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diddledanoh, even better, "that was the week that was, next week on this week"00:08
intrbizdiddledan: yes :)00:10
mapitoope this dual sim phone lives up to what i need00:12
shaunoof course it won't, it's an android ;)00:12
mapitogot an iphne5s and 6 ..but dont wanna carry 2 phones and dont wanna swich sims ..the cases endup breaking at corners from taking phone out so many times00:12
directhexi'm not sure what dual-sim is *for*00:14
diddledandual sim is just a hipster thing00:14
diddledanit doesn't actually do anything useful00:14
diddledanbut the cool kids can say "look, it even takes two sims!"00:14
ali12341in china the rates for internetwork calls are really high so people just have two sims00:14
diddledanif everyone has two sims, why not just everyone have one and make one of the networks go under?00:15
ali12341actually in china there probably only is one network00:15
ali12341it's actually places like s.korea00:15
mapitoi need to use 2 sims atm tho00:16
mapitoif roaming wasnt stupidly expensive id just use ee..but im not paying 2 quid a day on top of my contract00:16
diddledanwhy do you need to use ee at all?00:16
mapitocalls and texts are free to eu while travelling in eu00:17
shaunojust use a little nokie for your voice calls.  that way you can keep your data plan on a proper phone ;)00:17
mapitowhereas if i use gib telecom will cost me loads to ring UK00:17
ali12341if you have a dual sim android phone you can lock calls to one sim and data to the other00:17
mapitoyea00:18
mapitothats what i want to do00:18
ali12341this is handy because you can use a ee sim for voice calls and get good signal everywhere00:18
mapitoif i lock calls and texts to ee and data to gibtele - if someone rung the gib number would i not be able to answer it?00:18
ali12341and use a three sim for cheap data, but three has a terrible signal00:18
mapitoordered the motorola moto g 2nd gen seemed good enough for my needs00:19
ali12341you'll always receive calls if the sim supports it00:19
mapitoso contacable on both numbers in a dual sim phone? dont need to set one as active or anything00:19
mapitonice00:19
ali12341i don't think so00:19
ali12341you do need to microsims for that phone though00:20
ali12341*two00:20
ali12341for this reason i couldn't actually test how it works00:20
ali12341but it appears to use both sims at once00:20
ali12341it puts two network signal meters in the tray area for example00:20
ali12341with "1" and "2" by them00:21
zmoylan-piwhen phone signal is weak the phone uses more power to establish a connection, how does that affect battery life in a dual sim phone?00:42
mapitohi all04:11
shaunogo to bed!04:14
mapitowatching the gambler04:17
mapitowith wahlberg04:17
mapitowhat you dong up!!04:17
shaunouhh .. it's the weekend04:19
daftykinscurry night Friday night \o/04:20
shaunoit's not friday night?!04:21
mjayk_good morning all04:22
mapitomorning mjayk_04:24
mapitocurry ugh;p04:24
mapitowhat u upto daftykins04:24
daftykinsjust watched the episode before last of season 2 of Star trek TOS04:32
=== zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi
mapitoive never watched any star trek or stargate maybe iu should04:33
mapito*i04:33
zmoylan-pihave you watched the tos reboot?04:33
daftykinsno sir04:34
zmoylan-pihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Continues04:34
zmoylan-piit's a fan created continuation.  it's not bad04:35
shaunoTOS was terrible. so it's either bad, or unfaithful :)04:35
daftykinshehe04:36
zmoylan-pitos is a product of its time. it looks terrible now but for its time it was great sci fi04:37
zmoylan-piditto tng04:37
zmoylan-pids9 has stood up a little better04:37
daftykinsthis is actually my first viewing of TOS and i found seasons 1 and 2 great04:37
daftykinsTNG needed to spend less time out of the court room04:38
daftykinsmy dear tux those episodes bored me04:38
zmoylan-pitng was a product of the 80s let's all sit down and talk04:38
mapitojudge judy is the best show;p04:38
shaunoI still dig tng04:38
zmoylan-pivoyager is a little bland but has wonderful borg episodes04:39
zmoylan-pienterprise i kinda liked on rewatching.04:39
daftykinsi debated watching Voyager, not sure i could handle Janeway's voice for that long04:39
zmoylan-piand i also liked star trek animated04:39
shaunovoyager got much better towards the end.  and then just kinda stopped04:39
zmoylan-pistart watching voyager about half way through season 304:40
zmoylan-pids9 is nice and dark as they tried to copy babylon 504:41
shauno(ds9 seemed to do that too.  it just kinda stopped.  they seem to have no idea how to wrap up a series.  tos & tng survived a little better because they finished them in films)04:42
zmoylan-piyeah the ds9 crew felt gutted that there was no film afterwards04:42
zmoylan-piso many lose ends. andrew robinson wrote a book about what garak got up to that i've heard good things about04:43
shaunoenterprise was a little better - simply because by the end of it, I was more than ready for it to finish04:43
daftykinsi didn't feel DS9 had anything to wrap up? it was just a bit cheesily finished04:44
shaunoit didn't so much finish, it just got put out of its misery04:44
zmoylan-piwell there was garak heading home to rebuild cardassia, o'brien heading home to earth to teach, worf as ambassador to klingon empire and then the rest of the crew still on the station rebuilding after the war04:45
zmoylan-pilots of stories to be told there04:45
zmoylan-pibut they wanted to move on to push voyager which was struggling a little and cheaper to make04:47
daftykinszmoylan-pi: that's true05:18
mapitowell06:26
mapitothe gambler was ok06:26
knightwisemorning everyone06:44
mapitomorning knightwise07:47
knightwisemorning mapito07:47
MooDoomorning all08:10
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knightwisehey MooDoo08:23
MooDoohow are you knightwise08:39
knightwisedoing ok , working from home today08:51
knightwiseswithced around my main workstation from my mac to ubuntu yesterday08:51
knightwisealways nice to jump right back into the flow of things regardless that you just switched operating systems :)08:52
knightwiseThats the great thing about having cross plaform workflows08:52
MooDooyeah nice08:55
knightwiseenjoying getting to know Gnome3 ,08:56
knightwisevery "modest" operating system. Doenst seem to get in the way08:56
davmor2Morning all09:19
MooDoomorning davmor2 :D09:20
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davmor2MooDoo: how life up norff09:28
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Static Electricity Day! :-D09:34
MooDoodavmor2: windy, and that's not due to me having beans09:43
davmor2JamesTait: hair raising balloons09:46
JamesTaitdavmor2, \o/09:54
popeyBEANZ09:56
davmor2popey: MEANZ HEINZ09:57
MyrttiTOTORO10:08
Myrttihttps://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/15616999513/10:11
davmor2popey: that or you are watching blazing saddles to test full video playback :)10:12
knightwiseGah !10:13
knightwiseworking on a simple redirect script thats bugging me10:13
knightwiseneed to paste the output of one command into a variable and then use that variable in the second command10:13
knightwiseanyone want to point out my stupid noob mistake and laugh ? http://pastebin.com/uB90W0vq10:16
ali12341variable names are case sensitive10:17
knightwiseok , that has been fixed , but i think i've made an error with piping in the data into the message variable10:19
ali12341MESSAGE=`cat ip.txt`10:20
knightwiseaah :) good :) I was close then !10:21
knightwiseNope  , doesnt work , now it just says 'cat ip.txt' in the subject10:22
knightwisei think i forgot a space10:22
ali12341then you didn't use backquotes10:25
knightwisebackquotes are ' right ?10:26
knightwiseas opposed to "10:26
ali12341no10:26
knightwisefound them10:28
knightwise`10:28
knightwisenope, sendemail doesnt recognise the input then10:30
knightwisei think i have it10:31
knightwiseBOOM :) it works10:31
davmor2knightwise: \o/10:33
davmor2JamesTait: man the static on this balloon is keeping it on the wall for ages your hair is good for static :)10:34
JamesTaitdavmor2, Hair? I think you've got me mixed up with someone else. ;)10:35
davmor2JamesTait: you got more than me :P10:35
* JamesTait bites his tongue.10:35
davmor2JamesTait: I have a natural and permanent hair cut :)10:37
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:43
davmor2morning brobostigon10:47
MooDoomorning brobostigon10:58
brobostigonmorning MooDoo and davmor210:58
davmor2JamesTait: MooDoo  has a Lionel Blair cut like mine10:59
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:00
davmor2Morning bigcalm11:16
bigcalmHiya davmor211:16
davmor2bigcalm: did you ever find a place to store your SSD?  Sue is trying to persuade me that we have enough corners to order the DeathStar11:18
bigcalmdavmor2: still on the dinning room table. I might see if it'll fit in my office11:20
davmor2haha11:20
popeysuspend it from the celing above your bed!11:21
davmor2popey: hahaha11:21
* bigcalm goes to weigh it11:21
davmor2bigcalm: is that the one that is 4 or 8 kilos11:22
* knightwise just wrote a pretty "lowjack" script : http://pastebin.com/SgjT0ieb11:22
popeyPaulW2U: congratulations!11:23
bigcalmdavmor2: weighed myself and then me with it, came out at about 4.5 kg11:25
davmor2bigcalm: that is quite heavy11:26
bigcalmhttps://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/55351510289352294411:35
Laneynice elephants11:37
bigcalmI love my elePHPants11:38
bigcalmdavmor2: ^11:41
davmor2bigcalm: that does not fit11:43
davmor2bigcalm: your xwing looks fairly small is that the standard one?11:44
knightwiseDROOL11:44
bigcalmdavmor2: it does. The door can open and close without problem11:45
bigcalmdavmor2: yes11:45
bigcalmOnce I've built the Tie Fighter, I'll take a group photo of: Super Star Destroyer, Tie Fighter, AT-AT, Millennium Falcon, X-Wing, Snow Speeder, R2D211:47
bigcalmI must stop buying these things11:47
popeyI can see a loft hatch11:48
popeyput them all up there11:48
popey11:48
bigcalmHeh11:48
bigcalmpopey: Full of insulation. Don't think there's much space to make it into a model home11:48
popeywe had extra insulation put in ours, then boards on top11:49
bigcalmPutting boards down would compress the insulation and thus reduce its efficiency11:50
popeyno it wouldn't ☻11:50
popeywe have boards above the insulation11:50
popeynot pushing it down11:50
bigcalmFair enough :)11:50
popeyour loft is a dumping ground11:52
popeymy jamma arcade boards are all up there11:52
popeyand spectrums, amstrads, bbcs etc11:52
davmor2popey: bigcalm: knock at the door my build a scale movie model of the millennium falcon just turned up, I've just seen A: the level of detail and B: the mammoth size of it11:57
popeyhaha11:57
bigcalmHeh11:59
bigcalmPoor Sue11:59
davmor2bigcalm: she ordered it12:01
popeyI think I may add some lego to my wishlist - birthday soon ☻12:02
MooDoodavmor2: not the magazine?12:02
knightwise:)12:03
MooDooall £900 of it12:03
davmor2MooDoo: Yeap12:03
MooDoodavmor2: and expensive ship then12:04
davmor2popey, bigcalm, MooDoo: http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/2015-01-09-120002.jpg12:04
MooDoobloody hell12:05
knightwiseat least now I don't feel so wierd about owning the deckplan blueprints of the enterprise D12:06
davmor2MooDoo: movie scale replica now you suddenly start understanding the price point.  Subscribers get a wall mounting bracket because I'm assuming it's too heavy to go on top of shelves :)12:07
bigcalmdavmor2: don't eat it12:07
davmor2bigcalm: I needed the other hand to click the mouse12:07
knightwisewindow hide 412:11
knightwisesorry12:11
davmor2knightwise: no your not ;)12:11
knightwiseblowup davmor212:11
knightwisei meant /blowup davmor212:11
knightwise;)12:12
* DJones wonders if knightwise means with explosives or a inflate with helium to make hanging him from the ceiling simpler12:35
knightwiseDJones: the latter12:36
* knightwise knows people who watch Pr0n with Links12:44
bigcalmLinks the web browser?13:02
popey"A friend"13:04
zmoylan-piif the porn has the right keywords people will follow a 20 minute set of install instructions to watch it :-/13:04
ali12341are all the daily ISOs broken or what?13:10
popeyali12341: possibly13:37
ali12341lol, why is the ubuntu homepage in arabic on a fresh install?13:45
awilkinsIs that the first localization in the list?13:46
ali12341probably13:46
zmoylan-pikeyboard layout you chose?13:46
ali12341no, i chose UK like always13:46
awilkinsWhat do you expect for software named after one of these?   (mildly NFSW) : http://cdn1.arkive.org/media/73/73BF888D-9637-4CA3-A040-5830367C8696/Presentation.Large/Hilgerts-vervet-C-p-hilgerti-running.jpg13:47
ali12341"you pay peanuts..."13:48
ali12341bug 140901513:53
lubotu3bug 1409015 in firefox (Ubuntu) "about:startpage is in wrong language" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140901513:53
bigcalmJust installed the gimp and it's throwing seg faults when I try to launch it. Anybody know how I can debug/resolve this?15:41
awilkinsHow'd you install it?15:43
bigcalmSoftware Centre15:43
bigcalmQuick google and I've created ~/.gimp-2.8 and now it runs15:44
bigcalmWeird15:44
bigcalmhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9699084/15:45
awilkinsConfig isn't the same as your username15:45
awilkinsUsername seems to be snafu215:46
awilkinsConfigured folder seems to be iain15:46
bigcalmMy machine is snafu215:46
bigcalmMy user is iain15:46
awilkinsAh, sorry15:46
diddledanyey for configurable prompts?15:47
diddledanconfuse the heck out of others prompts!15:48
diddledan:-p15:48
bigcalmEh?15:49
diddledanbigcalm, awilkins was obviously misreading the prompt because his is different to yours15:50
awilkinsmine is the default user@machine15:51
bigcalmAh15:57
bigcalmexport PS1='\[\033[01;32m\]\h\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033[31m\]$(__git_ps1 "(%s)") \[\033[01;34m\]$\[\033[00m\] '15:57
bigcalmHi moreati15:59
moreatiafernoon15:59
davmor2moreati: \o16:01
moreati〈o16:05
ali12341ᕙ(° Д°)/16:08
PaulW2Upopey: Thanks16:22
davmor2ali12341: your a little teapot short and stout16:30
diddledanI found this fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaxG2cTNWkQ16:31
diddledandavmor2, pull his handle and hear him shout.16:31
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shaunowoot!  my ipad's been found18:38
shaunosomeone took it a shop in dublin to get them to unlock it, and the shop called me18:38
zmoylan-piscore \o/18:39
shaunototally.  happy dance!18:39
zmoylan-pii did once find an ipod touch a few years back and posted an online advert looking for it's original owner.  the amount of chancers saying it was theres...18:40
shaunoyeah.  I thought about that when I looked on dublin airport's lost & found thing.  they have a list of what they've got online18:41
zmoylan-piunfortunately you have to check about a 100 lost and found places, the guards, the airport, the taxi rank, the various shops in the airport...18:42
shaunoyeah.  that's what I found.  airport police say they don't handle it because it was on the plane itself, and give you ryanair's number18:42
shaunoryanair just give you the number for airport police18:43
zmoylan-piryanair would sell it for petrol money... :-P18:43
zmoylan-pibut the owner of the ipod touch had left no name, no email, no identification whatsoever on the device.  yours obviously didn't have such a problem18:44
shaunoyeah.  as soon as they connected to wifi it locked itself and sticks a message on the screen with my phone number18:46
shauno(I don't usually have a passcode on it because it spends most it's life stuffed down the side of the couch)18:46
zmoylan-piand were obviously too confused to read phone number...18:46
shaunoso I need to figure out when I can make a trip to dublin  heh18:48
zmoylan-pii can pick it up and uh... post it to you... :-P18:48
zmoylan-pi>_>   not shifty at all18:49
zmoylan-pi<_<18:49
shaunolol18:49
popeyshauno: nice of them!19:01
zmoylan-piif they didn't they could be accused of handling stolen goods...19:02
shaunovery much so19:02
diddledanshauno, and people say that "track my device, i.e. me, every move" is a bad thing :-p19:02
shaunofigure the guy probably deserves a few bob for his troubles19:02
popeyremote wipe ftw19:02
zmoylan-pii'd be unhappy if i lost my €49 nokia dumbphone :-)19:02
popeyshauno: phone the store and ask the manager who it was that did it and ask what his/her fave tipple is?19:02
popeywonder what they said to the person who took it in19:03
shaunoI didn't do wipe, just remote lock.  because I actually thought ryanair would find it first  lol19:03
shaunobut it seems to have been enough .. my phone number popping up on the lock screen when they connected it to wifi was non-too-subtle19:04
popeyi didnt know you could do that19:04
* popey tests with his ipad19:04
popeyewww. dat gradient on icloud19:05
shaunothe 'lost mode' bit19:05
popeythat works nicely19:06
shaunoit should survive being wiped on ios7 & 8 now, which also rocks19:07
popeywe should steal that19:07
popeymy ipad is on ios519:07
popey1st gen, so lots of apps and games don't work anymore19:07
popeycrossy road wants 719:07
shaunoah, yeah19:07
shaunoI have an old ipod that has that problem :/19:08
ali12341can you build usermode linux for nacl?19:40
diddledanlol, ali12341 , that sounds like fun19:57
diddledanali12341, alternatively usermode linux for emscripten19:57
shaunoI think most I've seen just emulate x86 in js20:00
shauno(eg http://bellard.org/jslinux/ )20:00
diddledanshauno, I still don't know if that jslinux is actually what it says it is20:01
shaunohow do?20:02
diddledani.e. specifically because they haven't made any source code available yet claim it's open source20:02
diddledanfrom the FAQ: "The readable source code of the JS PC emulator itself is not yet available. At this point, any mirroring or redistribution of the code needs my explicit permission."20:02
shaunopersonally tempted to take it at face value, given the author20:03
diddledanI don't believe it was attributed last I saw it, tho20:05
shaunoit says at the bottom (C) 2011 fabrice bellard20:06
diddledanas I say, I don't believe it was attributed last I saw it, tho20:06
shaunolol, fair enough20:07
shaunoI'm just saying that since the guy has ffmpeg & qemu under his belt, I'm more tempted to accept his claims20:07
diddledanaye, last I saw it there was just the page showing the emulator doing it's thang and not much else20:07
diddledanit might be that the version I saw was a rip from bellard.org which didn't attribute it's source20:08
diddledane.g. jslinux.org20:08
shaunothere was another one floating around quite recently which I believe was bochs in emscripten20:10
diddledanfollowing a few links from jslinux.org leads to buzzword bingo: http://www.setiri.com/20:11
shaunoanother one I noticed was an assembler written in js.  notable mostly for the unfortunate name 'jism'20:12
* diddledan sniggers20:12
diddledanI'm not sure I should try googling for that20:13
shaunoheh, yeah.  there's been a few of those.  like the 'minimal debian' for the pi - 'lessbian'20:14
diddledan\o/20:14
shaunoquite tempted to believe they weren't accidental though.  oh well20:15
diddledanyeah, you'd think even if they weren't intentional that the authors would have known the implications before making it public20:23
diddledaninteresting. a new image format by that bellard bloke (jslinux author) - http://xooyoozoo.github.io/yolo-octo-bugfixes/#zoo-bird-head&jpg=s&bpg=s21:11
mapito30mins of american sniper left23:04
mapitothen il get some yen and g out23:04
mapito:D23:04
zmoylan-pii want fif to catch on23:05
zmoylan-pihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal_compression23:07
* m0nkey_ is finally back from Burlington23:21
diddledanwb23:22
* zmoylan-pi reports m0nkey_ escape to the proper authorities23:23
m0nkey_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGpQk2cW49423:27
m0nkey_you can hate me now23:31
diddledanthat cat is enjoying himself so much23:34
m0nkey_Tempted to reinstate my current desktop (mini-itx thing) back to pfSense.23:43
m0nkey_... since I'll be starting to build a new PC for myself soon.23:43

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