| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 06:43 |
|---|---|---|
| pitti | Good morning | 06:44 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, wie gehts? | 06:44 |
| pitti | seb128: whoa, you are early! | 06:44 |
| pitti | seb128: so-so, got a cold :/ | 06:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, :-( | 06:46 |
| larsu | morning! | 06:46 |
| larsu | pitti: gute besserung! | 06:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, early yeah, trying to go back to "normal office hours" ;-) | 06:47 |
| pitti | larsu: guten Morgen, danke! | 06:47 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:20 |
| seb128 | oh, un didrocks | 07:20 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:20 |
| seb128 | lut ;-) | 07:21 |
| darkxst | hey seb128 pitti didrocks larsu | 07:42 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 07:42 |
| larsu | hi darkxst | 07:43 |
| darkxst | seb128, can you approve mutter in NEW? | 07:43 |
| didrocks | evening darkxst :) | 07:44 |
| seb128 | darkxst, I can have a look in a bit | 07:45 |
| seb128 | have some issues with launchpad atm | 07:46 |
| darkxst | seb128, thanks, its just the usual soname bump | 07:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, can you access the queue/new it? | 07:46 |
| * seb128 wonders what's going on there | 07:46 | |
| darkxst | also need geoclue-2.0 and geocode-glib promoted for g-s-d | 07:46 |
| darkxst | if you can do that ? | 07:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: what can't you access at? the page? | 07:48 |
| didrocks | I can got it loaded | 07:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it spins and doesn't load for me | 07:48 |
| seb128 | but I've some other issues so maybe a routing/isp issue | 07:49 |
| didrocks | ok, will new them | 07:49 |
| seb128 | thanks | 07:49 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 07:49 |
| didrocks | interesting soname, 0 as unstable but with a, b, c, d… | 07:49 |
| didrocks | darkxst: what do you mean about geoclue and geocode glib promotion? | 07:50 |
| didrocks | needs to be in main for newer g-s-d? | 07:51 |
| pitti | hey darkxst, how are you? | 07:51 |
| darkxst | didrocks, that is a debian thing, don't ask me about it | 07:52 |
| darkxst | didrocks, yes main, see bug 1388294 | 07:52 |
| ubot5 | bug 1388294 in geocode-glib (Ubuntu) "[MIR] geoclue-2.0" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1388294 | 07:52 |
| darkxst | pitti, struggling with the heat again.. | 07:54 |
| pitti | I'm taking some of it! | 07:54 |
| darkxst | sure, please do ;) | 07:54 |
| didrocks | darkxst: done and done | 07:55 |
| darkxst | didrocks, thanks! | 07:56 |
| didrocks | yw | 07:56 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 08:05 |
| desrt | good morning :D | 08:30 |
| didrocks | good <???> desrt :) | 08:31 |
| desrt | history is going to be made today! (hopefully) | 08:31 |
| didrocks | kdbus committed to the kernel? :) | 08:32 |
| desrt | in three hours a stage 1 from an actual mission will attempt to land on a solid platform | 08:33 |
| desrt | xlander-style | 08:33 |
| larsu | oh hi desrt | 08:38 |
| larsu | up {early,late}? | 08:38 |
| desrt | not sure | 08:38 |
| desrt | was sleeping and had a dream about thread safety | 08:38 |
| desrt | needed to write some stuff down | 08:38 |
| darkxst | desrt SpaceX at it again? | 08:39 |
| darkxst | I havent had time to follow their doings recently, but seems they are the only ones that would even try that | 08:41 |
| desrt | darkxst: ya | 08:41 |
| desrt | launch is at 6:30am EST | 08:41 |
| mlankhorst | morning | 08:42 |
| didrocks | hey mlankhorst | 08:43 |
| mlankhorst | hey | 08:44 |
| mlankhorst | didrocks: you're archive admin right? can you drop all lts-utopic packages in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=0 | 08:46 |
| mlankhorst | I need to re-upload for arch: all | 08:46 |
| mlankhorst | instead of i386/amd64 only | 08:46 |
| didrocks | mlankhorst: sure, doing | 08:49 |
| didrocks | *flushed* | 08:50 |
| willcooke | morning | 08:55 |
| desrt | willcooke: morning | 08:56 |
| willcooke | ?!? | 08:56 |
| willcooke | late or early? | 08:56 |
| desrt | both :) | 08:56 |
| willcooke | hehe | 08:56 |
| desrt | had some ideas that i wanted to hack on | 08:58 |
| desrt | and i kinda wanted to catch the real-life xlander game | 08:58 |
| seb128 | hey desrt willcooke | 08:59 |
| desrt | seb128: good morning | 08:59 |
| willcooke | desrt, the space X thing? | 08:59 |
| willcooke | hey seb128 | 08:59 |
| desrt | willcooke: ya. pretty exciting. | 08:59 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 09:00 |
| desrt | i like when success is a 50/50 thing :) | 09:00 |
| willcooke | desrt, it sounds like an impossible goal to me :) Targeting a 100m wide landing area which is bobbing up and down in the sea :) | 09:01 |
| willcooke | morning didrocks | 09:02 |
| desrt | i was super-psyched when they landed the last mars rover | 09:02 |
| desrt | that seemed impossible to me too | 09:03 |
| willcooke | :) | 09:03 |
| Laney | ahoy | 09:03 |
| desrt | i mean seriously... a rocket-powered hovercraft that gingerly lowers the rover to the surface on a string, cuts it loose and then flys off into the distance? | 09:03 |
| desrt | what is this? a movie? | 09:03 |
| willcooke | ha | 09:03 |
| willcooke | morning Laney | 09:03 |
| desrt | Laney: hey there | 09:03 |
| desrt | Laney: i'm a debian user now :D | 09:04 |
| Laney | moving closer! | 09:04 |
| desrt | i also upgraded my schroot technology level at least twice since we last spoke :) | 09:04 |
| * desrt now union-mounts squashfs images stored in lvm with a tmpfs overlay | 09:05 | |
| Laney | haha | 09:05 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 09:05 |
| desrt | it's speedy =) | 09:05 |
| Laney | I used to use the LVM snapshot support | 09:06 |
| Laney | it's cool stuff | 09:06 |
| desrt | i'm worried about too much ssd traffic with the amount of abuse i throw at these things | 09:07 |
| seb128 | howdy Laney | 09:07 |
| desrt | ie: constant installs of 100s of packages, only to blow it all away again moments later | 09:07 |
| desrt | also: fsync sucks | 09:07 |
| Laney | don't you do that in ram? | 09:07 |
| desrt | and eatmydata is so obnoxiously impure | 09:07 |
| desrt | Laney: exactly | 09:07 |
| desrt | Laney: that's why i use tmpfs instead of lvm snapshots | 09:08 |
| Laney | ah | 09:08 |
| desrt | i gotta tell you, i sure appreciate our ubuntu0 versioning thing | 09:09 |
| desrt | makes it real nice to share a /var/cache/apt/archives between debian and ubuntu installs | 09:10 |
| Laney | assuming the same binary packages work on both | 09:11 |
| desrt | well, it's no trouble, since the ubuntu ones have the 'ubuntu' in the name | 09:12 |
| desrt | and different arches stay out of each others way nicely as well | 09:12 |
| Laney | only if we've modified them | 09:12 |
| Laney | unmodified ones are copied over and rebuilt here | 09:12 |
| desrt | ah. that's interesting. | 09:12 |
| desrt | i didn't run into any trouble.... yet :) | 09:13 |
| didrocks | right, you don't have the untouched debian packages rebuilt with the ubuntu toolset with this | 09:13 |
| didrocks | well, wait to start some gcc C++11 extensions with ABI incompatbility :) | 09:13 |
| Laney | I have local mirrors on the network here for fast package access | 09:13 |
| desrt | is there some sort of caching proxy i can run on my machine that uses /var/cache/apt/archives as a storage location? | 09:15 |
| * desrt would prefer not to get into mirroring everything | 09:15 | |
| Laney | you might want to look into apt-cacher-ng | 09:15 |
| Laney | that's an apt proxy | 09:16 |
| desrt | bleh | 09:17 |
| desrt | i sorta liked the bindmount approach since it meant that the archives (a) didn't have more than one copy on my machine and (b) didn't take up tmpfs space | 09:17 |
| willcooke | mlankhorst, I'v got a meeting which clashes with our 1:1, so I'll ping you later on if that's ok | 09:18 |
| willcooke | maybe 30 mins later that planned | 09:18 |
| Laney | you could disable the cache :) | 09:19 |
| desrt | seems that i can configure apt to use a different cache dir -- maybe i'll just do that per-distro | 09:19 |
| desrt | zomg. this is great | 09:20 |
| desrt | i can save the pkgcache this way as well | 09:20 |
| mlankhorst | sure | 09:21 |
| seb128 | willcooke, did you decide to skip the meeting at the end or to do it anyway? I don't think I saw a reply to my comment here yesterday when you asked... either way sending a team meeting/nomeeting email would be good ;-) | 09:22 |
| willcooke | seb128, good call - done | 09:23 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thanks | 09:23 |
| seb128 | willcooke, so you decided to have one, good ;-) | 09:23 |
| willcooke | seb128, I've got a few things to talk to you about. I've got a meeting now, but maybe before lunch? Quick hangout ok? | 09:24 |
| seb128 | willcooke, sure | 09:24 |
| willcooke | thx | 09:24 |
| seb128 | yw! | 09:24 |
| willcooke | hi tammy - have you got a hangout link yet? | 09:26 |
| tammy | willcooke, sorry... it takes use some time to recall the memories how to setup... (after long holidays...) | 09:27 |
| tammy | willcooke, here it is https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcZvBiG2p2OJ9KQP29lEqQTHG-VJ0xa1LGxwbOVcqfk-OEpXg?authuser=0&hl=en | 09:27 |
| willcooke | thanks tammy :) | 09:29 |
| tammy | willcooke, we can see your screen now | 09:33 |
| duflu | desrt: You really online still? | 09:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: if you open the dash and type "nautilus", is the icon enormous for you as well? | 09:45 |
| desrt | duflu: still? | 09:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes, it's one of the know issue with the new gtk | 09:46 |
| didrocks | ok | 09:46 |
| duflu | desrt: Or in some timezone where it's less surprising... | 09:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, see http://pad.ubuntu.com/gtk-update-v the point 5 in the first section | 09:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well, that lists vim, but same issue | 09:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, if you look to the dash you can see there are a bunch of those | 09:47 |
| duflu | desrt: Better late than never... is there any other workaround we can do outside of glib that's less ugly than this?... https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/mir/fix-1401488/+merge/245443 | 09:47 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ what was the outcome of that discussion? unity needs to force the icon size? | 09:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: I only have nautilus for now, but I guess I don't use that many GNOMy apps | 09:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, weird, you should have things like "appareance" from unity-control-center | 09:48 |
| seb128 | or update-manager | 09:49 |
| desrt | duflu: looks quite reasonable in fact :) | 09:49 |
| duflu | desrt: Thanks but doesn't feel it. Did I like to the right bug? | 09:49 |
| duflu | The right upstream bug | 09:49 |
| desrt | duflu: but uh.. g_main_context_invoke() is a thing | 09:50 |
| duflu | -like +link | 09:50 |
| duflu | Must be EOD | 09:50 |
| desrt | duflu: maybe. still need to look at that. | 09:50 |
| larsu | seb128: yes, unity should force icons to be of the size it wants them to be | 09:50 |
| seb128 | larsu, do you know if there is a bug open about that? | 09:50 |
| larsu | seb128: also, we should include correctly-sized icons in our theme, so that we don't get blurry icons ;) | 09:50 |
| larsu | seb128: Trevinho said he'll look into it. I don't know about a bug | 09:51 |
| seb128 | larsu, is that the theme job to include icons for e.g update-manager? | 09:51 |
| desrt | duflu: i think this is not the same bug... | 09:51 |
| duflu | desrt: Perhaps but it started to sound the same in your comments upstream | 09:51 |
| duflu | Interesting that invoke function | 09:51 |
| duflu | Oh well | 09:51 |
| larsu | seb128: yes | 09:51 |
| seb128 | larsu, hum, ok, I though apps were supposed to ship their own icons | 09:52 |
| desrt | duflu: ya.. it's a handy one | 09:52 |
| desrt | duflu: ya.. this is really not the same issue | 09:52 |
| duflu | desrt: Excellent. We all want more upstream glib bugs | 09:52 |
| larsu | seb128: hm, maybe you're right - I thought update-manager is one of the apps that has a themed icons | 09:53 |
| desrt | duflu: the upstream issue can only happen if you call g_main_context_unref() at the same time as g_source_unref() | 09:53 |
| duflu | desrt: OK, different issue... I might test out your suggested simpler fix | 09:54 |
| desrt | duflu: your bug will be easy to fix | 09:54 |
| duflu | Woo, I win | 09:54 |
| desrt | i just need to increase the refcount of the source while running the check/prepare funcs | 09:54 |
| duflu | something | 09:54 |
| desrt | we already do it while dispatching | 09:54 |
| duflu | desrt: I was going to do exactly that but your comments in the upstream bug resonated so I didn't try | 09:55 |
| desrt | the upstream issue is substantially more complicated | 09:55 |
| duflu | desrt: Oh, also in theory the iterator holds a reference | 09:55 |
| desrt | the gist is that once attached to a context, a source uses the context's lock for locking | 09:55 |
| desrt | which is a problem if the context is being finalized at the same time | 09:55 |
| duflu | desrt: I think the problem might go deeper. Those unlocked callbacks in theory should be ref'd by the iterator of the loop they're in | 09:56 |
| desrt | that's true. | 09:56 |
| duflu | The iterator should already be ref'ing the source | 09:56 |
| desrt | so it seems that the problem is not as you describe | 09:56 |
| duflu | desrt: Yes, kind of. And then it was holidays again so I stopped thinking about it | 09:57 |
| * duflu goes back to reproducing the bug | 09:57 | |
| desrt | duflu: i'd love to see a small testcase that triggers the issue | 09:57 |
| seb128 | larsu, what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1407192 ? did you discuss it with Trevinho? | 09:57 |
| desrt | otherwise... | 09:57 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1407192 in unity (Ubuntu) "firefox icon frequently replaced by placeholder" [High,Confirmed] | 09:57 |
| desrt | <- this is my suspicious face | 09:57 |
| duflu | desrt: It's not small :( I can give you valgrind error output though | 09:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks, larsu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1404730 is the icon one | 09:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1404730 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash: some icons are scaled incorrectly" [High,Triaged] | 09:58 |
| desrt | duflu: could it be something like your source finalize function making an assumption about what thread it runs in? | 09:59 |
| seb128 | bregma, hey, not sure how you track work, but can you make sure that https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1404730 is on a list where it gets fixed for vivid? | 09:59 |
| desrt | and it being upset if it gets run in the thread that calls the unref? | 09:59 |
| duflu | desrt: Not sure. It's alf's code -- I'm still learning it | 09:59 |
| desrt | duflu: i'd love to see a testcase :) | 10:00 |
| duflu | Me too | 10:00 |
| duflu | One that takes less human effort | 10:00 |
| desrt | fwiw, i'm fixing yet another thread issue at the moment in file monitors... | 10:00 |
| seb128 | bregma, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1407192 as well | 10:00 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1407192 in unity (Ubuntu) "firefox icon frequently replaced by placeholder" [High,Confirmed] | 10:00 |
| duflu | Alright, reproducing the bug again will suck me in for the whole evening. I must resist for today... | 10:19 |
| seb128 | lunch, bbiab | 10:50 |
| willcooke | seb128, anyone - whats the deal with Gnome Sound Recorder? | 11:03 |
| willcooke | This page suggests it "doesnt work": https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/gnome-media/ | 11:03 |
| willcooke | The guys in OEM are asking if we can include a simple sound recorder by default | 11:04 |
| willcooke | I think Audacity is probably a bit too heavy weight. | 11:04 |
| willcooke | They are looking for something more akin to Windows Sound Recorder | 11:04 |
| willcooke | If anyone has a suggestion for something which might meet their need, let me know | 11:05 |
| Laney | gnome-sound-recorder is the new gnome one | 11:08 |
| Trevinho | seb128, larsu: it's national holiday today here, I'll check those tomorrow. | 11:10 |
| Laney | bit buggy but I guess it'll be okay with a little work | 11:11 |
| Laney | bleh, it's gjs | 11:12 |
| didrocks | don't be too sad about being gjs :p | 11:14 |
| larsu | Trevinho: k, thanks. Enjoy! | 11:15 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| pitti | seb128, Saviq: we've been dragging bug 1223401 for far too long; I investigated what gets broken and what gets fixed by getting back to the upstream API | 12:03 |
| ubot5 | bug 1223401 in libnotify (Ubuntu) "[0.7.6] the add_action api changed creating issues for clients" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1223401 | 12:03 |
| pitti | so we only need to fix that test in unity8 (which is trivial and will be compatible with both APIs) | 12:04 |
| pitti | I'll file an MP | 12:04 |
| Saviq | pitti, sure, fine with me | 12:04 |
| willcooke | bah. The rain waits until lunchtime. | 12:09 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, enjoy the vac day! ;-) | 12:22 |
| pitti | Saviq: ok, done: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/unity8/notify-api-fix/+merge/245643 | 12:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, that still sounds wrong to me for the same reason I gave by then | 12:23 |
| pitti | seb128: how is it wrong? | 12:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, if the abi change in an incompatible way the soname should change | 12:23 |
| pitti | seb128: well, you were never *supposed* to specify a free_func in Python | 12:23 |
| seb128 | or at least the binary package name | 12:23 |
| pitti | using an obviously bogus argument which could never have worked properly isn't exactly a feature? | 12:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, doesn't matter if the reasons are good or not, we can't change function signatures in an incompatible way without a proper transition | 12:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, it makes "working" code hit an exception | 12:24 |
| pitti | seb128: well, but we never had a transition, and our patch breaks two other packages | 12:24 |
| pitti | so I'd rather fix it in the one bad spot than in the other two good ones | 12:25 |
| pitti | and the longer we keep it, the more of these incompatibilities we'll get | 12:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, the issue is that you don't know what bad/good spot are out there in e.g custom scripts | 12:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, I'm not saying we should fix it, but we should rename the binary package so the transition is properly handled by depends resolution | 12:25 |
| seb128 | we shouldn't* | 12:25 |
| pitti | seb128: depends resolution doesn't apply to third-party scripts | 12:26 |
| seb128 | well, that's the best we can do | 12:26 |
| seb128 | out of not changing the abi | 12:26 |
| pitti | and "from gir import Notify" always just uses the latest API by default | 12:26 |
| pitti | so even bumping it wouldn't automagically hep | 12:26 |
| pitti | "help" | 12:26 |
| seb128 | well it would help to resolve partial upgrades and listing rdepends that didn't update their abi | 12:27 |
| seb128 | or rather how they use the function | 12:27 |
| seb128 | we would know that things depending on <new_name> got fixed/adapted | 12:27 |
| seb128 | and things depending on the old name have an issue/needs to be looked at | 12:27 |
| seb128 | no? | 12:27 |
| pitti | well, I went over all rdepends | 12:27 |
| seb128 | the archive rdepends | 12:27 |
| seb128 | not ppa, 3rd party, etc | 12:27 |
| seb128 | you could use the same argument to not rename libraries on soname changes | 12:28 |
| seb128 | "I handled the rdepends, no need to rename" | 12:28 |
| pitti | well, for libraries there's actually a physical change in the binary package | 12:28 |
| pitti | which isn't true for gir/python, they aren't versioned in the samw way | 12:28 |
| seb128 | well in that case it's a physical change in the function sig | 12:28 |
| seb128 | code that used to run hit an exception | 12:28 |
| seb128 | anyway I made my point and I don't care enough to argue over that | 12:29 |
| pitti | well, the fun thing is that these days the exception is entirely different from what we originally had in 2013 when we introduced the reversion | 12:29 |
| seb128 | if you just want to go ahead by dealing only with our own rdepends fine with me | 12:29 |
| pitti | in 2013 we didn't have the "magic" user_data handling yet | 12:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm probably just overcautious/strict with compat, I guess that seeing the number of rdepends dealing with it without rename is fine | 12:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's likely going to bite some users with their script, but oh well | 12:32 |
| pitti | seb128: nah, I don't think so | 12:32 |
| pitti | seb128: it's already a very exceptional corner case to specify a free_func argument (or two pieces of user_data) in the first place | 12:32 |
| seb128 | well, reality is that some of our tests did that | 12:32 |
| seb128 | so there is a non null chance that somebody else out there did that as well | 12:33 |
| pitti | sure | 12:33 |
| pitti | but oh well, dist-upgrade -- we break third-party stuff all the time | 12:33 |
| seb128 | right, I was going to say | 12:33 |
| seb128 | I wish that statement was wrong | 12:33 |
| seb128 | but reality is that we are far from perfect | 12:33 |
| seb128 | and that small case is not likely to make a real difference | 12:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, tldr, go for the change ;-) | 12:34 |
| pitti | seb128: heh, ok; I think Saviq is an appropriate reviewer for that MP? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 12:34 |
| Saviq | pitti, yup, will do | 12:39 |
| pitti | Saviq: thanks | 12:39 |
| seb128 | Saviq, pitti, we should also make sure we land unity8 and tghe libnotify update together then | 12:40 |
| Saviq | seb128, didn't pitti describe that as long as unity8 gets in first, it'll be fine? | 12:41 |
| seb128 | oh, right | 12:41 |
| seb128 | all good then ;-) | 12:41 |
| pitti | right, it's backwards compatible | 12:42 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, hey, what's the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1386170 ? | 13:18 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1386170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Utopic) "Libreoffice startup center shortcut broken" [Medium,New] | 13:18 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| Sweet5hark | seb128: should be fixed by http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git/commit/?h=ubuntu-utopic-4.3&id=d816d3dfe756ac975e056d053d17ee384023e416 and http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git/commit/?h=ubuntu-utopic-4.3&id=f3087d6e35db84e19855b47015251d1619f758e5 in the ppa, not SRUed yet. | 13:36 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: any comment on bug 1404244 ? It uses client side decorations... | 13:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1404244 in baobab (Ubuntu) "Sync baobab 3.14.1-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404244 | 13:38 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: note that there is feedback pending still https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1386170/comments/13 -- although we might go forward without that after a month ... | 13:38 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1386170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Utopic) "Libreoffice startup center shortcut broken" [Medium,New] | 13:38 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, I would say "require to use the wm decoration under Unity before upload" | 13:47 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: ok, that's what I was thinking, just wanted to make sure, thanks | 13:47 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, ok, can you ping again to the get the feedback otherwise? that is in the sponsoring queue for a while, I wonder if we should just un-subscribe sponsors since it seems you are tracking it anyway? | 13:47 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, yw! | 13:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, that eog upload, I though the libgrip stuff could be dropped with new gtk gestures? | 13:48 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: hmmm, you mean https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=libreoffice ? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, no, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 13:52 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: ah, ok. | 13:54 |
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| Sweet5hark | seb128: tried to unsubscribe sponsors, but seem to lack perms on lp? see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1386170/comments/14 | 14:02 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1386170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Utopic) "Libreoffice startup center shortcut broken" [Medium,New] | 14:02 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, did it for you | 14:03 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: oh and: Happy new year! ;) | 14:03 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: thx alot | 14:03 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, danke, happy new year to you as well! | 14:03 |
| Laney | seb128: hopefully but I didn't check yet | 14:22 |
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| === CardinalFang is now known as qengho | ||
| Sweet5hark1 | seb128: so dariusz commented, we should not block the sru ... | 14:51 |
| willcooke | folks (seb128) - got to do the school run. I should be back by half past, but if not, please hold for a couple of mins. | 15:15 |
| popey | didrocks: just updated ubuntu-make... man page says {ide,games,go,android} (note games, plural) your blog post says "game" | 15:21 |
| FJKong_ | happy new year | 15:24 |
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| didrocks | popey: actually, the man page is right and of course, my blog post is wrong, fixing! thanks :) | 15:24 |
| popey | np | 15:24 |
| popey | good to see someone reads your blog posts, huh? ☻ | 15:25 |
| didrocks | popey: yeah, it was *you* all that time along! | 15:25 |
| didrocks | seb128: on the "firefox looses its launcher icon under unity", did we need more debug info? (as it's an italian holidays, I don't ping Marco ;)) | 15:26 |
| didrocks | just telling that because it's the case here for instance | 15:26 |
| willcooke | back | 15:31 |
| desrt | m is for meeting | 15:31 |
| desrt | and that's good enough for me :D | 15:31 |
| willcooke | Roll call: attente_, desrt, didrocks, FJKong_, happyaron, Laney, larsu, mlankhorst, qengho, seb128, Sweet5hark1, tkamppeter, | 15:31 |
| didrocks | hey | 15:32 |
| seb128 | _o/ | 15:32 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Weekly Meeting 2015-01-06 | 15:32 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jan 6 15:32:10 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:32 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:32 |
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| * willcooke got the year right :) | 15:32 | |
| willcooke | Sorry for the delay folks | 15:32 |
| mlankhorst | hey | 15:32 |
| desrt | welcome to 2016! | 15:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I don't think so, it was on the gtk update epad as well, likely a bamf/gtk issue | 15:32 |
| willcooke | Ok, so there probably wont be a whole lot of updates from the last two weeks, but as we discussed yesterday | 15:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it happens consistently on firefox/tb after running/closing them once | 15:32 |
| willcooke | we can flesh out what's happening in the next week | 15:33 |
| * seb128 shuts up for meeting ;-) | 15:33 | |
| willcooke | :D | 15:33 |
| willcooke | We shouldnt be too long | 15:33 |
| willcooke | #topic attente_ | 15:33 |
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| willcooke | attente_, Hey! Any thoughts on what the plan of action is for the next week? | 15:33 |
| attente_ | hi, mousing over a parent menu still doesn't work with the gtk-mir backend | 15:34 |
| attente_ | but i'm not sure if it's worth fixing or if we should wait for more mir support because it might get fixed on that side | 15:34 |
| willcooke | tricky one | 15:35 |
| willcooke | lets see how it goes - it's not too long until the sprint | 15:35 |
| desrt | attente_: is there another semi-obvious way to close the menu and go back to the parent? | 15:35 |
| willcooke | and we can grind some of these out there | 15:35 |
| desrt | ie: is the user completely stuck and has to start over again, or is there something else they can do? | 15:35 |
| attente_ | desrt: yeah, it's fine to just click outside or press escape | 15:36 |
| desrt | (keynav maybe?) | 15:36 |
| willcooke | that sounds ok | 15:37 |
| desrt | annoying, but workable | 15:37 |
| willcooke | yah | 15:37 |
| willcooke | ok, well lets take some more deep conversations out of the meeting | 15:37 |
| willcooke | anything else before we move on attente_ ? | 15:38 |
| attente_ | that's all | 15:38 |
| willcooke | cool, thanks | 15:38 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 15:38 |
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| tkamppeter | willcooke, spring? when? where? | 15:38 |
| desrt | >:| | 15:38 |
| willcooke | tkamppeter, is a mir sprint | 15:38 |
| tkamppeter | OK | 15:38 |
| desrt | i'd like to file a grievance with the union | 15:39 |
| willcooke | oh | 15:39 |
| willcooke | yeah | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic desrt | 15:39 |
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| desrt | :D | 15:39 |
| desrt | unions work so nicely! | 15:39 |
| willcooke | I'll get my ABC wall chart back up on the wall | 15:39 |
| desrt | so i spent the holidays doing a whole lot of work on getting jhbuild running nicely on debian-based systems | 15:40 |
| desrt | which apparently nobody put much effort into since pitti tried that a while ago | 15:40 |
| desrt | now that i'm back to 'real work' i'm looking into fixing a threading issue in file monitors that causes crashes if you unref a file monitor just as events are coming in... which happens a lot in the case of the appinfo monitor | 15:40 |
| desrt | that's actually a really tricky problem with some interesting engineering inside of it -- so probably that takes me a week | 15:41 |
| desrt | on the mir-is-crashing front, i had a chat with duflu and i'm pretty convinced that the crash they're seeing is not the bug that he linked to, and maybe not a glib bug at all | 15:41 |
| desrt | he's going to try to get more information and a testcase | 15:41 |
| desrt | if that ends up being a glib thing, then that's my next priority as soon as he gets back to me | 15:42 |
| desrt | other then that, i plan to go back to working on kdbus stuff | 15:42 |
| desrt | *than | 15:42 |
| desrt | (that's all) | 15:43 |
| willcooke | excellent, thanks desrt | 15:43 |
| willcooke | sounds like a busy week in store | 15:43 |
| desrt | busy but interesting | 15:43 |
| willcooke | also hope you're not too sad that the launch got scrubbed | 15:43 |
| willcooke | ;) | 15:44 |
| desrt | the work touches on a large issue i've been trying to better-define for a while | 15:44 |
| willcooke | another late night tonight? | 15:44 |
| desrt | willcooke: we get another try on friday :) | 15:44 |
| willcooke | oh Friday? kk | 15:44 |
| willcooke | it's gonna be fun to watch (if it's live) | 15:44 |
| willcooke | anyway | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 15:44 |
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| didrocks | Ubuntu Make: | 15:44 |
| didrocks | * Release Ubuntu Make 0.4 bringing Go, stencyl and finishing up the github move. More details at http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Ubuntu-Make-0.4-starts-the-new-year-adding-Go-support | 15:44 |
| didrocks | * Had to fix for 0.3 some tests after the release, as desktop VM and tests jenkins jobs are still not put back online by the CI team. s-jenkins is still not accessible | 15:44 |
| qengho | desrt: are you near launch site? | 15:44 |
| didrocks | Systemd: | 15:44 |
| didrocks | * Added an option for grub when multiple init systems are detected to select which init system to boot up with (in debian, needs sync up in ubuntu) | 15:44 |
| didrocks | * Started to work on the fsck <-> plymouth integration, fsckd deamon listening to multiple sockets done, more work needed though | 15:44 |
| didrocks | Mic: | 15:45 |
| didrocks | * Debug some apt with private ppas issues | 15:45 |
| didrocks | * Archive admin and some MIR duties | 15:45 |
| didrocks | . | 15:45 |
| desrt | qengho: (no. just watched live streams) | 15:45 |
| * qengho nods. | 15:45 | |
| desrt | didrocks: that grub thing was a nice idea. probably ends up being a real nice way to unbrick your system for some people | 15:45 |
| willcooke | thanks didrocks | 15:46 |
| didrocks | desrt: yeah, the issue is that some services enablement state will get unsync if you switch between them too much, but well | 15:46 |
| didrocks | that's the risk :) | 15:46 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong_ | 15:47 |
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| FJKong_ | testing memory leak and stability of sogou changing skin, confirmed there’s little memory leak when changing skin | 15:47 |
| FJKong_ | Suspect memory leaks when switching between windows, TODO. | 15:47 |
| FJKong_ | Tested 18 new skins from Sogou for realese, 3 have problems. | 15:47 |
| FJKong_ | unity dash search: sent email to developers, need more help | 15:47 |
| willcooke | thanks FJKong_, let me know if I can help with getting you some support | 15:48 |
| didrocks | what is the issue with the dash search? | 15:48 |
| FJKong_ | I need help on next step | 15:48 |
| FJKong_ | how uniy index local file | 15:49 |
| FJKong_ | and do searching | 15:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, having it to work with typing chinese in english, e.g "ni hao" to find | 15:49 |
| seb128 | heˈlō,həˈlō | 15:49 |
| seb128 | 您好 | 15:49 |
| didrocks | I can help getting you up to speed your knowledge on that, let's sync up after the meeting or tomorrow | 15:49 |
| FJKong_ | I have done work to map Chinese to pinyin | 15:50 |
| FJKong_ | cool, didrocks | 15:50 |
| qengho | (That's "nin", btw.) | 15:50 |
| didrocks | ok, let's see what you need and if I can help (not sure I can help on what seb128 is mentioning though) | 15:50 |
| didrocks | but yeah, pointers at least :) | 15:50 |
| FJKong_ | qengho: :P | 15:50 |
| willcooke | thanks didrocks | 15:50 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:51 |
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| willcooke | not sure if happyaron is around | 15:51 |
| willcooke | I'll give him a moment and then move on | 15:51 |
| willcooke | actually, let's move on and we can always come back.... | 15:51 |
| willcooke | happyaron, ^^ | 15:51 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 15:51 |
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| Laney | HELLO | 15:51 |
| Laney | • Happy new year! | 15:51 |
| Laney | • Some small-ish updates | 15:51 |
| Laney | ∘ Remove valac from vala-0.24; demote | 15:51 |
| Laney | ∘ Update cheese (on hold, see below) | 15:51 |
| Laney | ∘ Update eog | 15:52 |
| desrt | HELLO LANEY | 15:52 |
| Laney | • Patch pilot | 15:52 |
| Laney | • Discover libical transition, push a bit | 15:52 |
| Laney | ∘ cyrus-imapd-2.4 needs a debhelper merge (scary), will do | 15:52 |
| Laney | • Find out transition tracker has been broken since December 18th. Fix this with a workaround and propose a SRU with the real fix (bug #1407933) | 15:52 |
| ubot5 | bug 1407933 in dose3 (Ubuntu Trusty) "Can't handle Multi-Arch: no" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1407933 | 15:52 |
| Laney | • (re: cheese) Find out that appstream-util is supposed to replace appdata-tools as shipping the binary to validate appdata files (-util is in universe ATM and has coinstallability problems with -tools; debian bug #768269). Supposed to be a drop-in replacement; start packaging work and test builds to confirm this. | 15:52 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 768269 in appstream-util,appdata-tools "appdata-tools and appstream-util: error when trying to install together" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/768269 | 15:52 |
| Laney | ✻ | 15:52 |
| willcooke | thanks Laney | 15:52 |
| Laney | np | 15:53 |
| willcooke | While we're here - do you think there is any chance/point to including the new JS based sound recorder in the desktop? Presumably OEM could include it in their custom builds if required? | 15:53 |
| Laney | also now /usr/bin/m4 is hanging | 15:53 |
| Laney | weird | 15:53 |
| willcooke | is it mature enough? | 15:53 |
| seb128 | willcooke, the issue is more to drag another stack/interpreter on the default image | 15:53 |
| willcooke | gotya, sounds like a bad idea | 15:54 |
| seb128 | well need to be look at, I'm unsure what depends we are exactly talking about | 15:54 |
| willcooke | I can probably find a small app which can do what they need and suggest that it gets in to their build | 15:54 |
| seb128 | but maybe there is a simple sound recorded in universe we could use as well | 15:54 |
| willcooke | yeah | 15:54 |
| willcooke | I'll take a lool | 15:54 |
| willcooke | look | 15:54 |
| seb128 | recorder* | 15:54 |
| willcooke | sorry lool - ignore | 15:55 |
| * happyaron is around.. | 15:55 | |
| didrocks | -> on quote page | 15:55 |
| lool | willcooke: dont take me | 15:55 |
| mlankhorst | do you tab complete your words? | 15:55 |
| willcooke | I try and tab complete EVERYTHING | 15:55 |
| mlankhorst | that will end Wellark | 15:55 |
| willcooke | XD | 15:55 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:56 |
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| willcooke | hey happyaron | 15:56 |
| happyaron | hi | 15:56 |
| happyaron | * Removal of im-switch (LP: #1407578) with help from didrocks | 15:56 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1407578 in im-switch (Ubuntu) "Please remove im-switch from the archive" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1407578 | 15:56 |
| happyaron | * Adding diagnose information collection script for sogoupinyin | 15:56 |
| happyaron | * Work with people to get cell dict ready for next release | 15:56 |
| happyaron | * Work on integration of automatical testing for sogou engine kernel to auto build system | 15:56 |
| happyaron | * Add clang tests for the build system | 15:57 |
| happyaron | * Updates: fcitx-cloudpinyin, fcitx-googlepinyin, fcitx-anthy | 15:57 |
| happyaron | * staging opencc to experimental, API break | 15:57 |
| happyaron | * Rough check of 360 for linux | 15:57 |
| happyaron | over | 15:58 |
| willcooke | sos | 15:58 |
| willcooke | wow | 15:58 |
| willcooke | You've been busy | 15:58 |
| happyaron | a little bit, :) | 15:58 |
| * willcooke really should take more care over his typing | 15:58 | |
| willcooke | thanks happyaron | 15:58 |
| willcooke | #topic larsu | 15:58 |
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| larsu | hey, happy new year! | 15:58 |
| larsu | I've mostly dealt with backlog and sorting out stuff to do for the next weeks | 15:59 |
| larsu | worked with marco on the bamf issue (to make didrocks happy) | 15:59 |
| larsu | found some new regressions in gtk | 15:59 |
| seb128 | larsu, do you note those somewhere? | 16:00 |
| larsu | tried to backport upstream scrollbars to finally get rid of the transparency issues (as new ones came up) | 16:00 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 16:00 |
| larsu | but those seem to be split over multiple commits | 16:00 |
| larsu | not sure yet if it's worthwhile for this cycle | 16:00 |
| seb128 | willcooke, did we ever get feedback from design&co if using those would be ok? | 16:01 |
| larsu | seb128: can copy them to the pad after the meeting | 16:01 |
| willcooke | erm | 16:01 |
| seb128 | larsu, danke | 16:01 |
| larsu | seb128: some are in bugs already, like the gedit line number thing | 16:01 |
| willcooke | I think we agreed we would get a demo set up and show it to JohnLea_ | 16:01 |
| willcooke | and go from there | 16:01 |
| larsu | seb128: yes we did, john lea said they're fine | 16:01 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, but he didn't show up at this meeting in washington iirc? | 16:01 |
| seb128 | larsu, great | 16:01 |
| willcooke | I'll catch up with him and get his blessing, just to be safe | 16:02 |
| larsu | seb128, willcooke: I met him in some meeting room and showed him upstream | 16:02 |
| didrocks | and they know it will mean we are dropping them for gtk2 apps then? | 16:02 |
| JohnLea_ | willcooke, thanks, let's sync when you are next in | 16:02 |
| larsu | didrocks: psssst! | 16:02 |
| willcooke | :) thanks JohnLea_ | 16:02 |
| willcooke | larsu, I can use that demo app right? | 16:03 |
| larsu | willcooke: which demo app? | 16:03 |
| willcooke | the one with all the widgets in iut | 16:03 |
| willcooke | it | 16:03 |
| larsu | right, yes (it's called gtk3-widget-factory in gtk3-samples) | 16:03 |
| willcooke | great | 16:03 |
| larsu | eof | 16:04 |
| willcooke | I think it's been long enough now that we should go round the loop again, just to be sure. It wont take too long | 16:04 |
| willcooke | I'll aim to have it all wrapped up in the next week | 16:04 |
| willcooke | I can demo it over a hangout | 16:04 |
| seb128 | oh, fun gtk3-widget-factory has no bg | 16:04 |
| seb128 | you can see through it | 16:04 |
| larsu | ya | 16:04 |
| seb128 | make sure to demo over a blank gedit or something ;-) | 16:04 |
| larsu | it's not the only one :/ | 16:05 |
| willcooke | :) | 16:05 |
| larsu | or run with GTK_MODULES= | 16:05 |
| larsu | ah wait, you need to run master anyway | 16:05 |
| didrocks | remember that a lot of visual basic code wanted to do that | 16:06 |
| didrocks | so it's really a feature! | 16:06 |
| seb128 | :-) | 16:06 |
| willcooke | ok, I'll have a play tomorrow | 16:06 |
| willcooke | #topic mlankhorst | 16:06 |
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| mlankhorst | - Happy newyear! | 16:07 |
| mlankhorst | - Attempting to prevent vt switch on suspend for nouveau. | 16:07 |
| mlankhorst | - Sent a patch for a kernel issue I was hitting with netboot. [RFC PATCH] unlock rtnl mutex in ic_open_devs while waiting | 16:07 |
| mlankhorst | - Fixing pthread regression in wine https://bugs.launchpad.net/wine/+bug/1393196 | 16:07 |
| mlankhorst | - Wine may soon merge the winepulse driver, added some fixes from their sound maintainer. | 16:07 |
| mlankhorst | - Make the standalone xmir patch work on 1.16 and 1.17 branches through some ifdefs since 1.16 works slightly better. | 16:07 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1393196 in Wine "Wine1.7 from Ubuntu PPA can create only about 10% of the threads Wine normally can" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:07 |
| mlankhorst | I'm sort of waiting for mir exposing the new events to clients | 16:07 |
| willcooke | thanks mlankhorst | 16:10 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 16:10 |
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| qengho | * Fixed several problems with Flash plugin. | 16:10 |
| qengho | * I *was* fixing and porting Intel's wayland/ozone/chromium so I could extend it and get Mir. That was a nightmare. I am now starting from Ozone demo and adding features. Easier. | 16:10 |
| qengho | EOF | 16:10 |
| willcooke | sorry folks, my internet just went out for a sec or something | 16:10 |
| willcooke | mlankhorst, sorry, were you done before I moved on? | 16:11 |
| mlankhorst | yaeh | 16:11 |
| willcooke | kk, qengho you done too? | 16:11 |
| qengho | Two items. EOF. | 16:11 |
| willcooke | kk | 16:11 |
| willcooke | thanks | 16:11 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 16:11 |
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| seb128 | hey | 16:12 |
| seb128 | * Happy new year! | 16:12 |
| seb128 | * yesterday, lot of catching up after 3 weeks of holidays (emails, lists, uploads, ...) | 16:12 |
| seb128 | * today, some catching up still, spent a good part of the day helping on the sponsoring queue backlog-after-holidays | 16:12 |
| seb128 | * next, review current state of u-s-s and unity8-desktop to figure out what to work on next exactly | 16:12 |
| seb128 | </work-resume> | 16:12 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 | 16:13 |
| seb128 | yw! | 16:13 |
| seb128 | willcooke, says his IRC is acting again | 16:16 |
| desrt | uh oh. the one human who meetingology obeyed is now dead. | 16:18 |
| desrt | this is the start of one of the terminator movies, right? | 16:18 |
| Sweet5hark1 | desrt: lets see if meetingology grows "at a geometric rate" now ... | 16:18 |
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| willcooke | #topic SweetShark | 16:19 |
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| seb128 | lol | 16:19 |
| didrocks | weak! | 16:19 |
| willcooke | mwahaha | 16:19 |
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| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, your turn! | 16:19 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - end-of-year vacation | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - end-of-year administrative task (upstream, foundation) | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - some upstream writer refactoring for performance and readability (boring blog post follows) | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - some travel and event coordination | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - some bug tracker gardening | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - mail backlog | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - survived 31c3, twas awesome: over 10.000 hackers on four days (122 hours of talks are at http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2014/index.html ) | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - state of releases: | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- precise on 3.5.7+patches, needs investigation for bump to a new major (not urgent) | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- trusty on 4.2.7+patches, could be bumped to 4.2.8 (we have most of the upstream patches already, so mostly to be in sync with upstream version number) | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- utopic on 4.3.3, 4.3.4 in queue, 4.3.5 in PPA. When 4.3.4 is in updates, I guess we will go directly to 4.3.6 after that (release upsteam end of this month) | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | -- vivid: 4.4.0~beta2 in the prereleases ppa, upstream is at rc1. I need to bump that (IMHO, we should not wait for 4.4.0 upstream final and bump an rc in vivid in the next weeks for early testing) | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - happy new year everyone! | 16:20 |
| Sweet5hark1 | EOF | 16:20 |
| willcooke | I think I'm back | 16:20 |
| seb128 | wb willcooke, you missing halft Sweet5hark1's update | 16:20 |
| willcooke | I'll check the minutes | 16:20 |
| seb128 | k | 16:20 |
| willcooke | right, so #topic tkamppeter | 16:20 |
| seb128 | desrt tricked the bot through nick forgery :p | 16:20 |
| desrt | willcooke: we also discovered that meetingology's loyalty to you is wavering at best | 16:21 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 16:21 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Welcome to the Desktop Team | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For support please join #ubuntu | Issues with GTK 3.14? Check here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/gtk-update-v | Desktop Weekly Meeting 2015-01-06 | Current topic: tkamppeter | ||
| willcooke | :D | 16:21 |
| desrt | lol | 16:22 |
| tkamppeter | - OpenPrinting Summit 2015: Sent out first e-mails to potential speakers. | 16:22 |
| tkamppeter | - qpdf: Synced newest version from Debian Experimental. | 16:22 |
| tkamppeter | - system-config-printer: Corrected Trusty SRU upload, still waiting for approval. | 16:22 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs. | 16:22 |
| tkamppeter | Sorry, somehow my IRC acted up. | 16:23 |
| desrt | tkamppeter: seems to be a good day for that :) | 16:23 |
| willcooke | hrm, I think Freenode is sick | 16:25 |
| willcooke | thanks tkamppeter | 16:25 |
| willcooke | let's wrap while we can | 16:25 |
| seb128 | could be one of the servers | 16:25 |
| Laney | so much for a quick meeting | 16:25 |
| seb128 | seems to work here | 16:25 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 16:25 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Welcome to the Desktop Team | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For support please join #ubuntu | Issues with GTK 3.14? Check here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/gtk-update-v | Desktop Weekly Meeting 2015-01-06 | Current topic: AOB | ||
| seb128 | thanks willcooke | 16:25 |
| willcooke | any other business? | 16:25 |
| desrt | important announcement: | 16:25 |
| desrt | lenovo showed a new range of thinkpads at CES | 16:25 |
| desrt | they unscrewed (mostly) the keyboard and put the physical buttons back for the trackpoint | 16:26 |
| seb128 | with old keyboards back? | 16:26 |
| desrt | very important news! | 16:26 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 16:26 |
| Laney | good news in the year of the laptop refresh | 16:26 |
| Sweet5hark1 | \o/ | 16:26 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:26 |
| Laney | (for me) | 16:26 |
| willcooke | yayay | 16:26 |
| seb128 | for those like thinkpads at least ;-) | 16:26 |
| seb128 | (I still find them not nice looking) | 16:26 |
| Laney | they do look quite ... functional | 16:27 |
| seb128 | right | 16:27 |
| desrt | probably i get a thinkpad next, but i think i can afford to wait for the skylake ones :) | 16:27 |
| * Laney comes from having macbook pros for the last 8ish years | 16:27 | |
| willcooke | Those of you going to the Mir sprint, please get travel booked. | 16:27 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Welcome to the Desktop Team | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For support please join #ubuntu | Issues with GTK 3.14? Check here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/gtk-update-v | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jan 6 16:27:55 2015 UTC. | 16:27 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-01-06-15.32.moin.txt | 16:27 |
| desrt | willcooke: thanks for the reminder :) | 16:27 |
| seb128 | I think I would take a macbook over a thinkpad ;-) | 16:27 |
| desrt | seb128: if that's your attitude then you deserve what you get :p | 16:28 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:28 |
| seb128 | I'm quite happy with my latitude in fact | 16:28 |
| seb128 | it's just a bit heavy compared to e.g the xps | 16:28 |
| desrt | i'd like to point out the grab-bag of extra hardware that Laney has to cart around in order to make his laptop into a usable machine | 16:28 |
| desrt | and mention that i've never seen that happen with anyone's thinkpad... | 16:29 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:29 |
| seb128 | wait for Laney's refresh :p | 16:29 |
| Laney | haha | 16:29 |
| Laney | that is all purely optional | 16:29 |
| Laney | unless thinkpads come with risers ... | 16:29 |
| desrt | Laney: my old one did | 16:29 |
| desrt | it had a wedge-shaped battery that connected to the dock connector and served this purpose as a very nice side effect | 16:30 |
| Laney | that is handy | 16:34 |
| Laney | improved battery life is one of the things I am most looking forward to | 16:34 |
| Laney | this thing only gets about 2.5 hours, if that | 16:34 |
| desrt | some of the new models claim 20 hours | 16:34 |
| desrt | so in linux, probably at least like 4 hours and 15 minutes | 16:35 |
| willcooke | didrocks, http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/ubuntu-make-04-released-with-go-support.html | 16:55 |
| didrocks | willcooke: yeah, already read it, but do not hesitate if you see anything else :) | 16:57 |
| willcooke | :D | 16:57 |
| didrocks | I'm always pleased by the detail of their articles + screenshots and such | 16:57 |
| willcooke | the webupd8 guys always do a good job of that | 16:58 |
| willcooke | but that domain name though | 16:58 |
| willcooke | ;p | 16:58 |
| didrocks | ahah, yeah ;) | 16:58 |
| * willcooke -> EOD | 18:21 | |
| willcooke | ta ta | 18:21 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, I tested gnome-mahjongg on xfce, but since you have more unity fixes in git, i suppose we can't sync | 19:09 |
| Noskcaj | please ignore that sync bug, i can't get a titlebar in xfce now. | 19:11 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, hey, ok, can you write that on the bug and mark it invalid? | 19:29 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, done. Do you have time to review https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/libgweather/3.14/+merge/245275 ? | 19:46 |
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