| DoverMo | CubebUtils for html5 playback? is this normal? | 01:30 |
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| DoverMo | i don't think i've ever seen it before | 01:30 |
| DoverMo | looks like it's in mozillas source code | 01:43 |
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| leighton | hey guys anyone got a link on how to add a new resolution. brand new hp laptop will only run 800x600. searched google and tried what they say and am getting all sorts of errors | 09:37 |
| leighton | ubuntustudio btw 14.04 lts | 09:37 |
| cfhowlett | leighton, you gotta get the right video card driver | 09:39 |
| ya_ | Всем привет | 12:59 |
| cfhowlett | !ru | ya_ | 13:01 |
| ubottu | ya_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 13:01 |
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| darkad | Hi all, have you ever tried to optimize your distro? | 15:21 |
| holstein | darkad: yes | 15:31 |
| holstein | darkad: i actually, to borrow something from Yoda, have not tried.. i just do it | 15:31 |
| holstein | i have optimized a filesystem for ssd.. i have optimized a kernel for various hardware support.. optimized lots of different parts of many operating system.. phone OS's for battery life.. etc | 15:32 |
| darkad | Where can I start from to optimize my os? | 15:33 |
| holstein | darkad: you would first state the intention, and either search for that, or a volunteer can assist | 15:34 |
| holstein | like "i am trying to optimize my operating system for web browsing".. or, whatever you are trying to do.. | 15:34 |
| holstein | if its "im trying to optimize ubuntustudio for audio production"... it is already optmized for that.. | 15:35 |
| holstein | if its not meeting your needs, you share, again, what those specific needs are.. | 15:35 |
| darkad | the fan coolers are so noisy while I browse on internet, everytime I change a webpage, fan start in a noisy way ! | 15:39 |
| holstein | darkad: sounds to me like, you are likely using flash | 15:39 |
| holstein | you can read here http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ | 15:40 |
| darkad | no | 15:40 |
| holstein | adobe doesnt create current flash for desktop linux. they make it for chrome | 15:40 |
| holstein | i suggest trying the chrome browser with the built-in current flash player.. then you can see if your performance is "better" | 15:40 |
| holstein | also, another factor is the GPU driver.. if you have a proprietary graphics driver available, you can try that | 15:41 |
| holstein | !ati | 15:41 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 15:41 |
| darkad | performance are better with chrome but it's noisy although I don't browse flash websites. | 15:41 |
| holstein | if not, you can look into the hardware as well.. see that its not malfunctioning.. | 15:41 |
| darkad | I've isntalled latest intel driver from 01.org | 15:42 |
| holstein | darkad: you should be using the one in the repos | 15:42 |
| holstein | darkad: regardless, i'll just list the possibilities, and you can rule them ou | 15:42 |
| holstein | out* | 15:42 |
| darkad | are same driver but older | 15:42 |
| holstein | darkad: i would open the machine, and look and see that the cooler is attached properly, and that the fans are working.. and that its clean | 15:43 |
| holstein | i would test with live isos.. i'll also pull my hard drive so i can test and not worry about breaking it | 15:43 |
| holstein | darkad: it can be a possibility that the hardware is not intended to perform as well under linux | 15:43 |
| darkad | fans are ok until I start browsing on internet | 15:44 |
| darkad | If I don't change page after two minutes the noise is reduced | 15:44 |
| holstein | darkad: sure, friend.. but, we konw that "then internet" is not making your machine hot | 15:45 |
| holstein | darkad: so, you look into the processes and drivers that are running, and what they are doing | 15:45 |
| holstein | darkad: or, you accept that, since you are not promised linux support, you may have to deal with compromises like that | 15:45 |
| holstein | darkad: if all is well, and the performance is acceptable, then, i would just use the machine as is | 15:45 |
| holstein | darkad: one thing i also would want to test is the default generic kernel with the ubuntu repo drivers in place.. nothing added.. i would do that with the stock ubuntu iso or xubuntu iso live | 15:46 |
| darkad | in which way you would look into processes and drivers that are running? | 15:48 |
| holstein | darkad: what i do, friend, is i'll actually remove the hard drive, so i can *really* test these factors ,and force reset if needed | 15:50 |
| holstein | this is on a new machine that i want to force linux on, which is what we are doing | 15:50 |
| holstein | you are taking a machine that states support for a completely different operating system,a nd forcing it to run something else | 15:51 |
| holstein | a team of professionals were paid and worked years, likely, to make sure that hardware ran cool and quiet in windows or another OS | 15:51 |
| holstein | we are taking that responsibility on ourselves, when we choose to put something else on it | 15:51 |
| darkad | it's like running os from usb | 15:52 |
| holstein | i'll test with differtent live iso's.. i wont use the niche flavors like ubuntustudio.. i'll test with main ubuntu, and/or xubuntu | 15:52 |
| holstein | i want the largese community of relevant support | 15:52 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu, so, anything i learn at ubuntu support will be relevant, but, im not at the niche audio-specific support avenue asking about hardware level support that is not addressed specifically in the community | 15:53 |
| holstein | i'll use the latest LTS, and any other support LTS.. 12.04, and 14.04 now, as well as any other versions like the upcoming release | 15:53 |
| holstein | i want different kernels, for testing different hardware support.. i'll also entertain the possibility that, everything is just fine, and thats the way it will actually function in linux | 15:54 |
| holstein | its likely, well know, and common for hardware to take a hit in performance, due to driver support in linux | 15:54 |
| darkad | well I think ubuntustudio can be considered as an os itself | 15:56 |
| holstein | darkad: no doubt | 15:57 |
| holstein | darkad: i didnt say, nor imply that its not | 15:57 |
| holstein | darkad: im simply telling you the fact that, we dont address anything relevant to hardware support like that | 15:57 |
| holstein | darkad: everything, that would effect the driver support, or process issues you are tracking down, relevant to your fan speed, is directly inherited from upstream | 15:57 |
| holstein | darkad: and, when i stop typing, its just you here.. by yourself | 15:58 |
| holstein | darkad: so, im explaining to you what i would do, since ubuntustuduio is not responsible for addressing those issues, and it is using all the same software repos from upstream | 15:58 |
| holstein | darkad: this is simply a way for you to get an actual community of support.. volunteers that *are* in the area of providing support for the tools and software that can be effecting your fan speed | 15:59 |
| holstein | darkad: you should do this with a live iso, since you are not using the ubuntu drivers any longer | 15:59 |
| holstein | darkad: if you use intel's driver, you get support from intel.. | 15:59 |
| darkad | It was the same before Intel driver installation. I think that something changes when the cpu ondemand changes the power or speed requested from cpu. You are asking to talk about it in ubuntu channel, by doing the same experiment with a live iso. I would like to find a solution now, with my operating system. Anyway if you don't want to talk about cpu governor choice on an ubuntustudio os, do that, as I'm free to talk about it, in this ubuntustudio ch | 16:11 |
| darkad | annel isnt'it? | 16:11 |
| cfhowlett | darkad, he suggested a reasonable troubleshooting method to localize the issue ... | 16:12 |
| darkad | I understood it and I'll try, it's reasonable but it's one of ways to find the solution, I think. Would we try with debian os too? | 16:16 |
| cfhowlett | darkad, can't advise you on debian ... | 16:16 |
| holstein | darkad: what im actually suggesting is, there may be *no* "solution". that there actually may be nothing wrong | 16:16 |
| holstein | darkad: the linux kernel is modular, and, though, i do personally suggest trying different distros, i think you'll find *all* major distros contain the same driver for your hardware | 16:17 |
| holstein | darkad: and, we are assuming its driver support, still.. | 16:17 |
| holstein | darkad: you are free and welcome to be in this channel for as long as you like.. we are glad to have you.. all im suggesting is a way to get to a place that actually deals with that level of support | 16:18 |
| holstein | darkad: this channel is more specific to the higher level of audio specific configruation.. we dont do anything on that level.. we just inherit the kernel from upstream.. dont address any hardware support here | 16:19 |
| holstein | *we dont address hardware support here, in this community, i mean... though, you are welcome to ask, certainly, here, anytime you like... | 16:21 |
| darkad | Thank you anyway! | 16:27 |
| holstein | thats just how i address that *exact* issue, personally.. which, i'll find that, about half the time, a GPU driver effects the fans speed in some way.. the rest of the time, no change | 16:29 |
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