[01:34] <dmiroshn> Hello, may I ask help with postfix + dovecot here?
[01:35] <sarnold> dmiroshn: welcome to irc; it typically works best if you just ask questions and hang around for a while :) asking if you can ask just adds delays..
[01:47] <dmiroshn> I used https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html for postfix and dovecot setup. I pretty sure that I did what that page suggests. However, when finished I cannot neither receive nor send emails. Is it complete guide? Should I try something else? Should I install dovecot-imapd as well?
[01:49] <sarnold> dmiroshn: email is very complicated these days, it isn't as easy to run as it once was
[01:49] <sarnold> dmiroshn: break the problem apart into small steps -- telnet to the smtp port, try to deliver mail by hand, use tail -F to watch the log files while you do it, and verify that the mail is accepted ...
[01:50] <sarnold> dmiroshn: .. and take small steps, focus on one problem at a time, either sending, or receiving, or retrieving, and keep an eye on the log files.
[02:23] <alreece45> dmiroshn, generic email pointers: MX records, reverse PTR records, SPF records, DKIM/DomainKeys, blacklist check
[03:30] <dmiroshn> When I am trying to send email via "openssl s_client -crlf -connect <my.domain>:465". I got the following error "Recipient address rejected: Access denied". May one check my "postconf -n" settings http://pastebin.com/WQp8k6X5 to help figure out what's wrong?
[03:40] <ikonia> dmiroshn: it means the email address you are trying to send to is not on the mail server you are connecting to
[03:52] <dmiroshn> ikonia
[03:52] <dmiroshn> ikonia: Do you want say that recipient email is incorrect? It should not be the case because it's my gmail account that I frequently use.
[04:00] <ikonia> dmiroshn: right, so your server won't host gmail
[04:01] <ikonia> dmiroshn: I would assume you're machine is not setup as a relay host
[04:02] <dmiroshn> ^ Please ignore my last (fixed) question.
[05:41] <Quoexl> anyone here dealt with apache openmeetings?
[09:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:05] <Quoexl> EHLO
[09:06] <Quoexl> I have some pent up rage in me today, apache openmeetings is a booger to install
[09:07] <Quoexl> yet my googly client insists that we must have this pronto
[10:58] <kblin> hi folks
[10:58] <kblin> I'm trying to install ubuntu-server on a system with EFI boot off a hardware raid
[11:04] <RoyK> kblin: should work...
[11:50] <kblin> RoyK: sorry, was dragged off to lunch :)
[11:51] <kblin> for some reason the installer keeps installing the boot loader into the partition that has /boot instead of using the MBR
[11:51] <kblin> and then the system fails to boot
[11:53] <RoyK> hm... not good
[11:53] <RoyK> don't know why, though
[12:36] <oopaine> hi@ll, i like to know how to get the fingerprint of my SSL-certificate via SSH .... SHA256 and SHA1 .... what are the commands??
[12:37] <rbasak> oopaine: "openssl x509 -fingerprint -noout -in foo.pem". Or something like that.
[12:37] <rbasak> See the x509 manpage for details.
[12:37] <kblin> it's one of the x509 options, for sure
[12:40] <oopaine> okay, thx for this faaast answer. :)
[13:11] <oopaine> bb.
[13:13] <kblin> ok, even with default settings for everything I can't get that stupid EFI install to boot
[13:25] <optrusty> Ok Hi, Guys I just installed Trusty yesterday and I went through the steps of connecting to a Wi-Fi Network when I did I had to attempt 3 times to connect to my personal wifi network with the right password. Now, This morning I tried pinging google as a test if the internet is working and it wasn't. I even checked ifconfig, Nothing
[13:28] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: Can you paste the output of `ip addr`?
[13:29] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke I will try ssh via ethernet
[13:34] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke So I searched and I couldn't get an IP for wlan0
[13:35] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke Let me try checking /etc/network/interfaces
[13:36] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke In the network interfaces there is only the loopback network
[13:39] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: Server, or desktop?
[13:40] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke Ubuntu Server
[13:40] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke I would be in #ubuntu by now
[13:45] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: Oops, didn't notice which channel I was in.
[13:45] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke No Prob
[13:46] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: What steps did you take to try to connect to the network?
[13:51] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke I am going to try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[14:16] <zul> jamespage:  can you take a quick look http://paste.ubuntu.com/9698561/ (im concenered about the debian/control file)
[14:19] <jamespage> zul, you need Breaks/Replaces; python{3}-oslo.i18n (<< 1.3.0-0ubuntu1) as I think it still provides oslo.* links for backwards compat right?
[14:19] <zul> right
[14:20] <jamespage> zul, does it? this is quite important - if not then we need to holdup the renames until after kilo-2 releases
[14:21] <zul> jamespage:  there is an oslo.i18n and a oslo_i18n
[14:21] <zul> so both namespaces are there
[14:25] <zul> jamespage:  better? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9698591/
[14:40] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke ping
[14:43] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: Pong.
[14:44] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: (Generally it's better to just tell me what you're going to tell me; saves a round trip :) )
[14:45] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke It's a waste of time if you are away
[14:45] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke That's why I like to check if some is home :)
[14:45] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: Nope, I'll always see the message.
[14:45] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: Furthermore, if other people are following along, they may be able to jump in and help you. :)
[14:48] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke Anyway I am doing a fresh reinstall after there was a little incident with over writing the interfaces file
[14:49] <Odd_Bloke> optrusty: :D
[14:49] <optrusty> Odd_Bloke My passion for GUIs are gone :( It is really hard to use cli and not be clumsy
[14:50] <zul> jamespage:  ping looked ok?
[14:52] <jamespage> zul, that looks OK
[14:52] <zul> jamespage:  thanks
[14:52] <jamespage> zul, are you happy this won't break all the kilo-1 uploads?
[14:52] <zul> jamespage:  yeah im sure it wont
[15:20] <zul> jamespage:  just running the tests for kilo-1 with  a newer i18n just to make sure
[15:20] <jamespage> zul, +1
[15:20] <jamespage> sounds good
[16:09] <coreycb> jamespage, zul: systemd enablement for ceilometer - https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ceilometer/systemd/+merge/245973
[16:09] <coreycb> jamespage, the templates approach is really nice
[16:20] <coreycb> jamespage, oh shoot, I see Didier already merged systemd for ceilometer
[16:20] <jamespage> coreycb, yeah I spoke with him - just rebase you changes ontop of his and drop the specific bits he added
[16:20] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[16:29] <CluelessPerson> I have a problem installing Ubuntu-Server.  It keeps installing Grub to the USB as SDA
[16:32] <Eggs_> CluelessPerson: only grub? is ubuntu installed to the disk?
[16:36] <CluelessPerson> Eggs_:   it seems only the grub, yes
[16:36] <CluelessPerson> Eggs_:   I just attempted to do sudo shutdown now
[16:37] <CluelessPerson> Eggs_: it's failing to even shutdown
[16:37]  * CluelessPerson shutoff the computer physically and restarts to see if it boots...
[16:37] <CluelessPerson> Eggs_:   I ran the command     > sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:37] <CluelessPerson> Eggs_: That seems to have fixed the boot problem
[16:38] <CluelessPerson> Eggs_: Now the next problem is that it won't shutdown,  it fails something, goes to root user, and waits.
[16:38]  * CluelessPerson runs > sudo shutdown now    
[16:39] <CluelessPerson> Eggs_: it goes to the purplish Ubuntu 14.04 splash screen, then lists the normal line
[16:39] <CluelessPerson> root@host:~#
[16:39] <CluelessPerson> awaiting my entering whatever
[16:41] <Eggs_> is that the root user just for the install?
[17:40] <rostam> HI I am using ubuntu 14.04. I do not understand the propose of the /etc/rc.d/rc.driverUpdate? thx
[18:07] <coreycb> jamespage, in case you're not eod, can we get ironic and horizon merged (2015.1~b1-0ubuntu1)?
[19:31] <rostam> HI I am using ubuntu 14.04. How can I control sequence of kernel loadable module when they are getting loaded? thanks
[19:34] <sarnold> rostam: that sounds like solving a problem that shouldn't exist
[19:38] <genii> rostam: What is the exact issue you are having which makes you ask this question?
[19:53] <bekks> rostam: What are you traxing to achieve?
[19:59] <rostam> All, we have a video driver from AMD which we need to run a script before that driver is loaded. Is there a way I can do that please? thanks
[19:59] <rostam> The driver name is flgrx.
[19:59] <rostam> fglrx
[20:02] <mdeslaur> rostam: modify the udev rule that loads the module to run a script instead?
[20:02] <sarnold> rostam: hmm, it's kind of ugly, but you could stick the fglrx module into a /etc/modprobe.d/ blacklist, then make an initscript that runs the script you want and runs modprobe fglrx manually -- which I believe will ksip the blacklists
[20:03] <bekks> rostam: Modify the udev rule to run a script, which loads the module as last command.
[20:04] <genii> I think bekks has the more elegant solution
[20:05] <mdeslaur> hey, I want my cookie, I said it first :)
[20:05]  * genii slides mdeslaur a chocolate chip cookie and a fresh coffee
[20:05]  * bekks hands mdeslaur a cookie :)
[20:05] <mdeslaur> \o/
[20:05] <mdeslaur> :)
[20:07] <rostam> thank you I will try all your suggestions and will report the outcome. Thanks
[20:16] <Aison> hello, somehow my isc-dhcp-server6 sucks
[20:16] <Aison> when I start it, it uses 100% cpu time
[20:17] <pmatulis> Aison: check logs
[20:17] <Aison> nothing in the logs
[20:17] <Aison> no errors...
[20:17] <Aison> but I just found this one: 1971953593 Jan  8 20:41 dhcpd6.leases
[20:22] <Aison> what's wrong here?!?
[20:22] <Aison> lolo
[20:24] <pmatulis> Aison: use diagnostic tools (strace, perf)
[20:28] <sarnold> I could swear I thought I read a bug report with an eerily similar description but I can't find the thing in my archives
[20:33] <a|3x> hi
[20:35] <a|3x> is there a filesystem that can be used to efficiently store incremental changes to files, for a set period of time perhaps, that can be used as an incremental backup solution possibly?
[20:39] <Aison> I deleted the leases file and then I can start dhcpv6 without having 100% cpu load
[20:39] <qman__> a|3x: ZFS using snapshots, compression, and deduplication, but be aware that it requires enterprise hardware and large amounts of RAM
[20:40] <Aison> the leases file contains "endless" many equal entries
[20:41] <a|3x> qman__, enterprise hardware?
[20:42] <qman__> a|3x: ECC RAM, TLER disks at a minimum
[20:42] <a|3x> qman__, why?
[20:43] <qman__> It is extremely sensitive to flipped bits, data integrity is a core design feature of ZFS and it doesn't work properly without it
[20:43] <qman__> In practice your system will crash a lot
[20:44] <patdk-wk> tler disks are not needed
[20:44] <patdk-wk> but if you expect to have any kind of quality of service, you need it
[20:44] <a|3x> qman__, well, i do have ecc ram where i want to use it and raid 10, but i only plan to use it for backups (to be able to look at changes over time)
[20:45] <qman__> ZFS replaces RAID
[20:45] <qman__> It performs its own form of it
[20:45] <patdk-wk> zfs isn't the solution you want then, likely
[20:45] <a|3x> i see there are some other solutions here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versioning_file_system
[20:46] <a|3x> ext3cow, etc
[20:46] <a|3x> are any of these good?
[20:46] <patdk-wk> versioning filesystems isn't exactly what you want for a *backup* system
[20:46] <patdk-wk> unless these backups are tiny, and change a lot
[20:47] <a|3x> well i want high granularity snapshots basically
[20:47] <qman__> Where I am unable to use ZFS, I manage the backup versions via rsync trees
[20:47] <qman__> E.g. rsnapshot
[20:47] <patdk-wk> but *snapshots* depend on how data gets put on it
[20:47] <patdk-wk> snapshots don't like you puttings *new* backups onto it
[20:47] <patdk-wk> it perfers you to change the existing ones
[20:47] <patdk-wk> otherwise you will be looking at something that is designed to do dedup at it's core
[20:48] <patdk-wk> but we will need a much better definition of what is *backups* in this case, to answer
[20:48] <a|3x> patdk-wk, yes, i want to change filesystem over time and have snapshots and able to clone fs from snapshot or something like this
[20:49] <patdk-wk> so it's really not a backup? but the production system?
[20:49] <patdk-wk> or the backups just happen to be lots of tiny files that don't change often
[20:49] <patdk-wk> then snapshots would be fine
[20:49] <a|3x> also, would be nice to have a human readable log of which files changed in which snapshot
[20:49] <Aison> oh, now i've got several 100 of these messages per second in my syslog file, caused by dhcp6
[20:49] <Aison> Jan  9 21:49:01 inetserv dhcpd: Renew message from fe80::3ed9:2bff:fea1:f066 port 546, transaction ID 0xD19A2B00
[20:49] <Aison> Jan  9 21:49:01 inetserv dhcpd: Sending Reply to fe80::3ed9:2bff:fea1:f066 port 546
[20:49] <rberg-> a|3x you can do similar things in userspace on any FS, rdiff-backup is one way.
[20:50] <rberg-> does it have to be on the FS layer?
[20:50] <a|3x> rberg-, but is that going to be efficient enough? i would imagine fs layer may be much more efficient with less copies of same blocks
[20:51] <rberg-> I suppose a backup will have t copy every block at least once, from there its a delta
[20:51] <qman__> a|3x: it is fairly space efficient but slow
[20:51] <a|3x> patdk-wk, it is a backup system, i would like to rsync production system to it and create snapshots for future potential use
[20:52] <patdk-wk> normally rsync and snapshots don't work
[20:52] <patdk-wk> cause rsync will change the WHOLE file
[20:52] <patdk-wk> not just the part that changed
[20:52] <qman__> a|3x: most of my production backups are rsync copies hardlinked together
[20:52] <patdk-wk> but if that is *acceptable*
[20:52] <rberg-> if it has to be a FS I would use zfs. while it likes lots of ram it doesnt seem to require it, at least when I ran it
[20:53] <patdk-wk> rberg-, depends on many things
[20:53] <patdk-wk> but you really want your metadata that you use to fit in ram
[20:53] <rberg-> true, I didnt de-dupe
[20:53] <patdk-wk> if it doesn't you kindof get screwed
[20:53] <patdk-wk> dedup will just screw you, no matter what you do :)
[20:53] <qman__> a|3x: ZFS is the only filesystem level way I know of to do dedupe and snapshots well
[20:53] <a|3x> patdk-wk, how do you hardlink rsync backups?
[20:53] <patdk-wk> I don't
[20:53] <qman__> There are dedupe layer tools
[20:54] <rberg-> ram use did get pretty high when I started playing with zil and l2arc, but I never got OOM kills so it must give the ram back fine
[20:54] <patdk-wk> l2arc can't give the ram back
[20:54] <a|3x> oops, qman__, how do you hardlink rsync backups?
[20:54] <rberg-> something did :)
[20:54] <patdk-wk> normally using l2arc unless you have >40gigs of ram, is a mistake
[20:55] <rberg-> yeah, in my case thats true.. my workload didnt benefit from it.. (also a backup destination)
[20:55] <qman__> a|3x: a custom script that stores backups in directories by date, with the --link-dest parameter
[20:55] <qman__> Rsnapshot does this
[20:56] <a|3x> qman__, thanks, this is an interesting solution
[20:56] <rberg-> personally I went with md raid / xfs and dealt with the rest in userspace.
[20:57] <qman__> My system at home is zfs and I take hourly snapshots, and zfs send them to a replica server
[20:57] <qman__> I don't use dedup on that one though
[21:01] <qman__> Got almost 30tb and only 64g of ram so it wouldn't work
[21:03] <streulma> hello
[21:03] <lazyPower> can upstart be run outside of init?
[21:03] <streulma> server boot stops after Freeing initrd memory
[21:03] <streulma> there was a serious fsck...
[21:03] <streulma> how can I boot this server again?
[21:04] <streulma> does it not found the root device ?
[21:04] <bekks> lazyPower: Upstart runs all the time.
[21:06] <lazyPower> bekks: we're exploring some experimental work with juju + docker, and it appears that the local provider has quite a few dependencies on upstart - docker doesn't run a true init, so this is why i'm asking - to ensure that i'm not breaking some upstart dependency by starting it in the dockerfile
[21:09] <Aison> ok, as soon as I turn on IPv6 support on my HP LaserJet Printer, ubuntu server goes down after a few hours
[21:10] <Aison> because the dhcp6.leases and syslog file grows to serveral GB
[21:10] <Aison> and 100% CPU use
[21:10] <Aison> nice one....
[21:41] <Alina-malina> where can i see the POST logs?
[21:41] <bekks> Alina-malina: Nowehere. You BIOS does not log the POST anywhere.
[21:41] <Alina-malina> oh
[21:41] <Alina-malina> anyway i can log that stuff?
[21:41] <bekks> Alina-malina: No.
[21:41] <Alina-malina> erm
[21:49] <rostam> Hi sorry if this is of the topic could someone help me find out why this udev rule does not work:  ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="pci", ATTR{idVendor}=="1002",  DRIVERS=="fglrx", RUN+="/usr/local/test.sh"   thanks
[22:09] <JanC> Alina-malina: maybe you can log it on some computers using IPMI / AMT / ... (and in theory UEFI could do logging too, but I don't know of any that implement it?)
[22:10] <Alina-malina> erm
[22:10] <sarnold> rostam: is that a typo? should it be /usr/local/bin/test.sh?
[22:10] <Alina-malina> i dont know i thought to just log POST and GET
[22:10] <sarnold> rostam: is the file set executable? is the interpreter valid?
[22:30] <rostam> sarnold, yes to all your question and I changed the path to /usr/local/bin/test.sh still no output....
[22:30] <sarnold> rostam: does your script require a specific PATH?
[22:31] <rostam> sarnold,  the content is:  #!/bin/bash  echo "Test" > /tmp/test.txt .
[22:31] <optrusty> Ok Guys I just installed Ubuntu Server with Host VM, but I don't know how to use it
[22:31] <sarnold> rostam: hah, that should work :)
[22:32] <rostam> sarnold,  I wished :)
[23:01] <rostam> hi using ubuntu 14.04. Is there a place I can install a script before any driver is loaded. I can get udev working so was wondering if there is a place in rc script I can place something before any module is loaded? thanks
[23:03] <kevinde> Would it be possible to setup a Hotspot on my Ubuntu Server with CoovaChilli (just the login page), FreeRadius and Easyhotspot web  with only 1 NIC on the server and a router that has the DD-WRT firmware with Chillispot?
[23:03] <kevinde> Or would I need 2 NIC's on the server
[23:31] <Aison> I tried to create an upstart script
[23:31] <Aison> the strange thing is now, when I run the command as root in the console, it works perfectly
[23:32] <Aison> when I put the same command in exec line, then it segfaults
[23:32] <johncarper> Today when I tried connecting to my server trough my saved putty profile I get the error " Server refused public-key signature despite accepting key!" How is that possible? I been ssh'ing the whole evening to tesame server without no problems
[23:32] <johncarper> then suddenly this error came up