[15:46] <paulliu> elopio: hi. Want to sync the helpers details. I'm currently working on the display Indicator helper. http://people.canonical.com/~thomir/ueqa-code-proposals/proposals/indicator-display/index.html#shell-ui-test-helpers
[15:47] <paulliu> elopio: anything else I should know?
[15:58] <elopio> paulliu: it would be nice if you add a method open_display_indicator, that wraps the default open_indicator_page and returns that DisplayIndicator object.
[16:00] <paulliu> elopio: ok
[16:00] <elopio> paulliu: if you need to pair program to get started, we have scheduled some time for that. Just let me know.
[16:01] <paulliu> elopio: Cool. When is it?
[16:02] <paulliu> jfunk told me that you have a sprint next week. Is it able to participate remotely?
[16:03] <elopio> paulliu: yes. We start the sprint on monday.
[17:06] <elopio> alesage: did you finish turning jibel's document into bugs?
[17:06] <alesage> elopio, yes they're there in the doc
[17:06] <elopio> alesage: awesome, thank you.
[17:31] <alesage> elopio, what's on the top of your list today?
[17:50] <elopio> alesage: make cards in the board for each task.
[17:50] <elopio> and then, webbrowser problems.
[17:51] <alesage> elopio, ok, mind if I tag along for the webbrowser fix?
[17:51] <elopio> alesage: sure. I'll ping you  when (if) I start.
[17:51] <alesage> elopio, ok I'll dig in a little after some lunch
[17:53] <dobey> are the autopkgtests in click packages being run anywhere right now?
[17:53] <elopio> dobey: no. Jenkins runs the tests, but not using adt-run.
[17:54] <dobey> ok
[18:13] <elopio> paulliu: would you like to pair on monday?
[18:16] <dobey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9700053/
[18:17] <dobey> elopio: ^^ can you look at that? i'm wondering why those failures are happening
[18:19] <elopio> dobey:   File "/tmp/adt-run.ZG7ly5/tree/tests/autopilot/pay_ui/tests/__init__.py", line 57, in launch_installed_app
[18:19] <elopio>     raise NotImplementedError()
[18:19] <elopio> the launching method is not implemented.
[19:24] <alesage> elopio ping--I haven't run these sanity tests for a bit and I find myself waiting on a black screen for a while, am I stuck in the loop I've heard about, and what do I need to merge to fix?
[19:25] <elopio> alesage: it depends on where is the loop. Did your flashing succeed?
[19:25] <alesage> elopio, I'm a fresh flash yes, followed the instructions in jibel's doc
[19:26] <alesage> elopio, should I try again to flash?
[19:26] <elopio> alesage: that's better, just to make sure where you are.
[19:26] <elopio> flash and tell me if you end up in the wizard page.
[19:26] <alesage> ok I'll do again--wound up with wizard before though
[19:42] <alesage> elopio, seeing this on the first attempt to run after flash, but this it's adt-run's fault http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9700352 , should probably file a bug for this, recall the second attempt working in the past
[19:43] <elopio> alesage: yes, a bug sounds good.
[19:43] <alesage> elopio, k
[19:43] <elopio> alesage: also try phablet-shell.
[19:43] <alesage> elopio, yes works
[19:43] <elopio> if that works, adt should pass that step.
[19:43] <alesage> elopio, again I recall seeing this on first connect via adt-run
[19:43] <elopio> alesage: I remember about it too.
[19:49] <alesage> elopio, ok yes same result, long black screen--how long to wait?
[19:52] <elopio> alesage: does it show the unity icon spining?
[19:52] <alesage> elopio no I'm past that
[19:53] <elopio> alesage: then I have no idea what's going on. I haven't seen a fully black screen. Did you flash rtm or vivid?
[19:53] <alesage> elopio ubuntu-device-flash touch --wipe --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed --developer-mode --password=0000
[19:54] <alesage> elopio as in Jean-Baptiste's doc
[19:54] <dobey> balloons: hey. how can i run click package tests from the local tree in adt-run exactly? i'm passing "--click-source ./" but it doesn't seem to use them
[19:54] <elopio> alesage: and you are using trunk?
[19:55] <alesage> elopio, yes, just let me make sure I'm up to date on your ppa
[19:56] <elopio> alesage: and krilllin?
[19:56] <alesage> elopio, mako
[19:58] <elopio> alesage: ok, I have krillin ready, I will givve it a try there.
[19:58] <elopio> but I'm going to a meeting, I won't be able to do mako soon.
[19:59] <alesage> elopio, ok will update
[20:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi
[20:01] <alesage> elopio aha possibly a config option is interfering from your serial branch, seeing a blank warning.log, lemme investigate
[20:09] <username> testing pidgin
[20:21] <elopio> alesage: my krillin is in a black screen.
[20:21] <elopio> I'm hating this, who's breaking our tests on every friday?
[20:21] <alesage> elopio, you say that as if it were bad news
[20:21] <alesage> elopio, finding the same with clean config fwiw
[20:21] <alesage> elopio, what's our process, do you think it's a specific test?
[20:22] <alesage> elopio, do you also get a blank 'warning.log' in your dir?
[20:22] <alesage> actually this one hasn't been touched so maybe not related
[20:22] <elopio> alesage: I don't know. What I did to find the wizard getting stuck was to copy the tests to the phone, make it writable, install the deps and run one test at a time.
[20:23] <alesage> elopio, we could maybe step back a rev?  suspect any recent changes?
[20:24] <elopio> alesage: this not likely caused by our branch.
[20:24] <elopio> more likely a change in someone else's branch.
[20:24] <alesage> elopio hmpf
[20:25] <alesage> elopio, showing that we can run *any* test might help, i.e. chopping out all but one?  or better to go to the device
[20:25] <elopio> alesage: that would be helpful.
[20:25] <alesage> elopio, I'll start that way then on the device after
[21:11] <alesage> elopio saw a unity8 crash but not in successive runs, appears we just never get unity8?
[21:14] <alesage> elopio, notably setting skips on the tests does get a run so the test infrastructure isn't the culprit
[21:50] <elopio> alesage: sorry man, I won't be able to help debugging today. I need a little rest, and then many cards to fill.
[21:50] <alesage> elopio, nw, getting somewhere, will report
[21:51] <elopio> alesage: if you are putting the skip on the test, the setup will still run.
[21:51] <elopio> and generally we restart unity on the setup.
[21:51] <alesage> elopio, right but I put a skip on the whole class
[21:51] <alesage> elopio, seeing that the test passes when run from the device FWIW
[21:52] <elopio> alesage: and anyway, the first card of the following sprint is probably going to be get the suite stable, and figure out how to make sure it won't break again.
[21:52] <elopio> alesage: ok, sound like you are on the right track.
[21:52] <alesage> elopio, ok yeah I'll continue a bit here
[21:52] <elopio> please send an email to the team when you EOD, so everybody knows what's going on.
[21:52] <alesage> elopio, ok shall do
[21:53] <elopio> alesage: thank you. I'll probably see you on monday, I think I better EOD now and finish tomorrow.
[21:53] <elopio> I'll decide after a nap :)
[21:53] <alesage> elopio, ok don't work too hard ;) , enjoy the rest
[22:18] <esteban> are there public test cases available for ubuntu? if yes, where can i find them?
[22:18] <knome> iso.qa.ubuntu.com and packages.qa.ubuntu.com to begin with
[22:19] <esteban> thank you
[22:26] <balloons> esteban, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam for more info about the team, etc as well
[22:26] <elfy> evening balloons
[22:26] <balloons> evening indeed
[22:27] <balloons> how are you this evening elfy and knome? something warm and happy i hope
[22:27] <elfy> yep - good here thanks :)
[22:27] <knome> getting better from the sickness
[22:27] <knome> bought a new work desk today
[22:27] <balloons> ohh, i'm curious
[22:28] <balloons> and glad to hear you are feeling better!
[22:28] <elfy> I got an ssd and a new processor and more ram and new amp and speakers
[22:28] <elfy> no new desk though :(
[22:28] <knome> heh
[22:28] <esteban> balloons: will take a look at the link, looks helpful. thanks
[22:28] <knome> https://www.masku.com/storage/cache/img/7342417513240310458a69ae87fc2541/630x430/gisa-kulmakirjoituspoyta-musta.jpg
[22:28] <knome> that without the extension part at right
[22:28] <elfy> evening esteban - welcome to the madness
[22:29] <knome> balloons, ^
[22:31] <esteban> evening elfy
[22:31] <esteban> i ll embrace madness warmly
[22:31] <elfy> awesome :)
[22:32] <balloons> knome, simple and sleek i like it
[22:32] <balloons> esteban, haha, you'll fit right in
[22:32] <knome> balloons, yep, and tbh, there isn't much variety unless you want to pay ridiculous prices like 1500 euros...
[22:32] <esteban> jajaja, i ll give my best :p
[22:33] <balloons> i had planned to make a desk. one long sheet of plywood against the entire wall of my office
[22:33] <knome> balloons, something like that would be awesome.
[22:34] <knome> well, not the whole wall
[22:34] <knome> but a simple piece of wood
[22:34] <elfy> I still want to do a standing desk
[22:34] <elfy> easy enough - just being bothered
[22:34] <knome> i'd like one that can alternate between standing and sitting
[22:34] <balloons> knome, :-) my office is cozy, i could easily cover a wall and have it be almost std desk size
[22:34] <elfy> knome: that's called a really extendable stool
[22:34] <knome> i have a relatively cozy office as well
[22:35] <knome> elfy, lol
[22:35] <knome> but i don't have much wallspace, i have my record shelves here
[22:35] <balloons> lol elfu
[22:35] <knome> and the boardgame cabinet
[22:35] <elfy> my desk is in the corner of the living room - need to have comfy chairs too
[22:35] <balloons> ahh yes. boardgames are in the other room
[22:35] <knome> i like the mancaviness of this room though
[22:35] <balloons> i played so many boardgames over the holidays.. quite nice
[22:36] <knome> and i don't need anything too fancy
[22:36] <knome> this table has just been here for ever
[22:36] <knome> well, here
[22:36] <knome> and the previous apartment
[22:36] <balloons> yep. simple simple. a comfy chair is a must ofc
[22:36] <knome> and my room in my childhood home
[22:36] <knome> a comfy wooden top kitchen chair it is then ;)
[22:36] <knome> good for the buttocks
[22:36] <knome> ;)=
[22:36] <balloons> :p
[22:37] <knome> tbe, this is a better chair than many office chairs i've sat in during my life
[22:37] <knome> and doesn't allow you to sit for hours and hours - which is a plus...
[22:37] <balloons> mm.. forces, nay "enables" you to take breaks
[22:37] <balloons> good idea
[22:38] <balloons> speakning of which, the sun is setting, i must get a walk in
[22:38] <knome> and i'm also lazy to find a good office chair
[22:38] <knome> and they are rare here
[22:38] <knome> looked for one today as well but.. nah
[22:38] <balloons> they are $$ here as anywhere i'd guess
[22:38] <balloons> i use what i have on hand
[22:38] <knome> true, but also hard hard to find
[22:38] <knome> i can't buy a regular office chair
[22:38] <knome> they'll tear apart in no time
[22:39] <balloons> i've gone through several hand me downs that way
[22:39] <knome> have been too lazy to do exercise as well i guess :P
[22:39] <knome> lazy is the keyword
[22:39] <knome> the main reason i want to change my desk
[22:39] <balloons> ahh.. don't get too lazy, but do enjoy friday night :-)
[22:40] <knome> it makes a "knack" sound when i lay my hand on it
[22:40] <knome> ARGH!
[22:40] <knome> try to focus here
[22:42] <elfy> a chair that causes you to get up and wander off is a good thing imo
[22:42] <knome> yep
[22:42] <elfy> I'd never move ...
[22:42] <knome> and at the same time, which gives you *good* support for your back
[22:42] <knome> this definitely does it
[22:43] <knome> and we actually just went and bought two more of these today
[22:43] <knome> now we have 6, so enough to fill our extended kitchen table
[22:43] <elfy> room for elfy for an evening then :D
[22:43] <knome> but we normally don't use >4 chairs, so i can keep one here without carrying it around all the time
[22:43] <knome> lol
[22:43] <knome> always room for elfy
[22:43] <elfy> ha ha - good planning there
[22:43] <elfy> one day knome :)
[22:43] <knome> and here's what i think is the awesome thing
[22:44] <knome> i've always hated when friends come over
[22:44] <knome> and one sits in the comfy office chair
[22:44] <knome> and tells the friend "get a chair"
[22:44] <knome> now when i tell them that, they get to match my chair
[22:44] <knome> so nobody in the comfy chair
[22:44] <elfy> :)
[22:44] <knome> equality++
[22:45] <knome> and i can't stress this enough, these are awesome chairs
[22:45] <elfy> :)
[22:45] <knome> https://masku.com/storage/12/media/2014/08/merlyn-tuoli-pz-hkinz.jpg
[22:45] <knome> that back support is just how it should for me
[22:45] <elfy> oh yea - like that
[22:45] <knome> which is rare given my weird back
[22:46] <elfy> I try not to sit back tbh - sit as vertical as I can
[22:46] <knome> well i *try* to sit ergonomically
[22:46] <knome> and then i end up in a C-shaped position
[22:46] <elfy> too much slouching for me leads to crashing on the floor screaming - not the best :p
[22:46] <knome> lol
[22:47] <Patrickdk> http://www.lovesac.com/sacs/supersac/owl-phur-supersac-package.html
[22:47] <Patrickdk> I worked on one of those for 2 months
[22:47] <Patrickdk> I didn't leave it for anything
[22:47] <elfy> neither would I :)
[22:48] <knome> ouch
[22:48] <knome> that shouts back pain to me
[22:48] <knome> i'm sure it's comfy and all but...
[22:48] <Patrickdk> I don't have back pain
[22:48] <Patrickdk> only shoulder pain
[22:48] <elfy> mind you - if I'd been on the floor screaming I probably couldn't get out :)
[22:48] <knome> i do - even without that :D
[22:48] <elfy> ha
[22:51] <elfy> http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/20141209191523.php
[22:51] <elfy> old photo - no baccy anywhere anymore :p
[22:52] <knome> ooh, extending shelf
[22:52] <knome> i just thought that would be cool if i actually liked books
[22:52] <knome> :P
[22:52] <elfy> heh
[22:52] <knome> too much stuff here now
[22:53] <knome> but i'll take a photo when i get the new desk from the storehouse
[22:53] <elfy> I've got through 3 of those desk bits in 2 years
[22:53] <knome> and have cleaned up :P
[22:53] <knome> ouch...
[22:53] <elfy> ha ha
[22:53] <knome> so is it falling of the shelf?
[22:53] <elfy> £40 or so
[22:53] <knome> or what happens
[22:53] <elfy> nope - they collapse in the middle - not real wood - ikea ;)
[22:54] <knome> ohh
[22:54] <knome> dang
[22:54] <knome> i don't think my new desk (or the current definitely not) is real wood either
[22:54] <elfy> well - one was perhaps my fault - it is a desk and not a step ladder
[22:54] <knome> but sure, it doesn't get the weight like that
[22:54] <knome> this one has a supporting steel bar
[22:54] <knome> which i suppose helps
[22:54] <elfy> one elfy knee - one collapsed desk
[22:54] <knome> ugh
[22:54] <knome> :D
[22:55] <elfy> one shouting elfy :)
[22:55] <knome> yep
[22:55] <knome> or in other words
[22:55] <knome> desk 1 - elfy 0
[22:55] <knome> that armchair does look good
[22:55] <knome> not quite my style, but close
[22:56] <knome> someday i will buy a stylish black leather armchair
[22:56] <elfy> I love that chair and the other and the 8' sofa
[22:56] <knome> and a stool
[22:56] <knome> that'll finish off my office
[22:56] <knome> but that day might be in 10 years
[22:56] <knome> nonetheless
[22:57] <elfy> free (ish) xmas bonus from an old boss - only person to make me feel small
[22:57] <knome> :)
[22:57] <knome> nice
[22:57] <elfy> only chairs I have ever really been comfortable in :)