[00:24] <mapito> american sniper was dcent
[00:24] <mapito> tomorrow il watch before i go to sleep
[00:28] <daftykins> mapito: you watch films in more segments than my old man who relies on broadcast ;)
[05:16] <mapps> yelllow
[05:16] <mapps> anyone thats awake
[05:16] <mapps> booked our flights to Hamburg..feb 9th going to hamburg
[05:25] <shauno> morning
[05:27] <mapps> morning shauno
[09:32] <MooDoo> hello all
[10:44] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:46] <popey> yo
[10:46] <brobostigon> morning popey
[11:54] <ali12341> popey: what is the systemd conversion sprint?
[11:54] <ali12341> *when
[11:54] <popey> 16/17 jan i think
[11:55] <ali12341> are you going to convert user session packages?
[11:55] <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/107564545827215425270/posts/Fenok4AFeAb
[11:55] <popey> me personally, no.
[11:55] <ali12341> i mean ubuntu in general
[11:55] <popey> pitti is the best person to ask
[11:55] <popey> he leads the systemd migration
[11:55] <ali12341> is it still planned to use upstart as session init?
[11:55] <popey> pass
[11:55] <ali12341> the reason i ask is because we use upstart in xubuntu and it is really bad
[11:55] <popey> i have heard mention of replacing that but dont know when
[11:56] <ali12341> for example, it starts services multiple times for no reason
[11:56] <popey> yeah, poke pitti
[11:56] <ali12341> i would really like to get away from using it, but we rely on it for the indicator services
[11:56] <ali12341> (which also happen to be the same ones it starts multiple times for no reason)
[13:58] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wabStOmmzMI
[18:46] <knightwise> evenin everybody
[18:47] <penguin42> evenin knightwise
[18:48] <knightwise> hey penguin42 , how are you doing today
[18:49] <penguin42> not too bad
[18:49] <brobostigon> evening knightwise
[18:49] <knightwise> hey bro
[18:50] <knightwise> I got me an old 15 inch TFT display at the trift store , hooked it up to my Pi and am going to use it as my 'main machine' for a couple of days.
[18:50]  * knightwise is working on an article about running linux on slower machines 
[18:50] <brobostigon> :)
[18:51] <zmoylan-pi> i first connected my pi to an ancient high end monitor via it's scart connector as i don't have and hdmi monitors :-)
[18:51] <knightwise> Cool ! :) Scart ! now thats something I hadn't thought about
[18:51] <knightwise> I could have hooked it up to an old Tv here :)
[18:51] <knightwise> but .. using it on an older 15 inch TFT is not bad actually
[18:52] <daftykins> then you would've never read a single letter
[18:52] <knightwise> the smaller screen does give you a lot more 'focus' on what you are working on
[18:52] <zmoylan-pi> i had a frankencable which was vga one end and hdmi the other and had it work on laptops but the pi doesn't put out enough leccy to make it work so i had to get... creative
[18:52] <knightwise> Currently running : Terminator ,split into 3 windows ..
[18:52] <knightwise> Links up top (with Slashdot on it)
[18:52] <knightwise> wordgrinder bottom right
[18:53] <knightwise> and an ssh to my remote Vm running irssi on the left
[18:53] <knightwise> it works pretty good actually
[18:53] <zmoylan-pi> though my geekiest connection is still using a 286 with 640k running dos to connect to internet and browse the web... very very slowly :-)
[18:53] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: I bow down to you, master !
[18:55] <knightwise> ok , i'll be back in a tad, wife just made tea :)
[18:55] <knightwise> earl grey .. hot
[18:55] <knightwise> (not kidding)
[18:56] <daftykins> "Fox orders a Minority Report TV pilot" - ooh-err
[18:56] <penguin42> that's only taken them 10 years ish?
[18:56] <daftykins> :D
[18:57] <daftykins> wow, i'll feel old finding out what year that film came out
[18:58] <knightwise> there was this tv show recently
[18:58] <knightwise> with the guy who plays mccoy in star trek
[18:58] <daftykins> Deforest something or other
[18:58] <knightwise> he is a cop with a robot sidekick
[18:58] <daftykins> no way :D
[18:58] <knightwise> not deforest kelly
[18:58] <knightwise> the Reboot-Mccoy
[18:58] <daftykins> ooooh
[18:58] <knightwise> but that Tv show had a LOT of minority report AND bladerunner winks in them.
[18:58] <daftykins> so this is modern?
[18:58] <knightwise> Yep
[18:59] <daftykins> hrmm where'd you catch it?
[18:59] <knightwise> bittorrent
[18:59] <knightwise> ill look up the title , hold on , im on the pi remember
[18:59] <daftykins> :D
[19:01] <knightwise> allmost human
[19:01] <knightwise> I highly highly recommend that show
[19:02] <daftykins> ty sir!
[19:02] <daftykins> for anyone else - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2654580/
[19:04] <knightwise> meesa gonna watch some Tv (read : Netflix) because we don't have any cable anymore .. Watching 'top of the lake' New Zeeland wallpaper porn with a cop story underneath.
[19:13] <mapps> hi all
[19:31] <mapps> gah this plugin is unresponsive
[19:31] <mapps> in ffox ALL the time
[19:33] <daftykins> which?
[19:46] <mapps> on my new laptop
[19:46] <mapps> windows 8 i3..all the time flash is unresposnive
[19:46] <mapps> i know its not ubuntu
[19:46] <daftykins> no, which plugin :P
[19:46] <mapps> its freaking annoying
[19:46] <mapps> ohh
[19:46] <mapps> flash
[19:46] <daftykins> flash is fine on win8 here
[19:47] <mapps> hm
[19:47] <mapps> in ffox?
[19:47] <daftykins> yip
[19:47] <daftykins> v16
[19:51] <m0nkey_> delete flash, install chrome. :)
[19:59] <daftykins> chrome is not the second coming everyone acts like it is
[20:02] <mapps> film time
[20:02] <zmoylan-pi> picked up a few dvds from oxfam today myself
[20:02] <m0nkey_> daftykins: maybe not. at least it lets me watch netflix without screwing around with wine and silverlight
[20:02] <penguin42> daftykins: My experience is that both Firefox and Chrome go through bad patches, annoyingly sometimes they both go through bad patches at the same time
[20:03] <zmoylan-pi> that's when you lapse and use opera :-)
[20:03] <zmoylan-pi> ::spit::
[20:03] <daftykins> m0nkey_: mmm fair enough, but that's your platform choice ;)
[20:03] <mapps> i like opera!!!
[20:03] <daftykins> penguin42: indeed :D +1 to that
[20:03] <zmoylan-pi> i used to love opera but they've jumped the shark recently
[20:04] <mapps> whats wrong wih it now
[20:04] <zmoylan-pi> now it's a knockoff of chrome
[20:04] <mapps> *with
[20:04] <mapps> yea
[20:04] <daftykins> though i think it's fair to say that for a clean profile freshly opened, RAM usage is higher on a Chrome setup
[20:04] <zmoylan-pi> took out a lot of the neat features
[20:04] <daftykins> though i'm only able to comment on Windows there
[20:04] <zmoylan-pi> opera used to be the swiss army knife of browsers.  did a little of everything
[20:05] <mapps> i lways thought it was fast and less resource intensive than others
[20:05] <mapps> and i liked it:)
[20:05] <daftykins> i never ran it
[20:06] <zmoylan-pi> and i still depend on it on mobile as no other browser does half it's bag of tricks
[20:07] <zmoylan-pi> rss, server side compression, sync bookmarks, don't drive moylan nuts with whizz bang pretty useless features...
[20:07] <mapps> can sync bookmarks on chrome
[20:07] <mapps> login and synch between devices
[20:07] <zmoylan-pi> but that would involve using... you know... chrome :-)
[20:07] <mapps> ;]
[20:08] <zmoylan-pi> and completely misses on the don't drive moylan nuts list of requirements.  and google killed their rss thingy
[20:08] <mapps> ah ye reder
[20:08] <mapps> i use feedly
[20:09] <zmoylan-pi> on mobile i use the builtin in rss of opera, at home i use newsbeuter
[20:09] <zmoylan-pi> on the pi
[20:09] <ali1234> you can sync on firefox too but you need a firefox account which has no other purposes
[20:09] <daftykins> mapps: sync you say, is that like firefox sync? ;)
[20:09] <ali1234> firefox also has built in rss
[20:09] <daftykins> (i don't even use it XD) just pretty fair to say they have feature parity these days, for the most part
[20:10] <zmoylan-pi> but is incredibly slow on android i find, and won't run on dumbphone :-)
[20:10] <ali1234> yes, firefox on android is terrible
[20:10] <daftykins> i thought about setting up firefox sync on my own host once, but never got around to it
[20:10] <mapps> well
[20:10] <zmoylan-pi> and isn't too fast on desktop with 1gb of ram
[20:10] <mapps> tou login to your gmal ac basically
[20:10] <daftykins> lol desktop with 1GB RAM :P what *is* fast, thoughts coming to mind of being thrown on the scrapheap? :D
[20:11] <ali1234> well no modern browser is going to be fast in 1gb
[20:11] <zmoylan-pi> qupzilla zips along
[20:11] <zmoylan-pi> midori isn't too shabby either
[20:11] <zmoylan-pi> /lite/ browsers
[20:11] <ali1234> but they are barely browsers
[20:12] <zmoylan-pi> they work well enough, have adblock, play the occasional java game
[20:12] <daftykins> i'm quite chuffed with my latest silly image, for any Battlestar Galactica fans out there - https://www.dropbox.com/s/x808ztxk7b0jsfw/toaster.jpg?dl=0
[21:06] <knightwise> daftykins: i'm a fan, but i'm afraid I dont get the context of your picture
[21:10] <daftykins> yeah it was too vague i guess :( "fracking toasters"
[21:10] <knightwise> aah
[21:10]  * knightwise gets it
[21:12] <daftykins> :D