[00:02] elfy: bug 1395720 has been marked as security issue [00:02] bug 1395720 in catfish (Ubuntu) "authentication in livesession accepts any value as password" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1395720 [00:03] that's probably incorrect, or? [00:03] mmm [00:03] welll [00:04] who marked it ? Alberto again? [00:04] oh [00:04] lol :p [00:04] ofc, he likes to mess with our bug reports [00:06] posted [00:06] afaik bluesabre is aware and dealing with it - I can't mark the importance [00:07] it's a minor thing anyway [00:07] brainwash: does the bug importance change do anything other than annoy *us* [00:08] if not - I'd shrug and wait for it to get a fix :) [00:08] I actually only reported it so there was a paper trail for us [00:08] bug importance is almost meaningless to us :) [00:09] it almost always is when alberto starts fiddling [00:09] karma whoring [00:10] bluesabre: while I think about it - got the new xfpm and ll tab [00:11] exactly what do we want people to test with this - seems like a really good choice for doing specific testing this cycle rather than the previous 'here's the package tracker' [00:11] I'm about over the weekend if you are at the same time - if not maybe mail me [00:11] thanks [00:12] e.g. I'd like to be able to say something like [00:12] please test these scenario's [00:12] ochosi: ^^ [00:14] mmm think that makes sense lol [01:33] brainwash: so - who does have bug powers to set importance to a sensible level? [01:33] elfy: alberto does :> [01:34] ha ha ha [01:34] is there not one of us who can? [01:35] thought there was [01:35] if not perhaps we should get xpl to talk to someone about it [01:36] we shouldn't bother with the importance, but at least remove the security issue status [01:36] yea [01:36] mmmm [01:37] really? [01:37] other's look then surely? [01:37] I can see changing private to public as being useful :) [01:38] oh good lord a security bug - oh nvm ignore that :) [01:38] btw did you see the updates to bug 1363540 ? [01:38] bug 1363540 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-screensaver resume does not restore previous X11 screensaver timeout" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363540 [01:39] I don't know if you are actually affected by this, or just happen to noticed this while testing parole [01:39] to notice [01:39] I did of course, but didn't take much notice of the intervening months [01:40] random changes to bug titles - mean that I don't see them the same anymore ... [01:40] didn't catch that as the parole bug [01:41] ah, well, it's not a parole specific bug anymore :) [01:41] then not my bag L:) [01:41] :) [01:42] and I've never got a satisfactory explanation as to what to do with patches [01:42] and I guess that lots of people see patches and think - oh yea a patch ... [01:43] I've attached the patched script file, you just download it, make it executable and test it [01:43] should be an 'Idiot's guide to pacthes and linux' [01:43] it's a plain shell script [01:43] brainwash: glad you understand that - this is *buntu :D [01:44] linux for people :) [01:44] applying patches is not that complicated. there are some ubuntu wiki articles you could read [01:45] I don't write docs [01:46] people who do - don't generally think about the end user [01:46] and I am NOT talking about *our* docs people there [01:47] there really should be a usable wiki for that stuff given that people often leave patches [02:37] so [02:37] yes [02:37] what can i do for you [02:38] when we look at the slideshow [02:38] yeppers [02:38] how about pointing people to -offtopic as well at least [02:38] maybe cut out some of the [02:39] 'hey I installed' peeps in support [02:39] they're mainly fine [02:39] so we see a greater % of people in support actaully needing help [02:39] but i see your point.. [02:39] if we at least advertised both on the slides ... [02:40] since #x isn't huge traffic, it's nice to see somebody say "hey, nice work" once in a while [02:40] we could do that definitely [02:40] what does iot ake [02:40] nothing [02:40] :P [02:40] well, we can do it [02:40] yea yea - understand that [02:40] but [02:40] it's just a matter of changing the wording [02:41] i have work items for the slideshow already, i'll keep that in mind [02:41] imagine bert - really pissed off in support - waitinig for someone to help - seeing a bunch of people come and go saying 'woohoo - works for me' [02:41] ...when i work with them :) [02:41] and he still gets no help [02:41] yeah... but that is unfair sometimes [02:41] just saying - perceptions [02:42] bert might be in the channel for 5 hours, and dozens of other people have their problems solved [02:42] but bert not, because he might have an odd problem or one that doesn't have a solution [02:42] of course it is, but many are new and don't understand the bus principle involved in IRC [02:42] yep [02:43] for the sake of one line - however worded [02:43] so maybe the better solution would be to point to an URL that explains, XYZ [02:43] go her for help - go here to gloat [02:43] yep [02:43] something like that [02:43] could even make a playful slide out of that [02:44] not too playful if something isn't working but.. [02:44] yea yea - but slideshow - people read that stuff then then read the paper till the next shot [02:44] yup [02:44] 2 cycles to go - try stuff - we now know *where* people come *from* [02:46] yep [02:46] i should gather those stats as well i guess [02:46] I'd not yet [02:47] change slide [02:47] then get stats [02:48] i'll make them month-based anyway [02:48] so we can even track the effect of the change [02:48] yea [02:49] but keep quiet then give us 18 months of it :)] [02:50] haha, i'll make a note not to tell you [02:50] too late - expecting it now ... [02:54] i didn't know you were carrying a baby [02:54] but congrats ;> [03:00] too late - expecting it now ... [03:00] just so long as it's not a !conga-rat [13:09] ochosi: any idea how i fix squashed up menus? [13:38] brainwash: if it was a problem, wouldn't there be more complaints... or no? [13:38] elfy: it only requires light testing... if the tab shows up, and functions as expected, all is well [13:38] Unit193: thanks, I'll tweak it to get the builds going again [13:39] brainwash: yeah, I'm going to fix the auth issue by switching to polkit inside of catfish and mugshot [13:40] ali12341: I think that is/was an issue with monitor struts and xfwm, or is it something different? [13:41] ochosi, ali12341: let me know when you have something release worthy for greybird/orion :) [14:43] bluesabre: I guess so.. some people do complain that they still see the black screen issue [14:43] bluesabre: but I'm just questioning the logic [14:47] we can flip the switch and see what happens [14:47] :D [15:01] bluesabre: it's just a bit confusing. TRUE or FALSE.. logind or not logind.. [15:17] bluesabre: logind-handle-lid-switch is set to FALSE by default, xubu default settings sets it to FALSE although it's the default value anyway [15:18] I guess I'll have to bother you with this until the mystery is solved :) [15:54] ochosi: i don't get this. half the reason why orion looks different in gtk 3.14 is because it contains css tat does nothing in gtk 3.12 [15:54] for example the notebook styles do nothing in 3.12 [15:54] "fixing" it in 3.14 involves... deleting a bunch of rules and nothing else [16:10] cool... notebook tabs fixed [16:11] i'm just making the gtk3 theme look like the gtk2 theme at this point, because i don't understand what it is actually supposed to look like [16:11] and because in 14.04 the gtk3 theme does look the same as the gtk2 theme [16:18] https://github.com/ali1234/Orion/tree/gtk3.14try2 [16:31] that just leaves the squashed up menus === ali12341 is now known as ali1234 [22:33] Oh, and xfdashboard 0.3.5-0ubuntu1 has been uploaded. [22:52] evening all [22:53] ali1234: not sure what the problem with the menus might be tbh [22:53] hullo ochosi [22:53] Howdy. [22:56] ochosi: seems like a bunch of elements have slightly less padding, not just menus [22:57] right [22:57] it's possible that this is an older thing even, orion hasn't received too many gtk3 updates lately [22:57] so i'm not quite sure what state it is in [22:57] yeah that would explain the weird non-working css stuff too probably [22:57] but i remember some similar issues with greybird a longer while back [22:58] do you think it's reasonable to just make the gtk3 look like the gtk2? [22:58] yeah, that's the ideal imo [22:58] cos the gtk2 should not change, right? [22:58] gtk2 isn't very flexible is all [22:58] with gtk3 you have a lot more options, but if you really use them, gtk2 will look out of place [22:58] so i tried to find a compromise with greybird [23:00] also, those transitions... [23:00] is that new in 3.14? [23:00] i should be able to put transition: none; somewhere right? [23:01] and kill them all [23:06] yeah, i guess [23:06] in one of the global styles [23:06] frankly, i've never really touched orion much [23:06] it was always satya's theme [23:07] i just helped with the xfce parts [23:08] what's the connection between shimmer and numix, btw? [23:09] i mean, numix project is a separate thing, right? with commercial stuff... [23:12] yeah, i don't know, we cooperate on the themes and as far as our cooperation goes, that's in shimmer [23:12] i'm not involved with the numix project in general [23:13] bluesabre: i just tagged greybird 1.5 after fixing the last visual glitches i found in 3.14. if we find more, i can always do point releases, but this one is ready for upload [23:14] bluesabre: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases/tag/v1.5 [23:46] elfy: you still awake? [23:47] or anyone else having a vivid install at their disposal [23:47] just need a very quick bug confirmation over here [23:48] "Disposal"? No, and if it's filing a bug report, then I also don't. [23:51] nah, this is one i'd fix myself [23:51] just wanna confirm it first since it's really easy to check [23:52] pull either of the "blank after" scales in xfpm-settings > display tab around and then look at the value saved in xfconf (e.g. with xfce4-settings-editor) [23:52] i've got a vm... [23:52] if the value is the same, then there's a bug. (it should be multiplied with 60) [23:53] ali1234: that'd work too [23:54] just wanna make sure i don't have some leftover mumbojumbo pieces of xfpm lying around on my drive that are interfering before i dig into the code [23:54] this is the daily from earlier today [23:55] yeah, that should be fine === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [23:57] what am i looking at in the xfconf? [23:57] blank-on-ac? [23:57] if so, it is notmultiplied by 60 here [23:57] yup [23:57] ok [23:57] then i have something to fix i guess [23:58] first i gotta find who introduced that regression and when [23:58] thanks for checking ali1234 [23:58] also dpms-on-ac-sleep which is "put to sleep after" i guess [23:58] rly? [23:58] meh [23:58] and "switch off after" -> dpms-on-ac-off [23:59] thing is, dpms seemed fine when checked with xset q [23:59] basically none of those sliders is multiplied by 60 [23:59] but screensaver was wrong [23:59] the one on system tab isn't either [23:59] so maybe the dpms values are multiplied elsewhere but saved as is