| bduk | good morning | 04:21 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi bduk bushtech inetpro nuvolari Squirm theblazehen Tonberry | 06:13 |
| bduk1 | More more almal | 06:23 |
| bduk1 | Jou ssd nou reg ki | 06:42 |
| bduk1 | kilos | 06:42 |
| Kilos | did werk soos n nuwe een ek dink , nog nie iets snaaks gedoen nie | 06:42 |
| bduk1 | ek is bly | 06:43 |
| bduk1 | Kan jy darem nou nog byhou, jou pc nie te vinnig vir jou nie? | 06:44 |
| bushtech | heh | 06:44 |
| Kilos | rofl | 06:47 |
| Kilos | enigste tyd wat ek sukkel met te veel spoed is by vergaderings as almal selle tyd tik | 06:48 |
| bduk1 | Darem bly om te hoor daar is net EEN ding waarmee jy stadig is. | 06:50 |
| bduk1 | Koets | 06:50 |
| bushtech | ja, maar ons ou toppies het 'n verskoning. Het nie tik op skool geneem nie. Was 'n moffie subject | 06:50 |
| bduk1 | dis hoekom ons nou tik soos n hoender wat mielies pik | 06:51 |
| bushtech | dronk hoender | 06:51 |
| bduk1 | ha ha hoe oud is jy bushtech as ek mag vra | 06:51 |
| bushtech | 59 | 06:52 |
| bushtech | en jy? | 06:52 |
| bduk1 | Ai moet ook amper vir jou oom se | 06:52 |
| bduk1 | 51 | 06:52 |
| bushtech | darem nie heeltemal nie | 06:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:58 |
| magespawn | good morning | 07:13 |
| Squirm | morning | 07:33 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 07:41 |
| Kilos | sorry was outside | 07:41 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 07:41 |
| magespawn | hi Squirm Kilos | 07:42 |
| magespawn | np Kilos, sheep? | 07:42 |
| Kilos | \ya and fowls | 07:42 |
| Kilos | there is so much green stuff now the sheeps dunno where to start | 07:43 |
| bushtech | you must maar sell a couple of skaaptjoppies before the BEE chappies decide to have a braai | 07:46 |
| Kilos | lol there are only 4 left man | 07:46 |
| Kilos | and only one still can lamb | 07:47 |
| bushtech | then the forecast for the future of your sheep population looks a bit grim | 07:49 |
| bushtech | sell the old ones & buy some lambs? | 07:51 |
| Squirm | Has anyone here used InstaDMG before? | 07:51 |
| magespawn | nope Squirm, not even sure what it is | 07:52 |
| bushtech | nope, sorry, ditto | 07:53 |
| Squirm | magespawn: it packages a customised OS X into an unbooted disk image | 07:53 |
| Kilos | yeah bush the only way is to bring in fresh ewes to start with | 07:53 |
| Squirm | kind of like a kickstart file | 07:53 |
| Squirm | I know there are some people here that have a Mac or two | 07:54 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 07:54 |
| Squirm | so just thought I'd ask | 07:54 |
| Squirm | heya superfly | 07:54 |
| superfly | hi Squirm | 07:54 |
| superfly | Squirm: never used InstaDMG | 07:54 |
| magespawn | where can you get OS X from to dp that with? | 07:55 |
| Squirm | "from to dp" ? | 07:55 |
| Squirm | oh, do | 07:56 |
| magespawn | sorry dp = do | 07:56 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:56 |
| Squirm | magespawn: you can download the installation file | 07:56 |
| Squirm | from the store | 07:56 |
| magespawn | ahh i see | 07:56 |
| Squirm | I have a Mac now :P Came with my new job | 07:56 |
| Squirm | Unable to find OS Installer disc in any provided folder: ['/Users/sinjinswanepoel/InstaDMG/InstallerFiles/InstallerDiscs', '/Users/sinjinswanepoel/InstaDMG/InstallerFiles/BaseOS'] (['InstallESD.dmg']) | 07:59 |
| Squirm | It's right there you damn application! | 07:59 |
| Squirm | it even picks it up | 07:59 |
| Squirm | superfly: I don't like python anymore ;) | 07:59 |
| superfly | Squirm: I disown you! :-P | 08:00 |
| superfly | Squirm: what are you using? | 08:00 |
| Squirm | superfly: in terms of? | 08:01 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos Squirm magespawn superfly | 08:01 |
| superfly | well, if you don't like Python, then you must be using someting "better" | 08:01 |
| superfly | hi theblazehen | 08:01 |
| magespawn | hi theblazehen | 08:01 |
| Squirm | superfly: ph, no, I use python | 08:01 |
| Squirm | s/ph/oh/ | 08:02 |
| superfly | Squirm: wait... you don't like Python, you LOVE it? | 08:02 |
| superfly | :-P | 08:02 |
| Squirm | It's my language of choice | 08:03 |
| Squirm | But it's not working in this case | 08:03 |
| superfly | what's wrong? | 08:03 |
| Squirm | InstaDMG is not finding the file that it finds :P | 08:08 |
| Squirm | I must be missing something | 08:08 |
| Squirm | It's not python, I know that | 08:11 |
| Squirm | :P | 08:11 |
| Squirm | Just found another application that might just do what I want | 08:14 |
| Squirm | Let's see | 08:14 |
| Squirm | basically looking at creating a standard image for all our machines. pre-setup for the most part and able to then use Ansible to customise other changes that we make along the way | 08:15 |
| Squirm | would be cool to start automating our OS X installations too | 08:15 |
| Kilos | Squirm not sure what you doing but can you run renastersys there | 08:18 |
| Kilos | that makes a full iso of a working pc | 08:18 |
| Squirm | Kilos: which is what? | 08:18 |
| Squirm | That's quite a cool application | 08:19 |
| Kilos | ya but no longer supported | 08:19 |
| Squirm | but can only be used on debian based OS's | 08:19 |
| Kilos | \aw | 08:20 |
| Squirm | We work our backups different;y | 08:20 |
| Kilos | python it to do the osx too | 08:20 |
| Squirm | you can do a full backup to an HDD with OS X too | 08:20 |
| Squirm | which you can then plug into another machine and do a full restore | 08:21 |
| Kilos | yeah but the remastersys tool you can go install on other pcs and have all working the same | 08:21 |
| Kilos | aha | 08:21 |
| Squirm | yep | 08:23 |
| Squirm | all our servers are backed up differently though | 08:25 |
| Squirm | Creating this disk image is taking forever :/ | 08:29 |
| magespawn | i have to draw up BYOD policy for the company and also a policy covering tablets that we are going to issue to staff | 09:14 |
| magespawn | i have googled but i was jus wondering if anyone had specific experience etc | 09:15 |
| magespawn | back again | 09:45 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 09:49 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 09:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo :) | 09:50 |
| Symmetria | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbYv5nVTzs <=== just south of mombassa :) | 09:59 |
| Symmetria | check the cool turtle! | 09:59 |
| Kilos | yo Joe_knock | 11:18 |
| Joe_knock | hey oom Kilos | 11:44 |
| nuvolari | hi oom Kilos | 14:09 |
| Kilos | mirrag nuvolari | 14:09 |
| Kilos | wbb | 14:29 |
| inetpro | good aftrernoon | 14:47 |
| bduk | afternoon | 14:49 |
| inetpro | bduk: oops, right | 14:49 |
| inetpro | fingers doing funny things | 14:50 |
| inetpro | lekker hot in Gauteng again today, Kilos must be very happy | 14:51 |
| Kilos | afternoon inetpro ya its kinda lekker | 14:51 |
| Joe_knock | this heat yoh | 14:55 |
| bduk | enjoy while it last, winter is on its way | 14:59 |
| Joe_knock | bduk: winter is far away. only april | 14:59 |
| bduk | april is not so far the way time flys its just around the corner | 15:02 |
| Squirm | home time ^^ | 15:02 |
| Squirm | Have a good evening all | 15:02 |
| bduk | same there | 15:03 |
| Kilos | eish | 15:04 |
| bduk | is it broken again kilos | 15:05 |
| Kilos | no man that word winter | 15:05 |
| Kilos | sends shivers down my spine | 15:05 |
| bduk | lekker man lekker | 15:06 |
| nuvolari | gaan dit goed oom Kilos? | 15:06 |
| nuvolari | oh hi Joe_knock, bduk, Squirm, inetpro | 15:06 |
| Joe_knock | hello nuvolari ' | 15:06 |
| bduk | hi there | 15:06 |
| Kilos | ja dankie nuvolari en daar seun? | 15:07 |
| nuvolari | dit gaan goed dankie oom Kilos :) | 15:07 |
| Kilos | mooi | 15:07 |
| inetpro | @tWeatherSA ALERT: Plenty of T-storm activity over the southern half of #Gauteng at present. Storm with showers also moving over parts of northern JHB. -- 38 mins ago | 15:33 |
| inetpro | @tWeatherSA: ALERT: #Hailstorm now moving over parts of northern #Johannesburg. Road #flooding also reported in areas. -- 10 mins ago | 15:35 |
| Joe_knock | is it heading north? inetpro | 15:35 |
| inetpro | no idea | 15:35 |
| inetpro | can't see much of it yet here in Pretoria North | 15:36 |
| inetpro | still mostly blue skies | 15:36 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 15:40 |
| Kilos | looks like its building up to the south of us | 15:41 |
| Kilos | weather liars say we got good chance of thunderstorms tonight and toimorrow | 15:56 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:01 |
| Joe_knock | Better keep watch for it. modems will go | 17:05 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 17:15 |
| Kilos | i think if we get storms it will only be late Joe_knock | 17:15 |
| Kilos | no big winds yet and clouds very far away | 17:16 |
| Kilos | actually no wind atm, | 17:18 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:18 |
| Kilos | Maaz forecast pretoria | 17:18 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 34° C., Tuesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Wednesday: Thunderstorm. High: 30° C., Wednesday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Thursday: Thunderstorm. High: 29° C., Thursday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 30° C., Friday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Saturday: Partly | 17:18 |
| Maaz | Cloudy. High: 29° C., Saturday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Pa… | 17:18 |
| Joe_knock | thunderstorm wednesday?? | 17:20 |
| Kilos | if the wind turns and blows hard it can still happen | 17:22 |
| Kilos | well it hit jhb but not us | 17:23 |
| Joe_knock | weather prediction isn't exact, thats what weather people say | 17:24 |
| Kilos | another hot one tomorrow | 17:27 |
| Kilos | 32c | 17:28 |
| Kilos | i lost my compose key hmm... | 17:29 |
| Kilos | 32°c | 17:34 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 17:54 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:54 |
| theblazehen | 32?! fml | 18:23 |
| Joe_knock | They say the hot african sun is bad for europeans :P | 18:25 |
| bduk1 | Then you must stay out of the sun | 18:26 |
| bduk1 | You must know it is hot if the dog is chasing the cat and both are walking | 18:29 |
| Kilos | rofl | 18:29 |
| Joe_knock | is that fortune cookie wisdom bduk1 :P | 18:29 |
| Kilos | europeans are peeps born in the land of pink peeps | 18:30 |
| bduk1 | What do you mean its experience | 18:30 |
| Joe_knock | oom jy sien jouself as european of african? :P | 18:32 |
| bduk1 | Where in europe are you joe--knock | 18:33 |
| Joe_knock | in gauteng | 18:34 |
| Joe_knock | aka western europe | 18:34 |
| bduk1 | Country? | 18:35 |
| Joe_knock | lets see. UK? | 18:35 |
| Joe_knock | I'd say germany is joburg | 18:35 |
| bduk1 | You lost me completely now | 18:36 |
| Joe_knock | 1 day you will understand young padawan | 18:37 |
| bduk1 | Kilos rook die ou sy sokkies of wat | 18:38 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:39 |
| Kilos | actually Joe_knock we always accepted us a being european but when you see english irish and scots on our beaches you notice a marked difference | 18:40 |
| Kilos | they go very pink and then shed their skins like snakes later on | 18:41 |
| Joe_knock | oom didn't all the english folks settle in KZN while the afrikaaners stayed in the cape and trekked to jhb?? | 18:41 |
| Kilos | ya thats right, a few of the english came to the tvl and afer a good look around said no man the van der merwes can have this | 18:42 |
| superfly | ohi | 18:42 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 18:42 |
| superfly | bwahaha Joe_knock, nice description of Gauteng | 18:43 |
| Joe_knock | you dont meet many original english folks in SA anymore. A lot of mixing with the afrikaaners. But as I understand it, the Portugese community is very *closed* still. Hulle almal bly in areas van PTA | 18:49 |
| Joe_knock | of CPT | 18:49 |
| Kilos | haha we used to mock them , shame we were bad peeps | 18:54 |
| Kilos | i have english friends in natal still that came here many years ago | 18:54 |
| Kilos | like as grownups they came | 18:55 |
| Kilos | very nice peeps | 18:55 |
| Joe_knock | they seem to prefer the humidity of natal over cape town | 18:56 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:56 |
| Kilos | and the more english environment | 18:56 |
| Kilos | they sukkel up here | 18:56 |
| superfly | Cape Town is not very English | 18:57 |
| Joe_knock | i wonder why though. natal is hot for us, it must be killer for them | 18:57 |
| Kilos | no thats very afr i think | 18:57 |
| Joe_knock | 25+ year round | 18:57 |
| Kilos | they acclimatise withing 3 years or so | 18:58 |
| Kilos | they very addaptable | 18:58 |
| Kilos | superfly that place very afr hey? | 18:58 |
| Joe_knock | sounds like the Americans who come from cold northern states and stay in the always hot areas of Thailand | 18:58 |
| Kilos | i think we i went to compete in stellenbosh bush they were all afrikaans | 18:59 |
| Kilos | lo ThatGraemeGuy | 19:10 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo | 19:10 |
| superfly | if anyone is interested, there is a team of folks putting together a bid for DebConf 16 to be held in Cape Town | 19:11 |
| Joe_knock | eeuuww debian | 19:11 |
| theblazehen | yay debian | 19:12 |
| superfly | Joe_knock: Windows Fanboi. :-P | 19:12 |
| Joe_knock | superfly: https://www.devuan.org | 19:12 |
| superfly | Joe_knock: I know | 19:13 |
| Joe_knock | due to them supporting systemd, it affected the whole ecosystem | 19:13 |
| theblazehen | I like systemd... | 19:13 |
| Joe_knock | theblazehen: It is useful for servers, but it's a monolith | 19:14 |
| theblazehen | Joe_knock: put it this way: I like the init part of it, but not so much the rest | 19:15 |
| Joe_knock | they say it keeps growing day by day? theblazehen | 19:15 |
| theblazehen | Joe_knock: AFAIK thats all the projects together | 19:16 |
| Joe_knock | that is what worries me. | 19:17 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 19:18 |
| Joe_knock | although in principal anything that can spin up servers super fast is a good thing | 19:18 |
| theblazehen | You know you can use just the init part right? | 19:18 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 19:18 |
| theblazehen | 1.6 seconds to login on my PC. Thats from kernel start | 19:18 |
| Joe_knock | thing is, we'll never know what's included as they plan on only releasing a binary with it | 19:19 |
| theblazehen | wait, what? | 19:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh good another systemd rant | 19:24 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: haha, hi | 19:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo :) | 19:25 |
| theblazehen | hi captine | 19:27 |
| captine | hi there | 19:27 |
| captine | so... proxmox wont install without much effort (doesnt recognize network on mac mini).. so i am installing 14.04 and using kvm | 19:27 |
| captine | :) | 19:27 |
| theblazehen | Its just debian though?! | 19:29 |
| theblazehen | also, you can install proxmox on debian/ubuntu | 19:30 |
| captine | yip. but it is an old kernel on the proxmox installer and is custom.. read on a site how to get it to work.. but requires building a module etc | 19:30 |
| captine | too much effort for now | 19:30 |
| captine | will wait until i get some other hardware that will be more compatible | 19:30 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 19:31 |
| captine | theblazehen, i am going to use the mac mini as my main desktop with some vm's in the background. will then give my macbook to the wife with os x on it, as her mac from 2008 is dieing | 19:31 |
| theblazehen | alright | 19:32 |
| captine | just lacks a decent monitor and no webcam... bummer | 19:32 |
| Joe_knock | ThatGraemeGuy: whos ranting? | 19:36 |
| Joe_knock | ooh macs | 19:37 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 19:48 |
| theblazehen | hi inetpro. Few hours early | 19:53 |
| * inetpro lives in the future | 19:53 | |
| theblazehen | ah nice. | 19:53 |
| theblazehen | Tell me: You go 88 miles per hour to get there, correct? | 19:53 |
| inetpro | uh, no | 19:57 |
| theblazehen | You HAVE seen back to the future, have you not? | 19:57 |
| inetpro | too long ago if I did | 19:58 |
| theblazehen | yeah.. | 19:59 |
| inetpro | Where we're going, we don't need roads | 19:59 |
| theblazehen | Thats like a MAJOR plot point.. | 20:00 |
| theblazehen | yeah, thats it! | 20:00 |
| theblazehen | remember the whole clock tower and lightening and stuff? | 20:00 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 20:04 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos | 20:05 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen what you talking about | 20:05 |
| captine | night all | 20:05 |
| Kilos | night cap | 20:05 |
| Kilos | sleep lekker | 20:05 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: a movie | 20:06 |
| Kilos | oi | 20:06 |
| Kilos | oh | 20:06 |
| Kilos | the pro dont want movies | 20:06 |
| Kilos | watch | 20:07 |
| * inetpro should check it out | 20:08 | |
| inetpro | looks interesting | 20:08 |
| magespawn | classic scifi, has to be a delorean | 20:08 |
| magespawn | inetpro you have not seen the movies? | 20:08 |
| inetpro | magespawn: what is that? | 20:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:10 |
| Kilos | aijaijai jai ai | 20:10 |
| magespawn | ah well | 20:11 |
| inetpro | can you eat it? | 20:12 |
| magespawn | that was one of my favorites growing up | 20:12 |
| magespawn | i suppose you could, might not taste nice if you cooked it wrong | 20:13 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: At least you get it! | 20:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:14 |
| inetpro | do I need git or bzr to check it out? | 20:16 |
| superfly | bwahaha | 20:16 |
| magespawn | apt-get should do | 20:17 |
| magespawn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_DMC-12 | 20:18 |
| magespawn | always had a thing for gull wing doors | 20:19 |
| magespawn | brb just going to reboot | 20:23 |
| magespawn | right, what did i miss? | 20:30 |
| magespawn | mm everyone go to sleep while i was gone? | 20:35 |
| bushtech | I think most of the usual suspects still around | 20:40 |
| inetpro | really? | 20:42 |
| theblazehen | I'm here | 20:42 |
| inetpro | bushtech: who's the suspects? | 20:42 |
| bushtech | see list down RHS :) | 20:44 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:44 |
| bushtech | haven't seen EvilDMP before | 20:45 |
| Kilos | he is in uk | 20:45 |
| bushtech | and that ubuntulog looks really suspect :) | 20:45 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 20:45 |
| inetpro | of course | 20:46 |
| Joe_knock | ive never seen some of those users on the RHS speak before | 20:55 |
| bushtech | well I do keep my trap shut on another dev irc | 20:56 |
| bushtech | mostly cos I have mo idea what they're talking about | 20:57 |
| magespawn | lol | 20:57 |
| Kilos | hahaha then i should always keep quiet | 20:58 |
| Kilos | lemme go sleep | 20:58 |
| Kilos | night everyone. sleep tight | 20:58 |
| bushtech | night Kilos | 20:59 |
| Joe_knock | bushtech: channel? | 21:00 |
| Joe_knock | night oom | 21:00 |
| bushtech | linuxmce-devel | 21:01 |
| superfly | hrm. I've seen every name in the nick list (which is on MY left, BTW) speak. I must be old. | 21:22 |
| bushtech | hrm | 21:24 |
| magespawn | it is all relative superfly | 21:26 |
| Joe_knock | even cocooncrash_ adn bmg505 and Symmetria ?? | 21:26 |
| Joe_knock | *and | 21:26 |
| inetpro | Joe_knock: yes sir | 21:27 |
| * inetpro seen those for sure | 21:27 | |
| magespawn | now i see why you guys are quiet during the day, you don't sleep | 21:30 |
| inetpro | magespawn: hmm... | 21:31 |
| inetpro | what you busy with at this hour? | 21:31 |
| magespawn | running an update on my elementary os, and i ust finished doing the some internal routing for the network | 21:32 |
| magespawn | port forwards and such | 21:32 |
| inetpro | cool | 21:32 |
| magespawn | could we get in to the regular habit of doing a tutorial session like the other night? | 21:34 |
| bushtech | it was very enlightening | 21:35 |
| superfly | I'm happy to host more. What do you want to know? | 21:36 |
| magespawn | not to be too broad, everything | 21:36 |
| bushtech | what do people have most problems with | 21:37 |
| superfly | heh | 21:37 |
| magespawn | i am busy learning how to be a system administrator and i am interested in programming but mainly in areas that help my sys admin job. i think i might like to get into writing programs but that is for later | 21:38 |
| bushtech | the field is so wide | 21:39 |
| magespawn | indeed, like i said, everything | 21:39 |
| bushtech | i'm into html/css and sql | 21:39 |
| Joe_knock | magespawn: Look into writing Python/Perl scripts then. | 21:41 |
| magespawn | i need to learn mysql specifically | 21:41 |
| magespawn | Joe_knock: that is the idea, along with bash | 21:41 |
| Joe_knock | there's just 1 problem with doing an LPiC right now. on level 1 they're currently phasing out the normal coursework for the shitware known as systemd | 21:42 |
| magespawn | i have got excellent resources here for python so i am leaning in that direction | 21:42 |
| Joe_knock | awesome magespawn. if you in joburg, you should try attending the meetups | 21:43 |
| magespawn | that is my other problem, i live in Hluhluwe | 21:44 |
| Joe_knock | farm? | 21:45 |
| magespawn | no it is actually a town, but it is about as big as bus stop | 21:45 |
| Joe_knock | surprising that you have access to adsl | 21:46 |
| Joe_knock | join the usergroups though. CTPUG and GPUG. | 21:47 |
| magespawn | good idea | 21:47 |
| inetpro | superfly: have you posted your mail yet? | 21:52 |
| * inetpro hasn't seen it | 21:52 | |
| superfly | inetpro: no | 21:53 |
| inetpro | ah | 21:53 |
| superfly | inetpro: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-za | 21:53 |
| superfly | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/bzr-tutorial/view/head:/pages/bazaar-tutorial.rst | 21:53 |
| inetpro | oh wow | 21:54 |
| inetpro | superfly: I actually started capturing relevant parts as you explained but then stopped and deleted when you said you'd post it via email | 21:56 |
| inetpro | thought a lesson like this could work well together with a collaborative editor like https://piratepad.ca/ | 21:57 |
| inetpro | but the way you've done it above is much better | 21:58 |
| magespawn | gotta go to bed, good night all | 22:02 |
| inetpro | oi! | 22:03 |
| inetpro | good night magespawn | 22:03 |
| Joe_knock | i know a nice desktop editor where you can code collab | 22:20 |
| theblazehen | Morning? | 23:24 |
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