[04:21] <bduk> good morning 
[06:13] <Kilos> hi bduk  bushtech  inetpro  nuvolari  Squirm  theblazehen  Tonberry  
[06:23] <bduk1> More more almal
[06:42] <bduk1> Jou ssd nou reg ki
[06:42] <bduk1> kilos
[06:42] <Kilos> did werk soos n nuwe een ek dink , nog nie iets snaaks gedoen nie
[06:43] <bduk1> ek is bly
[06:44] <bduk1> Kan jy darem nou nog byhou, jou pc nie te vinnig vir jou nie?
[06:44] <bushtech> heh
[06:47] <Kilos> rofl
[06:48] <Kilos> enigste tyd wat ek sukkel met te veel spoed is by vergaderings as almal selle tyd tik
[06:50] <bduk1> Darem bly om te hoor daar is net EEN ding waarmee jy stadig is.
[06:50] <bduk1> Koets
[06:50] <bushtech> ja, maar ons ou toppies het 'n verskoning. Het nie tik op skool geneem nie. Was  'n moffie subject
[06:51] <bduk1> dis hoekom ons nou tik soos n hoender wat mielies pik
[06:51] <bushtech> dronk hoender
[06:51] <bduk1> ha ha hoe oud is jy bushtech as ek mag vra
[06:52] <bushtech> 59
[06:52] <bushtech> en jy?
[06:52] <bduk1> Ai moet ook amper vir jou oom se
[06:52] <bduk1> 51
[06:53] <bushtech> darem nie heeltemal nie
[06:58] <Kilos> lol
[07:13] <magespawn> good morning
[07:33] <Squirm> morning
[07:41] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[07:41] <Kilos> sorry was outside
[07:41] <Kilos> morning superfly  
[07:42] <magespawn> hi Squirm Kilos 
[07:42] <magespawn> np Kilos, sheep?
[07:42] <Kilos> \ya and fowls
[07:43] <Kilos> there is so much green stuff now the sheeps dunno where to start
[07:46] <bushtech> you must maar sell a couple of skaaptjoppies before the BEE chappies decide to have a braai
[07:46] <Kilos> lol there are only 4 left man
[07:47] <Kilos> and only one still can lamb
[07:49] <bushtech> then the  forecast for the future of your sheep population looks a bit grim
[07:51] <bushtech> sell the old ones & buy some lambs?
[07:51] <Squirm> Has anyone here used InstaDMG before?
[07:52] <magespawn> nope Squirm, not even sure what it is
[07:53] <bushtech> nope, sorry, ditto
[07:53] <Squirm> magespawn: it packages a customised OS X into an unbooted disk image
[07:53] <Kilos> yeah bush the only way is to bring in fresh ewes to start with
[07:53] <Squirm> kind of like a kickstart file
[07:54] <Squirm> I know there are some people here that have a Mac or two
[07:54] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:54] <Squirm> so just thought I'd ask
[07:54] <Squirm> heya superfly
[07:54] <superfly> hi Squirm
[07:54] <superfly> Squirm: never used InstaDMG
[07:55] <magespawn> where can you get OS X from to dp that with?
[07:55] <Squirm> "from to dp" ?
[07:56] <Squirm> oh, do
[07:56] <magespawn> sorry dp = do
[07:56] <Kilos> lol
[07:56] <Squirm> magespawn: you can download the installation file
[07:56] <Squirm> from the store
[07:56] <magespawn> ahh i see
[07:56] <Squirm> I have a Mac now :P Came with my new job
[07:59] <Squirm> Unable to find OS Installer disc in any provided folder: ['/Users/sinjinswanepoel/InstaDMG/InstallerFiles/InstallerDiscs', '/Users/sinjinswanepoel/InstaDMG/InstallerFiles/BaseOS'] (['InstallESD.dmg'])
[07:59] <Squirm> It's right there you damn application!
[07:59] <Squirm> it even picks it up
[07:59] <Squirm> superfly: I don't like python anymore ;)
[08:00] <superfly> Squirm: I disown you! :-P
[08:00] <superfly> Squirm: what are you using?
[08:01] <Squirm> superfly: in terms of?
[08:01] <theblazehen> hi Kilos Squirm magespawn superfly
[08:01] <superfly> well, if you don't like Python, then you must be using someting "better"
[08:01] <superfly> hi theblazehen
[08:01] <magespawn> hi theblazehen 
[08:01] <Squirm> superfly: ph, no, I use python
[08:02] <Squirm> s/ph/oh/
[08:02] <superfly> Squirm: wait... you don't like Python, you LOVE it?
[08:02] <superfly> :-P
[08:03] <Squirm> It's my language of choice
[08:03] <Squirm> But it's not working in this case
[08:03] <superfly> what's wrong?
[08:08] <Squirm> InstaDMG is not finding the file that it finds :P
[08:08] <Squirm> I must be missing something
[08:11] <Squirm> It's not python, I know that
[08:11] <Squirm> :P
[08:14] <Squirm> Just found another application that might just do what I want
[08:14] <Squirm> Let's see
[08:15] <Squirm> basically looking at creating a standard image for all our machines. pre-setup for the most part and able to then use Ansible to customise other changes that we make along the way
[08:15] <Squirm> would be cool to start automating our OS X installations too
[08:18] <Kilos> Squirm  not sure what you doing but can you run renastersys there
[08:18] <Kilos> that makes a full iso of a working pc
[08:18] <Squirm> Kilos: which is what?
[08:19] <Squirm> That's quite a cool application
[08:19] <Kilos> ya but no longer supported
[08:19] <Squirm> but can only be used on debian based OS's
[08:20] <Kilos> \aw
[08:20] <Squirm> We work our backups different;y
[08:20] <Kilos> python it to do the osx too
[08:20] <Squirm> you can do a full backup to an HDD with OS X too
[08:21] <Squirm> which you can then plug into another machine and do a full restore
[08:21] <Kilos> yeah but the remastersys tool you can go install on other pcs and have all working the same
[08:21] <Kilos> aha
[08:23] <Squirm> yep
[08:25] <Squirm> all our servers are backed up differently though
[08:29] <Squirm> Creating this disk image is taking forever :/
[09:14] <magespawn> i have to draw up BYOD policy for the company and also a policy covering tablets that we are going to issue to staff
[09:15] <magespawn> i have googled but i was jus wondering if anyone had specific experience etc
[09:45] <magespawn> back again
[09:49] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:49] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :)
[09:59] <Symmetria> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbYv5nVTzs <[09:59] <Symmetria> check the cool turtle!
[11:18] <Kilos> yo Joe_knock  
[11:44] <Joe_knock> hey oom Kilos 
[14:09] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[14:09] <Kilos> mirrag nuvolari  
[14:29] <Kilos> wbb
[14:47] <inetpro> good aftrernoon
[14:49] <bduk> afternoon
[14:49] <inetpro> bduk: oops, right
[14:50] <inetpro> fingers doing funny things
[14:51] <inetpro> lekker hot in Gauteng again today, Kilos must be very happy
[14:51] <Kilos> afternoon inetpro  ya its kinda lekker
[14:55] <Joe_knock> this heat yoh
[14:59] <bduk> enjoy while it last, winter is on its way
[14:59] <Joe_knock> bduk: winter is far away. only april 
[15:02] <bduk> april is not so far the way time flys its just around the corner
[15:02] <Squirm> home time ^^
[15:02] <Squirm> Have a good evening all
[15:03] <bduk> same there
[15:04] <Kilos> eish
[15:05] <bduk> is it broken again kilos
[15:05] <Kilos> no man that word winter
[15:05] <Kilos> sends shivers down my spine
[15:06] <bduk> lekker man lekker
[15:06] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed oom Kilos?
[15:06] <nuvolari> oh hi Joe_knock, bduk, Squirm, inetpro 
[15:06] <Joe_knock> hello nuvolari '
[15:06] <bduk> hi there
[15:07] <Kilos> ja dankie nuvolari  en daar seun?
[15:07] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom Kilos :)
[15:07] <Kilos> mooi
[15:33] <inetpro> @tWeatherSA ALERT: Plenty of T-storm activity over the southern half of #Gauteng at present. Storm with showers also moving over parts of northern JHB. -- 38 mins ago
[15:35] <inetpro> @tWeatherSA: ALERT: #Hailstorm now moving over parts of northern #Johannesburg. Road #flooding also reported in areas. -- 10 mins ago
[15:35] <Joe_knock> is it heading north? inetpro 
[15:35] <inetpro> no idea
[15:36] <inetpro> can't see much of it yet here in Pretoria North
[15:36] <inetpro> still mostly blue skies
[15:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:41] <Kilos> looks like its building up to the south of us
[15:56] <Kilos> weather liars say we got good chance of thunderstorms tonight and toimorrow
[17:01] <magespawn> good evening
[17:05] <Joe_knock> Better keep watch for it. modems will go
[17:15] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[17:15] <Kilos> i think if we get storms it will only be late Joe_knock  
[17:16] <Kilos> no big winds yet and clouds very far away
[17:18] <Kilos> actually no wind atm, 
[17:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:18] <Kilos> Maaz  forecast pretoria
[17:18] <Maaz> Kilos: Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 34° C., Tuesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Wednesday: Thunderstorm. High: 30° C., Wednesday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Thursday: Thunderstorm. High: 29° C., Thursday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 30° C., Friday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Saturday: Partly
[17:18] <Maaz> Cloudy. High: 29° C., Saturday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Pa…
[17:20] <Joe_knock> thunderstorm wednesday??
[17:22] <Kilos> if the wind turns and blows hard it can still happen
[17:23] <Kilos> well it hit jhb but not us
[17:24] <Joe_knock> weather prediction isn't exact, thats what weather people say
[17:27] <Kilos> another hot one tomorrow
[17:28] <Kilos> 32c 
[17:29] <Kilos> i lost my compose key hmm...
[17:34] <Kilos> 32°c
[17:54] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[17:54] <Kilos> lol
[18:23] <theblazehen> 32?! fml
[18:25] <Joe_knock> They say the hot african sun is bad for europeans :P
[18:26] <bduk1> Then you must stay out of the sun
[18:29] <bduk1> You must know it is hot if the dog is chasing the cat and both are walking
[18:29] <Kilos> rofl
[18:29] <Joe_knock> is that fortune cookie wisdom bduk1 :P
[18:30] <Kilos> europeans are peeps born in the land of pink peeps
[18:30] <bduk1> What do you mean its experience
[18:32] <Joe_knock> oom jy sien jouself as european of african? :P
[18:33] <bduk1> Where in europe are you joe--knock
[18:34] <Joe_knock> in gauteng
[18:34] <Joe_knock> aka western europe
[18:35] <bduk1> Country?
[18:35] <Joe_knock> lets see. UK?
[18:35] <Joe_knock> I'd say germany is joburg
[18:36] <bduk1> You lost me completely now
[18:37] <Joe_knock> 1 day you will understand young padawan
[18:38] <bduk1> Kilos rook die ou sy sokkies of wat
[18:39] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:40] <Kilos> actually Joe_knock  we always accepted us a being european but when you see english irish and scots on our beaches you notice a marked difference
[18:41] <Kilos> they go very pink and then shed their skins like snakes later on
[18:41] <Joe_knock> oom didn't all the english folks settle in KZN while the afrikaaners stayed in the cape and trekked to jhb??
[18:42] <Kilos> ya thats right, a few of the english came to the tvl and afer a good look around said no man the van der merwes can have this
[18:42] <superfly> ohi
[18:42] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[18:43] <superfly> bwahaha Joe_knock, nice description of Gauteng
[18:49] <Joe_knock> you dont meet many original english folks in SA anymore. A lot of mixing with the afrikaaners. But as I understand it, the Portugese community is very *closed* still. Hulle almal bly in areas van PTA
[18:49] <Joe_knock> of CPT
[18:54] <Kilos> haha we used to mock them , shame we were bad peeps
[18:54] <Kilos> i have english friends in  natal still that came here many years ago
[18:55] <Kilos> like as grownups they came
[18:55] <Kilos> very nice peeps
[18:56] <Joe_knock> they seem to prefer the humidity of natal over cape town
[18:56] <Kilos> yeah
[18:56] <Kilos> and the more english environment
[18:56] <Kilos> they sukkel up here
[18:57] <superfly> Cape Town is not very English
[18:57] <Joe_knock> i wonder why though. natal is hot for us, it must be killer for them
[18:57] <Kilos> no thats very afr i think
[18:57] <Joe_knock> 25+ year round
[18:58] <Kilos> they acclimatise withing 3 years or so
[18:58] <Kilos> they very addaptable
[18:58] <Kilos> superfly  that place very afr hey?
[18:58] <Joe_knock> sounds like the Americans who come from cold northern states and stay in the always hot areas of Thailand
[18:59] <Kilos> i think we i went to compete in stellenbosh bush they were all afrikaans
[19:10] <Kilos> lo ThatGraemeGuy  
[19:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[19:11] <superfly> if anyone is interested, there is a team of folks putting together a bid for DebConf 16 to be held in Cape Town
[19:11] <Joe_knock> eeuuww debian
[19:12] <theblazehen> yay debian
[19:12] <superfly> Joe_knock: Windows Fanboi. :-P
[19:12] <Joe_knock> superfly: https://www.devuan.org
[19:13] <superfly> Joe_knock: I know
[19:13] <Joe_knock> due to them supporting systemd, it affected the whole ecosystem
[19:13] <theblazehen> I like systemd...
[19:14] <Joe_knock> theblazehen: It is useful for servers, but it's a monolith
[19:15] <theblazehen> Joe_knock: put it this way: I like the init part of it, but not so much the rest
[19:15] <Joe_knock> they say it keeps growing day by day? theblazehen 
[19:16] <theblazehen> Joe_knock: AFAIK thats all the projects together
[19:17] <Joe_knock> that is what worries me.
[19:18] <theblazehen> yeah
[19:18] <Joe_knock> although in principal anything that can spin up servers super fast is a good thing
[19:18] <theblazehen> You know you can use just the init part right?
[19:18] <theblazehen> yeah
[19:18] <theblazehen> 1.6 seconds to login on my PC. Thats from kernel start
[19:19] <Joe_knock> thing is, we'll never know what's included as they plan on only releasing a binary with it
[19:20] <theblazehen> wait, what?
[19:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh good another systemd rant
[19:24] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: haha, hi
[19:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :)
[19:27] <theblazehen> hi captine
[19:27] <captine> hi there
[19:27] <captine> so... proxmox wont install without much effort (doesnt recognize network on mac mini).. so i am installing 14.04 and using kvm
[19:27] <captine> :)
[19:29] <theblazehen> Its just debian though?!
[19:30] <theblazehen> also, you can install proxmox on debian/ubuntu
[19:30] <captine> yip.  but it is an old kernel on the proxmox installer and is custom.. read on a site how to get it to work.. but requires building a module etc
[19:30] <captine> too much effort for now
[19:30] <captine> will wait until i get some other hardware that will be more compatible
[19:31] <theblazehen> yeah
[19:31] <captine> theblazehen, i am going to use the mac mini as my main desktop with some vm's in the background.  will then give my macbook to the wife with os x on it, as her mac from 2008 is dieing
[19:32] <theblazehen> alright
[19:32] <captine> just lacks a decent monitor and no webcam... bummer
[19:36] <Joe_knock> ThatGraemeGuy: whos ranting?
[19:37] <Joe_knock> ooh macs
[19:48] <inetpro> good mornings
[19:53] <theblazehen> hi inetpro. Few hours early
[19:53]  * inetpro lives in the future
[19:53] <theblazehen> ah nice. 
[19:53] <theblazehen> Tell me: You go 88 miles per hour to get there, correct?
[19:57] <inetpro> uh, no
[19:57] <theblazehen> You HAVE seen back to the future, have you not?
[19:58] <inetpro> too long ago if I did
[19:59] <theblazehen> yeah..
[19:59] <inetpro> Where we're going, we don't need roads
[20:00] <theblazehen> Thats like a MAJOR plot point..
[20:00] <theblazehen> yeah, thats it!
[20:00] <theblazehen> remember the whole clock tower and lightening and stuff?
[20:04] <Kilos> lo inetpro  
[20:05] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[20:05] <Kilos> hi theblazehen   what you talking about
[20:05] <captine> night all
[20:05] <Kilos> night cap
[20:05] <Kilos> sleep lekker
[20:06] <theblazehen> Kilos: a movie
[20:06] <Kilos> oi
[20:06] <Kilos> oh
[20:06] <Kilos> the pro dont want movies
[20:07] <Kilos> watch
[20:08]  * inetpro should check it out
[20:08] <inetpro> looks interesting
[20:08] <magespawn> classic scifi, has to be a delorean 
[20:08] <magespawn> inetpro you have not seen the movies?
[20:09] <inetpro> magespawn: what is that?
[20:10] <Kilos> lol
[20:10] <Kilos> aijaijai jai ai
[20:11] <magespawn> ah well
[20:12] <inetpro> can you eat it?
[20:12] <magespawn> that was one of my favorites growing up
[20:13] <magespawn> i suppose you could, might not taste nice if you cooked it wrong
[20:13] <theblazehen> magespawn: At least you get it!
[20:14] <Kilos> lol
[20:16] <inetpro> do I need git or bzr to check it out?
[20:16] <superfly> bwahaha
[20:17] <magespawn> apt-get should do
[20:18] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_DMC-12
[20:19] <magespawn> always had a thing for gull wing doors
[20:23] <magespawn> brb just going to reboot
[20:30] <magespawn> right, what did i miss?
[20:35] <magespawn> mm everyone go to sleep while i was gone?
[20:40] <bushtech> I think most of the usual suspects still around
[20:42] <inetpro> really?
[20:42] <theblazehen> I'm here
[20:42] <inetpro> bushtech: who's the suspects?
[20:44] <bushtech> see list down RHS :)
[20:44] <Kilos> hehe
[20:45] <bushtech> haven't seen EvilDMP  before
[20:45] <Kilos> he is in uk
[20:45] <bushtech> and that ubuntulog looks really suspect :)
[20:45] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:46] <inetpro> of course
[20:55] <Joe_knock> ive never seen some of those users on the RHS speak before
[20:56] <bushtech> well I do keep my trap shut on another dev irc
[20:57] <bushtech> mostly cos I have mo idea what they're talking about
[20:57] <magespawn> lol
[20:58] <Kilos> hahaha then i should always keep quiet
[20:58] <Kilos> lemme go sleep
[20:58] <Kilos> night everyone. sleep tight
[20:59] <bushtech> night Kilos 
[21:00] <Joe_knock> bushtech: channel?
[21:00] <Joe_knock> night oom
[21:01] <bushtech> linuxmce-devel
[21:22] <superfly> hrm. I've seen every name in the nick list (which is on MY left, BTW) speak. I must be old.
[21:24] <bushtech> hrm
[21:26] <magespawn> it is all relative superfly
[21:26] <Joe_knock> even cocooncrash_ adn bmg505 and Symmetria ??
[21:26] <Joe_knock> *and
[21:27] <inetpro> Joe_knock: yes sir
[21:27]  * inetpro seen those for sure
[21:30] <magespawn> now i see why you guys are quiet during the day, you don't sleep
[21:31] <inetpro> magespawn: hmm...
[21:31] <inetpro> what you busy with at this hour?
[21:32] <magespawn> running an update on my elementary os, and i ust finished doing the some internal routing for the network
[21:32] <magespawn> port forwards and such
[21:32] <inetpro> cool
[21:34] <magespawn> could we get in to the regular habit of doing a tutorial session like the other night?
[21:35] <bushtech> it was very enlightening
[21:36] <superfly> I'm happy to host more. What do you want to know?
[21:36] <magespawn> not to be too broad, everything
[21:37] <bushtech> what do people have most problems with
[21:37] <superfly> heh
[21:38] <magespawn> i am busy learning how to be a system administrator and i am interested in programming but mainly in areas that help my sys admin job. i think i might like to get into writing programs but that is for later
[21:39] <bushtech> the field is so wide
[21:39] <magespawn> indeed, like i said, everything
[21:39] <bushtech> i'm into html/css and sql
[21:41] <Joe_knock> magespawn: Look into writing Python/Perl scripts then.
[21:41] <magespawn> i need to learn mysql specifically
[21:41] <magespawn> Joe_knock: that is the idea, along with bash
[21:42] <Joe_knock> there's just 1 problem with doing an LPiC right now. on level 1 they're currently phasing out the normal coursework for the shitware known as systemd
[21:42] <magespawn> i have got excellent resources here for python so i am leaning in that direction
[21:43] <Joe_knock> awesome magespawn. if you in joburg, you should try attending the meetups 
[21:44] <magespawn> that is my other problem, i live in Hluhluwe
[21:45] <Joe_knock> farm?
[21:45] <magespawn> no it is actually a town, but it is about as big as bus stop
[21:46] <Joe_knock> surprising that you have access to adsl 
[21:47] <Joe_knock> join the usergroups though. CTPUG and GPUG. 
[21:47] <magespawn> good idea
[21:52] <inetpro> superfly: have you posted your mail yet?
[21:52]  * inetpro hasn't seen it
[21:53] <superfly> inetpro: no
[21:53] <inetpro> ah
[21:53] <superfly> inetpro: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-za
[21:53] <superfly> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/bzr-tutorial/view/head:/pages/bazaar-tutorial.rst
[21:54] <inetpro> oh wow
[21:56] <inetpro> superfly: I actually started capturing relevant parts as you explained but then stopped and deleted when you said you'd post it via email
[21:57] <inetpro> thought a lesson like this could work well together with a collaborative editor like https://piratepad.ca/
[21:58] <inetpro> but the way you've done it above is much better
[22:02] <magespawn> gotta go to bed, good night all
[22:03] <inetpro> oi!
[22:03] <inetpro> good night magespawn
[22:20] <Joe_knock> i know a nice desktop editor where you can code collab
[23:24] <theblazehen> Morning?