| jjfrv8 | brainwash, I took your suggestion re the ppa, but no joy. I updated the bug report with the results. | 00:57 |
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| jjfrv8 | this laptop is just a testbed for now so I'm willing to try anything on it. | 00:58 |
| ochosi | morning everyone | 07:30 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: You again? :( | 09:28 |
| ochosi | Unit193: yeah, me again. when's the next team meeting? :) | 09:28 |
| Unit193 | Monday. | 09:29 |
| ochosi | ah right, that's today | 09:30 |
| Unit193 | Unless we have nothing, but in that case I'm more inclined to do a 3 minute meeting and get it over with already. :P | 09:35 |
| ochosi | heh | 09:46 |
| === paolo_ is now known as paolo | ||
| ochosi | bluesabre: i've added support for a custom panel background for ubiquity's panel in greybird (git master) and also pushed a branch with the relevant changes to ubiquity to a branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/ubiquity/xubuntu-panel-bg | 13:33 |
| ochosi | might do some more changes to greybird, but as soon as we have that version supporting it uploaded, i'd create the MR based on that branch | 13:34 |
| brainwash | jjfrv8: you should also test a recent kernel version, 3.17 or 3.18 | 13:40 |
| brainwash | jjfrv8: vivid still ships with 3.16. this could be reason why even upgrading to vivid did not fix the issue | 13:42 |
| jjfrv8 | brainwash, so then 3.16 was a regression? Because things worked fine in Trusty and then broke in Utopic. | 13:46 |
| brainwash | jjfrv8: possible, things change rapidly | 13:47 |
| brainwash | from 3.13 to 3.16 to 3.17/18 | 13:47 |
| jjfrv8 | if you can point me to a how-to on how to get .17 or .18, I'd be willing to try them. | 13:48 |
| brainwash | easiest way would be to use http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 13:49 |
| brainwash | and install the deb file manually (+ header deb files if needed) | 13:50 |
| jjfrv8 | might try it this evening, off to work now. | 13:50 |
| brainwash | sure, now we know at least that we don't need to blame the power manager :) | 13:51 |
| jjfrv8 | yup | 13:52 |
| ochosi | would've been a small surprise anyway | 13:55 |
| ochosi | ;) | 13:55 |
| === cmars` is now known as cmars | ||
| elfy | ochosi: could make no sense of the diff (obviously) did the panel update I got today include the intelligent hide/shaded window issue? | 15:39 |
| elfy | hope not ... | 15:39 |
| ochosi | elfy: yeah | 15:44 |
| ochosi | that issue hasn't been entirely resolved yet | 15:44 |
| ochosi | my patch needs some amendments before it can be mergred | 15:44 |
| ochosi | merged | 15:44 |
| ochosi | the diff linked to above was only for ubiquity and has nothing to do with our user-session | 15:44 |
| elfy | cool - that's fine - just wanted to make sure - as it hadn't worked here :D | 15:45 |
| ochosi | another issue i noticed is regarding the clipboard in vivid | 15:45 |
| ochosi | that seems to be strangely broken for me | 15:45 |
| elfy | mmmm | 15:45 |
| slickymasterWork | hey guys | 15:46 |
| slickymasterWork | hope everyone had a nice holidays | 15:46 |
| ochosi | hey slickymasterWork | 15:46 |
| slickymasterWork | hi ochosi | 15:46 |
| ochosi | elfy: does "mmmm" mean you see that too? | 15:46 |
| ochosi | yeah, as i wasn't here for most of the holidays, i obviously had a good time ;) | 15:47 |
| slickymasterWork | unfortunately something come up and I won't be able to attend today's meeting | 15:47 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi, elfy ^^^ | 15:47 |
| ochosi | righty | 15:47 |
| ochosi | i'm not sure i'll be back in time either | 15:47 |
| ochosi | have a dinner @friends place | 15:48 |
| elfy | rarely use clipboards tbh - when I have been it's worked ok - what sort of issues are you seeing? | 15:48 |
| slickymasterWork | any way, I've sent the second call for translations to the ML, today | 15:48 |
| slickymasterWork | * anyway | 15:48 |
| elfy | ochosi slickymasterWork so - opinion on doing alpha 2 ? | 15:49 |
| ochosi | i don't see any roadblocks for alpha2 currently | 15:49 |
| slickymasterWork | I don't see why we wouldn't | 15:49 |
| elfy | I meant whether to bother or not ? | 15:49 |
| ochosi | in terms of getting more community testing, it might be a good step | 15:49 |
| slickymasterWork | it's not that much more work, tbh | 15:50 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: lol - well I don't see why we would tbh | 15:50 |
| ochosi | right, so your point is that nobody will test anyway? | 15:50 |
| elfy | if we were chucking stuff into the mix that we wanted testing from staging perhaps | 15:50 |
| slickymasterWork | why we wouldn't = just 4 additional test, not that much elfy | 15:50 |
| elfy | ochosi: not so much that - just whether there's an issue | 15:51 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: if it was that simple I would agree - but it's not - sometimes they remember to set it up | 15:51 |
| slickymasterWork | of course, one could also do some package testing while at it ;) | 15:51 |
| elfy | if not there's chasing people in the right timezone to turn it on | 15:51 |
| elfy | then there's days of chasing to get it turned off again so we can carry on doing dailies | 15:52 |
| elfy | and the pointless exercise in doing release notes here there and everywhere for people to ignore | 15:52 |
| elfy | so , no it's not just 4 addition tests ;) | 15:52 |
| ochosi | release notes pile up though | 15:52 |
| slickymasterWork | I see your point elfy, and I won't argue it because I know why it's a valid point, but if we're going to vote it, I'd be +1 on doing a2 | 15:52 |
| ochosi | so it's not really useless to do them in the beginning | 15:52 |
| ochosi | just means less work towards the end of the cycle | 15:53 |
| elfy | k - thanks - just wanted your opinions if you're not going to be there :) | 15:54 |
| ochosi | sure :) | 15:54 |
| ochosi | i'm curious to hear what the others have to say on the matter too | 15:55 |
| slickymasterWork | np elfy, even if my opinion means some extra work to you | 15:55 |
| slickymasterWork | sorry for that :P | 15:55 |
| elfy | :) | 15:55 |
| ochosi | the workload should be shared among the release-team members though | 15:55 |
| elfy | I'm more likely to not releasing it to be honest :) | 15:55 |
| ochosi | that includes bluesabre and me :) | 15:56 |
| elfy | though I would love to be proved wrong of course | 15:56 |
| elfy | ochosi: yep - I know :D | 15:56 |
| ochosi | there are some major changes that warrant an a2 release imo | 15:56 |
| ochosi | e.g. gtk3 update | 15:56 |
| ochosi | but also systemd | 15:57 |
| elfy | systemd is still not default afaik | 15:57 |
| elfy | and THAT was the main reason for possibly doing A2 | 15:57 |
| ochosi | oh it isn't | 16:01 |
| elfy | just checking that | 16:01 |
| ochosi | i was under the impression it was | 16:01 |
| elfy | appears to not be systemd, PID1 is init and not systemd | 16:06 |
| ochosi | elfy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1411-systemd-migration | 16:15 |
| ochosi | still quite a few blockers | 16:15 |
| elfy | yep | 16:16 |
| elfy | I don't mind us doing it as such - just the main reason to take part this cycle in it - is missing :) | 16:16 |
| ochosi | actually i'm talking to some folks in u-devel now | 16:16 |
| elfy | ok | 16:16 |
| ochosi | seems like in the next grub release, ppl can choose whether to boot with upstart or systemd if both is installed | 16:17 |
| elfy | mmk | 16:17 |
| elfy | must be a new grub release, didn't notice this morning when I rebooted after that and panel updates | 16:17 |
| ochosi | yeah, hasnt landed yet i think | 16:18 |
| elfy | okey doke | 16:18 |
| brainwash | ochosi: the power manager is able to shutdown/hibernate/suspend the system after some inactivity, but what if the screen is locked in the meantime via light-locker? | 18:40 |
| brainwash | now the power manager is not in command anymore | 18:40 |
| brainwash | so, maybe not authorized to perform these actions anymore | 18:40 |
| brainwash | the power manager is restricted by upower + polkit | 18:41 |
| brainwash | bug 1319598 is currently assigned to xfpm, but is it really the one to blame? | 18:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1319598 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power manager no longer suspends 'power manager not authorised'" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1319598 | 18:43 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Yes the grub fix has landed, I saw the diff of /etc/grub.d/10_linux last update and noticed it was checking for inits. | 21:56 |
| Unit193 | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 22:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Jan 5 22:00:01 2015 UTC. The chair is Unit193. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 22:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | Howdy and welcome to the Xubuntu community meeting. Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | Anyone else here for it? | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | Oh yey, at least elfy is here. | 22:01 |
| elfy | yep | 22:01 |
| Unit193 | !team | Meeting time | 22:01 |
| ubottu | Meeting time: bluesabre, elfy, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 22:01 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 22:01 |
| Unit193 | #topic Open action items | 22:01 |
| elfy | just went to check grub ... | 22:02 |
| elfy | as I said earlier - not default ;) | 22:02 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Likely wouldn't be, systemd-sysv should be installed for that. | 22:02 |
| Unit193 | Alright, so I generally just see "elfy to converse with knome about QA processes" | 22:02 |
| elfy | yep | 22:02 |
| elfy | did that | 22:02 |
| Unit193 | Yey! That's all of them. | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | #topic Team updates | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | Free for all ^ | 22:03 |
| pleia2 | #info Received 20 bundles of stickers and Xubuntu stickers from unixstickers.com | 22:03 |
| elfy | \o/ | 22:03 |
| pleia2 | we can talk about those later :) | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | Yep, see that under discussion. | 22:04 |
| Unit193 | #info We should have xfce4-panel, xfce4-indicator-plugin, and thunar updates landing soon, new releases from Xfce. | 22:04 |
| Unit193 | Anyone else? | 22:04 |
| Unit193 | #topic Discussion items | 22:05 |
| elfy | #info 14/300 iso tests done in last 30 days | 22:05 |
| Unit193 | Ah, ouch... | 22:05 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic Discuss replacing gnome-calculator with galculator | 22:06 |
| pleia2 | I haven't done any, will remedy this (particularly as I prep for the QA event in SF next month) | 22:06 |
| Unit193 | Anyone there for this one? | 22:06 |
| Unit193 | I've done two upgrade tests, that's it. | 22:06 |
| elfy | I thought that that calc issue was going away and so no need to do anything | 22:06 |
| elfy | though I possibly misunderstood | 22:07 |
| pleia2 | I've not kept up with it at all | 22:07 |
| Unit193 | They may patch it so it doesn't have CSD anymore, which would be the biggest reason to get rid of it. | 22:07 |
| elfy | can't even remember what csd is ... | 22:07 |
| Unit193 | One of the two annoying new GNOME features, can't remember either which though. Alright, so moving on it is... | 22:08 |
| elfy | yep | 22:08 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic Alpha2 or ignore and just work with Beta's and Final? | 22:08 |
| elfy | so - given that systemd is NOT default | 22:09 |
| pleia2 | seemed to work fine to ignore them last cycle | 22:09 |
| elfy | the only reason that we were possibly going to do A2 was that | 22:09 |
| * pleia2 nods | 22:09 | |
| elfy | ochosi seems to like the idea of doing it | 22:09 |
| elfy | so does slickymaster | 22:10 |
| elfy | I don't - lot of work for little gain - and ^^ for the main reason to not | 22:10 |
| elfy | though ochosi did point to gtk3 updates landed | 22:10 |
| Unit193 | Yes, yes they did. Some things seem a little..off. | 22:11 |
| elfy | but we've got a week to make a decision | 22:11 |
| Unit193 | Indeed. I just defer to you on it. | 22:11 |
| knome | huh | 22:11 |
| knome | hello | 22:11 |
| Unit193 | knome: Hello! | 22:11 |
| pleia2 | hey knome | 22:11 |
| knome | fwiw, i'm still sick, so mostly watching | 22:11 |
| elfy | we'd need to have a decision 19th re A2 | 22:12 |
| elfy | knome: hi and :( | 22:12 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Otherwise, we have had a few xfce packages land, and are about to have a few more. | 22:12 |
| Unit193 | Anything else under this subtopic? | 22:12 |
| elfy | Unit193: properly land? | 22:12 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Yes. | 22:12 |
| elfy | k | 22:12 |
| knome | from what i've seen, probably better skip a2 | 22:12 |
| knome | we can probably use the time and effort better testing on something specific | 22:13 |
| elfy | frankly - it might be good to try and get things from staging into default - then I can see a reason | 22:13 |
| knome | can people confirm they'll have time to do that? | 22:13 |
| elfy | that said - it might be good to do A2 - so that when there isn't sufficient testing then everyone will know I was serious about blocking release | 22:14 |
| Unit193 | knome: Two systems I use are already on vivid, so it's a lot easier to test specifics than installs. | 22:14 |
| elfy | knome: I guess that's down to ochosi and bluesabre mostly | 22:15 |
| knome | elfy, i agree people need to take the possibility of blocking seriously, but otoh, i don't think that's the right way to go with it | 22:15 |
| knome | elfy, want to take an action item before next week to ask dev people if they want to do the a2 release, or shall i? | 22:16 |
| elfy | I'm happy to do that | 22:16 |
| knome | cheers | 22:16 |
| knome | #elfy to talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2 | 22:17 |
| Unit193 | Need #action | 22:17 |
| knome | lol | 22:17 |
| knome | brain not working | 22:17 |
| knome | #action elfy to talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2 | 22:18 |
| meetingology | ACTION: elfy to talk with dev people about releasing/not releasing a2 | 22:18 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic We have stickers for QA contributors! Next step? | 22:18 |
| Unit193 | See: http://pad.ubuntu.com/QAIncentive | 22:18 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: ^ | 22:18 |
| pleia2 | right-o | 22:18 |
| pleia2 | so now that I have a pile of these, we should do the thing | 22:18 |
| knome | i would say set it up for next milestone we're releasing | 22:18 |
| knome | or, simply target beta 1 | 22:19 |
| elfy | target B1 | 22:19 |
| knome | so we have enough time to inform people | 22:19 |
| pleia2 | will it only be testers for B1, or anyone who has tested up to and including B1? | 22:19 |
| elfy | pleia2: well - off the top of my head | 22:19 |
| elfy | and if we DO say that -team are excluded | 22:19 |
| elfy | then we are talking about PaulW2U | 22:20 |
| elfy | for the cycle up to now | 22:20 |
| knome | otoh... it's not work in vain | 22:21 |
| elfy | we really need to finalise who is counted | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | well, the point is to encourage other folks, so it won't just be Paul :) | 22:21 |
| knome | we can take those into account | 22:21 |
| knome | and if paul doesn't win, also send him the sticker the first time | 22:21 |
| knome | done | 22:21 |
| elfy | we can do that | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | we should have several "winners" | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | I have 20 of these things | 22:21 |
| knome | lol | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | at least 5 for the cycle I'd say | 22:22 |
| elfy | but we need to once it's going have finite times | 22:22 |
| knome | pleia2, the point is to do that for each milestone | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | so 3 for each then | 22:22 |
| knome | pleia2, so a1, a2, b1, b2, final are possible per cycle | 22:22 |
| elfy | eg - after b1 - the next is for the next month - and on | 22:22 |
| knome | oh, month | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | a1 is already gone | 22:22 |
| knome | i thought it was release, nvm :) | 22:22 |
| knome | pleia2, i'll tell you a secret... there will be another release cycle | 22:23 |
| pleia2 | I'm playing this cycle by cycle, not so far in the future | 22:23 |
| pleia2 | would be nice to give a sticker set to our QA lead and project lead too, off-band ;) | 22:23 |
| elfy | knome: there was - monthly, then milestones, then release - rinse repeat | 22:23 |
| knome | right, that works | 22:23 |
| knome | i was just misremembering | 22:23 |
| knome | and my head is full of snot | 22:23 |
| pleia2 | ew | 22:24 |
| knome | i'm sorry | 22:24 |
| knome | dead brain cells then if that's better | 22:24 |
| elfy | and the same for packages | 22:24 |
| knome | what if we simply made b1 the first target | 22:24 |
| knome | and see how it goes | 22:24 |
| elfy | wfm | 22:24 |
| ochosi | o/ | 22:24 |
| knome | i can still do those digital certificates | 22:24 |
| * ochosi reads backlog... | 22:24 | |
| knome | and the custom wallpaper for the release winner(s) | 22:25 |
| elfy | but we do need to do it monthly afterwards imo | 22:25 |
| pleia2 | I'll send along a hand-written thank you as well | 22:25 |
| knome | pleia2, ++ | 22:25 |
| elfy | milestones being seperately counted within the month | 22:25 |
| knome | elfy, that works for me, as long as we just get it started :) | 22:25 |
| elfy | yea ... | 22:25 |
| pleia2 | elfy: can you add a proposed schedule to the etherpad? | 22:25 |
| knome | or a new google cal :) | 22:26 |
| elfy | #action elfy Add proposed schedule to incentive pad | 22:26 |
| meetingology | ACTION: elfy Add proposed schedule to incentive pad | 22:26 |
| elfy | pleia2: yea - but not today :) | 22:26 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 22:26 |
| elfy | I think XPL and QA Lead should get t-shirt not stickers :p | 22:27 |
| ochosi | huhu | 22:27 |
| pleia2 | elfy: thanks, no rush :) once we have some dates, we can decide how many "winners" each one and prep the blog post | 22:27 |
| ochosi | ok, caught up nw | 22:27 |
| pleia2 | I only have one t-shirt and it's mine :D | 22:27 |
| pleia2 | we can get more, but have to buy them and shipping | 22:28 |
| knome | i have moolah | 22:28 |
| elfy | lol | 22:28 |
| elfy | really not serious :) | 22:28 |
| pleia2 | it's a nice t-shirt though, we should link it to our site now that I've confirmed | 22:28 |
| ochosi | yup | 22:28 |
| ochosi | sounds good | 22:28 |
| pleia2 | fits nice, feels nice | 22:28 |
| knome | tbh, sending a t-shirt for everybody who sticked along for a long enough time (tm) should get one | 22:28 |
| knome | *would be fair | 22:29 |
| ochosi | poor knome can't write/think anymore | 22:29 |
| knome | i don't need one if people think i just want one free myself | 22:29 |
| knome | :P | 22:29 |
| ochosi | get well again soon! :) | 22:29 |
| elfy | :) | 22:29 |
| knome | trying to.. | 22:29 |
| ochosi | yeah, actually it would be a nice gesture | 22:30 |
| ochosi | can we ask for donations for something like that? | 22:30 |
| * ochosi always brings up the uncomfortable donations topic | 22:30 | |
| knome | lol | 22:30 |
| knome | that's ok | 22:30 |
| knome | but seriously, we have that community fund | 22:30 |
| ochosi | yeah, but it's tiny | 22:30 |
| knome | it's been quite long and nothing has happened with that so far | 22:31 |
| knome | it's enough to send everyone a t-shirt | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | no objections from me | 22:31 |
| knome | well tbe i'll have to double-check that, but i'm pretty sure it's ok | 22:32 |
| ochosi | yeah, but after that it's over | 22:32 |
| ochosi | but yeah, in general i'm +1 on the idea | 22:32 |
| knome | my point is that we haven't used it so far either | 22:32 |
| knome | and it's a long time since | 22:32 |
| knome | great, meetinglogy.. | 22:32 |
| knome | +o | 22:32 |
| pleia2 | I'll use Canonical Community funding for sticker shipments, which reminds me - Kubuntu folks use that funding *a lot* for conferences, so if any of us want to attend something for Xubuntu, we should keep that in mind | 22:32 |
| elfy | lol | 22:32 |
| knome | pleia2, get everyone to one conf | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | #chair knome | 22:33 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: Unit193 knome | 22:33 |
| pleia2 | knome: that might be too much | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | knome: Only lost a little log, then. Nice. | 22:33 |
| pleia2 | unless some of us are going anyway | 22:33 |
| knome | pleia2, like you? ;) | 22:33 |
| pleia2 | usually me | 22:33 |
| knome | bluesabre is teh problem case | 22:33 |
| ochosi | pleia2: had i known, i had gone to fosdem... | 22:33 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: they sound out talk acceptences quite late, so I didn't know until I mentioned it here-ish :\ | 22:34 |
| knome | anyway | 22:34 |
| pleia2 | anyway, that's a tangent | 22:34 |
| pleia2 | sounds like we have a plan for stickers | 22:34 |
| knome | ochosi, how's the xfce bountysource stuff going? | 22:34 |
| Unit193 | knome: Perhaps that should go in AOB? | 22:35 |
| ochosi | quite good actually | 22:35 |
| ochosi | lemme quickly check the funds | 22:35 |
| knome | Unit193, maybe. | 22:36 |
| knome | ochosi, i was asking because i was wondering if that was a realistic target for our "own" money | 22:36 |
| ochosi | about 1000$ for the team | 22:36 |
| ochosi | and 350$ on bugs | 22:36 |
| ochosi | so the 1000$ can be spent by the team for various causes, incl conferences or hackatons i think | 22:37 |
| ochosi | or as regular bug bounties | 22:37 |
| ochosi | the 350$ are bound to specific bugs | 22:37 |
| pleia2 | nice | 22:37 |
| ochosi | so from my pov that was a success | 22:38 |
| knome | good | 22:38 |
| ochosi | it should be managed more actively though | 22:38 |
| ochosi | but that's a different story | 22:38 |
| knome | yep | 22:38 |
| Unit193 | #topic Announcements | 22:39 |
| ochosi | #info More gtk3.14 theming fixes are about to come to greybird and numix in the near future | 22:41 |
| ochosi | that's about it from my side | 22:41 |
| ochosi | the rest is playing catch-up with what happened or didn't over the holidays | 22:41 |
| Unit193 | The Calendar isn't loading properly for me, but there's a CC catch up coming up, IIRC. | 22:41 |
| elfy | 15th | 22:42 |
| knome | yup, 15th | 22:42 |
| knome | 17utc | 22:42 |
| Unit193 | #info Community council catch-up is on the 15th, at 17utc. | 22:43 |
| Unit193 | Cool, any more? | 22:43 |
| pleia2 | I'm all done | 22:43 |
| knome | i'm all done as well .P | 22:43 |
| elfy | same | 22:43 |
| Unit193 | So next up to schedule next meeting: Slickymaster! | 22:44 |
| Unit193 | #endmeeting | 22:44 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Jan 5 22:44:46 2015 UTC. | 22:44 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-01-05-22.00.moin.txt | 22:44 |
| elfy | thanks Unit193 | 22:44 |
| elfy | night all | 22:44 |
| knome | aaand we have a winner! ;) | 22:44 |
| ochosi | i'm heading to bed too | 22:45 |
| ochosi | night all! | 22:45 |
| knome | nighty | 22:45 |
| pleia2 | night folks | 22:45 |
| ochosi | will be around again on the 7th, tomorrow is a public holiday \o/ | 22:45 |
| ochosi | knome: and remember to get well again! | 22:45 |
| knome | heh | 22:45 |
| knome | i will | 22:45 |
| * knome snots and coughs for the effect | 22:46 | |
| Unit193 | Most sites when you login it redirects you to the page you were on, the Ubuntu wiki redirects you to the homepage... | 22:57 |
| pleia2 | my solution is to never log out | 22:58 |
| Unit193 | The other computer never logs out, this one uses non-persistent sessions. :P | 23:00 |
| Unit193 | knome: For not talking much, you sure did a lot. ;) | 23:01 |
| knome | Unit193, right? | 23:02 |
| knome | maybe it's fair to compare that to how much i usually talk .P | 23:02 |
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