[01:22] <Faalentijn> I'm getting a soft lockup cpu lock up error
[01:23] <Faalentijn> Can anybody help me with that?
[01:27] <Faalentijn> Hello?
[04:33] <harish> hi
[10:13] <rotek> hello @ all
[10:51] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:22] <ap0c> how can I revert a kernel update through a live install?
[12:22] <ap0c> I tried updating 14.04.1 LTS's kernel from 3.13.x-generic to 3.16
[12:26] <tucnak> Hey there! I've got a strange issue with battery saving preferences here on Tech preview with latest plasma
[12:27] <soee> tucnak: this is more related to #plasma
[12:27] <tucnak> Basically, it keeps on blocking screen after a while, but what interesting is I have settings in Energy Saving that should preserve it from such behaviour
[12:27] <soee> try to ask there and maybe report some bugs
[12:27] <tucnak> soee: alright, thanks
[12:32] <hegemon8> hello
[12:33] <hegemon8> anyone is testing 15.04 ? I wonder how it performes so far, cause i'm formatting the  drive soon
[12:34] <soee> hegemon8: im running it 4-5 weeks now and all works fine for me. There might be sometimes problems with packages updates so you must be aware of it before upgrade
[12:35] <hegemon8> i used early versions before soee but plasma 5 is a bigger jump
[12:36] <hegemon8> i remember switching from kde 3 to kde4 so :) thats why i ask this time :)
[12:45] <LP> I want to speak with Lordie Vader
[15:22] <mparillo> I tried Startup Disk Creator on Kubuntu: Thumbdrive not bootable. I tried unetbootin on Win7 on the same Thumbdrive, and it was bootable. The MD5 checks OK. Any ideas?
[15:37] <BluesKaj_> mparillo, odd, Startup Disk Creator worked just fine here a few days ago...did you reformat the usb drive or just delete the pervious data on it before running creator?
[15:37] <BluesKaj_> because deleting the previous data is sufficient unless you have it partitioned
[15:57] <mparillo> BluesKaj_: Thank you. I used the Delete Data option on startup disk creator.
[15:57] <mparillo> It was originally created with FAT on Win7. Maybe that is the underlying issue?
[16:04] <BluesKaj_> mparillo, well FAT is best for usb sticks afaik
[16:05] <BluesKaj_> it is odd tho, can't think of why it wouldn't boot
[16:05] <BluesKaj_> anyway, errands to do...bbl
[18:12] <interima> Hi  i need some help. I have kUbuntu 14.04 and Nvidia 750Ti card. When i installed kubuntu (several mounth before) i add xorg-edgers/ppa and installed nvidia drivers. But now kubuntu switch to xorg mesa drivers. I don't know how it happened. I try to reinstall nvidia drivers (no effect).
[18:20] <BluesKaj_> interima, remove the xorg-edgers ppa. Their support is not very good, run lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' to see which driver is actually in use , then we can go from there.
[18:22] <interima> BluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/9k8Cd9fa
[18:24] <interima> BluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/n1NHmrhF
[18:26] <BluesKaj_> interima, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[18:26] <interima>  BluesKaj_: nvidia x settings show nothin (only not useful infromation) but before it shows all information
[18:26] <interima> BluesKaj_
[18:26] <interima> BluesKaj_: nothing
[18:26] <interima> BluesKaj_: in output
[18:28] <BluesKaj_> interima, the nvidia-331 driver is highest nvidia driver supported by 14.04,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[18:30] <interima> BluesKaj_: wow. i will check now
[18:36] <interima> BluesKaj_: no effect
[18:36] <BluesKaj_> explain no effect
[18:37] <interima> BluesKaj_: http://pastebin.com/r307FRTY
[18:37] <interima> BluesKaj_: seems like kernel still use gallium mesa drivers
[18:38] <interima> BluesKaj_: you said me delete edgers ppa (i don't delete yet) but how i can install nvidia drivers without this ppa
[18:39] <estacado> hi
[18:40] <estacado> i need some help anyone installed flashtool under kde?
[18:40] <BluesKaj_> interima,the 331 driver is in the regular repository
[18:40] <estacado> i have done the procedure once under ubuntu
[18:41] <estacado> is the location of udev rules the same?
[18:41] <interima> BluesKaj_: so i will delete edgers ppa and install 331 from default repo
[18:41] <BluesKaj_> yes
[18:41] <BluesKaj_> phone...bbl
[18:42] <Ryon_> is een uitvoerbaar programma. Uit veiligheidsoverwegingen zal het niet worden gestart. deze melding krijg ik wanneer ik een .exe bestand wil openen
[18:59] <interima> Can someone help me. i install nvidia-331 drivers but kernel still use xorg mesa drivers.
[19:11] <BluesKaj_> interima , where does it say vesa drivers are in use ?
[19:11] <BluesKaj_> or mesa rather
[19:16] <interima> BluesKaj_: glmark says that
[19:22] <BluesKaj_> interima, glmark is name of the app not the nvidia driver, my laptop syas the same as your glmark, but my gpu driver is definitely the i915 intel
[19:23] <interima> BluesKaj_: nvidia setting shows nothing
[19:24] <interima> BluesKaj_: lsmod  don't show nvidia driver
[19:25] <interima> BluesKaj_: lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA -A 12 don't show kernel driver in use
[19:26] <BluesKaj_> interima, have you rebooted since installing the 331 driver?
[19:27] <interima> BluesKaj_: yes
[19:34] <BluesKaj_> interima, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[19:39] <BluesKaj_> interima, and another command that will list media kernel modules is, dkms status
[19:45] <interima> BluesKaj_:lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' nothing
[19:45] <interima> BluesKaj_: but look at this  http://pastebin.com/TYqpf9HA
[19:49] <BluesKaj_> int then choose "0",  0 is the default if chosen
[19:52] <teisei> Hello! Anyone else experiencing a strange error message whenever you rename a file on your Desktop (Folder View)?
[19:53] <BluesKaj_> interima, then choose "0",  0 is the default if chosen
[19:54] <interima> BluesKaj_: if i choose 0 xserver crush
[19:56] <BluesKaj_> interima, do you need 14.04 LTS, I upgraded to 14.10 as soon as it was available since 14.04 was so unstable and buggy
[19:57] <BluesKaj_> probly get better support for your gtx 750ti gpu on 14.10
[19:58] <interima> BluesKaj_: i don't think that it can solve problem, cause everything work ok on 14.04. this happend several days ago
[19:59] <BluesKaj_> then you'll have to wait til xedgers ppa is brought up to date :/
[20:01] <BluesKaj_> unless you install the proprietary driver from the nvidia website, but it will break with the next kernel upgrade, whenever that is.
[20:01] <teisei> Nvidia already has drivers that support kernel 3.19 out-of-the-box?
[20:03] <BluesKaj_> interima, http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverresults.aspx/73666/en-us
[20:04] <BluesKaj_> teisei, depends which kernel 14.04 uses nowadays
[20:05] <BluesKaj_> 14.10 here is 3.16 kernel, 15.04 uses the 3.18
[20:06] <teisei> Well Nvidia 346.22 works with kernel 3.18
[20:07] <teisei> On the other hand, kernel 3.18 appears to be quite unstable for me compared to 3.16
[20:07] <BluesKaj_> teisei, yes , but the gtx 750 ti gpu is particularly not well supported on 14.04
[20:08] <teisei> One of the high end ones? I'm using GTX 460M
[20:08] <teisei> Which is quite outdated already, I know
[20:08] <teisei> What kind of problems does the GTX 750 Ti have?
[20:09] <BluesKaj_> we had the same issue with that gpu yesterday with 14.04 ...it's not a stable OS in many ways in my experience
[20:09] <BluesKaj_> especially with hi-end graphics
[20:10] <BluesKaj_> even my lowly nvidia 8400gs had troubles on 14.04
[20:10] <teisei> What drivers did you use?
[20:11] <BluesKaj_> the 319 on 14.04 , but I promptly installed 14.10 when the dev release was available and didn't have a problem after that
[20:13] <teisei> Did you switch from 319 to something newer?
[20:13] <BluesKaj_> once the 331 driver was available, yes
[20:14] <BluesKaj_> the 319 was very stable for me
[20:14] <BluesKaj_> as is the 331 atm
[20:16] <teisei> Do you happen to be using xorg-edgers?
[20:20] <DarwinSurvivor> I've installed Kubuntu 14.10 (plasma 4) on a high-dpi screen (280 dpi), but it keeps getting render at 94 dpi.
[20:21] <DarwinSurvivor> My Google searching has resulting in many answers for Unity on 14.10 and Kde on non-ubuntu distros (where they edit files that don't exist in 14.10)
[20:22] <teisei> There is a way to ignore/override the DPI autodetection
[20:22] <DarwinSurvivor> I've done the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (had to create the file first): http://pastebin.com/qVimRZY4
[20:23] <DarwinSurvivor> xrandr shows the corrected dimensions in the eDPI setting, but no changes are visible
[20:23] <DarwinSurvivor> http://pastebin.com/6am64S73
[20:24] <DarwinSurvivor> I tried using Screen and Screen0 instead of Monitor, but that just causes lightdm to crash
[20:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Also, xdpyinfo reports "96x96 dots per inch", so somehow xdpyinfo and xrandr are getting their numbers from different places
[20:26] <DarwinSurvivor> I keep reading that plasma 5 has much better high-dpi support, how stable is it at this point?
[20:26] <DarwinSurvivor> note: this is for a family member's primary work machine, so stability is important
[20:28] <teisei> DarwinSurvivor, Plasma 5 appears to be quite stable for me
[20:28] <teisei> There are some oddities here and there but no crashes whatsoever
[20:29] <DarwinSurvivor> can plasma 5 and plasma 4 be run on the same machine (for testing)?
[20:29] <teisei> Plasma 5 seems to be much faster and smoother than any other desktop I've tried recently
[20:29] <Walex2_> DarwinSurvivor: it is complicated...
[20:30] <teisei> DarwinSurvivor, not in the same install of Kubuntu as far as I know
[20:30] <Walex2_> DarwinSurvivor: DPI calculation and setting have been screwed up by Keith Packard very comprehensively
[20:30] <DarwinSurvivor> can I just replace plasma 4 with plasma 5 without a full reinstall (and back again if needed)?
[20:30] <teisei> DarwinSurvivor, I think it's possible. They are just packages after all
[20:30] <BluesKaj_> teisei, I don't use xedgers ppas. poor longterm support]
[20:31] <Walex2_> DarwinSurvivor: I have a very draft blog post on DPI here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/drafts2.html#140228b
[20:31] <teisei> BluesKaj_, yeah the support is a problem, but I'm a sucker for new features and speed improvements (also willing to sacrifice stability for performance boost)
[20:32] <BluesKaj_> on 15.04 here with plsama 5/KF5 and patiently waiting for the 5.2 on jan22
[20:33] <teisei> BluesKaj_, are you running kernel 3.18?
[20:34] <BluesKaj_> teisei, yes
[20:35] <teisei> No problems with uptime? My system crashes every few hours in 3.18
[20:35] <BluesKaj_> but this laptop uses intel graphics ..my old pc/media-server with kubuntu 14.10 has the nvidia 8400gs card in it
[20:37] <BluesKaj_> no problems here with crashes , just the odd freeze which is easily fixed with alt-tab
[20:37] <teisei> Well the Nvidia drivers from xedgers may play a role in my case
[20:37] <BluesKaj_> yes, that's possible
[20:39] <BluesKaj_> tried plasma 5 on the media server pc , but it was much too buggy so I reverted it back to plasma 4
[20:39] <teisei> In my case the crashes were more like kernel panics
[20:39] <teisei> Alt-tab or any other keyboard wizardry didn't work in my case
[20:41] <teisei> BluesKaj_, this is a little offtopic but do you happen to have a menu key on your keyboard?
[20:43] <BluesKaj_> the windows key ?
[20:43] <DarwinSurvivor> Thanks guys, I'll read the DPI post and if that doesn't work give plasma 5 a shot
[20:43] <teisei> Menu key, the one that behaves like right mouse click
[20:43] <teisei> Wherever your focus is
[20:44] <teisei> So it basically opens a menu
[20:44] <BluesKaj_> no idea which key that is
[20:45] <teisei> http://www.laptopkey.com/uploads/1034_1388193920_ev-kb.jpg see the key between Alt Gr and Ctrl
[20:46] <teisei> In Xubuntu it was called "Menu" when used in keyboard shortcuts
[20:46] <teisei> But I was just wondering if it's hard coded in Kubuntu to open the context menu (or whatever they call it)
[20:47] <teisei> I find this default behaviour useless and I used to bind it to open a terminal
[20:47] <BluesKaj_> it seems to open different menus depending on which app is open on top
[20:47] <teisei> Yes indeed it follows your focus (keyboard focus that is)
[20:48] <teisei> I haven't been able to locate any conf file where I could change the behaviour of this key
[20:49] <teisei> Quite frustrating to be honest. I was hoping some genius would've come up with a solution
[20:50] <teisei> Nevertheless the key is called "Menu" but it cannot be used in key bindings because it's not recognized
[20:50] <teisei> Maybe I could cheat the system somehow and make it appear as some other key which my keyboard doesn't physically include
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> frankly, I'm more of a mouse usersince i was introduced to computers with application programs run on various analytical lab instruments which followed the msdos basics at the time, then windows 3.1 and '95//
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> waaay before <i discovered linux :)
[20:52] <teisei> I see, I see. Maybe I'm too much of a keyboard wizard
[20:53] <teisei> A gamer does not simply kick his habits
[20:54] <BluesKaj_> never been a gamer ..... too old I guess
[21:02] <teisei> Wow
[21:02] <teisei> I was actually able to change the behaviour of the Menu key to something else
[21:02] <teisei> But it's still a modifier (composer) key
[21:03] <teisei> I guess problems just resolve themselves when they are paid some attention to
[21:09] <bitemeoftn> can someone direct me to an easy way to add my exchange e-mail?
[21:10] <bitemeoftn> so far the only way i've been able to add it is via POP3 or IMAP which doesn't do my calendars or contacts
[21:19] <bitemeoftn> hosted exchange.....sorry i should be more specific
[21:19] <bitemeoftn> i.e. outlook.office365.com
[21:22] <bitemeoftn> may have it figured out
[21:26] <romaji> Ok, I'm trying to install 14.04, and I've hit a snag
[21:26] <lordievader> romaji: What have you run into?
[21:26] <romaji> it will not let me install it onto a RAID drive that isfree
[21:27] <lordievader> romaji: Using the standard GUI installer?
[21:27] <romaji> yea
[21:27] <romaji> doesn't let me pick the option of that dsk
[21:27] <lordievader> romaji: Hmm, you might have more luck with the text-based installer that is found on the server or mini iso.
[21:28] <lordievader> For basic things the gui installer is fine, but for the more complex thing I prefer the text installer.
[21:28] <romaji> uh... is the text based installer in the desktop iso?
[21:28] <romaji> becuase it was hell installing this iso onto the thubdrive
[21:28] <lordievader> Not for as far as I know.
[21:28] <lordievader> romaji: Unetbootin?
[21:29] <romaji> Is that what getting the thing onto the drive on windows called?
[21:30] <romaji> Could it be fixed by putting 14.10 0n there instead?
[21:30] <lordievader> romaji: Unetbootin is cross platform: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:30] <romaji> yep, that's the thing
[21:31] <romaji> some how, the checksum checked out, but the drive didn't run for 14.10
[21:33] <romaji> so, shoud I try 14.10 again, since that might have fixed the bug I have?
[21:34] <romaji> Um... anyone?
[21:35] <lordievader> romaji: What bug are you talking about?
[21:35] <romaji> The one  where it sees my raid drive, but refuses to install to it
[21:37] <romaji> or, recongnise that it's there in the GUI installer
[21:37] <romaji> I'd call that a bug
[21:37] <lordievader> romaji: I'd stick with what I said, try the mini iso.
[21:38] <romaji> ok, where is that?
[21:38] <lordievader> I'd agree, do file a bug report ;)
[21:38] <romaji> How am I going to know which dirve is the right one?
[21:38] <lordievader> romaji: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:39] <bitemeoftn> thought i had it figured out, but still can't get my contacts or calendar to show
[21:39] <romaji> these are all ubuntu
[21:39] <bitemeoftn> trying to use this tutorial http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-users/2014-07/msg00124.html
[21:39] <lordievader> romaji: Yes, you select the Kubuntu desktop during the install.
[21:39] <romaji> oh, they have both?
[21:41] <lordievader> romaji: The mini iso is very small as it downloads everything it needs from the internet.
[21:42] <romaji> ok, so where do i file the bug report'
[21:43] <romaji> lordievader: ok, I'm ready to do that
[21:43] <lordievader> romaji: In a terminal: ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[21:44] <romaji> Right, Not on linux, so I'll need to save that
[21:45] <lordievader> romaji: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity
[21:45] <andy__> holaaa
[21:45] <romaji> That's better
[21:47] <andy__> Tengo ubuntu 14.04 instalado en un disco de 80 Gb, un poco antiguo, y le instale Kde y ahora con gnome 3 y kde 14.4 ocupa 65 GB y el pc va lento..
[21:48] <lordievader> !spanish | andy__
[21:48] <andy__> es lo mismo ubuntu 14.04 con kde que KUBUNTU??
[21:49] <andy__> sorry...
[21:49] <andy__> thnks
[21:52] <romaji> lordievader:I'm trying to find out  how to get the installer to install Kubuntu
[21:54] <lordievader> romaji: Somewhere down the line it asks you what desktop environment you want.
[21:54] <romaji> Oh, in the normal install system?
[21:54] <lordievader> romaji: ?
[21:55] <romaji> like, doing the install the normal way'
[21:56] <lordievader> romaji: Are you talking about the mini iso or not?
[21:56] <romaji> lordievader:I'm in the mini iso
[21:56] <lordievader> romaji: Yes, there somewhere down the line it will ask you for the desktop environment.
[21:56] <romaji> good
[21:58] <romaji> Although, I haven't encountered it yet
[21:58] <romaji> and it''s loading aditional components
[21:59] <lordievader> romaji: It is one of the last things you install, which makes sense ;)
[22:00] <romaji> lordievader:Just asked me to activate raid
[22:00] <lordievader> romaji: And?
[22:00] <romaji> I've got to go now, I'll be back in 30 min
[22:01] <romaji> lordievader:It doesn't let me pick that disk
[22:02] <lordievader> romaji: Hmm, that is too bad. Also, I'm afraid I won't be here in 30 minutes.
[22:02] <romaji> I don't see why though
[22:02] <romaji> will someone else be?
[22:05] <lordievader> romaji: I cannot tell the future (yet) :P
[22:41] <juacom99> Hi, anyone else is having problems with shortcuts on Kubuntu 14.10 with plasma 5?
[22:52] <romaji> hello, all I am back, and still stuck
[23:04] <romaji> Should I file another bug report on another installer?
[23:56] <pseudo_black> .