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xubuntu54whello i need help concerning windows drivers00:54
trompstompjoin #chromium05:25
austin_Hello I'm Austin05:34
mucusso you are05:35
austin_I'm doing good but I have a problem I have xubuntu on Virtual Box and its kinda laggy anyone else using virtual box?05:35
mucusis okie for me05:37
octetcloudrunning 14.10, xubuntu, with NetworkManager (the default) -> I never get password prompts! Suggestions?06:38
octetcloud... I mean wifi password prompts. makes it impossible to connect to new wifi nets, the old ones work fine06:39
xubuntu92wHello everyone! So I am having trouble booting into Xubuntu after installing it on my Toshiba laptop. It says "Reboot and select proper boot device" so I used the boot repair which fixed it to boot once, but if I restart it goes back to the same screen. Here is my screen07:28
xubuntu92wis my boot repair link*07:28
xubuntu92wpaste.ubuntu.com/968007007:29
ObrienDaveok, two issues, you did not install grub to the proper boot partition and you have a UEFI system. i don't know enough about either to give you proper guidance07:47
ObrienDavebut if you ask in the #ubuntu channel, there are plenty of people there to help you07:48
superprowerHello again. In windows, when you press middle button of mouse, you can scroll page by moving a mouse. Is there a way to enable option like this in xubuntu?08:15
function9xhi I'd like to know does the Removable Storage save it's settings to a config file? I'd like to modify that file manually09:25
GeoMinthi12:12
slickymasterWork!hi12:13
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!12:13
GeoMinti want to set my computer when i close the lid to shutdown. but i can not find how to do it in settings editor12:14
cfhowlettGeoMint, on xubuntu????12:15
GeoMintyes12:15
GeoMinti am in settings editor now, in xfce4-power-manager tab12:18
GeoMinti searched but i didn't found anything12:18
cfhowlettGeoMint, ask #xfce12:19
GeoMintok12:19
GeoMintcfhowlett, i do think that anyone will answer me12:22
GeoMintdonot*12:22
GeoMintdo not*12:22
cfhowlettGeoMint, ask their forums.  they ARE the experts on xfce ...12:23
KomiaPoikahi12:28
KomiaPoikai installed windows on an old pc's first hd, then xubuntu on the other hd but it didn't leave me a chance to setup grub at install time. now when the pc boots it goes straight into windows. how do i use the install dvd to set up grub on the pc?12:29
cfhowlett!grub | KomiaPoika, reinstall grub12:29
ubottuKomiaPoika, reinstall grub: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub212:29
KomiaPoikacfhowlett: thanks12:31
cfhowlettKomiaPoika, happy2help!12:31
KomiaPoikacfhowlett: is boot-repair available on the 10.04.01 install dvd?12:35
cfhowlettKomiaPoika, eh ... maybe???12:36
cfhowlettKomiaPoika, wait, you're running 10.04???12:36
KomiaPoikaxubuntu-14.04.112:39
KomiaPoikasorry 1412:39
KomiaPoikacfhowlett: how can i Install and run Boot-Repair from the xubuntu live dvd boot?12:42
cfhowlettKomiaPoika, never done boot repair.  I have installed grub ...12:43
KomiaPoikaxubuntu install didn't offer me to install grub at install time :(12:44
cfhowlettkomiapoika understood.  so?  post install works just find.12:45
cfhowlett*fine*12:45
KomiaPoikare12:49
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GeoMinthi again12:58
GeoMintcfhowlett, they helped me change the setting but when i go to restart systemd-logind it says Operation Error12:59
cfhowlettGeoMint, nothing more??12:59
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KomiaPoikait says Do not use the partition number with the grub-install command. but not doing so it didn't install anything :(13:00
GeoMintcfhowlett,  Failed to get D-Bus connection: Operation not permitted13:00
KomiaPoikaoh may be i installed it the wrong partition13:00
cfhowlettGeoMint, ask in #ubuntu ... more eyes13:00
GeoMintohh :/13:00
cfhowlett?? yeah, you really do need to check that  :)13:01
GeoMinti will to ask in 50 different irc :P13:01
GeoMintwill have*13:01
KomiaPoikagrub avoided flexnet a13:15
KomiaPoikaso13:15
KomiaPoikai didn't13:15
KomiaPoikai still don't have grub at boot :(13:15
xubuntu914hello, can anyone help with networking between XuBuntu and Windows please ?13:27
xubuntu914Samba does not work, crashes... out..13:28
xubuntu914Any other apps that are better ?13:29
brainwash!samba13:30
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html13:30
xubuntu914Thanks. ?? But...13:31
deshipuxubuntu914: I don't think that Windows supports any sane protocols out of the box13:31
brainwashyou could try to fix your samba issue13:31
xubuntu914If I was to move all my machies too XuBuntu, what would they use as a network ?13:32
brainwash!nfs13:33
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.13:33
deshipuor just scp13:35
deshipufor transferring files13:35
deshipu!scp13:35
ubottuscp is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/13:35
deshiputhere is also sshfs for more permanent mounts13:36
xubuntu914OK, Thanks, Wow, lost, but thanks.... Cheers... Thanks you....13:38
brainwashyou can also use any cloud storage service which offers a linux client and allows syncing via local network13:39
xubuntu914OK, Maybe I should eplain, Old, school, was Windows 2K, with Christmas bonus brought 4 x 3 TiB HDDs, and a stacker (USB and ESats)13:41
xubuntu914Did no know XP could not deal,13:42
xubuntu914And lost since....13:42
cfhowlett!ltsp | xubunt91413:42
ubottuxubunt914: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project13:42
xubuntu914Tried Ubuntu... Never worked with SMB shares....13:43
xubuntu914Tried KbUntub   ... ditto...13:43
xubuntu914What is the trick to share from a Xubuntu machine with 12 TiB drives all USB onto Win networks ????13:44
koegsxubuntu914: long time no see, samba works fine and is reliable13:45
koegsi am still waiting for the day you will provide some details13:45
xubuntu914??  Details ?? me ??13:46
koegsyes13:47
koegseverytime you come here, complain about samba not working and everytime i am asking for your config and i get none13:47
xubuntu914OK, VERY sorry about that... really very sorry...... Please hekp13:48
cfhowlettxubuntu914, kind of rule here ... no detailz no helpz13:48
koegsxubuntu914: so for once, please provide your smb.conf13:50
xubuntu914I do not, truely, underdstand ICP, this is all new to me.....   When you ask for details, .....  Oh, then <cfhowlett>....  FUBAR on this, was looking for hlep and get the ass... BUY !!13:52
koegswhat an idiot13:53
koegseverytime the same13:53
jaltHi, how can I edit the traditional Applications Menu (not Whiskermenu) with MenuLibre (Xubuntu 14.04.1 up-to-date, x86)? It is impossible to remove items and hiding them causes them to disappear from the whole menu (including subcategories). As an example, how can I remove Ubuntu Software Center from the top-level but keep it in Settings?14:34
jaltThe solution to my previous question regarding customizing the Applications Menu with Menulibre turned out to be simple: use alacarte instead, which worked immediately and intuitively. Can someone point me to a discussion thread that shows the rationale for changing the default menu and menu editor? Because right now it looks like two misses...15:49
m__hi! i'm newbie, and i have trouble, how to install another theme16:24
m__my folder: /home/m/.themes, i does have it16:24
m__on website, they said: Copy the extracted theme directory to ~/.themes , but where is it ?16:25
m__....?16:27
m__in /usr/share/themes/ , Owner is Root and i can't do anything, i can't paste my theme into this16:32
m__someone help ????16:41
m__....16:41
mucuscan't you put it in your user?16:43
m__how i can ?16:44
m__my account type is Admin but i can't do anything16:45
m__????16:45
_littlebhi people, is there someone who installed oh-my-zsh on xubuntu?17:09
holstein_littleb: this person states how to install it.. https://gist.github.com/tsabat/149839317:12
_littlebholstein: got it solved, had an issue with one of it's themes17:13
holstein_littleb: cool!17:15
brainwashjalt: menulibre is more powerful and stable, it's also actively maintained. so, if you encounter any bugs or missing features, please file a bug report on launchpad17:26
jaltthanks brainwash. after further research it appears the problem lies fundamentally on the way .desktop files are handled in xfce (and possibly other desktops), and it just happens that alacarte handles them in a more intuitive way for the user17:27
brainwashI usually just edit desktop files or the menu files manually :)17:30
jaltyes, that would be my next step, but the .config file hierarchy is messy, and judging by the number of people who reported problems online, not intuitive at all17:31
brainwashplease file a report. it will help to improve menulibre, so it will become the ultimate solution one day17:32
jaltit's already filed in several bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/menulibre17:34
brainwashI see17:35
jaltthe problem lies in the subpar documentation from freedesktop.org regarding the implementation of .desktop directives, as far as i could tell. in the end it's up to the specific app/desktop env. to decide how to map and categorize things17:36
jaltfrom what i could tell, currently the defaults are sourced (read-only), so you can't really edit them in menulibre17:37
jaltyou have to copy them somewhere to your profile and that will somehow override them defaults17:37
jaltor along those lines17:37
jaltof course that doesn't solve issues with installing new apps that will have their own .desktop files that may or may not be compatible with the user-designed structure17:38
brainwashit's messy :/17:38
jaltyes17:38
jalti have been following debian ctte discusiion on that too, kinda wait and see situation17:38
jalti like the traditional windows approach where all you have is a normal folder tree with shortcuts :)17:39
SahibDerpHello!20:17
drchello20:18
SahibDerpI don't know how, but somehow I am on the internet while installing Xubuntu!20:18
SahibDerpI think it's because this is actually a Live CD with restrictions!20:18
drcThe LiveDVD/USB has provisions for that, it's normal for Xubuntu to all sucj connections while installing.  It helps if there's a problem while installing.20:19
SahibDerpBut when you are installing, you can only go to the Internet.20:19
drcI don't understand the problem?20:20
SahibDerpThere's only a limited XFCE environment.20:20
SahibDerpYou can't run debugging tools, or write documents while installing Xubuntu.20:20
SahibDerpIf this installer had a desktop, you could have WAY more fun installing Xubuntu.20:21
SahibDerpYou could download a few games and play those.20:21
drcIf you had done the "preview" Xubuntu, you could wander around the system AND install Xubuntu to your machine.20:22
SahibDerpThe problem is, I am using VMWare Workstation to install Ubuntu, and it's "Easy  Install" feature completely skips the menu, and automates the install process.20:23
drcYou could ahve said that at the start.20:23
SahibDerpYou put your user name and password before hand through the VM creation screen, and then you install it.20:23
SahibDerpThe thing is, there is absolutely NO way to disable this feature20:24
drcI still don't see what's the problem?20:24
SahibDerpThat means you have to wait for the install process to finish before you can wander around.20:24
drcIt's a VMWare Workstation problem, not a Xubuntu problem.20:24
SahibDerpBut this is the #xubuntu chat channel, and I think you can talk about anything Xubuntu-related.20:24
drcThis channel is a support channel, if you want to chat go to #xubuntu-offtopic20:25
SahibDerpOh, thanks for the note20:25
drcNot a real problem but they like to keep the support separate form the chat :)20:26
SahibDerpSorry for channel jumping!20:36
SahibDerpI installed Xubuntu first-hand, then I installed LXDE over it, but whenever I try to login, even with the right user name and password, it takes me back to the login screen.20:37
drcNot a problem...lots of folks (well, the hardcore at least) are logged into multiple channels.  The only problem arises when they ask the same question in more than one channel.20:38
SahibDerpI don't know if this is a Xubuntu problem, or a LXDE problem.20:38
drcAre you trying to log into Xubuntu or LDXS20:39
drcLXDE20:39
SahibDerpBoth.20:39
SahibDerpI tried logging in to the LXDE session, brings me back.20:39
SahibDerpLogged into the XFCE session, brings me back.20:39
SahibDerpNo matter what, it brings me back.20:39
drcTry logging into a guest session and see what happens20:41
SahibDerpgtg bye20:41
jarnos"exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator" opens xfce4-terminal in my system, but why does not the following work?: exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator --title="top" --command="top"21:29
knomei don't think exo passes parameters for the terminal21:35
knomeonly the command it is supposed to run21:35
knome"exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator top" will run top21:36
knomethere are other ways to affect the terminal title, even per application, if that's you want, but that's a different story21:37
jarnosknome, yes, I want to give title to a terminal window. Ideally, I would be able to give title in panel launcher preferences.21:40
knomenot possible with exo. run xfce4-terminal directly21:40
jarnosknome, shame21:50
knomejarnos, exo isn't supposed to be an all-around too, it's a tool that is supposed to know the default handler for a file21:57
knomejarnos, you can obviously even create your own wrapper around exo if you wish... but since you only seem to be trying to achieve one specific thing, i don't know why you don't just run the terminal directly21:58
jarnosknome, man page of exo-open tells you can give parameters for launchers.22:00
knomejarnos, it means you can give a list of parameters for exo; you can list several applications or files/urls you want to open22:00
knomejarnos, not that you can pass parameters for the default handlers22:00
jarnosknome, I wish you could give title for terminal emulator using exo-open. It is easier to find a window, if it has a special title.22:16
knomejarnos, i understand, but as i explained, exo isn't the tool to do that22:16
knomejarnos, you can set xfce4-terminal to catch the title of the running program if you want to do that22:16
jarnosknome, it could be.22:16
jarnosknome, IMO should be22:17
jarnosknome, if it can pass the command to terminal, why couldn't it pass title?22:18
knomeif the user running exo-open is running because he doesn't know which application will open, how does he know which parameters he should pass? - no, it shouldn't.22:18
knomewe'll stop the discussion about that here now22:18
jarnosknome, and continue to disagree.22:22
rosaecaeruleaehow do I make xubuntu standby, regardeless of the app in sue? vlc for instance22:59
rosaecaeruleaeuse22:59
KomiaPoikahi23:04
knomehello23:07
elfyKomiaPoika: best to just get on and ask the question :)23:09
drcah, I was wanting to play 20 questions :(23:09
KomiaPoikaso i want to prepare a pc to multiboot windows xp with xubuntu, so i prepared on the boot disk a partition of 512mb dos to put some files on /dev/sdb1 and a secondary hd with 60gigs elsewhere. to put grub should i type grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sdb ?23:12
KomiaPoikaxubuntu's /boot is on /dev/sdb223:13
* KomiaPoika gazes23:16
elfysounds a bit convoluted to me to be frank23:18
elfyback when I did dual boot - I just installed and let grub deal with booting win2k - worked fine23:18
elfywhy have you got /boot seperate ?23:19
KomiaPoikait didn't work in a simpler way cos windows would delete grub and grub would not install itself over windows xp's mbr because of a bug windows putting some file in the worng sector range23:19
KomiaPoikaso windows won't nuke the whole install if it overwrites linux's /boot23:20
drcKomiaPoika: You install win first then Linux23:20
deshipuwindows will nuke it anyways23:20
KomiaPoikatried that didn't work because one of the hd's is ata and only linux sees it23:20
KomiaPoikai will reinstall grub from the install dvd afterwards but i need to know first if this syntax is correct23:21
KomiaPoikagrub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sdb23:21
KomiaPoikawith /boot on /dev/sdb223:21
KomiaPoikais that correct?23:21
KomiaPoikacos i read in the faq you shouldn't put the partition number23:21
elfythat's correct23:23
elfyish23:23
elfyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_223:24
elfyhave a look there23:24
KomiaPoikaoh great23:26
KomiaPoikai didn't even install grub and grub is screwed from my partitioning after first reboot23:27
KomiaPoikagrub rescue>23:27
KomiaPoika...23:27
elfygo with the same link - Fixing a Broken System > via the LiveCD terminal23:31
KomiaPoikayes i had that exact same link and know these commands off the top of my head now23:33
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elfytry installing grub to the partition then - I do that for temp installs - you can I think edit the win boot to include linux23:36
elfyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/62440/is-it-possible-to-boot-ubuntu-using-the-windows-bootloader23:36
elfyit's going to be google fu I think - but it is possible23:38
elfyor if no-one shouts out in here you could try #ubuntu23:38
KomiaPoikai'm trying to multiboot windows xp so forget about the windows bootloader23:42
elfymmm23:43
elfydoesn't matter how you multiboot surely?23:44
elfyjust so long as you can23:44
KomiaPoikayes23:54
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KomiaPoikai have to reinstall the whole thing again23:57
KomiaPoikagrub didn't fix it23:58
KomiaPoikai'm sick of it23:59
KomiaPoikai will install linux only on that box23:59

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