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[12:08] <mlankhorst> The size of mir surface doesn't change on rotate right? rotating is just a hint to client
[12:12] <alan_g> mlankhorst: right
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[13:37] <mlankhorst> hey how can I test egl debugging on the phone?
[13:38] <mlankhorst> on android it seems to be calling setprop debug.egl.trace
[13:47] <mlankhorst> ah found it, i need to use /system/bin/logcat too
[13:47] <mlankhorst> symlink in /usr/local/bin to it makes adb logcat work
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[23:21] <Saviq> hmm guys, is it normal that a dist-upgrade installs mir-client-platform-android on my desktop?
[23:22] <Saviq> had to manually install -mesa instead
[23:26] <kgunn> mmm
[23:26] <kgunn> i think we got packaging issues again somehow...
[23:26] <kgunn> RAOF: kdub ^
[23:26] <RAOF> Bah.
[23:27] <kgunn> RAOF: also...citrain upgrade-device tool....seems busted, in that the silo gets add to the device, but doesn't install packages
[23:27] <kgunn> likely due to packaging
[23:27] <kgunn> camako: ^
[23:28] <kgunn> stepping away for a bit
[23:28] <RAOF> Saviq, kgunn: Hm. So, ubuntu-touch depends on mir-graphics-drivers-android; ubuntu-desktop-next depends on mir-graphics-drivers-desktop.
[23:28] <RAOF> This seems reasonable.
[23:29] <Saviq> RAOF, might be unity-desktop-session-mir should, too
[23:29] <RAOF> Saviq: So, I think the answer is: install ubuntu-desktop-next if you want unity8 on a desktop. :)
[23:29] <Saviq> right, that works probably
[23:30] <RAOF> Alternatively, this whole problem will almost entirely go away (next ☹) release.
[23:41] <camako> kgunn, opened a bug for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1408827
[23:41] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1408827 in Mir "citrain tool cannot install Mir" [High,New]
[23:47] <Saviq> camako, is there a chance there was a new dependency somewhere?
[23:47] <Saviq> ah I see there's quote a bit of explanation
[23:47] <camako> Saviq, possibly.. our packaging changed quite a bit so...
[23:56] <RAOF> Urgh.
[23:58] <RAOF> camako: What's the expected use of citrain device-upgrade here?
[23:58] <RAOF> camako: Unless the expectation is that you then *build* something on the phone, that analysis is wrong.
[23:58] <camako> RAOF, upgrade the packages infrom a silo
[23:59] <camako> RAOF, upgrade the packages from* a silo
[23:59] <RAOF> Then I don't see how that analysis follows.