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[00:43] <Homie> anyone around?
[00:43] <teward> !anyone
[00:43] <teward> blah
[00:43] <teward> Homie: rather than asking if anone's around, ask your real question
[00:44] <Homie> lol. Yea my question is can I still rescue my windoze installation?
[00:45] <Homie> could You please have a look at it?
[00:45] <Homie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2259736
[00:47] <Homie> tward?
[00:48] <Homie> hey hggdh?
[00:51] <drkokandy> Homie: what did you do after the repair utility completed? Did you try restarting your computer?
[00:52] <wxl> i think the problem is syslinux
[00:52] <wxl> not sure how to wipe that off without causing any other mbr damage
[00:53] <Homie> yeah...I did reboot
[00:53] <Homie> the same as before, it boots straight into lubuntu when usb is connected to the laptop, just a blinking underscore if it is not
[00:55] <wxl> well Homie i hate to say it but it's a matter of figuring out syslinux
[00:55] <Homie> ok, that's a start...i'll look it up and see if i can find anything out
[00:56] <wxl> Homie:
[00:56] <wxl> what's in /boot?
[00:57] <Homie> a lot of folders and some files
[00:57] <wxl> which ones? you can `ls -R | pastebinit`
[00:57] <wxl> err
[00:57] <wxl> to be more explicit
[00:57] <wxl> `ls -R /boot | pastebinit`
[00:58] <Homie> here's the output
[00:58] <Homie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9685214/
[00:59] <wxl> uh
[00:59] <wxl> weird
[00:59] <Homie> what's up?
[01:00] <wxl> you don't have a proper grub setup
[01:00] <wxl> and there's no syslinux
[01:00] <wxl> is there a /syslinux?
[01:00] <wxl> or /syslinux.cfg?
[01:01] <Homie> no, there's not. Not in boot, neither of those
[01:01] <wxl> i mean on root
[01:01] <wxl> not /boot/syslinux
[01:01] <wxl> but /syslinux
[01:02] <wxl> you might try to `whereis syslinux` or `locate syslinux`
[01:03] <Homie> ok
[01:03] <wxl> if you get overloaded with stuff (especially with locate) you might try to append `| grep cfg`
[01:04] <Homie> yup, there's a lot of output
[01:04] <Homie> there's thre red .cfg's
[01:05] <Homie> usr/bin/grub-syslinux2cfg
[01:05] <Homie> usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/syslinuxcfg.mod
[01:06] <Homie> usr/share/man/manl/grub-syslinux2cfg.1.gz
[01:07] <wxl> yeah unfortunately none of those are what we want
[01:07] <wxl> you seem to have both an incomplete grub and an incomplete syslinux :(
[01:07] <Homie> lol...which means I'm fucked right in the down under, right?
[01:08] <wxl> !language
[01:08] <ubottu> The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[01:08] <wxl> i'm just baffled
[01:08] <wxl> i don't know how you're booting lubuntu if your stuff is broken
[01:08] <Homie> yea sorry. This thing is killing me
[01:08] <wxl> i would personally clone or backup your windows garbage, then delete the linux partition and try again
[01:08] <wxl> and make sure to get grub installed :)
[01:09] <wxl> if you have grub and can get to the grub menu, switching between os' is easy
[01:09] <drkokandy> wait, Homie- you said you're booting Lubuntu only when the USB is installed right?
[01:09] <Homie> yeah drkokandy
[01:10] <drkokandy> er, when the USB is inserted
[01:10]  * wxl facepalms
[01:10] <wxl> what happens when the usb is NOT inserted?
[01:10] <Homie> when it's not inserted a blinking underscore
[01:10] <wxl> yeah
[01:10] <wxl> backup, delete partition, reinstall
[01:10] <drkokandy> could he run Gparted from the live USB stick?
[01:10] <wxl> wait a minute
[01:11] <wxl> so all the information you've been giving me has been from the live system
[01:11] <wxl> oh jeez
[01:11] <wxl> yeah gparted would be a good way to go
[01:11] <wxl> but i'd backup/clone first
[01:11] <drkokandy> sorry just realized that might be what's happening
[01:11] <Homie> yeah, I already told you I'm writing from lubuntu
[01:11] <wxl> no i appreciate that drkokandy
[01:11] <wxl> i understood something different
[01:12] <Homie> my instructions are very vague too because I'm very , very new to linux
[01:12] <wxl> no problem
[01:12] <wxl> don't have to be an expert :)
[01:13] <Homie> looks like I can run gparted
[01:13] <wxl> yeah but that's not going to help with backup
[01:13] <wxl> that's what you need to do
[01:13] <wxl> do you have another drive?
[01:13] <wxl> you could maybe use clonezilla
[01:13] <wxl> if you don't want to back it up, you can trudge forward but you might lose stuff
[01:14] <Homie> what exactly will happen here, is my complete harddrive getting wiped out?
[01:14] <wxl> no
[01:14] <wxl> but the potential exists
[01:14] <wxl> honestly the potential existed when you were installing linux :)
[01:15] <Homie> well I got some books i'd really not like to delete. I'll try to copy them from the drive to another usb any chance this would work?
[01:15] <wxl> sure
[01:16] <wxl> you should be able to mount whatever partition you like in file manager
[01:17] <Homie> there's another thing that concerns me will my laptop boot from the CD/DVD drive?
[01:17] <wxl> sure
[01:17] <wxl> unless your bios doesn't allow it
[01:17] <wxl> i don't know of one that doesn't
[01:17] <Homie> yeah BIOS allows it, that's how I installed win 7...thank you for the help
[01:18] <wxl> sure
[01:18] <wxl> sorry i couldn't make it easier for you
[01:19] <Homie> no It's ok, I was prepared to lose windows when I started playing with linux... I just had no idea what was going on
[01:19] <wxl> hahah
[01:19] <wxl> well feel free to come back here if you need further help
[01:19] <wxl> we work hard at trying to help people transition from windows
[01:20] <wxl> so if you need suggestions for similar software we can help with that
[01:20] <wxl> as a previous windows user myself, i can tell you that you can do everything windows does and then some
[01:20] <wxl> there's always a rare exception but it usually doesn't matter too much :)
[01:21] <Homie> yeah, linux does it too I guess. It managed to make me uninstall windows the first time. Now this is a nice start right?  XD
[01:21] <wxl> hahahah
[01:21] <drkokandy> It looks like you installed Puppy on sda6
[01:21] <wxl> well it's fairly easy to access your windows shares from within linux
[01:21] <drkokandy> on your hard drive
[01:21] <drkokandy> it's weird
[01:21] <wxl> drkokandy: that's the one that's supposedly lubuntu i thought
[01:22] <drkokandy> lubuntu is sdb, his USB
[01:22] <wxl> i thought he installed lubuntu over sda6
[01:22] <Homie> no, I tried to install Puppy first, I couldn't make it work for hours then I gave it up and tried Lubuntu
[01:22] <wxl> tried does not mean installed?
[01:22] <drkokandy> Grub thinks puppy is there I think
[01:23] <Homie> well it is drkokandy
[01:23] <wxl> oh jeez
[01:23] <wxl> see why i don't like puppy? :)
[01:23] <drkokandy> but it doesn't boot when you try to turn on the PC w/o the USB? It's just a blinking cursor?
[01:24] <drkokandy> Can you get to Puppy?
[01:24] <drkokandy> It does look like your E-Book partition is still in tact
[01:24] <wxl> i gotta pick up my daughter so i'm going to leave this in your hands drkokandy
[01:24] <Homie> right. Plus when I doubble clicked tab there was a long string of characters starting with syslinux....and ending in boot:_  I guess it was expecting to enter something manually
[01:25] <drkokandy> good luck wxl
[01:25] <Homie> thnx wxl
[01:25] <Homie> have a nice one
[01:26] <drkokandy> did you set a password when you installed puppy? If I recall, you can give puppy a password to save your state on the USB...
[01:27] <Homie> yes there was an option like that
[01:27] <Homie> I'm not sure if i did though
[01:29] <drkokandy> Does puppy have a help channel? I don't know that much about it, except that their website says not to install it to a disk :-(
[01:29] <drkokandy> http://puppylinux.org/main/How%20NOT%20to%20install%20Puppy.htm
[01:30] <Homie> I've seen that drkokandy but I used the .exe (windows) installer
[01:30] <Homie> now here's how the whole thing with puppy started
[01:31] <Homie> First I tried to install it to the thumb drive, it installed correctly but when I restarted there was no option to boot from the USB flash drive
[01:32] <Homie> while I knew for a fact that it can be booted from that USB drive because I've done it before . Then I read somewhere on the interet that I should format my thumb drive as ext4/3 because it's more friendly to linux that way
[01:34] <drkokandy> booting from USB should be a BIOS setting
[01:35] <Homie> I did format it to ext4 from a ubuntu live CD but when I tried to put puppy into it (from withing windows using Universall USB installer) I couldn't because windows required the usb to be formated before use... then I made that small partition on my harddrive formated it as fat32 (all my other partitons are ntfs) and tried to install puppy on that one
[01:35] <Homie> and then this happened
[01:36] <drkokandy> I just don't know enough about Puppy Linux to know what that did to your system, but that installation to the HDD seems to be what did it
[01:36] <drkokandy> It looks like puppy linux has a help room on Freenode too
[01:37] <drkokandy> If you want, you could try asking there and see if they have any suggestions
[01:37] <Homie> didn't look for that, because I didn't know which one cause the problems, puppy or lubuntu
[01:38] <Homie> yes, I'll try my luck over there before reformating
[01:38] <drkokandy> If you want to try that, their room is #puppylinux
[01:38] <Homie> thank you very much
[01:38] <drkokandy> Okay, and if they aren't there or if they don't have ideas, we could try deleting that partition from your Lubuntu Live stick
[01:39] <drkokandy> So come back if you want to try that
[01:39] <drkokandy> (but like wxl said, that has the potential of data loss)
[01:39] <Homie> thank you. I'll come back for sure...
[01:40] <Homie> ok, if there'll be a data loss then so be it
[01:40] <drkokandy> the Lubuntu live stick could at least help you get those ebooks before you do anything drastic though
[01:41] <Homie> yes, actually those are the only important thing I don't wanna lose, anything else is not that important
[02:14] <Homie> drkonky?
[02:15] <drkokandy> yo Homie
[02:15] <drkokandy> any luck?
[02:16] <Homie> just came back to tell you that what you suggested worked better than expecte, I just formated that partitio and now I get an optio to boot to windows too
[02:16] <drkokandy> nice!
[02:17] <Homie> I still get an option to boot to Puppy even if it's wiped out but that's not a big problem I guess. Thank You very much
[02:17] <drkokandy> If you try that boot repair that the Forums suggested, that should remove them from the list
[02:17] <drkokandy> the same one you ran before
[02:18] <Homie> ok, I'll try it out again
[02:18] <drkokandy> or, if you do end up trying to install another Linux to disk [I'd recommend one that's not intended for USB Sticks :-) ] that should also remove those entries
[02:19] <drkokandy> I think
[02:19] <drkokandy> at least Lubuntu/Ubuntu would
[02:19] <Homie> XD what version would you suggest?
[02:20] <drkokandy> Gotta root for Lubuntu in this room, right? You've used it live - it runs faster if it's installed for real. I also like Ubuntu. I've tried Fedora as well, but I'm really more comfortable with a *buntu because I'm used to it
[02:21] <Homie> yes, it's very fast. It runs even from the thumb drive faster than windows
[02:22] <drkokandy> I bet. I have a few-years-old netbook-spec'd laptop that choked on Windows that runs beautifully on Ubuntu. And I run Lubuntu on a laptop from 07 :)
[02:24] <Homie> I think I'll keep lubuntu for a while and then try some other distros too but first I'll get my books to safety.
[02:25] <drkokandy> good plan - back up those things you can't lose on a secondary hard drive/computer before you experiment too much
[02:26] <Homie> Yes.  Change of subject :). Where are you from?
[02:26] <drkokandy> These kind of off-topic convos should be saved in -offtopic
[02:26] <drkokandy> you can type "/join #lubuntu-offtopic" (without the quotes) to enter that room
[02:28] <Homie> ok, just didn't know what to wish you a good night or day because it's 3:30 am here where I live, anyway thnx for the help and good luck
[02:28] <drkokandy> oh, gotcha - good night & get some rest
[02:29] <Homie> I'll keep ubuntu so won't be long until we meet again I guess. XD . Bye bye
[02:29] <drkokandy> sounds good! good luck
[05:13] <Ahmuck> is ibus and the lubuntu power manager connected via apt
[18:47] <r22ere> how do i fix this "Geany tried to access the Unix Domain socket of another instance running as another user. This is a fatal error and Geany will now quit."
[22:28] <cYmen> I just tried creating a lubuntu installation stick but it does not boot. I tried twice using the common usb-creator-gtk and lubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:28] <cYmen> Any ideas what might be wrong?
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