of that one with the help of tutorial and inserting it into laptop hehe
[08:46] <angs> I will check if the size will fit, thank you gor the suggestion
[08:52] <light94> Hello everyone, I have installed gnome alongside unity in my system and wanted to tweak gnome settings and found gnome-extensions great for that purpose. I wanted to know if installing gnome extensions would affect unity adversely
[08:52] <light94> gnome=shell I mean
[08:52] <svetlana> try them, nobody knows
[08:53] <svetlana> read reviews for them
[08:53] <svetlana> afaik no-one reviews them and they're all at your own risk, but I expect them to be reasonably sensible when it comes to uninstalling
[08:53] <cached> is the default ubuntu still unity?
[08:54] <svetlana> I don't really care; it's been years since i last saw unity
[08:54] <svetlana> i didn't look at it after its first release
[08:54] <DJones> cached: Yes it is
[08:54] <Guest50456> Hello, i've installed hp laserjet 1000 in my ubuntu using hplip and i can print normally from localhost, but when i print from windows (samba/ipp), the print job is completed but the printer is not printing anything. what is the problem?
[08:54] <DJones> cached: Although you can change to KDE/XFCE/LXDE etc
[08:55] <cached> alright. now i know what not to install for my mother.
[08:56] <light94> is it unsafe to use different desktop environments together?
[08:56] <light94> i mean, kde gnome and unity?
[08:58] <homra> wtf ??
[08:59] <dionysus69> light94: i dont think you can or why would you want to?
[09:00] <light94> dionysus69: actually I wanted to try them out and find the best that suits me since many people praise them alike
[09:10] <bcvery1> I'm running Gnome-ubuntu 14.04, I get the error message "could not set the configuration for CRTC 148" when trying to activate my third screen (this was working fine for weeks before Christmas)
[09:12] <iptable> bcvery1: so what did you change?
[09:12] <bcvery1> Nothing, the machine has been off since I've been away
[09:13] <bcvery1> ^^ iptable
[09:13] <iptable> bcvery1: cnofig changes / unplug-replug monitors maniacly / cable changes, no? If not, then most likely it's your monitor
[09:13] <iptable> bcvery1: no upgrades between working/non-working ?
[09:14] <bcvery1> iptable, unless it ran updates by being turned off - the monitor has been tested (just now) with a different machine, working fine
[09:14] <iptable> bcvery1: create a new user on the machine and login as that user. do only BASIC graphics configuration to get 3 monitors working. report back.
[09:14]  * iptable testing if user configuration is at fault
[09:15] <bcvery1> iptable, will do
[09:17] <maksimka> hello does the ubuntu package libzmq3-dev provide ZMQ version 4? looking at package describtion (libzmq3-dev:amd64 (4.0.4+dfsg-2)) I get confused with the 3 in fist part and 4 in second part..
[09:20] <bcvery1> iptable, newly created user is experiencing the same problem.  When changed in 'Screen Display' (settings) there is a rather long "GDBus.Error....", would it be helpful?
[09:25] <iptable> maksimka: it's libzmq3 compatibility version 4.0.4 whatever that means
[09:27] <iptable> libzmq4 is apparently compatiblity version 5. I think that's a question for the devs more than anything. confusing.
[09:42] <feurd> Hi. I've created a special pair of ssh-key to connect my desktop to my laptop. I gave it a custom name, and added the public key to my authorized_keys file on my laptop. But when I try to connect, the key is not used, it asks for the sesion password instead. What am I missing?
[09:52] <kevindf> Is the latest ubuntu kernel 3.2.0.74-generic,
[09:52] <k1l> kevindf: no
[09:53] <k1l> kevindf: what ubuntu are you on?
[09:53] <kevindf> ubuntu 12.04
[09:53] <k1l> kevindf: you can use the hardware enablement stack to get the backports kernel from 14.04
[09:54] <kevindf> What is the latest kernel in 14.04,
[09:54] <k1l> kevindf: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[09:54] <kevindf> thank you, will take a look at that
[09:55] <kevindf> k1l :I currently have 3.13.0-43-generic, but our teacher is telling us that 3.2.0.74-generic is the newest one
[09:56] <k1l> !info linux-image-generic precise
[09:57] <k1l> kevindf: usually the ubuntu stays at the kernel it was shipped with. but the LTS releases can use the hardware enablement stack and get a new one
[09:57] <kevindf> Will enable that now, thank you :)
[09:57] <ztane> anyone have firefox crashing with gstreamer? 100 % of time when I navigate to some pages my firefox crashes if there are videos on autoplay
[09:58] <ararob> ztane:no, my firefox is pretty stable.
[09:58] <ararob> ztane: do you have flash installed? because i only use html5 video
[09:58] <impeldown> you might update your firefox
[09:59] <ztane> ararob: this is html5 only video
[10:00] <ztane> crash does not occur if gstreamer is disabled
[10:00] <ztane> flash is the stable one
[10:00] <k1l> ztane: start firefox from terminal and keep that open. then load the video and see what errors you get in the terminal
[10:00] <ztane> I got some hint somewhere that it might be because of intel
[10:00] <ztane> did
[10:01] <ztane> (firefox:4822): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_structure_new_empty: assertion 'gst_structure_validate_name (name)' failed
[10:01] <ztane> and
[10:01] <ztane> [4906] ###!!! ABORT: Aborting on channel error.: file /build/buildd/firefox-34.0+build2/ipc/glue/MessageChannel.cpp, line 1618
[10:01] <ztane> they do not give any hint to what is the real reason however
[10:01] <k1l> can you start with a clean profile?
[10:02] <ztane> did
[10:02] <eman_> hello friends... would anyone know why the owner of my non-root user .Xauthority file be changed to root:root seemingly at random? I'm running 14.01
[10:02] <ztane> all
[10:02] <k1l> eman_: it mus belong to user:user.
[10:02] <eman_> i know this
[10:02] <ztane> the only thing that does avoid the crash is disabling gstreamer, which is a nodo :D since I want to work with html5 video :D
[10:02] <k1l> eman_: that comes when use of sudo is with gui programs (for example)
[10:03] <ztane> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1363430 hmm this one
[10:03] <eman_> k1l: ok thank you
[10:03] <ararob> ztane: which distro? and which versions of firefox and gstreamer? I run the latest stable of everything, seems to work.
[10:04] <ztane> ararob: hmm seems i am still using trusty, maybe I should upgrade
[10:06] <ararob> ztane: although, i did get random crashes with chrome/chromium and every single browser i tested except firefox in trusty :)
[10:06] <kevinking> hello
[10:06] <pl1x> I'm trying to install ubuntu server
[10:06] <surs> Hello, I'm trying to connect to a proxmox vm using remmina vnc, I am getting this error "Unknown authentication scheme from VNC server: 19". Any pointers?
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !server | pl1x
[10:07] <pl1x> It shows me a weird command line after keyboard config
[10:07] <Bambi23>  High Quality photos and videos http://j.mp/Rh9YfS
[10:07] <surs> google searches suggest it could be a libvnc issue. How can I confirm that?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> pl1x, install pastebinit and paste your commands/feedback
[10:08] <ztane> ararob: it has not crashed always, only recently... it gets very annoying if one cannot read newspapers anymore bc they have embedded html5 vids :D
[10:08] <ztane> just navigate by accident to any page with html5 video and lose your work :D
[10:09] <pl1x> cfhowlett: there is no command
[10:09] <pl1x> just a line where i can enter commands
[10:09] <cfhowlett> pl1x, install pastebinit
[10:10] <pl1x> cfhowlett: ok
[10:10] <feurd> I'm still struggling connecting my desktop to my laptop, but I know why. My desktop is still trying to use the old key, not the new one. So the laptop refuses the connection. How can I ask my desktop to use the new one?
[10:14] <ararob> ztane: also, i have 3.16 kernel with intel GPU. I'd try upgrading...
[10:18] <ztane> ararob: hmhm :D
[10:19] <ztane> ararob: you on utopic?
[10:19] <ararob> ztane: yes, lubuntu.
[10:22] <nekyian> how do I add nginx to services that automatically start on boot in ubuntu 14.x?
[10:23] <Thumpxr_> Okay, thats a far shot. But anyone here running a AMD 7970 (CPU: Intel i5 4670k, 16GB Ram)and playing CS:GO? I cant get over 190fps with the latest beta driver from the amd page. for comparison, same settings, same machine but windows 10 technical preview gives me 280-350fps on the same maps
[10:40] <Matriks404> hello is there a way to open other user desktop on my desktop? For example i am user1 and i want to open firefox as user2 but to show it on my display as virtual desktop or something
[10:40] <jpds> Matriks404: No.
[10:40] <jpds> Matriks404: You could let them VNC into your desktop.
[10:41] <phre4k> can I just copy the CUPS config from one PC to another and have the same printers set up?
[10:42] <cfhowlett> phre4k, sounds doable
[10:42] <Matriks404> jpds: how do i do this?
[10:42] <jpds> !vnc | Matriks404
[10:47] <heheh> bazhang is a dog and son of dog, a bitch s son
[10:47] <Thumpxr_> i kinda feel dumb, i have a mouse without hardware mouse acceleration and still have acceleration in 14.04, even when i change the acceleration in the systemsettings so "slow" which should be equivalent to off, or not ?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !ops | heheh, abuse
[10:47] <heheh> lol
[10:48] <heheh> why so quick
[10:49] <cfhowlett> ikonia, thank you ^ 2
[10:49] <ikonia> sorry about that, typo
[10:50] <SvenTheReindeer> Can anyone help me with a minor issue regarding Outguess 0.2?
[10:51] <thom__> hello gayss
[11:15] <alekpdwrts> I fell that the browser usually crashes in ubuntu when there's flash on a page, do you guys feel the same? any fix for the problem?
[11:15] <cfhowlett> alekpdwrts, "feel"?  no one cares what you feel.  what have you actually observed?
[11:17] <alekpdwrts> cfhowlett: well it freezes the browser or crashes, the same problem in both firefox and chromium
[11:17] <cfhowlett> alekpdwrts, start your browser from the terminal. record error messages on failure ...
[11:18] <anonymous_> hi
[11:18] <anonymous_> i have anontmous os
[11:18] <anonymous_> haha
[11:18] <anonymous_> where are you from?
[11:18] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, this is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[11:18] <Ben64> anonymous_: this channel only is for ubuntu support
[11:18] <anonymous_> fuck
[11:18] <anonymous_> s
[11:18] <anonymous_> s
[11:18] <anonymous_> s
[11:18] <anonymous_> s
[11:18] <anonymous_> ss
[11:18] <unopaste> anonymous_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:20] <fjg> what is a program i can use to view and edit pdf annotations?
[11:20] <iptable> fjg: adobe acrobat?
[11:20] <thom_756> this chat irc is for support?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> fjg, view?  evince
[11:20] <cfhowlett> thom_756, ubuntu support
[11:20] <iptable> thom_756: it's for "free support by a community of dedicated and eager users"
[11:21] <bazhang> !info pdftk | fjg
[11:21] <iptable> alekpdwrts: flash on ubuntu. now, what websites? news websites filled with flash adverts on the sides and everywhere or just youtube?
[11:21] <kiran_> i want to know latest changes in linux ubunutu
[11:21] <cfhowlett> kiran_, go the page and read release notes
[11:22] <kiran_> kk
[11:22] <bazhang> !notes
[11:22] <kiran_> i mean i want to customize like tiny core any ideas
[11:22] <thom_756> understand. i have one question. Whit ubuntu, i can open file .exe? or just some?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> thom_756, .exe files are for windows, not linux.  *some* programs *might* work to *some* extent with wine
[11:23] <cfhowlett> !wine | thom_756
[11:23] <kiran_> thom_756 use wine you can open .exe files
[11:23] <iptable> thom_756: .exe are WINDOWS executables. Wine is a linux software which provides a compatibility layer trying to deal with that to enable you to run windows apps on linux. doesn't always work.
[11:23] <xie_> hello ubuntu
[11:23] <alekpdwrts> iptable: a site with flash adverts on the sides and everywhere!
[11:24] <phre4k> are all the cups configs in /etc/cups?
[11:24] <kiran_> anybody work on tiny core
[11:24] <kiran_> ??
[11:24] <iptable> alekpdwrts: the issue is 2-fold. 1. the site is written badly (and so are the flash adverts), causing flash overload, 2. flash was always buggy and bad on linux (courtesy of adobe, not linux fault, it's closed source really)
[11:24] <alekpdwrts> iptables: don't have any problems running clips on youtube
[11:25] <cfhowlett> kiran_, it's not ubuntu, not supported here.  go the the TC page for help
[11:25] <blackyboy> phre4k: vim /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[11:25] <iptable> alekpdwrts: I know the issue. for those sites you need either a beefy graphics card on linux or disable flash
[11:25] <MindSpark> Does anyone know how to install cscope on raring?
[11:25] <kiran_> cfhowlett, kk
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !raring | MindSpark
[11:26] <bazhang> its eol MindSpark
[11:26] <kiran_> cfhowlett, you use tiny core??
[11:26] <alekpdwrts> iptables: I'm running linux on a laptop so I'll try with adb-blocker or something...
[11:26] <cfhowlett> kiran_, no
[11:26] <alekpdwrts> iptales: thanks for the information...
[11:26] <blackyboy> MindSpark: still using raring ? Even support ended.
[11:26] <kiran_> cfhowlett, kk
[11:27] <bazhang> !alis | kiran_ use this to search for tinycore
[11:27] <MindSpark> that's why I am asking here ;). This is not paid support, is it?
[11:27] <iptable> alekpdwrts: no problem. known issue with adobe flash and badly written sites...
[11:27] <thom_756> thanks you.. ^^
[11:27] <cfhowlett> MindSpark, end of life means "no longer supported" here or elsewhere.  upgrade to a supported version and return for assistance
[11:28] <MindSpark> cfhowlett, when support ends, do repositories die?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> MindSpark, not immediately
[11:28] <iptable> even paid support doesn't support end of life versions in pretty much any company unless you pay them millions to keep a dedicated team for you
[11:28] <MindSpark> because my problem is currently that the server is not reachable for aptitude
[11:28] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | MindSpark
[11:29] <iptable> server not reachable is another issue. please provide pastebin with error message MindSpark
[11:29] <cfhowlett> MindSpark,^^^^
[11:29] <iptable> MindSpark: and your country of origin
[11:30] <MindSpark> ok, thanks. Guess I'll have to tell the team that I'll be doing that upgrade which might introduce breaking changes during the process...
[11:30] <smiles4> hello world!
[11:30] <cfhowlett> MindSpark, suggest you install LTS version 14.04.1
[11:30] <Ben64> MindSpark: having a system without updates for a year is worse than anything else
[11:30] <iptable> MindSpark: should have thought of that before it ran out of support TBH. Install 14.04, which is LTS and supported for many years. Don't go for 14.10 short term support cutting edge one
[11:31] <MindSpark> iptable, http://pastebin.com/HzrSRzkF , Germany
[11:32] <iptable> MindSpark: 404 not found != server not found
[11:32] <iptable> MindSpark: the files are no longer in the repositories. file not found. that's that. upgrade
[11:32] <MindSpark> alright, thanks
[11:32] <thom_756> my version of ubuntu isn't final generatios? or exist other versione..?
[11:33] <iptable> thom_756: what?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> thom_756, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[11:33] <iptable> thom_756: what version are you and what exactly do you want to know?
[11:33] <k1l> MindSpark: if you run a server and you know you dont want to upgrade for a longer time period go for the LTS in the first place. they got 5 years support.
[11:34] <thom_756> i have this version. Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, 14.04 LTS, 14.10 . exist new version or this is final (latest) version?
[11:35] <k1l> thom_756: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[11:35] <iptable> thom_756: as per ubuntu downloads website page, 14.10 is latest
[11:35] <iptable> thom_756: 10.04 is no longer supported. 12.04 is LTS and still supported. 14.04 came out in 14.04 (April 2014) and is supported for 5 years from that point.
[11:35] <iptable> thom_756: 14.10 is NOT LTS and is short term support. do not use for server
[11:35] <k1l> iptable: 10.04 got still server support
[11:36] <iptable> ah, sorry, yes, my bad
[11:36] <iptable> 10.04 was the weird one that had separate lifespan for server and desktop
[11:36] <iptable> thom_756: for more information see here. http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[11:37] <iptable> thom_756: note that since it's not april 2015 yet, 15.04 and further are not out yet. 14.10 is latest
[11:38] <thom_756> thank you very much iptable and k1l
[11:39] <Siilwyn> It's not april 2015 yet. ;0
[11:40] <iptable> really, it isn't :D
[11:40] <smiles3> Hello World, I'm smiles3
[11:41] <Siilwyn> *This is world, your captain speaking.* How can I help you smiles3?
[11:41]  * iptable performs reality check
[11:42] <iptable> yup, still there
[11:42] <Siilwyn> haha
[11:49] <da_didi> i am trying to use byobu (something like screen) to open some ssh connections when i start byobu... it uses tmux but i have no clue how to write the tmux.conf - anyone uses byobu or tmux?
[11:58] <piero> buongiorno a tutti
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> !it | piero
[12:03] <rzeka> I've got 2 partitions. /dev/sda3 for /home and /dev/sda2 for /. Can I hold /var and /home on same partition?
[12:03] <cfhowlett> rzeka, you can
[12:03] <cfhowlett> !home | rzeka do the reverse of this
[12:16] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
[12:16] <Bahaar> what is the latest version of ubuntu?
[12:16] <rzeka> 14.10? ; )
[12:17] <BluesKaj_> yes 14.10
[12:18] <Bahaar> what is difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu | Bahaar,
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !kubuntu | Bahaar
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Bahaar
[12:19] <ztane> ah solved gstreamer issues in firefox by upgrading to utopic
[12:20] <BluesKaj_> gesktop encironment mostly , ubuntu use the Unity and kubuntu uses  KDE
[12:20] <BluesKaj_> desktop that is :)
[12:20] <Bahaar> cfhowlett thanks for help
[12:20] <cfhowlett> Bahaar, happy2help!
[12:22]  * BluesKaj_ has another coffee to wake up and finds his glasses
[12:24] <opengyan> hi ! i am running ubuntu 14.04. LTS on a dual core machine. its hp m/c little old but has 2 GB RAM. Problem is that after issuing the command it takes a while to see some processing
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | opengyan, lubuntu loves old machines.  test it for yourself: sudo apt-get lxde           logout, choose lubuntu session, login
[12:25] <blackangelpr> opengyan, normally when people have 2g or ram they use Lubuntu since its more light weight allows the system to have more space left on memory :p
[12:26] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu opengyan, is also an option, though it' not optimized for legacy hardware as lubuntu is
[12:26] <bazhang>  |
[12:26] <opengyan> great ! thanks cfhowlett blackangelpr & ubottu .. I will give it a try.
[12:26] <cfhowlett> opengyan, happy2help!
[12:27] <BluesKaj_> opengyan, tha't the same as this old desktop, buy some RAM, it's amazing what a difference that can make
[12:27] <cfhowlett> bazhang, ah, so *that's* what | does!  thanks.
[12:27] <bazhang> np
[12:28] <opengyan> BluesKaj_, ok whats optimum RAM recomanded ?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> opengyan, as much as you can squeeze in.
[12:29] <opengyan> cfhowlett, ok will try to get the peak of what my old motherboard can work with..
[12:29] <BluesKaj_> whatever your pc can handle , mine is capable of supporting 8G , altho 6 G seems to make enough difference to satisfy me
[12:30] <BluesKaj_> opengyan,^
[12:30] <blackangelpr> i have 8 and never get it full even with irc . steam game runing . web and other stuff
[12:31] <gheraint_is_gay> hi i had a quick question
[12:31] <BluesKaj_> opengyan, but I'm not a gamer so.....
[12:31] <gheraint_is_gay> which is better, linix or windows?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> gheraint_is_gay, to test linux, download ubuntu, make a bootable usb, boot computer with USB and make up your own mind.  MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND>
[12:32] <bazhang> klined
[12:32] <BluesKaj_> ghostcube_, what do you think that answer will be in this room
[12:32] <opengyan> BluesKaj_, yea even my usage is of dev,compiling some big code base..
[12:33] <BluesKaj_> opengyan, then more Ram will definitely help
[12:33] <cfhowlett> opengyan, more ram will also enable you to run virtualbox for testing.  fun!
[12:34] <opengyan> BluesKaj_, cfhowlett sure thanks
[12:34] <BluesKaj_> opengyan, there's nothing like more RAM to rescue an aging pc IMO
[12:39] <JuJuBee> I cannot get my network manger to start.  "sudo service networking start" -> Job failed to start.  It does not start on boot for some reason or fails to start.
[12:41] <JuJuBee> ifconfig only shows L0 not eth0 or wlan0
[12:43] <blackangelpr> cfhowlett, might a dual core support virtualization? i find more usefull 8gig and a ssd since the are becoming cheaper :P what do you think?
[12:44] <opengyan> one question though, if i am testing some graphics library,will ubuntu vs lubuntu make any difference ?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> blackangelpr, my 2009 dual pentium can run vbox ... never tested vmware or other V tools
[12:46] <blackangelpr> cfhowlett, thanks for the reply
[12:47] <cfhowlett> blackangelpr, happy2help!
[12:47] <utsav> cfhowlett, Just wanted to tell you that after restarting PC, my problem of Geany got resolved. Thanks for a great help. Now development can be without any problem....
[12:48] <cfhowlett> utsav, sweet!   happy2help!
[12:49] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, try ip add in the terminal
[12:49] <blackangelpr> just in case anyone is interested today LinuxFoundationX: LFS101x.2 Introduction to Linux started ad edx.org
[12:51] <utsav> blackangelpr, I am interested...
[12:51] <blackangelpr> utsav, https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-2
[12:51] <blackangelpr> its free
[12:52] <utsav> seems gr8, thanx
[12:54] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: doesn't that require eth0 to be recognized?
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, if an NIC with eth0 is oon the mobo , yes
[12:58] <JuJuBee> SO the NIC is working.  I tested with boot from USB and works fine.  ifconfig does not list eth0
[12:58] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: dmesg returns network interface eth0 pre-start process terminated wtih status 1
[13:01] <lron> ?
[13:03] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, lspci | grep -i net
[13:04] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: displays the RealTek wired and Qualcom wifi adapters
[13:06] <jarr0dsz> hello everyone i have an ipsec config from CentOS that I would like to port to Ubuntu, its based on ipsec and ubuntu has ipsec-tools
[13:06] <jarr0dsz> are those compatible in terms of config?
[13:07] <jarr0dsz> or should i completely redo the config in ubuntu ip-sec style or "port them over
[13:08] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, sudo dhclient eth0
[13:09] <Hijackal> how does nemo decide which folders to show in "My Computer" and "Devices"? I'd like btrfs subvolume to show up there
[13:09] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: Why does that work if eth0 was not in ifconfig list?
[13:09] <ikonia> ifconfig -a
[13:10] <JuJuBee> ikonia: thanks, did not know that switch
[13:10] <JuJuBee> So my NetorkManager tray icon indicates No connection (X over the icon) but I do have connectivity
[13:11] <ikonia> JuJuBee: where are you configuring your network card ?
[13:11] <ikonia> as in how have you tried to configure it
[13:11] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, ifconfiig is depracated , the command for 14.10 and up is "ip add"
[13:11] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I was using NetworkManger ... Using dhcp at work
[13:12] <ikonia> JuJuBee: if you configure it using network manager it should show connection in the network manager icon, if you configure it outside of it, it will not show it in network manager
[13:13] <JuJuBee> ikonia: eth0 not in the pull-down list for "Restrict to device" under NetworkManager->Add Connection
[13:13] <ikonia> Restrict to device ?
[13:14] <ikonia> JuJuBee: why are you adding ?
[13:14] <ikonia> JuJuBee: it should already exist
[13:15] <JuJuBee> ikonia: if I launch networkmanager configuration GUI and add a connection (Wired)  under the wired tab I should be able to select the NIC?
[13:15] <ikonia> JuJuBee: you shouldn't need to add it
[13:15] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I have NO connections in NetworkManager at the moment
[13:15] <ikonia> JuJuBee: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[13:16] <JuJuBee> ikonia: 14.04.1
[13:16] <ikonia> JuJuBee: standard ubuntu install, eg: desktop desktop from CD install
[13:17] <JuJuBee> All was working fine on 12/22 when I shutdown my computer for the christmas break from school.  Arrived this morning and no network connections.
[13:17] <JuJuBee> ikonia: standard desktop install from USB
[13:18] <ikonia> JuJuBee: I'd look at what updates where applied when you shut it down,
[13:18] <ikonia> JuJuBee: network connections do not just dissapear from network manager
[13:18] <JuJuBee> how do I find that info?
[13:19] <ikonia> JuJuBee: dpkg log and the syslog should give you an idea of the state of your machine when you shut it down
[13:22] <JuJuBee> ikonia: last entries from 12/18  but computer working fine on 12/22
[13:23] <Knight80> Does anybody know anything about 51-android.rules?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> Knight80, a tiny bit.  what are you trying to do
[13:26] <Knight80> cfhowlett I'm trying Ubuntu to recognise my Kurio 7s tablet in order to set the default installation location as SD External Card
[13:27] <cfhowlett> Knight80, your goal is to use the kurio as a device to boot ubuntu?
[13:27] <ikonia> JuJuBee: network connections do not just vanish, so something must have changed
[13:28] <Knight80> cfhowlett No, actually what I'm trying to do is setting the default installation directory as External Sd Card so every App I install, goes to the SD Card.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Knight80, apps installed to the device, right?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Knight80, over my head.  ##android would know more
[13:29] <Knight80> cfhowlett That's right
[13:29] <Knight80> cfhowlett Thank you
[13:39] <dannymichel> what does he mean by "and comment closing it "fi" at line 67"   here http://askubuntu.com/questions/268744/grub-hidden-menu-not-working
[13:39] <dannymichel> that doesn't make sense
[13:39] <dannymichel> add 'fi' on line 67?
[13:41] <yourbeau> I have a touchscreen laptop
[13:41] <yourbeau> does Ubuntu have multi-touch options ?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> yourbeau, yes
[13:42] <dannymichel> anyone?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> yourbeau, from 14.04.1 on ... not sure about 12.04
[13:42] <yourbeau> I am using 14.04.1
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !patience | dannymichel,
[13:43] <yourbeau> cfhowlett, but where is configuratiosn ?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> yourbeau, settings > mouse and touchpad IIRC
[13:44] <wlmiami> fags
[13:44] <wlmiami> fags!
[13:44] <wlmiami> fags!!
[13:44] <wlmiami> fags!!!
[13:44] <wlmiami> fags!!!!
[13:44] <wlmiami> fags!!!!!
[13:44] <unopaste> wlmiami you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !ops | wlmiami ban please
[13:45] <cfhowlett> danke k1l_
[13:45] <k1l_> np :)
[13:47] <jatt> dannymichel: it means comment both lines
[13:47] <dannymichel> tried that and get errors when i try to update grub
[13:48] <dannymichel> nothing seems to work. i have a black screen.
[13:49] <jatt> pastebin the modified file and the errors
[13:50] <JuJuBee> ikonia: sorry, had to step out.
[13:51] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I agree something must have changed, but I do not change it.
[13:52] <JuJuBee> ikonia: to top it off, there are connections under /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[13:53] <JuJuBee> ikonia: looks like the probelm is network manager is not starting?
[13:59] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, I'll ask the obvious , have you run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[14:02] <nonamae> what is that webpage what has lot of repositories? (for firefox gtk3)
[14:03] <hanshenrik__> wat? i guess github qualify
[14:04] <jarr0dsz> has anyone done an ipsec on ubuntu
[14:05] <BluesKaj_> jarr0dsz, I did a while back and it worked ok , but I switched to openvpn
[14:05] <jarr0dsz> im trying to get ipsec auto --up <conn> name but it just "hangs"
[14:07] <cristian_c> Hi
[14:07] <fokus> !Fokus
[14:07] <cristian_c> I'd like to slow down a video. I've tried with mencoder and sleep parameter, but I can't understand how to correctly use it
[14:07] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[14:09] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: yes
[14:09] <cristian_c> *speed parameter', sorry
[14:12] <BluesKaj_> jarr0dsz, L2TP/ipsec ?  this worked for me, https://launchpad.net/~seriy-pr/+archive/ubuntu/network-manager-l2tp
[14:13] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: when I ran the restart commnad is when I got the failed message
[14:13] <jarr0dsz> thanks the   141  ipsec auto --up 'Name' does not output anything it does on centos though im new to ubuntu
[14:14] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, got any other NICs lying around, the one you are using could be damaged somehow
[14:14] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I did a --reinstall for NetworkManager and rebooted and still when I hover over the NM icon it says is not running.
[14:14] <dougquaid> My root fs is mounted with the option errors=remount-ro and the other day it did remount read only. How can I tell what caused it to remount?
[14:14] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: built in NIC for laptop
[14:14] <JuJuBee> The nic works if I boot int windows or USB
[14:15] <k1l_> dougquaid: see dmesg
[14:15] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, does the wifi chip work?
[14:15] <k1l_> dougquaid: it gets remounted as ro if there are some errors. so see the logs
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, the you oibviously need the driver for the NIC , check the make and chip and look for the driver in the repos
[14:18] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: if I do dhclient eth0 I get a dhcp address and the system works fine.  Even though hovering over the NM icon says NetworkManger is not running.  Doesn't that mean I have the driver?
[14:19] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, looks like it works with a static IP, if that's the case then remove network manager if you're desperate :)
[14:20] <InteliBlentav> guys
[14:20] <ikonia> JuJuBee: no idea why you did a reinstall or what you thought that was going to do
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> InteliBlentav: ask your question mate
[14:21] <JuJuBee> ikonia: thought NM might be broken...
[14:21] <InteliBlentav> i'm trying to tunnel all my network through tor on ubuntu
[14:21] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: DHCP not static.
[14:21] <InteliBlentav> and when i setup in network
[14:21] <InteliBlentav> only browser goes through it
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !tor | InteliBlentav
[14:23] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, yes, but running static might solve your problem
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> InteliBlentav: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/324685/how-to-route-all-internet-traffic-through-tor-the-onion-router
[14:25] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, I used this for yrs before I needed NM to connect to vpn servers http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[14:25] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: temporarily, but when I take my laptop to another location what then?  also how can I manage my wifi adapter now?
[14:26] <ikonia> I'd be more concerned what has happened to your system
[14:26] <ikonia> network manager does not just drop interface devices
[14:26] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, Iasked you before if you used the wifi, you didn't answer so assumed you used ethernet only
[14:27] <niee> hi folks :) any one to help me please? "Could not open location 'sftp://192.168.11.11:1777/' --- ssh program unexpectedly exited" any ideas how to fix this error?
[14:27] <JuJuBee> Sorry, missed that question.
[14:27] <JuJuBee> I use my wifi card for my VM on my laptop or when I am out like at a starbucks
[14:28] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, ikonia makes a good point
[14:29] <BluesKaj_> NM shouldn't be dropping you ethernet connection ...I still think the driver is mucked up or missing
[14:29] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee,&^
[14:29] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: how so?  that network connections don't just vanish?
[14:30] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: I will try to locate the driver and resinstall it manually...
[14:30] <BluesKaj_> the driver is not working, that's for sure
[14:31] <zxc98001> .
[14:32] <BluesKaj_> not working with NM that is , JuJuBee so the situation is more complicated than just installing a new driver
[14:32] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee,^
[14:33] <RNeville> Wow, my Ubuntu 14.04 boot time just seems to be getting longer - was quick, now slow!
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> RNeville: updates recently?
[14:33] <RNeville> lotuspsychje: yes
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> RNeville: any new services you installed?
[14:34] <ubuntu_> ;)
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[14:34] <RNeville> does pastebinit, count
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> RNeville: you could change your grub "quiet plash" to "" and sudo update-grub
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> RNeville: see what happens at boot, or dmesg logs
[14:35] <thom__> italia for ever
[14:35] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: so I ran dhclient eth0 and got an ip address then ran service network-manager start and the NM icon shows a wired connection now but does not list any wifi conenctions available
[14:35] <RNeville> lotuspsychje: not sure how to dmesg my logs - I'm a newbie to linux
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> RNeville: dmesg in terminal
[14:36] <RNeville> lotuspsychje: which logs, pls?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | RNeville
[14:37] <BluesKaj_> JuJuBee, well it won't show the wifi if the ethernet cable is connected afaik
[14:37] <InteliBlentav> dude
[14:37] <Pici> 70
[14:37] <InteliBlentav> lotuspsychje,
[14:37] <InteliBlentav> i tried
[14:38] <InteliBlentav> the from askubuntu
[14:38] <InteliBlentav> and now my browsers
[14:38] <InteliBlentav> wont connect at all
[14:39] <RNeville> lotuspsychje: here is the output for the dmesg command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9676880/
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> RNeville: wow thats alot of radeon issues
[14:40] <InteliBlentav> guy pleas help
[14:40] <RNeville> no idea, what to do about these issues lotuspsychje
[14:40] <InteliBlentav> i pink sites
[14:40] <InteliBlentav> and unknown host get,
[14:40] <InteliBlentav> but i can install remove packeges
[14:40] <InteliBlentav> and use irc
[14:40] <InteliBlentav> can you help me ?
[14:41] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: I have had both connections available before...
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> RNeville: try to switch drivers
[14:41] <mh_> mh
[14:41] <RNeville> thx lotuspsychje
[14:41] <JuJuBee> one for my host (ubuntu) and one for the vm guest (windows)
[14:42] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj_: might be time to upgrade or reinstall 14.04...  my wifi connections just randomly showed up
[14:42] <InteliBlentav> guys :(
[14:43] <blackangelpr> !patience, InteliBlentav
[14:44] <mucus> hello!  for some reason the filesystem on my ubu is saying i have 0 bytes free, but i have about 2tera free at /var
[14:44] <mucus> how do i . . . make that do something?
[14:44] <InteliBlentav> free ?
[14:44] <mucus> available.
[14:44] <mucus> not being used
[14:44] <InteliBlentav> what exactly says u have 0 bytes left
[14:44] <InteliBlentav> your home dir ?
[14:45] <mucus> if i go to the root there, the folder marked "file system"
[14:46] <InteliBlentav> mucus, not sure what your saying, can you pwd the dir
[14:46] <mucus> yeah
[14:47] <mucus> alirght /dev/root says it's completely full
[14:47] <mucus> 100% storage in use
[14:47] <somsip> mucus: so you have another drive mounted on /var which is relatively empty, but the / or /home is full?
[14:47] <mucus> but /dev/sda3 is nearly empty
[14:47] <mucus> and i'd like to use that space for /root
[14:47] <InteliBlentav> wait are those 2 hds or 1 ?
[14:48] <mucus> it's 1 hdd but partitioned
[14:48] <InteliBlentav> can you enter root folder ?
[14:48] <mucus> yes i can
[14:49] <mucus> i am root user
[14:49] <InteliBlentav> and whats in it ?
[14:49] <somsip> mucus: so you need to move the partitions round a bit. Maybe split whichever is mounted as /var into a smaller /var and something else mounted somewhere it will help. Reads like you've set up partitioning badly though, and it may be a faffy solution whatever you do
[14:49] <jmoiron> i've been reading about 802.11ac support for pcie cards and i've found that a few popular chipsets don't appear to have drivers;  does anyone have any suggestions for a supported card?
[14:51] <BluesKaj_> 14.04 was always problematic for mer, LTS or not I couldn't wait to upgrade to 14.10...it's much more stable IME, JuJuBee
[14:53] <poo-bear> hi
[14:55] <VimFleed> hey, I've installed gwibber, but I can't start it, when I run gwibber from the commandline I get bash: gwibber: command not found
[14:59] <alexis__> hello everyone
[15:02] <HamRadio> Hey Guys, I have a quick question, when Ubuntu 14.04.2 comes out, are they going to update the official graphics driver as well?
[15:02] <lord4163> Really? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn Can't you just sync /etc/passwd, /etc/groups and /etc/shadow? :P
[15:02] <ikonia> lord4163: sync it with what ?
[15:03] <lord4163> ikonia: rsync
[15:03] <HamRadio> Channel seems kinda dead considering 1,731 people in it
[15:03] <ikonia> lord4163: with what though ?
[15:03] <ikonia> lord4163: rsync them against what ?
[15:03] <lord4163> ikonia: it's just so complicated to do such a simple thing?
[15:03] <ikonia> lord4163: against what ?
[15:03] <BluesKaj_> HamRadio, what's your gpu?
[15:03] <ikonia> lord4163: what are you trying to actually do ?
[15:04] <toothfairy_> Hmm, Im a little bit stuck ... trying to start a process using supervisor, sudo supervisorctl start app , it returns:  casinofeber: ERROR (abnormal termination), the supervisor app file basicly contains "[program:app] command = /webapps/app/bin/gunicorn_start;user=odin;"  if I run the command manually with same user it executes fine.. Any ideas?
[15:04] <HamRadio> nVidia Geforce 755m
[15:04] <lord4163> ikonia: against a central server
[15:04] <LarsN> HamRadio: de Whiskey Nine Zulu Echo Bravo ;)
[15:04] <ikonia> lord4163: thats not a good idea
[15:04] <lord4163> ikonia: I want to have a server with all users/passwords and have many clients connect, and have their nfs share connected on /home
[15:04] <HamRadio> BluesKaj_ nVidia Geforce 755m
[15:04] <toothfairy_> app: ERROR (abnormal termination), I meant it returns ....
[15:04] <HamRadio> English LarsN
[15:04] <ikonia> lord4163: then use  central auth such as ldap
[15:04] <dannymichel> pressing shift doesn't give me a grub menu and when i edit grub and do grub hidden timeout 10 i still don't get a grub menu
[15:04] <LarsN> HamRadio: that is English.
[15:05] <lord4163> ikonia: I don't understand that
[15:05] <HamRadio> Oh, I see.....lol LarsN
[15:05] <ikonia> lord4163: then you need to learn it
[15:05] <ikonia> lord4163: it's important to have a central identitiy system
[15:05] <BluesKaj_> HamRadio, using the nvidia-331 driver?
[15:05] <LarsN> ikonia, lord4163: I support the use of LDAP ;)
[15:06] <HamRadio> The official nVidia driver for Ubuntu 14.04 is rather old, and and wondering if they are going to update that as well as the kernel in 14.04.2
[15:06] <lord4163> LarsN: No kidding why people don't deploy Ubuntu and setup a windows active directory server instead.
[15:06] <HamRadio> BluesKaj_: I think it's the nvidia-304 driver
[15:06] <ikonia> lord4163: you can use it against AD - AD is just ldap
[15:06] <ikonia> lord4163: if you have an AD setup, you can intergrate ubuntu into that
[15:06] <HamRadio> whichever one is the official on in ubuntu 14.04
[15:07] <vifino> HamRadio: Try xorg edgers if you really need the latest drivers.
[15:07] <vifino> Be warned: Might be unstable.
[15:07] <LarsN> lord4163: as ikonia said, Active Directory is just ldap.
[15:07] <lord4163> ikonia: Not really, I tried, but you have to specify the DOMAIN NAME\USERNAME instead just username.
[15:07] <ikonia> lord4163: only for membership
[15:08] <ikonia> lord4163: sounds like you need to be a bit more indeapth research
[15:08] <HamRadio> yeah, I have seen that stuff vifino.....that's why I haven't installed those....was hoping the official one will get updated when the kernel get's updates
[15:08] <vifino> HamRadio: Can happen, may not.
[15:09] <HamRadio> vifino: yeah
[15:09] <BluesKaj_> HamRadio, check your additional drivers , a newer recommended driver may be available
[15:09] <lord4163> ikonia: I don't know I had it working with samba, could login and had everything working, but you have to specify the domain name in LIGHTDM
[15:09] <lord4163> ikonia: stupidity
[15:10] <ikonia> what is stupidity ?
[15:10] <HamRadio> BluesKaj, thanks....I will do that, I did that not to long ago and all that was offered was nvidia-304 driver which is rather old
[15:10] <lord4163> ikonia: that you can't just login using your username.
[15:11] <ikonia> lord4163: you can
[15:11] <ikonia> lord4163: you've just not set it up properly
[15:11] <lord4163> ikonia: Linux is such a flexible system, but noone has a real solution to this using native Linux technologies like NFS.
[15:11] <BluesKaj_> HamRadio, how does the driver perform?, a newer driver may not help
[15:11] <ikonia> lord4163: what are you on about ?
[15:11] <ikonia> lord4163: NFS has been available as a "real solution" for 20+ years on linux
[15:12] <lord4163> ikonia: I'm just pointing out, that if we want linux adoption, this is not the way.
[15:12] <ikonia> what is not the way ?
[15:12] <ikonia> what the devil are you talking about
[15:12] <HamRadio> BluesKaj, it seems to do alright.....I don't do a lot of big gaming so I don't push it to the max
[15:13] <BluesKaj_> HamRadio, right, I have a 346 nvidia capable gpu , but the 331 driver serves the purpose here just fine.
[15:14] <tomodachi> is it just me or is restricting commands over ssh not working?
[15:14] <ikonia> how are you restricting them ?
[15:14] <HamRadio> Blueskaj_, hm, ok....well I guess I will just leave it be. Thanks. :) Ok, got to go do the animals....sun just came up :) be back later
[15:14] <onemansubmarine> hi is there a channel for problems in thunderbird?
[15:14] <tomodachi> i use command="$HOME/notify
[15:14] <drealer> helo
[15:14] <tomodachi> then key
[15:15] <lord4163> ikonia: The complexity of something simple.
[15:15] <tomodachi> ikonia:
[15:15] <lord4163> ikonia: and what did I do wrong btw?
[15:15] <ikonia> lord4163: I suggest you learn/read it's pretty simple/straight forward
[15:15] <ikonia> and I'm getting pretty tired of you making nonsense statements and calling everything stupid
[15:15] <drealer> how can i runmy terminal as root ?
[15:15] <ikonia> drealer: use sudo $command in the terminal
[15:16] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: the terminal process should be run as your user, but the shell inside it can be elevated to root
[15:16] <tomodachi> ikonia:  command="$HOME/notify",no-agent-forwarding,no-port-forwarding,no-pty,no-user-rc,no-X11-forwarding
[15:16] <ikonia> tomodachi: where are you doing that ?
[15:16] <tsak> i have a question? Does anybody here use Autohotkey in windows? And what would be the best alternative in Linux for it?
[15:16] <onemansubmarine> is there a way for thunderbird to show the information of downloading/sending progress, connection status, etc?
[15:16] <lord4163> ikonia: What should I read? That stupidly long paper that doesn't give exact instructions on how to set it up?
[15:17] <ikonia> lord4163: whatever you want
[15:17] <onemansubmarine> I missed it since i migrated from claws mail where I had detailed information
[15:17] <jpds> onemansubmarine: Tools → Activity Manager.
[15:17] <tomodachi> ikonia:  in my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys     , i just get logged in directly
[15:17] <lord4163> ikonia: that's not exactly an answer
[15:17] <ikonia> lord4163: my answer is, I'm not interested in your issues any more
[15:17] <onemansubmarine> jpds: thx, but there is no way to have it always displayed as a bar
[15:18] <ikonia> tomodachi: you don't put command in your authorized_keys
[15:18] <jpds> onemansubmarine: I have some activity in the status bar, but it's so fast I barely see it.
[15:18] <thom__> ikonia you are a master of this chat?
[15:18] <ikonia> thom__: nope
[15:19] <thom__> qualcuno mi può aiutare? xD
[15:20] <ikonia> thom__: channel is for English language please.
[15:20] <thom__> ah okay, i'm sorry.
[15:21] <BigBawb_> Sorry I lost connection
[15:21] <tomodachi> ikonia: where should i place it , this is my interpretation of how it works, the server in its authorized keys restricts the use of users connectin holding that key
[15:22] <ikonia> tomodachi: authorized keys restricts access
[15:22] <ikonia> tomodachi: it doesn't dictate what commands the users can run
[15:23] <BigBawb_> Did my question get sent before my internet dropped?
[15:23] <BluesKaj_> BigBawb, don't think so
[15:24] <BigBawb> okay sorry.
[15:24] <BigBawb> Im dual booting Ubuntu/Windows. Windows my internet speed is just fine. Ubuntu the wireless drops about 5-6 times
[15:24] <BigBawb> Like my speed test scored about 750kb
[15:24] <BigBawb> Windows its 7.5mb
[15:25] <tsak> im searchiing same time alternative program for linux, but like ironAHK has had last update like 3 years ago?
[15:26] <ubuntu601> hi
[15:27] <ubuntu601> how to install pgadmin3 version 1.20 in ubuntu 14.04  Please help thanks
[15:28] <ubuntu601> how to install pgadmin3 version 1.20 in ubuntu 14.04  Please help thanks.
[15:28] <xangua> ubuntu601: if it's not in official ubuntu repositories means either search a PPA repository or compile it
 thanks not there in ppa
[15:30] <ubuntu601> thanks <xangua>
[15:30] <KamalKaur> Greetings!
[15:30] <KamalKaur> I want to ask the use of changing a user group to www-data for users?
[15:31] <somsip> KamalKaur: normally you would add them to that group
[15:31] <KamalKaur> but why?
[15:32] <tomodachi> ikonia: so where do i add it , on the client side?! then it doesent make any sence really since any client can modify it or remove it
[15:32] <KamalKaur> somsip: Any particular reasons in your mind?
[15:32] <somsip> KamalKaur: give me chance to type
[15:32] <KamalKaur> somsip: Sorry, take your time :)
[15:33] <tsak> hmm i found xautomation...
[15:33] <ikonia> tomodachi: it's a server setting
[15:33] <tsak> maybe that is the best what linux has to offer? :P
[15:36]  * KamalKaur waiting for a response
[15:39] <BigBawb> Anyone? Slow wireless connection on Ubuntu
[15:39] <BigBawb> Im dual booting and on windows its fine
[15:40] <dannymichel> pressing shift doesn't give me a grub menu and when i edit grub and do grub hidden timeout 10 i still don't get a grub menu. i get a blank screen when booting for the first time. I'm trying to access boot options so i can boot. is there any way to maybe install nvidia drivers from  the live cd
[15:42] <KamalKaur> somsip: Should I keep waiting?
[15:43] <BigBawb> :)
[15:52] <KamalKaur> Does anyone know the use of changing user group to www-data on servers?
[15:52] <reisio> KamalKaur: doing what?
[15:53] <KamalKaur> reisio: A user under group www-data
[15:54] <KamalKaur> WHen we create new user, a group of his own name is created, by default
[15:56] <reisio> KamalKaur: yes, and?
[15:57] <KamalKaur> And why would one change it to www-data? reisio
[15:57] <reisio> KamalKaur: I doubt "one" would _change it_ to www-data
[15:57] <reisio> one might add a user to that group
[15:57] <reisio> so that it shares some of the privileges of that group
[15:57] <daftykins> in 14.04 the web document root is owned by root as default
[15:57] <KamalKaur> reisio: Yes, thats what I meant
[15:57] <reisio> which is used by other things by default, for web server things
[15:58] <KamalKaur> What is meant by for web server things?
[15:58] <KamalKaur> Simply..  you can point me to a link where all this is defined
[15:58] <KamalKaur> -_-
[15:58]  * KamalKaur thinks is the question was really stupid -_-
[15:58] <daftykins> KamalKaur: yes, the english isn't so great.
[15:59] <scheuri> hi everyone.....I might have a stupid question: I have a (minecraftserver, java) process started in a terminal on xubuntu and then ssh'ed into the same machine...how can I "take over" the process on the new (ssh) terminal and then "give back" to the other terminal without interuption...is that possible?
[15:59] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: what wireless card are you using ?  (in particular, what chip set)
[15:59] <daftykins> scheuri: run it with 'screen' in future
[15:59] <reisio> scheuri: ideally you'd start it via a 'screen' (or tmux) session in the first place
[15:59] <reisio> scheuri: but you could try reptyr for now
[15:59] <popey> scheuri: http://serverfault.com/questions/55880/moving-an-already-running-process-to-screen maybe use reptyr?
[16:00] <scheuri> it is not problem to stop and then start with screen again...if that helps...so it would be "screen ./launch.sh"?
[16:00] <reisio> scheuri: nope :)
[16:00] <reisio> scheuri: but 'screen', _then_ './launch.sh' would suffice
[16:01] <scheuri> reisio: thanks a lot....so it is "screen", enter, then "./launch.sh" to make it "movable" between terminals (for the lack of a better word :))
[16:01] <scheuri> (or at least easier to move)
[16:01] <reisio> scheuri: yeah
[16:01] <reisio> scheuri: screen -list, screen -d -r #
[16:02] <reisio> scheuri: or if you ran 'screen -S minecraft' in the first place, instead of just 'screen', you could use screen -d -r minecraft to re-attach
[16:02] <scheuri> reisio: thanks, very much appriciated...now, when I log in, how would I move it from one terminal to the other? is it the screen command again (with a PID?)
[16:02] <reisio> see previous
[16:02] <scheuri> reisio: sorry, was too slow ;)
[16:02] <reisio> :p
[16:02] <scheuri> reisio: thanks a lot...will try it right away
[16:03] <reisio> incredibly handy app, screen
[16:04] <scheuri> reisio: one more (stupid) question....once started with screen in one terminal...I can take it over with -d -r....how do I put it back into background (so I can grab it again with the other console)?
[16:04] <vifino> reisio: tmux all the way! :P
[16:04] <scheuri> because taking it over and then closing the terminal I would say it will be terminated, right?
[16:05] <BigBawb> petepiano1960: Im using a usb adapter
[16:06] <Jabo> running gdb on my CFD application (OpenFOAM) I get this output:
[16:06] <Jabo> Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
[16:06] <Jabo> 0x00007fffefe5ca95 in __ieee754_pow_sse2 (x=-8.3971653326644913e-06, y=0.33333333333333331) at ../sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64/e_pow.c:157
[16:06] <Jabo> 157	../sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64/e_pow.c: No such file or directory.
[16:06] <Jabo> does that mean it's crashing because I don't have e_pow.c ?
[16:06] <ablest1980> hi
[16:07] <scheuri> reisio: sorry, I think I start to get it....my bad...was thinking more....two dimensional ;)
[16:07] <scheuri> reisio: thanks for your help
[16:09] <theadmin> Jabo: No, it means that there's an arithmetic exception. Like division by zero or some such. And it happens in e_pow.c.
[16:09] <theadmin> Oh, wait.
[16:09] <theadmin> Hm... Strange enough. The error is caused by that file, but it doesn't exist?
[16:10] <Jabo> yep, I can't find it with grep either
[16:11] <daum> hey guys - i'm trying to install an updated version of gnucash on trusty, however after following how to add the getdeb repo, i now get https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4d525159519cab241119 when i try to install it, any ideas how to fix those errors?
[16:20] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: not enough info I'm afraid.  There are lots of those.  Slow wifi is frequently caused by driver issues (which are specific to the chipset in the USB adaptor) or can be fixed by appropriate module options.
[16:20] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: try running 'sudo lshw' and look for a likely wifi candidate in there
[16:21] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: search for something like "wlan".   Somewhere around that you should see the product name, driver version, etc
[16:21] <jimmy51v_> is it reasonable to open up a port for SSH to an ubuntu box over the internet?
[16:22] <jimmy51v_> or is that a big no-no
[16:22] <BigBawb> petepiano1960: I know the product name I just meant it wasnt a built in card
[16:22] <somsip> jimmy51v_: what authorisation methods do you intend to allow?
[16:22] <BigBawb> heres the specific one
[16:22] <BigBawb> http://www.edimax.com/edimax/merchandise/merchandise_detail/data/edimax/global/wireless_adapters_n150/ew-7811un
[16:23] <niee> hi folks :) any one to help me please? "Could not open location 'sftp://192.168.11.11:1777/' --- ssh program unexpectedly exited" any ideas how to fix this error?
[16:23] <jimmy51v_> somsip: i guess i usually just log in.  say 'yes' to the trust warning and log in.
[16:23] <jimmy51v_> i've never had it opened up outside of my own network though
[16:23] <somsip> jimmy51v_: with a password or with a key?
[16:23] <jimmy51v_> somsip: password
[16:24] <jimmy51v_> somsip: in the past i've ran ssh ipaddress -l jimmy
[16:24] <daftykins> jimmy51v_: i would use a non-standard port number, consider using fail2ban and also consider key auth as somsip is suggesting (sort of)
[16:24] <jimmy51v_> !info fail2ban
[16:25] <petepiano1960> jimmy51v_: BigBawb what version of ubuntu are you on ?
[16:25] <somsip> jimmy51v_: I wouldn't personally allow password only access. Key-based is much more secure. Security by obfuscation (using, say 1022 instead of 22) can avoid some hits but will not really protect. And Fail2Ban is worthwhile as daftykins is saying
[16:25] <petepiano1960> Sorry!
[16:25] <petepiano1960> BigBawb:  what version of ubuntu are you on ?
[16:25] <jimmy51v_> ok.  is key-based something i could remember if i were on a strange machine?
[16:26] <jimmy51v_> sorry... poor phrasing.  is the key something i could remember?
[16:26] <reisio> scheuri: you can "detach" explicitly with CTRL+a, then d
[16:26] <reisio> scheuri: but you can also just close whatever term is using it, or forget about it, etc.
[16:26] <BigBawb> petepiano1960:
[16:26] <somsip> jimmy51v_: you create a pair of keys - two files. You need one to login. You should use them very securely. You can password protect them too
[16:26] <BigBawb> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[16:26] <BigBawb> sorry
[16:27] <jimmy51v_> ok
[16:27] <somsip> jimmy51v_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[16:27] <jimmy51v_> so i would likely need my laptop or other trusted machine with me (and the keys on it) to be able to log in
[16:27] <somsip> jimmy51v_: that would be best. You *can* use password only, but I see how many probes I get on SSH ports and it's scarey enough to encourage me to use key-based only
[16:28] <jimmy51v_> ok
[16:28] <jimmy51v_> thanks guys
[16:28] <jimmy51v_> i'll try to set that up at home tonight and see if i can get it working
[16:28] <jimmy51v_> that'll be better than talking my wife through shell commands :)
[16:29] <cached> why is every kde app without exception garbage?
[16:30] <daftykins> heh
[16:31] <reisio> cached: that's KDE's MO
[16:31] <reisio> kinda what happens when you embrace early on a proprietary C++ GUI toolkit
[16:31] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: looks like there are known issues with that chipset (RTL8188CUS).
[16:32] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: You could try this  - https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[16:32] <BluesKaj> cached, sweeping opinions like that mean nothing
[16:32] <mutual> how do I check to see if my /home directory is on a separate partition?
[16:33] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: Also see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/551522/netis-wf2120-wifi-adapter-drops-signal-within-seconds
[16:33] <mutual> i can't remember if I did it during setup
[16:33] <gsmoke> greetings
[16:33] <cfhowlett> mutual, sudo fdisk -l
[16:33] <BigBawb> petepiano1960: I did my share of googling but didnt find this thank you I will surely read
[16:34] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: np
[16:34] <mutual> cfhowlett, http://pastebin.com/SN7KjuGk
[16:35] <mutual> cfhowlett, i know how to find that information, but i can't tell which partition is which
[16:35] <cfhowlett> mutual, wait 1
[16:35] <mutual> ok
[16:35] <BluesKaj> mutual, to make sure check with gparted
[16:36] <squeegily_> It turns out that when playing videos it was the audio that it was choking on
[16:36] <squeegily_> When I forced my media player to use ALSA audio output everything worked like a charm
[16:36] <mutual> BluesKaj, right I already have it open i just don't know what i'm looking for here
[16:36] <squeegily_> PulseAudio was killing it
[16:36] <mutual> BluesKaj, is sda1 my home and sda2 / ?
[16:36] <squeegily_> I can't believe I almost installed 12.04.1 just to try to fix this
[16:38] <daftykins> squeegily_: hmm, could be there's insufficient beans to drive it i suppose
[16:38] <BluesKaj> mutual, ext partition /home
[16:39] <mutual> BluesKaj, gparted says "ext4 mount point /" for the largest partition
[16:39] <mutual> "extended" for the smaller one
[16:41] <BluesKaj> mutual, right click on the partitions/information to ID them by their status
[16:42] <mutual> BluesKaj, first one says "mounted on /" and the others say not mounted
[16:42] <mucus> what happens if i unmount /dev/root?
[16:42] <squeegily_> daftykins: Beans being CPU power?
[16:42] <bubbasaures> mutual, I see no extra home 2 partitions sda1 ubuntu sda2 a extended containing sda5 a swap
[16:42] <mutual> bubbasaures, so no separate home? :(
[16:42] <daftykins> squeegily_: and general spec yeah
[16:42] <cfhowlett> mucus, you should not be unmounting anything from a live system
[16:43] <BluesKaj> mutual, mount the others to see the info
[16:43] <bubbasaures> mutual, Sorry yes seperate
[16:43] <mutual> bubbasaures, it is separate?
[16:43] <mutual> BluesKaj ok
[16:44] <bubbasaures> mutual, However you can separate it now https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving  No seperate home that I can see.
[16:44] <mucus> okay so i've installed gparted onto my system, is there a way that during my machine's startup gparted can auto run a partition shrink and then expand a different partiton?
[16:44] <bubbasaures> mucus, on startup no.
[16:44] <mucus> i'd have to install gparted as a os(thing?) and boot into that?
[16:45] <bubbasaures> mucus, All that needs to be unmounted to change, a live disk/usb is the standard way.
[16:45] <reisio> mucus: a way, sure
[16:45] <BluesKaj> mucus, gparted is best run from separate media like usb or cd, that gives you control over all the partitions
[16:45] <mucus> i don't have seperate media available to me
[16:46] <mucus> i just have the hdd,
[16:46] <bubbasaures> mucus, Best tol you can have and should have.
[16:46] <bubbasaures> tool*
[16:46] <daftykins> mucus: or just boot a live session
[16:46] <cfhowlett> mucus, buy a USB.  they're cheap.  keep it close.
[16:46] <mucus> cfhowlett: it's a remote server, i can't physically access it
[16:47] <cfhowlett> mucus, doh!  right.  different scenario.
[16:47] <mucus> yeah
[16:47] <mucus> elseif: live usb and done.
[16:48] <ylzhan> Hi, does Xorg support WebGL?
[16:48] <mucus> hm, i'm gonna have to ssh this . . . aren't i?
[16:48] <squeegily_> ylzhan: This is an interesting question
[16:49] <squeegily_> Your browser supports WebGL. If X.org supports your browser then yes
[16:49] <bubbasaures> mucus, So this is an external install, is that not like really important initial info?
[16:49] <squeegily_> So if you're using Elinks it won't
[16:49] <neopsyche> Hi all
[16:50] <mucus> bubbasaures: as in critical data?  nothing critical, but i would like to keep the os/filesystem intact and what not
[16:50] <neopsyche> Quick question.  Is it normal for all processors on core i5 to be running at between 1 to 10% on programs when they are "idle" ?
[16:50] <ylzhan> It works with proprietary drivers but not with xorg even when I activate it in chrome://flags
[16:50] <BluesKaj> mucus, not sure but you might be able to use parted in the terminal to edit your remote server partitions
[16:50] <bubbasaures> mucus, You misunderstand, where is the OS that you want to resize, in your house or external?
[16:51] <mucus> external
[16:51] <bubbasaures> mucus, First bit of info that should have been given is all, just info for you to get best help.
[16:52] <mucus> okay, thank you bubbasaures
[16:52] <bubbasaures> mucus, No problem we just want you up and working. ;)
[16:53] <mucus> me too~
[16:54] <neopsyche> Quick question. Asking again  Is it normal for all processors on core i5 to be running at between 1 to 10% on programs when they are "idle" ?
[16:54] <mucus> so could i go ahead and unmount /dev/sda3 - create another partition from that.  on the new partition just install gparted.  that way when i go to resize /sda3 and/root i won't be interfering with anything?
[16:54] <neopsyche> If someone could help me out with that Q I really appreciate it.
[16:54] <mucus> or since it's all the same physical disk it really doesn't matter?
[16:55] <squeegily_> Hey guys. Suspend doesn't work on my Acer Aspire One AO751h. But it DOES work after I resume from hibernate. So there's something that normally happens during boot that breaks suspend that doesn't happend when resuming from hibernate. Any ideas on where to start looking?
[16:55] <compdoc> neopsyche, that doesnt sound horrible. what does top say is using the cpu?
[16:55] <teward> neopsyche: that's not abnormal, no, what's `top` say is using the CPU, and what's your load averages
[16:55] <lucas_> hi
[16:56] <teward> neopsyche: (my system idles 1 - 10% on each CPU, but i have the occasional check-in pings from my service monitor at home which push that)
[16:56] <lucas_> join #rails
[16:57] <bubbasaures> neopsyche, Your heart beats when you sleep, you computer when on is always processing something.
[16:57] <BigBawb> petepiano1960: It sped it up noticeably
[16:57] <squeegily_> I want to completely purge PulseAudio from my system. How should I go about this?
[16:57] <BigBawb> its not as good as windows but its now to 2mbps
[16:58] <Seveas> squeegily_: invent a timemachine and go back to 2008 :)
[16:59] <dk0r> I would like to install 14.10 on a usb stick so that I can have a sort of roaming installation which I can boot from on any PC. Would someone pls suggest a link w/ instructions?
[16:59] <rico_> looking for a good live distro
[16:59] <squeegily_> Seveas: That's the thing is I'm in 2008 but all the hackers here are from 2015 and so my system needs to be 2015-era secure on 2008 hardware
[16:59] <rico_> lol@ Seveas
[17:00] <bubbasaures> rico_, Why here on a specific OS channel.
[17:00] <mucus> i still can't figure out how to repartition my remote server . . .
[17:01] <compdoc> very carefully
[17:01] <mucus> which is against my nature, so it's even more difficult
[17:01] <neopsyche> compdoc: im not saying its horrible.. im just asking if its normal
[17:01] <bubbasaures> squeegily_, What release is this you were looking at eol's yesterday
[17:02] <squeegily_> compdoc: Oh man my friend and I had the same problem a couple months ago
[17:02] <compdoc> 'isnt horrible' means it does happen
[17:02] <squeegily_> bubbasaures: I was considering downgrading to 12.04.1 since the problems might have been the kernel's fault
[17:02] <squeegily_> But I found out (in time, fortunately) that PulseAudio was to blame
[17:03] <bubbasaures> squeegily_,  How long you been using linux?
[17:03] <dk0r> I would like to install 14.10 on a usb stick so that I can have a sort of roaming installation which I can boot from on any PC. Would someone pls suggest a link w/ instructions?
[17:03] <neopsyche> compdoc: i finally fixed (workaround) the acpi issue from hell.. causing kworker to cause cpu overload on samsung ultrabook.. the battery acpi feature takes longer to detect power supply now. But at least it sort of works.. (doesnt show power time to charge very efficiently) but hey.. at least its ubuntu.  Also wish I could optimize power like on windoze.. but cant win em all I guess.. at least .. not easily.. battery on ubuntu power 2 hours.. battery
[17:03] <neopsyche> on windows 4 hours + (when purchased)
[17:03] <neopsyche> :-)
[17:04] <squeegily_> bubbasaures: Since 12.04 was coming out.. I remember thinking to myself "how lucky I am that right as I join the LTS release is new" at the time
[17:04] <squeegily_> So I started Linux mid-2012
[17:05] <squeegily_> I've been to Arch and back since then
[17:05] <bubbasaures> dk0r, Most apps that load ISO's to a usb have a persistence option, which saves what you do. However this setup has it's limitations as even a full install on a usb would have.
[17:05] <squeegily_> Ironically I switched back to Ubuntu so things would just work..
[17:05] <neopsyche> compdoc: thx
[17:05] <neopsyche> later peepz
[17:06] <mucus> what i'm thinking of doing is unmounting /dev/sda3 from my live system, shrink it by about 5gb, remount /dev/sda3 create a new partition with the 5gb probably called /dev/sda4  install gparted at /sda4  edit grub so gparted can boot  reboot with some command so that on startup gparted is automatically selected.  ssh and run commands to shrink /dev/sda3  and add the new space to /dev/root
[17:06] <dk0r> bubbasaures, I don't really get the persistent usb thing. Why not just install directly to the usb stick?
[17:06] <mucus> am i thinking about this right?
[17:06] <bubbasaures> squeegily_, Keep in mind this is support and not chat is all please.
[17:06] <bubbasaures> dk0r, Go for it, really you need to do some research on this.
[17:07] <torrente> can i connect on freenode with shared ip?
[17:09] <xubuntugeek000> hello all
[17:09] <bubbasaures> torrente, #freenode maybe, see no relation to ubuntu in this.
[17:10] <xubuntugeek000> Likely this's been asked recently, though I can't find the answer on the web.  Is it something in my local config(s), or have there been no updates for 14.04 since the end of the year?
[17:11] <bubbasaures> none here
[17:11] <torrente> ok
[17:12] <bubbasaures> developers practice holiday celebrations to
[17:12] <cfhowlett> xubuntugeek000, current release is 14.04.1
[17:12] <xubuntugeek000> I'm sure they do..and they're more than entitled :)  just thought to ask, as it's unusual.
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> xubuntugeek000: .2 is slated for February 5
[17:13] <bubbasaures> xubuntugeek000, More than likely if there was an issue it would be all over the web.
[17:13] <xubuntugeek000> that makes good sense, SonikkuAmerica ... ty for the info.  and you as well, bubbasaures
[17:13] <xubuntugeek000> belated happy new year to all
[17:13] <daftykins> i'm beginning to think the Canonical devs need to release a "happy holidays" package to make everyone feel ok that it's still alive
[17:13] <bubbasaures> have a good new year
[17:13]  * SonikkuAmerica has fallen back to GNOME
[17:15] <BluesKaj> SonikkuAmerica, my condolences
[17:16] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj: Lol. KDE suits me, but GNOME is fitted for touch.
[17:16] <Giwrgaras> anyone with eclipse 4x version?
[17:16] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: what makes that a support question? :)
[17:16] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj: Oh wow, I realized I typed this in #u :P
[17:17] <Giwrgaras> nothing just asking
[17:17] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | SonikkuAmerica
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> SchrodingersScat: (Thank you. Lol.)
[17:17] <gsb>  /quit
[17:18] <BluesKaj> SchrodingersScat, was just waiting to invoke the bot ...must be along day for some :)
[17:18] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: might be more relevant to ask in a java dev channel or some such
[17:19] <moon__> What is the best way to see infected sectors on a hard drive from linux?
[17:20] <Knight80> Could anybody tell me please what "major break" means?
[17:20] <bubbasaures> moon__, infected secters?
[17:20] <bubbasaures> Knight80, Not a ubuntu issue, why ask here?
[17:20] <bubbasaures> so far anyway
[17:20] <moon__> Where can a virus hide if no hdds are installed after ram has been removed and reinserted?
[17:21] <daftykins> moon__: you mean bad sectors? "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[17:21] <bubbasaures> moon__, This is ubuntu?
[17:21] <daftykins> oh not that then.
[17:21] <moon__> Laptop*
[17:21] <daftykins> moon__: the BIOS - but the idea of 'virus' is more a 90s one.
[17:21] <daftykins> what makes you think there's a 'virus' ?
[17:22] <bubbasaures> moon__, virus issue would have to be a MS issue, granted any OS can be hacked.
[17:22] <pef> apologies if this isn't the most appropriate forum: if I bought a Macbook Pro tomorrow, would the latest Ubuntu support it? The 'Mactel Support Matrix' at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages doesn't mention any hardware from 2014 or 2015.
[17:22] <moon__> Isn't there a paticular place on a laptop that houses DMI?
[17:22] <bubbasaures> moon__, This is ubuntu support
[17:22] <moon__> Power configurations
[17:22] <daftykins> moon__: since there's no OS and no disk, ##hardware would be a better bet.
[17:23] <moon__> Yeah I was wondering if there was a space other than bios that holds hibernation features and allows reinfection
[17:24] <moon__> O.k maybe wording is off
[17:24] <pef> is there an IRC channel for ubuntu on macs?
[17:25] <bubbasaures> pef, We see a few apple users here on occasion, however in general that is a question that may not get a a quick answer, I would look on youtube....etc for someone running one with linux, the web may be faster us all.
[17:25] <bubbasaures> is*
[17:25] <moon__> Anyway to flash bios image from linux?
[17:25] <BigBawb> bleh internet problems are back >.>
[17:26] <daftykins> moon__: unlikely, now please take it to the channel directed.
[17:26] <pef> bubbasaures: I've been googling, but couldn't find anything more recent than 2013. I'll take a look at the forums. thanks for your advice.
[17:26] <moon__> channel directed?
[17:26] <daftykins> moon__: ##hardware, go
[17:26] <moon__> I am new to Chatx
[17:26] <moon__> xchat*
[17:26] <DJones> !mac | pef I don't have a mac,so can't help with specifici issues, but maybe the bots response has something useful,
[17:27] <daftykins> moon__: type "/join ##hardware" then
[17:27] <pef> DJones: yep, that's the wiki page that's out of date.
[17:27] <bubbasaures> pef, My guess is the only problem you would probably have would be in hardware and drivers, that is the general issue with new hardware setups...etc
[17:28] <daftykins> pef: ubuntu on macs is experimental at best, you should buy hardware that's meant to work with ubuntu - not hardware that *might*
[17:28] <daftykins> unless you enjoy a challenge
[17:28] <pef> daftykins: yes, you're right; I'm interested in this just working, not that keen on tinkering. I think I'll buy something else.
[17:29] <moon__> Any software out there that turns a physical machine into a thin or fat client?
[17:29] <moon__> Noone in there lol
[17:29] <bubbasaures> I have been running multi installs for years, I would not touch an apple computer to do it with though, however I would own one and use apple.
[17:29] <daftykins> pef: a dell XPS 13 might be more advisable :> if you're after a 13" laptop or so, they even sell ones with ubuntu
[17:30] <bubbasaures> system76 cough
[17:30] <daftykins> depends where you are in the world :)
[17:31] <moon__> Is this the CIA channel?
[17:32] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[17:32] <moon__> lol
[17:32] <daftykins> moon__: please take your antics elsewhere
[17:33] <moon__> Sure need a ticket though
[17:33] <mucus> whenever i put a window to fullscreen, the top of it goes behind my top panel
[17:34] <mucus> at the same time my desktop icons also align in a way they sit under the top panel
[17:34] <mucus> and i have auto-hide turned off.
[17:34] <mucus> how can i prevent windows/icons from going too far up?
[17:35] <llll1> clear
[17:39] <anonymous_> hi
[17:40] <the8thbit|work> How do I fix this: http://pastebin.com/3ucyUzLS
[17:42] <bubbasaures> the8thbit|work, When you run a update/upgrade do you have held packages?
[17:42] <bubbasaures> or broken
[17:42] <the8thbit|work> I think so, let me run update and check
[17:42] <moon__> How do detect hacking with wireshark?
[17:43] <nickander> are you on 12.04 the8thbit|work
[17:43] <bubbasaures> the8thbit|work, You fix that first before anything else happens.
[17:43] <moon__> So much going on in the window packets
[17:43] <the8thbit|work> Actually, I get no error when I update
[17:43] <teward> moon__: you don't - if you have a border firewall managing access to the network it shouldn't show at the endpoint clients in the network
[17:43] <the8thbit|work> Im on 12.04 yes
[17:44] <teward> moon__: there's a lot more to 'detecting hacking' than looking at just the packets
[17:45]  * bubbasaures looks for the Ronco script kiddie kit link
[17:45] <moon__> Well I got alot of connections on private ports 49152 and above http and https system if I block out going on these ports I get no connection
[17:46] <moon__> Currports shows unknown process mimicing browser connections
[17:48] <the8thbit|work> actually
[17:48] <the8thbit|work> bubbasaures: When I run upgrade I get: E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[17:48] <the8thbit|work> but I get no error on update
[17:49] <snyp> Does Ubuntu _require_ apparmor?
[17:49] <snyp> like some application that comes with ubuntu...
[17:49] <bubbasaures> the8thbit|work, pastebin that whole upgrade run
[17:49] <the8thbit|work> ok
[17:50] <mutual> im still not entirely sure whether my home is on its own partition, but if it isnt then how to i move it safely?
[17:50] <bubbasaures> the8thbit|work, To be more clear pastebin the suo apt-get upgrade
[17:50] <bubbasaures> sudo*
[17:50] <r_a_x> I experience frequent freeze with ubuntu, What to do??
[17:50] <the8thbit|work> bubbasaures: http://pastebin.com/bCAEccAy
[17:51] <mutual> and does it matter that it's encrypted?
[17:51] <moon__> I always get browser freezes saying a java script has stopped running
[17:51] <bubbasaures> the8thbit|work, I would need all the info from the command to the end.
[17:51] <the8thbit|work> bubbasaures: thats it
[17:51] <the8thbit|work> the command was suod apt-get upgrade
[17:52] <the8thbit|work> thats everything after the command was issued
[17:53] <bubbasaures> the8thbit|work, Right, I was thinking the update and upgrade, you mentioned the update looked okay, I'm not sure as I don't recognize the packages with issues as part of any packages I use is all.
[17:53] <Mandeep_Singh> hello everyone.
[17:53] <the8thbit|work> I see. Well, thanks for your help bubbasaures
[17:54] <bubbasaures> the8thbit|work, No problem, does not look bad, not a wall of broken packages is a good thing. ;)
[17:55] <the8thbit|work> bubbasaures: Do you have any idea as to what my next course of action would be, or should I just take the question to #linux? :)
[17:55] <bubbasaures> the8thbit|work, You are fine here I assume this is a canonical ubuntu.
[17:55] <the8thbit|work> bubbasaures: indeed
[17:56] <moon__> Is is there a windows help channel on here?
[17:57] <Mandeep_Singh> I just want to ask about hard disk suspend option (stand by option in disk). How Ubuntu continue to work when we standby the hard disk?
[17:57] <Pici> moon__: ##windows
[17:57] <cpt_othello> moon__, maybe try #windows
[17:57] <moon__> thanks
[17:58] <chrz> Hi, I am trying to install mysqld on 14.04 server. It refuses to set a password. And to start. Where shall I look for the fail reason message?
[18:04] <chrz> Hi folks, somebody out there with an idea to drill down the reason for failure of installation of a package?
[18:04] <trism> chrz: pastebin the output when you try to: sudo apt-get install packagename;
[18:05] <chrz> trism: the only error is it refuses to set a password. And then it refuses to start. Errrormessage is what I am looking for. mysqld on 14.04
[18:06] <daftykins> dpkg-reconfigure package ?
[18:06] <egregius> hi
[18:06] <egregius> i need help to use the linux mint
[18:06] <daftykins> !mint
[18:06] <daftykins> not in here i'm afraid
[18:06] <egregius> ohh im sorry you guys are really serious about that ive seen
[18:07] <egregius> that makes you hardkore elite
[18:07] <egregius> like zerocool
[18:07] <daftykins> no, Mint has its' own problems is all.
[18:07] <daftykins> so they support it.
[18:07] <egregius> how i use linux to see the scat pictures
[18:07] <chrz> http://pastebin.com/mw0a2rY1
[18:08] <egregius> cus my mom she check the search history and see i look at the scat pics
[18:08] <egregius> and now i cant  cus she put the aol block on the computer
[18:09] <egregius> and i really need the scat to get off
[18:09] <bubbasaures> egregius, Than talk to your mother,.
[18:09] <egregius> she makes me do stuff sometimes
[18:09] <h00k> egregius: 1) go to the Mint channel for Mint support 2) Check browser documentation if you're having troubles using whatever browser you're using 3) Please keep it family friendly in here, if you have Ubuntu related support questions.
[18:10] <egregius> dress up like a girl and sit on my uncle's lap
[18:10] <egregius> and play ride the horsey
[18:10] <bubbasaures> lol morons
[18:20] <thorie> hi, how do i select multiple items one at a time in a select box? i don't know the keyboard or mouse shortcut to do it, for example in this web form: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_select_multiplehttp://www.w3schools.com/tags/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_select_multiple
[18:22] <theadmin> thorie: Hold Shift and click them.
[18:22] <theadmin> thorie: Or, rather, hold Ctrl and click them.
[18:22] <theadmin> Shift to select a range.
[18:22] <thorie> theadmin: Ctrl is acting like shift, and it selects a range
[18:22] <thorie> theadmin: is it because i am using a Mac keyboard?
[18:23] <theadmin> thorie: Ah yes. Then use Cmd.
[18:23] <theadmin> I think.
[18:23] <thorie> Cmd isn't working either, it just acts like Shift as well
[18:23] <theadmin> Bah. The weird butterfly then?
[18:23] <thorie> Is there a way to do it without a mouse at all? Purely keyboard?
[18:23] <daftykins> depends on DE, i've noticed xfce and unity work very weirdly with mac keyboards
[18:24] <daftykins> glad i don't use an OS on a mac that's for sure :>
[18:24] <thorie> I'm using IceWM
[18:24] <theadmin> thorie: It should be Cmd+Click according to numerous Apple sites
[18:25] <thorie> theadmin: yeah that is not working at all... what do people do if they don't have a mouse? what's the keyboard shortcut to multiple select?
[18:25] <theadmin> thorie: According to the page you linked as well -- but I can't be sure how it's done on Ubuntu...
[18:26] <theadmin> thorie: I have no idea how to do it without a mouse.
[18:26] <daftykins> thorie: they don't browse the internet, i would think
[18:27] <thorie> for 99% of forms, i can just tab or hit space to select something, never having to need a mouse - i can hit tab to go to the links i want... the web works fine without a mouse or at least it's supposed to
[18:27] <daftykins> that's debatable
[18:28] <thorie> but i'm totally stuck on this multiple select, even WITH a mouse... the only workaround i can think of is to open the developer toolbar and manually edit the HTML to be "selected=true" on each item that i want and then submit the form???
[18:28] <thorie> it's pretty much unusable
[18:29] <daftykins> working ok here, by holding control then cursoring up and down. i get the outline dotted line to show my position, then space to select
[18:29] <thorie> daftykins: when i do that, IceWM switches me to different workspaces
[18:30] <daftykins> there you go then, it's a WM issue
[18:30] <daftykins> confirm with another session type?
[18:30] <thorie> hmm ok let me dig around the WM documentation
[18:30] <thorie> thanks
[18:31] <Chaser> x
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[18:44] <unopaste> Jarvis you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:45] <Jarvis> AR-CH-LI-NUX!
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[18:46] <unopaste> Jarvis you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:50] <timvisher> is it possible to make a rectangular selection in xfce4-terminal?
[19:00] <nginx77> Can someone explain why conf.d isn't used going from Ubuntu 10 to 14? Trying to find any documentation as to why this was changed. :/
[19:02] <ararob> is there  3.18 kernel and Mesa 10.5 ubuntu packages one can test_
[19:02] <ararob> ?
[19:03] <daftykins> !mainline
[19:04] <desti_T2> hi, which version of the tg3 kernel driver (broadcom network) does ubuntu 14 LTS has?
[19:08] <dannymichel> i can't get grub menu to unhide no matter what i do in /etc/default/grub then do update-grub. i tried setting timeout to 10 and nothing works. can anyone help?
[19:09] <Peace-> dannymichel: try to reinstall grub then
[19:10] <EriC^^> comment out hidden_timeout
[19:10] <EriC^^> grub_hidden_timeout
[19:11] <jcl> hey all, i'm having a network interface bonding issue -- one of the slaves stopped sending and receiving packets over the holidays. i've tried ifdown and ifup on eth2 (eth0 still works) but that didn't work. then i tried "ifenslave -d bond0 eth2" and "ifenslave bond0 eth2" but it says enslave failed.
[19:11] <jcl> syslog says "bnx2x_nic_load: function start failed"
[19:11] <jcl> any ideas?
[19:12] <dannymichel> i did that EriC^^
[19:13] <kirk-ubuntu> Hi all, what are the release hosts used for chx/wax?
[19:14] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur/ZXTNCXy.png EriC^^
[19:14] <Pinkamena_D> Just resumed from suspend and launcher and top menu bar are not responding to clicks. They are not frozen because the graphics are still updateing
[19:14] <Pinkamena_D> any way to restart this or fix without rebooting?
[19:15] <EriC^^> dannymichel: dead link
[19:15] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur.com/ZXTNCXy.png EriC^^
[19:16] <jcl> I'm trying to reattach a slave interface to a bond after it had some trouble, may still have an issue, but when I do "ifenslave bond0 eth2" it says bond failed and syslog says "function load failed"
[19:16] <jcl> any way to fix this without rebooting or bringing down the bonded interface?
[19:16] <EriC^^> dannymichel: set hidden_timeout_quiet to true
[19:17] <dannymichel> any suggestions if that doesn't work EriC^^?
[19:17] <moon__> Anyone know how I can elevate intranet all together?
[19:18] <willwh> moon__: what?
[19:18] <willwh> that question makes my brain hurt
[19:18] <dannymichel> should i try this eric? http://askubuntu.com/questions/268744/grub-hidden-menu-not-working i would if i underrstood what he meant. does he mean comment line 33 and also comment line 67?
[19:18] <dannymichel> cause when i do that, i get a syntax error EriC^^
[19:19] <moon__> Where can I keep my connection from being locked into my intranet and get acces to the www
[19:21] <EriC^^> dannymichel: yeah he means to comment the if [ ] ... and fi;
[19:21] <petepiano1960> BigBawb: what does 'lsmod | grep 8192' give you ?
[19:22] <daftykins> moon__: in the workplace? talk to your IT department
[19:22] <moon__> This is a home pc
[19:22] <daftykins> moon__: then what intranet? :P
[19:23] <moon__> Good question
[19:23] <moon__> How do I access the settings?
[19:23] <moon__> other than internet options
[19:23] <daftykins> "the settings" ? i'm gonna need a lot more than that to go on
[19:24] <daftykins> what makes you think you're looking at an intranet?
[19:24] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur.com/uyZfWXI.png http://i.imgur.com/HZirBub.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2rqOgN3.jpg EriC^^ sytax error
[19:25] <moon__> well it would explain the web pages with no http or https in front of the address
[19:25] <M|zTiKoO> o0
[19:25] <daftykins> what web pages?
[19:25] <EriC^^> dannymichel: did you try after commenting out grub_hidden_timeout?
[19:25] <daftykins> moon__: sorry but this really isn't making any sense without context
[19:25] <dannymichel> ill try now
[19:25] <dannymichel> brb
[19:25] <moon__> My ebay has it
[19:25] <M|zTiKoO> chingen asu madre todos
[19:25] <DJones> moon__: If its a home connection, who set up the restrictions?
[19:25] <bubbasaures> M|zTiKoO, English?
[19:26] <Pici> moon__: The people in this channel aren't psychic, so if you're asking a question where context would be helpful, please provide it.
[19:26] <moon__> Again good question
[19:26] <M|zTiKoO> «•» [[bubbasaures]] «•» chinga tu puta madre tu pinche metiche:.+‡ 
[19:26] <moon__> Well i'm just asking is there a way to turn it off?
[19:26] <EriC^^> ^^^ that cant be good
[19:26] <daftykins> moon__: so you go to http://www.ebay.co.uk and you're seeing some other kind of address? come on help us out here!
[19:26] <daftykins> i spent the channel's entire volunteer budget on christmas food
[19:26] <DJones> M|zTiKoO: Are you a bot?
[19:27] <daftykins> moon__: no you're not making any sense.
[19:27] <daftykins> upload a screenshot or something
[19:27] <bubbasaures> !ops | M|zTiKoO swearing in spanish
[19:27] <moon__> There is no indication of protocal on my ebay site address
[19:27] <bubbasaures> ah gone what a moron
[19:27] <moon__> just a planet
[19:28] <dannymichel> still hidden EriC^^
[19:28] <moon__> No encryption
[19:28] <daftykins> moon__: that means it's likely not https, try the login page. that's normal.
[19:28] <Zelta> .voc ubottu:.+‡ 
[19:28] <Zelta>  ubottu Modera Tu Vocabulario O Seras Sancionado, Gracias:.+‡ 
[19:28] <EriC^^> dannymichel: ok, you did update-grub successfully after commenting it out, right?
[19:28] <Zelta> Bienvenidos a #ubuntu , Queda totalmente Prohibido hacer Spam [salas,emails,webs], Flood [repetir], Faltar el respeto, escribir en Mayúsculas, usar Colores fuertes de texto [dibujos, adornos], pedir Cam en la sala y Prohibido las temáticas de Sexo y Drogas. Deseamos que te diviertas.:.+‡ 
[19:28] <dannymichel> you have to admit those comment instructions are weird. i get that syntax error because the instructions didn't make sense
[19:28] <moon__> just my.ebay etc.
[19:28] <daftykins> moon__: e.g. ebay, click sign in -> address changes to https://
[19:29] <dannymichel> i did the grub update yes EriC^^
[19:29] <daftykins> so you're already logged in perhaps.
[19:29] <daftykins> moon__: is this firefox?
[19:29] <moon__> yeah
[19:29] <dannymichel> yes, it was successful, but thats not with the instructions that guy gave about 67 and 33
[19:29] <dannymichel> just with your instructions EriC^^
[19:29] <daftykins> ok well you're already logged in so my example won't work
[19:30] <daftykins> moon__: what does www.google.com give you ?
[19:30] <daftykins> (https here)
[19:30] <dannymichel> i think the key is understanding that guys weird instructions. should i try booting even with the syntax error EriC^^?
[19:30] <EriC^^> dannymichel: no
[19:30] <dannymichel> ok
[19:31] <EriC^^> dannymichel: you're commenting out irrelevant stuff
[19:31] <dannymichel> i see. so since the other stuff doesn't work, what can i try next EriC^^
[19:31] <EriC^^> dannymichel: please upload your file to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:31] <moon__> I think I may be on a apache2 server
[19:31] <dannymichel> ok
[19:32] <daftykins> moon__: what? it kinda sounds like you're making this stuff up :(
[19:32] <EriC^^> both /etc/default/grub and 30_os-prober , to separate pages
[19:32] <moon__> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl
[19:32] <EriC^^> dannymichel: ^
[19:32] <daftykins> moon__: yeah, so nothing wrong then.
[19:32] <moon__> Doesn't that address disable ssl
[19:32] <daftykins> moon__: no
[19:33] <moon__> ?gws_rd=ssl
[19:33] <daftykins> it's saying 'redirect search results with ssl'
[19:33] <moon__> oh
[19:35] <dannymichel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9678319/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/9678328
[19:35] <dannymichel> EriC^^
[19:36] <iWeed> hello
[19:36] <iWeed> ubuntu 12.04.5 not booting from usb? any help
[19:36] <iWeed> ?
[19:36] <daftykins> how did you make the drive?
[19:36] <iWeed> simple
[19:37] <daftykins> using what... on what OS...
[19:37] <daftykins> did you hash the downloaded ISO to be sure it's not corrupt?
[19:37] <iWeed> using universal usb installer
[19:37] <daftykins> ok so from Windows
[19:37] <daftykins> !md5
[19:37] <iWeed> on windows 7
[19:37] <iWeed> 64 bt
[19:39] <bubbasaures> iWeed, A lot of usb loaders check the sum and see which works for you. If this is a UEFI computer tell us.
[19:39] <EriC^^> dannymichel: if you want to try what they are suggesting comment out line 33 and 40
[19:39] <dannymichel> ok EriC^^
[19:39] <iWeed> kali ,mint r working perfectly
[19:40] <daftykins> iWeed: yeah so hash the download, maybe it was bad
[19:40] <iWeed> when i boot it shows a blank screen with cursor
[19:40] <iWeed> yeah! thanx @daftykins. checking
[19:41] <bubbasaures> two linux installed and using windows...hmm
[19:41] <dannymichel> wow, i made those comments, updated grub successfully, and its still hidden EriC^^
[19:42] <daftykins> i think that meant distros tried on the flash drive :)
[19:42] <bubbasaures> daftykins, Heh, no matter here kali alone gets a free ignore here. ;)
[19:42] <EriC^^> dannymichel: which ubuntu is this? ate you dual booting with other os? why are you using nomodeset in the cmdline btw?
[19:42] <EriC^^> *are
[19:42] <bubbasaures> script kiddie plugin yah know
[19:43] <daftykins> bubbasaures: too true
[19:43] <dannymichel> i have a black screen EriC^^. this is the latest version of ubuntu
[19:43] <dannymichel> i can boot sith super grub boot disk EriC^^
[19:44] <dannymichel> ubuntu is my only OS installed EriC^^
[19:44] <martythemcflyguy> I am having some problems with syndaemon / synclient, cant get disable touchpad while typing to work. I've been messing with it and at one point I got the touchpad to be disabled for 4 seconds after typing but I cant recreate that anymore. Any clues?
[19:44] <EriC^^> dannymichel: ok
[19:45] <EriC^^> dannymichel: revert the os_prober comments
[19:45] <dannymichel> ok
[19:45] <EriC^^> ( those are in case you have other os's btw )
[19:45] <EriC^^> dannymichel: if you press shift you don't get grub?
[19:46] <dannymichel> no, i don't EriC^^
[19:46] <dannymichel> thats the problem
[19:46] <EriC^^> dannymichel: is this in a vm?
[19:46] <dannymichel> i tried holding it and repeatedly tapping it EriC^^
[19:46] <dannymichel> not a vm
[19:46] <EriC^^> ok
[19:46] <dannymichel> I'm talking to you on a mac laptop now
[19:47] <dannymichel> and on the pc next to me
[19:47] <EriC^^> ok
[19:47] <daftykins> USB keyboard trickery?
[19:47] <bprompt> martythemcflyguy:    not sure if it's a solution, but I do not use syndaemon... but I use anoher app, touchpad-indicator, it automally disables the touchpad if it finds a mouse, and leaves it enabled if no mouse found
[19:48] <EriC^^> dannymichel: are you using a usb keyboard?
[19:48] <dannymichel> yes i am EriC^^
[19:48] <EriC^^> can you try a different port?
[19:49] <dannymichel> yes one sec
[19:49] <EriC^^> daftykins: any other suggestions?
[19:49] <AkivaAvraham> what ubuntu phones have been confirmed by meizu and bq?
[19:49] <daftykins> mmm, right shift as well as left - USB legacy options in the BIOS if present
[19:49] <daftykins> !touch | AkivaAvraham
[19:49] <EriC^^> dannymichel: ^^
[19:49] <binayak>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER binayak kcseutmgzxns
[19:50] <xangua> binayak: nice password
[19:50] <daftykins> binayak: best to run such commands in the status window.
[19:50] <AkivaAvraham> daftykins, no answer there.
[19:50] <daftykins> AkivaAvraham: doesn't make it appropriate here :)
[19:50] <binayak> sorry for that :P
[19:50] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: Guaranteed way to get the grub menu to show, bypassing the Ubuntu specific hidden menu stuff, is to add "timeout=10" to /boot/grub/custom.cfg, creating that file if it doesn't already exist. But before doing that, dannymichel should make sure that any changes to /etc/grub.d/ are completely reverted, possibly by just purging grub-common. Also before changing /boot/grub/custom.cfg you should have them add a comment to /e
[19:51] <AkivaAvraham> daftykins, how is asking what phones were released by Meizu and Bq which will have ubuntu, not appropriate here in #ubuntu?
[19:51] <daftykins> *sigh*
[19:52] <AkivaAvraham> daftykins, sorry
[19:52] <dannymichel> I'm going to put what you said in a note Jordan_U
[19:52] <martythemcflyguy> brompt: i tried it, enabled disable touchpad while typing but it doesnt change anything
[19:52] <mucus> is ubuntu touch (the phone os from what i recall) the same as ubuntu?
[19:52] <dannymichel> one sec
[19:52] <AkivaAvraham> mucus, yes and no.
[19:52] <bubbasaures> !touch
[19:52] <martythemcflyguy> bprompt: i tried it, enabled disable touchpad while typing but it doesnt change anything
[19:52] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: ok, what do you mean by add a comment to / ?
[19:52] <dannymichel> brb EriC^^ Jordan_U
[19:52] <AkivaAvraham> mucus, Yes, in that eventually the same os that you run on your phone will run your desktop, as your phone os will scale up to become a desktop or tv
[19:53] <mucus> i am looking forward to this
[19:53] <bubbasaures> AkivaAvraham, Note the touch link, this channel has nothing to do with it.
[19:53] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: I mean that I really need to re-add splitlong.pl to my irssi autostart :)
[19:53] <AkivaAvraham> bubbasaures, alright alright
[19:53] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: hehe i thought there was more to come :)
[19:53] <bubbasaures> excellent, excellent
[19:53] <bprompt> AkivaAvraham:    not acquainted myself with either.... in short, the channel is meant for OS distribution support only, though I do see your question a bit relevant or related...  however some folks here take a bit of a dogmatic stand on that view, thus
[19:54] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: ... comment to /etc/default/grub explaining that GRUB_TIMTOUT is being overridden by /boot/grub/custom.cfg, and any changes to it made in /etc/default/grub will have no effect.
[19:54] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: ok
[19:54] <AkivaAvraham> bprompt, thanks; I like your explanation.
[19:55] <bubbasaures> bprompt, That is is not a dogmatic response, that question is not even answerable really, there have been no official partnerships released.
[19:56] <moon__> Anyone get those small mb allocated spaces infront and behind their partitions?
[19:56] <bprompt> bubbasaures:     well... in this specific, in your case, it may not apply, I care to differ on dogmatic stands on some though..... so the answer is simply, we dunno or there isn't enough available info yet, thus why I said I'm acquainted with either, though I could do some seaching
[19:57] <Z3>  Hi, I read first ubuntu phone from BQ appears next month. I would like to know if it will support "docking mode" (plugin to a tv, keyboard and mouse to have a regular pc)
[19:57] <moon__> I was thinking a tdss file system or encrypted
[19:57] <Pici> 70
[19:58] <daftykins> moon__: pretty common. nothing to be worried about
[19:58] <daftykins> Z3: #ubuntu-touch for that topic.
[19:58] <dannymichel> Jordan_U add a comment to /e?
[19:58] <dannymichel> whats that
[19:58] <Z3> daftykins ok, thank you
[19:58] <moon__> Why linux doesn't use partitioning like mac?
[19:59] <daftykins> because unix != linux
[19:59] <moon__> I thought they were basically the same?
[20:00] <daftykins> nope
[20:00] <theadmin> Macs are completely different from Linux. Sure, there are some tools that work in similar (not the same) ways.
[20:00] <dannymichel> ok, grub still isn't showing after I've created that file and updated grub Jordan_U EriC^^
[20:00] <theadmin> Command-line ones, that is
[20:00] <theadmin> But other than that, nah.
[20:02] <moon__> BSD unix?
[20:02] <dannymichel> ill just install windows and try to use their boot menu if they have one along side linux EriC^^ Jordan_U. i don't think anything is going to work
[20:02] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/custom.cfg .
[20:03] <dannymichel> all it says is timeout=10. there is nothing else in that file Jordan_U
[20:03] <dannymichel> i had to create it
[20:03] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Does your monitor give a warning about signal being out of range during boot?
[20:03] <dannymichel> no Jordan_U
[20:05] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based machine?
[20:05] <dannymichel> how do i do that purge grub common then add that timeout=10 file Jordan_U
[20:05] <dannymichel> yes UEFI
[20:05] <dannymichel> googled the purge thing
[20:05] <dannymichel> doing it now
[20:09] <dannymichel> ok did the purge now adding that file then doing update grub Jordan_U
[20:09] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: As a test, to see if grub is trying to display the menu for 10 seconds and just failing to display, try changing "timeout=10" to "timeout=60". You will hopefully notice 60 seconds of added boot time, possibly with a black screen or possibly something else. Please pay attention to what the screen looks like during this 60 second pause, if it does in fact happen.
[20:10] <dannymichel> ok Jordan_U
[20:11] <dannymichel> worked Jordan_U!
[20:12] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: You see and can interact with the grub menu now?
[20:13] <dannymichel> ok so i only have to do nomodeset one time now and I'm good Jordan_U? yes, i see the grub menu
[20:13] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Great :)
[20:13] <dannymichel> i already installed the nvidia drivers
[20:14] <dannymichel> so now that i was able to boot with nomodeset, put the timeout to 10 again and update grub then reboot?
[20:14] <dannymichel> or is there anything else i should do
[20:15] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: How did you install the nvidea drivers? nomodeset should generally be added automatically when installing proprietary graphics drivers.
[20:15] <dannymichel> through the extra drivers thing
[20:18] <yarekt> Hey guys. Could you help me with something please? I've got a new 4TB drive and it looks like it could be DOA
[20:18] <yarekt> Are there any good ways of testing/proving that its dead?
[20:18] <EriC^^> poke it with a stick
[20:18] <daftykins> yes
[20:18] <daftykins> does the kernel see it during boot up?
[20:18] <daftykins> does "sudo parted -l" ?
[20:18] <daftykins> what's the SMART status? :)
[20:19] <dannymichel> great. everything is working great now. i have one more issue, Jordan_U. so basically, i can remove the timeout=10 thing now since I'm booting fine? next thing is, i want to nvc locally to the ubuntu install. i installed vmc server and am running vmc server and when i netstat, i see it running on *6001 and 5901
[20:19] <daftykins> yarekt: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit"
[20:19] <daftykins> yarekt: (once you identify which letter drive it is)
[20:19] <yarekt> Lots of these: http://pastie.org/pastes/9814885/text?key=mw15nbucmv3omuwgfqywug
[20:19] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: That should have added nomodeset as a kernel parameter, or done something equivalent, but if it didn't then you can add nomodeset to the list of kernel parameters in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub.
[20:19] <dannymichel> but when i try to connect from my mac, it just hangs on localip:6001 and just refuses to connect on local:5901 Jordan_U
[20:20] <daftykins> yarekt: is it directly motherboard attached via SATA?
[20:20] <yarekt> No, its plugged into a SATA3 PCIE card
[20:20] <dannymichel> so basically, i can remove the timeout=10 and just have nomodeset in there Jordan_U?
[20:20] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: If you don't need to see the grub menu at boot any more, then yes you can just delete /boot/grub/custom.cfg.
[20:20] <daftykins> yarekt: bad SATA cable?
[20:20] <yarekt> http://pastie.org/private/2mzwuqpxefjlib5tasmiew
[20:21] <daftykins> yarekt: that's a 137GB disk
[20:21] <daftykins> ah no it's just reading it badly, double check on the motherboard
[20:22] <daftykins> it thinks it's 512 bytes logical and physical, that's majorly wrong :)
[20:22] <yarekt> Hmm, so it doesn't identify correctly, it might not be a dead disk then?
[20:22] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: What VNC server are you using in Ubuntu? What VNC client on the mac?
[20:23] <daftykins> yarekt: i would guess your controller card can't handle it, what kind is it? firmware updateable?
[20:23] <daftykins> yarekt: what does "sudo parted -l" see it as?
[20:23] <yarekt> Erm, startech something or other, looked pretty new when I bought it
[20:23] <dannymichel> the default built in vmc viewer on mac Jordan_U. one sec. i have to see what kind of vmc server I'm running on ubuntu
[20:23] <yarekt> is that similar to fdisk -l?
[20:23] <daftykins> oh one of those cheap ass...
[20:24] <dannymichel> tightvnc Jordan_U
[20:24] <daftykins> yarekt: yep, both would be great if you could. parted handles GPT is all
[20:24] <dannymichel> i did this Jordan_Uhttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-14-04
[20:24] <yarekt> daftykins: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005B0A6ZS
[20:25] <yarekt> well, when i do fdisk -l on it, it throws lots of those kernel ATA messages
[20:25] <daftykins> yarekt: definitely power off, plug it into the motherboard ports if possible and come back and re-run the above commands to confirm, i reckon that cheap toy is the culprit
[20:26] <daftykins> (or the SATA cable)
[20:26] <dannymichel> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-14-04 Jordan_U
[20:26] <dannymichel> link was mest up
[20:26] <yarekt> daftykins: Thanks, i'll have a try. The card *did* work before, not sure if with this large capacity though
[20:27] <yarekt> Playing about with it is a bit tough, as all other ports are taken up by other disks in raid, not sure if I want to unplug them
[20:27] <daftykins> yeah, detecting it as 512byte instead of 4K "advanced format" suggests it's a mickey mouse product :)
[20:27] <daftykins> no other system?
[20:28] <yarekt> Erm, just a windows box, I guess that might do as well...
[20:28] <yarekt> I'll have a go, thanks for advice daftykins. I'll be back after I tried a few things. Can't do anything now, the system is in use
[20:28] <zabetton74> buona sera a tutti !
[20:29] <daftykins> yarekt: no problemo, good luck :)
[20:29] <yarekt> Thanks
[20:29] <daftykins> yarekt: crystaldiskinfo is great on Windows for SMART info - (from sourceforge japan)
[20:29] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Was there any output when you ran "ssh -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901 -N -f -l user server_ip_address" on the OSX machine?
[20:30] <yarekt> Thanks, i'll have a try
[20:30] <dannymichel> I'm going to try that now Jordan_U
[20:31] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: That was part of the instructions.
[20:31] <dannymichel> do you mean user@server_ip_address instead of user server_ip_address Jordan_U
[20:31] <iWeed> got a problem in http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows " , the second command is not working
[20:32] <dannymichel> right now its just hanging on the mac when ido that Jordan_U
[20:33] <iWeed> it says cd \path\to\cddir  whats that?
[20:33] <daftykins> iWeed: where did you download to? for 7 it should be "cd C:\User\<username>\Downloads\"
[20:33] <iWeed> i cut the file to system32
[20:34] <dannymichel> ssh -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901 -N -f -l danny 10.0.1.9 ssh: connect to host 10.0.1.9 port 22: Operation timed out Jordan_U
[20:34] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Do you have openssh-server installed on your Ubuntu machine?
[20:34] <dannymichel> no
[20:34] <dannymichel> will do now
[20:34] <daftykins> iWeed: yeah but you need to change into the folder of the downloaded ISO
[20:35] <daftykins> iWeed: you can also browse to where your ISO is, hold down left shift then right click in the white space behind files and select "open command window here"
[20:35] <iWeed> daftykins: ok
[20:35] <BlueProtoman> Help!  My hard drive is failing, so I can't boot into Ubuntu and recover my home partition.  Right now I'm on a Live USB installation.  However, my home partition is encrypted with ecrypt.  How can I decrypt it from my USB installation?
[20:36] <daftykins> !ecrypt
[20:36] <daftykins> damn.
[20:36] <Jordan_U> BlueProtoman: I assume you mean ecryptfs, correct?
[20:36] <BlueProtoman> Jordan_U: Yes
[20:36] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[20:37] <daftykins> might be useful, dunno - Jordan_U will know otherwise ;)
[20:37] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Will look, thanks!
[20:37] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: you have any luck at Best Buy? :>
[20:37] <jelangkung> hi, why dns can´t resolve hostnames when using android usb tethered connection but i can connect using tor browser? could it be operator´s problem? cause if i use another sim card, it works just fine
[20:37] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Yeah, found a SSHD for about $110 bucks.  Faster and larger than my current HDD.  Turns out I had a flash drive lying around somewhere, but it's not big enough to install Windows (I know that I need to do that before I install Linux if I want both).
[20:38] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: So my first priority is recovering the contents of /home
[20:38] <iWeed> daktykins: yeah! now should i follow the third command?  md5sum -c filename.md5
[20:38] <bubbasaures> BlueProtoman, You can install windows anytime, the key is having it first on the HD, so you could stick a ntfs on and install ubuntu after, just info.
[20:39] <daftykins> iWeed: yep, though you probably don't have a .md5 file beside the ISO, so you might need to grab it first
[20:39] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: cool, did you get something to be able to plug both drives in at once too?
[20:39] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Yeah, got a USB-SATA adapter, though it was pricier than I expected
[20:40] <BlueProtoman> bubbasaures: Oh, so I can just split the hard drive 50/50, install Ubuntu on the second half and Windows on the first later?
[20:40] <bubbasaures> BlueProtoman, you got it. ;)
[20:40] <iWeed> daftykins: but there is a file name md5sum in my pendrive ( the bottable one)
[20:40] <BlueProtoman> bubbasaures: Sweet.
[20:40] <Jordan_U> BlueProtoman: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html , *but* for a failing drive you might want to use GNU ddrescue to create an image of your drive, then recover files from that image.
[20:40] <bubbasaures> BlueProtoman, You just have to reload grub than no biggie.
[20:41] <daftykins> iWeed: mmm, you're hashing the download though, not the flash drive
[20:41] <daftykins> Jordan_U: nah it was just bad sectors in the boot area so far, /home should be fine for BlueProtoman
[20:41] <iWeed> daktykins: ok
[20:42] <dannymiche> ok installed and ran open ssh and the vmc server and ran that command you showed me and its just hanging then times out Jordan_U
[20:42] <daftykins> *VNC
[20:43] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: Ok. From your OSX machine as a test try simply "ssh username@ip-address-of-ubuntu-machine".
[20:44] <dannymiche> ok one sec
[20:44] <dannymiche> same thing looks like Jordan_U. just hanging. i did all the port forwarding
[20:45] <dannymiche> and ufw stuff
[20:45] <amn3zia> hii
[20:45] <dannymiche> still hanging. didn't timeout yet
[20:45] <dannymiche> ok timed out
[20:45] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: You shouldn't have needed to do anything with port forwarding and UFW to get openssh-server to work on your local network, just installing the package "openssh-server" should have done it.
[20:46] <BlueProtoman> bubbasaures: And how would I do that, in a nutshell?
[20:46] <timvisher> dannymiche: you might want to pastebin ssh -vvv
[20:46] <dannymiche> yeah not working
[20:46] <dannymiche> ok, but am i really sshing? I'm trying to vnc into the linux box
[20:47] <dannymiche> you mean run ssh -vvv in the terminal timvisher
[20:48] <timvisher> dannymiche: can you `ssh -vvv username@ip-address-of-ubuntu-machine | pbpcopy` on your os x machine and then paste to your favorite public pasteboard?
[20:48] <timvisher> dannymiche: yes
[20:48] <amn3zia> is this important to compile a sunOS root script with sunOS or ca i use a ubuntu macchine
[20:48] <amn3zia> ?
[20:48] <dannymiche> ok one sec
[20:48] <timvisher> dannymiche: that'll get you maximum debug output, which could shed some light
[20:48] <daftykins> amn3zia: Sun might be able to answer that
[20:48] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: Please pastebin the output of "sudo service ssh status".
[20:50] <dannymiche> ssh start/running, process 3618
[20:50] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: You are using ssh to secure the unencrypted VNC connection.
[20:51] <dannymiche> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9678667/ Jordan_U
[20:52] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: ping 10.0.1.9
[20:52] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: (From the OSX machine)
[20:52] <dannymiche> crap i just realized its 10.0.1.8 . gonna try everything you said with the 8
[20:52] <timvisher> dannymiche: that's pbcopy, not pb_p_copy
[20:52] <dannymiche> was 9 the other time i booted
[20:53] <timvisher> i just realized you're also going to need 2>&1 on the end of that ssh, `ssh -vvv u@ubuntu 2>&1 | pbcopy`
[20:53] <dannymiche> nope still timeout one sec
[20:54] <daftykins> nmap ^
[20:55] <dannymiche> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9678695/ Jordan_U
[20:56] <dannymiche> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9678701/ Jordan_U
[20:56] <amn3zia> ftp
[20:56] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: Please pastebin the output of "ifconfig" from your Ubuntu machine.
[20:56] <daftykins> dannymiche: 'pbcopy'
[20:57] <timvisher> dannymiche: no. pbcopy :)
[20:57] <timvisher> or if you prefer, just leave that part off and copy it in manually
[20:57] <timvisher> i'm trying to save you a step :)
[20:58] <dannymiche> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9678711/ Jordan_U
[20:59] <dannymiche> http://pastebin.com/PPA5DYdZ
[21:01] <iWeed> daftykins: i am following the steps given on http://www.etree.org/md5com.html .
[21:01] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: Try "ssh danny@localhost" from your Ubuntu machine as a test.
[21:01] <daftykins> iWeed: drag and drop - http://www.winmd5.com/
[21:02] <dannymiche> http://pastebin.com/FEMF2qPy ok ill try that
[21:02] <iWeed> daftykins: even i created a folder in c drive and placed the iso file but it says no such file.. y?
[21:02] <dannymiche> everything works Jordan_U success message
[21:03] <dannymiche> asked me to accept key
[21:03] <dannymiche> types yes
[21:03] <dannymiche> on the ubuntu machine
[21:03] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: What did you do with UFW and port forwarding?
[21:03] <dannymiche> one sec
[21:04] <dannymiche> sudo ufw allow 5901/tcp
[21:04] <dannymiche> sudo ufw allow 6001/tcp
[21:04] <dannymiche> sudo ufw allow 6000/tcp
[21:04] <dannymiche> sudo ufw allow 5900/tcp
[21:05] <dannymiche> and a sudo ufw enable or something similar
[21:06] <dannymiche> port forwarding i added those ports to my airport extreme configguration with 10.0.1.8
[21:06] <dannymiche> gonna double check to make sure
[21:07] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: You might not want to enable any port forwarding, it has serious security considerations which you should think through.
[21:08] <dannymichel> whoops, forgot id be disconnected, but yes, all is well with port forrding and ufw
[21:08] <dannymichel> the ssh -L command shouldn't end in danny@ipaddress? its danny paddles?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: And the only actual ufw rule you need is "sudo ufw enable 22/tcp", because all of the traffic over your LAN will be going through ssh, on port 22.
[21:09] <dannymichel> danny ipaddress*
[21:09] <Jordan_U> dannymiche: But you also didn't need to enable ufw in the fist place for this (though you may want it for other reasons).
[21:11] <squeegily_> Hey guys. What happened here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/gma500/+bug/718567
[21:11] <squeegily_> It looks like there was a patch submitted, but nothing's happened since 2011? What's going on
[21:12] <dust_y> hi, where should I get help to build a ubuntu mail server???
[21:12] <daftykins> squeegily_: like i said, nobody cares about poulsbo anymore ;x
[21:12] <dannymichel> Jordan_U . ok
[21:13] <guntbert> dust_y: #ubuntu-server is better suited
[21:13] <dust_y> ok thanks #guntbert
[21:13] <squeegily_> daftykins: So.. it's just a low-priority bug? And so it probably won't get fixed unless it's brought to the attention of some both skilled and influential coders?
[21:14] <squeegily_> I'm almost considering trying to figure out how to apply that patch myself
[21:14] <dannymichel> I'm trying vmc viewer now (the app) on my mac and this thing has been hanging for 10 minutes
[21:14] <daftykins> actually that bug is probably just on an outdated version
[21:14] <squeegily_> daftykins: It's still a valid bug though
[21:15] <squeegily_> But if the patch is for an old version it probably won't work now
[21:15] <squeegily_> Crud
[21:15] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: You won't be able to do anything with VNC until you get the ssh tunnel working.
[21:15] <dannymichel> ok
[21:15] <iWeed> daftykins: ah! checksum is ok
[21:15] <dannymichel> still just timing out
[21:16] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur.com/4nTK2gK.png Jordan_U
[21:17] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Please pastebin the output of "sudo ufw status" from the Ubuntu machine.
[21:17] <dannymichel> ok
[21:18] <dannymichel> http://pastebin.com/wdx0fNJJ
[21:18] <dannymichel> weird i don't see 22
[21:18] <dannymichel> but i just added 22 a second ago
[21:19] <iWeed> daftykins: anyother solution for that?
[21:20] <dannymichel> added 22 and all is working
[21:20] <dannymichel> gonna try VNC now
[21:20] <daftykins> iWeed: re-make your drive after a full format maybe
[21:20] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Do *not* enable port forwarding for port 22! That has serious security implications, the moment you enable it bots *will* start hammering your machine with login attempts.
[21:20] <dannymichel> ok
[21:20] <wad> So I'm running 64-bit 14.04 on an i7 with 16GB RAM. And I need to choose the right version of Percona to download. It asking if I want "i686" or "x86_64". They both look right! Which do I choose?
[21:21] <iWeed> daftykins: i've done it twice. lets check it one more time
[21:21] <dannymichel> ssh is working from mac to ubuntu but vmc isn't Jordan_U
[21:22] <squeegily_> I'm considering trying to apply this patch: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/64440959/psb-xvideo4.patch
[21:22] <squeegily_> Where should I go for help?
[21:22] <Jordan_U> wad: x86_64 is 64 bit, "i686" is 32 bit (and also specifies that it uses some instructions not available on really old 386's and 486's, but 32 bit none the less).
[21:22] <iWeed> daftykins: fat32 or any other format?
[21:22] <wad> Ah, okay. Thanks!
[21:22] <Jordan_U> wad: You're welcome.
[21:23] <daftykins> iWeed: should be fine yep
[21:23] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: What was the output, if any, from "ssh -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901 -N -f -l danny 10.0.1.8"?
[21:23] <dannymichel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9678819/ Jordan_U
[21:23] <iWeed> daftykins: ok
[21:24] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: OK, it looks like it worked successfully once.
[21:24] <dannymichel> yeah
[21:24] <GeekMan1222_> Hi if my bios supports wol from s5 state does that mean if linux issued a powerdown that when the machine recieves the magic packet it can turn on ?
[21:24] <dannymichel> but not sure why i can't connect using a VNC viewer or the "screen sharing" app
[21:25] <Jordan_U> GeekMan1222_: Yes.
[21:25] <GeekMan1222_> thank you so much
[21:25] <GeekMan1222_> :)
[21:25] <GeekMan1222_> sweet
[21:25] <Jordan_U> GeekMan1222_: You're welcome.
[21:26] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: Please post a screenshot of the configuration screen for OSX's VNC viewer, and any error message given when attempting to connect.
[21:26] <dannymichel> ok
[21:28] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur.com/7tltZD4.png
[21:28] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur.com/vId1yNE.png
[21:29] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur.com/sYwTdjq.png Jordan_U
[21:30] <FF-Help> Hi all.  Would anyone happen to know where FireFox's "use system proxy settings" network option points to in Ubuntu (14.04.1 LTS [Trusty])?  I am trying to troubleshoot why this setting works for reaching the internet, but using null proxy or my company proxy settings doesn't.
[21:31] <zr0> i can't get any output over my board's builtin serial ports, but I can get output over my USB to serial adapters.. is there a method to see if the serial devices/driver is actually seeing data/servicing the irqs, etc?
[21:31] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: What are the options for "encryption"?
[21:31] <squeegily_> FF-Help: usually Environment variables, $http_proxy, etc
[21:32] <squeegily_> Open a terminal and type 'env | grep -i proxy' (without quotes) and see what it says
[21:32] <dannymichel> always maximum always on prefer on prefer off Jordan_U
[21:32] <FF-Help> squeegily_:  where would I check that?  It doesn't appear to be "etc/environment" or listed within "export".
[21:32] <squeegily_> FF-Help: Try env instead of export
[21:32] <squeegily_> And remember to add -i to grep
[21:33] <squeegily_> env | grep -i proxy
[21:33] <dannymichel> all settings lead to connection refused Jordan_U
[21:33] <ubuntu_> any advantages of using ubuntu? or should i just stick to mint 17 and arch?
[21:33] <squeegily_> ubuntu_: Wow Mint and Arch are like polar opposites
[21:34] <ubuntu_> squeegily_, thats the point
[21:34] <pbx> ubuntu_, that's way too fuzzy a question. what are your goals and criteria?
[21:34] <obXiDeJSFQ> `/win 12
[21:34] <ubuntu_> pbx: learning, developing
[21:34] <mucus> ubuntu with unity
[21:34] <squeegily_> ubuntu_: I'd say just stick with Mint and Arch. I personally use Xubuntu and recommend/recruit with Mint XFCE
[21:34] <FF-Help> squeegily_:  Thanks.  I grep'd on env - the output is the same as what I have listed for export.  And when I use the settings listed as manual inputs in FireFox it doesn't work...so it must be checking something else?
[21:35] <ubuntu_> squeegily_, xfce eh. fun?
[21:35] <mucus> i love xfce
[21:35] <bubbasaures> ubuntu_, Off topic we are no here to convince you of anything, make your own decision.
[21:35] <bubbasaures> not*
[21:35] <ubuntu_> bubbasaures, suck a d. nobody asked you
[21:36] <squeegily_> ubuntu_: I love it. It's a great balance between fast and feature-filled. But I suppose this belongs on #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[21:36] <daftykins> !language | ubuntu_
[21:36] <mucus> wow this ubuntu_ guy is a bit snippy
[21:36] <squeegily_> I thought it was funny
[21:36] <daftykins> it's inappropriate here and should not be encouraged.
[21:37] <ubuntu_> mucus: dont like it when people play the tattletale role. if the room was swarming with peoplee asking for help i wouldnt have asked my silly question
[21:37] <squeegily_> True
[21:37] <squeegily_> I mean what daftykins said it true
[21:37] <ubuntu_> daftykins, i know. my bad
[21:37] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_: Please keep comments respecfull in this channel.
[21:37] <mucus> ubuntu_ doesn't mean it's cool to tell someone to "suck a d" we both know that's rude and impolite
[21:38] <ubuntu_> now whos off topic lol
[21:38] <ubuntu_> ^^^^^^^
[21:38] <dannymichel> guess this won't work Jordan_U?
[21:38] <squeegily_> FF-Help: Maybe run curl -v http://www.google.com and check what it does
[21:39] <squeegily_> If you really wanted to you could tcpdump that and compare it with a tcpdump of the first 30 seconds of Firefox running
[21:42] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: I would recommend trying vino, which comes with Ubuntu by default, and I believe does the setup of the encryption and VNC connection in the same app (as opposed to this tutorial which does it in two steps). I think vino will also advertise via avahi (bonjour implementation for linux), allowing you to do away with ip addresses and just generally simplifying things.
[21:42] <dannymichel> ok ill try that
[21:42] <dannymichel> brb.
[21:43] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#vino
[21:43] <PreSSion> i am going to try install kubuntu in surface pro 3, pls, i need good luck!
[21:44] <FF-Help> squeegily_:  Harrum....this might take a little bit to parse through.  Will get back to you shortly.
[21:47] <squeegily_> FF-Help: Kudos for even taking that on
[21:48] <FF-Help> squeegily_:  Resolved!  Thanks for the suggestion to check that out.
[21:49] <daftykins> FF-Help: what was the answer?
[21:49] <FF-Help> squeegily_:  It remains a mystery to me where it is finding the particular proxy (it adds a subdomain) though...will need to hunt around the system for this.  Any tips for a mass-system search (unless you can think of another particular file it checks)?
[21:50] <squeegily_> FF-Help: Perhaps the thing that's connected to Gnome that seems like the Windows Registry
[21:50] <squeegily_> Dconf!
[21:50] <FF-Help> daftykins:  The exact proxy won't do you any good - halfway to the answer of where its pointing to, as now I know what to search for.
[21:50] <FF-Help> squeegily_:  ??
[21:53] <www2> hi i have some problem with java when i start a java with my monitor setup (L:1680x1050(16:10) R:1920x1080(16:9))
[21:54] <squeegily_> FF-Help: Look at the dconf editor and see if there's anything proxy-related
[21:54] <www2> whene i wand to start a java program/app the window is ferry short left to right) and long (top to botom)
[21:57] <FF-Help> squeegily_:  There isn't.
[21:58] <squeegily_> Darn. It was worth a shot, though - that's the first place Chromium checks
[21:58] <squeegily_> for proxy settings
[21:59] <skweek> I have a usb to ethernet adaptor that I can't find drivers for online
[21:59] <FF-Help> squeegily_:  It's actually been a couple years since I used Ubuntu, but I recall there being a default-provided app in Ubuntu for forensic searches.  Do you recall what that would be?  I'm thinking of grepping for the particular proxy line...obviously this search might run for a good lil' while.
[22:00] <stangeland> i do sudo ufw disable and it says: "Firewall stopped and disabled on system startup". Does that mean firewall is still enabled and will first be disabled upon next startup?
[22:01] <petepiano1960> skweek: you sure you need a driver ?
[22:01] <daftykins> skweek: from what i recall you never shared the output of "dmesg | tail" after plugging the thing in
[22:01] <skweek> I did
[22:01] <skweek> http://pastebin.com/index/dGhq39Eh
[22:01] <skweek> it's still in my log
[22:02] <daftykins> skweek: anything on that virtual CD drive device?
[22:02] <stangeland> i do sudo ufw disable and it says: "Firewall stopped and disabled on system startup". Does that mean firewall is still enabled and will first be disabled upon next startup?
[22:02] <skweek> but like 30 minutes later I ran out to drive up my friend somewhere
[22:02] <skweek> windows and mac os x drivers
[22:03] <delta9> how do you use the shutdown command?
[22:03] <skweek> shutdown -e I think, look at shutdown -h or man shutdown delta
[22:04] <skweek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2148313 was what I was looking at when doing a run through
[22:04] <daftykins> delta9: "sudo shutdown -h 0" = off, "sudo shutdown -r 0" = reboot
[22:04] <skweek> but well it's not a solved thread
[22:04] <delta9> thanks
[22:04] <daftykins> yeah, i'm on that one now - i see talk of ndiswrapper
[22:04] <Arianne23>  High Quality photos and videos http://s0o.de/f4t4dss
[22:04] <squeegily_> FF-Help: You could do sudo grep -r -i proxy /
[22:05] <FF-Help> Does anyone know the native Ubuntu utility for searching (i.e. forensics) an entire drive for all instances of a particular phrase (e.g. search entire drive for references to "Mary Poppins")?
[22:05] <squeegily_> It's called locate
[22:05] <squeegily_> I think
[22:05] <daftykins> sudo updatedb && locate foo
[22:06] <squeegily_> locate -i proxy /
[22:06] <Pici> FF-Help: find or grep
[22:06] <FF-Help> nah; not locate (I thought that was just for filenames though?).  Thinking of something else.  It can parse through a terrabyte in about 30min
[22:06] <daftykins> skweek: i see talk of a dm9601 driver but someone on another distro not getting it working either. there's some kind of USB mode switching needed by the sounds of it, so i doubt you're going to get anywhere
[22:07] <squeegily_> strings /dev/sda | grep? :^)
[22:09] <Jordan_U> FF-Help: You don't have a drive that can read 1 TiB in 30 minutes.
[22:09] <dannymichel> vino is working flawlessly Jordan_U. thanks
[22:09] <squeegily_> Yeah the drive read speed is going to be the chokepoint
[22:09] <squeegily_> So you can use basically any utility you want
[22:09] <stangeland> i do sudo ufw disable and it says: "Firewall stopped and disabled on system startup". Does that mean firewall is still enabled and will first be disabled upon next startup?
[22:10] <squeegily_> Well, the drive read speed componded with the filesystem overhead
[22:10] <daftykins> stangeland: check if the rules are still present.
[22:10] <stangeland> daftykins, how
[22:11] <FF-Help> hmmm - you're right.  I'm probably thinking of working with images of drives - regardless, doesn't suit the circumstance.
[22:11] <Jordan_U> FF-Help: Also consider the fact that most file formats containing text are compressed.
[22:11] <sidewalk> which ubuntu 14.10 do i install if i want to run it on raid1, server?
[22:11] <stangeland> daftykins, ahh sudo ufw status verbose returns inactive
[22:11] <daftykins> ;)
[22:11] <k1l_> sidewalk: the server edition?
[22:11] <sidewalk> k1l_: and then just install the desktop package?
[22:12] <Jordan_U> daftykins: You're welcome.
[22:12] <k1l_> sidewalk: but if you dont want to upgrade your ubuntu every 6months you will like to install the 14.04 lts
[22:12] <FF-Help> Jordan_U:  Yeah; possibility of missing it entirely certainly exists.  Would be better if someone just knew where Firefox grabbed it from.  I've trawled the Web and Ubuntu docs, but found zip.
[22:12] <daftykins> Jordan_U: i... i am? :)
[22:12] <k1l_> sidewalk: ah, you dont want to install a server?
[22:12] <Jordan_U> dannymichel: You're welcome.
[22:12] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Sorry, mistab :)
[22:12] <FF-Help> brb
[22:12] <daftykins> np :)
[22:13] <Jordan_U> FF-Help: What is your end goal?
[22:13] <sidewalk> k1l_: upgrade every 6 months is ok
[22:13] <sidewalk> k1l_: but ill install the server, tnx
[22:14] <k1l_> sidewalk: no. you can take the desktop id you want to run desktop anyway
[22:14] <sidewalk> k1l_: does it install on a partitioned raid?
[22:14] <k1l_> but you might need to install mdadm first in the live system before you can setup a raid
[22:15] <sidewalk> the server is fine
[22:15] <k1l_> sidewalk: see if that helps: http://blog.tshirtman.fr/2014/5/4/install-ubuntu-desktop-on-software-raid
[22:16] <sidewalk> tnx k1l_ :D
[22:19] <stangeland> How do i check if ping has been disabled on a machine?
[22:19] <Jordan_U> sidewalk: What do you mean by "does it install on a partitioned raid?"? Your RAID arrays should be made up of member partitions (rather than member drives), and generally LVM is used on top of that rather than a partition table as it allows more flexability.
[22:21] <sidewalk> Jordan_U: sorry for asking wrong, they are setup properly, thanks
[22:22] <FF-Help> Jordan_U:  My end goal is to identify where FireFox's "use system proxy settings" network option points to in Ubuntu (14.04.1 LTS [Trusty]).  I am trying to troubleshoot why this setting works for reaching the internet, when null proxy and manually configured proxy doesn't work.
[22:23] <FF-Help> Jordan_U:  Using env/path its clear the proxy is set for my corporate proxy.  But when looking at sample connection (data transfer) from a firefox connection, it clearly uses a different proxy (similar to corporate, but with subdomains included).  Wondering what's going on here, basically.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> FF-Help: Have you checked the environment variable $http_proxy?
[22:24] <FF-Help> Jordan_U:  Yes.  env/export indicate corporate proxy (sans subdomains).  Captured traffic indicates corporate proxy (with subdomains).
[22:25] <FF-Help> When manually configuring FF to use corporate proxy (sans subdomains) it fails.  When  manually configured to use corporate proxy (with subdomains) it succeeds.  Somewhere its acquiring this info and its unclear where.
[22:27] <theadmin> FF-Help: The proxy setting in System Settings -> Network, perhaps?
[22:28] <FF-Help> theadmin:  That's what I'm referring too.  Where does the "use system proxy settings" from that tab source proxy settings from.
[22:28] <FF-Help> theadmin: oh, misunderstood
[22:29] <Jordan_U> FF-Help: gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http host
[22:31] <FF-Help> Jordan_U:  That indicates my corporate proxy (sans subdomains).
[22:33] <Jordan_U> FF-Help: Try asking in #firefox.
[22:40] <AdNauseaum> jesus christ, just got home. i just got attacked by a wild pack of niggers. do you believe this shit!? like, get the fuck off me
[22:40] <tgunr> Install UB14.04 onto a VM, no problem, apt-get upgrade, no problem, apt-get dist-upgrade, no problem, apt-get install mysql-server, problem: `mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.5; however:
[22:40] <tgunr>   Package mysql-server-5.5 is not configured yet.`
[22:41] <BlueProtoman> How can I try several login passphrases for ecryptfs in rapid succession?  I don't exactly remember my passphrase, but I have a few ideas as to what it might be
[22:41] <tgunr> Why is this so hard to do on Ubuntu?
[22:42] <BlueProtoman> And I don't want to have to run sudo ecryptfs-recover-private every time
[22:42] <Jordan_U> tgunr: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo apt-get install mysql-server".
[22:43] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Still here?
[22:43] <tgunr> http://polymicro.clarify-it.com/d/nnj6dp
[22:44] <icewalker> hi
[22:45] <Jordan_U> tgunr: Please pastebin the output of "sudo dpkg --configure -a".
[22:45] <Jordan_U> tgunr: What type of VM are you using?
[22:46] <tgunr> http://polymicro.clarify-it.com/d/nnj6dp
[22:46] <tgunr> proxmox
[22:46] <tgunr> pve-manager/3.1-21/93bf03d4 (running kernel: 2.6.32-26-pve)
[22:47] <Jordan_U> tgunr: Is this a container or a virtual machine?
[22:47] <tgunr> container, UB14.04 x86_64
[22:49] <Jordan_U> tgunr: That, or corrupted install media, is likely contributing to this failure, as I would be very surprised if this happened on real hardware or a full virtual machine (like kvm).
[22:49] <tgunr> ok, will try KVM
[22:49] <BlueProtoman> Jordan_U: Can I try several passphrases in a row with ecryptfs-recover-private?  I don't remember exactly what mine is, but I have some candidates.  As it is, I can only try one at a time
[22:52] <EriC^^> how many candidates do you have/
[22:54] <Jordan_U> BlueProtoman: I don't think so, but if you provide the path to the ecryptfs directory it should speed up ecryptfs-recover-private greatly, making entering it multiple times (or running it in a loop) more feasable.
[22:54] <BlueProtoman> Jordan_U: I can do that?  How, ecryptfs-recover-private <the path>?
[22:54] <Jordan_U> BlueProtoman: Yes, and exactly like that.
[22:58] <andrew_> hi
[22:59] <Jordan_U> BlueProtoman: Does that make it fast enough for simply looping to be feasable?
[23:00] <BlueProtoman> Jordan_U: More or less
[23:04] <Aro2220> Does anyone have an easy set of instructions to install a mail server on Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:14] <danny_> basically, since the destination hard drive is too small, what i want to do is rsync folders in my X drive from letters A-M, since M-Z is already on another drive. is this possible?
[23:14] <danny_> half that message got cut off
[23:15] <EriC^^> danny_: yes, it's possible
[23:17] <danny_> EriC^^, youve helped me enough tonight. i wonder if there is an example i can find on google? the rsync manual was a bit confusing, unless you dont mind showing me an example
[23:17] <EriC^^> danny_: rsync [A-M]* /path/to/destination
[23:18] <EriC^^> danny_: rsync -av [A-M]* /path/to/destination
[23:18] <danny_> wow, that's crazy. so it would literally only do top level folders a-m?
[23:18] <EriC^^> yes everything that starts with the letters a to m
[23:19] <danny_> rsync -av [A-M]* /local/path /path/to/destination
[23:19] <danny_> ?
[23:19] <EriC^^> no you have to be in the dir
[23:19] <tgunr> and remeber destination is different thane destination/
[23:19] <danny_> oh ok
[23:19] <EriC^^> else use /local/path/[A-M]*
[23:20] <EriC^^> it's a bash expansion
[23:20] <danny_> thanks EriC^^
[23:20] <EriC^^> no problem
[23:20] <danny_> what if it  starts with numbers. #-M?
[23:21] <EriC^^> numbers are 0-9
[23:22] <EriC^^> try /local/path/+([0-9]|[A-M])*
[23:23] <danny_> ok great
[23:23] <EriC^^> danny_: oh wait, you mean if it starts with numbers, but the rest is A-M
[23:24] <danny_> yes
[23:24] <danny_> rsync -av  /local/path/+([0-9]|[A-M])* me@ipaddress:/media/some
[23:24] <EriC^^> remove the | in that case
[23:24] <EriC^^> | means or
[23:24] <EriC^^> try /local/path/+([0-9][A-M])*
[23:24] <danny_> rsync -av  /local/path/+([0-9][A-M])* me@ipaddress:/media/some
[23:24] <EriC^^> yup
[23:25] <danny_> aweome. thanks again
[23:25] <EriC^^> np
[23:26] <danrik> how can I cehck what took all of the space on my ubuntu-server?
[23:26] <danny_> oh wow, any way to combine so i dont have to wait for rsync to finish doing its thing on once drive then doing the other? like simultaniously instead of &&?
[23:27] <danny_> like copy a-m to dive 1 and also copy n-z to drive 2
[23:27] <danny_> really would be n-special characters like chinese letters
[23:28] <adamfreddy> guys, can i use auto-scrolling on midori browser?
[23:28] <adamfreddy> is that possible?
[23:28] <danny_> EriC^^,
[23:30] <EriC^^> maybe if you background it
[23:31] <EriC^^> danny_: not sure if rsync has built in features for that
[23:32] <danny_> k
[23:32] <danny_> but i can just open different 'screen' and run multiple rsyncs i guess
[23:32] <bekks> danny_: Just start rsync in parallel; rsync cmd1 & rsync cmd2 &
[23:32] <EriC^^> you could run rsync -av ... & then run rsync -av ... &
[23:32] <bekks> And both rsync cmd1+cmd2 will run in parallel, in background
[23:33] <danny_> oh so & means at the same time and && means wait for 1 to finish then do 2 bekks ?
[23:33] <EriC^^> danny_: & means run in the background
[23:33] <danny_> oh ok
[23:33] <bekks> danny_: & means "start in background" and cmd1 && cmd2 means "start cmd2 if cmd1 dinished successfully"
[23:34] <danny_> gotcha
[23:34] <danny_> thanks a lot
[23:38] <FF-Help> Hi.  Can anyone tell me how to input "fi" (to end an "If" statement) when supplying bash commands via terminal one at a time (i.e. how to close an "If" statement outside of a regular pre-written bash script that you'd later execute)?
[23:39] <FF-Help> It seems you can't just write the "fi" in the "> " part.  And the only way I know how to exit that is with ctrl+C, which breaks it.
[23:40] <ikonia> FF-Help: what are you doing ?
[23:40] <EriC^^> FF-Help: you can do if [ ]; then ....; fi
[23:40] <CAM`> hi guys... can someone point me to a guide on how to secure Ubuntu 14.04 server?
[23:40] <ikonia> CAM`: there is no guide
[23:41] <FF-Help> ikonia:  I'm passing commands directly to terminal.
[23:41] <ikonia> CAM`: it depends on a lot of things and your specific setup and requirements
[23:41] <ikonia> FF-Help: right, why are you using an if statement on the command line
[23:41] <ikonia> it's normally used to evaluate options for non-interactice scripts
[23:41] <FF-Help> I know.  Just doing some tests / exploring terminal functionality.
[23:42] <FF-Help> EriC^^:  Is there a way to do it without supplying it all in a single line?
[23:42] <ikonia> FF-Help: it's not a very real world test, it's certainly not common
[23:42] <ikonia> FF-Help: ";" is a terminator
[23:42] <EriC^^> FF-Help: why would you not want to supply it on one line?
[23:42] <ikonia> you'll find it very hard to use on a single command line
[23:42] <ikonia> hence why it's normally done in scripts
[23:42] <CAM`> basically i want to start with only Cacti/Nagios/FreeRadius/Syslog on the server....maybe in the future i might add more.... i just want to secure it from any hackers who could possibly use my server for sending out spam or anything else...
[23:43] <EriC^^> FF-Help: you can do if [ ]; then ....; \
[23:43] <ikonia> CAM`: lock down the mail relay, lock down the user accounts, lock down the web interface
[23:43] <EriC^^> then type fi <enter>
[23:43] <ikonia> CAM`: there is no guide
[23:44] <CAM`> can i post a link on here? i found a guide... just not sure if i should follow this or is there another better way...
[23:44] <ikonia> CAM`: you shouldn't follow guides
[23:44] <FF-Help> EriC^^:  hmm...doesn't seem to work.  the semicolon seems to break it.
[23:44] <ikonia> securing your system personal to you
[23:45] <CAM`> i understand your view... however i am still novice to Ubuntu...
[23:45] <ikonia> FF-Help: perhaps take this to #bash
[23:45] <ikonia> FF-Help: as your doing a pretty "odd" situation that is specific to bash
[23:48] <filipemanuel> Trying install OS on SSD but “Erro: no such device d7a2c…”, already tried this http://askubuntu.com/a/143668 but wasn't successful.
[23:48] <ikonia> filipemanuel: where areyou getting that error ?
[23:49] <filipemanuel> ikonia: when I'm trying to boot system
[23:49] <ikonia> filipemanuel: did you install it from a USB stick ?
[23:49] <ikonia> or a DVD
[23:49] <filipemanuel> yes ikonia
[23:50] <filipemanuel> live-usb
[23:50] <ikonia> filipemanuel: how many hard disks are in your system ?
[23:50] <filipemanuel> ikonia: 1 HD 1 SSD that I put on CD/DVD place
[23:51] <filipemanuel> ikonia: which was installed in place of the CD-ROM drive*
[23:51] <ikonia> filipemanuel: what point of the boot process do you get that error
[23:51] <BlueProtoman> I finially remembered my ecryptfs passphrase!  ...Except now when I run "sudo ecryptfs-mount-private" I get the error "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly".  Now what?
[23:52] <filipemanuel> ikonia: I do not know if I understand well but when I turn on my computer
[23:52] <ikonia> filipemanuel: take a photo of the error and share it on the web, that would be the quicked way to see where you are getting it
[23:53] <filipemanuel> ikonia: On HD put the /home directory, while the SSD left the / and the swap area
[23:54] <BlueProtoman> daftykins, Jordan_U, please help, I'm so close
[23:54] <ThePendulum> So my router had a bit of a cough, and thus an sshfs connection fractured, freezing up nautilus and gedit, and neither will start. Any idea how I can unmount the sshfs share in an attempt to run everything again?
[23:55] <filipemanuel> ikonia: http://i.imgur.com/qPyRE39.jpg