[00:31] <slaveworx> hi people!
[00:32] <slaveworx> I've been reading how to get involved in xubuntu
[00:32] <slaveworx> and I think this is definitely the best place to get started
[00:33] <slaveworx> I want to know more about how can I start
[00:34] <holstein> qa testing is an easy place to start that can really help out http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[00:35] <holstein> there are developer meetings.. you could go and introduce yourself there, and likely volunteer for something
[00:36] <holstein> what specifically are you interested in doing?
[00:41] <slaveworx> holstein: I'm learning python at the moment, and I know some intermediate Ruby
[00:41] <slaveworx> so I'm trying to get to participate in open-source projects to learn more and to help at the same time
[00:42] <slaveworx> So, anything related to app developing or anything related would be really great
[00:42] <holstein> you can also choose, for example, an upstream appliation written in python, and go to that community and assist, which would trickle into downstream xubuntu, and others
[00:43] <slaveworx> Hum, and where can I find + info on that?
[00:44] <holstein> slaveworx: well, that will depend on the project
[00:46] <slaveworx> I'll search about it ! :)
[00:46] <slaveworx> thank you for your help holstein!
[00:47] <knome> hello slaveworx and welcome
[00:47] <knome> if you want to get involved with development/writing code, bluesabre and ochosi are the right people to talk to
[00:47] <slaveworx> hi knome!
[00:47] <slaveworx> hum, that sounds good
[00:48] <slaveworx> I'll talk to them!
[00:48] <slaveworx> thank you for the tip knome
[00:48] <knome> no problem, and if you have any other questions, just ask
[00:48] <slaveworx> thank you!
[08:37] <Unit193> ochosi: So anything else "interesting" for me to do?
[09:06] <ochosi> Unit193: sorry, still too distracted on other fronts, but i'll get to you ;)
[10:46] <knome> Unit193, put AgAu on a leash? :P
[10:48] <Unit193> knome: Thought about it.
[10:49] <knome> silly Unit193 
[11:41] <ochosi> Noskcaj: looks like your whisker-upgrade already landed
[11:41] <ochosi> and the button looks pressed now
[11:41] <ochosi> elfy: ^
[12:26] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: Ping me the things that you need me to sponsor. When my internet gets activated, I'll take care of it.
[12:28] <ochosi> Unit193: wanna try to fix the xfpm build in the staging ppa?
[12:28] <ochosi> and hey bluesabre 
[12:29] <bluesabre> hey ochosi, and congrats, your nick is in my phone's autocorrect
[12:29] <ochosi> huhu, cool
[12:29] <ochosi> whyever that is :)
[12:31] <ochosi> bluesabre: we have some annoying gtk3.14 issues, parts of it are apps that are at fault
[12:31] <bluesabre> Unit193, might require you to bump the +git version, or go back to versioning upower
[12:32] <bluesabre> ochosi, can you make a list with the Dev blueprint... Along with gtk3.14
[12:32] <ochosi> yeah, that might get too messy though...
[12:33] <ochosi> i might create some sort of other list for it
[12:33] <ochosi> maybe trello
[12:33] <bluesabre> OK. Do that :-)
[12:35] <bluesabre> I meant to get that set up before my absence
[12:37] <Unit193> bluesabre: Ah, didn't look much, but kind of looked like some weird autocrap.  I'll ping you tomorrow with some things if you're still around though.  And yeah, should/will move the xfpm pkging to -dev so we can both push.
[12:39] <bluesabre> Unit193, cool
[12:45] <ochosi> bluesabre: wrote down some of my thoughts/findings on trello
[12:45] <ochosi> that should help to fix some issues
[12:46] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, olivier really added a patch to xfce4-settings to sync the xfwm4 button layout with gtk3's CSD
[12:47] <ochosi> elfy: added you to the board as well, so in case you see gtk3.14 issues that i missed or anything, you can note them there
[12:49] <bluesabre> ochosi, awesome... I was going to do that at some point too
[12:50] <ochosi> we just need a release i guess
[13:10] <elfy> ochosi: thanks
[13:11] <elfy> and button does in fact look pressed now too ;)
[13:19] <elfy> still no sound indicator thought
[13:19] <elfy> oh
[13:20] <elfy> mmm - so clicking on the empty space I get the menu - but it's not clickable at all
[18:48] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/vivid/xfce4-taskmanager/1.1.0/+merge/245535 https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/vivid/thunar/1.6.4/+merge/245533 https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/vivid/xfce4-panel/4.11.2/+merge/245531
[18:48] <Noskcaj> Please upload ignoring bzr's issues with xfce tarballs
[19:21]  * Unit193 sighs.
[19:39] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Also, UDD was having a pristine-tar issue with some of your packages and some xfce ones, if you have time to look into why, that would be great
[21:44] <ochosi> brainwash: we'll see how long it takes rex to review your patch
[21:45] <ochosi> but we can also give it some testing in xubuntu i guess
[21:50] <brainwash> ochosi: the packaging needs some attention, I think the xdg-utils package still includes an upstream patch which has been already applied to the code
[21:51] <brainwash> ochosi: also ali12341's ntp patch for gnome-system-tools
[21:51] <ochosi> yeah, i already told seb128 we should replace that with the upstream version
[21:52] <ochosi> i'm not aware of that patch
[21:52] <ochosi> to gnome-system-tools i mean
[21:53] <brainwash> bug 1270090
[21:53] <ubottu> bug 1270090 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "time-admin can not install ntp" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270090
[21:54] <brainwash> not our package, but xubuntu is the only distro which still uses this package (I think)
[21:54] <ochosi> right, i guess we need to ping around for that to get reviewed then
[21:54] <ochosi> and we might need a merge-request instead of a debdiff
[21:55] <ochosi> target will likely become vivid, tag says utopic and trusty
[21:56] <brainwash> it could be SRU'd back to trusty at least
[21:57] <Unit193> !info mate-system-tools
[21:57] <ubottu> Package mate-system-tools does not exist in utopic
[21:57] <Unit193> !info mate-system-tools vivid
[21:57] <ubottu> mate-system-tools (source: mate-system-tools): Cross-platform configuration utilities for MATE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1+dfsg1-1ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 170 kB, installed size 712 kB
[21:57] <brainwash> did they fix this?
[21:57] <brainwash> this particular problem
[22:00] <Noskcaj> brainwash, i don't think it fixes that issue, but i have a pending merge for g-s-t
[22:00] <brainwash> from debian?
[22:02] <brainwash> does some debian guy maintain this project?
[22:02] <brainwash> I thought that it's completely dead now
[22:04] <Noskcaj> brainwash, new maintainer in debian, took some of the ubuntu fixes and some new ones
[22:04] <Noskcaj> He's one of lxde's maintainers
[23:14] <ochosi> Noskcaj: so we should forward ali's patch to the debian maintainer?
[23:32] <Noskcaj> Probably