| Noskcaj | Unit193, I packaged all but 2 of the christmas translation releases, a few just had bzr issues so they weren't sponsored | 01:16 |
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| Noskcaj | and my thunar branch had a bad changelog, which is now fixed | 01:17 |
| Unit193 | Debian #774747 | 05:04 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 774747 in mousepad ""Match case" and "Replace all" settings are mistakenly checked by default due to uninitialized variables" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/774747 | 05:04 |
| ochosi | humm, catfish's sidebar still isn't ideal with greybird :/ | 11:06 |
| ochosi | also doesn't work too well with numix, adwaita is ok | 11:07 |
| ochosi | (in vivid, ofc) | 11:07 |
| ochosi | meh, upower0.99 seems to be a lot slower in recognizing when my laptop gets plugged in | 11:59 |
| ochosi | or at least: xfpm + upower0.99 | 11:59 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Oh, btw. Can/should I be using xfce-4.12 PPA almost how I'm using my own xfce one? "Backporting" the vivid releases to utopic. | 12:03 |
| ochosi | yeah, that'd be nice | 12:06 |
| ochosi | at least that way we're offering a sane way for folks who are using utopic to get fixes without waiting for SRUs that might not come | 12:07 |
| ochosi | doing that for trusty as well would be good | 12:07 |
| ochosi | despite the chances of SRUs happening there being higher | 12:07 |
| Unit193 | Not sticking git snapshots in though. | 12:10 |
| Unit193 | Though I have to say, imgur support is handy dandy! | 12:10 |
| ochosi | yup, exactly, only actual releases | 12:11 |
| ochosi | and yeah, hope we get that in a stable release soonish | 12:11 |
| ochosi | i like it a lot too | 12:11 |
| ochosi | bbl | 12:15 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I've tested it now. if light-locker is set to auto lock when the screen saver activates, then the power manager won't be able to suspend/hibernate the system after inactivity | 13:20 |
| brainwash | because we already switched to vt8 | 13:21 |
| brainwash | bug 1319598 | 13:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1319598 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power manager no longer suspends 'power manager not authorised'" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1319598 | 13:21 |
| ochosi | what about late locking? | 13:21 |
| brainwash | mark as invalid and tell people to configure light-locker to auto lock when the screen saver deactivates? | 13:21 |
| brainwash | yes, late locking works fine | 13:21 |
| ochosi | right, tell them to do that then | 13:22 |
| ochosi | the other variant can't work | 13:22 |
| brainwash | ok, strangely no one has find that out yet | 13:22 |
| brainwash | another workaround mentioned in the comment section is to edit the upower policy for suspend as inactive user | 13:23 |
| brainwash | so, there is nothing to fix in our packages | 13:24 |
| ochosi | not really | 13:24 |
| brainwash | :) | 13:24 |
| ochosi | only thing we could do is make that option insensitive in xfpm | 13:25 |
| brainwash | or make late locking the default pick? | 13:25 |
| brainwash | maybe even hide the normal/instant lock mode? | 13:26 |
| brainwash | I don't know if there are any drawbacks with late looking | 13:27 |
| ochosi | not sure either tbh | 13:28 |
| ochosi | so much depends on hardware with vt switching... | 13:28 |
| ochosi | hw+drivers | 13:28 |
| brainwash | and policies | 13:29 |
| ochosi | yeah, that too | 13:29 |
| brainwash | btw while testing this stuff I was reminded of bug 1013945 | 13:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1013945 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Let user select a time of less than 15 mins idle before going to sleep" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013945 | 13:30 |
| brainwash | had to wait 15 minutes :D | 13:30 |
| ochosi | only because you didn't want to do it via xfconf i suppose | 13:32 |
| ochosi | iirc you can set a lower timeout there | 13:32 |
| brainwash | heh, but it would make sense to allow lower values | 13:32 |
| brainwash | via GUI | 13:32 |
| brainwash | for mobile devices | 13:32 |
| brainwash | oh wait, I'm confused.. it's actually fixed? | 13:34 |
| brainwash | I tested it in vivid which should ship with version 1.4 | 13:35 |
| ochosi | xfce doesn't play well on mobile devices | 13:36 |
| ochosi | at least if we have the same understanding of mobile being something !desktop && !laptop | 13:37 |
| brainwash | laptop | 13:37 |
| brainwash | it's a desktop pc actually which I'm using to test, so maybe the battery tab in xfpm allows lower values | 13:38 |
| brainwash | maybe I'll ask hjudt about this | 13:39 |
| ochosi | elfy: can you confirm that e.g. in transmission the menubar's menuitems are too wide in vivid? (padding on the left, about 16px) http://i.imgur.com/XsCjkTk.png (screenshot is with adwaita, not greybird, but the problem is the same) | 13:47 |
| ochosi | (and anyone else testing vivid ^) | 13:47 |
| elfy | can confirm | 13:49 |
| ochosi | ok ty | 13:54 |
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| ochosi | elfy: do you also see this: whiskermenu's button in the panel doesn't look "pressed" anymore when the menu is open in vivid | 16:37 |
| ochosi | bbl | 16:37 |
| elfy | ochosi: can confirm that - but then I'd not ever noticed it looking pressed before either | 17:47 |
| elfy | booted 14.04 - doesn't appear to do that there either | 18:26 |
| ochosi | elfy: weird, ok, then i'll see whether i'll report a bug | 19:59 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, Might be fixed upstream already, we're behind by two point releases | 20:02 |
| ochosi | oh | 20:03 |
| ochosi | meh, why's that? | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | no one sponsors me | 20:03 |
| ochosi | meh :/ | 20:03 |
| ochosi | why's that? | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | christmas break | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | and half of xfce's stuff breaks bzr's tarball import | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, Did you end up taking any of the new xfce releases? I've got to redo a few of mine as debdiffs | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | When does bluesabre get back? | 20:19 |
| ochosi | he said maybe thursday | 20:20 |
| ochosi | depends on when his interwebs get set up | 20:20 |
| Noskcaj | ok, i need him to sponsor a bunch of stuff that day then, since i'm away with no internet from the 10th to the 24th | 20:21 |
| ochosi | right, keeping my fingers crossed that it'll work out then | 20:29 |
| ochosi | and enjoy (what i presume is) your time off! | 20:29 |
| elfy | evening ochosi :) | 20:32 |
| ochosi | hey elfy | 20:34 |
| brainwash | ochosi: interesting new commit http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-utils/commit/?id=0f06aadc8696f3e9234687bbc93b50a3f724b822 | 20:35 |
| elfy | ochosi: when you say 'pressed' what do you actually mean? | 20:35 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: Yeah, at least the panel. | 20:35 |
| ochosi | brainwash: right, i sent that patch. rex sucks at attribution | 20:35 |
| brainwash | heh :D | 20:35 |
| ochosi | elfy: well try any other button in the panel (indicators etc), they have a special state in which they are drawn "pressed down" to give you the feedback that they're clickable | 20:36 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, Panel and indicator-plugin had source conflicts in bzr. Do you want to do both of those? I've got everything except cpufreq-plugin done | 20:36 |
| ochosi | brainwash: and he takes his time. took him only 8 months to merge that 4-liner (after having read the code almost instantaneously) | 20:37 |
| ochosi | but i won't complain, at least it's merged... | 20:37 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, Also, any progress on abiword? | 20:37 |
| ochosi | elfy: btw, i updated the fix for shaded windows and intelligent hiding a few minutes ago, should work and get merged this time ;) | 20:37 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: What do you mean? | 20:37 |
| ochosi | oh crap. there he goes. | 20:37 |
| elfy | ha ha | 20:38 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, Were you going to merge/sync it? | 20:38 |
| elfy | ochosi: unless you happen to click hexchat in the panel - that just ends up unusable :D | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | No. | 20:38 |
| Noskcaj | i'll merge the version in unstable today then | 20:39 |
| elfy | ochosi: but - yes can see what you mean now and I definitely confirm I'm not seeing that with whisker now - or indeed ever | 20:39 |
| brainwash | ochosi: it's something. I messed around a bit with xdg-screensaver to solve the "parole resets screen saver timeout to 600" bug, but I'll have to review it again | 20:40 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: Sean was going to look at the one in experimental, much more fun than unstable... | 20:40 |
| Noskcaj | ok, i'll wait till i can talk to him about it then | 20:40 |
| ochosi | elfy: btw, i updated the fix for shaded windows and intelligent hiding a few minutes ago, should work and get merged this time ;) (sorry for reposting, but you went offline when i said that) | 20:44 |
| ochosi | brainwash: ah nice | 20:44 |
| ochosi | i hope ll1.5.1 lands soon, so we can fix xdg-screensaver to work with ll | 20:44 |
| elfy | ochosi: woohoo - as soon as I see it I will test that :) | 20:45 |
| Noskcaj | If anyone wants to test gtk 3.15's current affects on our themes, ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging now has most of the gnome libs (including gtk) at 3.15.3 | 20:47 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: i seriously hope 3.16 isn't landing this cycle | 20:54 |
| ochosi | no more updating themes | 20:54 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, No, the theme breaking is too much | 20:54 |
| Unit193 | Breaking. | 20:54 |
| ochosi | and some stuff is already broken with our themes and i'm afraid nobody will fix it cause it doesn't affect unity | 20:54 |
| Noskcaj | No one has fixed half of the stuff affecting unity yet (headerbar patches, gnome-user-share being from 2011) | 20:55 |
| ochosi | for 3.14 you mean? | 20:55 |
| Noskcaj | yes | 20:56 |
| ochosi | yeah | 20:56 |
| ochosi | that's why i don't even wanna try 3.15 ;) | 20:56 |
| Noskcaj | Completely unrelated, should we turn on weather-plugin's upower support? | 20:57 |
| Unit193 | What does it add? | 21:04 |
| elfy | you can get your local temperature down to 0K I think | 21:05 |
| Noskcaj | from configure.ac "upower for adapting update interval to power state" | 21:05 |
| brainwash | I guess no.. unless someone complains that the plugin is draining his battery | 21:06 |
| Noskcaj | Could we add it to one of the ~xubuntu-dev PPAs? | 21:08 |
| Noskcaj | It would be nice to have if we can confirm it work | 21:09 |
| Noskcaj | *works | 21:09 |
| elfy | pleia2: added proposed schedule to incentive pad | 21:15 |
| pleia2 | elfy: thank you :) I'll draft up a blog post at the bottom of the pad later (you keep giving me work!) | 21:17 |
| elfy | ok - let me know and I'll give it a quick look before it's published | 21:17 |
| pleia2 | much appreciated | 21:18 |
| elfy | ok - I'll see if I can find something else for you to do | 21:19 |
| elfy | or did you not mean that :D | 21:20 |
| pleia2 | make it stop /o\ | 21:25 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 21:26 |
| elfy | :) | 21:26 |
| * Unit193 wonders if he should find something. | 21:29 | |
| knome | pleia2, feel free to ping me if/when you need help | 21:43 |
| ochosi | knome: btw, how's the development-wall coming along? | 22:07 |
| elfy | night all | 22:08 |
| knome | ochosi, what you saw is the last revision | 22:12 |
| ochosi | woot? that's it? | 22:12 |
| knome | but as i said, it's just some tweaking | 22:12 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:12 |
| knome | i'll do that once i'm better | 22:12 |
| ochosi | so not the last, but the latest | 22:12 |
| ochosi | phew | 22:12 |
| knome | hah | 22:13 |
| ochosi | Unit193: re: "train your unit", how about trying to go for upload rights to the package-set? | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I don't have many uploads. | 22:23 |
| ochosi | that could be changed | 22:23 |
| knome | yeaaaaah | 22:25 |
| slickymaster | go for it Unit193 | 22:27 |
| ochosi | just seeing how things are slowing down when bluesabre isn't around... | 22:27 |
| knome | yes, nobody can disagree that having multiple (semi-)active uploaders would be a bad thing | 22:29 |
| knome | Unit193, you know, as always, you have my full support... | 22:30 |
| Unit193 | knome: But good chances for review are great. | 22:30 |
| knome | i didn't quite follow, but if you are running for the upload rights, great ;) | 22:33 |
| ochosi | hehe, well played | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | Not right now, no. | 22:43 |
| knome | Unit193, but tomorrow, yes? | 22:44 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, You'll probably get them before me, so please try | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: You've got a lot more uploads, but yes I'll try by the end of this cycle or next cycle. | 22:50 |
| Noskcaj | I also can't attend irc meetings, and have had a few bad uploads | 22:51 |
| Noskcaj | great | 22:51 |
| knome | Noskcaj, you have my support as well :) | 22:59 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | knome: Right, but getting support from sponsors is kind of ideal. | 23:24 |
| knome | but of course | 23:34 |
| Unit193 | Hrm, our friendly neighborhood MOTU seems AFK for now. | 23:37 |
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