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cmaloneyEvening01:24
rick_h_party01:29
_stink_yes02:50
cmaloneyGood morning12:04
brousch__yes12:42
rick_h_morning12:42
rick_h_but ugh ugh ugh12:43
brousch__I didn't even have to use my ABS12:43
brousch__Crap. Supposed to get 9" of snow over today and tomorrow12:45
cmaloneybrousch__: yeah, we're looking for a few inches of snow13:42
cmaloneyNot looking forward to shoveling13:42
cmaloneywill wait until spring.13:42
rick_h_lovely, open weather.com to "Deep Freeze Sweeping Several States: Record Temperatures Expected"13:44
* rick_h_ notes to make sure hte snow blower is fueled and working today13:46
cmaloneyYeah, no kidding14:00
cmaloneyJoDee was upset that noaa.gov had the "chilly guy" for today.14:00
rick_h_I swear my son doesn't want to live another year.14:26
cmaloneyheh14:27
cmaloneyWhat did he do now?14:27
rick_h_threw a fit that led to saying things best not said which led to a timeout which led to just trying to poke the bear14:29
cmaloneyAh, so he's learning tact the hard way14:30
brousch__Probing the boundaries14:33
rick_h_being a whiny little snot too smart for his own good who's going to end up without a single toy in his room more like it14:34
brousch__"What would actually happen if I said x"?14:34
rick_h_the issue is he's still not learned he's got one of those stubborn "I'll do what I say" dads14:34
brousch__They hear the threats, and occasionally must see if they are not idle14:34
rick_h_and it sucked the one time I had to go into his room and find somewhere to put every stuffed animal he owned (that was last year maybe?)14:35
rick_h_only has 50 of those dippy things14:35
brousch__My goal is to never threaten a punishment that I am not actually willing to enforce14:35
rick_h_+100014:35
rick_h_it's like dog training14:35
rick_h_I swear it's so much like learning to train a dog14:35
brousch__Yes14:35
cmaloneywith a dog that is trying very hard to be smarter and more clever than you14:36
brousch__I banned my son from the movie theater for 12 months14:36
rick_h_consistent, same correction every day, inconsistent rewards to keep them wanting more...I've got a 5yr old lab and a 49yr old lab14:36
rick_h_if only the older would teach the younger14:36
cmaloney49y/o lab?14:37
rick_h_jordyn (doggy year translation)14:37
* brousch__ hopes he doesn't mean his wife14:37
cmaloneyAh14:37
rick_h_lol14:37
cmaloneyWas having trouble parsing that14:37
brousch__rick_h_: But if your son is being unusually naughty it could also be because of something unrelated that he is having trouble talking about14:40
rick_h_brousch__: no, he just had a melt down because his mom said he could play the lego batman game on his tablet but it wasn't charged14:40
brousch__It can be hard to extract the true reason for the behavior, but enlightening if you can get there14:40
rick_h_so dad had to explain it, he had meltdown, and then he had to take it 100x father than it needed to go :)14:41
brousch__Those are fun14:41
cmaloney"This wouldn't have happened had I had an iPad. Stupid Android Household"14:41
rick_h_good old fashioned case of "here's some candy...oh you can't have this candy right in front of you" and therefor...the world has ended14:41
rick_h_no, in an apple household we'd all be taking turns on the 30pin charging cable and nothing'd be charged :P14:41
cmaloneyheh14:41
brousch__I always ask him, "Do you really think this behavior/attitude is going to fix the situation?" Then toss him in his room while he contemplates it14:41
rick_h_yea, we did the "have I ever given you something you wanted because you threw a fit?" "then do you think throwing a fit is going to help you this time?"14:42
brousch__Eventually it will stick ;)14:43
rick_h_and then it turns into "I don't like this winter coat, please take it back and get me a new one"14:43
rick_h_or "I don't want to wear these shoes, I want to wear my nice ones today...in the snow/slush...they won't get dirty"14:43
rick_h_and so on and so on14:43
rick_h_wheeeeeeee14:43
rick_h_while daddy takes deep breaths "I will not just pick him up by the scruff of his neck with my one good arm and throw him into his bed!"14:44
brousch__How old is he?14:44
rick_h_:)14:44
rick_h_5 for a week14:44
brousch__Seems like 4yrs was the biggest problem for mine14:44
rick_h_yea, he's too smart for his own good but not yet bright enough to go big picture14:45
brousch__5 was similar, but the fits got shorter14:45
cmaloneyHe needs management traning14:45
rick_h_"my leg hurts, I can't put my shoes on" "if you lie to me what happens?" "well it hurts just a little bit, |-| much"14:45
rick_h_and you can hear the "now prove to me my leg doesn't hurt just a little bit daddy"14:46
brousch__Think of the patience he is teaching you14:46
rick_h_between him and work I should be giving seminars :P14:46
rick_h_and GSoC is coming again gah!14:47
rick_h_anyway, back to work now that he's left the house with mom. she can now swoop in and save the day14:48
_stink_rick_h_: haha i love it: while daddy takes deep breaths "I will not just pick him up by the scruff of his neck with my one good arm and throw him into his bed!"16:14
_stink_those are pretty much verbatim things my kid has said16:15
_stink_you are not alone16:15
brousch__No, no, you pick him up by the waist and set him in bed16:16
cmaloneyNeck is more effective IMHO16:18
cmaloney(no, I'm not serious)16:18
greg-gI see it was a "dad's vent" morning :)16:38
rick_h_it's a rick_h_ vent morning. /me needs to just go crawl back into bed16:43
greg-gI wish16:44
greg-gI mean, not you, me :P16:44
rick_h_lol16:44
rick_h_I think my next project is to start a manager support group16:44
greg-ghaha, I'll sign up16:44
rick_h_or maybe that's my startup, manager therapists16:44
greg-g"life coaches" are popular, should bank on that somehow16:45
rick_h_hmm, yea we'll go for the niche manager market16:45
rick_h_we'll need an app though16:46
greg-gleadrs.io16:46
rick_h_and a mobile plan that's VR ready16:46
rick_h_so you can use your oculus to attend support meetings16:46
rick_h_with built in hipchat backchannel communication16:46
_stink_what about hugs16:48
_stink_it needs support for hugs16:48
rick_h_some people don't like hugs I've recently found out16:48
rick_h_find them creepy16:48
greg-gI find those people creepy16:49
greg-g:)16:49
_stink_robots arms for virtual hugs16:50
brousch__hugs by proxy. You each find the nearest person to hug16:56
brousch__Uber for hugs16:56
_stink_huggr16:58
greg-g.io16:59
brousch__Looks like it's for sale http://hug.gr/17:00
brousch__Only 1000 units of some money17:00
greg-gdogecoin17:01
cmaloneyLife Coaches are so 2000s17:02
cmaloneyMaybe a Life-Guide instead17:02
cmaloneyLife-Conductor17:03
greg-gChoo Choo!17:03
cmaloneyOH, how about Life Guard. I'll bet that hasn't been thought of yet.17:03
greg-gnope, totally original17:03
cmaloneyI'm sure there will be a pool of money waiting for us. Perhaps even an ocean17:04
greg-gI'm happy with a small lake, don't want to be greedy17:07
_stink_yeah you only need a small lake for your first one17:08
_stink_you use it to fund the ocean maker17:08
greg-goh right17:09
greg-gI really hate the new floating (+) to create new whatevers on google properties (gmail phone app:new message, docs.google:new document, etc)21:35
greg-galso, seriously, their QA sucks21:44
greg-gI click on the little vertical 3 dots next to a document, click on "open in new tab" and nothing happens21:44

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