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AndChat|99281morning everyone04:14
Kilosmorning bushtech  bduk1  inetpro  and others05:08
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:19
bdukHi ThatGraemeGuy 06:35
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  07:24
ThatGraemeGuyhey Kilos 07:46
Kilosmorning superfly  08:03
Kiloswbb08:23
bdukKilos:  waar is almal vandag? dis baie stil hier11:28
ThatGraemeGuy.11:38
bdukmaaz : you there?11:39
Maazbduk: Huh?11:39
bushtechThatGraemeGuy,  don't know what 1 . means but i'll raise you 111:40
bushtech..11:40
ThatGraemeGuy.....oooooOOOOO11:40
bushtechyou win :(11:41
ThatGraemeGuymuhahahaha!11:42
inetprogood mornings14:39
bduk1Hi inetpro14:41
inetprohello bduk114:42
inetprowhy you so quiet today?14:42
bduk1The  channel was quiet14:44
* inetpro went to home affairs this morning for application of id14:45
inetprocan't believe the number of people in the queues14:45
bduk1Ish thats bad hope you took lots of patience with14:45
inetprothe process took just more than 4 hours 14:46
inetprocame like 10 minutes after opening and was like 176 in the line14:46
bduk1Ish, went to the bank this morning and a guy behind me said he went to the postofice yesterday to renew his postbox, he was seveth in the row and the gy14:48
bduk1Guy being helped took 1 hour and 15 minutes14:48
inetproai!14:48
inetproone guy completely lost it in the end14:49
inetprostarted shouting and screaming at officials, and I think it was just because he didn't bring his relevant docs14:50
bduk1I dont have patience for that, ill struggle for hours with my pc, my car my animals what ever but dont let me stand in a que.14:50
* inetpro hates queues also14:51
inetproI avoid them like a plague14:51
inetprobut sometimes you just have to go with the flow14:51
bduk1What make me angry like at our postofice, you go to renew yor licence or po box, waiting in the line for hours and when you get to the front r14:52
bduk1They tell you the system is down, why not put a not up somewhere and say whatever system is of then  i wont stand there and come back next day14:53
inetproso much that can be done to improve things14:54
bduk1True simple things14:55
inetproexactly14:55
inetprostarting with simple notice boards to inform people in the queue about relevant documents for different scenarios14:56
bduk1Yip14:56
inetproluckily info is on the web these days, but why not put it up on notice boards right there as well?14:56
bduk1Did you get the new id card14:57
inetprohas to go through a process at head office14:57
inetprotakes anything from 2 to 4 weeks IIRC14:58
inetprowill be notified by SMS to come collect 14:58
bduk1Home afairs, sars and trafic licence departme ts are the wors14:59
inetproyep, terrible14:59
inetprothough I must say that sars has become very efficient14:59
bduk1Since they went online i stay away there15:00
* inetpro actually prefers going there these days15:01
inetproyou know when you walk out of there it's all done15:01
bduk1True15:02
bduk1At least the weekend is here15:04
inetproweekend?15:04
bduk1Like Saterday and Sunday15:05
inetprohehe, we're still on Thursday man15:05
bduk1I know but only one day left15:06
inetprook15:06
bduk1Much better than four days left15:06
inetpro:-)15:09
inetproLinux Mint 17.1 Rebecca KDE Edition release today15:11
bduk1I stick with ubuntu15:35
bduk1Anyone using clearos15:37
* inetpro sticks with Kubuntu but it's always interesting to see what other distros are coming up with16:11
bushtech Kilos ! I'm afraid to ask?18:53
Kiloslolol18:55
Kilosya you should be18:55
Kilossomething funny with that ssd thing18:55
bushtechAg nee!18:55
Kiloscant even format to ext2 in 5 hours18:55
Kilosnow its out where it should have been for starters18:56
Kiloswill work on it in usb mode so i still can go on here18:57
Kilosits messed up my 1TB as well so the good 1TB kde dont even see it19:00
bushtechin that line, which is the best HD format for linux , ext2, 3 ,4 ? anybody know or tried them all?19:00
Kilos419:00
Kilosi only use ext2 with gparted because it can only check the drive in etx219:01
bushtechja, jy het seker wragtig almal probeer en nog 'n paar andr ook19:01
Kilosext4 has protection stuff built in to save drives with power cuts19:01
Kilosi forget whats its called but it safer to lose power with ext4 drives19:02
bushtechand I suppse changing formats is basically a reformat?19:02
Kilosya19:03
bushtechdon't think even ext 4 will save us from the prince of darkness19:04
Kilosyou got disk utility there19:04
Kilosand gparted19:04
Kilosext4 is the best to use19:05
Kilosfor us anyway19:05
bushtechhmm, quite chuffed, I can see that at least one of my drives in raid is ext 4 (ver 1.0)19:08
Kiloslol19:09
bushtechso do you know that there is something wrong with the ssd?19:11
Kilosthere must be, i got slower and slower and hung when copying folders and now it wont accept windows or ubuntu19:13
Kilosthe first day with kde was magic the things started taking longer to happen19:13
Kilosill move it to my old pc and see what happens there19:14
bushtechand have you got some utility that can tell you whats wrong exactly?19:14
Kilosatm i dont even want to see it19:14
Kilosi downloaded some ssd tools but i think they were on it19:15
Kiloswill look here maybe i got them here hehe19:15
Kilosya here i got a tool called samsung magician19:16
Kilosa firmware update might help. but disk utility says it good with no bad sectors19:18
bushtechthats odd then, try the firmware update19:20
Kilosi still have to learn how19:24
Kilosscared of firmware upgrading, best way to brick drives if you mess up19:25
bushtechwhere you got the firmware update there should be instructions on how to do it19:26
Kilosya i think so but all that kind of info is normally for boffins19:27
Kilosoh have you joined our mailing list19:28
Kilosour other bally needs help19:28
bushtechnope19:28
Kiloshe is older than me19:28
Kiloshttp://bit.ly/MCOujZ19:28
bushtechI'm on too many mailing lists19:28
Kiloskom kom nou19:29
Kilosours is the most important one19:29
Kilosand not often more than 5 mails a day unless there is a prob19:29
bushtechJan Greeff19:30
Kilosya19:30
Kiloshavent you had that same prob19:31
Kilosi have but forget what i did to fix it19:31
Kilosyou get 640x480 resolution19:31
bushtechwell on a monitor you could prob just press auto but on a laptop?19:32
Kilosim sure the prob is with the graphics drivers19:34
Kilosbut with that resolution you cant even see the dash to start additional drivers19:34
Kiloseish the samsung disk magician is for windows19:40
bushtechhet jy windows iewers?19:41
Kilosya19:42
Kilosmaar nie vir my lekker om dit te gebruik nie19:43
Kilosill first read up more19:43
bushtechkan hy met die cursor buttons op die groot sceen rond beweeg?19:44
Kilosek dink so ya maar dan kry jy vensters wat to groot is dat jy dit nie kan kleiner maak nie of skyf sodat jy die ok knoppie onder kan tiek nbie19:53
Kilosnie19:53
superflySo glad I have a 2TB hard drive. I just made a "video" file which is 355GB19:55
Kiloswhew19:56
bushtechisnt a bluray disc about 50Gb?19:56
Kilos?19:57
Kilosnever even seen one19:58
KilosMaaz  good blueray disk size19:58
MaazKilos: Huh?19:58
Kilosai!19:58
KilosMaaz  google  blueray disk size19:58
MaazKilos: "Blu-ray Disc - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc :: "1TB per disc: Sony and Panasonic team up on next-gen Blu-ray ..." http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/178166-1tb-per-disc-sony-and-panasonic-team-up-on-next-gen-blu-ray :: "Pioneer Increases Disc Size to 500GB - Blu-ray.com" http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1616 ::19:58
Maaz"What is Blu-ray? (Blu-ray, Blu-ray Disc, not Blue-ray or ... - Blu-ray.com" http://www.bl…19:58
Kiloslooks like 500g to 1TB19:59
Kilosbut wont be cheap i think19:59
bushtechI'm talking about bluray movie disks not storage20:00
bushtech355gb just seems huge20:00
Kilosmassive20:04
Kilosbigger than the lord of the rings trilogy20:05
superflybushtech: it's uncompressed frames20:07
Kiloshi captine  20:14
captineevening all20:15
Kilosai!20:19
Kilospoor jan struggling20:19
captine?20:20
Kilos12.4 install is hanging on the black screen that says it is 20:21
Kilosgoing down for a reboot after the fresh install. Last time it did that, 20:21
KilosI force-quit it after a while and then got "file '/boot/grub/i386 20:21
Kilos-pc/normal.mod' not found" when I tried to restart.20:21
captinenot fun.  i just finished struggling to get 14.04 working on my mac mini,=...  now i am doing the massive software installs for all the tools not included on the iso20:23
captineKilos, i wish i could help.  not sure where to start20:23
captinewhat machine is it on?20:24
Kilosits ugly when an install reboots to black screen20:24
Kilosits jan greef on the mailing list on a lappy i think20:24
captinemy mini did that on my first install.  dont think it liked my attempted btrfs home directory...20:25
KilosProline laptop20:25
Kilosif he can just get to a terminal ill get him going in sure20:26
Kilossomething wrong with ubuntu-desktop install20:29
captinecan u not pass some arguments at grub20:31
captineor does it not even get to the grub screen ?20:31
Kilosi dont know20:32
Kiloswaiting for a reply20:32
KilosIt says "grub rescue> _" (cursor) but "sudo" is "unknown command"20:33
captinemy standard is to just re-install... but might not be appropriate20:34
captinealso, not really fixing it20:34
Kiloseish i been there before20:34
captinejust covering it up20:34
Kiloshe has installed twice already20:35
captineis it a fairly new machine?20:35
captinei need to crash20:37
captinei really dislike the software centre... lol20:38
captinealways hanging on me20:38
Kilosyes software centre sucks , synaptic way better20:38
Kilosits slow as molasses as well the centre20:38
Kilosand synaptic can fix broken packages as well20:41
Kilosnight all. sleep tight21:05
Kilosohi nlsthzn  didnt see you but moeg now21:06
Kilossee ya tomorrow21:06

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