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jadergabrielhi05:00
jadergabrieldo you have contact with translate team of Brasil?05:00
valoriethe KDE team? or Ubuntu team05:11
valoriewe communicate with both05:11
valorieto clarify: KDE applications and documentation is translated by the KDE translate teams05:12
valoriewhile ubuntu software and documentation is handled by the ubuntu translation teams05:13
valoriekubuntu-specific software is sometimes one, sometimes the other05:14
valoriehttps://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Translation for more specific information05:15
WarodHi. With what command can I start plasma 5 desktop from command line as user? Trying to run it on display 0 with xvfb but cannot figure out what's the correct way to start the desktop environment nowdays.08:07
Warod(14.10)08:08
valorieWarod: try `plasmashell &`08:08
Warodah. so I got it running the first time but it crashed. :)08:12
WarodThanks! Got the error popup this time though. ;)08:13
lordievaderGood morning.10:32
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BluesKajHiyas all13:04
reeedhi all i need help. I'm trying to boot up 14.04 LTS but it fails after GRUB with a black screen. If I choose Safe mode, I can see that it hangs while setting up the first ramdisk. How to restore the ramdisk image without a complete reinstall ?13:19
BluesKajreeed, can you get to a VT/TTY ? ctl+alt+F1-F6. if so, login and update and upgrade if you have internet13:22
reeedno it won't boot at all.13:23
BluesKajso you're trying the recovery kernel13:23
reeedi'm running on live CD now13:24
BluesKajyes, but when you say safe mode you mean the recovery kernelm correct ?13:25
reeedah yes I tried whatever options were shown to me in GRUB menu13:25
BluesKajok13:25
reeedi'm trying to nail down the issue. It looks like initrd.img is corrupted13:26
reeedis that possible?13:26
reeedor is this a red herring?13:26
reeedbefore I reboot, 14.04 LTS was already acting strange. I couldn't update / install packages13:26
BluesKajdunno, are you on an EUFI/BIOS machine ?13:27
reeedBIOS probably13:27
reeed5 year old laptop ?13:27
reeedpossible to copy over initrd.img from a live CD (or even FTP?) to my filesystem?13:28
BluesKajok, that eliminates one possible issue13:28
reeeddoes the recovery kernel also load the same initrd.img ?13:29
BluesKajdunno, never heard of that13:29
BluesKajreeed, do you really need a LTS ? , because 14.04 IME was never quite right and it's still buggy. Kubuntu 14.10 is more stable and solid on my machines13:34
reeedok13:34
reeedpehaps it's time to reinstall and upgrade to 14.10 anyway13:35
reeedthx for your help13:35
BluesKajreeed, I'm positive 14.10 will be a better experience for you13:37
reeedfingers crossed :)13:37
BluesKaj:let us know how it goes13:37
reeedok i'll check back13:38
BluesKajthanks, we appreciate the feedback13:38
reeedbut yes after the upgrade to 14.04 things got flaky13:39
reeedI thought it was because I had to reinstall the NVidia driver (manually)13:39
reeedand also because I had wilfully removed 32-bit packages to free up disk space13:39
BluesKajreeed, my nvidia driver was iffy on 14.04 if recall13:40
reeedbut strange things happened. my Kubuntu menu and login screen both did not allow me to shutdown/restart the machine13:40
reeedthe option was greyed out13:40
BluesKajthat's new to me ...I had freeze and crash problems snd media player like vlc wouldn't load etc13:42
reeedno freezes for me. but yes you reminded me, pulseaudio/ALSA gave me problems.13:43
reeedstuttering sound as user, fine as root.13:43
BluesKajmost likelyn pulse13:43
reeedi'm looking for  kubuntu mirror sites now...13:44
BluesKajif you have an intel audio chip , pulse audio isn't usually necessary13:44
reeedi dunno ... isn't it all pre-installed / pre-configured ?13:45
BluesKajhttp://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu13:46
reeedso few mirros?13:47
BluesKajreeed, yes pulse is default , but I removed it from my laptop and the audio still works fine , even on flash sites like youtube13:47
reeedwell i tried that and it didn't go well.13:48
reeedsomehow removing pulseaudio caused the kernel modules to be unloaded !13:48
reeedthe kernel snd modules13:48
BluesKajthen if it's intel , just run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel to reload the driver13:49
BluesKajusually a reboot is required afterwards, and there will be no output from that command if the driver loads properly13:50
reeeddo i need to run modprobe each reboot?13:51
reeedor is it buried in some /etc/rc.d/.... somehwere ?13:51
BluesKajreeed, no13:51
reeedoh another thing that broke after upgrading to 14.04 LTS: I couldn't automount a remote NFS share anymore13:53
reeed(mount-on-access, whatever it's called)13:53
reeedand my SAMBA share also stopped working13:53
BluesKajreeed, yes, i heven't used NFS in awhile , but I've had to reinstall ssh and samba after most upgrades. if you saves your /home dir to a separate partition then the config files are saved when you install the OS to / on it's own partition as well13:58
BluesKajreeed, using separate partitions for / and /home is very handy13:59
reeedyes i'm familiar with that from my FreeBSD days...14:01
reeedbut got lazy when I switched to Linux14:01
BluesKajhey soee14:08
soeehiho BluesKaj14:09
BluesKajhow did the upgrade go yesterda, soee14:09
BluesKaji had to leave, so i missed your return14:10
soeewell like you said, it removed severla packages liek konversation, kmail,kagregator knotes etc (all related to akonadi i think)14:11
soeethan i had to do updates twice and finally heve them all14:11
soee*have14:12
soeethe only issue is like i mentione dyesterday that propritety drivers does not work with current kernel/systemd14:12
soeebrb14:12
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brandon_lnxHello, are any admins of the Kubuntu forums here?  Trying to get in touch with them, as I can't register nor contact them on their site.  Their server is having a captcha problem for the past few days.15:41
ramchandranot a forum but what exactly?15:43
ramchandraI'd suggest posting on the forum, I guess they would read that15:43
brandon_lnxI can't register for the kubuntu forums, that's the problem.15:44
brandon_lnxSo I can't post there, if I can't register there.  It's the forums linked on kubuntu's own page.15:44
brandon_lnx"Image verification could not be verified due to server issues. Please try again later."15:44
brandon_lnxI can't even attempt to just do a contact us there either, because it's the same error.  It's been like this, and I'm not sure the admins are aware since their server upgrade, that the captcha process is actually broken.15:45
ramchandraah, that's sad. I guess you'll have to wait till one of the admins see this.15:45
brandon_lnxThat's why I was hoping one of them were here.  While here though I could ask my question here for the time being.  Better anyway to talk live about it.15:47
brandon_lnxon a brand NEW account, going to Settings, Application Appearance, clicking the font tab on the left, then GTK, results in an immediate crash on the settings application..   Kubuntu 14.10, all updated btw.15:48
ramchandrahmm, I think quite possible gtk isn't installed15:48
ramchandratry installing a gtk app15:48
brandon_lnxShould be though, I have Gimp, Banshee, Xchat, all installed.15:48
brandon_lnxWhen the settings page crashes, I can relaunch it and then the GTK preferences actually open just fine.  But on all new accounts, it's always an imediate first load crash.  I installed fresh on my desktop, and so far, same thing.15:49
brandon_lnxPlanning on doing a ubuntu-bugs on it, but not sure what the package name is called for it.15:49
Anpuhi, anyone tried to run vivid on virtualbox? all i get is colored screen like its on lsd and thats about it15:53
Anpufresh downloaded image15:53
brandon_lnxHave not tried, but is this when the boot image shows, or does it show that (the little icon with the disk at the bottom at boot), or when X "should" be loading?15:54
Anpubrandon_lnx: it shows little icon at the bottom, then kubuntu 15.05 and 4 dots and then probably when it should show desktop, it shows mess15:58
brandon_lnxOk, so I think your issue is happening when X is loading, and where lightdm is supposed to start.  Shot in the dark, but does your virtualbox have the graphics acceleration turned on?15:59
brandon_lnxIf it's not, try turning it on.  If it's on, try turning it off.15:59
Anpuit has enabled 3d acceleration16:00
Anpubut not 2d video acceleration16:00
brandon_lnxTry disabling the 3d acceleration.16:01
ramchandraclick the left arrow button to show syslog16:01
ramchandra(when it's running)16:01
brandon_lnxI'm guessing the LSD show is probably it's poor attempt to running a compositor in opengl16:02
Anpualso if it means, i m on 14.10 plasma 5 preview (host)16:02
brandon_lnxWhen OpenGL messes up, you get stuff like this:  http://owenmundy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/glitch8.png16:03
brandon_lnxI'm guessing that's about similar to what you are probably seeing.16:03
BluesKajvivid suffers from plasma 5/KF5 bugs, the alpha 2 will be released on jan22 should fix some of it's problems16:03
Anputhis is how it looks, tried also to disable 3d acc http://www.dodaj.rs/f/v/Es/4FgAlOPt/vivid.png16:04
brandon_lnxthat's no opengl glitch16:04
brandon_lnxlooks like it's actually in a text mode almost.16:05
brandon_lnxI'm gonna try a test for you.  Did you get 14.04 Kubuntu as a 32-bit or a 64-bit?16:05
Anpui can "recognize" a giant mouse pointer when moving mouse through this color forest16:05
brandon_lnxI'm gonna fire up my work computer and try it.  It's on Xubuntu though.16:05
Anpu6416:05
brandon_lnxok..16:05
brandon_lnxGive me about 10 minutes.  I'm definitely gonna try this.16:05
Anpuok thanks a bunch16:06
Anpumy idea was to toy a little before deciding to roll it on my machine16:06
brandon_lnxSee to me your screenshot looks like text mode, based on the appearance of "cells"..16:06
brandon_lnxSo it's likely a virtualization bug, not so much as a bug on the hosts part, in my opinion.16:07
Anpubrandon_lnx: see this one: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2S/eK/1T1xSdgh/vivid1.png16:08
Anpuwhen i move my mouse i eventually see giant mouse pointer16:08
Anpuand colors change while moving mouse16:08
Anputhe red circled one can be moved left or roght or even disappear while moving mouse16:09
Anputhats why  i assumed it is a mouse16:09
brandon_lnxYep, Xorg thinks it's in a graphical mode but Virtualbox is in a text mode16:10
Anpuaha ok, got it16:10
Anpujust tried 14.04 i had installed and its ok, so vbox and vivid have an issue16:11
brandon_lnxlooks actually like 132x25 mode 0109h.  :P16:11
brandon_lnxOk, yea my work computer is still installing virtualbox and downloading the image.16:11
brandon_lnxI may have a 170mbps internet pipe, but the server only goes so fast.16:12
Anpu:)16:12
brandon_lnxwow virtualbox is still installing..  apparently 32gb ram and 8x Xeon cores aren't fast enough for it, haha16:16
Anpuits not the best, but for quick tests it works for me16:23
brandon_lnxSorry for crude potato picture, my computer has software running that prevents screen captures:  http://i.imgur.com/EKJQSFA.jpg16:32
brandon_lnxThat's my result.16:32
Anpubrandon_lnx: ok thanks. i ll test later on kde 4, could be that tech preview of plasma5 has an issue16:36
brandon_lnxWho knows.  I'm on Xubuntu 14.10.  I don't think honestly, that the host should matter, especially when in software render mode, but who knows.16:38
sacardehi16:39
sacardeis this the right channel for support on kubuntu-plasma5 ?16:39
soeesacarde: more or less :)16:47
sacardeI run last iso unstable-kubuntu on qemu (plasma5) but when start live session, I dont view anything16:50
sacardeonly cursor-mouse on black screen16:50
soee_seems like plasmashell does not starts16:51
soee_try to press ALT + F2 to open krunner16:51
soee_and type: plasmashell16:51
sacardeI try to collect all messages16:55
KrypticI was referred here by a Ubuntu user. I want to reinstall Ubuntu (i installed so much crap, its faster to just download another .isp), but I figured I might as well try out a deritative. So I came to Kubuntu and Xubuntu17:44
KrypticWhich is more customizable?17:44
soee_no idea never used xubuntu :-)17:46
soee_xubuntu is known as more lighter and needs less resources17:46
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soeekubuntu is very customazable17:46
KrypticSoee_: Is it more customizable than Xubuntu? I love widgets. .17:47
KrypticLike how customizable is it? Screenshot, perhaps?17:47
soeeKryptic: just search on youtube17:55
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sacarde<soee_> try to press ALT + F2 to open krunner19:41
sacardein qemu I sendkey: alt-f219:41
sacardebut nothing happend19:48
alessandrogood evening everybody19:49
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lordievadero/20:01
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jgcovre...20:50
sacarde<soee> try to press ALT + F2 to open krunner20:56
sacardein qemu I sendkey: alt-f220:56
sacardebut nothing happend20:56
soeesacarde: sorry im not familiar with qemu20:56
Torican i ask technical questions here, or is there a better channel?21:36
soeeask21:38
ToriI have two problems, perhaps not related, but appeared at the same time: the shutdown, restart and logout butttons in the Leave tab do not work (clicking does nothing). The other problem is that Moun can't install apps and updates and gives this error: "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"21:39
Toritried removing ksmserverrc, as it's a popular solution, but it didn't work.21:41
soeewhat kubuntu version ?21:41
Tori14.1021:41
Torioh, and it persists after multiple restarts21:41
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ToriI can shutdown with the commandline, and if I go to Change USer -> New session and hit shutdwon from there21:43
soeedo you have updtes ppa enabled and installe dthemall ?21:43
Toriyes, and since Moun has problems I had to use apt-get upgrade21:44
soeei remember that there was such problems21:44
soeebut tbh cant say if and when they have been fixed as im running Vivid some time now21:45
Toriwell, I searched for an anwser before I came here, and this is a reoccurring problem, but usually people report that a restart help, but not in my case21:46
Toriwe could finally find the source of this issue, since I have it all the time, but I don't know how to troubleshoot it.21:47
soeeTori: try asking on Plasma also21:51
soee#plasma21:51
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bonk3rzzupdated using muon to 3.13.0-43 and now computer stalls and logon any ideas i can log on into 3.13.0-39 ( how i am talking to ya now) any ideas how to fix this???22:26
bonk3rzzPM me if anyone has any ideas22:30

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