=== rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === fabo_ is now known as fabo [07:55] Good morning. [09:01] hey ho [09:17] お早う [09:19] you're really learning japenese? :P [09:19] Instead of Spanish [09:19] いいえ [09:20] although I will say that spanish appears too useful [09:20] can't have me doing useful things now can I [09:21] TT [09:21] ^^ [09:22] define useful [09:22] also happy new year, everyone [09:23] Feliz Año :D [09:24] valorie: well, spanish has ~2.5 times the number of native speakers than Hindi [09:24] valorie: something one could use more than in the fancy situation one actually meets someone else who speaks japanese [09:24] I spent new year's with Albert this year [09:24] yah spanish is massive [09:24] so with English + Hindi + English [09:24] he's a native Catalan speaker though [09:24] I'll be able to speak to a vast majority of people [09:24] only learned spanish in school [09:25] yes, I wish I had spanish [09:25] about 1/4 of the US speaks it as a first or second language [09:25] Well, I'm sure I can manage with English in the US :P [09:25] in spite of all the anti-immigrant sentiment around these days [09:26] Riddell: ping [09:26] sitter: FWIW bank holiday in Spain, he might not be coming in [09:26] shadeslayer_: that's brave of you to say [09:26] sitter: hah :D [09:26] shadeslayer_: same here, he's holding kci hostage though [09:26] lots of Japanese around Puget Sound, but not a lot of native speakers any more [09:26] sitter: oh, 3 kings parade day ? :D [09:27] yep [09:27] well [09:27] They shoot candy out of canons today [09:27] 3 bottles of rum parade [09:27] heh [09:27] it's an austria thing [09:27] right [09:27] lol [09:27] in austria it's really just a drinking day [09:27] this is really the day for presents, [09:27] so ... every holiday [09:27] there's no particular celebration associated with it or anything [09:28] but they're all given [09:28] valorie: heh :D [09:28] true [09:29] gold, frankincense and mryhh and all that jazz [09:29] the good stuff [09:29] * sitter broke releaseme [09:30] shadeslayer_: I think you should adopt releaseme as a pet project, it suffers greatly from the fact that I wrote most of the code when I started out with ruby -.- [09:30] so basically, it'll be in the same state as it has been? [09:30] since I've just started out with ruby [09:31] no, because now I am around to write tests ^^ [09:31] :D [09:31] there's a bad design flaw somewhere though [09:31] tarme contains logic it should't [09:31] needs a factory somewhere ^^ [09:35] gah, shit's failing [09:35] ahh [09:35] what u do? [09:38] sitter: ecm was outdated [09:38] well [09:39] where? in staging? [09:39] eh, ninjas [09:39] what no, I'm talking about dci [09:39] lol [09:39] context! [09:39] :P [09:39] 00:10:28.999 dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: extra-cmake-modules (>= 1.6.0) [09:39] fun [09:40] tell me if everything builds then I'll send an angry mail to Riddell about holding kci hostage for no good reason :P [09:40] I have 37 failing jobs, retrying is going to take all day probably :/ [09:41] sitter: why is KCI hostage? [09:41] http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_pause_integration/ [09:41] nu job [09:41] see backlog from #kubuntu-ci yesterday [09:49] ah neato [09:51] sitter: why can't you just kill the job? :P [09:52] shadeslayer_: Riddell is responsible [09:52] I see [09:52] still seems a bit silly [09:52] when you can just kill it yourself [09:57] shadeslayer_: the point is that I don't know if it can be killed [09:57] so by killing it I can turn all of kci red [09:57] so yeah, not gonna do it [09:58] mmmh [10:13] in KDE is it possible to have widnow buttons and the menu in one line (window decoration) ? [10:15] nope [10:16] I usually nuke the menu in most of the apps I use anyway [10:17] don't need them menus [10:18] true, but how eos doing it in some apps is just cool [10:19] sitter: hola, what's up? [10:20] Riddell: kci still paused [10:20] is that intentional? [10:20] sitter: Riddell dh_install: usr/share/man/man1/preparetips5.1 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere [10:20] from kconfigwidgets [10:20] and if so can we get that fixed? [10:20] shadeslayer_: manpages are mangled to .gz which makes not-installed fail [10:20] sitter: I didn't touch it! [10:20] could also be CI refusing to install though [10:20] Riddell: exactly [10:21] you are supposed to unpause it [10:21] I didn't pause it! [10:21] you are the one doing initial upload though [10:21] mind putting that in not installed? [10:21] no one but you will know when it is good to unpause [10:21] shadeslayer_: I am not doing packaging today [10:22] besides [10:22] okay [10:22] not-installed should be fixed [10:22] alas, my shell parser failed and I did not understand a word of what the code said [10:22] it looks very hard to do without fixing the code to not be shit though [10:22] hmm [10:23] I possibly need to implement file locking [10:23] it's basically a long line of pipe [10:23] sitter: are file writes atomic in ruby? [10:23] shadeslayer_: what is an atomic file write? [10:23] sitter: if 2 writers open a file, they make sure they don't interfere with each other? [10:24] no, maybe, that's a platform thing really [10:24] so ultimatley it will probably depend on the file system [10:24] ah well, better to just flock it then [10:24] I think(tm) on linux if you open a file writable you are blocked until no one else has it open writable [10:25] might be that this is only on a per-process level [10:26] been a while since I looked at posix specs xD [10:28] sitter: so shall I kill the job at http://kci.pangea.pub/view/mgmt/job/mgmt_pause_integration/ ? [10:30] Riddell: if you are done, yes [10:54] Riddell: sitter does kpackage build on your CI? [10:56] apparently git doesn't contain the man page? [10:57] or translations [10:57] thus the red http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.6.0_vivid.html [11:00] well, it contains the man page clearly [11:01] usr/share/man/man1/kpackagetool [11:02] sitter: ^^ thoughts? kpackage git doesn't apparently install the man page 0.o [11:30] sitter: ping? [11:54] shadeslayer_: changed [11:55] Riddell: pong [11:58] sitter: just pinging about ci builds which you say will happen now magically [11:58] sitter: has unstable-daily moved from vivid to utopic? [11:58] unstable-daily always was utopic [11:58] we are not snapshotting vivid [11:58] where do the vivid packages come from? [11:58] sitter: changed what? [12:01] it changed [12:02] Riddell: for what where when context? [12:02] sitter: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages has vivid and utopic packages, where do the vivid ones come from if not through ustable-daily? [12:03] sitter: context? [12:06] shadeslayer_: manpage path changed [12:07] what is this? harald explains the meaning to life and everything? [12:07] Riddell: unstable -promotes> unstable-daily -promotes> unstable-weekly [12:08] Riddell: do you have time to do a bit of a plasma relasma release test run? [12:09] sitter: don't see the change on projects.kde.org or git.debian.org [12:09] I have a major refactoring to the project xml resolver that previously wasn't test covered so I cannot be sure it won't break something [12:12] sitter: changes to releaseme? [12:13] I hope it makes svn checkout faster? cos that would be the best [12:13] or that it puts the tars into a different directory than the releaeme script, that would be the best too [12:14] nope, makes frameworks releasing work [12:15] Riddell: the tar one is easy though, simply run it from a different directory? :P [12:16] oh really? [12:16] anyway sure how can I test it? [12:19] Riddell: simply run your scripty and check that everything looks semi-correct [12:19] most importantly that you get all tars you want [12:19] sitter: kio is broken [12:19] http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/kio_binary_unstable/9/console [12:19] *shrug* [12:20] missing a private symbol, I can fix that https://launchpadlibrarian.net/194151149/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.kio_5.6.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [12:22] cool [12:22] it's weird that c++filt can't actually filter that symbol === soee_ is now known as soee [12:35] where can i check QT 5.4 status for ubuntu ? [12:53] Hiyas all [12:53] hiho BluesKaj_ [12:54] hey soee === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [14:05] morning [14:07] hi sgclark, what are you up to this Epiphany? [14:10] working on my sok project, how is it going here? [14:13] what's the timetable for sok? [14:14] ah yes to Jan 31, 2015 [14:14] right [14:16] and I'm just working out what should go into Plasma 5.2 [14:17] nice :) [14:22] Hi Riddell sgclark , any timeline for plasma 5 alpha2 ? [14:24] BluesKaj: jan 22 for vivid alpha 2 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule [14:27] Riddell, does that include improvements for the plasma 5 desktop ? [14:28] um, I guess so, it's 1 month better [14:28] will probably have plasma 5.2 beta in it [14:43] ok Riddell , good news then , thanks === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [16:35] yofel: git-buildpackage-ppa continues to disappoint me, not only can it not find the .orig in .. it can't find it in apt-get source either [16:35] oh come back bzr-buildpackage all is forgiven! [16:37] oh the whining [16:38] it's like 5 lines of code that need writing [16:38] whats wrong [16:38] my epiphany is being ruined by having to manually move .orig files [16:39] where are the magic kings now? [16:39] it's not like you actually observe epiphany [16:39] being a quaker and all [16:39] says the heathen who didn't even come and watch the parade dance into town! [16:40] I was sick! And I watched it last year! [16:40] it was alright, candy being shot out of cannons was the best part [16:41] the number of adults with buckets to collect the sweeties was weird [16:41] children I expect but adults? [16:41] not really, I regret not taking one last year [16:41] but that was because I had no clue they were going to do that [16:41] Riddell: the .. thing isn't hard to fix, apt-get was a bzr feature really [16:41] this year I was sick [16:41] there's plenty sweeties in the office [16:41] nim got loads for christmas [16:42] mmmmm [16:42] oh d_ed I think there's an irn bru in the fridge for you as a christmas present from last year [16:42] cookies? [16:42] COOKIES! [16:43] no cookies but there is some shortbread [16:43] nom nom nom [16:43] which is even better and comes wrapped in tartan [16:43] oh man, I just remembered the freshly-baked danish bread at UDS-R [16:43] it was so awesome [17:11] you gave me one before I left [17:11] it was just you, me and Aleix [17:14] hmm I wonder who's it was then [17:14] oh well, spare one for tomorrow [18:50] a/part [18:50] doh [18:51] ;o [19:06] aww, come back rberg [19:25] * Riddell uploads kf5 5.6 to vivid [19:34] :O