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| pitti | Good morning | 06:42 |
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| pitti | shadeslayer_: $HOME and $XDG_SESSION_ID and $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR should be there, and the others should be implied (we don't explicitly set XDG_CACHE_DIR etc. in a real desktop) | 06:44 |
| pitti | shadeslayer_: what's missing there? bug reports appreciated | 06:44 |
| jda2000 | If I were to build an app for distribution in the Ubuntu Software Center and that app was linked to BDB 5.3 Would I have to write a check to Oracle? | 07:37 |
| Noskcaj | jda2000, np | 07:38 |
| Noskcaj | *no | 07:38 |
| jda2000 | Noskcaj: Thanks! | 07:38 |
| Noskcaj | You can see that info in https://sources.debian.net/src/db5.3/5.3.28-9/debian/copyright/ | 07:39 |
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| jda2000 | If I were to find an orphaned FLOSS app and fixed and packaged it to run on Ubuntu, could I offer it in the for-pay section of the Software Center and could the user's still download the improved source from the Ubuntu repository? | 07:52 |
| Noskcaj | jda2000, payed would depend on the license of the previous package, and no, they couldn't download the source, only the binary | 07:53 |
| jda2000 | Noskcaj: But what if I wanted them to be able to download the source since it still has to be Open Source? | 07:54 |
| Noskcaj | You could still make it open source on your website but i THINK that payed means you can't download the source through ubuntu's repository | 07:55 |
| jda2000 | Noskcaj: Oh. | 07:56 |
| Noskcaj | if you could, why pay for the app? | 07:56 |
| jda2000 | Noskcaj: Redhat has paid-for open source. | 07:56 |
| Noskcaj | They give better support though don't they if you pay? | 07:57 |
| jda2000 | Noskcaj: For the convienience of not having to build it yourself. | 07:57 |
| Noskcaj | good point | 07:57 |
| Noskcaj | Someone more experienced in the area needs to comment. | 07:58 |
| darkxst | jda2000, it will depend very much on the terms and conditions of the ubuntu app store | 07:59 |
| darkxst | I've never looked, but I know the apple store is incompatibly with GPL code | 07:59 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: It | 08:00 |
| jda2000 | Thanks darkxst ! | 08:00 |
| Unit193 | It's like synergy, source on gh, but binary builds are paid for. | 08:00 |
| Unit193 | s/paid for/behind a paywall/ | 08:01 |
| darkxst | Its certainly legit to sell GPL binaries, provided you provide the source on request also | 08:01 |
| jda2000 | darkxst: That was something I could google: http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/apps/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/commercial-software-faqs/ | 08:02 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, ? | 08:02 |
| jda2000 | darkxst: (Thanks for the hint) | 08:02 |
| jda2000 | The minimum price for applications is 2.99 USD. Hmmm... Not happy about that. | 08:06 |
| jda2000 | I guess that's where price - 20% - cc charge-back == 0 | 08:07 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:29 |
| pitti | good morning dholbach, gesundes Neues! | 08:29 |
| dholbach | hi pitti - and the same to you | 08:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | pitti: last I checked the tests were failing because of missing HOME and other XDG things, startkde manually exports things like XDG_DATA_DIRS and XDG_CONFIG_DIR | 08:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | but this was well over 6 months ago | 08:54 |
| pitti | shadeslayer_: $HOME is definitively there now; I did fix some $HOME issues in the past few months indeed | 08:55 |
| pitti | shadeslayer_: and tests now also always get a proper logind+PAM session; before, tests running as root didn't | 08:55 |
| pitti | but that's also only a month or so ago | 08:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | pitti: oh, how do I use that? I'd rather not have tests running as root | 08:57 |
| pitti | shadeslayer_: use what? it just happens | 08:57 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh I misunderstood :) | 09:01 |
| pitti | shadeslayer_: so perhaps try a local test run with current autopkgtest and without all the workarounds, and tell me (or preferably, LP bugs :) ) what's still wrong? | 09:02 |
| shadeslayer_ | will do | 09:02 |
| shadeslayer_ | pitti: btw this is all implemented in adt right? Not a Ubuntu specific thing? | 09:03 |
| pitti | shadeslayer_: right, autopkgtest has been in sync forever | 09:04 |
| pitti | shadeslayer_: and our CI lab just calls that (http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test) | 09:05 |
| shadeslayer_ | cool, I'm doing a Debian CI for Plasma 5, and was going to add autopkgtests to my Jenkins soon | 09:05 |
| pitti | nice | 09:58 |
| xnox | hallyn: experimental never migrates by itself, one needs to upload into unstable. from unstable onwards there is a waterfall unstable->testing->stable->old_stable | 10:19 |
| Unit193 | xnox: Hello. Hate to bother, but will you be able to merge cryptsetup this release? It's had a lot of the delta cut down, and seems to have better systemd integration. | 10:21 |
| xnox | Unit193: yes, when I have time. Why is it urgent for you? | 10:30 |
| Unit193 | xnox: Sure, thanks. It's not urgent, better systemd and tcrypt support are what I'm looking at though. | 10:36 |
| jamespage | do we have any best-practice around MIR's for python modules that build pypy-* packages? | 10:42 |
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| mdeslaur | @pilot in | 12:22 |
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| seb128 | cjwatson, hey, do you think you could review https://code.launchpad.net/~tj/ubuntu/trusty/grub-installer/lp1354730/+merge/230222 or maybe suggest somebody who could? that's a one line and is in the sponsoring queue since august | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | seb128: It needs to go into a branch based on lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/grub-installer/ubuntu (except branched for trusty), rather than using the unused UDD branch. But I'm not doing d-i stuff now in general; maybe slangasek can suggest somebody. | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | (Oh and it should use head -n1 not head -1 on general principles) | 12:52 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, ok, thanks | 12:52 |
| seb128 | slangasek, ^ | 12:53 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, maybe you can write some small review comments on the mp? ;-) | 12:53 |
| xnox | seb128: you are pushing it..... =) | 12:54 |
| seb128 | xnox, "it"? | 12:54 |
| cjwatson | copied and pasted | 12:54 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, thanks | 12:54 |
| seb128 | xnox, you think I should just have copied that myself? fair enough... | 12:54 |
| xnox | seb128: never mind me. | 12:55 |
| seb128 | xnox, cjwatson, happy new year btw ;-) | 12:55 |
| cjwatson | thanks :) | 12:56 |
| xnox | seb128: merci | 12:56 |
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| stgraber | bdmurray: thanks. I believe Vagrant looked into that stuff in Debian already (and quite possibly removed armhf support entirely since it only ever barely worked) so hopefully next time I sync/merge from Debian that bug will go away. | 14:27 |
| xnox | ev: "Ability to time shift as required to overlap with US and UK timezones simultaneously." - Ideal candidates would be located in Greenland =)))))) *giggle* | 14:48 |
| Riddell | uploads failing from launchpad? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwayland/5.1.2-0ubuntu1/+build/6692459 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/194161777/upload_6692459_log.txt | 14:48 |
| xnox | ev: https://ldd.tbe.taleo.net/ldd01/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=925 | 14:48 |
| ev | xnox: ha! Or on a barge. | 14:49 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: urgh, will look | 14:49 |
| cjwatson | They would appear to all be failing. Please don't retry, I'll ask for them to be reprocessed in bulk once I've figured out what's going on | 14:51 |
| cjwatson | Started 15 minutes ago | 14:51 |
| cjwatson | Odd_Bloke: ^- that affects the upload you mentioned you were waiting for, FYI | 14:51 |
| cjwatson | (I think) | 14:51 |
| xnox | ev: to be honest, if one get's the tide right, one can be efficiently arriving on the right side of the atlantic on the right periodic schedule for sprints etc. | 14:53 |
| xnox | ev: latency of satellite internet is bad for hangouts though. | 14:54 |
| cjwatson | Damnit, LP, a traceback would be nice | 14:54 |
| xnox | cjwatson: couple more days and you'll be back in foundations?! =)))))))) | 14:54 |
| cjwatson | ... nope | 14:54 |
| * xnox kidding | 14:54 | |
| Odd_Bloke | cjwatson: Yep, it did. | 14:54 |
| ev | xnox: watch it, you. You're not going to ruin this for me. | 14:55 |
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| lool | doko: heya | 15:21 |
| lool | doko: (and happy new year!) | 15:21 |
| lool | doko: in vivid, when trying to install the location-service cross build-deps for armhf, I get: | 15:22 |
| lool | gcc-4.9:armhf : Depends: binutils:armhf (>= 2.25) but it is not going to be installed | 15:22 |
| lool | I suspect this shouldn't be an :arch dependency here, correct? | 15:22 |
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| cjwatson | Riddell: Fixed, retried. | 15:58 |
| bdmurray | jodh: There've been some interesting updates to bug 1300235. | 15:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1300235 in upstart (Ubuntu) "init crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300235 | 15:59 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: lovely, thanks | 16:00 |
| jodh | bdmurray: can you establish what 'cmd' is set to in the call to RunAsSudoUserCommand() ? | 16:00 |
| bdmurray | jodh: isn't it GetBrowserCommand(...)? | 16:06 |
| jodh | bdmurray: yes - that's what I mean - what does that function return exactly that is then run as root and triggers the crash. | 16:12 |
| bdmurray | jodh: ah, I don't know. mvo? | 16:13 |
| mvo | bdmurray: let me read the bug, does that mean running synaptic triggers a crash in init?!? | 16:15 |
| jodh | bdmurray: can we strace or something? If it's returning ("kill", "-SEGV", "1") we have our answer :) | 16:15 |
| mvo | jodh: -^ | 16:15 |
| mvo | jodh: I doubt its doing just that ;) | 16:15 |
| jodh | mvo: agreed, unlikely, but would be useful to see an actual trace of what is happening. | 16:16 |
| mvo | bdmurray: hm, in the settings chromium tells me that it can not be set as the default browser | 16:20 |
| bdmurray | mvo: in chromium's settings? | 16:20 |
| mvo | bdmurray: yes, it says "chromium cannot determine or set the default browser." | 16:26 |
| dobey | mvo: btw, i saw yesterday that you were going to discuss the chromium/oxide issue with mirv. did you happen to do that? any news there? | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | @pilot out | 16:37 |
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| bdmurray | mvo: I've updated the bug some | 16:40 |
| dobey | i wonder if we should ping qengho about that | 16:40 |
| bdmurray | mvo: and I was able to change browsers using update-alternatives | 16:40 |
| mvo | dobey: uh, I am in a meeting right now, I think I missed this :/ | 16:44 |
| mvo | bdmurray: nice, thanks, let me try that | 16:44 |
| mvo | bdmurray: \o/ can reproduce | 16:45 |
| dobey | 15:23 < mvo> Mirv: re oxide, lets talk tomorrow, I would love to hear what the issues are and we might revert and add a workaround in click and maybe add "priority plugin directories" later to avoid the conflicts | 16:47 |
| dobey | mvo: ^^ that. i don't know if click needs any workaround though. but maybe that's a different issue | 16:48 |
| dobey | anyway, no rush. i'm just curious because the bug has unity-scope-click added on it | 16:48 |
| mvo | dobey: yeah, my suggestion would be to revert for now and I will add a workaround in click | 16:48 |
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| mvo | dobey: I don't think the scope is affected here, not sure why this was added | 16:49 |
| dobey | mvo: the scope has a depends on ubuntu-sdk-libs for the frmaeworks files | 16:49 |
| dobey | and ubuntu-sdk-libs was uninstallable because of oxide codecs | 16:49 |
| mvo | dobey: aha, so a revert would fix that, right? | 16:50 |
| dobey | it seems to me like the chromium/oxide packages just need to be fixed properly to not conflict with each other | 16:50 |
| dobey | mvo: maybe. i think the proper fix is to fix the packages to not conflict though. i see no reason why the packages should conflict (and i have no idea why they do exactly) | 16:51 |
| dobey | to me, a package named foo-extras should extend foo, not conflict with foo :) | 16:51 |
| mvo | dobey: yes, I agree, this is the right fix | 16:56 |
| pitti | infinity, kees, mdeslaur, slangasek, stgraber: TB meeting in 4 mins | 16:56 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: ack, thanks! | 16:57 |
| infinity | pitti: Erm, yes. Waking up. | 17:02 |
| slangasek | seb128: for d-i reviews, stgraber or infinity could help | 17:33 |
| seb128 | slangasek, thanks | 17:41 |
| infinity | What am I reviewing? | 17:43 |
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| seb128 | https://code.launchpad.net/~tj/ubuntu/trusty/grub-installer/lp1354730/+merge/230222 | 17:46 |
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| infinity | seb128: Looks like Colin's non-review was already a fair review. | 17:47 |
| seb128 | yeah | 17:47 |
| seb128 | it's a one liner than is waiting since august | 17:47 |
| seb128 | would be nice to see if off the review list one way or another | 17:48 |
| seb128 | it's trivial enough that it could be applied without asking the submitter to update | 17:48 |
| cjwatson | right the submitter probably can't create the base branch anyway | 17:48 |
| cjwatson | should be easy enough for a d-i committer to migrate over | 17:48 |
| infinity | Yeah, I agree, no need to force them through the branch dance. | 17:48 |
| infinity | I'm more interested in if it's the right fix, and if it breaks anything unrelated. | 17:48 |
| infinity | So, I'll need to look at more than 3 lines of context. | 17:49 |
| seb128 | right, which is where the "needs a reviewer" comes in the equation | 17:49 |
| infinity | Cause it's entirely sensible for rootfs to be multiple devices, and for grub to install to all of them, so it depends on what context this code runs in. | 17:50 |
| matschaffer | Hi, a few days ago I was attempting to rebuild nginx to include nginx-auth-ldap. I came up with this: https://gist.github.com/matschaffer/97764148967fe17e5349 which seems to at least get the build process working but it ends up downloading an orig.tar.gz and ignoring my attempt at picking up the new module. Am I pretty close or should I plan to just read https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/start.en.html in | 18:02 |
| matschaffer | its entirety? (apologies for repost from ubuntu-server, still looking for the right audience for this question) | 18:02 |
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| mdeslaur | cjwatson: mind if I merge mime-support? | 18:57 |
| cjwatson | mdeslaur: Go for it. | 18:57 |
| mdeslaur | thanks | 18:57 |
| Noskcaj | lol | 19:08 |
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