[00:54] <xubuntu54w> hello i need help concerning windows drivers
[05:25] <trompstomp> join #chromium
[05:34] <austin_> Hello I'm Austin
[05:35] <mucus> so you are
[05:35] <austin_> I'm doing good but I have a problem I have xubuntu on Virtual Box and its kinda laggy anyone else using virtual box?
[05:37] <mucus> is okie for me
[06:38] <octetcloud> running 14.10, xubuntu, with NetworkManager (the default) -> I never get password prompts! Suggestions?
[06:39] <octetcloud> ... I mean wifi password prompts. makes it impossible to connect to new wifi nets, the old ones work fine
[07:28] <xubuntu92w> Hello everyone! So I am having trouble booting into Xubuntu after installing it on my Toshiba laptop. It says "Reboot and select proper boot device" so I used the boot repair which fixed it to boot once, but if I restart it goes back to the same screen. Here is my screen
[07:28] <xubuntu92w> is my boot repair link*
[07:29] <xubuntu92w> paste.ubuntu.com/9680070
[07:47] <ObrienDave> ok, two issues, you did not install grub to the proper boot partition and you have a UEFI system. i don't know enough about either to give you proper guidance
[07:48] <ObrienDave> but if you ask in the #ubuntu channel, there are plenty of people there to help you
[08:15] <superprower> Hello again. In windows, when you press middle button of mouse, you can scroll page by moving a mouse. Is there a way to enable option like this in xubuntu?
[09:25] <function9x> hi I'd like to know does the Removable Storage save it's settings to a config file? I'd like to modify that file manually
[12:12] <GeoMint> hi
[12:13] <slickymasterWork> !hi
[12:14] <GeoMint> i want to set my computer when i close the lid to shutdown. but i can not find how to do it in settings editor
[12:15] <cfhowlett> GeoMint, on xubuntu????
[12:15] <GeoMint> yes
[12:18] <GeoMint> i am in settings editor now, in xfce4-power-manager tab
[12:18] <GeoMint> i searched but i didn't found anything
[12:19] <cfhowlett> GeoMint, ask #xfce
[12:19] <GeoMint> ok
[12:22] <GeoMint> cfhowlett, i do think that anyone will answer me
[12:22] <GeoMint> donot*
[12:22] <GeoMint> do not*
[12:23] <cfhowlett> GeoMint, ask their forums.  they ARE the experts on xfce ...
[12:28] <KomiaPoika> hi
[12:29] <KomiaPoika> i installed windows on an old pc's first hd, then xubuntu on the other hd but it didn't leave me a chance to setup grub at install time. now when the pc boots it goes straight into windows. how do i use the install dvd to set up grub on the pc?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !grub | KomiaPoika, reinstall grub
[12:31] <KomiaPoika> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:31] <cfhowlett> KomiaPoika, happy2help!
[12:35] <KomiaPoika> cfhowlett: is boot-repair available on the 10.04.01 install dvd?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> KomiaPoika, eh ... maybe???
[12:36] <cfhowlett> KomiaPoika, wait, you're running 10.04???
[12:39] <KomiaPoika> xubuntu-14.04.1
[12:39] <KomiaPoika> sorry 14
[12:42] <KomiaPoika> cfhowlett: how can i Install and run Boot-Repair from the xubuntu live dvd boot?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> KomiaPoika, never done boot repair.  I have installed grub ...
[12:44] <KomiaPoika> xubuntu install didn't offer me to install grub at install time :(
[12:45] <cfhowlett> komiapoika understood.  so?  post install works just find.
[12:45] <cfhowlett> *fine*
[12:49] <KomiaPoika> re
[12:58] <GeoMint> hi again
[12:59] <GeoMint> cfhowlett, they helped me change the setting but when i go to restart systemd-logind it says Operation Error
[12:59] <cfhowlett> GeoMint, nothing more??
[13:00] <KomiaPoika> it says Do not use the partition number with the grub-install command. but not doing so it didn't install anything :(
[13:00] <GeoMint> cfhowlett,  Failed to get D-Bus connection: Operation not permitted
[13:00] <KomiaPoika> oh may be i installed it the wrong partition
[13:00] <cfhowlett> GeoMint, ask in #ubuntu ... more eyes
[13:00] <GeoMint> ohh :/
[13:01] <cfhowlett> ?? yeah, you really do need to check that  :)
[13:01] <GeoMint> i will to ask in 50 different irc :P
[13:01] <GeoMint> will have*
[13:15] <KomiaPoika> grub avoided flexnet a
[13:15] <KomiaPoika> so
[13:15] <KomiaPoika> i didn't
[13:15] <KomiaPoika> i still don't have grub at boot :(
[13:27] <xubuntu914> hello, can anyone help with networking between XuBuntu and Windows please ?
[13:28] <xubuntu914> Samba does not work, crashes... out..
[13:29] <xubuntu914> Any other apps that are better ?
[13:30] <brainwash> !samba
[13:31] <xubuntu914> Thanks. ?? But...
[13:31] <deshipu> xubuntu914: I don't think that Windows supports any sane protocols out of the box
[13:31] <brainwash> you could try to fix your samba issue
[13:32] <xubuntu914> If I was to move all my machies too XuBuntu, what would they use as a network ?
[13:33] <brainwash> !nfs
[13:35] <deshipu> or just scp
[13:35] <deshipu> for transferring files
[13:35] <deshipu> !scp
[13:36] <deshipu> there is also sshfs for more permanent mounts
[13:38] <xubuntu914> OK, Thanks, Wow, lost, but thanks.... Cheers... Thanks you....
[13:39] <brainwash> you can also use any cloud storage service which offers a linux client and allows syncing via local network
[13:41] <xubuntu914> OK, Maybe I should eplain, Old, school, was Windows 2K, with Christmas bonus brought 4 x 3 TiB HDDs, and a stacker (USB and ESats)
[13:42] <xubuntu914> Did no know XP could not deal,
[13:42] <xubuntu914> And lost since....
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !ltsp | xubunt914
[13:43] <xubuntu914> Tried Ubuntu... Never worked with SMB shares....
[13:43] <xubuntu914> Tried KbUntub   ... ditto...
[13:44] <xubuntu914> What is the trick to share from a Xubuntu machine with 12 TiB drives all USB onto Win networks ????
[13:45] <koegs> xubuntu914: long time no see, samba works fine and is reliable
[13:45] <koegs> i am still waiting for the day you will provide some details
[13:46] <xubuntu914> ??  Details ?? me ??
[13:47] <koegs> yes
[13:47] <koegs> everytime you come here, complain about samba not working and everytime i am asking for your config and i get none
[13:48] <xubuntu914> OK, VERY sorry about that... really very sorry...... Please hekp
[13:48] <cfhowlett> xubuntu914, kind of rule here ... no detailz no helpz
[13:50] <koegs> xubuntu914: so for once, please provide your smb.conf
[13:52] <xubuntu914> I do not, truely, underdstand ICP, this is all new to me.....   When you ask for details, .....  Oh, then <cfhowlett>....  FUBAR on this, was looking for hlep and get the ass... BUY !!
[13:53] <koegs> what an idiot
[13:53] <koegs> everytime the same
[14:34] <jalt> Hi, how can I edit the traditional Applications Menu (not Whiskermenu) with MenuLibre (Xubuntu 14.04.1 up-to-date, x86)? It is impossible to remove items and hiding them causes them to disappear from the whole menu (including subcategories). As an example, how can I remove Ubuntu Software Center from the top-level but keep it in Settings?
[15:49] <jalt> The solution to my previous question regarding customizing the Applications Menu with Menulibre turned out to be simple: use alacarte instead, which worked immediately and intuitively. Can someone point me to a discussion thread that shows the rationale for changing the default menu and menu editor? Because right now it looks like two misses...
[16:24] <m__> hi! i'm newbie, and i have trouble, how to install another theme
[16:24] <m__> my folder: /home/m/.themes, i does have it
[16:25] <m__> on website, they said: Copy the extracted theme directory to ~/.themes , but where is it ?
[16:27] <m__> ....?
[16:32] <m__> in /usr/share/themes/ , Owner is Root and i can't do anything, i can't paste my theme into this
[16:41] <m__> someone help ????
[16:41] <m__> ....
[16:43] <mucus> can't you put it in your user?
[16:44] <m__> how i can ?
[16:45] <m__> my account type is Admin but i can't do anything
[16:45] <m__> ????
[17:09] <_littleb> hi people, is there someone who installed oh-my-zsh on xubuntu?
[17:12] <holstein> _littleb: this person states how to install it.. https://gist.github.com/tsabat/1498393
[17:13] <_littleb> holstein: got it solved, had an issue with one of it's themes
[17:15] <holstein> _littleb: cool!
[17:26] <brainwash> jalt: menulibre is more powerful and stable, it's also actively maintained. so, if you encounter any bugs or missing features, please file a bug report on launchpad
[17:27] <jalt> thanks brainwash. after further research it appears the problem lies fundamentally on the way .desktop files are handled in xfce (and possibly other desktops), and it just happens that alacarte handles them in a more intuitive way for the user
[17:30] <brainwash> I usually just edit desktop files or the menu files manually :)
[17:31] <jalt> yes, that would be my next step, but the .config file hierarchy is messy, and judging by the number of people who reported problems online, not intuitive at all
[17:32] <brainwash> please file a report. it will help to improve menulibre, so it will become the ultimate solution one day
[17:34] <jalt> it's already filed in several bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/menulibre
[17:35] <brainwash> I see
[17:36] <jalt> the problem lies in the subpar documentation from freedesktop.org regarding the implementation of .desktop directives, as far as i could tell. in the end it's up to the specific app/desktop env. to decide how to map and categorize things
[17:37] <jalt> from what i could tell, currently the defaults are sourced (read-only), so you can't really edit them in menulibre
[17:37] <jalt> you have to copy them somewhere to your profile and that will somehow override them defaults
[17:37] <jalt> or along those lines
[17:38] <jalt> of course that doesn't solve issues with installing new apps that will have their own .desktop files that may or may not be compatible with the user-designed structure
[17:38] <brainwash> it's messy :/
[17:38] <jalt> yes
[17:38] <jalt> i have been following debian ctte discusiion on that too, kinda wait and see situation
[17:39] <jalt> i like the traditional windows approach where all you have is a normal folder tree with shortcuts :)
[20:17] <SahibDerp> Hello!
[20:18] <drc> hello
[20:18] <SahibDerp> I don't know how, but somehow I am on the internet while installing Xubuntu!
[20:18] <SahibDerp> I think it's because this is actually a Live CD with restrictions!
[20:19] <drc> The LiveDVD/USB has provisions for that, it's normal for Xubuntu to all sucj connections while installing.  It helps if there's a problem while installing.
[20:19] <SahibDerp> But when you are installing, you can only go to the Internet.
[20:20] <drc> I don't understand the problem?
[20:20] <SahibDerp> There's only a limited XFCE environment.
[20:20] <SahibDerp> You can't run debugging tools, or write documents while installing Xubuntu.
[20:21] <SahibDerp> If this installer had a desktop, you could have WAY more fun installing Xubuntu.
[20:21] <SahibDerp> You could download a few games and play those.
[20:22] <drc> If you had done the "preview" Xubuntu, you could wander around the system AND install Xubuntu to your machine.
[20:23] <SahibDerp> The problem is, I am using VMWare Workstation to install Ubuntu, and it's "Easy  Install" feature completely skips the menu, and automates the install process.
[20:23] <drc> You could ahve said that at the start.
[20:23] <SahibDerp> You put your user name and password before hand through the VM creation screen, and then you install it.
[20:24] <SahibDerp> The thing is, there is absolutely NO way to disable this feature
[20:24] <drc> I still don't see what's the problem?
[20:24] <SahibDerp> That means you have to wait for the install process to finish before you can wander around.
[20:24] <drc> It's a VMWare Workstation problem, not a Xubuntu problem.
[20:24] <SahibDerp> But this is the #xubuntu chat channel, and I think you can talk about anything Xubuntu-related.
[20:25] <drc> This channel is a support channel, if you want to chat go to #xubuntu-offtopic
[20:25] <SahibDerp> Oh, thanks for the note
[20:26] <drc> Not a real problem but they like to keep the support separate form the chat :)
[20:36] <SahibDerp> Sorry for channel jumping!
[20:37] <SahibDerp> I installed Xubuntu first-hand, then I installed LXDE over it, but whenever I try to login, even with the right user name and password, it takes me back to the login screen.
[20:38] <drc> Not a problem...lots of folks (well, the hardcore at least) are logged into multiple channels.  The only problem arises when they ask the same question in more than one channel.
[20:38] <SahibDerp> I don't know if this is a Xubuntu problem, or a LXDE problem.
[20:39] <drc> Are you trying to log into Xubuntu or LDXS
[20:39] <drc> LXDE
[20:39] <SahibDerp> Both.
[20:39] <SahibDerp> I tried logging in to the LXDE session, brings me back.
[20:39] <SahibDerp> Logged into the XFCE session, brings me back.
[20:39] <SahibDerp> No matter what, it brings me back.
[20:41] <drc> Try logging into a guest session and see what happens
[20:41] <SahibDerp> gtg bye
[21:29] <jarnos> "exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator" opens xfce4-terminal in my system, but why does not the following work?: exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator --title="top" --command="top"
[21:35] <knome> i don't think exo passes parameters for the terminal
[21:35] <knome> only the command it is supposed to run
[21:36] <knome> "exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator top" will run top
[21:37] <knome> there are other ways to affect the terminal title, even per application, if that's you want, but that's a different story
[21:40] <jarnos> knome, yes, I want to give title to a terminal window. Ideally, I would be able to give title in panel launcher preferences.
[21:40] <knome> not possible with exo. run xfce4-terminal directly
[21:50] <jarnos> knome, shame
[21:57] <knome> jarnos, exo isn't supposed to be an all-around too, it's a tool that is supposed to know the default handler for a file
[21:58] <knome> jarnos, you can obviously even create your own wrapper around exo if you wish... but since you only seem to be trying to achieve one specific thing, i don't know why you don't just run the terminal directly
[22:00] <jarnos> knome, man page of exo-open tells you can give parameters for launchers.
[22:00] <knome> jarnos, it means you can give a list of parameters for exo; you can list several applications or files/urls you want to open
[22:00] <knome> jarnos, not that you can pass parameters for the default handlers
[22:16] <jarnos> knome, I wish you could give title for terminal emulator using exo-open. It is easier to find a window, if it has a special title.
[22:16] <knome> jarnos, i understand, but as i explained, exo isn't the tool to do that
[22:16] <knome> jarnos, you can set xfce4-terminal to catch the title of the running program if you want to do that
[22:16] <jarnos> knome, it could be.
[22:17] <jarnos> knome, IMO should be
[22:18] <jarnos> knome, if it can pass the command to terminal, why couldn't it pass title?
[22:18] <knome> if the user running exo-open is running because he doesn't know which application will open, how does he know which parameters he should pass? - no, it shouldn't.
[22:18] <knome> we'll stop the discussion about that here now
[22:22] <jarnos> knome, and continue to disagree.
[22:59] <rosaecaeruleae> how do I make xubuntu standby, regardeless of the app in sue? vlc for instance
[22:59] <rosaecaeruleae> use
[23:04] <KomiaPoika> hi
[23:07] <knome> hello
[23:09] <elfy> KomiaPoika: best to just get on and ask the question :)
[23:09] <drc> ah, I was wanting to play 20 questions :(
[23:12] <KomiaPoika> so i want to prepare a pc to multiboot windows xp with xubuntu, so i prepared on the boot disk a partition of 512mb dos to put some files on /dev/sdb1 and a secondary hd with 60gigs elsewhere. to put grub should i type grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sdb ?
[23:13] <KomiaPoika> xubuntu's /boot is on /dev/sdb2
[23:16]  * KomiaPoika gazes
[23:18] <elfy> sounds a bit convoluted to me to be frank
[23:18] <elfy> back when I did dual boot - I just installed and let grub deal with booting win2k - worked fine
[23:19] <elfy> why have you got /boot seperate ?
[23:19] <KomiaPoika> it didn't work in a simpler way cos windows would delete grub and grub would not install itself over windows xp's mbr because of a bug windows putting some file in the worng sector range
[23:20] <KomiaPoika> so windows won't nuke the whole install if it overwrites linux's /boot
[23:20] <drc> KomiaPoika: You install win first then Linux
[23:20] <deshipu> windows will nuke it anyways
[23:20] <KomiaPoika> tried that didn't work because one of the hd's is ata and only linux sees it
[23:21] <KomiaPoika> i will reinstall grub from the install dvd afterwards but i need to know first if this syntax is correct
[23:21] <KomiaPoika> grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sdb
[23:21] <KomiaPoika> with /boot on /dev/sdb2
[23:21] <KomiaPoika> is that correct?
[23:21] <KomiaPoika> cos i read in the faq you shouldn't put the partition number
[23:23] <elfy> that's correct
[23:23] <elfy> ish
[23:24] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[23:24] <elfy> have a look there
[23:26] <KomiaPoika> oh great
[23:27] <KomiaPoika> i didn't even install grub and grub is screwed from my partitioning after first reboot
[23:27] <KomiaPoika> grub rescue>
[23:27] <KomiaPoika> ...
[23:31] <elfy> go with the same link - Fixing a Broken System > via the LiveCD terminal
[23:33] <KomiaPoika> yes i had that exact same link and know these commands off the top of my head now
[23:36] <elfy> try installing grub to the partition then - I do that for temp installs - you can I think edit the win boot to include linux
[23:36] <elfy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/62440/is-it-possible-to-boot-ubuntu-using-the-windows-bootloader
[23:38] <elfy> it's going to be google fu I think - but it is possible
[23:38] <elfy> or if no-one shouts out in here you could try #ubuntu
[23:42] <KomiaPoika> i'm trying to multiboot windows xp so forget about the windows bootloader
[23:43] <elfy> mmm
[23:44] <elfy> doesn't matter how you multiboot surely?
[23:44] <elfy> just so long as you can
[23:54] <KomiaPoika> yes
[23:57] <KomiaPoika> i have to reinstall the whole thing again
[23:58] <KomiaPoika> grub didn't fix it
[23:59] <KomiaPoika> i'm sick of it
[23:59] <KomiaPoika> i will install linux only on that box