[05:00] <jadergabriel> hi
[05:00] <jadergabriel> do you have contact with translate team of Brasil?
[05:11] <valorie> the KDE team? or Ubuntu team
[05:11] <valorie> we communicate with both
[05:12] <valorie> to clarify: KDE applications and documentation is translated by the KDE translate teams
[05:13] <valorie> while ubuntu software and documentation is handled by the ubuntu translation teams
[05:14] <valorie> kubuntu-specific software is sometimes one, sometimes the other
[05:15] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Translation for more specific information
[08:07] <Warod> Hi. With what command can I start plasma 5 desktop from command line as user? Trying to run it on display 0 with xvfb but cannot figure out what's the correct way to start the desktop environment nowdays.
[08:08] <Warod> (14.10)
[08:08] <valorie> Warod: try `plasmashell &`
[08:12] <Warod> ah. so I got it running the first time but it crashed. :)
[08:13] <Warod> Thanks! Got the error popup this time though. ;)
[10:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:19] <reeed> hi all i need help. I'm trying to boot up 14.04 LTS but it fails after GRUB with a black screen. If I choose Safe mode, I can see that it hangs while setting up the first ramdisk. How to restore the ramdisk image without a complete reinstall ?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> reeed, can you get to a VT/TTY ? ctl+alt+F1-F6. if so, login and update and upgrade if you have internet
[13:23] <reeed> no it won't boot at all.
[13:23] <BluesKaj> so you're trying the recovery kernel
[13:24] <reeed> i'm running on live CD now
[13:25] <BluesKaj> yes, but when you say safe mode you mean the recovery kernelm correct ?
[13:25] <reeed> ah yes I tried whatever options were shown to me in GRUB menu
[13:25] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:26] <reeed> i'm trying to nail down the issue. It looks like initrd.img is corrupted
[13:26] <reeed> is that possible?
[13:26] <reeed> or is this a red herring?
[13:26] <reeed> before I reboot, 14.04 LTS was already acting strange. I couldn't update / install packages
[13:27] <BluesKaj> dunno, are you on an EUFI/BIOS machine ?
[13:27] <reeed> BIOS probably
[13:27] <reeed> 5 year old laptop ?
[13:28] <reeed> possible to copy over initrd.img from a live CD (or even FTP?) to my filesystem?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> ok, that eliminates one possible issue
[13:29] <reeed> does the recovery kernel also load the same initrd.img ?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> dunno, never heard of that
[13:34] <BluesKaj> reeed, do you really need a LTS ? , because 14.04 IME was never quite right and it's still buggy. Kubuntu 14.10 is more stable and solid on my machines
[13:34] <reeed> ok
[13:35] <reeed> pehaps it's time to reinstall and upgrade to 14.10 anyway
[13:35] <reeed> thx for your help
[13:37] <BluesKaj> reeed, I'm positive 14.10 will be a better experience for you
[13:37] <reeed> fingers crossed :)
[13:37] <BluesKaj> :let us know how it goes
[13:38] <reeed> ok i'll check back
[13:38] <BluesKaj> thanks, we appreciate the feedback
[13:39] <reeed> but yes after the upgrade to 14.04 things got flaky
[13:39] <reeed> I thought it was because I had to reinstall the NVidia driver (manually)
[13:39] <reeed> and also because I had wilfully removed 32-bit packages to free up disk space
[13:40] <BluesKaj> reeed, my nvidia driver was iffy on 14.04 if recall
[13:40] <reeed> but strange things happened. my Kubuntu menu and login screen both did not allow me to shutdown/restart the machine
[13:40] <reeed> the option was greyed out
[13:42] <BluesKaj> that's new to me ...I had freeze and crash problems snd media player like vlc wouldn't load etc
[13:43] <reeed> no freezes for me. but yes you reminded me, pulseaudio/ALSA gave me problems.
[13:43] <reeed> stuttering sound as user, fine as root.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> most likelyn pulse
[13:44] <reeed> i'm looking for  kubuntu mirror sites now...
[13:44] <BluesKaj> if you have an intel audio chip , pulse audio isn't usually necessary
[13:45] <reeed> i dunno ... isn't it all pre-installed / pre-configured ?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[13:47] <reeed> so few mirros?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> reeed, yes pulse is default , but I removed it from my laptop and the audio still works fine , even on flash sites like youtube
[13:48] <reeed> well i tried that and it didn't go well.
[13:48] <reeed> somehow removing pulseaudio caused the kernel modules to be unloaded !
[13:48] <reeed> the kernel snd modules
[13:49] <BluesKaj> then if it's intel , just run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel to reload the driver
[13:50] <BluesKaj> usually a reboot is required afterwards, and there will be no output from that command if the driver loads properly
[13:51] <reeed> do i need to run modprobe each reboot?
[13:51] <reeed> or is it buried in some /etc/rc.d/.... somehwere ?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> reeed, no
[13:53] <reeed> oh another thing that broke after upgrading to 14.04 LTS: I couldn't automount a remote NFS share anymore
[13:53] <reeed> (mount-on-access, whatever it's called)
[13:53] <reeed> and my SAMBA share also stopped working
[13:58] <BluesKaj> reeed, yes, i heven't used NFS in awhile , but I've had to reinstall ssh and samba after most upgrades. if you saves your /home dir to a separate partition then the config files are saved when you install the OS to / on it's own partition as well
[13:59] <BluesKaj> reeed, using separate partitions for / and /home is very handy
[14:01] <reeed> yes i'm familiar with that from my FreeBSD days...
[14:01] <reeed> but got lazy when I switched to Linux
[14:08] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[14:09] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[14:09] <BluesKaj> how did the upgrade go yesterda, soee
[14:10] <BluesKaj> i had to leave, so i missed your return
[14:11] <soee> well like you said, it removed severla packages liek konversation, kmail,kagregator knotes etc (all related to akonadi i think)
[14:11] <soee> than i had to do updates twice and finally heve them all
[14:12] <soee> *have
[14:12] <soee> the only issue is like i mentione dyesterday that propritety drivers does not work with current kernel/systemd
[14:12] <soee> brb
[15:41] <brandon_lnx> Hello, are any admins of the Kubuntu forums here?  Trying to get in touch with them, as I can't register nor contact them on their site.  Their server is having a captcha problem for the past few days.
[15:43] <ramchandra> not a forum but what exactly?
[15:43] <ramchandra> I'd suggest posting on the forum, I guess they would read that
[15:44] <brandon_lnx> I can't register for the kubuntu forums, that's the problem.
[15:44] <brandon_lnx> So I can't post there, if I can't register there.  It's the forums linked on kubuntu's own page.
[15:44] <brandon_lnx> "Image verification could not be verified due to server issues. Please try again later."
[15:45] <brandon_lnx> I can't even attempt to just do a contact us there either, because it's the same error.  It's been like this, and I'm not sure the admins are aware since their server upgrade, that the captcha process is actually broken.
[15:45] <ramchandra> ah, that's sad. I guess you'll have to wait till one of the admins see this.
[15:47] <brandon_lnx> That's why I was hoping one of them were here.  While here though I could ask my question here for the time being.  Better anyway to talk live about it.
[15:48] <brandon_lnx> on a brand NEW account, going to Settings, Application Appearance, clicking the font tab on the left, then GTK, results in an immediate crash on the settings application..   Kubuntu 14.10, all updated btw.
[15:48] <ramchandra> hmm, I think quite possible gtk isn't installed
[15:48] <ramchandra> try installing a gtk app
[15:48] <brandon_lnx> Should be though, I have Gimp, Banshee, Xchat, all installed.
[15:49] <brandon_lnx> When the settings page crashes, I can relaunch it and then the GTK preferences actually open just fine.  But on all new accounts, it's always an imediate first load crash.  I installed fresh on my desktop, and so far, same thing.
[15:49] <brandon_lnx> Planning on doing a ubuntu-bugs on it, but not sure what the package name is called for it.
[15:53] <Anpu> hi, anyone tried to run vivid on virtualbox? all i get is colored screen like its on lsd and thats about it
[15:53] <Anpu> fresh downloaded image
[15:54] <brandon_lnx> Have not tried, but is this when the boot image shows, or does it show that (the little icon with the disk at the bottom at boot), or when X "should" be loading?
[15:58] <Anpu> brandon_lnx: it shows little icon at the bottom, then kubuntu 15.05 and 4 dots and then probably when it should show desktop, it shows mess
[15:59] <brandon_lnx> Ok, so I think your issue is happening when X is loading, and where lightdm is supposed to start.  Shot in the dark, but does your virtualbox have the graphics acceleration turned on?
[15:59] <brandon_lnx> If it's not, try turning it on.  If it's on, try turning it off.
[16:00] <Anpu> it has enabled 3d acceleration
[16:00] <Anpu> but not 2d video acceleration
[16:01] <brandon_lnx> Try disabling the 3d acceleration.
[16:01] <ramchandra> click the left arrow button to show syslog
[16:01] <ramchandra> (when it's running)
[16:02] <brandon_lnx> I'm guessing the LSD show is probably it's poor attempt to running a compositor in opengl
[16:02] <Anpu> also if it means, i m on 14.10 plasma 5 preview (host)
[16:03] <brandon_lnx> When OpenGL messes up, you get stuff like this:  http://owenmundy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/glitch8.png
[16:03] <brandon_lnx> I'm guessing that's about similar to what you are probably seeing.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> vivid suffers from plasma 5/KF5 bugs, the alpha 2 will be released on jan22 should fix some of it's problems
[16:04] <Anpu> this is how it looks, tried also to disable 3d acc http://www.dodaj.rs/f/v/Es/4FgAlOPt/vivid.png
[16:04] <brandon_lnx> that's no opengl glitch
[16:05] <brandon_lnx> looks like it's actually in a text mode almost.
[16:05] <brandon_lnx> I'm gonna try a test for you.  Did you get 14.04 Kubuntu as a 32-bit or a 64-bit?
[16:05] <Anpu> i can "recognize" a giant mouse pointer when moving mouse through this color forest
[16:05] <brandon_lnx> I'm gonna fire up my work computer and try it.  It's on Xubuntu though.
[16:05] <Anpu> 64
[16:05] <brandon_lnx> ok..
[16:05] <brandon_lnx> Give me about 10 minutes.  I'm definitely gonna try this.
[16:06] <Anpu> ok thanks a bunch
[16:06] <Anpu> my idea was to toy a little before deciding to roll it on my machine
[16:06] <brandon_lnx> See to me your screenshot looks like text mode, based on the appearance of "cells"..
[16:07] <brandon_lnx> So it's likely a virtualization bug, not so much as a bug on the hosts part, in my opinion.
[16:08] <Anpu> brandon_lnx: see this one: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2S/eK/1T1xSdgh/vivid1.png
[16:08] <Anpu> when i move my mouse i eventually see giant mouse pointer
[16:08] <Anpu> and colors change while moving mouse
[16:09] <Anpu> the red circled one can be moved left or roght or even disappear while moving mouse
[16:09] <Anpu> thats why  i assumed it is a mouse
[16:10] <brandon_lnx> Yep, Xorg thinks it's in a graphical mode but Virtualbox is in a text mode
[16:10] <Anpu> aha ok, got it
[16:11] <Anpu> just tried 14.04 i had installed and its ok, so vbox and vivid have an issue
[16:11] <brandon_lnx> looks actually like 132x25 mode 0109h.  :P
[16:11] <brandon_lnx> Ok, yea my work computer is still installing virtualbox and downloading the image.
[16:12] <brandon_lnx> I may have a 170mbps internet pipe, but the server only goes so fast.
[16:12] <Anpu> :)
[16:16] <brandon_lnx> wow virtualbox is still installing..  apparently 32gb ram and 8x Xeon cores aren't fast enough for it, haha
[16:23] <Anpu> its not the best, but for quick tests it works for me
[16:32] <brandon_lnx> Sorry for crude potato picture, my computer has software running that prevents screen captures:  http://i.imgur.com/EKJQSFA.jpg
[16:32] <brandon_lnx> That's my result.
[16:36] <Anpu> brandon_lnx: ok thanks. i ll test later on kde 4, could be that tech preview of plasma5 has an issue
[16:38] <brandon_lnx> Who knows.  I'm on Xubuntu 14.10.  I don't think honestly, that the host should matter, especially when in software render mode, but who knows.
[16:39] <sacarde> hi
[16:39] <sacarde> is this the right channel for support on kubuntu-plasma5 ?
[16:47] <soee> sacarde: more or less :)
[16:50] <sacarde> I run last iso unstable-kubuntu on qemu (plasma5) but when start live session, I dont view anything
[16:50] <sacarde> only cursor-mouse on black screen
[16:51] <soee_> seems like plasmashell does not starts
[16:51] <soee_> try to press ALT + F2 to open krunner
[16:51] <soee_> and type: plasmashell
[16:55] <sacarde> I try to collect all messages
[17:44] <Kryptic> I was referred here by a Ubuntu user. I want to reinstall Ubuntu (i installed so much crap, its faster to just download another .isp), but I figured I might as well try out a deritative. So I came to Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[17:44] <Kryptic> Which is more customizable?
[17:46] <soee_> no idea never used xubuntu :-)
[17:46] <soee_> xubuntu is known as more lighter and needs less resources
[17:46] <soee> kubuntu is very customazable
[17:47] <Kryptic> Soee_: Is it more customizable than Xubuntu? I love widgets. .
[17:47] <Kryptic> Like how customizable is it? Screenshot, perhaps?
[17:55] <soee> Kryptic: just search on youtube
 try to press ALT + F2 to open krunner
[19:41] <sacarde> in qemu I sendkey: alt-f2
[19:48] <sacarde> but nothing happend
[19:49] <alessandro> good evening everybody
[20:01] <lordievader> o/
[20:50] <jgcovre> ...
 try to press ALT + F2 to open krunner
[20:56] <sacarde> in qemu I sendkey: alt-f2
[20:56] <sacarde> but nothing happend
[20:56] <soee> sacarde: sorry im not familiar with qemu
[21:36] <Tori> can i ask technical questions here, or is there a better channel?
[21:38] <soee> ask
[21:39] <Tori> I have two problems, perhaps not related, but appeared at the same time: the shutdown, restart and logout butttons in the Leave tab do not work (clicking does nothing). The other problem is that Moun can't install apps and updates and gives this error: "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"
[21:41] <Tori> tried removing ksmserverrc, as it's a popular solution, but it didn't work.
[21:41] <soee> what kubuntu version ?
[21:41] <Tori> 14.10
[21:41] <Tori> oh, and it persists after multiple restarts
[21:43] <Tori> I can shutdown with the commandline, and if I go to Change USer -> New session and hit shutdwon from there
[21:43] <soee> do you have updtes ppa enabled and installe dthemall ?
[21:44] <Tori> yes, and since Moun has problems I had to use apt-get upgrade
[21:44] <soee> i remember that there was such problems
[21:45] <soee> but tbh cant say if and when they have been fixed as im running Vivid some time now
[21:46] <Tori> well, I searched for an anwser before I came here, and this is a reoccurring problem, but usually people report that a restart help, but not in my case
[21:47] <Tori> we could finally find the source of this issue, since I have it all the time, but I don't know how to troubleshoot it.
[21:51] <soee> Tori: try asking on Plasma also
[21:51] <soee> #plasma
[22:26] <bonk3rzz> updated using muon to 3.13.0-43 and now computer stalls and logon any ideas i can log on into 3.13.0-39 ( how i am talking to ya now) any ideas how to fix this???
[22:30] <bonk3rzz> PM me if anyone has any ideas