| xubuntu95w | Hi, I have problem with audio. I do not anything, no install programs, actualization... Audio dont play. I try youtube, vlc player gmusic... Try to change volume on panel, reboot, and audio still not work. Can you help me? Try to restart alsa to, but without effect. | 01:28 |
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| drc | Is this after you uninstalled pulseaudio? | 01:29 |
| xubuntu95w | drc> no, I dont uninstall pulseaudio, Inly I do, is plug external USB HDD. And format to NTFS I think you remember my last question. | 01:38 |
| drc | Got confused, sorry. | 01:38 |
| drc | Well, Xubuntu uses PulseAudio...I'd look into that before ALSA. | 01:39 |
| bazhang | better check alsamixer just to be sure nothing is muted, and pcm is set to less than 100 | 01:41 |
| xubuntu95w | drc> Ok , I guess I mistook nick . :) Some person help me with NTFS one hour back. | 01:41 |
| xubuntu95w | bazhang> I check alsamixer and all settings before I try to ask. :) | 01:41 |
| drc | xubuntu95w: That was me (among others), I just confused you with someone else | 01:41 |
| xubuntu95w | I have it! pulseaudio -k work well! Thank you for letting me directed to pulseaudio. | 01:47 |
| === [JJ]Albert_ is now known as [JJ]Auburn | ||
| xubuntu57w | Hi. It's been some time since I've connected to IRC and I'm having issues connecting to Freenode with Xchat. I am not familiar with connecting with SASL and Iam having issues finding clear documentation on what I need to do. I understand I need to register with nickserv but I am not even able to connect to a server to send the /msg. Can anyone please point me in the right direction? | 04:37 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu57w: Hi. So Hexchat has built-in support for SASL whereas Xchat does not. As to connecting, I would presume you are using default config. Do you have any firewall (company or home) that would be restricting? Can you say what error message(s) you get when trying to connect? | 04:39 |
| xubuntu57w | Unit193: Yes I am using the default when connecting with Xchat. When connecting with xchat I am getting the error "No Ident response" and "You need to identify via SASL to use this server" then it kicks me off. | 04:42 |
| xubuntu57w | Unit193: It's been a few years since I've used irc, but I'm familiar with nickserv, but before you would register/ident after connecting. now I can't even do that | 04:43 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu57w: ...Are you trying to connect over Tor? I believe that's the only time SASL is actually required to connect. | 04:46 |
| xubuntu57w | Unit193: No I'm not connecting via tor. I just got hexchat and its saying the same thing | 04:47 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu57w: Well you could register with the webchat, but that still wouldn't explain what's up. Can you check what server and port it's using? Also, this may be more fitting for the network channel, #freenode | 04:51 |
| Unit193 | Oooh, I see. | 04:56 |
| === xubuntu57w is now known as trompstomp | ||
| nerdistmonk | So when is xubuntu getting xfce 4.12? | 05:26 |
| Unit193 | Xfce 4.12 doesn't exist yet, there's just the development 4.11 releases. | 05:27 |
| Unit193 | !info xfwm4 vivid | And Xubuntu generally has those | 05:27 |
| ubottu | And Xubuntu generally has those: xfwm4 (source: xfwm4): window manager of the Xfce project. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.11.2-0ubuntu2 (vivid), package size 388 kB, installed size 2352 kB | 05:28 |
| nerdistmonk | well i seem to be on 4.10 at the moment, im using the xubuntu-devel release (15.04) | 05:28 |
| Unit193 | What information are you going off of? | 05:29 |
| nerdistmonk | ahhh | 05:29 |
| nerdistmonk | i see what you mean | 05:29 |
| Unit193 | Check: inxi -Sxxx | 05:29 |
| nerdistmonk | "about xfce" lies....all lies.....synaptic shows im already on 4.11....ok nevermind then....derp | 05:30 |
| xangua | some parts are 4.11, yes | 05:31 |
| Unit193 | Which is funny because xfce4-about is shipped in libxfce4ui-utils, which is version 4.11.1-2ubuntu1. :) | 05:32 |
| xangua | you can go to xfce forums to check the development | 05:32 |
| nerdistmonk | i just wished multimonitor behavior was better | 05:32 |
| xangua | still not sure why xubuntu comes with parole player, it can't play DVD's half of the time | 05:33 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: what are you seeking? i use xfce in 14.04 LTS.. meets my needs and expectations | 05:33 |
| nerdistmonk | well i got both my monitors working | 05:34 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: sure.. that happened "out of the box" for me.. | 05:34 |
| nerdistmonk | its just not ideal | 05:34 |
| nerdistmonk | i had to use xrandr to get em working | 05:34 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: ok.. well, let a volunteer know if you would like to share details about what you are seeking | 05:34 |
| nerdistmonk | even then xfce doesn't notice nor care about that screen | 05:34 |
| holstein | !details | 05:34 |
| ubottu | Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) | 05:34 |
| nerdistmonk | ok simply put, it would be nice to right click a window and have a "send to monitor 2" option | 05:35 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: i literally installed, and used the included GUI tool.. though, i can use arandr as well | 05:35 |
| nerdistmonk | a way to quickly move windows about | 05:35 |
| nerdistmonk | I was forced to use xrandr | 05:35 |
| nerdistmonk | and my resolutions are not accurate | 05:35 |
| nerdistmonk | it thinks my 1080p monitor should be on 1440x900 | 05:36 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: be sure and let the hardware manufacturers know you would like linux support, as well | 05:36 |
| nerdistmonk | sigh.... | 05:36 |
| nerdistmonk | well amd gave you guys the driver code | 05:36 |
| nerdistmonk | but i guess the old 2002 excuse still works in lieu of a solution though | 05:36 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: this is what i would try http://makandracards.com/makandra/12447-how-to-move-a-window-to-the-next-monitor-on-xfce-xubuntu | 05:36 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: amd provided the driver that is in the repos | 05:37 |
| holstein | !ati | 05:37 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 05:37 |
| nerdistmonk | im using gallium | 05:37 |
| nerdistmonk | fglrx is broken in xubuntu and has been for a while | 05:37 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: if they want, they can give you a flawless experience in linux.. it will be up to them, ultimately, to provide support | 05:37 |
| nerdistmonk | forget it holstein | 05:38 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: sure, but, that doesnt mean dual head is broken in linux/xubuntu.. in intel hardware, and nvidia hardware i have available to me to test, it works out of the box | 05:38 |
| holstein | !bug | 05:38 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 05:38 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: you can, and should provide a bug report.. that actualy can help address the issues you are having | 05:38 |
| holstein | though, at the end of the day, its going to be up to the manufacturers to feel it lucrative to support linux.. and more and more are all the time.. until then, we are all basically hacking hardware into doing what it was not intended to do | 05:39 |
| nerdistmonk | holstein ive listening to the "its the manufacturers" fault bedtime story since before the twin towers ceased to be | 05:39 |
| holstein | purchasing with linux support in mind, or included, or with linux preloaded can really save a lot of time and hassle | 05:39 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: its no one's fault, friend | 05:40 |
| nerdistmonk | im using open source drivers for this card, so it falls in their hands | 05:40 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: nothing is broken.. you bought a box with windows support.. and thats fine.. but, linux is not doing anything to prevent you from running it on that card | 05:40 |
| nerdistmonk | AMD intends on handing the torch over to the gallium/mesa team | 05:40 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: the open ones are doing the best they can | 05:40 |
| nerdistmonk | lol | 05:40 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: the developers are not able to, or encouraged to know how to support the proprietary hardware | 05:41 |
| nerdistmonk | you just made the broadest presumption in linux history | 05:41 |
| holstein | *all* of linux is completely open, and anyone can support it, and more and more companies are | 05:41 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: a team of professionals were hired to provide drivers for your hardware in windows.. in linux, its just you and me, and this community.. and folks trying with the information they are given | 05:43 |
| nerdistmonk | dude...ive been using linux for 15 years. | 05:43 |
| nerdistmonk | its not a windows box | 05:43 |
| nerdistmonk | forget i said anything please. | 05:43 |
| holstein | nerdistmonk: so, ask the creators of the hardware for linux support, if they promised it.. if they didnt, then, there is no "fault" | 05:44 |
| xubuntu81w_ | How can i enable password on startup ? | 07:31 |
| baizon | xubuntu81w_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/113500/why-am-i-not-asked-for-password-at-startup | 07:36 |
| baizon | xubuntu81w_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autologin | 07:36 |
| xubuntu28i | hi everybody | 09:42 |
| slickymasterWork | !hi | xubuntu28i | 09:42 |
| ubottu | xubuntu28i: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 09:42 |
| === squeegily_ is now known as squeegily | ||
| squeegily | Removing PulseAudio worked except that removed the system tray volume control | 14:45 |
| holstein | squeegily: actually, it removed pulse audio, and all of its functions | 14:46 |
| holstein | squeegily: you can use alsamixer in the terminal | 14:46 |
| squeegily | So I went on #archlinux and asked them what the default volume control for XFCE is (the one that controls ALSA) | 14:46 |
| squeegily | It's xfce4-mixer | 14:46 |
| squeegily | The volume keys are really handy | 14:46 |
| holstein | right.. xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce | 14:47 |
| paolo | is there a way to specify things that I don't want to mount automatically, for example when i connect an usb drive? | 14:47 |
| holstein | paolo: try in the settings manager, removable drives and media settings.. | 14:48 |
| paolo | no way from command line? | 14:48 |
| holstein | paolo: im sure there is, but, you are using xfce, correct? | 14:48 |
| paolo | yes | 14:49 |
| holstein | paolo: try the GUI included for that setting | 14:49 |
| squeegily | paolo: Settings > Removable Drives and media > sudo rm -rf / | 14:50 |
| holstein | paolo: please dont run that command ^ | 14:51 |
| holstein | !danger | 14:52 |
| ubottu | DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! | 14:52 |
| squeegily | That's really good that that ubottu shortcut exists | 14:52 |
| mucus | i like that one | 14:52 |
| paolo | thanks guys! i'm trying to selectively define which devices should or shouldn't be mounted, using their id | 14:56 |
| paolo | it appears the gui doesn't offer that feature | 14:56 |
| paolo | uuid | 14:56 |
| holstein | !fstab | 14:57 |
| ubottu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 14:57 |
| holstein | though, that will be more at boot time | 14:57 |
| holstein | paolo: i would try main #ubuntu or the main mailing list.. or a general linux channel.. | 14:57 |
| paolo | i'll do, thanks | 14:58 |
| paolo | i added this line to /etc/fstab | 15:27 |
| paolo | UUID=c1398422-7a7c-4863-8a8f-45a1db26b4f2 /home/paolo/parking/raspberry/bck/mnt/system ext4 noauto,rw,nodev,nosuid,uhelper=udisks2 0 0 | 15:28 |
| paolo | but it still is automatically mounted | 15:28 |
| holstein | paolo: AFAIK, fstab is what happens at boot..not when a device is plugged | 15:28 |
| paolo | not sure, because if in fstab i use /dev/null instead of some other dir, the partition is not mounted (without any reboot) | 15:30 |
| holstein | paolo: but, you dont plug /dev/null into the machine | 15:30 |
| holstein | i think if i wanted that, and i never have, so i have no first hand experience setting it up.. but, i would look at different file managers that may just offer this functionality by default, or, an easy way to selectively automount partitions and drives being plugged | 15:31 |
| mucus | what's the command to install? | 15:34 |
| mucus | i thought it was sudo install -i package.deb | 15:34 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Via_a_Text_Based_Methods mucus | 15:35 |
| mucus | dpkg! | 15:39 |
| mall | Good afternoon from Barcelona. I've just noticed that my audio output -i.e. headphones- is not working! as in it does not out put any sound. This is an asus eeepc 1001xpd, and if I boot in, say, debian crunchbang it DOES work. Could somebody help me troubleshoot please? thank you | 15:49 |
| mall | I am running an up to date xubuntu latest LTS | 15:49 |
| holstein | mall: was it always working in ubuntu/xubuntu? did an update break something? does this happen as the guest user? i say, since its working in #!, the hardware is fine,and its either config or alsa/kernel driver related.. | 15:51 |
| mall | hello holstein, thank you for helping, I would say that it was working before, almost 100 % sure | 15:51 |
| mall | and could not pinpoint when did this start to fail | 15:51 |
| mall | I think before the last .1 update | 15:51 |
| mall | unfortunately I am not sure | 15:52 |
| holstein | mall: the last what .1 update? you mean, xubuntu 14.04.1 update? | 15:52 |
| mall | yes, sorry | 15:52 |
| holstein | mall: regardless, please try with the guest user.. this will tell you if the issue is system-wide, or in your user config | 15:52 |
| mall | ok, let me try | 15:52 |
| holstein | then, check *all* hardware keys, and mixer settings | 15:52 |
| holstein | use pavucontrol | 15:52 |
| mall | be right back | 15:53 |
| holstein | get something playing and see if it works | 15:53 |
| holstein | *then*, try older kernels in your grub list | 15:53 |
| Parallaxx | Hey, what's the deal with Skype not installing on xubuntu. | 16:18 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: it installs here, but, skype is not an application that is made by ubuntu | 16:18 |
| holstein | !skype | 16:18 |
| ubottu | To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga | 16:18 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: i'll just get the .deb from the "official" site.. if its not working these days, let the creators of it know you are having a problem, or share details about your issues, and a volunteer may assist | 16:19 |
| Parallaxx | Yeah I tried that the other day except it got angry at 386 architecture or something | 16:20 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: sure.. just elaborate about what "something" is.. seems like you could be trying to install the 32bit skype on 64bit xubuntu | 16:21 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: which, AFAIK is not a problem.. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-install-a-32bit-program-in-64bit-ubuntu for example *if* that is the issue you have | 16:22 |
| Parallaxx | Sorry, lemme try again and then see exactly what error message I get | 16:22 |
| Parallaxx | Cuz I forgot | 16:22 |
| mall | holstein, are you there? guest user headphone output DOEs work | 16:23 |
| holstein | mall: cool.. so, you can stop fiddling with the OS, and drivers, and system settings.. | 16:23 |
| mall | yay | 16:23 |
| mall | jeje | 16:23 |
| holstein | mall: you konw its just a simple config for your user... look in the pavucontrol application i mentioned | 16:24 |
| mall | under pavucontrol, gui, output tab, headphones are selected | 16:24 |
| Parallaxx | Lol it doesn't look like it's failing this time | 16:24 |
| mall | and there is a volume bar shaking around | 16:24 |
| mall | volume is 100% for both channels (0db) | 16:25 |
| mall | not muted | 16:25 |
| holstein | mall: sure.. so you can look there, and try messing with *all* settings, since, headphones may or may not be labeled headphones.. and try alsamixer in the terminal as well | 16:25 |
| holstein | !audio | 16:25 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 16:25 |
| holstein | mall: you cant trust the labeles.. | 16:25 |
| Parallaxx | Wow it's installing mad stuff now just for Skype | 16:26 |
| mall | there are just two outs | 16:26 |
| mall | internal speakers and headphone out | 16:26 |
| holstein | mall: ok.. but, you *know* the output works. and on your system.. so, in your user setup is where you will find the answer | 16:26 |
| mall | internal speakers, when selected, work... while headphone out, does not, just stop sound, although there is no error feedback from the computer, i.e. from pavucontrol gui, it acts as if everything was working | 16:26 |
| mall | let me try alsamixer | 16:27 |
| mall | as you suggested | 16:27 |
| Parallaxx | Well.... Skype installed, what do ya know | 16:27 |
| Parallaxx | No clue what happened the other day | 16:27 |
| mall | nothing in alsamixer, holstein; where else should I check ? | 16:29 |
| holstein | mall: in your users config | 16:29 |
| mall | sorry, but when you say users config, what do you refer exactly | 16:29 |
| holstein | mall: one can always just rename, or move *all* configs.. test, then, put back what you want/need | 16:29 |
| holstein | mall: just that, friend. the .config files for the users session, which is the only place you state your audio is "broken | 16:30 |
| mall | are you talking about files ? | 16:30 |
| holstein | mall: the config files, correct | 16:30 |
| mall | and where would I find these files | 16:30 |
| holstein | mall: *literally* in ~/.config | 16:30 |
| mall | jaja | 16:30 |
| mall | ok, thank you | 16:30 |
| holstein | mall: one can always just rename that, and test with a fresh config, and put back what is needed. or easily revert if that is not the 'Fix' | 16:30 |
| mall | if you rename or delete the config, it is automatically re-created ? | 16:31 |
| holstein | mall: no need to delete | 16:31 |
| holstein | mall: just rename, or move, and *keep* the current configs.. | 16:32 |
| Parallaxx | Is there any difference between chromium and chrome besides the need to install pepper flash separately with chromium? | 16:32 |
| holstein | then, you will get new, fresh, default, out of the box, hopefully, non broken configs | 16:32 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome | 16:32 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: as far as for ubuntu/xubuntu, chromium is in the default repos.. chrome is not.. as far as for adobe/flash, adobe provides the current flash for chrome, which can be used in other browsers | 16:33 |
| Parallaxx | Seems like same thing minus functionality and made 'politically' amenable to linuxers | 16:34 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: you can draw whatever conclusions you like... adobe doesnt allow flash to be released in a state that allows ubuntu to included it.. so, chrome cannot be included | 16:35 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: they provide a .deb, that adds the source, if you want/need to use it.. if not, chromium is in the repos.. | 16:36 |
| Parallaxx | Yeah kinda what I said... Maybe got 'blame' wrong but | 16:36 |
| Parallaxx | Similar | 16:36 |
| holstein | flash is not the only reason or limitation that prevents chrome from being released with it | 16:36 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: there is no "blame", though.. there are guidelines. they are not met | 16:36 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: but, that doesnt matter, since you can choose to run whichever you want | 16:37 |
| Parallaxx | Only bad thing about proper chrome is it seemed to render fonts ugly last time I tried | 16:37 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: sure.. "ugly" is always a matter of opinion, and you can always let the creators know what you prefer, or, seek support on how to make it look as you choose | 16:38 |
| internetman | is there a tray app for enable/disable sleep/hibernate functions? | 16:38 |
| internetman | i seem to remember there is, but cant find it | 16:38 |
| Parallaxx | Lemme try with Chromium this time | 16:38 |
| internetman | caffeine! | 16:39 |
| Parallaxx | Beauty is only somewhat in the eye of the beholder though ;) | 16:40 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: preferences are, certainly, and you are welcome to ask for, and faciliate your *exact* preferences.. and using specific terms, and relative comparisons will help volunteers assist | 16:41 |
| Parallaxx | New question.... Truecrypt.. What's everyone's thoughts? To use, or not to use? | 16:45 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: its not supported anymore | 16:46 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: its *only* supported to decrypt files to migrate.. again, freedom of choice is that you can use whatever tools you like, even ones the creators themselves state *not* to use.. | 16:47 |
| Parallaxx | Well the newest one is crippled but | 16:47 |
| mall | holstein, is there any particular configs that you believe could be affecting the headphones output? there are so many config files here | 16:48 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: there is no "but".. its designed *not* to work, since its not supported anymore.. you can ask in an appropriate ##security channel.. its not in the repos | 16:48 |
| mall | ^' | 16:48 |
| Parallaxx | The last uncrippled version is still capable, there's difference of opinion on whether it's ok to use | 16:48 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: there actually isnt.. its not supported.. but, you *can* use it.. if your opinion is you want to use is regardless, then use it ..no one will stop you.. if you are asking if you should, the answer is clear | 16:48 |
| holstein | mall: thats why i suggest, just rename the *entire* ~/.config ..let a new one spawn at relog,and test the audio.. if it works, put back what you want/need, inside .config, which may be nothing.. if its doesnt work.. delete the newone, and put the old one back | 16:49 |
| Parallaxx | Was it once included in the repositories before it was randomly abandoned | 16:50 |
| mall | ok I understand the suggestion now, thank you | 16:50 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: is that a question? regardless, the answer is, its not in the repos.. | 16:51 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: truecrypt is not in the repos.. | 16:51 |
| Parallaxx | It was a question, I'm curious if it ever was | 16:52 |
| Parallaxx | What's a better channel to ask this stuff btw | 16:52 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: AFAIK, it was never allowed to be included, likely due to licencing | 16:52 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: the "better" channel, again, would be ##security | 16:53 |
| mucus_ | how do i install themes? | 16:53 |
| mucus_ | my xubu just has a few, and the ones i like aren't here | 16:53 |
| holstein | mucus_: depends.. there are typically directions with the themes, if you get them from something like gnomelook.. | 16:53 |
| Parallaxx | Weird how that has two hash symbols | 16:53 |
| mucus_ | oh there are sites for these | 16:53 |
| mucus_ | derp i shoulda just googled | 16:54 |
| Parallaxx | Thanks for the better channel | 17:00 |
| Parallaxx | They basically said the same as you | 17:00 |
| Parallaxx | So I'm happy installing it | 17:00 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: the text and references are on the site where you are downloading it from | 17:00 |
| Parallaxx | Actually it installs easier than even chromium | 17:00 |
| drc | Parallaxx: two hashes in the channel name usually means that you have to be registered on freenode to get in...usually :) | 17:01 |
| Parallaxx | I'm not installing from their main site, you have to use an alternate trusted site to get the non-crippled one | 17:01 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: lol.. | 17:01 |
| Parallaxx | Grc truecrypt archive I used | 17:01 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: its funny to even refer to that so loosely as "trusted" ;) | 17:02 |
| Parallaxx | Yeah I used that extremely loosely | 17:02 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: please dont, since its not factual | 17:03 |
| knome | drc, nope, it usually means the channel has a general subject | 17:03 |
| drc | knome: Really? I've been misinformed for years then :) | 17:04 |
| Parallaxx | Sorry! | 17:04 |
| Parallaxx | Maybe "not completely totally sketchy" | 17:05 |
| Parallaxx | Rather than "trusted" lol | 17:05 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: i prefer to use the term "unsupported", since its not supported any longer | 17:05 |
| knome | drc, "Primary channel names, formatted with a single leading hash mark (#), are reserved for participating groups and organizations based on their legal or informal claim to the associated name or name prefix." | 17:05 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: we can use the offtopic channel for discussion.. | 17:05 |
| holstein | !ot | 17:05 |
| ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 17:05 |
| knome | drc, "Topical or reference channel names, formatted with two leading hash marks (##), are allocated on a first-come, first-served basis to unofficial groups wishing to discuss a project, group or general topic area." | 17:05 |
| knome | drc, from https://freenode.net/policy.shtml | 17:06 |
| drc | Yeah, I was just looking at that...live and learn. | 17:06 |
| Parallaxx | Which is the off topic channel | 17:06 |
| Parallaxx | Oops | 17:06 |
| Parallaxx | Nevermind | 17:06 |
| holstein | Parallaxx: the one above in the linux.. #xubuntu-otfftopic | 17:06 |
| Parallaxx | Didn't read | 17:06 |
| knome | Parallaxx, pay attention! | 17:06 |
| Parallaxx | Sorry! | 17:07 |
| holstein | #xubuntu-offtopic | 17:07 |
| Parallaxx | Momentary lapse | 17:07 |
| mucus_ | hrm. . . . | 17:08 |
| mucus_ | why can't i drop my theme folder from desktop to /usr/share/themes ? | 17:08 |
| mucus_ | can't cut/paste either | 17:09 |
| knome | mucus_, you need sudo to do that | 17:09 |
| drc | permissions? | 17:09 |
| Pici | (shouldn't that be ~/.themes/ for user themes) | 17:09 |
| mucus_ | that's another one | 17:09 |
| drc | mucus_: Use ~/.themes, no problem | 17:09 |
| Pici | I admit, its been a while since I've dealt with desktop stuff. | 17:09 |
| holstein | i was thinking a local .themes would work | 17:09 |
| mucus_ | but i also don't know how to open my hidden folders | 17:09 |
| knome | Pici, user-specific themes, yes :) | 17:09 |
| holstein | mucus_: in the filemanager menu, you can use control+h to hide/unhide | 17:10 |
| holstein | filemanager window, i should say | 17:10 |
| mucus_ | that's not doing it. . . | 17:10 |
| holstein | mucus_: you may not have .themes in your home | 17:11 |
| mucus_ | none of the hidden folders . . . wait home? | 17:11 |
| drc | phone home | 17:11 |
| knome | mucus_, /home/yourusername/.themes/ | 17:11 |
| mucus_ | here i was looking at / | 17:11 |
| mucus_ | silly me | 17:11 |
| Pici | the ~ denotes your home | 17:12 |
| holstein | mucus_: its tricky at first.. no worries | 17:12 |
| mucus_ | so can i just create .themes ? | 17:13 |
| holstein | mucus_: correct | 17:13 |
| holstein | and in your users /home, you will have permission to do so | 17:13 |
| mucus_ | there we go | 17:13 |
| mucus_ | still not the theme i wanted, but eh | 17:13 |
| drc | mucus_: ~/.themes is the place to drop the new themes you do want, once you get them. | 17:14 |
| Parallaxx | What kinda themes work | 17:15 |
| mucus_ | there we go | 17:15 |
| mucus_ | dusk gtk3 | 17:15 |
| mucus_ | beautiful | 17:15 |
| Parallaxx | Xfce look? | 17:15 |
| drc | Parallaxx: It varies, some, like greybird, are complex while some, like basix, are very simple | 17:16 |
| Parallaxx | Hmm | 17:16 |
| mucus_ | oh i can change my mouse too? | 17:17 |
| mucus_ | neat | 17:17 |
| === qwebirc621519 is now known as slickymasterWork | ||
| mall | holstein, one question, if I remove all config files, do I have to reboot to test sound? logout? any cli suggested line? thanks | 17:24 |
| drc | mall: I'd <rename> ~/.config (not <remove>)...and a simple logout/in should work to respawn things. | 17:26 |
| mall | ok thanks | 17:27 |
| mall | holstein, drc, I moved my .config folder to desktop, logged out then in, but that did not solve the problem of audio not coming out of headphones or plugged external speakers (internal speakers work, and external speakers or headphones work in other distros) | 17:38 |
| holstein | mall: sure | 17:38 |
| holstein | mall: but, still, you state, its working as other users | 17:38 |
| mall | at least as guest | 17:38 |
| mall | btw, this defaulted all my panels :( | 17:38 |
| mall | they are all default now, why oh why, I put a lot of effort there | 17:39 |
| holstein | mall: sure.. im just saying, thats a pretty good indicator that the issue is with the users config, and not with the system | 17:39 |
| holstein | mall: the "defaulted panels" is why i stated *not* to remove the config files, but, just rename, and test | 17:39 |
| mall | i did not remove but moved | 17:39 |
| holstein | mall: now that you have tested, as i stated before, you can easily delete the new ones, and put your others either back in place, or rename them back as default | 17:39 |
| mall | i already moved the .config back to place | 17:40 |
| holstein | *great*! | 17:40 |
| holstein | so, relog back in and things will be as they were | 17:40 |
| mall | but not all was restored, i.e. panels | 17:40 |
| mall | I already did that, panels are on default :/ | 17:40 |
| holstein | the config for your panel is in there.. | 17:41 |
| mall | this is strange indeed | 17:41 |
| holstein | if you deleted, or moved or removed it back when you were poking around in there, then, that would get you a default config | 17:41 |
| holstein | regardless, none of this addresses your issue... and is not suggested as a fix, but, more a way to isolate where the issue is | 17:41 |
| mall | I did, exactly: - move config file to desktop -logout login (everything shows as default) -try sound with and without headphones (no changes) -put back old .config in place (Replace all) -logout login | 17:42 |
| holstein | mall: sure, and i hear what you are saying, but, *before* you moved it, you were looking around in there, and i dont know what you did, and im not saying you did anyhting.. just that, things happen | 17:42 |
| mall | hmmm, I didn't really edit anything :/ | 17:43 |
| holstein | mall: ok | 17:43 |
| mall | Idk, oh god | 17:43 |
| mall | anyway..., | 17:43 |
| holstein | mall: the panels are defaulted.. fact.. if you dont have the config backed up, then its gone | 17:43 |
| mall | yeah, its fine, I guess, but if re-doing config files do not solve the problem, what else can the problem be related to? other packages? | 17:44 |
| mall | needs to be user-dependant | 17:44 |
| holstein | mall: all im noting is, since it works as other users, the system is likely fine | 17:45 |
| mall | Yes, that makes sense | 17:45 |
| mall | but could it be that some program installed only for this particular user is messing with my sound ? | 17:45 |
| mall | or programs are not installed in this manner ? | 17:46 |
| holstein | mall: i dont know how you installed programs | 17:46 |
| holstein | they typically are not. but, i dont know what you have done, and you dont either | 17:47 |
| mall | jaja | 17:47 |
| mall | (haha) | 17:47 |
| holstein | mall: i say, the "quickest" route, for me, if i dont know *anything* about the box anymore, would be to backup and fresh install | 17:47 |
| holstein | i may prefer that, if i dont know anything about the system | 17:47 |
| mall | I see | 17:47 |
| mall | It is not as I do not know anything about the system, I just do not know when did headphones stop working | 17:48 |
| holstein | otherwise, im pretty certain you just have it muted | 17:48 |
| mall | alsamixer shows headphones at full gain | 17:48 |
| holstein | mall: sure, and would, if they were muted | 17:49 |
| holstein | mall: its *known* that ticking and unticking mute boxes help | 17:49 |
| holstein | mall: i will literally tweak *every* setting where i have mentioned | 17:49 |
| mall | in pavucontrol.... | 17:49 |
| holstein | mall: in *all* tools | 17:49 |
| mall | hmmm+ | 17:51 |
| mall | muting and unmuting internal mic does it | 17:52 |
| mall | Ô_ô | 17:52 |
| mall | puzzling | 17:52 |
| mall | but solved | 17:52 |
| holstein | mall: sure.. tweaking all the settings, is a handy way.. thats what i had assumed you had done before i suggested the /home config move | 17:52 |
| mall | thank you | 17:52 |
| drc | mall: I'd logout/in/reboot...just to make sure that the "fix" carries over. | 17:53 |
| mall | good call drc, thank you too | 17:53 |
| mall | gonna try that | 17:54 |
| xubuntu90w | good evening i was wondering if anyone could help me with somthing how do I get my wireless network working in xubuntu i get an error about kernel driver about wireless so i have no idea | 17:54 |
| drc | xubuntu90w: A bit more data would be helpful...such as what wifi chip you have, what you've done and what the exact error is. | 17:55 |
| drc | guess we'll never know :) | 17:59 |
| mucus_ | oh | 18:08 |
| mucus_ | i think i should timestamps on | 18:08 |
| mucus_ | test | 18:09 |
| mucus_ | woohoo | 18:09 |
| mucus_ | i have a run file for teamspeak but even after toggling run as executable i can't get it to do anything. | 18:17 |
| mucus_ | what can i do to make this install? | 18:17 |
| holstein | !info teamspeak | 18:18 |
| ubottu | Package teamspeak does not exist in utopic | 18:18 |
| holstein | mucus_: should still be something like http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-teamspeak-3-in-ubuntu-14-04/ | 18:18 |
| holstein | mucus_: there is a ppa.. | 18:18 |
| holstein | http://askubuntu.com/questions/531751/installed-teamspeak-3-wont-open-14-04 | 18:18 |
| holstein | mucus_: thats what i would try first.. the ppa | 18:19 |
| mucus | perfect, thanks | 18:23 |
| === mucus_ is now known as GreenCurry | ||
| rosaecaeruleae | how do I change owner of a hdd? | 19:25 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: i would use chown | 19:26 |
| holstein | or, just sudo do what i need to do | 19:26 |
| rosaecaeruleae | holstein, i need a command then | 19:27 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: try chown | 19:28 |
| rosaecaeruleae | sudo chown? | 19:28 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: there are many ways. what are you trying to do? | 19:28 |
| rosaecaeruleae | change the owner | 19:28 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: sure.. of what? | 19:29 |
| holstein | an ntfs partition? ext? in xubuntu? | 19:29 |
| holstein | !details | 19:29 |
| ubottu | Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) | 19:29 |
| rosaecaeruleae | a hdd in ext4 | 19:30 |
| rosaecaeruleae | i just created the partition with gparted | 19:30 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: http://itsfoss.com/set-write-permission-ext4-partition-ubuntu-linux/ | 19:31 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: but, you could have created it incorrectly, or other issues.. i suggest being cautious | 19:31 |
| GreenCurry | i had to hose down my system and redo it for a proper partitioning | 19:33 |
| rosaecaeruleae | i havo to cd to the directory i want to chown, right? | 19:37 |
| rosaecaeruleae | before doing it i mean | 19:37 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: just read http://itsfoss.com/set-write-permission-ext4-partition-ubuntu-linux/ and follow it | 19:38 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: thats exactly the process i would follow, to find the drive and partition i want to deal with. and the exact command | 19:38 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: to answer the question, you do *not* need to cd to it | 19:39 |
| rosaecaeruleae | jesus christ, last time I changed usernames I used sudo trhunar | 19:41 |
| rosaecaeruleae | sudo thunar | 19:41 |
| rosaecaeruleae | and then gui | 19:41 |
| rosaecaeruleae | 4 months ago | 19:41 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: gksudo thunar, likely.. but that just lets you access.. | 19:42 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: the link i gave will help you get read/write access.. permanently | 19:42 |
| holstein | you would need sudo each time the other way, and its not recommended | 19:43 |
| Executioner | if I ssh to the beach do I get a seashell? | 19:45 |
| holstein | Executioner: thats funny.. but, do use the OT channel :) | 19:46 |
| * Pici groans | 19:46 | |
| rosaecaeruleae | heh | 19:50 |
| GreenCurry | how do i force close a program? | 19:52 |
| GreenCurry | in this case i mean steam | 19:52 |
| holstein | GreenCurry: i will "ps aux" maybe something like "ps aux | grep steam" and kill by pid.. though there are other ways.. | 19:53 |
| holstein | may need to tty for that if you are in a game.. | 19:53 |
| GreenCurry | i tried killall steam | 19:53 |
| GreenCurry | but that didn't do it | 19:53 |
| holstein | GreenCurry: if its not called "steam" it sone | 19:55 |
| holstein | wont* | 19:56 |
| GreenCurry | yeah, i've figure that out now | 19:56 |
| GreenCurry | looks like pid might be 9321 | 19:56 |
| holstein | http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/846940247646813827/ | 19:56 |
| GreenCurry | killall 9321? | 19:56 |
| holstein | GreenCurry: the pid will be specific to your situation | 19:56 |
| holstein | i just try kill pid | 19:56 |
| GreenCurry | oh no all | 19:56 |
| GreenCurry | mrng | 19:57 |
| GreenCurry | it's still not dyingh | 19:57 |
| holstein | GreenCurry: it wont just die. .you have to kill it | 19:57 |
| GreenCurry | okay it won't get killed | 19:57 |
| holstein | i assume you tried " killall MainThrd" | 19:58 |
| GreenCurry | no, but will that kill everything that i have running? | 19:58 |
| holstein | GreenCurry: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/846940247646813827/ | 19:58 |
| rosaecaeruleae | holstein , what s wrong with chown -R adm:adm media/dexter/Volume65 <<? | 19:59 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: nothing, if it does what you want, and all that information, that is specific to your scenario, is correct | 19:59 |
| Executioner | or just use htop | 20:00 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: if you are trying to play some ripped video files, and getting a message, dont assume that is premission releated | 20:00 |
| holstein | !restricted | rosaecaeruleae | 20:00 |
| ubottu | rosaecaeruleae: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 20:00 |
| GreenCurry | weird, that didn't kill it either | 20:00 |
| rosaecaeruleae | no, now I need to reduce the 5% free space ext4 reserves and reduce it to 1% | 20:00 |
| rosaecaeruleae | tune2fs -m1 does nothing, can you help me with the syntacxis? | 20:25 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: what are you trying to do? | 20:26 |
| rosaecaeruleae | http://linux.die.net/man/8/tune2fs zzzz -m | 20:28 |
| rosaecaeruleae | reserved blocks | 20:28 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: why? what are you trying to do? | 20:28 |
| rosaecaeruleae | reduce it | 20:28 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: reduce what? | 20:28 |
| holstein | rosaecaeruleae: when i did, what i can only assume is what you are alluding to, i used basically this.. https://flexion.org/posts/2010-01-recovering-reserved-space-ext4.html | 20:30 |
| ylzhan | I have a problem with using my galaxy s3 mtp connection with xubuntu it's verry buggy and gparted don't detect my device | 20:30 |
| xangua | What ubuntu release? ylzhan | 20:31 |
| holstein | ylzhan: thats unfortunate.. it may not be anything that can be addressed from xubuntu | 20:31 |
| ylzhan | xubuntu 14.10 Galaxy S3 | 20:31 |
| ylzhan | it works fine with windows but in xubuntu it's buggy just to access a folder it's take 1 minute and when I try to copy it fails | 20:32 |
| xangua | Mtp should work with no issues, that's all I can say,I just connected my phone half an hour ago to transfer music | 20:33 |
| ylzhan | Yes it works but It's so buggy | 20:33 |
| ni291187 | Hier Folks | 20:33 |
| ylzhan | I force it a little bit and It just crash | 20:33 |
| ylzhan | and it does not open pictures I just have a blank photo with a cross | 20:36 |
| ylzhan | generally an usb device is mounted on /dev/sdb* right? | 20:40 |
| holstein | ylzhan: i look, each time, and see where it is | 20:41 |
| ylzhan | because when I do fdisk I haven't /dev/sdb* | 20:42 |
| ylzhan | but in Thunar I see it | 20:42 |
| holstein | ylzhan: sure. .it could be somewhere else.. | 20:44 |
| ylzhan | When I do fdisk or even when I look with Gparted I don't see my device mounted what does it mean a driver/format problem ? | 20:46 |
| holstein | ylzhan: can be | 20:47 |
| holstein | ylzhan: if its not intended to show as a device in linux.. | 20:48 |
| ylzhan | but why Thunar can open it and see it like mounted ? I don't understand | 20:48 |
| holstein | i always fiddle around and get something to work, though, these days, i dont connect wireless devices with a cable.. i'll come up with a more permanent solution, such as, just doing a proper backup of the media files | 20:48 |
| xubuntu90w | Hey everyone. I just made my first Ubuntu bootable usb stick. I am having a pretty big issue. | 21:00 |
| xubuntu90w | When I select to boot from my usb device, I get the Ubuntu starting screen with the spinning blue line segment, and it just spins and spins. I waited forty minutes and then turned on chat. Can anybody help me? | 21:02 |
| drc | xubuntu90w: Is this a LiveUSB or did you actually install Xubuntu to a USB (from a LiveCD/USB)? | 21:05 |
| xubuntu90w | Hey, can anybody see my messages? I want to make sure my pic isn't going to crash here. Anybody? | 21:05 |
| xubuntu90w | Oh thank god. | 21:06 |
| xubuntu90w | I got the xUbuntu 14.04.1 .iso and used a program to format my FD for Linux, make a bootable Linux version on it, and restarted my computer. Went to boot from the thing, and I just have an Ubuntu screen and permanent blue spin. | 21:08 |
| xubuntu90w | I tried to make a live usb and followed the instructions perfectly. | 21:09 |
| drc | xubuntu90w: What "program" did you use to format (whatever a "FD" is, I'm assuming it's a USB stick) and what did you use to "make a bootable Linux version on it"? | 21:11 |
| xubuntu90w | Flash drive, and I am rooting around for the exact file name. Just a sec | 21:12 |
| paganinibis | ciao | 21:12 |
| xubuntu90w | I used Rufus-1.4.12.exe | 21:13 |
| drc | On what OS did you do this, Windows? | 21:13 |
| xubuntu90w | The specific .iso I used was xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso | 21:14 |
| xubuntu90w | Yes, windows 7 | 21:15 |
| drc | xubuntu90w: Then I'd read this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows and follow it. Never heard of Rufus-1.4.12.exe. | 21:16 |
| xubuntu90w | I have since turned my computer back off and am in my main windows partition where I attempted the whole thing in the first place. | 21:16 |
| xubuntu90w | Rufus is what 10 different Ubuntu forums told me to use to make a bootable copy of Linux for live use so I could try it. | 21:16 |
| xubuntu442 | hi | 21:17 |
| xubuntu90w | I am waiting for my wireless card to read. | 21:18 |
| xubuntu90w | Okay, I am on the site. I have universal usb installer. It was the first program I tried to use to make my pen drive Linux. I tried it and it said I couldn't create a bootable usb. I troubleshot, and that is what led me around to rufus | 21:26 |
| xubuntu90w | like I had said before, I can get the device to read, but it just won't finish the startup process. I don't know why or how to find out why or how to fix the problem. | 21:28 |
| xubuntu90w | I thought Maybe somebody in here could help me figure it out. | 21:29 |
| holstein | !install | 21:31 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 21:31 |
| holstein | xubuntu90w: the way i have addressed that problem is, formatting the stick, fresh. checking the md5 sum of the iso i donwload | 21:31 |
| holstein | !md5 | 21:31 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 21:31 |
| holstein | and using the unetbootin tool | 21:31 |
| xubuntu90w | Installing linuxlive usb creator | 21:43 |
| holstein | xubuntu90w: cool. enjoy! and consider installing unetbootin | 21:43 |
| holstein | !info unetbootin | 21:44 |
| ubottu | unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 603-1 (utopic), package size 216 kB, installed size 839 kB | 21:44 |
| drc | xubuntu90w: MD5 will make sure that your DL of the ISO is good (nowadays it usually is). On the initial boot menu menu there also should be an item something along the lines of "check media", this will make sure that your burn of the iso to the USB is good. | 21:44 |
| ylzhan | Does xorg support well opengl to run webgl with chrome ? I have some issues but not with nvidia drivers | 21:46 |
| holstein | ylzhan: you'll need 3d driver support | 21:46 |
| xubuntu90w | Linuxlive just gave me a message saying that 14.04.1 does not support live usb boot, and it will try to install 14.10 instead. Far superior to the previous program. Whoever recommended Rufus... I'll just be polite and say nothing. | 21:47 |
| holstein | xubuntu90w: 14.04 *does* support that | 21:47 |
| holstein | xubuntu90w: so, try the other tool i reference, *after* checking the md5 sum.. unetbootin | 21:47 |
| ylzhan | holstein even with mesa-utils installed it doesn't work | 21:48 |
| holstein | ylzhan: well, mesa-utils doenst provide 3d support | 21:48 |
| holstein | ylzhan: you can try using the glxgears command, to see if you have 3d support | 21:48 |
| holstein | otherwise, i am able to use the technology where i test, where the drivers support it | 21:48 |
| ylzhan | holstein i have 3d support | 21:49 |
| holstein | ylzhan: cool.. im not sure what it is you are trying to do, but let the maintainers konw its not working for you | 21:50 |
| ylzhan | i'm trying to run archon runtime in chrome | 21:50 |
| xubuntu90w | When you say md5sum, you don't mean the .txt do you? | 21:53 |
| xubuntu90w | Because I because I can't make sense out of it. It just looks like code to me, and I'm not that good yet. | 21:53 |
| knome | !md5um | xubuntu90w | 21:54 |
| knome | !md5sum | xubuntu90w | 21:54 |
| ubottu | xubuntu90w: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 21:54 |
| knome | that | 21:54 |
| xubuntu90w | Okay, it is already installing a copy of utopic unicorn and there have been no speed bumps. I'll just try Linux with that one. | 22:08 |
| xubuntu90w | Thank you so much, everyone. I actually learned quite a bit from what you explained to me and what I read. I hope I'm capable of doing it on my own from here on out. | 22:09 |
| knome | xubuntu90w, good luck and enjoy | 22:17 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| squeegily | Removal of PulseAudio went perfectly! The only thing I had to change was I had to install xfce4-mixer and add it to the panel | 22:35 |
| squeegily | So I could control ALSA audio | 22:35 |
| squeegily | But other than that, smooth sailing | 22:35 |
| squeegily | I figured removing a component like that was going to cause all sorts of problems for me | 22:36 |
| drc | squeegily: Like I said (yesterday?), it never did cause problems for me even though all the google hits said Armageddon was around the corner :) | 22:42 |
| drc | But then my sound requirements are simple. | 22:43 |
| mucus | computers have sound? | 22:44 |
| drc | Yeah, when the hdd dies it makes a death-throttle sound. | 22:44 |
| mucus | oh yeah i know that sound | 22:44 |
| mucus | and a posix beep | 22:44 |
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