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[07:54] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:36] <jubo2> I have an issue with Kubuntu14
[09:36] <jubo2> something / someone messed up the keyboard mapping
[09:36] <jubo2> I didn't touch a thing that should throw the mapping off
[09:37] <jubo2> Any help would be appreciated. Dänks, Dänks
[09:37] <lordievader> jubo2: Define "messed up the keyboard mapping"
[09:38] <jubo2> Alt-Gr + 2 jumps to another tab instead of drawing an '@' symbol
[09:38] <jubo2> hitting the minus sign gives a division symbol
[09:38] <jubo2> etc. etc.
[09:39] <jubo2> I better join irc on that machine if I'm going to get some help here
[09:40] <lordievader> jubo2: Seems like you are using another keyboard layout.
[09:40] <juboxi> where do I check and how do I correct lordievader _
[09:43] <lordievader> juboxi: Systemsettings -> Input Devices -> Keyboard model and Layout tab. Or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-layout" (IIRC).
[09:45] <juboxi> It says generic 101-key PC
[09:46] <lordievader> That is ok.
[09:52] <jubo2> lordievader: ahh.. I chose tab "Layouts" and then it showed the US mapping is on, I added fi-fi. I hope it works now
[09:52] <jubo2> Ouais.. Success.
[10:08] <maxxie> hi luser *)
[11:37] <JoWie> I have an intermitting problem wherein some applications are unable to display random font glyphs in their GUI until i reboot (14.10). Does anyone know of an existing issue that is related to that?
[11:37] <soee> might be related to desktop effects / gpu ?
[11:41] <JoWie> that would not suprise me. I have one of those nvidia optimus laptops
[11:42] <JoWie> it only happends like once a week so it is difficult to diagnose
[12:17] <JoWie> oh a kwin crash solved it for now
[12:21] <soee_> JoWie: all works fine on optimus laptop for me
[12:22] <soee_> and im on nvidia 346 drivers but also older and new beta worked pretty nice
[12:22] <JoWie> yea i do not have any other issues with the gpu too
[12:22] <JoWie> i can even play left 4 dead etc
[12:25] <JoWie> this is one of the first optimus laptops though
[12:28] <JoWie> anyway i'll see if restarting kwin helps again the next time
[12:53] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:08] <BluesKaj_> !repository
[16:59] <ALS-IT-NET-PC> I go home.......hurra......hurra.......!!!!!!
[17:59] <antonio___> Hi. I have problems with file associations. Changing .jpg, .gif, .png to be opened with Gwenview has no effect. Closing file associations dialog and opening again, Gwenview is still the second preferred aplication, and Gimp always the first one. Curiously, the change is accepted for other applicatios, like ImageMagic or web browser. Any idea?
[18:00] <antonio___> Using Kubuntu 14.10.
[19:32] <Walex> antonio___: there is more than one place where file associations are defined... look also at what the commands that being with 'xdg-...' are saying
[19:33] <Walex> antonio___: also try to say explicitly: 'kbuildsyscoca4 --noincremental'
[19:52] <antonio___> Walex: Still the same. Thanks.
[19:59] <Walex> antonio___: you could try to logout and login again to clear some things
[20:01] <Walex> antonio___: try: xdg-mime query default image/jpeg
[21:46] <JunkHunk> how do I randomize wellcome sound?
[21:59] <Guest62572> hi, making up my mind whether KDE or GNOME were for me I chose KDE for my next OS. Am I right supposing the core doesn't differ much between different debian-based distros so that I'm going to find guides and support for Kubuntu as easily as I would for Ubuntu or similar distros?
[22:00] <Guest62572> also, kubuntu 14.04 or 14.10? What's the real difference?
[22:01] <Guest62572> and, is this the right community for people who are relatively new to unix systems in the first place? Or is KDE a more advanced-users choice?
[22:02] <gogoo> what time of the day should I consider this channel as active? I live in Europe
[22:04] <bprompt> gogoo: well.... there are few folks
[22:04] <gogoo> there are lots of users, maybe just away because of time zones..?
[22:05] <bprompt> gogoo:  but your assumption is correct, support for ubuntu at the linux core functions is pretty much the same as for any other variation, and you'd find many folks at #ubuntu as well, no necessarily all of them running the gnome or unity version either
[22:06] <gogoo> thank you
[22:06] <bprompt> gogoo:   the only difference between the kde or gnome or unity versions, is the desktop and window managers pretty much, for example, I run kubuntu, but my window manager is LXDE, but I use many kde apps, thus
[22:07] <gogoo> kde apps over lxde? Is it possible?
[22:07] <bprompt> gogoo:    well... lxde has mostly a desktop and window manager, no apps per se, since is not a suite
[22:08] <bprompt> ohh... you meant    running kde apps while using lxde window manager?  sure, that's exactly what I do
[22:08] <gogoo> I need to understand the difference between all these things (desktop environment, windows manager, file manager, suite etc)
[22:08] <gogoo> what do you advise between 14.04 and 14.10 Plasma?
[22:08] <bprompt> lxde overhead is lighter, and thus quicker than kwin(kde default window manager), kwin is quite nice, has a great composite manager... but most of what it does, I don't use it as much
[22:09] <gogoo> I'll add "composite manager" to the list "to-learn"
[22:10] <gogoo> maybe when I have set up everything
[22:10] <gogoo> also, do you think I could have different KDE layouts to pick at login window? One for when I work, one for when I study, one for general everyday use etc...
[22:11] <bprompt> havent' checked 14.10, used 14.04 for a bit... didn't notice a great difference from my 12.04 install.....I figure there were great differences between kde 4.8.5   and kde 4.13  in  14.04.... I didn't see much.... so.. in my case I run 12.04 since I have some apps that 14.04 doesn't....other than that, I'd say 14.04 since is an LTS, whilst 14.10 isn't
[22:11] <gogoo> ok perfect
[22:11] <gogoo> this is going to be my steady OS, hopefully :D
[22:12] <bprompt> gogoo:    composite manager is the app than handles fancy color manipulations, like translucent windows or 3D distortions
[22:12] <gogoo> oh like Compiz?
[22:12] <bprompt> yeap
[22:13] <gogoo> I understand
[22:13] <gogoo> sorry if I keep asking, but is any CSS handled by KDE? I used to be a webdesigner and I think editing some CSS would be nice
[22:14] <bprompt> is any css handled by kde?  what do you mean?
[22:14] <bprompt> kde is not an editor per se or IDE =)
[22:14] <gogoo> is there any css coded into KDE somewhere so that I can easily edit with a text editor?
[22:15] <bprompt> gogoo:    why would you want to do that again?
[22:15] <gogoo> just for fun actually ;)
[22:15] <bprompt> hehe
[22:16] <bprompt> haven't found much myself.... like many other OS, you'd find many configuration files using xml
[22:16] <gogoo> I'll have to study XML
[22:16] <gogoo> then
[22:16] <gogoo> ;)
[22:16] <gogoo> thank you for your help
[22:16] <bprompt> I've found that for example   gtk-3  themes, as  opposed to gtk-2, gtk-3 themes do rely on css markup for the theming
[22:17] <gogoo> that's what I had heard, so I was asking
[22:17] <bprompt> hmm
[22:17] <gogoo> I'll look into it
[22:17] <bprompt> gogoo:   I assume you know html?
[22:23] <gogoo> yes sorry, I had to leave for a while
[22:23] <gogoo> yes I do
[22:24] <gogoo> but I haven't looked into XML yet
[22:24] <bprompt> well
[22:25] <bprompt> if you know html, you know xml, since html is sorta like a sibling,  while html has some predefined tags or elements, in xml all bets are off, you can make it up as you want, so is pretty much just a tag soup
[22:26] <gogoo> sounds very handy for developing configuration files indeed
[22:26] <bprompt> yeap
[22:26] <gogoo> that is interesting
[22:27] <bprompt> something like    <pen-color> #00b </pen-color>      <windowHeight>800</windowHeight>  ...
[22:27] <gogoo> ok, intuitive and essential. The way to go in my opinion
[22:28] <gogoo> I'm so excited at the moment :)
[22:29] <bprompt> format has caught on, since it's very versatile..... if you ever noticed microsoft office latest file formats after say offce 2007 I think... like a word is not a doc is a .docx   an excel file is not an .xls is an .xlsx   <--- the extra "x" is for xml bits included in the format
[22:30] <gogoo> I had no idea
[22:30] <bprompt> the formats are sorta like a zipped file, with a bundle of files, some binary and some plain text in xml
[22:31] <bprompt> if you ever bothered looking into a docx or xlsx
[22:31] <gogoo> actually no, because it was "windows-stuff" and didn't care
[22:31] <gogoo> but now I'm glad to know it
[23:13] <rotzbub> since 1 hour my networkmanager wont connect to the internet via usb modem anymore. i push connect, but nothing happens, tried it with 2 modems. (14.10) , this happened out of the blue, any idea where i can search for errors?
[23:19] <rotzbub> ah forget it. fixed it... some strange roaming error
[23:21] <bprompt> I was about to say, j/k  =)