[04:21] good morning [06:13] hi bduk bushtech inetpro nuvolari Squirm theblazehen Tonberry [06:23] More more almal [06:42] Jou ssd nou reg ki [06:42] kilos [06:42] did werk soos n nuwe een ek dink , nog nie iets snaaks gedoen nie [06:43] ek is bly [06:44] Kan jy darem nou nog byhou, jou pc nie te vinnig vir jou nie? [06:44] heh [06:47] rofl [06:48] enigste tyd wat ek sukkel met te veel spoed is by vergaderings as almal selle tyd tik [06:50] Darem bly om te hoor daar is net EEN ding waarmee jy stadig is. [06:50] Koets [06:50] ja, maar ons ou toppies het 'n verskoning. Het nie tik op skool geneem nie. Was 'n moffie subject [06:51] dis hoekom ons nou tik soos n hoender wat mielies pik [06:51] dronk hoender [06:51] ha ha hoe oud is jy bushtech as ek mag vra [06:52] 59 [06:52] en jy? [06:52] Ai moet ook amper vir jou oom se [06:52] 51 [06:53] darem nie heeltemal nie [06:58] lol [07:13] good morning [07:33] morning [07:41] hi magespawn [07:41] sorry was outside [07:41] morning superfly [07:42] hi Squirm Kilos [07:42] np Kilos, sheep? [07:42] \ya and fowls [07:43] there is so much green stuff now the sheeps dunno where to start [07:46] you must maar sell a couple of skaaptjoppies before the BEE chappies decide to have a braai [07:46] lol there are only 4 left man [07:47] and only one still can lamb [07:49] then the forecast for the future of your sheep population looks a bit grim [07:51] sell the old ones & buy some lambs? [07:51] Has anyone here used InstaDMG before? [07:52] nope Squirm, not even sure what it is [07:53] nope, sorry, ditto [07:53] magespawn: it packages a customised OS X into an unbooted disk image [07:53] yeah bush the only way is to bring in fresh ewes to start with [07:53] kind of like a kickstart file [07:54] I know there are some people here that have a Mac or two [07:54] hi Kilos [07:54] so just thought I'd ask [07:54] heya superfly [07:54] hi Squirm [07:54] Squirm: never used InstaDMG [07:55] where can you get OS X from to dp that with? [07:55] "from to dp" ? [07:56] oh, do [07:56] sorry dp = do [07:56] lol [07:56] magespawn: you can download the installation file [07:56] from the store [07:56] ahh i see [07:56] I have a Mac now :P Came with my new job [07:59] Unable to find OS Installer disc in any provided folder: ['/Users/sinjinswanepoel/InstaDMG/InstallerFiles/InstallerDiscs', '/Users/sinjinswanepoel/InstaDMG/InstallerFiles/BaseOS'] (['InstallESD.dmg']) [07:59] It's right there you damn application! [07:59] it even picks it up [07:59] superfly: I don't like python anymore ;) [08:00] Squirm: I disown you! :-P [08:00] Squirm: what are you using? [08:01] superfly: in terms of? [08:01] hi Kilos Squirm magespawn superfly [08:01] well, if you don't like Python, then you must be using someting "better" [08:01] hi theblazehen [08:01] hi theblazehen [08:01] superfly: ph, no, I use python [08:02] s/ph/oh/ [08:02] Squirm: wait... you don't like Python, you LOVE it? [08:02] :-P [08:03] It's my language of choice [08:03] But it's not working in this case [08:03] what's wrong? [08:08] InstaDMG is not finding the file that it finds :P [08:08] I must be missing something [08:11] It's not python, I know that [08:11] :P [08:14] Just found another application that might just do what I want [08:14] Let's see [08:15] basically looking at creating a standard image for all our machines. pre-setup for the most part and able to then use Ansible to customise other changes that we make along the way [08:15] would be cool to start automating our OS X installations too [08:18] Squirm not sure what you doing but can you run renastersys there [08:18] that makes a full iso of a working pc [08:18] Kilos: which is what? [08:19] That's quite a cool application [08:19] ya but no longer supported [08:19] but can only be used on debian based OS's [08:20] \aw [08:20] We work our backups different;y [08:20] python it to do the osx too [08:20] you can do a full backup to an HDD with OS X too [08:21] which you can then plug into another machine and do a full restore [08:21] yeah but the remastersys tool you can go install on other pcs and have all working the same [08:21] aha [08:23] yep [08:25] all our servers are backed up differently though [08:29] Creating this disk image is taking forever :/ [09:14] i have to draw up BYOD policy for the company and also a policy covering tablets that we are going to issue to staff [09:15] i have googled but i was jus wondering if anyone had specific experience etc [09:45] back again [09:49] hmm... [09:49] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:50] 'lo :) [09:59] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbYv5nVTzs <=== just south of mombassa :) [09:59] check the cool turtle! [11:18] yo Joe_knock [11:44] hey oom Kilos [14:09] hi oom Kilos [14:09] mirrag nuvolari [14:29] wbb [14:47] good aftrernoon [14:49] afternoon [14:49] bduk: oops, right [14:50] fingers doing funny things [14:51] lekker hot in Gauteng again today, Kilos must be very happy [14:51] afternoon inetpro ya its kinda lekker [14:55] this heat yoh [14:59] enjoy while it last, winter is on its way [14:59] bduk: winter is far away. only april [15:02] april is not so far the way time flys its just around the corner [15:02] home time ^^ [15:02] Have a good evening all [15:03] same there [15:04] eish [15:05] is it broken again kilos [15:05] no man that word winter [15:05] sends shivers down my spine [15:06] lekker man lekker [15:06] gaan dit goed oom Kilos? [15:06] oh hi Joe_knock, bduk, Squirm, inetpro [15:06] hello nuvolari ' [15:06] hi there [15:07] ja dankie nuvolari en daar seun? [15:07] dit gaan goed dankie oom Kilos :) [15:07] mooi [15:33] @tWeatherSA ALERT: Plenty of T-storm activity over the southern half of #Gauteng at present. Storm with showers also moving over parts of northern JHB. -- 38 mins ago [15:35] @tWeatherSA: ALERT: #Hailstorm now moving over parts of northern #Johannesburg. Road #flooding also reported in areas. -- 10 mins ago [15:35] is it heading north? inetpro [15:35] no idea [15:36] can't see much of it yet here in Pretoria North [15:36] still mostly blue skies [15:40] hmm... [15:41] looks like its building up to the south of us [15:56] weather liars say we got good chance of thunderstorms tonight and toimorrow [17:01] good evening [17:05] Better keep watch for it. modems will go [17:15] wb magespawn [17:15] i think if we get storms it will only be late Joe_knock [17:16] no big winds yet and clouds very far away [17:18] actually no wind atm, [17:18] hmm... [17:18] Maaz forecast pretoria [17:18] Kilos: Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 34° C., Tuesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Wednesday: Thunderstorm. High: 30° C., Wednesday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Thursday: Thunderstorm. High: 29° C., Thursday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 30° C., Friday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Saturday: Partly [17:18] Cloudy. High: 29° C., Saturday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Pa… [17:20] thunderstorm wednesday?? [17:22] if the wind turns and blows hard it can still happen [17:23] well it hit jhb but not us [17:24] weather prediction isn't exact, thats what weather people say [17:27] another hot one tomorrow [17:28] 32c [17:29] i lost my compose key hmm... [17:34] 32°c [17:54] hi Kilos [17:54] lol [18:23] 32?! fml [18:25] They say the hot african sun is bad for europeans :P [18:26] Then you must stay out of the sun [18:29] You must know it is hot if the dog is chasing the cat and both are walking [18:29] rofl [18:29] is that fortune cookie wisdom bduk1 :P [18:30] europeans are peeps born in the land of pink peeps [18:30] What do you mean its experience [18:32] oom jy sien jouself as european of african? :P [18:33] Where in europe are you joe--knock [18:34] in gauteng [18:34] aka western europe [18:35] Country? [18:35] lets see. UK? [18:35] I'd say germany is joburg [18:36] You lost me completely now [18:37] 1 day you will understand young padawan [18:38] Kilos rook die ou sy sokkies of wat [18:39] hahaha [18:40] actually Joe_knock we always accepted us a being european but when you see english irish and scots on our beaches you notice a marked difference [18:41] they go very pink and then shed their skins like snakes later on [18:41] oom didn't all the english folks settle in KZN while the afrikaaners stayed in the cape and trekked to jhb?? [18:42] ya thats right, a few of the english came to the tvl and afer a good look around said no man the van der merwes can have this [18:42] ohi [18:42] ohi superfly [18:43] bwahaha Joe_knock, nice description of Gauteng [18:49] you dont meet many original english folks in SA anymore. A lot of mixing with the afrikaaners. But as I understand it, the Portugese community is very *closed* still. Hulle almal bly in areas van PTA [18:49] of CPT [18:54] haha we used to mock them , shame we were bad peeps [18:54] i have english friends in natal still that came here many years ago [18:55] like as grownups they came [18:55] very nice peeps [18:56] they seem to prefer the humidity of natal over cape town [18:56] yeah [18:56] and the more english environment [18:56] they sukkel up here [18:57] Cape Town is not very English [18:57] i wonder why though. natal is hot for us, it must be killer for them [18:57] no thats very afr i think [18:57] 25+ year round [18:58] they acclimatise withing 3 years or so [18:58] they very addaptable [18:58] superfly that place very afr hey? [18:58] sounds like the Americans who come from cold northern states and stay in the always hot areas of Thailand [18:59] i think we i went to compete in stellenbosh bush they were all afrikaans [19:10] lo ThatGraemeGuy [19:10] 'lo [19:11] if anyone is interested, there is a team of folks putting together a bid for DebConf 16 to be held in Cape Town [19:11] eeuuww debian [19:12] yay debian [19:12] Joe_knock: Windows Fanboi. :-P [19:12] superfly: https://www.devuan.org [19:13] Joe_knock: I know [19:13] due to them supporting systemd, it affected the whole ecosystem [19:13] I like systemd... [19:14] theblazehen: It is useful for servers, but it's a monolith [19:15] Joe_knock: put it this way: I like the init part of it, but not so much the rest [19:15] they say it keeps growing day by day? theblazehen [19:16] Joe_knock: AFAIK thats all the projects together [19:17] that is what worries me. [19:18] yeah [19:18] although in principal anything that can spin up servers super fast is a good thing [19:18] You know you can use just the init part right? [19:18] yeah [19:18] 1.6 seconds to login on my PC. Thats from kernel start [19:19] thing is, we'll never know what's included as they plan on only releasing a binary with it [19:20] wait, what? [19:24] oh good another systemd rant [19:24] ThatGraemeGuy: haha, hi [19:25] 'lo :) [19:27] hi captine [19:27] hi there [19:27] so... proxmox wont install without much effort (doesnt recognize network on mac mini).. so i am installing 14.04 and using kvm [19:27] :) [19:29] Its just debian though?! [19:30] also, you can install proxmox on debian/ubuntu [19:30] yip. but it is an old kernel on the proxmox installer and is custom.. read on a site how to get it to work.. but requires building a module etc [19:30] too much effort for now [19:30] will wait until i get some other hardware that will be more compatible [19:31] yeah [19:31] theblazehen, i am going to use the mac mini as my main desktop with some vm's in the background. will then give my macbook to the wife with os x on it, as her mac from 2008 is dieing [19:32] alright [19:32] just lacks a decent monitor and no webcam... bummer [19:36] ThatGraemeGuy: whos ranting? [19:37] ooh macs [19:48] good mornings [19:53] hi inetpro. Few hours early [19:53] * inetpro lives in the future [19:53] ah nice. [19:53] Tell me: You go 88 miles per hour to get there, correct? [19:57] uh, no [19:57] You HAVE seen back to the future, have you not? [19:58] too long ago if I did [19:59] yeah.. [19:59] Where we're going, we don't need roads [20:00] Thats like a MAJOR plot point.. [20:00] yeah, thats it! [20:00] remember the whole clock tower and lightening and stuff? [20:04] lo inetpro [20:05] hi Kilos [20:05] hi theblazehen what you talking about [20:05] night all [20:05] night cap [20:05] sleep lekker [20:06] Kilos: a movie [20:06] oi [20:06] oh [20:06] the pro dont want movies [20:07] watch [20:08] * inetpro should check it out [20:08] looks interesting [20:08] classic scifi, has to be a delorean [20:08] inetpro you have not seen the movies? [20:09] magespawn: what is that? [20:10] lol [20:10] aijaijai jai ai [20:11] ah well [20:12] can you eat it? [20:12] that was one of my favorites growing up [20:13] i suppose you could, might not taste nice if you cooked it wrong [20:13] magespawn: At least you get it! [20:14] lol [20:16] do I need git or bzr to check it out? [20:16] bwahaha [20:17] apt-get should do [20:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_DMC-12 [20:19] always had a thing for gull wing doors [20:23] brb just going to reboot [20:30] right, what did i miss? [20:35] mm everyone go to sleep while i was gone? [20:40] I think most of the usual suspects still around [20:42] really? [20:42] I'm here [20:42] bushtech: who's the suspects? [20:44] see list down RHS :) [20:44] hehe [20:45] haven't seen EvilDMP before [20:45] he is in uk [20:45] and that ubuntulog looks really suspect :) [20:45] hahaha [20:46] of course [20:55] ive never seen some of those users on the RHS speak before [20:56] well I do keep my trap shut on another dev irc [20:57] mostly cos I have mo idea what they're talking about [20:57] lol [20:58] hahaha then i should always keep quiet [20:58] lemme go sleep [20:58] night everyone. sleep tight [20:59] night Kilos [21:00] bushtech: channel? [21:00] night oom [21:01] linuxmce-devel [21:22] hrm. I've seen every name in the nick list (which is on MY left, BTW) speak. I must be old. [21:24] hrm [21:26] it is all relative superfly [21:26] even cocooncrash_ adn bmg505 and Symmetria ?? [21:26] *and [21:27] Joe_knock: yes sir [21:27] * inetpro seen those for sure [21:30] now i see why you guys are quiet during the day, you don't sleep [21:31] magespawn: hmm... [21:31] what you busy with at this hour? [21:32] running an update on my elementary os, and i ust finished doing the some internal routing for the network [21:32] port forwards and such [21:32] cool [21:34] could we get in to the regular habit of doing a tutorial session like the other night? [21:35] it was very enlightening [21:36] I'm happy to host more. What do you want to know? [21:36] not to be too broad, everything [21:37] what do people have most problems with [21:37] heh [21:38] i am busy learning how to be a system administrator and i am interested in programming but mainly in areas that help my sys admin job. i think i might like to get into writing programs but that is for later [21:39] the field is so wide [21:39] indeed, like i said, everything [21:39] i'm into html/css and sql [21:41] magespawn: Look into writing Python/Perl scripts then. [21:41] i need to learn mysql specifically [21:41] Joe_knock: that is the idea, along with bash [21:42] there's just 1 problem with doing an LPiC right now. on level 1 they're currently phasing out the normal coursework for the shitware known as systemd [21:42] i have got excellent resources here for python so i am leaning in that direction [21:43] awesome magespawn. if you in joburg, you should try attending the meetups [21:44] that is my other problem, i live in Hluhluwe [21:45] farm? [21:45] no it is actually a town, but it is about as big as bus stop [21:46] surprising that you have access to adsl [21:47] join the usergroups though. CTPUG and GPUG. [21:47] good idea [21:52] superfly: have you posted your mail yet? [21:52] * inetpro hasn't seen it [21:53] inetpro: no [21:53] ah [21:53] inetpro: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-za [21:53] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/bzr-tutorial/view/head:/pages/bazaar-tutorial.rst [21:54] oh wow [21:56] superfly: I actually started capturing relevant parts as you explained but then stopped and deleted when you said you'd post it via email [21:57] thought a lesson like this could work well together with a collaborative editor like https://piratepad.ca/ [21:58] but the way you've done it above is much better [22:02] gotta go to bed, good night all [22:03] oi! [22:03] good night magespawn [22:20] i know a nice desktop editor where you can code collab [23:24] Morning?