[01:22] I'm getting a soft lockup cpu lock up error [01:23] Can anybody help me with that? [01:27] Hello? === Dhs92 is now known as Yukitteru [04:33] hi === Yukitteru is now known as Yukinotteru [10:13] hello @ all [10:51] Good morning [11:29] Howdy folks [12:22] how can I revert a kernel update through a live install? [12:22] I tried updating 14.04.1 LTS's kernel from 3.13.x-generic to 3.16 [12:26] Hey there! I've got a strange issue with battery saving preferences here on Tech preview with latest plasma [12:27] tucnak: this is more related to #plasma [12:27] Basically, it keeps on blocking screen after a while, but what interesting is I have settings in Energy Saving that should preserve it from such behaviour [12:27] try to ask there and maybe report some bugs [12:27] soee: alright, thanks [12:32] hello [12:33] anyone is testing 15.04 ? I wonder how it performes so far, cause i'm formatting the drive soon [12:34] hegemon8: im running it 4-5 weeks now and all works fine for me. There might be sometimes problems with packages updates so you must be aware of it before upgrade [12:35] i used early versions before soee but plasma 5 is a bigger jump [12:36] i remember switching from kde 3 to kde4 so :) thats why i ask this time :) [12:45] I want to speak with Lordie Vader === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [15:22] I tried Startup Disk Creator on Kubuntu: Thumbdrive not bootable. I tried unetbootin on Win7 on the same Thumbdrive, and it was bootable. The MD5 checks OK. Any ideas? [15:37] mparillo, odd, Startup Disk Creator worked just fine here a few days ago...did you reformat the usb drive or just delete the pervious data on it before running creator? [15:37] because deleting the previous data is sufficient unless you have it partitioned === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [15:57] BluesKaj_: Thank you. I used the Delete Data option on startup disk creator. [15:57] It was originally created with FAT on Win7. Maybe that is the underlying issue? [16:04] mparillo, well FAT is best for usb sticks afaik [16:05] it is odd tho, can't think of why it wouldn't boot [16:05] anyway, errands to do...bbl === thelionroars1337 is now known as thelionroars === s0216379 is now known as Timvde| [18:12] Hi i need some help. I have kUbuntu 14.04 and Nvidia 750Ti card. When i installed kubuntu (several mounth before) i add xorg-edgers/ppa and installed nvidia drivers. But now kubuntu switch to xorg mesa drivers. I don't know how it happened. I try to reinstall nvidia drivers (no effect). [18:20] interima, remove the xorg-edgers ppa. Their support is not very good, run lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' to see which driver is actually in use , then we can go from there. [18:22] BluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/9k8Cd9fa [18:24] BluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/n1NHmrhF [18:26] interima, dpkg -l | grep nvidia [18:26] BluesKaj_: nvidia x settings show nothin (only not useful infromation) but before it shows all information [18:26] BluesKaj_ [18:26] BluesKaj_: nothing [18:26] BluesKaj_: in output [18:28] interima, the nvidia-331 driver is highest nvidia driver supported by 14.04, sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 [18:30] BluesKaj_: wow. i will check now [18:36] BluesKaj_: no effect [18:36] explain no effect [18:37] BluesKaj_: http://pastebin.com/r307FRTY [18:37] BluesKaj_: seems like kernel still use gallium mesa drivers [18:38] BluesKaj_: you said me delete edgers ppa (i don't delete yet) but how i can install nvidia drivers without this ppa [18:39] hi [18:40] i need some help anyone installed flashtool under kde? [18:40] interima,the 331 driver is in the regular repository [18:40] i have done the procedure once under ubuntu [18:41] is the location of udev rules the same? [18:41] BluesKaj_: so i will delete edgers ppa and install 331 from default repo [18:41] yes [18:41] phone...bbl [18:42] is een uitvoerbaar programma. Uit veiligheidsoverwegingen zal het niet worden gestart. deze melding krijg ik wanneer ik een .exe bestand wil openen [18:59] Can someone help me. i install nvidia-331 drivers but kernel still use xorg mesa drivers. [19:11] interima , where does it say vesa drivers are in use ? [19:11] or mesa rather [19:16] BluesKaj_: glmark says that [19:22] interima, glmark is name of the app not the nvidia driver, my laptop syas the same as your glmark, but my gpu driver is definitely the i915 intel [19:23] BluesKaj_: nvidia setting shows nothing [19:24] BluesKaj_: lsmod don't show nvidia driver [19:25] BluesKaj_: lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA -A 12 don't show kernel driver in use [19:26] interima, have you rebooted since installing the 331 driver? [19:27] BluesKaj_: yes [19:34] interima, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' [19:39] interima, and another command that will list media kernel modules is, dkms status [19:45] BluesKaj_:lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' nothing [19:45] BluesKaj_: but look at this http://pastebin.com/TYqpf9HA [19:49] int then choose "0", 0 is the default if chosen [19:52] Hello! Anyone else experiencing a strange error message whenever you rename a file on your Desktop (Folder View)? [19:53] interima, then choose "0", 0 is the default if chosen [19:54] BluesKaj_: if i choose 0 xserver crush [19:56] interima, do you need 14.04 LTS, I upgraded to 14.10 as soon as it was available since 14.04 was so unstable and buggy [19:57] probly get better support for your gtx 750ti gpu on 14.10 [19:58] BluesKaj_: i don't think that it can solve problem, cause everything work ok on 14.04. this happend several days ago [19:59] then you'll have to wait til xedgers ppa is brought up to date :/ [20:01] unless you install the proprietary driver from the nvidia website, but it will break with the next kernel upgrade, whenever that is. [20:01] Nvidia already has drivers that support kernel 3.19 out-of-the-box? [20:03] interima, http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverresults.aspx/73666/en-us [20:04] teisei, depends which kernel 14.04 uses nowadays [20:05] 14.10 here is 3.16 kernel, 15.04 uses the 3.18 [20:06] Well Nvidia 346.22 works with kernel 3.18 [20:07] On the other hand, kernel 3.18 appears to be quite unstable for me compared to 3.16 [20:07] teisei, yes , but the gtx 750 ti gpu is particularly not well supported on 14.04 [20:08] One of the high end ones? I'm using GTX 460M [20:08] Which is quite outdated already, I know [20:08] What kind of problems does the GTX 750 Ti have? [20:09] we had the same issue with that gpu yesterday with 14.04 ...it's not a stable OS in many ways in my experience [20:09] especially with hi-end graphics [20:10] even my lowly nvidia 8400gs had troubles on 14.04 [20:10] What drivers did you use? [20:11] the 319 on 14.04 , but I promptly installed 14.10 when the dev release was available and didn't have a problem after that [20:13] Did you switch from 319 to something newer? [20:13] once the 331 driver was available, yes [20:14] the 319 was very stable for me [20:14] as is the 331 atm [20:16] Do you happen to be using xorg-edgers? [20:20] I've installed Kubuntu 14.10 (plasma 4) on a high-dpi screen (280 dpi), but it keeps getting render at 94 dpi. [20:21] My Google searching has resulting in many answers for Unity on 14.10 and Kde on non-ubuntu distros (where they edit files that don't exist in 14.10) [20:22] There is a way to ignore/override the DPI autodetection [20:22] I've done the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (had to create the file first): http://pastebin.com/qVimRZY4 [20:23] xrandr shows the corrected dimensions in the eDPI setting, but no changes are visible [20:23] http://pastebin.com/6am64S73 [20:24] I tried using Screen and Screen0 instead of Monitor, but that just causes lightdm to crash [20:25] Also, xdpyinfo reports "96x96 dots per inch", so somehow xdpyinfo and xrandr are getting their numbers from different places [20:26] I keep reading that plasma 5 has much better high-dpi support, how stable is it at this point? [20:26] note: this is for a family member's primary work machine, so stability is important [20:28] DarwinSurvivor, Plasma 5 appears to be quite stable for me [20:28] There are some oddities here and there but no crashes whatsoever [20:29] can plasma 5 and plasma 4 be run on the same machine (for testing)? [20:29] Plasma 5 seems to be much faster and smoother than any other desktop I've tried recently [20:29] DarwinSurvivor: it is complicated... [20:30] DarwinSurvivor, not in the same install of Kubuntu as far as I know [20:30] DarwinSurvivor: DPI calculation and setting have been screwed up by Keith Packard very comprehensively [20:30] can I just replace plasma 4 with plasma 5 without a full reinstall (and back again if needed)? [20:30] DarwinSurvivor, I think it's possible. They are just packages after all [20:30] teisei, I don't use xedgers ppas. poor longterm support] [20:31] DarwinSurvivor: I have a very draft blog post on DPI here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/drafts2.html#140228b [20:31] BluesKaj_, yeah the support is a problem, but I'm a sucker for new features and speed improvements (also willing to sacrifice stability for performance boost) [20:32] on 15.04 here with plsama 5/KF5 and patiently waiting for the 5.2 on jan22 [20:33] BluesKaj_, are you running kernel 3.18? [20:34] teisei, yes [20:35] No problems with uptime? My system crashes every few hours in 3.18 [20:35] but this laptop uses intel graphics ..my old pc/media-server with kubuntu 14.10 has the nvidia 8400gs card in it [20:37] no problems here with crashes , just the odd freeze which is easily fixed with alt-tab [20:37] Well the Nvidia drivers from xedgers may play a role in my case [20:37] yes, that's possible [20:39] tried plasma 5 on the media server pc , but it was much too buggy so I reverted it back to plasma 4 [20:39] In my case the crashes were more like kernel panics [20:39] Alt-tab or any other keyboard wizardry didn't work in my case [20:41] BluesKaj_, this is a little offtopic but do you happen to have a menu key on your keyboard? [20:43] the windows key ? [20:43] Thanks guys, I'll read the DPI post and if that doesn't work give plasma 5 a shot [20:43] Menu key, the one that behaves like right mouse click [20:43] Wherever your focus is [20:44] So it basically opens a menu [20:44] no idea which key that is [20:45] http://www.laptopkey.com/uploads/1034_1388193920_ev-kb.jpg see the key between Alt Gr and Ctrl [20:46] In Xubuntu it was called "Menu" when used in keyboard shortcuts [20:46] But I was just wondering if it's hard coded in Kubuntu to open the context menu (or whatever they call it) [20:47] I find this default behaviour useless and I used to bind it to open a terminal [20:47] it seems to open different menus depending on which app is open on top [20:47] Yes indeed it follows your focus (keyboard focus that is) [20:48] I haven't been able to locate any conf file where I could change the behaviour of this key [20:49] Quite frustrating to be honest. I was hoping some genius would've come up with a solution [20:50] Nevertheless the key is called "Menu" but it cannot be used in key bindings because it's not recognized [20:50] Maybe I could cheat the system somehow and make it appear as some other key which my keyboard doesn't physically include [20:51] frankly, I'm more of a mouse usersince i was introduced to computers with application programs run on various analytical lab instruments which followed the msdos basics at the time, then windows 3.1 and '95// [20:51] waaay before I see, I see. Maybe I'm too much of a keyboard wizard [20:53] A gamer does not simply kick his habits [20:54] never been a gamer ..... too old I guess [21:02] Wow [21:02] I was actually able to change the behaviour of the Menu key to something else [21:02] But it's still a modifier (composer) key [21:03] I guess problems just resolve themselves when they are paid some attention to [21:09] can someone direct me to an easy way to add my exchange e-mail? [21:10] so far the only way i've been able to add it is via POP3 or IMAP which doesn't do my calendars or contacts [21:19] hosted exchange.....sorry i should be more specific [21:19] i.e. outlook.office365.com [21:22] may have it figured out [21:26] Ok, I'm trying to install 14.04, and I've hit a snag [21:26] romaji: What have you run into? [21:26] it will not let me install it onto a RAID drive that isfree [21:27] romaji: Using the standard GUI installer? [21:27] yea [21:27] doesn't let me pick the option of that dsk [21:27] romaji: Hmm, you might have more luck with the text-based installer that is found on the server or mini iso. [21:28] For basic things the gui installer is fine, but for the more complex thing I prefer the text installer. [21:28] uh... is the text based installer in the desktop iso? [21:28] becuase it was hell installing this iso onto the thubdrive [21:28] Not for as far as I know. [21:28] romaji: Unetbootin? [21:29] Is that what getting the thing onto the drive on windows called? [21:30] Could it be fixed by putting 14.10 0n there instead? [21:30] romaji: Unetbootin is cross platform: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [21:30] yep, that's the thing [21:31] some how, the checksum checked out, but the drive didn't run for 14.10 [21:33] so, shoud I try 14.10 again, since that might have fixed the bug I have? [21:34] Um... anyone? [21:35] romaji: What bug are you talking about? [21:35] The one where it sees my raid drive, but refuses to install to it [21:37] or, recongnise that it's there in the GUI installer [21:37] I'd call that a bug [21:37] romaji: I'd stick with what I said, try the mini iso. [21:38] ok, where is that? [21:38] I'd agree, do file a bug report ;) [21:38] How am I going to know which dirve is the right one? [21:38] romaji: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [21:39] thought i had it figured out, but still can't get my contacts or calendar to show [21:39] these are all ubuntu [21:39] trying to use this tutorial http://osdir.com/ml/kubuntu-users/2014-07/msg00124.html [21:39] romaji: Yes, you select the Kubuntu desktop during the install. [21:39] oh, they have both? [21:41] romaji: The mini iso is very small as it downloads everything it needs from the internet. [21:42] ok, so where do i file the bug report' [21:43] lordievader: ok, I'm ready to do that [21:43] romaji: In a terminal: ubuntu-bug ubiquity [21:44] Right, Not on linux, so I'll need to save that [21:45] romaji: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity [21:45] holaaa [21:45] That's better [21:47] Tengo ubuntu 14.04 instalado en un disco de 80 Gb, un poco antiguo, y le instale Kde y ahora con gnome 3 y kde 14.4 ocupa 65 GB y el pc va lento.. [21:48] !spanish | andy__ [21:48] andy__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [21:48] es lo mismo ubuntu 14.04 con kde que KUBUNTU?? [21:49] sorry... [21:49] thnks [21:52] lordievader:I'm trying to find out how to get the installer to install Kubuntu [21:54] romaji: Somewhere down the line it asks you what desktop environment you want. [21:54] Oh, in the normal install system? [21:54] romaji: ? [21:55] like, doing the install the normal way' [21:56] romaji: Are you talking about the mini iso or not? [21:56] lordievader:I'm in the mini iso [21:56] romaji: Yes, there somewhere down the line it will ask you for the desktop environment. [21:56] good [21:58] Although, I haven't encountered it yet [21:58] and it''s loading aditional components [21:59] romaji: It is one of the last things you install, which makes sense ;) [22:00] lordievader:Just asked me to activate raid [22:00] romaji: And? [22:00] I've got to go now, I'll be back in 30 min [22:01] lordievader:It doesn't let me pick that disk [22:02] romaji: Hmm, that is too bad. Also, I'm afraid I won't be here in 30 minutes. [22:02] I don't see why though [22:02] will someone else be? [22:05] romaji: I cannot tell the future (yet) :P === doge is now known as c[_] [22:41] Hi, anyone else is having problems with shortcuts on Kubuntu 14.10 with plasma 5? [22:52] hello, all I am back, and still stuck [23:04] Should I file another bug report on another installer? [23:56] .