| Kilos | morning all | 03:22 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi octoquad | 03:23 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn hi there laddy, hows ya | 03:23 |
| Kilos | wb bushtech | 03:40 |
| Kilos | you hopping so early | 03:40 |
| Kilos | hi bduk | 04:07 |
| bduk | morning all | 04:19 |
| Kilos | jy vroeg ne | 04:32 |
| nlsthzn | morning all | 05:38 |
| nlsthzn | hmmm... no aspell in xchat currently :/ | 05:39 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 05:42 |
| nlsthzn | how are you uncle Kilos ? | 05:42 |
| Kilos | good ty nlsthzn and you? | 05:42 |
| nlsthzn | good thanks :) | 05:42 |
| bduk2 | Mornings | 05:52 |
| nuvolari | o/ oh hi oom Kilos :) | 06:12 |
| nuvolari | o/ hi bduk, nlsthzn | 06:12 |
| bduk | Morning nlsthzn | 06:13 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 06:15 |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari ThatGraemeGuy | 06:19 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 06:20 |
| Kilos | weirdness never ends | 06:21 |
| Kilos | 256 ssd shows as samsung ssd pm 830 | 06:22 |
| Kilos | and | 06:22 |
| Kilos | seagate FA GoFlex desk | 06:23 |
| Kilos | thats in disks | 06:23 |
| Kilos | maybe someone did a firmware upgrade from seagate and thats why im having probs | 06:24 |
| bduk | Kilos: I have a 4pond hammer for you | 06:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:24 |
| Kilos | jy sien hoe kan dit wys as twee verskillende skywe | 06:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | pm830 is the model number | 06:25 |
| Kilos | ek het pc goed beloer van alle kante on seker te maak daar is niks anders in geplug nie | 06:26 |
| Kilos | ya thats what it is ThatGraemeGuy | 06:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: sudo lshw -class storage | 06:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | paste output to pastebin | 06:27 |
| Kilos | ok | 06:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sorry | 06:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sudo lshw -class storage -class disk | 06:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or just disk even might be enough | 06:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | meh | 06:28 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s21Wy6u3ko | 06:29 |
| Kilos | lemme do next one | 06:29 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2zDLWyCxB | 06:31 |
| Kilos | that goflex thing must be a partyition | 06:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that's your ssd | 06:32 |
| Kilos | partition ya but why it says its a seagate | 06:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | because that's what it is | 06:34 |
| Kilos | are samsung and seagate 1 | 06:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | seagate purchased samsungs HDD business years ago | 06:35 |
| Kilos | ah | 06:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so the device identification in the firmware may not necessarily say the same as the sticker on the device | 06:35 |
| Kilos | but in disk utilities it shows both | 06:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | screenshot | 06:35 |
| Kilos | lemme try that again | 06:36 |
| Kilos | ai! | 06:37 |
| Kilos | eish i dunno how | 06:39 |
| Kilos | im sure last time was with kscreenshot | 06:39 |
| Kilos | now no such command | 06:39 |
| Kilos | inetpro ping | 06:39 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy http://picpaste.com/snapshot1-jr4vU66P.png | 06:44 |
| Kilos | sorry about the konsole in the way | 06:44 |
| Kilos | its ksnapshot not kscreenshot | 06:45 |
| Kilos | and smart is disabled for it, do i enable that in bios? | 06:50 |
| magespawn | good morning | 08:01 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 08:01 |
| magespawn | what is the correct way to clear the mail from /var/mail/root? | 08:15 |
| inetpro | Kilos: our weatherman was clearly confused the other day | 08:17 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:17 |
| Kilos | storming here now | 08:17 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 08:17 |
| Kilos | he is confused all the time i think | 08:17 |
| Kilos | are there shortcut keys to take screenshot please | 08:18 |
| magespawn | aren't the weathermen always confused? i thought that was their modus operandi | 08:18 |
| Kilos | on kde of course | 08:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: just press that one button dammit | 08:18 |
| magespawn | PrtSc | 08:18 |
| Kilos | i dont have a dammit button here | 08:18 |
| Kilos | lemme get magnifying glass | 08:19 |
| magespawn | top right hand side of the keyboard | 08:19 |
| Kilos | oh | 08:19 |
| Kilos | print screen and sysrq | 08:19 |
| magespawn | inetpro: what is the correct way to clear the mail from /var/mail/root? | 08:19 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:21 |
| * Kilos loves the ai! | 08:21 | |
| inetpro | 08:21 | |
| inetpro | why do you have mail? | 08:21 |
| magespawn | not me, the centos/asterisk server does | 08:25 |
| magespawn | so i suppose technically i do, just not on this system, on the centos/asterisk server | 08:28 |
| magespawn | i am busy checking through it now, but it looks like it has never been cleared | 08:28 |
| magespawn | there is mail in there from 2013 | 08:28 |
| magespawn | the file is 1226046 long | 08:29 |
| magespawn | 85 Mb | 08:29 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:30 |
| Kilos | what kind of mails magespawn ? | 08:30 |
| magespawn | yup, i will be checking it regulalry from now on | 08:31 |
| Kilos | junk or important | 08:31 |
| magespawn | system stuff mostely | 08:31 |
| inetpro | magespawn: if you want to keep it for checking later just make a copy of it | 08:33 |
| inetpro | then do the following: | 08:33 |
| inetpro | # cat /dev/null > /var/mail/root | 08:33 |
| magespawn | i have copied it to my machine already, ty | 08:35 |
| inetpro | technically I think you can just delete it as well | 08:35 |
| inetpro | can't remember whether it has to be there, think it will just recreate next time there is mail | 08:36 |
| magespawn | from what i have read yes it does just recreate the file as it is needed | 08:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: so, does it work? | 08:37 |
| magespawn | all the other commands i found remove the mailbox as well, seemed a bit drastic to me | 08:37 |
| inetpro | magespawn: it's just a file | 08:37 |
| inetpro | permissions of it is important though | 08:38 |
| inetpro | especially for normal users | 08:39 |
| inetpro | or users other than root | 08:39 |
| Kilos | i havent tried the dammit button yet inetpro will check when i need another screenshot | 08:39 |
| inetpro | Kilos: check now man | 08:39 |
| inetpro | you don't have to save it | 08:40 |
| Kilos | ya works baie lekker, ty very much | 08:40 |
| inetpro | now do it again and again until your fingers remember it | 08:41 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:41 |
| * inetpro don't want to see that question from Kilos here again again | 08:41 | |
| Kilos | haha you shoulda helped the first time | 08:41 |
| inetpro | that was too long ago | 08:41 |
| Kilos | you shoulda helped everytime | 08:42 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:42 |
| Kilos | reen nou hier en baie afgekoel | 08:42 |
| inetpro | lekker | 08:43 |
| * magespawn is enjoying vim | 08:44 | |
| Kilos | well the ssd has taken xp now | 08:44 |
| Kilos | oso now i can try linux again | 08:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that just sounds naturally weird | 08:46 |
| Kilos | well before it didnt wanna take xp or 7 or kde but took unity | 08:47 |
| * inetpro will stay out of it | 08:47 | |
| Kilos | now after much wiping and fixxmbr and fixboot it has taken xp so thats a good sign | 08:47 |
| inetpro | where's that bush fella? | 08:48 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:49 |
| Kilos | maybe storm got him | 08:49 |
| Kilos | yesterday win7 couldnt even format it inetpro | 08:52 |
| Kilos | nor xp nor linux | 08:52 |
| inetpro | jaja | 08:52 |
| Kilos | ai! ek gaan jou slaan | 08:52 |
| inetpro | there's no logic that can explain it man | 08:53 |
| Kilos | oh | 08:53 |
| Kilos | corruption somewhere | 08:53 |
| magespawn | yup when you strart running into errors like the disk is usually the problem | 08:56 |
| magespawn | maybe partition it and then test the individual partitions | 08:57 |
| Kilos | replacing windows xp with 12.04 | 09:02 |
| Kilos | Maaz jaja | 09:03 |
| Maaz | I believe you Kilos But millions would'nt | 09:03 |
| Kilos | ai! not me you fool bot | 09:04 |
| magespawn | inetpro my education is lacking, i need to know more | 09:04 |
| magespawn | sometimes i wish i could matrix the info in | 09:04 |
| magespawn | hello operator i need to know in depth centos system administration | 09:05 |
| Kilos | lpi course does centos man | 09:06 |
| inetpro | magespawn: just keep moving | 09:08 |
| inetpro | it's been 20 years of *nix and it feels like I know less than when I started | 09:10 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 09:11 |
| inetpro | when I started I knew it all | 09:11 |
| inetpro | at least that is what I thought at the time | 09:12 |
| magespawn | indeed | 09:12 |
| magespawn | i have some httpd errors in that mail file, bit concerning | 09:13 |
| inetpro | and if I remember correctly it all started with Sun Solaris in 1995 | 09:14 |
| magespawn | a little while ago | 09:14 |
| inetpro | uh? | 09:14 |
| inetpro | httpd errors in the mail file? | 09:14 |
| inetpro | you mean, http errors mailed to root? | 09:15 |
| magespawn | the mail file is logwatch, | 09:15 |
| magespawn | i think iwas just starting to play around with windows then, 95 i think | 09:16 |
| magespawn | yes inetpro | 09:16 |
| inetpro | in 97 I actually gave up on *nix for some time, experienced it as something like a black hole, went back to windows for almost a year | 09:17 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 09:17 |
| inetpro | was like a revelation when I was forced to use it again when I had to help a customer to set up apache | 09:18 |
| inetpro | on solaris again | 09:19 |
| inetpro | magespawn: anyway, you where saying? ahh... logwatch | 09:20 |
| magespawn | inetpro: what was that phrase you used the other day for self tought people/ | 09:20 |
| inetpro | autodidacticism | 09:21 |
| magespawn | so presume that is just a summary of httpd logs? | 09:21 |
| magespawn | would that be a good thing to put on your cv, i wonder/ | 09:22 |
| magespawn | ? | 09:22 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:23 |
| inetpro | magespawn: what was that I said to Kilos earlier? Oh yes, the oxymoron "naturally weird" | 09:23 |
| Kilos | Maaz define autodidacticism | 09:23 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word? | 09:23 |
| inetpro | think anyone reading your CV would think you're naturally weird | 09:23 |
| inetpro | wb bushtech | 09:24 |
| inetpro | ai! | 09:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:24 |
| magespawn | it does have a wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodidacticism | 09:24 |
| Kilos | hoe vang hy jou nou | 09:24 |
| magespawn | they might do anyway | 09:25 |
| magespawn | 10 years field guide 4 computer technician | 09:25 |
| Kilos | inetpro where did you learn that word | 09:25 |
| Kilos | all comes from pop groups | 09:26 |
| magespawn | i like thia line from the entry 'Many notable contributions have been made by autodidacts.' | 09:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: froztbyte | 09:26 |
| Kilos | aha | 09:26 |
| Kilos | shame that glug is almost dead | 09:27 |
| Kilos | 12.04 struggling to setup users on the ssd | 09:27 |
| Kilos | grrr | 09:27 |
| Kilos | very slow install | 09:28 |
| Kilos | wb bushtech | 09:28 |
| Kilos | die pro soek jou | 09:28 |
| Kilos | were sorry the installer crashed | 09:29 |
| magespawn | will traditional disk checking software work on an ssd? | 09:31 |
| Kilos | they say chkdsk does | 09:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no I didn't | 09:32 |
| * inetpro was just wondering | 09:32 | |
| Kilos | ah | 09:32 |
| Kilos | he has a vodacom connection | 09:32 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:32 |
| Kilos | hows your home connection now inetpro ? | 09:33 |
| inetpro | forced it to stay on 4G and running pretty stable even if only on one bar at times | 09:34 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 09:35 |
| inetpro | before doing that it used to fluctuate too much | 09:35 |
| * inetpro is happy with stable | 09:36 | |
| Kilos | yip stable is good | 09:37 |
| Kilos | and thats without thew external antenna? | 09:37 |
| inetpro | yep | 09:37 |
| Kilos | that will fix the strength | 09:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I tried, not really making much of a diff | 09:39 |
| Kilos | nee man it must | 09:39 |
| Kilos | point it in the right direction | 09:39 |
| Kilos | should be at least 5 times stronger | 09:39 |
| inetpro | no | 09:40 |
| inetpro | 10db | 09:40 |
| inetpro | s/db/dBm/ | 09:40 |
| magespawn | 10 db is not bad | 09:40 |
| magespawn | what antenna did you use? | 09:40 |
| magespawn | i am also loving scp | 09:43 |
| inetpro | magespawn: looks like this: http://www.antenna3g.co.za/img/sitepics/3gaerial/LPDA-A0044-BIGreduced.JPG | 09:47 |
| Kilos | 10db is a massive gain in strength | 09:47 |
| Kilos | iirc | 09:47 |
| Kilos | like 1 bar should go to 4 or 5 | 09:48 |
| inetpro | have too many trees in the direction of the tower, I think | 09:48 |
| inetpro | so my LTE probably coming through to the standard antenna by deflection | 09:50 |
| * inetpro certainly can not see the tower, even on the roof | 09:53 | |
| Kilos | whew | 09:56 |
| Kilos | so how do you know if you pointing it in the right direction | 09:57 |
| Kilos | fractions of an inch can make a diffs | 09:58 |
| AndChat|99281 | load shedding is back | 10:11 |
| magespawn | something broke with my latest update | 10:11 |
| Kilos | eish | 10:12 |
| magespawn | whenever the laptop switch the screen off i cannot get them to bring it back on | 10:14 |
| magespawn | so i have to start the machine | 10:15 |
| magespawn | restart | 10:15 |
| magespawn | i am going to try a release upgrade since i am on 14.04 | 10:20 |
| magespawn | my system thinks 14.10 does not exist | 10:47 |
| magespawn | well here we go | 10:49 |
| magespawn | nope not going to do that now | 10:51 |
| magespawn | going to take way too long in the middle of the day | 10:52 |
| magespawn | bbl | 10:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:43 |
| Kilos | if 14.04 is working leave it | 11:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | heh | 12:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that's the kind of thinking that sees people still running windows xp | 12:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:11 |
| Squirm | hey all | 12:11 |
| Kilos | experiment at home and if things arent broken dont try fix them | 12:12 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 12:12 |
| Kilos | work already a load without sorting and adding new probs | 12:12 |
| magespawn | ThatGraemeGuy: luckily i am persistant and see absolutely no reason to go back to windows | 12:30 |
| bduk | magespawn you have no software that is win dependant? | 12:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:51 |
| === AndChat|99281 is now known as bduk | ||
| Kilos | Maaz 750/22 | 13:19 |
| Maaz | Kilos: 34.0909090909 | 13:19 |
| magespawn | bduk not for myself no | 13:38 |
| bduk | wish i could get rid of my win needs | 13:41 |
| inetpro | bduk: what do you still depend on? | 13:43 |
| magespawn | and on that note will chat later all | 14:05 |
| Squirm | waiting for the load shedding to hit | 14:06 |
| Squirm | which was meant to hit at 4 | 14:06 |
| Kilos | ai! | 14:22 |
| bduk1 | Sorry inetpro, big storm coming had to run around. Mostly games my heli sim trainer, some radio programing software and some security dvr,s | 14:26 |
| bushtech | bduk, whereabouts are you? | 14:29 |
| bushtech | bduk1, whereabouts are you? | 14:33 |
| bduk1 | Cullinan bushtech | 14:41 |
| bduk1 | East of pretoria | 14:42 |
| bushtech | Thanks bduk1 | 14:43 |
| Squirm | almost | 14:53 |
| Squirm | home | 14:53 |
| Squirm | time | 14:53 |
| Kilos | yay | 14:53 |
| Squirm | cheers all... | 14:59 |
| Squirm | It's the weekend baby! | 14:59 |
| Kilos | enjoy Squirm | 15:01 |
| Kilos | sigh | 17:43 |
| Kilos | evening superfly inetpro and others | 17:45 |
| superfly | evening Kilos | 18:04 |
| superfly | so, Kilos, after generating this 355GB file, I ran it through a video converter, and made an 8.5GB file | 18:05 |
| Kilos | what is the vidoe about superfly ? | 18:06 |
| Kilos | what converter made it so small? | 18:06 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's a visualization of the history of a program's development | 18:07 |
| Kilos | whew | 18:07 |
| magespawn | good evening | 18:45 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:46 |
| magespawn | how are things kilos? | 18:49 |
| Kilos | good ty magespawn and there? | 18:49 |
| Kilos | ssd working again | 18:50 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:50 |
| Kilos | only now its got 32bit 12.04 on and need 250m upgrades after midnight | 18:50 |
| magespawn | ahh well, at least it is working | 18:51 |
| captine | hi all | 18:52 |
| Kilos | hi captine | 18:53 |
| captine | Kilos, why 12.04 and not 14.04? | 18:53 |
| Kilos | weird stuff though magespawn bios showed drive as j? not samsung ssd | 18:54 |
| Kilos | i dont have the 32 bit iso anymore and other pc cant do 64bit | 18:54 |
| Kilos | i lost many isos when i zeroed the wrong drive | 18:55 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:55 |
| captine | well, shout if you want it posted to you or something. can always download and post | 18:55 |
| magespawn | i have just dowloaded the latest iso as well | 18:56 |
| Kilos | ty for the offer but let me see if the ssd is stable and not crash after 2 days again then ill bring it here and go 14.04 64bit again | 18:56 |
| captine | cool | 18:57 |
| Kilos | 14.10? | 18:57 |
| captine | I havent gone to 14.10 | 18:57 |
| magespawn | neither have i yet | 18:57 |
| Kilos | is that what you downloaded | 18:57 |
| captine | I am planning on using the machine I am on (mac mini 16gig memory etc) as my desktop but also server, so not going to experiment on it | 18:57 |
| Kilos | im not going to | 18:57 |
| Kilos | rather go 16.04 | 18:58 |
| magespawn | yes the kde version | 18:58 |
| captine | i only used kde once on an arch linux derivative. liked it, but prefer the simple Unity... :) will load ubuntu MATE edition on my wifes old macbook when she retires it... | 18:58 |
| magespawn | 16.04? i thought the latest was 14.10 | 18:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:59 |
| Kilos | ya man magespawn im going lts only | 18:59 |
| Kilos | and by then theyll have mir and systemd very stable | 19:00 |
| magespawn | isn't the next 15.04? | 19:01 |
| Kilos | nope lts is every 2 years | 19:03 |
| Kilos | 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04 | 19:04 |
| magespawn | ohh okay, they changed it hey? | 19:05 |
| captine | i ma looking forward to 15.04 gnome edition. think it will look good | 19:06 |
| magespawn | funny thing is i am moving away from a desktop at the moment, so i am pretty easy, as long as it loads fast | 19:09 |
| captine | magespawn, moving away? | 19:10 |
| captine | going to command line? | 19:10 |
| magespawn | yup | 19:10 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:10 |
| magespawn | getting the skills going on the cli | 19:10 |
| captine | wow. i couldnt do that. too comfortable with pictures... | 19:10 |
| captine | :) | 19:10 |
| Kilos | no drag and drop sigh | 19:10 |
| magespawn | still use the ordinary browser, i have not gone completly cli yet | 19:11 |
| captine | i am trying to figure out how to replace virtualbox with kvm/juju... pretty confusing for non-IT person. | 19:11 |
| magespawn | speak to inetpro, he seems to have some experience in that area | 19:13 |
| Kilos | theblazehen you sick or studying? | 19:16 |
| Kilos | no lies | 19:16 |
| magespawn | superfly you around? | 19:19 |
| magespawn | maaz tell superfly what does python -v do? | 19:25 |
| Maaz | magespawn: Okay, I'll tell superfly on freenode | 19:25 |
| captine | thanks magespawn. Will chat to Inetpro when stuck... it will happen | 19:27 |
| captine | lol | 19:27 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow | 19:27 |
| magespawn | good night Kilos | 19:27 |
| superfly | magespawn: surely it just shows the version? | 19:34 |
| Maaz | superfly: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell superfly what does python -v do?" 8 minutes and 50 seconds ago | 19:34 |
| superfly | magespawn: most programs use -v to show the version number | 19:34 |
| magespawn | thats what i thought but no, got a whole lot of out put | 19:35 |
| magespawn | pastebin, if you want to see | 19:37 |
| magespawn | http://pastebin.com/nebCqG9f | 19:39 |
| magespawn | any way i need to be off to bed, good night all | 19:46 |
| superfly | Maaz: tell magespawn python --help | 19:50 |
| Maaz | superfly: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode | 19:50 |
| inetpro | Maaz: tell magespawn man python | 20:08 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode | 20:08 |
| inetpro | hullo | 20:08 |
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