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FaalentijnI'm getting a soft lockup cpu lock up error01:22
FaalentijnCan anybody help me with that?01:23
FaalentijnHello?01:27
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rotekhello @ all10:13
lordievaderGood morning10:51
BluesKajHowdy folks11:29
ap0chow can I revert a kernel update through a live install?12:22
ap0cI tried updating 14.04.1 LTS's kernel from 3.13.x-generic to 3.1612:22
tucnakHey there! I've got a strange issue with battery saving preferences here on Tech preview with latest plasma12:26
soeetucnak: this is more related to #plasma12:27
tucnakBasically, it keeps on blocking screen after a while, but what interesting is I have settings in Energy Saving that should preserve it from such behaviour12:27
soeetry to ask there and maybe report some bugs12:27
tucnaksoee: alright, thanks12:27
hegemon8hello12:32
hegemon8anyone is testing 15.04 ? I wonder how it performes so far, cause i'm formatting the  drive soon12:33
soeehegemon8: im running it 4-5 weeks now and all works fine for me. There might be sometimes problems with packages updates so you must be aware of it before upgrade12:34
hegemon8i used early versions before soee but plasma 5 is a bigger jump12:35
hegemon8i remember switching from kde 3 to kde4 so :) thats why i ask this time :)12:36
LPI want to speak with Lordie Vader12:45
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mparilloI tried Startup Disk Creator on Kubuntu: Thumbdrive not bootable. I tried unetbootin on Win7 on the same Thumbdrive, and it was bootable. The MD5 checks OK. Any ideas?15:22
BluesKaj_mparillo, odd, Startup Disk Creator worked just fine here a few days ago...did you reformat the usb drive or just delete the pervious data on it before running creator?15:37
BluesKaj_because deleting the previous data is sufficient unless you have it partitioned15:37
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mparilloBluesKaj_: Thank you. I used the Delete Data option on startup disk creator.15:57
mparilloIt was originally created with FAT on Win7. Maybe that is the underlying issue?15:57
BluesKaj_mparillo, well FAT is best for usb sticks afaik16:04
BluesKaj_it is odd tho, can't think of why it wouldn't boot16:05
BluesKaj_anyway, errands to do...bbl16:05
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interimaHi  i need some help. I have kUbuntu 14.04 and Nvidia 750Ti card. When i installed kubuntu (several mounth before) i add xorg-edgers/ppa and installed nvidia drivers. But now kubuntu switch to xorg mesa drivers. I don't know how it happened. I try to reinstall nvidia drivers (no effect).18:12
BluesKaj_interima, remove the xorg-edgers ppa. Their support is not very good, run lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' to see which driver is actually in use , then we can go from there.18:20
interimaBluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/9k8Cd9fa18:22
interimaBluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/n1NHmrhF18:24
BluesKaj_interima, dpkg -l | grep nvidia18:26
interima BluesKaj_: nvidia x settings show nothin (only not useful infromation) but before it shows all information18:26
interimaBluesKaj_18:26
interimaBluesKaj_: nothing18:26
interimaBluesKaj_: in output18:26
BluesKaj_interima, the nvidia-331 driver is highest nvidia driver supported by 14.04,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-33118:28
interimaBluesKaj_: wow. i will check now18:30
interimaBluesKaj_: no effect18:36
BluesKaj_explain no effect18:36
interimaBluesKaj_: http://pastebin.com/r307FRTY18:37
interimaBluesKaj_: seems like kernel still use gallium mesa drivers18:37
interimaBluesKaj_: you said me delete edgers ppa (i don't delete yet) but how i can install nvidia drivers without this ppa18:38
estacadohi18:39
estacadoi need some help anyone installed flashtool under kde?18:40
BluesKaj_interima,the 331 driver is in the regular repository18:40
estacadoi have done the procedure once under ubuntu18:40
estacadois the location of udev rules the same?18:41
interimaBluesKaj_: so i will delete edgers ppa and install 331 from default repo18:41
BluesKaj_yes18:41
BluesKaj_phone...bbl18:41
Ryon_is een uitvoerbaar programma. Uit veiligheidsoverwegingen zal het niet worden gestart. deze melding krijg ik wanneer ik een .exe bestand wil openen18:42
interimaCan someone help me. i install nvidia-331 drivers but kernel still use xorg mesa drivers.18:59
BluesKaj_interima , where does it say vesa drivers are in use ?19:11
BluesKaj_or mesa rather19:11
interimaBluesKaj_: glmark says that19:16
BluesKaj_interima, glmark is name of the app not the nvidia driver, my laptop syas the same as your glmark, but my gpu driver is definitely the i915 intel19:22
interimaBluesKaj_: nvidia setting shows nothing19:23
interimaBluesKaj_: lsmod  don't show nvidia driver19:24
interimaBluesKaj_: lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA -A 12 don't show kernel driver in use19:25
BluesKaj_interima, have you rebooted since installing the 331 driver?19:26
interimaBluesKaj_: yes19:27
BluesKaj_interima, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'19:34
BluesKaj_interima, and another command that will list media kernel modules is, dkms status19:39
interimaBluesKaj_:lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' nothing19:45
interimaBluesKaj_: but look at this  http://pastebin.com/TYqpf9HA19:45
BluesKaj_int then choose "0",  0 is the default if chosen19:49
teiseiHello! Anyone else experiencing a strange error message whenever you rename a file on your Desktop (Folder View)?19:52
BluesKaj_interima, then choose "0",  0 is the default if chosen19:53
interimaBluesKaj_: if i choose 0 xserver crush19:54
BluesKaj_interima, do you need 14.04 LTS, I upgraded to 14.10 as soon as it was available since 14.04 was so unstable and buggy19:56
BluesKaj_probly get better support for your gtx 750ti gpu on 14.1019:57
interimaBluesKaj_: i don't think that it can solve problem, cause everything work ok on 14.04. this happend several days ago19:58
BluesKaj_then you'll have to wait til xedgers ppa is brought up to date :/19:59
BluesKaj_unless you install the proprietary driver from the nvidia website, but it will break with the next kernel upgrade, whenever that is.20:01
teiseiNvidia already has drivers that support kernel 3.19 out-of-the-box?20:01
BluesKaj_interima, http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverresults.aspx/73666/en-us20:03
BluesKaj_teisei, depends which kernel 14.04 uses nowadays20:04
BluesKaj_14.10 here is 3.16 kernel, 15.04 uses the 3.1820:05
teiseiWell Nvidia 346.22 works with kernel 3.1820:06
teiseiOn the other hand, kernel 3.18 appears to be quite unstable for me compared to 3.1620:07
BluesKaj_teisei, yes , but the gtx 750 ti gpu is particularly not well supported on 14.0420:07
teiseiOne of the high end ones? I'm using GTX 460M20:08
teiseiWhich is quite outdated already, I know20:08
teiseiWhat kind of problems does the GTX 750 Ti have?20:08
BluesKaj_we had the same issue with that gpu yesterday with 14.04 ...it's not a stable OS in many ways in my experience20:09
BluesKaj_especially with hi-end graphics20:09
BluesKaj_even my lowly nvidia 8400gs had troubles on 14.0420:10
teiseiWhat drivers did you use?20:10
BluesKaj_the 319 on 14.04 , but I promptly installed 14.10 when the dev release was available and didn't have a problem after that20:11
teiseiDid you switch from 319 to something newer?20:13
BluesKaj_once the 331 driver was available, yes20:13
BluesKaj_the 319 was very stable for me20:14
BluesKaj_as is the 331 atm20:14
teiseiDo you happen to be using xorg-edgers?20:16
DarwinSurvivorI've installed Kubuntu 14.10 (plasma 4) on a high-dpi screen (280 dpi), but it keeps getting render at 94 dpi.20:20
DarwinSurvivorMy Google searching has resulting in many answers for Unity on 14.10 and Kde on non-ubuntu distros (where they edit files that don't exist in 14.10)20:21
teiseiThere is a way to ignore/override the DPI autodetection20:22
DarwinSurvivorI've done the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (had to create the file first): http://pastebin.com/qVimRZY420:22
DarwinSurvivorxrandr shows the corrected dimensions in the eDPI setting, but no changes are visible20:23
DarwinSurvivorhttp://pastebin.com/6am64S7320:23
DarwinSurvivorI tried using Screen and Screen0 instead of Monitor, but that just causes lightdm to crash20:24
DarwinSurvivorAlso, xdpyinfo reports "96x96 dots per inch", so somehow xdpyinfo and xrandr are getting their numbers from different places20:25
DarwinSurvivorI keep reading that plasma 5 has much better high-dpi support, how stable is it at this point?20:26
DarwinSurvivornote: this is for a family member's primary work machine, so stability is important20:26
teiseiDarwinSurvivor, Plasma 5 appears to be quite stable for me20:28
teiseiThere are some oddities here and there but no crashes whatsoever20:28
DarwinSurvivorcan plasma 5 and plasma 4 be run on the same machine (for testing)?20:29
teiseiPlasma 5 seems to be much faster and smoother than any other desktop I've tried recently20:29
Walex2_DarwinSurvivor: it is complicated...20:29
teiseiDarwinSurvivor, not in the same install of Kubuntu as far as I know20:30
Walex2_DarwinSurvivor: DPI calculation and setting have been screwed up by Keith Packard very comprehensively20:30
DarwinSurvivorcan I just replace plasma 4 with plasma 5 without a full reinstall (and back again if needed)?20:30
teiseiDarwinSurvivor, I think it's possible. They are just packages after all20:30
BluesKaj_teisei, I don't use xedgers ppas. poor longterm support]20:30
Walex2_DarwinSurvivor: I have a very draft blog post on DPI here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/drafts2.html#140228b20:31
teiseiBluesKaj_, yeah the support is a problem, but I'm a sucker for new features and speed improvements (also willing to sacrifice stability for performance boost)20:31
BluesKaj_on 15.04 here with plsama 5/KF5 and patiently waiting for the 5.2 on jan2220:32
teiseiBluesKaj_, are you running kernel 3.18?20:33
BluesKaj_teisei, yes20:34
teiseiNo problems with uptime? My system crashes every few hours in 3.1820:35
BluesKaj_but this laptop uses intel graphics ..my old pc/media-server with kubuntu 14.10 has the nvidia 8400gs card in it20:35
BluesKaj_no problems here with crashes , just the odd freeze which is easily fixed with alt-tab20:37
teiseiWell the Nvidia drivers from xedgers may play a role in my case20:37
BluesKaj_yes, that's possible20:37
BluesKaj_tried plasma 5 on the media server pc , but it was much too buggy so I reverted it back to plasma 420:39
teiseiIn my case the crashes were more like kernel panics20:39
teiseiAlt-tab or any other keyboard wizardry didn't work in my case20:39
teiseiBluesKaj_, this is a little offtopic but do you happen to have a menu key on your keyboard?20:41
BluesKaj_the windows key ?20:43
DarwinSurvivorThanks guys, I'll read the DPI post and if that doesn't work give plasma 5 a shot20:43
teiseiMenu key, the one that behaves like right mouse click20:43
teiseiWherever your focus is20:43
teiseiSo it basically opens a menu20:44
BluesKaj_no idea which key that is20:44
teiseihttp://www.laptopkey.com/uploads/1034_1388193920_ev-kb.jpg see the key between Alt Gr and Ctrl20:45
teiseiIn Xubuntu it was called "Menu" when used in keyboard shortcuts20:46
teiseiBut I was just wondering if it's hard coded in Kubuntu to open the context menu (or whatever they call it)20:46
teiseiI find this default behaviour useless and I used to bind it to open a terminal20:47
BluesKaj_it seems to open different menus depending on which app is open on top20:47
teiseiYes indeed it follows your focus (keyboard focus that is)20:47
teiseiI haven't been able to locate any conf file where I could change the behaviour of this key20:48
teiseiQuite frustrating to be honest. I was hoping some genius would've come up with a solution20:49
teiseiNevertheless the key is called "Menu" but it cannot be used in key bindings because it's not recognized20:50
teiseiMaybe I could cheat the system somehow and make it appear as some other key which my keyboard doesn't physically include20:50
BluesKaj_frankly, I'm more of a mouse usersince i was introduced to computers with application programs run on various analytical lab instruments which followed the msdos basics at the time, then windows 3.1 and '95//20:51
BluesKaj_waaay before <i discovered linux :)20:51
teiseiI see, I see. Maybe I'm too much of a keyboard wizard20:52
teiseiA gamer does not simply kick his habits20:53
BluesKaj_never been a gamer ..... too old I guess20:54
teiseiWow21:02
teiseiI was actually able to change the behaviour of the Menu key to something else21:02
teiseiBut it's still a modifier (composer) key21:02
teiseiI guess problems just resolve themselves when they are paid some attention to21:03
bitemeoftncan someone direct me to an easy way to add my exchange e-mail?21:09
bitemeoftnso far the only way i've been able to add it is via POP3 or IMAP which doesn't do my calendars or contacts21:10
bitemeoftnhosted exchange.....sorry i should be more specific21:19
bitemeoftni.e. outlook.office365.com21:19
bitemeoftnmay have it figured out21:22
romajiOk, I'm trying to install 14.04, and I've hit a snag21:26
lordievaderromaji: What have you run into?21:26
romajiit will not let me install it onto a RAID drive that isfree21:26
lordievaderromaji: Using the standard GUI installer?21:27
romajiyea21:27
romajidoesn't let me pick the option of that dsk21:27
lordievaderromaji: Hmm, you might have more luck with the text-based installer that is found on the server or mini iso.21:27
lordievaderFor basic things the gui installer is fine, but for the more complex thing I prefer the text installer.21:28
romajiuh... is the text based installer in the desktop iso?21:28
romajibecuase it was hell installing this iso onto the thubdrive21:28
lordievaderNot for as far as I know.21:28
lordievaderromaji: Unetbootin?21:28
romajiIs that what getting the thing onto the drive on windows called?21:29
romajiCould it be fixed by putting 14.10 0n there instead?21:30
lordievaderromaji: Unetbootin is cross platform: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/21:30
romajiyep, that's the thing21:30
romajisome how, the checksum checked out, but the drive didn't run for 14.1021:31
romajiso, shoud I try 14.10 again, since that might have fixed the bug I have?21:33
romajiUm... anyone?21:34
lordievaderromaji: What bug are you talking about?21:35
romajiThe one  where it sees my raid drive, but refuses to install to it21:35
romajior, recongnise that it's there in the GUI installer21:37
romajiI'd call that a bug21:37
lordievaderromaji: I'd stick with what I said, try the mini iso.21:37
romajiok, where is that?21:38
lordievaderI'd agree, do file a bug report ;)21:38
romajiHow am I going to know which dirve is the right one?21:38
lordievaderromaji: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD21:38
bitemeoftnthought i had it figured out, but still can't get my contacts or calendar to show21:39
romajithese are all ubuntu21:39
bitemeoftntrying to use this tutorial http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-users/2014-07/msg00124.html21:39
lordievaderromaji: Yes, you select the Kubuntu desktop during the install.21:39
romajioh, they have both?21:39
lordievaderromaji: The mini iso is very small as it downloads everything it needs from the internet.21:41
romajiok, so where do i file the bug report'21:42
romajilordievader: ok, I'm ready to do that21:43
lordievaderromaji: In a terminal: ubuntu-bug ubiquity21:43
romajiRight, Not on linux, so I'll need to save that21:44
lordievaderromaji: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity21:45
andy__holaaa21:45
romajiThat's better21:45
andy__Tengo ubuntu 14.04 instalado en un disco de 80 Gb, un poco antiguo, y le instale Kde y ahora con gnome 3 y kde 14.4 ocupa 65 GB y el pc va lento..21:47
lordievader!spanish | andy__21:48
ubottuandy__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:48
andy__es lo mismo ubuntu 14.04 con kde que KUBUNTU??21:48
andy__sorry...21:49
andy__thnks21:49
romajilordievader:I'm trying to find out  how to get the installer to install Kubuntu21:52
lordievaderromaji: Somewhere down the line it asks you what desktop environment you want.21:54
romajiOh, in the normal install system?21:54
lordievaderromaji: ?21:54
romajilike, doing the install the normal way'21:55
lordievaderromaji: Are you talking about the mini iso or not?21:56
romajilordievader:I'm in the mini iso21:56
lordievaderromaji: Yes, there somewhere down the line it will ask you for the desktop environment.21:56
romajigood21:56
romajiAlthough, I haven't encountered it yet21:58
romajiand it''s loading aditional components21:58
lordievaderromaji: It is one of the last things you install, which makes sense ;)21:59
romajilordievader:Just asked me to activate raid22:00
lordievaderromaji: And?22:00
romajiI've got to go now, I'll be back in 30 min22:00
romajilordievader:It doesn't let me pick that disk22:01
lordievaderromaji: Hmm, that is too bad. Also, I'm afraid I won't be here in 30 minutes.22:02
romajiI don't see why though22:02
romajiwill someone else be?22:02
lordievaderromaji: I cannot tell the future (yet) :P22:05
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juacom99Hi, anyone else is having problems with shortcuts on Kubuntu 14.10 with plasma 5?22:41
romajihello, all I am back, and still stuck22:52
romajiShould I file another bug report on another installer?23:04
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