| brainwash | elfy: bug 1395720 has been marked as security issue | 00:02 |
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| ubottu | bug 1395720 in catfish (Ubuntu) "authentication in livesession accepts any value as password" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1395720 | 00:02 |
| brainwash | that's probably incorrect, or? | 00:03 |
| elfy | mmm | 00:03 |
| elfy | welll | 00:03 |
| elfy | who marked it ? Alberto again? | 00:04 |
| elfy | oh | 00:04 |
| elfy | lol :p | 00:04 |
| brainwash | ofc, he likes to mess with our bug reports | 00:04 |
| elfy | posted | 00:06 |
| elfy | afaik bluesabre is aware and dealing with it - I can't mark the importance | 00:06 |
| brainwash | it's a minor thing anyway | 00:07 |
| elfy | brainwash: does the bug importance change do anything other than annoy *us* | 00:07 |
| elfy | if not - I'd shrug and wait for it to get a fix :) | 00:08 |
| elfy | I actually only reported it so there was a paper trail for us | 00:08 |
| brainwash | bug importance is almost meaningless to us :) | 00:08 |
| elfy | it almost always is when alberto starts fiddling | 00:09 |
| elfy | karma whoring | 00:09 |
| elfy | bluesabre: while I think about it - got the new xfpm and ll tab | 00:10 |
| elfy | exactly what do we want people to test with this - seems like a really good choice for doing specific testing this cycle rather than the previous 'here's the package tracker' | 00:11 |
| elfy | I'm about over the weekend if you are at the same time - if not maybe mail me | 00:11 |
| elfy | thanks | 00:11 |
| elfy | e.g. I'd like to be able to say something like | 00:12 |
| elfy | please test these scenario's | 00:12 |
| elfy | ochosi: ^^ | 00:12 |
| elfy | mmm think that makes sense lol | 00:14 |
| elfy | brainwash: so - who does have bug powers to set importance to a sensible level? | 01:33 |
| brainwash | elfy: alberto does :> | 01:33 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 01:34 |
| elfy | is there not one of us who can? | 01:34 |
| elfy | thought there was | 01:35 |
| elfy | if not perhaps we should get xpl to talk to someone about it | 01:35 |
| brainwash | we shouldn't bother with the importance, but at least remove the security issue status | 01:36 |
| elfy | yea | 01:36 |
| elfy | mmmm | 01:36 |
| elfy | really? | 01:37 |
| elfy | other's look then surely? | 01:37 |
| elfy | I can see changing private to public as being useful :) | 01:37 |
| elfy | oh good lord a security bug - oh nvm ignore that :) | 01:38 |
| brainwash | btw did you see the updates to bug 1363540 ? | 01:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1363540 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-screensaver resume does not restore previous X11 screensaver timeout" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363540 | 01:38 |
| brainwash | I don't know if you are actually affected by this, or just happen to noticed this while testing parole | 01:39 |
| brainwash | to notice | 01:39 |
| elfy | I did of course, but didn't take much notice of the intervening months | 01:39 |
| elfy | random changes to bug titles - mean that I don't see them the same anymore ... | 01:40 |
| elfy | didn't catch that as the parole bug | 01:40 |
| brainwash | ah, well, it's not a parole specific bug anymore :) | 01:41 |
| elfy | then not my bag L:) | 01:41 |
| elfy | :) | 01:41 |
| elfy | and I've never got a satisfactory explanation as to what to do with patches | 01:42 |
| elfy | and I guess that lots of people see patches and think - oh yea a patch ... | 01:42 |
| brainwash | I've attached the patched script file, you just download it, make it executable and test it | 01:43 |
| elfy | should be an 'Idiot's guide to pacthes and linux' | 01:43 |
| brainwash | it's a plain shell script | 01:43 |
| elfy | brainwash: glad you understand that - this is *buntu :D | 01:43 |
| elfy | linux for people :) | 01:44 |
| brainwash | applying patches is not that complicated. there are some ubuntu wiki articles you could read | 01:44 |
| elfy | I don't write docs | 01:45 |
| elfy | people who do - don't generally think about the end user | 01:46 |
| elfy | and I am NOT talking about *our* docs people there | 01:46 |
| elfy | there really should be a usable wiki for that stuff given that people often leave patches | 01:47 |
| elfy | so | 02:37 |
| knome | yes | 02:37 |
| knome | what can i do for you | 02:37 |
| elfy | when we look at the slideshow | 02:38 |
| knome | yeppers | 02:38 |
| elfy | how about pointing people to -offtopic as well at least | 02:38 |
| elfy | maybe cut out some of the | 02:38 |
| elfy | 'hey I installed' peeps in support | 02:39 |
| knome | they're mainly fine | 02:39 |
| elfy | so we see a greater % of people in support actaully needing help | 02:39 |
| knome | but i see your point.. | 02:39 |
| elfy | if we at least advertised both on the slides ... | 02:39 |
| knome | since #x isn't huge traffic, it's nice to see somebody say "hey, nice work" once in a while | 02:40 |
| knome | we could do that definitely | 02:40 |
| elfy | what does iot ake | 02:40 |
| knome | nothing | 02:40 |
| knome | :P | 02:40 |
| knome | well, we can do it | 02:40 |
| elfy | yea yea - understand that | 02:40 |
| elfy | but | 02:40 |
| knome | it's just a matter of changing the wording | 02:40 |
| knome | i have work items for the slideshow already, i'll keep that in mind | 02:41 |
| elfy | imagine bert - really pissed off in support - waitinig for someone to help - seeing a bunch of people come and go saying 'woohoo - works for me' | 02:41 |
| knome | ...when i work with them :) | 02:41 |
| elfy | and he still gets no help | 02:41 |
| knome | yeah... but that is unfair sometimes | 02:41 |
| elfy | just saying - perceptions | 02:41 |
| knome | bert might be in the channel for 5 hours, and dozens of other people have their problems solved | 02:42 |
| knome | but bert not, because he might have an odd problem or one that doesn't have a solution | 02:42 |
| elfy | of course it is, but many are new and don't understand the bus principle involved in IRC | 02:42 |
| knome | yep | 02:42 |
| elfy | for the sake of one line - however worded | 02:43 |
| knome | so maybe the better solution would be to point to an URL that explains, XYZ | 02:43 |
| elfy | go her for help - go here to gloat | 02:43 |
| knome | yep | 02:43 |
| knome | something like that | 02:43 |
| knome | could even make a playful slide out of that | 02:43 |
| knome | not too playful if something isn't working but.. | 02:44 |
| elfy | yea yea - but slideshow - people read that stuff then then read the paper till the next shot | 02:44 |
| knome | yup | 02:44 |
| elfy | 2 cycles to go - try stuff - we now know *where* people come *from* | 02:44 |
| knome | yep | 02:46 |
| knome | i should gather those stats as well i guess | 02:46 |
| elfy | I'd not yet | 02:46 |
| elfy | change slide | 02:47 |
| elfy | then get stats | 02:47 |
| knome | i'll make them month-based anyway | 02:48 |
| knome | so we can even track the effect of the change | 02:48 |
| elfy | yea | 02:48 |
| elfy | but keep quiet then give us 18 months of it :)] | 02:49 |
| knome | haha, i'll make a note not to tell you | 02:50 |
| elfy | too late - expecting it now ... | 02:50 |
| knome | i didn't know you were carrying a baby | 02:54 |
| knome | but congrats ;> | 02:54 |
| elfy | too late - expecting it now ... | 03:00 |
| elfy | just so long as it's not a !conga-rat | 03:00 |
| ali12341 | ochosi: any idea how i fix squashed up menus? | 13:09 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: if it was a problem, wouldn't there be more complaints... or no? | 13:38 |
| bluesabre | elfy: it only requires light testing... if the tab shows up, and functions as expected, all is well | 13:38 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: thanks, I'll tweak it to get the builds going again | 13:38 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: yeah, I'm going to fix the auth issue by switching to polkit inside of catfish and mugshot | 13:39 |
| bluesabre | ali12341: I think that is/was an issue with monitor struts and xfwm, or is it something different? | 13:40 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, ali12341: let me know when you have something release worthy for greybird/orion :) | 13:41 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: I guess so.. some people do complain that they still see the black screen issue | 14:43 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: but I'm just questioning the logic | 14:43 |
| bluesabre | we can flip the switch and see what happens | 14:47 |
| bluesabre | :D | 14:47 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: it's just a bit confusing. TRUE or FALSE.. logind or not logind.. | 15:01 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: logind-handle-lid-switch is set to FALSE by default, xubu default settings sets it to FALSE although it's the default value anyway | 15:17 |
| brainwash | I guess I'll have to bother you with this until the mystery is solved :) | 15:18 |
| ali12341 | ochosi: i don't get this. half the reason why orion looks different in gtk 3.14 is because it contains css tat does nothing in gtk 3.12 | 15:54 |
| ali12341 | for example the notebook styles do nothing in 3.12 | 15:54 |
| ali12341 | "fixing" it in 3.14 involves... deleting a bunch of rules and nothing else | 15:54 |
| ali12341 | cool... notebook tabs fixed | 16:10 |
| ali12341 | i'm just making the gtk3 theme look like the gtk2 theme at this point, because i don't understand what it is actually supposed to look like | 16:11 |
| ali12341 | and because in 14.04 the gtk3 theme does look the same as the gtk2 theme | 16:11 |
| ali12341 | https://github.com/ali1234/Orion/tree/gtk3.14try2 | 16:18 |
| ali12341 | that just leaves the squashed up menus | 16:31 |
| === ali12341 is now known as ali1234 | ||
| Unit193 | Oh, and xfdashboard 0.3.5-0ubuntu1 has been uploaded. | 22:33 |
| ochosi | evening all | 22:52 |
| ochosi | ali1234: not sure what the problem with the menus might be tbh | 22:53 |
| knome | hullo ochosi | 22:53 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 22:53 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: seems like a bunch of elements have slightly less padding, not just menus | 22:56 |
| ochosi | right | 22:57 |
| ochosi | it's possible that this is an older thing even, orion hasn't received too many gtk3 updates lately | 22:57 |
| ochosi | so i'm not quite sure what state it is in | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | yeah that would explain the weird non-working css stuff too probably | 22:57 |
| ochosi | but i remember some similar issues with greybird a longer while back | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | do you think it's reasonable to just make the gtk3 look like the gtk2? | 22:58 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's the ideal imo | 22:58 |
| ali1234 | cos the gtk2 should not change, right? | 22:58 |
| ochosi | gtk2 isn't very flexible is all | 22:58 |
| ochosi | with gtk3 you have a lot more options, but if you really use them, gtk2 will look out of place | 22:58 |
| ochosi | so i tried to find a compromise with greybird | 22:58 |
| ali1234 | also, those transitions... | 23:00 |
| ali1234 | is that new in 3.14? | 23:00 |
| ali1234 | i should be able to put transition: none; somewhere right? | 23:00 |
| ali1234 | and kill them all | 23:01 |
| ochosi | yeah, i guess | 23:06 |
| ochosi | in one of the global styles | 23:06 |
| ochosi | frankly, i've never really touched orion much | 23:06 |
| ochosi | it was always satya's theme | 23:06 |
| ochosi | i just helped with the xfce parts | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | what's the connection between shimmer and numix, btw? | 23:08 |
| ali1234 | i mean, numix project is a separate thing, right? with commercial stuff... | 23:09 |
| ochosi | yeah, i don't know, we cooperate on the themes and as far as our cooperation goes, that's in shimmer | 23:12 |
| ochosi | i'm not involved with the numix project in general | 23:12 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i just tagged greybird 1.5 after fixing the last visual glitches i found in 3.14. if we find more, i can always do point releases, but this one is ready for upload | 23:13 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases/tag/v1.5 | 23:14 |
| ochosi | elfy: you still awake? | 23:46 |
| ochosi | or anyone else having a vivid install at their disposal | 23:47 |
| ochosi | just need a very quick bug confirmation over here | 23:47 |
| Unit193 | "Disposal"? No, and if it's filing a bug report, then I also don't. | 23:48 |
| ochosi | nah, this is one i'd fix myself | 23:51 |
| ochosi | just wanna confirm it first since it's really easy to check | 23:51 |
| ochosi | pull either of the "blank after" scales in xfpm-settings > display tab around and then look at the value saved in xfconf (e.g. with xfce4-settings-editor) | 23:52 |
| ali1234 | i've got a vm... | 23:52 |
| ochosi | if the value is the same, then there's a bug. (it should be multiplied with 60) | 23:52 |
| ochosi | ali1234: that'd work too | 23:53 |
| ochosi | just wanna make sure i don't have some leftover mumbojumbo pieces of xfpm lying around on my drive that are interfering before i dig into the code | 23:54 |
| ali1234 | this is the daily from earlier today | 23:54 |
| ochosi | yeah, that should be fine | 23:55 |
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| ali1234 | what am i looking at in the xfconf? | 23:57 |
| ali1234 | blank-on-ac? | 23:57 |
| ali1234 | if so, it is notmultiplied by 60 here | 23:57 |
| ochosi | yup | 23:57 |
| ochosi | ok | 23:57 |
| ochosi | then i have something to fix i guess | 23:57 |
| ochosi | first i gotta find who introduced that regression and when | 23:58 |
| ochosi | thanks for checking ali1234 | 23:58 |
| ali1234 | also dpms-on-ac-sleep which is "put to sleep after" i guess | 23:58 |
| ochosi | rly? | 23:58 |
| ochosi | meh | 23:58 |
| ali1234 | and "switch off after" -> dpms-on-ac-off | 23:58 |
| ochosi | thing is, dpms seemed fine when checked with xset q | 23:59 |
| ali1234 | basically none of those sliders is multiplied by 60 | 23:59 |
| ochosi | but screensaver was wrong | 23:59 |
| ali1234 | the one on system tab isn't either | 23:59 |
| ochosi | so maybe the dpms values are multiplied elsewhere but saved as is | 23:59 |
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